The end?: British Politics after Brexit
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.พ. 2022
- While this conference has a focus on British politics, voters across the four nations are increasingly making fundamentally different choices at the ballot box. This panel will discussed these changes in the fundamental nature of British politics, and look forward to upcoming elections in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
This panel is part of a conference by UK in a Changing Europe that brings together some of the best academic experts on public opinion from across the UK, senior politicians and journalists to explore the key questions facing British politics - including the current strategies and prospects of the political parties, and the way in which political identities and attitudes have changed in the last half-decade. The conference coincides with the launch of our new report 'Brexit and party politics in the UK'.
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Roll on Scottish independence!!
Saor Alba
@Simon John that May be but should Scottish people not choose their Government? The SNP is the largest party in Scotland yet Tory policies govern Scotland.
Simon, why do you resort to saying Scotland would be bankrupt. Based on what, data based on being in the union?
What have you based your opinion on? Economincs, rescources, EU membership, etc Explain.
Simon get the boot out of your mouth, Scotland is more than capable of running its own affairs. It has the necessary aspects of an economy as it stands. Most of what we need is here already. Its a no brainer. Roll on Scotland, stride ahead. Get your Independence soon.
@Simon John yer gettin' that onyweys
@Simon John
Democracy isn't a one-time event
Democracy didn't end in Scotland in 2014.
2019 general election in Scotland
Scottish people voted in
SNP 48 MPs up 13 MPs
Tory 6 MPs down 7 MPs
Liberal 4MPs
Labour 1 MP down 6 MPs
The SNP had Indyref2 in their election manifesto.
2021 Scottish parliament election proportional voting system Scottish people voted in 72 MSPs a majority of the Scottish parliament who had Indyref2 in their election manifestos.
The SNP have won the last 11 elections in Scotland, 8 elections since 2014.
The Scottish government has a democratic mandate from the Scottish people to hold the Indyref2 vote.
If the 533 English Westminster MPs continue to block the Indyref2 vote then it's a forced union.
Westminster tried that in Ireland and look how that turned out.
In an independent Scotland the Scottish people would be governed by the government that they vote for and not be governed by the government that another country voted for.
The Scottish people haven't voted by a majority for the Tories since 1955 yet keep getting Tory government and policies. Scotland gets the government that the English vote for.
A London court set up by Westminster which has 533 English MPs makes a judgement of a law voted through by Westminster which has 533 English MPs, that the Scottish people from the Country of Scotland cannot hold a democratic vote to decide their future.
If the 533 English Westminster MPs continue to block the Indyref2 vote then it's a forced union.
Westminster tried that in Ireland and look how that turned out.
Instead of spitting venom, it would be really interesting if the Brexiteers would instead expound and expatiate on the benefits that might ever accrue from Brexit.
You go first.
Far Kew
Sounds like these panellists are spitting venom....spitting in the face of a democratic vote.
No problems seemingly with the 1975 EEC Referendum vote.
@Simon John Our not part of Schengen means having to queue for passport control when we holiday in the EU. Freedom to make trade deals has led to our photocopying some of the trade deals we had as an EU member. We are free to lower our VAT rates but in fact taxes have risen. We have supposedly £385m more to spend on the NHS but do not. We have the right to control migration from outside the EU, as we always did, but still do not do so. The one tangible change benefit from Brexit is that we now have blue covers on our passports printed incidentally in the EU. At least we did not bring back the dreadful black ones with the hole in the cover that revealed the number.
@Simon John enjoy ploptown fud
@Simon John Holy shit. Most of the issues that you are raising we had in my country and we are still a member of the EU. My point is that all your issues could be fixed while the UK still remaining a part of the EU. Also the Schengen agreement is one of the nicest things to have if you actually travel. Everything is so fluid because of that. Also a lot of the things that you mention sounds like you want the UK to be able to do dodgy shit.
There is no UK. There is a soon to reunify Republic of Ireland, Independent Scotland and Wales and England alone, forced into independence as the Scottish people dissolve our political union called Great Britain. All as a direct result of 15.2 Million voters in England outvoting the entire population of the rest of the UK to force Brexit on the Irish, Welsh and Scottish born. Even today with the publication of a new UK Energy policy, England did not consult the Scottish people and takes it for granted they can rely heavenly on Scottish Energy and natural resources without consulting our Scottish Government.
