My Post Debate Review On Why The Bible Doesn't Claim The Earth Is Young
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 พ.ย. 2024
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Here is my post debate review. I debated Apolojedi_ (Matt) The subject of the debate was "Does the Bible Teach An Age of the Earth." Matt argued the affirmative and I argued the negative.
The debate was a lot of fun and I am looking forward to further debates in the futher. If anyone is looking to debate me please send me an email or DM on X. Here is a list of topics that I am interested in debating and the positions I hold.
Against: Young Earth Creationism
In Support: Conditional Immortality/Annhilationsim
In Support: Amillennialism
In Support: Soul Sleep
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I watched the debate - I'm not so concerned about old Earth, young Earth, but I have to say, you did really well brother.
You both did, but your line of thinking is interesting about the topic. I enjoyed it - thanks, keep it up - to God be all the Glory Amen!!
Adam, you did well for your 1st debate. While it was not my 1st debate, I too am inexperienced in formal debate.
Regarding your contention that your objections were not addressed, my purpose in the debate was not to meet your expectations but to build a case that the Bible teaches that the Earth is young. There will always be objections from people who deny them, but I'm sure we could have addressed each detail if we had more time. Another thing we could have done (since it was a friendly debate) is have an "open discussion" section where there would have been more freedom for back-n-forth. Some of those opportunities were just getting started in cross-ex but had to be put aside due to the format. Maybe in our debate with Donny we can have an open discussion section. He's more used to having long, long debates, so I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem for him. Of note, don't forget to nail down your topic, check with me, and then email Donny back, so we can solidify a date.
Regarding your contention that I never understood your point. That's not true. I understood just fine, but since I disagree with it, you may have felt that I didn't understand it. Yes, I understand that you believe there was material creation prior to day 1, but I reject that assumption as we do not find this in scripture. You may not have liked that I kept referring to Ex 20, but I didn't like that you kept dismissing that actual words in favor of your presuppositions.
Regarding your contention about create/make. I never used the words "material creation" except possibly in response to your usage of it. You believe that I think every time that those words (H1254/H6213) are used, that it MUST be "material creation" and you put that belief in my mouth. My contention is NOT that H1254/H6213 MUST be material creation, but instead that H1254/H6213 should not be redefined as "an ordering of preexisting material". Of course I believe that abstracts can be created ("making a name for one's self") but your point was that these words are used to denote assembly. So my reply to that kind of thinking is "why didn't ANY Bible translator ever use assembly/organize in their translations?" If your view had validity, we would find evidence of this in our English translations, but we do not. To get "assembly/organize" out of the text, a guru like Walton or Soden would have to tell us after no one ever having that idea in the previous 2000 years.
I was pleased that you answered my 1st cross-exam question the way you did, and I feel that I missed an opportunity for a decisive win by not hammering this point home in my closing. If no changes need be made to the Bible for us to understand YEC except for your presuppositions involving 2 verses, means that I'm not having to go against anything in the text itself. I only needed to show that your fashionable presupposition of 2 verses is the only objection.
Thanks again for the debate. I look forward to doing it again soon