Pop is the only Linux distro I've really used. Been daily driving it for about 4 or 5 years now. Tried Arch on a second drive once just to see what all the fuss is about but quickly scrapped it. I'm an odd mix of really believing in FOSS and Linux but also just wanting something that works out of the box and that's Pop for me, so far. Super hyped for COSMIC to get a stable release.
Yes, and I've already been running Cosmic for a few months. It's still got its fair share of bugs, but it comes together well! Having a mostly simple DE with native i3-style tiling is great, and the only thing capable of keeping me away from basic tiling wm's. The three features missing for me being totally happy with Gnome are proper i3-style tiling, a dock and tray icons. Cosmic does exactly that.
I've been dailying it since the first alpha dropped. I haven't really experienced anything other than some Bluetooth issue, which I just used to just used a cli app to configure
I for sure would. I just hope they add a decent amount of customization. I'm not expecting kde plasma levels of it, but more than gnome I am hoping for.
Yes. I’m currently using Plasma 6 with krohnkite for tiling. It works, but I’d like to have it built in. I’ve tried tiling window managers but I don’t really have the patience to learn how to configure them.
I'm enjoying COSMIC on CachyOS, but waiting for a couple of GNOME extensions to be ported over before making the switch fulltime. I appreciate what System76 is doing!
So far, I'm loving the Cosmic environment. Definitely a daily driver option. (currently testing on a small old laptop - Stream 11, booting from an enclosure kit as this machine has no option for an internal ssd/hdd (only integrated 30gb mmc drive) ). Aside from a few limitation in the OS currently, it's extremely snappy, boots up fast, have been able to setup most, if not all, apps I can think of. Like getting a USB Wacom tablet detected or to appear in the Cosmic settings se tío for the input devices. I'm assuming that's just a matter of time being that it's getting reworked into Rust. It's a close call to do a full switch over onto from my personal favorites Kubuntu/Pop-os (non-Cosmic). Can't to see the full stable release.
I have Pop_OS! Cosmic desktop alpha 1 on a usb ssd disk. I updated to alpha2 without any problem. Great Desktop It could be my main desktop eventually when it stabilize. I have tried to install it too on my Gentoo linux alongside KDE Plasma, but there is too many conflict and Cosmic is not stable at all in Gentoo. I'm not ready to ditch Plasma for Cosmic as it is in present state. But if they keep improving the thing at that rate, I will eventually move to Cosmic.
Looks snappy! I can't wait until they start polishing it and getting rid of that Cyanogenmod Custom-rom look. Also hopefully some sort of remote desktop server
it'd be nice if those settings were numerical, like the roundness and the interface padding a slider or just a text area that takes in a number, and makes that number into the roundness or the padding of the interface
0:45 that's the shell's doing, not the terminal. It's also very likely by accident, they remembered to rice the user's bashrc and forgot to do the same for the root user, so you ended up with the default look for root user
I'm testing it on a Dell Latitude E7270 i5 16gb ssd and Intel graphics. I've installed several applications and have done many tests. It's surprisingly stable for a version of this type and faster than my other Dell (5590 i7 graphics nvidia nvme Samsung and 32gb) with last stable pop os version!
Looks interesting! I hope it will support Devuan (without SystemD!) And I hope it’ll work well without 3D acceleration, as for some reason I can’t pass it through to my VM! (Zed falls back on Mesa and is sluggish.) There are two things that to my mind Windows got horribly wrong, yet many Linux DEs copied it: when I point at a picture on the wall, you know I mean it. Windows however wants me to touch (click) it, before it’s convinced. And I can have a two papers on my desk, writing on the lower, partly obscured one. MS forces it to the top of the stack, as soon as I select it. Many people don’t seem to mind these totally-different-from-real-life abstractions. But to me they are both a deal breaker. As you show, Cosmic now gives an option to remedy the 1st (focus follows pointer.) Its sibling feature, having auto-raise selection also optional would be highly welcome! That would require tweaking pointer follows focus, as top left might be obscured.
NixOS being the finnicky, non-straight-forward beast that it is, it always surprises me that it seems to be among the first supported every time I come across some cutting edge new and cool thing. Wasn't it also the first supported on Hyprland, along with Arch?
really like the direction Comic is going. I realize that committing to a project like this takes many hours and days and months to complete but they still have a lot to do before this can be used as a completed desktop. I will try it again in a couple of months. Looking forward to a completed desktop mean while I will stay with XFCE yes the old reliable desktop with no surprises every thing just works.
idk ... snappy ... kde is snappy , gnome is snappy ... and this on first glance pretty much looks like gnome whit border around menus :D and windows :P
@@meci6625 I'm using Pop!_OS on my main laptop because it offers hassle-free NVIDIA installation (I’m not gaming, but since I paid for the video card, it’s nice to have!). I also prefer Flatpak over Snap packages. I'm hoping that when the new OS version comes out, my backlight controls will finally work, though the chances of that seem slim. Relying on a GNOME extension to control brightness is frustrating. Overall, it feels like Pop!_OS takes too long to update-Cosmic has been feeling dated since 2022. And I don’t think the new version will be fully ready anytime soon, even after release. It’ll likely have a lot of bugs and missing features, as with many things in Linux. There are just too many moving parts: so many distros, desktop environments, and not enough manpower to maintain and fix everything.
im a big gnome guy and so the overview mode is my home. I wish you would have shown more about how cosmic handles that because that would be my deciding feature when switching or not. Also , i hope and pray that we can remove window borders and get window shadow instead.
