i've actually been thing a lot lately about how absolutely underappreciated he has always seemed to be. it's almost as if he kinda gets lost in the shuffle between Bonham and Peart.
Bill Ward might be honestly the most underrated drummer I can imagine. He’s so groovy and tasty, he swings, his pocket is dope. Oh yeah… and his FILLS!!!
Him and Collins in same boat but for different reasons. I’m a musician but not a drummer,( programme them but not a legit drummer), and weirdly I think it’s Ward’s and Collins musicality that shines through, not that they aren’t technically great I’d assume, given what other great drummers have said about them.
@@ashleymerritt9461 No mate, Ward is a legend amongst musicians, you want a real underrated drummer, look at Mick Tucker from Sweet, now there's a guy that barely gets a mention, and I rate him ahead of Ian Paice....
Once I found that Paris video I chased it around as they kept pulling it down. Finally they made it official. It's so pure. Ozzy is just singing and not playing to his future reputation. Bill is so good it's beyond description. Tony of course is killing it and Geezer is holding it all together. That concert all pure and fresh.
We were teenage kids in the 1970s, using Sabbath's rehearsal room at Fields Farm Bishampton UK. Bill came in and proceeded to jam with us for an hour or so. He had encouraging comments for us. We will never forget his generosity! Great bloke!
I think even the other SABS would agree with you. I’m sure if he had maintained his playing we would never have heard another drummer with sabbath but the truth seems to be that he kinda lost his chops and feel a long time ago. Check out his playing in some of his final shows with sabbath. It’s not good. He’s one of my favorites but he wasn’t cutting it.
@@bobkeen2138 I know there is a couple names that comes to mind that have ruined people and their ability to play really good music. That'd be Alcohol and Cocaine. That's the number 1 & 2 culprits in the downfall of many musicians in the late 70s. So very sad that they either don't care that they are playing worse, disbelieve what their bandmates, producers, family & friends are telling them, or they simply thought that all their mistakes could be cleaned up during the final mix as the music is polished at the end of production. Unfortunatly a shiny turd is still a turd. ☮️
That entire generation of English drummers who grew up when Jazz was the most popular music are at the top of my list: Ward, Mitchell, Bonham, Baker, Watts
He's a very orchestral drummer too, listen to "Children of The Grave" and how he plays to that song, no one does or ever has played the drums like Bill Ward
Not a musician nevermind a drummer and I love the vids on thisl....can't read music or anything like that but I understand theory I guess it's called so much more after watching these vids...wicked cool
As a guitar player for 45yrs....i can say Bill is the only drummer i activly remember paying any attention to. Those first 3 sabb albums he really shined thru
Totally feel that when I learn his songs, nothin feels repeated and u have to stay loose to play it correctly . that and u can feel the tempo change throughout the song to match the feeling the rest of the music. Songs are always harder to learn n memorize then i anticipate 😅
Just because he doesnt get 1000s of tiktoks uploaded about him doesnt mean he doesnt get recognition. Ask any musician especially drummers they all know who Bill Ward is
There's the word I've been waiting for, "underrated". Who's "underrating" him? Drummers don't such as me. Here's another classic, "Alex Leifson is so "underrated". Have you ever looked up the meaning of that word?
I second that, brother! Bill Ward is the funkiest hard rock drummer this side of Bonham! I don’t mean that as a put-down of Bill, he’s a superb drummer. A National Acrobat is one of my all-time favorite Sabbath songs because of Bill’s serious funky groove. Sabbath never lost their groove feel, at least up to Sabotage. Bill is one amazing drummer!
@@TM_StoneWell, yeah, a drummer would respect Bill Ward. It’s the general music listening audience that doesn’t realize without that rhythm section of Ward and Butler, Sabbath loses ALL their musical power. No offense meant to Iommi and Ozzy, just my opinion.
@@TM_StoneAlex Lifeson is absolutely underrated. He plays with the most talented rhythm section of all time and bcuz of that he is not as valued as the rest of the band
I hope everybody reads this! I was 12 years old in 1970, and I only listen to Pop music are used to drive my brothers crazy because I knew every song and would sing. That was until a friend of mine called me up and said I’m dropping off an eight track to you. You got a listen to this. as soon as I got it, I ran upstairs put the eight track in and war pigs started! That album changed everything musically for me. I couldn’t believe what I I was listening to. I couldn’t get enough I found myself going to record stores and figuring out what type of music this was. Now at the age of 66 can say, without a doubt that album changed my whole perspective on music. To this day, I crank it up, I had a bunch of kids at a stoplight. Take a picture of me and jammin with Black Sabbath. What a brilliant band the musicianship these guys have or unbelievable. The down tuning on his guitar miraculous the bass thumping through the drums leading everybody else I could go on and on, but I won’t, I’m just grateful for Sabbath by the way, I never listen to pop music again
I’m very sorry to say, I only discovered these incredible men a little over a year ago and had the same experience as you….you put it very well… I’m 41 and I told an older friend recently, I feel like I’m discovering music for the first time 😳!… I hate that it’s so late in life that I’ve found this awe inspiring music… I told my Mom, it’s like a thunder and lightening storm… it’s so BIG, so POWERFUL- it hits you right in the gut and stops you in your tracks and Ozzys voice reaches in and grabs ur heart and Geezers poetic lyrics of topics were all concerned about … no other music can compare !🎶 …I wish I could tell them how much I appreciate their hard work and sacrifice.
