@@ravinderrs2552 phoenix's flash is objectively better than reyna's simply because you cant kill it, phoenix's wall makes pushes faster, self-heal is the only thing that makes her good but unless you are completely dominating your opponents it's really not that useful. I'm telling you as reyna main dude, on high level games she is almost as bad as viper
He makes a good point about consistently fragging as Reyna against top players in the world. Sure she's really strong but playing the best means that Reyna can't be consistent at killing people.
Like i think reyna is a good character cause it basically gives you full health after you get a kill and i guess like good aimers are able to do that ... Her alt is op aswell the speed, the fire rate, everything's good ... I believe once she'll be picked insted of let's say omen she'll become part of the meta
Morky pubstomper is a good word to use here shes basically an insane low rank agent but becomes terrible when most people in the lobby have as good aim as u and fragging is unreliable
Yeah most definitely. In high level (and even mid level to a lesser extent) you can't really feed individual players kills, and Reyna has to have a bit of downtime to capitalize on the kills as well (as Hiko mentioned with the double peek issue). She loses hard to 1 for 1s and the inconsistency of won engagements means she lacks a ton in higher level.
Overall, that's how I did my "competitive/teamplay" tier list but Raze being B tier instead of A. The fact that she got picked that much is because there were only a few "real" teams in the tourneys that happened. Like there was T1, TSM, 100T and what? Maybe a few other good one. The others were just not at the level of former CS pros. And Raze is the perfect character to get kills and pop off to surprise and hold people on chokepoints. Especially when they struggle putting up a strategy. Cool vid man
Raze is a one man army in chokes and close angles, and has a discount updraft in the form of satchels. Roomba is basically a free double swing, and ult guarantees a trade if not a kill or more. She struggles at longer ranges, but I'd say it's offset by her strengths much like Cypher's strength on defense outweighs his weakness on attack. Not to the same extent mind, but she isn't a bad pick. At worst she has short term area denial and satchel boosts, and at best she shuts down an entire lane for a large chunk of a round.
@@throwawayemail6269 That's your opinion, and it's kinda true. Although I don't know why you said cypher struggle in attack, he's one of the best "defensive" attacking character since holding flanks and preventing rotation is one of the key to a success in attack. And at the end of the day, raze trully shines only with a sage slow orb to my opinion, otherwise it's just a matter of baiting her utility if she's not using it to TK...
@@opyshuichiro8809 I more meant that he struggles in the actual attacking part of attacking. Playing discount defense, while very useful to keep those pesky flankers and even post plant rotates out of the way, isn't very useful for the immediate push. I am a Raze/Viper main so I am very biased, but most people write her off as just being a pubstomper while she has much more to her.
@@BoxFunk that logic does not work at all bro HAHAH. Thats like saying "If everyone is mechanically gifted, even on the opposing team, then no one is." The point Ghost was just trying to make is that everyone can take an aim duel, whatever role you are.
@@DavidAguilar02 It makes sense though. If everyone is so good at fragging, then no one is actually good enough to be considered pro fragger to those other good players xd. That's like the concept between good and evil, darkness and light, clean and dirty etc. If there is only good, then that isn't goodness at all, but a normal thing, the existence of evil is what makes goodness exist. Same goes for others. If there is only cleanliness, then it isn't considered clean, because there is no such concept as cleanliness without the existence of the opposite.
From the beta Viper called my attention. As a Viper main i think people don’t see her potential. You can defend an entire site with her ult and take a site (if you place her wall correctly) without being detected. People say her snake bite is easy to pass away it, but if you use it correctly you can make kills with it. People don’t know how to use her correctly I think.
@CEO of Poverty Time to kill is so fast in this game that holding angles gives you a massive advantage. So playing defensively and picking agents that are strong on defense is always gonna be a good play. That's my theory at least.
Depends on the player...remember valorant was used to "promote" counter strike in "some way", that's why most Players on valorant is newbies trying free game lol Don't change my mind...
I'd say Omen. He has easy to use smokes that make getting kills super ez. Even if you make a mistake with positioning you can always put a smoke to blindside the other team somewhere else and then get them from behind.
She's ridiculously good in comp in everything under immortal (and still prob really good in immortal). She's only C tier for pro-play, not all of comp play.
@@joebiden1969 kills aren't everything. if you're ignoring your team, a 30 bomb can just mean you threw your life away and gave the opponents a lot of guns
Phoenix is the most underrated agent in the game. He has the best post-plant potential on attack, can entry frag, great at delaying with molly and flash, if you’re fragging you can get 6 ults in one game, which can be used for frags and intel similar to omen TPs, and they are extra lives that can be used at the beginning of the round, unlike sage res.