It was a UK-wide vote, just like in 1975, whether you cast a vote in Dover or Dundee.
@@lennylaa1686 the problem is that England‘s choice is the UK‘s choice. It does not matter what the voters in the other regions want.
@@lennylaa1686 and the energy policy ?
The moderator is a real gentleman, very knowledgeable and very suited to do his job. The speakers are all top quality people. Thank you.
This is a turning point for Britain it won't be called the United Kingdom anymore as Scotland will soon be Independent, N Ireland will soon join Ireland so Wales and England will have to be called rUK (rest of the UK) or little Britain.
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Agreed John. Or just called "England and Wales"?
Absolutely not. The call for Welsh Independence is growing stronger very quickly, once Scotland is free, it won't be long for Cymru fach!
U.K. thinking too much for what it is becoming - forget global Britain - the path is clearly toward a smaller and smaller Britain on world stage.
More of concern is the existence of a Union in the medium term.
BREXIT -
if you shoot your right foot
your left foot wont feel it QED
lol
We could and should have fought the Russians in Europe together but you Brits turned your back on us. Shame on everybody who voted for Brexit.
As far as I can see far from turning our backs on you, the Brits have been at the front of pushing back against Putin. It was the Brits that were supplying anti tank rockets in the run up to the invasion of Ukraine. European countries didn't want to spend their 2% on defence and relied on the US and the UK to put up the main defence of Europe.
@@freebornjohn2687 Oh, for f**ks sake. You were syphoning millions into British banks long before this. You were rolling out a red carpet with anyone with a handful of roubles. You were happy to have a Russian propaganda tv station.To tolerate street assassinations. To have a Russian in parliament To have another owning a newspaper.Russian money has been funding the Tory party. You even sold out your football clubs to Russian money. You really are not the brightest beetroot in the borscht
We turned our back on joint government with you amateur clowns, we can still fight Russia together without being part of that protectionist sham.
You leftist big government crackpots will NEVER win.
@@ausbrum I don't dispute any of what you said. That's separate from what I said. For years the West has taken money from the Russians, the Arabs et al. That doesn't mean there aren't other people trying to stand against it.
I have a house in Tblisu.
Nobody helped Georgia.
Why should we help when you all stood by when the Russians attacked us ?
We already have taken many Ukranian refugees and Russian political dissidents.
Far more than the UK has
I would divide England into three: Northumbria, Mercia and Wessex: two new archdiocese: Winchester, and Lincoln-Lichfield. Despite this absurd Red-Wall,, there is a profound difference in temper between North and Southern England, and eventually Brexit will deepen the chasm. The so called Red Wall will evaporate as northerners understand the consequences of Brexit.
The British they like triggering articles without Know what Is about :-)
Starts at 6:10
Debating the table order on the Titanic. Cute. Alas, these clowns should face the new realities and rename themselves to "UK in a Changed Europe"!
What an inane and silly comment. These are not clowns, but discussing the consequences for the UK of Brexit. This is a problem created by Brexit. The English were warned. Scotland and Ireland as well as genuine Welsh [we suffer from English immigration] , We identify with Europe because our association with Europe is not polluted by English History.
Huw Edwards....what a surprise to see him championing a pro-Euro stance.
Have none of you heard of democracy?
We voted out
We are out
We are staying out
Of that you can be sure.You were never wanted in the EU, always whining and rabbiting on about the "war". Buffoons.
The English voted to leave but the Scottish, Northern Irish and Welsh born voted remain. The problem is that as England has a far larger population whatever the English decide will be the outcome for the UK regardless of what the people in the other regions want. The English vote for a Tory government so the UK gets one even though the Tories are not the number one party in NI, Scotland or Wales.
@@patrickmccutcheon9361 the Welsh voted by a majority to leave. Why is England having a larger population deemed to be a problem? Democracy is a system whereby the minority has its say but the majority gets its way
You’re a hard core brexiteer