@@sophielily2015 check out my comment on the video lots of good band recommendations from that time period, sort by last first and you should find it. Rock on!
I thought music was so so before I heard War Pigs. I think that got me into singing too. Though started in emo with an annoying voice because that was the "in" music.
Bill Ward's swing grooves are unmatched. The way he can let Geezer's bass stand out clearly on the surface, then bring all hell crashing down around it, is simply genius. Nobody can match that intensity or heavy groove. Sprinkle in Iommi's epic riffs, and at that point Ozzy could sing the phone book over it, and it would sound crushing.
Geezer and Bill went off in their own directions on many songs, but somehow made it work. They could have simply stuck with a pattern and repeated it, instead they tried something very different and it worked. Bassically/NIB was one of the first metal bass solos. Yes, all in EM, Geezer rarely left that key. the rips Bill played on Symptom of the Universe are my favorite. I played it for my middle school friends who were both drummers, blew their minds.
@@ShuKatashSam That's why I laugh at people who ask why Bill hasn't played on any of the recent stuff. Has it not occurred to them, that drumming for Black Sabbath isn't easy? Bill would tell you himself, he simply doesn't have the chops to do the songs justice anymore. The lads are getting up in age. Ozzy desperately wants to perform one last time with all four original members, specifically Bill. If they get on as a headliner for a big multi band show, I can see them filling seats.
People throw around the word "underrated" a lot, but Bill really doesn't get talked about enough in the great drummers of rock conversation. His loose, thundering groove was a huge part of Sabbath's sound ❤
welcome to TH-cam, unless you are Eddie Van Halen , John Bonham, or Freddie Mercury you get labelled "underrated", and even those guys get lots of "underrated" comments.
As a bass player Bill Ward lead me down the path to respecting drummers more than any other parts of a band that when the bassist and drummer are in sync nothing can stop them...
I'm a bass player too. Geezer is the reason why. But Bills drums are the tastiest, heaviest I've ever heard to this day. It wouldn't have been Sabbath without him. Or any of them. Just the best.
If the drummer sucks, your band sucks. That's what I've learned playing in bands. Black Sabbath is simply not the same band without Bill. Not that Vinnie Appice is a bad drummer, he's a good rock and roll drummer but Bill is a rock drummer and a percussionist . He thinks more like an orchestral percussionist than a rock drummer. His style is part of what made those 70s albums great and unique. They are a different band entirely without Bill Ward.
Boss I can't play a single instrument, but have nothing but love and respect for players. When I listen to a band, I always focus on the bass and drums first. If you can't keep my toes tapping, head moving, etc, your lead vocals and guitar won't keep me listening. I think my appreciation for bassists and drummers comes from my football playing days as an offensive lineman. Lineman, bassists, and drummers aren't so different in the fact that they're usually the most important facet to their group without getting the love they should.
Bill will always one of the biggest influences to my drumming, forever grateful to my dad for raising me on Black Sabbath. I'm 24 years old now & play drums in a few bands but I will always let the Bill Ward influence shine through no matter what
I’m 38 and have the same thoughts. My dad got me into Sabbath and I was lucky enough to start playing during the Ozzfest Era. Fortunate to have a little bit of Bill Ward in my playing to this day.