Most of the champs havent been fully used to their limits Just wait out ~ when more players enter And people start hitting the skill ceiling of certain champs we will be seeing some completely unseen tricks
@@marianohuerta2233 Yeah idk I feel like Reyna is simply better than Phoenix in every way (at least in my level of gameplay, obviously not professional play)
I think Reyna is a small Breach/Sova buff away or economy change from being unstoppable. If you have a coordinated team, you put your cracked out CSGO rifler on Reyna and funnel money to her it's a real problem.
Reyna mains are either 1v1 god's always going for early round picks and will get 30 frags a game or there's some gold in your team who has no mic and gets around 10 kills
they should reduce the delay on his flash tbh i like playing breach but his kit has so much delay his ULT is a powerhouse on either attack or defense you can combo brim ult with his on retake but like hiko said its hard to play him on a high level meta
@@walterfitzroy4718 T1 used him every match. I agree Breach's kit is not suited too well to counter the current OP meta, but I believe that's because ppl don't know how to use his flashes effectively. Breach's flashes should be use to stall enemies and repositioning when playing CT. When playing T they should be used to entry rush a site allowing other agents with smokes to smoke off the back of sites to counter OPs. Breach's role should not be to counter OPs, but strictly facilitating entry. I notice a lot of ppl try to get creative with his flashes shooting them up in weird angles or from quiet a distance to where if an enemy is ADS'ing with an OP there's a high probably the oper wont get flashed because of his limited FOV. If you use his flashes a la Phoenix (body/head level) and immediately entering you can be more successful and until T1 stops using him, I wouldn't have placed him below A tier. Food was match mvp/top fragger with Breach when they beat TSM in the Upper Bracket finals, game 1. Wardell is just a problem no matter the agent you use. LMAO
Just don't think too much with breach. Hold rush or retake site when in defence. And clear ally or blockade when t. It is not a flashy character(ironically) it is not to get kills but make a game. Breach is an easy a.
I would only pick viper if I am confident in remembering all the places I need for a good stall. Viper I feel is the only character that can perfectly stall time for the entire team to rotate.
sova is amazing i have spent enough time with him to hit all bomb plant location on 3 maps from ct and t side can't aim a gun for shit because first shooter but can hit corners with arrows and have games were i get 3-4 kills with shock darts alone.
From my experience (25 full games), it's most common that sova is bottom fragging on both teams. I don't understand how one character can be so consistently in one play on the leaderboard.
as a low rank ( bronze 1 ) raze main i feel this, im happy he bumped her up, i can hold a site alone so long i swear its crazy, literally have held off a push from mid to sewers on split rotating to A whole team made the rotate before they could take the site
Why does jett get a higher placement on her ability to kill and dash out when essentially reyna can do the same with her invulnerability and to run back after a peek? Just curious on your thoughts
Maybe because Jett doesn't require an actual shot to hit before dashing to safety. Eather that or he's considering Jett a good candidate for an operator like a safe pick.
Amis Thysia doesn’t Jett have an animation delay too? For instance you can get shot while dashing, so isnt your hitbox still extended on the original location?
After Killjoy came, Viper is just not worth it anymore. If viper uses her ultimate to hold a site, Killjoy can just use her ultimate and that is the end of it as everyone has to get out. After Killjoy came, I have seen less Vipers than ever, even Breach is seen more than Viper nowadays in my opinion.
You can pretty much guarantee Reyna a kill using supportive utility (especially Breach). The thing is after that it's pretty much always a guaranteed multikill whether it's invul/invis or the overheal so long as your Reyna has decent hands. Also the example doesn't really hold up. If you're getting traded as Reyna then you're not using her kit as it was intended. She has an overheal if she wants to keep fighting or invul/invis to reposition.
I’m a viper 1-trick. I can get 30+ frags in ranked just because of the map control you have. You can fully stop pushes with 1 molly, and the fact you can move your smokes is really useful for retaking a site. More viper use in pro play!
Nearly any team comp can work. It's mostly the execution part of it which you specified that changes. It might not work as flawlessly as you think, but I could see it working well enough.
What do you mean ? Reyna is the exact opposite that you said her heal and E is the most incosistent while her flash is one of if not the best in the game
I will have to disagree with omen being a bad pick on bind, on attacking omen can smoke u-hall and then mid site of A which can block a lot of angles. For defending, omen can place one-way smokes on a site in front of the teleporter.
how exactly is sova a hard counter to viper? His recon dart doesn't go through her smokes, her wall, or her ult? Her smoke cant be destroyed. I suppose his drone could be used to go inside her ult but i dunno, a viper could easily kite around the drone as its so loud.
@@ridewithfurkan Once again - The recon bolt does not work in her ult. Wallhack abilities like sova recon arrow do NOT work through smokes, and her ult is one big smoke. If you use your arrow inside her ult it will not detect her even if she's standing right on top of it.