From my testing in my i3 6006 notebook, the performance of the system in general is A LOT better. But yeah, as it is now, its alpha, there is a lot of problems, doesn't worth to use as your main machine. But the way is improving, I beginning of next year will be really good. With the exception of the workspace and other unfinished parts, everything else to me is better in cosmic then gnome to me.
I really don't like Gnome and this noobification of the interface, for example I often use file path text to copy some name or a path. But in Gnome the save to window is so limiting you can't do anything. You can't select a path, you cant F2 the folder... This is ridiculous. Also they started to remove 'open' option from browsers. I think there is also no save as in many browsers as well (shortcut still works I believe). I really don't like this trend - huge buttons on the titlebar, limited hamburger menus. But on the other hand it makes sense from developer point of view, because you only need to support 20-30 functions, not 200-300 in many hidden menus.
I'm daily driving it as a challenge until stable (despite the flaws) from last night. Wish me luck
Good luck!
Wish you luck!
Thoughts so far?
@@fortifyve he not answered, he bricked his PC xD
Pop is the only Linux distro I've really used. Been daily driving it for about 4 or 5 years now. Tried Arch on a second drive once just to see what all the fuss is about but quickly scrapped it. I'm an odd mix of really believing in FOSS and Linux but also just wanting something that works out of the box and that's Pop for me, so far. Super hyped for COSMIC to get a stable release.
Could you see yourself using Cosmic Desktop as your Default?
Yes, and I've already been running Cosmic for a few months.
It's still got its fair share of bugs, but it comes together well!
Having a mostly simple DE with native i3-style tiling is great, and the only thing capable of keeping me away from basic tiling wm's.
The three features missing for me being totally happy with Gnome are proper i3-style tiling, a dock and tray icons. Cosmic does exactly that.
I've been dailying it since the first alpha dropped. I haven't really experienced anything other than some Bluetooth issue, which I just used to just used a cli app to configure
I for sure would. I just hope they add a decent amount of customization. I'm not expecting kde plasma levels of it, but more than gnome I am hoping for.
I'll definitely try!
Yes. I’m currently using Plasma 6 with krohnkite for tiling. It works, but I’d like to have it built in. I’ve tried tiling window managers but I don’t really have the patience to learn how to configure them.
The POP team did a lot of catching up from the last time I followed them. Cool.
Looks Great!!
Been daily driving cosmic since alpha 1, rarely encountered any bugs!
Props to System76!
I'm enjoying COSMIC on CachyOS, but waiting for a couple of GNOME extensions to be ported over before making the switch fulltime. I appreciate what System76 is doing!
Looking good. Will be a while before I use it for my main systems, that I use to run my business. Has a ways to go, but man I love the start.
Right on
Looking forward to Bazzite's Cosmic image! Also hoping that a Wallpaper Engine extension will appear quickly
Can't WAIT to see the FULLY OFFICIAL release.... any idea of when? goes to Beta next and then full release- RIGHT?
I'll say that the cursor focus settings are a lot more useful in tiling mode. With both enabled, it behaves the same way Hyprland does
Yeah I can see how that would be beneficial with tiling mode enabled
So far, I'm loving the Cosmic environment. Definitely a daily driver option. (currently testing on a small old laptop - Stream 11, booting from an enclosure kit as this machine has no option for an internal ssd/hdd (only integrated 30gb mmc drive) ).
Aside from a few limitation in the OS currently, it's extremely snappy, boots up fast, have been able to setup most, if not all, apps I can think of. Like getting a USB Wacom tablet detected or to appear in the Cosmic settings se tío for the input devices. I'm assuming that's just a matter of time being that it's getting reworked into Rust.
It's a close call to do a full switch over onto from my personal favorites Kubuntu/Pop-os (non-Cosmic). Can't to see the full stable release.
I have Pop_OS! Cosmic desktop alpha 1 on a usb ssd disk. I updated to alpha2 without any problem. Great Desktop It could be my main desktop eventually when it stabilize. I have tried to install it too on my Gentoo linux alongside KDE Plasma, but there is too many conflict and Cosmic is not stable at all in Gentoo. I'm not ready to ditch Plasma for Cosmic as it is in present state. But if they keep improving the thing at that rate, I will eventually move to Cosmic.