@@Vennnaya the keyword is 'through' smokes. If something is behind the smoke and u shoot in front of it, it doesn't show. but if u shoot inside the smokes like omens u see the inside of the smoke and not outside. So, when shooting inside the viper ult, u only see inside the viper ult and not outside. well at least it worked that way if they have not changed it. watch: th-cam.com/video/MyNofYtCQic/w-d-xo.html '7:00'
@@ridewithfurkan In that case then viper ult must work differently. I've stood ON TOP of enemy recon bolts before while using her ult, it didnt detect me.
I think viper ult should make it to where the poison sort if corrodes the guns making the rate of fire go lower. Not to the same point as breach, but enough to make viper win 1v1 ones.
I was much happier watching this one than the previous tier list you did because my favourite heroes, Jett and Raze, are much higher :D I'm very surprised about Raze being A tier
I think that although the list is for high tier gameplay, it’s important that people try and play like high tier players so they improve. This is what I try and do and do the tier list is actually useful for everyone.
Honestly I don't think people should worry about tier lists at all right now. Every champ is at least playable due to the core cs-like gameplay (and honestly none of them are atrociously balanced like Warden in R6). It's all based upon personal preference and performance.
Just so I am not getting scammed, one day I was playing a match and I ran into someone named Hiko, he was really good at the game and in the end, we got 13-1ed and the Hiko said he would add me. He did and he only got on when you weren’t streaming. I don’t know if it was you but by any chance, on that account, was the tag 1792.
As a Reyna user she can pick off a player from a group and escape getting damaged from using her immortal ability hiko only talked about healing healing which can be okay her flash can be a great way to push against a sight since all vision can be covered if used right and her ult isn’t the best against high level but the fact that she heals instantly from licking off a kill is good and if there’s 1v2 like hiko said you can go invisible and heal to max health and take cover while you can’t get shot
I play Reyna in Diamond 3 - Immortal 2 and she is really good in my opinion. You could use her invincibility to gain temporary intel and use that intel to your advantage. I stack and don't solo queue, but I do think she is alright in solo queue. That alone is quite powerful. I am pretty consistent with her.
@@ZankokuVal no, he is right. because people in soloq dont communicate and are generally garbage, they don't go for trades against reyna, allowing her to heal to full and start farming kills. but if your teammates are decent, reyna suddenly becomes pretty useless with the exception of her flashes and the occasional ult play.
For me, the reason why viper is so low because nobody bothers to experiment her. She's the closest agent to csgo kit since her kit is more on discovering pattern where to put her one way smokes and q smoke. Especially her ult also needs corner patterns. Been testing her out in competitive and I can assure that this character needs a great comms because if you play her solo queue she can be a double-edged sword for the team and the other team.
Some people said that Jett doesnt deserve the B tier,but imo its pretty understandable,in current awp meta,shes pretty pop off cuz how much the mobility she has
And, a lot of people don't realize that he's been playing CS:GO for an extremely long time, and has been in the pro-scene. He knows a lot better and realizes what is going on.
What he’s saying about Reyna is true playing against the best players on this planet and you have to get kills for each one of her skills accept her flash is a risky move in terms. But in unrated or spike you can have a whole bunch of fun as a solo Reyna
remember this is for pro level guys. On solo or low competitive ranks, reyna is absolutely filty. If you're gonna carry yourself out of the ranks, reyna is the best agent hands down, so is cypher and omen. Sage and brim drop for solo play I feel, because you still need a team play to play with them, they have no flashes or opportunities after fragging
Crazy that Breach has slipped to B tier but it makes sense given none of the teams I watched play in that tourney were running him at all. Imo he’s atleast A tier he’s just so useful on Offense and defense. He’s very versatile where you can play him as either a support agent or frag out agent or even a combo of both
@@Smoke_lb He's only talking about tournament/insanely high level of play. Reyna is like at least B tier in everything under Immortal. She's not hard to use by any means. In pro play, she'll rarely be able to heal, she'll get less utility out of her E, and her flashes will be shot before they can actually blind you. Reyna is really the only character where there's a huge chasm between pros and everybody else.
The best part of brimstone is hearing him say, “MOLLY!”
Made it 50 bro yeah I agree but only if he threw it fast😅
also when you get an ace using his ult
He knows
@@davidealejandrocastejon9246 Lol😅
MOLLEY!
3:20 almost says “cage triggered” from the voice line lol
Thats what a true gamer is
@@static3479 3:19
oh yeah haha
Lmao
Poison orb emitting
Other agents player:
“XXX is trash”
“No! S/He is the best agent in the game!”
Reyna player:
“Reyna is trash”
“Yeah we know”
She just gives confidence to the person playing her, that you'll win the fight and over heal back to full for the next chump to 1v1 you
FireSanctuary mmmm
you can Attack,Blind,Heal faster with Reyna Than Phoenix
@@ravinderrs2552 we know
@@ravinderrs2552 phoenix's flash is objectively better than reyna's simply because you cant kill it, phoenix's wall makes pushes faster, self-heal is the only thing that makes her good but unless you are completely dominating your opponents it's really not that useful. I'm telling you as reyna main dude, on high level games she is almost as bad as viper
Funny how he calls Viper and Reyna bottom ladies because they THICC
LOL
You said it.
horny gang
Uh, they're pretty much all the same shape because hitboxes. If any are THICC it's probably Raze (mullato) and Jett (likes running)
Peter Carey ya ain’t getting the point here mate
He makes a good point about consistently fragging as Reyna against top players in the world. Sure she's really strong but playing the best means that Reyna can't be consistent at killing people.
Have you seen Scream?
Like i think reyna is a good character cause it basically gives you full health after you get a kill and i guess like good aimers are able to do that ... Her alt is op aswell the speed, the fire rate, everything's good ... I believe once she'll be picked insted of let's say omen she'll become part of the meta
My instant impression of reina was she gets stronger the bigger the skillgap between you and your opponents. Essentially a pubstomper if you might.
Morky pubstomper is a good word to use here shes basically an insane low rank agent but becomes terrible when most people in the lobby have as good aim as u and fragging is unreliable
Yeah most definitely. In high level (and even mid level to a lesser extent) you can't really feed individual players kills, and Reyna has to have a bit of downtime to capitalize on the kills as well (as Hiko mentioned with the double peek issue). She loses hard to 1 for 1s and the inconsistency of won engagements means she lacks a ton in higher level.
Omen's one way smokes are also insane. As long as different angles are played its almost always a free kill
One way smokes?
One smokes way?
Way smokes one?
Smokes one way?
Way one smokes?
Hikos Tier List:
S TIER: Sage, Cypher, Brimstone.
A TIER: Omen, Sova, Raze.
B TIER Breach, Jett, Phoenix.
C TIER: Viper, Reyna.
Džiugas is this for if you have friends or talk to mic? Cus I have no friends and don’t talk on mic
FlashGaming 10 it’s for comp play I mean you don’t NEED a mic but if you’re tryna run a team w these agents some communication would help
@@SirfIasher yeah and i always carry with phoenx
Automatically all duelist and sage are a/s tier in soloQ comp.
i skipped to the end to see the results but I accidentally paused on 17:05 and I saw that sage was on D tier and I thought hiko was literally insane
Wtf lol
kinda is now isn't it >:
@@Hyp0xy Good
All the memes and quotes in chat were wholesome :D
No
Name a more iconic duo Pride and Brim Molotovs
Subroza... Underrated
Drone and enemies heads
Jett and Aceu
TenZ / Jett
Summit1g and Molotov’s
Pride showed up on haven with the molly
Viper had had the same pick rate as Reyna before Reyna came out :D
lmao
Hiko: Sage is too important for every team TSM: hold my beer
Would you consider making a tier list based off of solo queue?
he said in stream he would do one at a later date
Id say, raze or reyna
@@mocha7193 100% Raze imo. Solo-Carry potential is insane. Reyna in the higher ranks just wont work tho
@@Slesaint17 I just play reyna in immortel 1-3 and reyna is good for solo carry.
Overall, that's how I did my "competitive/teamplay" tier list but Raze being B tier instead of A. The fact that she got picked that much is because there were only a few "real" teams in the tourneys that happened. Like there was T1, TSM, 100T and what? Maybe a few other good one. The others were just not at the level of former CS pros. And Raze is the perfect character to get kills and pop off to surprise and hold people on chokepoints. Especially when they struggle putting up a strategy.
Cool vid man
Raze is a one man army in chokes and close angles, and has a discount updraft in the form of satchels. Roomba is basically a free double swing, and ult guarantees a trade if not a kill or more. She struggles at longer ranges, but I'd say it's offset by her strengths much like Cypher's strength on defense outweighs his weakness on attack. Not to the same extent mind, but she isn't a bad pick. At worst she has short term area denial and satchel boosts, and at best she shuts down an entire lane for a large chunk of a round.
@@throwawayemail6269 That's your opinion, and it's kinda true. Although I don't know why you said cypher struggle in attack, he's one of the best "defensive" attacking character since holding flanks and preventing rotation is one of the key to a success in attack.
And at the end of the day, raze trully shines only with a sage slow orb to my opinion, otherwise it's just a matter of baiting her utility if she's not using it to TK...