A simple clipboard handler (as the window$ one) would be great.
Looks snappy! I can't wait until they start polishing it and getting rid of that Cyanogenmod Custom-rom look. Also hopefully some sort of remote desktop server
Nah I loved the CyanogenMod look
it'd be nice if those settings were numerical, like the roundness and the interface padding
a slider or just a text area that takes in a number, and makes that number into the roundness or the padding of the interface
0:45 that's the shell's doing, not the terminal.
It's also very likely by accident, they remembered to rice the user's bashrc and forgot to do the same for the root user, so you ended up with the default look for root user
I'm testing it on a Dell Latitude E7270 i5 16gb ssd and Intel graphics. I've installed several applications and have done many tests. It's surprisingly stable for a version of this type and faster than my other Dell (5590 i7 graphics nvidia nvme Samsung and 32gb) with last stable pop os version!
i'll probably do a fresh install once it is finished
Looks interesting! I hope it will support Devuan (without SystemD!) And I hope it’ll work well without 3D acceleration, as for some reason I can’t pass it through to my VM! (Zed falls back on Mesa and is sluggish.)
There are two things that to my mind Windows got horribly wrong, yet many Linux DEs copied it: when I point at a picture on the wall, you know I mean it. Windows however wants me to touch (click) it, before it’s convinced. And I can have a two papers on my desk, writing on the lower, partly obscured one. MS forces it to the top of the stack, as soon as I select it. Many people don’t seem to mind these totally-different-from-real-life abstractions. But to me they are both a deal breaker.
As you show, Cosmic now gives an option to remedy the 1st (focus follows pointer.) Its sibling feature, having auto-raise selection also optional would be highly welcome! That would require tweaking pointer follows focus, as top left might be obscured.
NixOS being the finnicky, non-straight-forward beast that it is, it always surprises me that it seems to be among the first supported every time I come across some cutting edge new and cool thing. Wasn't it also the first supported on Hyprland, along with Arch?
I prefer TTY (the OS no DE) yet.
Hard mode
Still missing printer settings from cosmic settings.
really like the direction Comic is going. I realize that committing to a project like this takes many hours and days and months to complete but they still have a lot to do before this can be used as a completed desktop. I will try it again in a couple of months. Looking forward to a completed desktop mean while I will stay with XFCE yes the old reliable desktop with no surprises every thing just works.
idk ... snappy ... kde is snappy , gnome is snappy ... and this on first glance pretty much looks like gnome whit border around menus :D and windows :P
the main selling feature of cosmic is window tiling. It also apparently has a pretty nice library for applet implementation
@@meci6625 I'm using Pop!_OS on my main laptop because it offers hassle-free NVIDIA installation (I’m not gaming, but since I paid for the video card, it’s nice to have!). I also prefer Flatpak over Snap packages. I'm hoping that when the new OS version comes out, my backlight controls will finally work, though the chances of that seem slim. Relying on a GNOME extension to control brightness is frustrating.
Overall, it feels like Pop!_OS takes too long to update-Cosmic has been feeling dated since 2022. And I don’t think the new version will be fully ready anytime soon, even after release. It’ll likely have a lot of bugs and missing features, as with many things in Linux. There are just too many moving parts: so many distros, desktop environments, and not enough manpower to maintain and fix everything.
im a big gnome guy and so the overview mode is my home. I wish you would have shown more about how cosmic handles that because that would be my deciding feature when switching or not. Also , i hope and pray that we can remove window borders and get window shadow instead.
Written with Rust is not a software feature.
Having the only DE programmed in the fastest and best memory safe language around is definitely a software feature.
Thanks. I doubt I will use this, not much different from Gnome that works just fine.
From my testing in my i3 6006 notebook, the performance of the system in general is A LOT better. But yeah, as it is now, its alpha, there is a lot of problems, doesn't worth to use as your main machine. But the way is improving, I beginning of next year will be really good. With the exception of the workspace and other unfinished parts, everything else to me is better in cosmic then gnome to me.
Not quite... cosmic is (atleast for now) not stubborn like gnome devs.... eg. They support SSD
I really don't like Gnome and this noobification of the interface, for example I often use file path text to copy some name or a path. But in Gnome the save to window is so limiting you can't do anything. You can't select a path, you cant F2 the folder... This is ridiculous.
Also they started to remove 'open' option from browsers. I think there is also no save as in many browsers as well (shortcut still works I believe). I really don't like this trend - huge buttons on the titlebar, limited hamburger menus. But on the other hand it makes sense from developer point of view, because you only need to support 20-30 functions, not 200-300 in many hidden menus.
Who needs new DE? Waste of time.
Who needs a computer? Waste of time.
It's amazing to see how they managed to build such an ugly interface.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I disagree but that was a really funny comment