@@opyshuichiro8809 I more meant that he struggles in the actual attacking part of attacking. Playing discount defense, while very useful to keep those pesky flankers and even post plant rotates out of the way, isn't very useful for the immediate push. I am a Raze/Viper main so I am very biased, but most people write her off as just being a pubstomper while she has much more to her.
I feel like viper is one of those agents where it will take a lot of time for people to figure out how she's best to be used
When your playing against the top players in the world the simple fact is everyone’s a fragger
you're*
If everyone is a Fragger, even on the opposing team, then no one is
@@BoxFunk hes saying compared to normal players, like every top tier pro is a fragger when they play normal comp matchmaking even at radiant
@@BoxFunk that logic does not work at all bro HAHAH. Thats like saying "If everyone is mechanically gifted, even on the opposing team, then no one is." The point Ghost was just trying to make is that everyone can take an aim duel, whatever role you are.
@@DavidAguilar02 It makes sense though. If everyone is so good at fragging, then no one is actually good enough to be considered pro fragger to those other good players xd.
That's like the concept between good and evil, darkness and light, clean and dirty etc.
If there is only good, then that isn't goodness at all, but a normal thing, the existence of evil is what makes goodness exist.
Same goes for others. If there is only cleanliness, then it isn't considered clean, because there is no such concept as cleanliness without the existence of the opposite.
despite being S tier agents, Sage also S tier Waifu
Its so easy, Hiko posts a video, I watch the video.
Congrats
As much as I love playing Reyna in solo queue, for high level (tournament) play she is D tier.
From the beta Viper called my attention. As a Viper main i think people don’t see her potential. You can defend an entire site with her ult and take a site (if you place her wall correctly) without being detected. People say her snake bite is easy to pass away it, but if you use it correctly you can make kills with it. People don’t know how to use her correctly I think.
someone’s in the chat “I’d give the reyna D too” if u know wht im sayin’ 😂😂👌
Well researched and backed up with specific examples, with the touch of Hikos sense for FPS games, this is one of the best Valorant tier list reviews!
Sage and Cypher are the most consistsntly placed S tier
Interestinggg
@CEO of Poverty Time to kill is so fast in this game that holding angles gives you a massive advantage. So playing defensively and picking agents that are strong on defense is always gonna be a good play. That's my theory at least.
Info and the ability to have a second fight with full health is just insane.
@@ZachAttack6089 agreed
@@ZachAttack6089 something i like is almost every agent can be used on offense and defense. Yes some are more strong on one than another but still
G-g-g-g-g-g give me a corpse
But reyna for solo queue thats where she is really strong, don't change my mind
depends on your skill at that time
Depends on the player...remember valorant was used to "promote" counter strike in "some way", that's why most Players on valorant is newbies trying free game lol
Don't change my mind...
Again shes ok if you get kills, doesn't really provide anything to a comp. Struggles defensively too.
I'd say Omen. He has easy to use smokes that make getting kills super ez. Even if you make a mistake with positioning you can always put a smoke to blindside the other team somewhere else and then get them from behind.
He was thinking about competitives
I know Raze is basically a mandatory pick because shes so good, but that's why I hate her and people who pick her with a PASSION. Riot pls fix
Reyna is ridiculously OP in casuals but her abilities are so solo-oriented that she's pretty useless in a comp match
reyna is what you pick when you need to carry your team, and she is SO good at doing that.
Bennett Jester This whole list is based on pro play, so it’s understandable that she’s in C tier, possibly D.
She's ridiculously good in comp in everything under immortal (and still prob really good in immortal). She's only C tier for pro-play, not all of comp play.
I’m hardstuck silver cause I’m so much better than silver but I get a 30 bomb pretty much every comp match
@@joebiden1969 kills aren't everything. if you're ignoring your team, a 30 bomb can just mean you threw your life away and gave the opponents a lot of guns
Phoenix is the most underrated agent in the game. He has the best post-plant potential on attack, can entry frag, great at delaying with molly and flash, if you’re fragging you can get 6 ults in one game, which can be used for frags and intel similar to omen TPs, and they are extra lives that can be used at the beginning of the round, unlike sage res.
Most of the champs havent been fully used to their limits
Just wait out ~ when more players enter
And people start hitting the skill ceiling of certain champs we will be seeing some completely unseen tricks
he does things well, but other characters do his job better.
@@marianohuerta2233 Yeah idk I feel like Reyna is simply better than Phoenix in every way (at least in my level of gameplay, obviously not professional play)
gotta keep in mind this is Hiko perspective on pro meta, not necessarily solo q or even average game in general
@@swagstyle33 Reyna is strong in lower ranks, but overall I think Phoenix is stronger.
The dude who perfects Reyna and starts slaying the other comp teams will be considered the best player in the game
Reyna is op af, if you can high frag.
His name is Scream
I think Reyna is a small Breach/Sova buff away or economy change from being unstoppable. If you have a coordinated team, you put your cracked out CSGO rifler on Reyna and funnel money to her it's a real problem.
Reyna mains are either 1v1 god's always going for early round picks and will get 30 frags a game or there's some gold in your team who has no mic and gets around 10 kills
@@nemethdaniel2000 Yes!!!!!!!!!
At this point, the amount of operators Hiko says is (almost) always played in matches, I'm surprised we don't have 10-man teams
you do know matches consist of 10 players right XD. I assume that's what he means.
@@cenciqt6045 I think he means having different people that are good at different agents so you can swap out people for the map they pick
you realize operator is the awp gun dont you? LOL
Operators as in agents context should give it away
Putting breach in b tier hurts my soul
IKR he should be A tier
He's just going off the meta not saying that he's B as a hero
they should reduce the delay on his flash tbh i like playing breach but his kit has so much delay his ULT is a powerhouse on either attack or defense you can combo brim ult with his on retake but like hiko said its hard to play him on a high level meta
@@walterfitzroy4718 T1 used him every match. I agree Breach's kit is not suited too well to counter the current OP meta, but I believe that's because ppl don't know how to use his flashes effectively. Breach's flashes should be use to stall enemies and repositioning when playing CT. When playing T they should be used to entry rush a site allowing other agents with smokes to smoke off the back of sites to counter OPs. Breach's role should not be to counter OPs, but strictly facilitating entry.
I notice a lot of ppl try to get creative with his flashes shooting them up in weird angles or from quiet a distance to where if an enemy is ADS'ing with an OP there's a high probably the oper wont get flashed because of his limited FOV. If you use his flashes a la Phoenix (body/head level) and immediately entering you can be more successful and until T1 stops using him, I wouldn't have placed him below A tier. Food was match mvp/top fragger with Breach when they beat TSM in the Upper Bracket finals, game 1. Wardell is just a problem no matter the agent you use. LMAO
Just don't think too much with breach. Hold rush or retake site when in defence. And clear ally or blockade when t. It is not a flashy character(ironically) it is not to get kills but make a game. Breach is an easy a.
I would only pick viper if I am confident in remembering all the places I need for a good stall. Viper I feel is the only character that can perfectly stall time for the entire team to rotate.
Is Reyna too good if she can use her Q and E off of any kill she gets or assists? I think that would be a good change for her.
sova is amazing i have spent enough time with him to hit all bomb plant location on 3 maps from ct and t side can't aim a gun for shit because first shooter but can hit corners with arrows and have games were i get 3-4 kills with shock darts alone.
thats dope!
Sova is probably the most satisfying agent, he is tough to learn (memorizing arrows along with the charge bars) but so much worth all the efforts.
From my experience (25 full games), it's most common that sova is bottom fragging on both teams. I don't understand how one character can be so consistently in one play on the leaderboard.
@@caenir because his job is to gain info and not killing enemies.
Arth Daware for real, but in the end all your friends will say “you dont kill anyone”
Hiko: Reyna has the best flashes in the game and also cant be traded out when getting a kill. D TIER.
what is the most fun agent to play?
as a low rank ( bronze 1 ) raze main i feel this, im happy he bumped her up, i can hold a site alone so long i swear its crazy, literally have held off a push from mid to sewers on split rotating to A whole team made the rotate before they could take the site
First good tier i see finally
Why does jett get a higher placement on her ability to kill and dash out when essentially reyna can do the same with her invulnerability and to run back after a peek? Just curious on your thoughts
Maybe because Jett doesn't require an actual shot to hit before dashing to safety. Eather that or he's considering Jett a good candidate for an operator like a safe pick.
Amis Thysia doesn’t Jett have an animation delay too? For instance you can get shot while dashing, so isnt your hitbox still extended on the original location?
im pretty new to VAL. how is raze countering cypher? what does he mean with the wire thing? cuz she can elevate herself over one?
Hiko theres only one player that can consistanly play reyna, hes called scream
I think of opposite maps where Omen is good. Bind has so much tp spots and smoke placements unlike the others.
exactly, bind is perfect for his teleports
@@sangvikarnikhil the tp spots arent great. the ones that are are usually the ones you hear pretty easily
@@cheyhey2170 might be true depending upon the skill level at which the game is played.
@@cheyhey2170usually people below diamond don't hear them
@@cheyhey2170 and fake tp is the thing too
Now let's read what the "pro players" think about this tier list in the comment section:
you don't have to be a pro to make a good opinion, and pros can also have bad opinions
@@KhumBietTaiSao oof rekt
Had to click on the video, I couldn’t tell what his A and B tier agents were because he blurred it out so well. Smart man.
Where do you think Viper stands after the buffs that are coming?
How can you say that Omen is bad on Bind when that's the one he can fake teleporters on? Have you ever played Omen my guy?
After Killjoy came, Viper is just not worth it anymore. If viper uses her ultimate to hold a site, Killjoy can just use her ultimate and that is the end of it as everyone has to get out. After Killjoy came, I have seen less Vipers than ever, even Breach is seen more than Viper nowadays in my opinion.
Hiko quick question, does getting 24 kills in one game good or bad?
Great Tier List!!!! Currently a Cypher/Raze Main from Phoenix/Reyna Main!!
I think with the viper buff soon viper will start to move up a bit in meta but not much
Raze, 6th champion in a row that is picked "almost every game this weekend" xD jk
Last time I was this early people were complaining about the new agent Raze breaking the game
"new"
With two nades
You can pretty much guarantee Reyna a kill using supportive utility (especially Breach).
The thing is after that it's pretty much always a guaranteed multikill whether it's invul/invis or the overheal so long as your Reyna has decent hands.
Also the example doesn't really hold up. If you're getting traded as Reyna then you're not using her kit as it was intended. She has an overheal if she wants to keep fighting or invul/invis to reposition.
Very accurate tier list. Good job
Guess who’s now a sage/brim/cypher main? Throwing Reyna out to the streets hmph
I play a lot of cypher but not brim or sage the main 4 I play are cypher sova Omen and sometimes viper
I’m a viper 1-trick. I can get 30+ frags in ranked just because of the map control you have. You can fully stop pushes with 1 molly, and the fact you can move your smokes is really useful for retaking a site. More viper use in pro play!
Would brim, omen and jet work on attack? Heavy smoke rush a site use omen or jet to dash in plant and back out covering bomb
Nearly any team comp can work. It's mostly the execution part of it which you specified that changes. It might not work as flawlessly as you think, but I could see it working well enough.
reynas heal is insane, her ult is solid too. her E is great for recessing a situation.. her flashs are pretty inconsistent though.
What do you mean ? Reyna is the exact opposite that you said her heal and E is the most incosistent while her flash is one of if not the best in the game
@@ramaradithya8049 Her E is consistent but her heal isn't (unless you have ult up)
I will have to disagree with omen being a bad pick on bind, on attacking omen can smoke u-hall and then mid site of A which can block a lot of angles. For defending, omen can place one-way smokes on a site in front of the teleporter.
I feel like viper has the potential to be on par with brim if they tweeted her ult then the would be like A tear
how exactly is sova a hard counter to viper? His recon dart doesn't go through her smokes, her wall, or her ult? Her smoke cant be destroyed. I suppose his drone could be used to go inside her ult but i dunno, a viper could easily kite around the drone as its so loud.
Ven Kitsune recon inside the ult. Ez kill
@@ridewithfurkan Once again - The recon bolt does not work in her ult. Wallhack abilities like sova recon arrow do NOT work through smokes, and her ult is one big smoke. If you use your arrow inside her ult it will not detect her even if she's standing right on top of it.
@@Vennnaya the keyword is 'through' smokes. If something is behind the smoke and u shoot in front of it, it doesn't show. but if u shoot inside the smokes like omens u see the inside of the smoke and not outside. So, when shooting inside the viper ult, u only see inside the viper ult and not outside. well at least it worked that way if they have not changed it. watch: th-cam.com/video/MyNofYtCQic/w-d-xo.html '7:00'
@@ridewithfurkan In that case then viper ult must work differently. I've stood ON TOP of enemy recon bolts before while using her ult, it didnt detect me.
@@Vennnaya go try it in a private game then make me a favor and let me know how it worked lol. i have no friends to try it with pepehands.
I think viper ult should make it to where the poison sort if corrodes the guns making the rate of fire go lower. Not to the same point as breach, but enough to make viper win 1v1 ones.
what does hiko do to his pc to look this color vibrant? thankyou very much.
I was much happier watching this one than the previous tier list you did because my favourite heroes, Jett and Raze, are much higher :D I'm very surprised about Raze being A tier
8:34
hellrengur, you are a LEGEND
He's totally right ngl
should i switch from breach to cypher?
I think that although the list is for high tier gameplay, it’s important that people try and play like high tier players so they improve. This is what I try and do and do the tier list is actually useful for everyone.
Honestly I don't think people should worry about tier lists at all right now. Every champ is at least playable due to the core cs-like gameplay (and honestly none of them are atrociously balanced like Warden in R6). It's all based upon personal preference and performance.
Just so I am not getting scammed, one day I was playing a match and I ran into someone named Hiko, he was really good at the game and in the end, we got 13-1ed and the Hiko said he would add me. He did and he only got on when you weren’t streaming. I don’t know if it was you but by any chance, on that account, was the tag 1792.
Is this tier list on the comp side or casual?
Watching this in November 2020 and missing og sage
As a Reyna user she can pick off a player from a group and escape getting damaged from using her immortal ability hiko only talked about healing healing which can be okay her flash can be a great way to push against a sight since all vision can be covered if used right and her ult isn’t the best against high level but the fact that she heals instantly from licking off a kill is good and if there’s 1v2 like hiko said you can go invisible and heal to max health and take cover while you can’t get shot
6:42. "Sova, srry hanzo, srry legolas" LMAO
Omen can use ult to teleport into teleporter and can use the C to make the fake teleport. But i love him on ascent and split the most
Most hype part of the video is always the intro I swear😂🔥
the only tierlist i 100% agree with
I have a question are Cypher supposed to be a fragger because my brother say I must have many kills because I have peeks abilitys
No hes not
I play Reyna in Diamond 3 - Immortal 2 and she is really good in my opinion. You could use her invincibility to gain temporary intel and use that intel to your advantage. I stack and don't solo queue, but I do think she is alright in solo queue. That alone is quite powerful. I am pretty consistent with her.
Very nice tier list!
How do other teammates view through Cyphers camera view?
Reyna solo queue is completely broken
Damo you probably get farmed LOL
@@ZankokuVal no, he is right. because people in soloq dont communicate and are generally garbage, they don't go for trades against reyna, allowing her to heal to full and start farming kills. but if your teammates are decent, reyna suddenly becomes pretty useless with the exception of her flashes and the occasional ult play.
For me, the reason why viper is so low because nobody bothers to experiment her. She's the closest agent to csgo kit since her kit is more on discovering pattern where to put her one way smokes and q smoke. Especially her ult also needs corner patterns. Been testing her out in competitive and I can assure that this character needs a great comms because if you play her solo queue she can be a double-edged sword for the team and the other team.
Some people said that Jett doesnt deserve the B tier,but imo its pretty understandable,in current awp meta,shes pretty pop off cuz how much the mobility she has
i think combat stim from brim should slowly fix shields (to 25 only so that it's not op). then it wouldn't be useless.
IDK why but I feel like viper has another buff coming her way
Hiko is so adorable and wholesome, so glad I discovered him! :)
hes toxic af if u didnt know lol
yo hiko where would you now put killjoy?
if there's a pick ban phase in ranked, for example 1 ban for each team, we're gonna see lot of plays with other characters
So Rainbow Six Siege Ranked in a nutshell.
People are not really patient at learning Viper, I think that's why her pickrate is low, but I'm playing her since the beta, gal is my main.
Viper took me awhile to get the hang of, but if played right she can be pretty good
@@jellay indeed
I like your tier list it’s your opinion about high gameplay good job
just remember that its Hiko's opinion and you can have a different one but just don't be toxic
And, a lot of people don't realize that he's been playing CS:GO for an extremely long time, and has been in the pro-scene. He knows a lot better and realizes what is going on.
Can you do a video saying some good teams to competitive?
what is he streaming with?
Where can we watch he's matches?
I saw somebody in chat say omen is LGBTQ . Bruhh
True tho
LMAOOOO fr?
What he’s saying about Reyna is true playing against the best players on this planet and you have to get kills for each one of her skills accept her flash is a risky move in terms. But in unrated or spike you can have a whole bunch of fun as a solo Reyna
Huh?
Why do you think sova is a hard counter to viper?
Viper literally won't be detected by that recon in her ult/smoke/
Drone
remember this is for pro level guys. On solo or low competitive ranks, reyna is absolutely filty. If you're gonna carry yourself out of the ranks, reyna is the best agent hands down, so is cypher and omen. Sage and brim drop for solo play I feel, because you still need a team play to play with them, they have no flashes or opportunities after fragging
Nah brim is still good in solo queues his smokes are just too good and is great at solo holding sites like short on bind or A on split
What’s the intro song name
Crazy that Breach has slipped to B tier but it makes sense given none of the teams I watched play in that tourney were running him at all. Imo he’s atleast A tier he’s just so useful on Offense and defense. He’s very versatile where you can play him as either a support agent or frag out agent or even a combo of both
Reyna is either underrated or most people don't know how to use it
Maybe both
@@Smoke_lb He's only talking about tournament/insanely high level of play.
Reyna is like at least B tier in everything under Immortal. She's not hard to use by any means.
In pro play, she'll rarely be able to heal, she'll get less utility out of her E, and her flashes will be shot before they can actually blind you.
Reyna is really the only character where there's a huge chasm between pros and everybody else.