Nice guys- I love Bill but saw Ronnie with Cozy, Richie and Roger and three years later Ronnie with Vinnie, Geezer and Tony on Mob Rules. Still remember the date, 12-18-81. Bill was absent through most of my upbringing so really loved the new guys back then
You nailed it Gregg. Drumeo proved your point by putting together the 2 Bill Ward drum kits... amazing how Paranoid all erupted from that sparse set of equipment
Finally! This man is the reason I play drums. My dad gave me the black sabbath live Paris 1970 vhs tape for my birthday in the 90s, and I remember him saying, "You want to see a badass drummer? come here.." and we sat and watched it together, and I was blown away. When I got my drum set, I used to play along to that tape every day after school, blasting it through my dad's entertainment system. That's literally how I learned how to play the drums.. playing along to Bill Ward. Smashing away on a little 4 piece with upside sticks.🥁🤘🏾
One thing Bill's drumming taught me: When I was a youngin' first delving into all things distorted and driving, my first foray into metal was the 80's thrash scene. The big 4, Testament, Pantera, Sepultura, etc., etc. I had no real exposure to Black Sabbath for several years. Then, I was at a friends house one weekend, doing what teenagers do, getting blasted and listening to music, when Black Sabbath was put on. Now, my friend had an amazing sound system for the time, and had the speakers placed in such a way that the whole room was a good spot to listen and get the best soundstage. That album, well, it blew my understanding of what metal drumming was supposed to be into pieces. I understood then, that the formula was not concrete... it wasn't rigid. Sure, genres tend to repeat specific chops/rhythms across bands that identify with said genres, but none of it was required. Metal is an energy, a vibe if you will, that can be supported and perpetuated by the drums in more than a formulaic way. Bill's drums epitomized that for me and actually led me more away from pure speed and technical metal genres into Prog and fusion. I mean, here was the one that is renowned for starting it all, playing truly heavy parts in ways I had not heard before. My mind was blown. Now, as a lover of all things weird and groovy in metal/hard rock, I can honestly attribute that appreciation to Bill Ward. I would never have given bands like Tool, that deviated from the Metal norm but which had some truly awesome drum parts and timing, a chance, without that exposure to his non-metal approach to the first (for the most part, there are some possible contenders for that that were and are less known, and so therefore considered not as influential) metal albums lol. \m/
I’ve been drumming for 40 years. I’ve always thought Bill Ward is the most underrated drummer from that generation. Unfortunately, there’s not a lot of live sabbath out there: but if you pay attention, you’ll hear Bill Ward absolutely beating the shit out of his drum kit . Simply awesome. It’s good to hear in this podcast, the attention paid to the idea that there’s a lot of jazz in sabbath.
Bill Ward is a God tier drummer and deserves to be brought up consistently in the same sentence as his peers like Bonham and others. Bill didn't just keep time, he swang and grooved all other these songs and created the most unique musical landscape ever. The way he hangs back just a bit behind the rest of the band in the intro for Into the Void gives me goosebumps. His fills in the chorus of War Pigs in their 1970 live show are electrifying. Bill Ward was the heart of Black Sabbath and he will never ever be replicated. Such a nice bloke too.
Bill literally taught the world that playing with feel and emotion rules above all else. There's no "right or wrong way" to write a song. Play what you feel and the people will always listen.
Bill Ward is the beginning and the end of the conversation for what makes heavy metal drumming at its best. Extremity combined with pocket. Intention combined with improvisation. Groove combined with technicality. One of my all-time influences and a continuous source of inspiration.
Struggling to find the words to express how much I love his drumming. One of the main reasons that got me into heavy metal. Thank you Bill Ward - and thank you Drumeo for this long-overdue video.
whenever l'm asked who my fav drummer is l always say bill ward and they always ask why and say that strange, but if you listen to his drumming it takes you on a journey both mentally and in person. the power feel and emotion of his drumming is the best.
As a drummer who played Black sabbath b sides for over ten years all I got to say is THANK YOU DRUMEO FOR FINALLY DOING JUSTICE FOR BILL WARD. This is amazing material, wonderful work from all of you. Congratulations, I really mean it!
Bill Ward is a legend. Many of my old vinyl records are just a memory in the record cabinet. Black Sabbath is doing the rounds on the turntable as fresh as ever. I hope someone will play the old records at my last party. Thank you.
Bill was absolutely incredible on the song Symptom of the Universe. The sound of his cymbals on that album, as well as on the Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Paranoid albums are, in my opinion , the best I've ever heard
I bought “Sabotage” about a year after it came out when I was in middle school, and that album became my drum teacher “Symptom of the Universe” is epic. Every Sabbath album that Ward plays on, is in itself, is mind blowing. Excellent video. This could be four hours long and you still couldn’t say enough. “Hand of Doom” was always one of my favorite songs that Ward played on.
What a legend. I’ve been playing along with Bill Ward in my headphones for about 35 years. Probably my favorite drummer ever, Bonham and Peart close seconds
Matter of fact, that snare flam on “The Wizard”, before the heaviness begins with that riff…man, we are talking about 1970!…we are so lucky to still have this guy with us. THANK YOU Bill!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Bill, Tony, Ozzy and Geezer are all musical geniuses. Without all 4 of them creating such an amazing sound I might not have ever picked up a guitar. Electric funeral was the first song I ever learned how to play. That was 30 years ago when I was 11 and I haven't put the guitar down since. The amount of influence these 4 dudes have on almost every single rock/metal musician from my generation cannot and should not ever be discounted or forgotten.
bravo Drumeo. as a GenX'r it's so refreshing to see and hear the younger generations fully realizing the origins of some of the best heavy metal music around IMO
Bill Ward taught me how to hit the drums hard and mean every note your playing, no matter what. There’s life in every note you play, every drum and cymbal you hit!!! Thanks for the timeless music Mr. Ward!!!
I'm a huge fan of Black Sabbath and Bill Ward is a huge influence on my playing. He laid the foundation for metal musicians from Kyuss to Mastodon to Metallica to Slayer. All of us who play metal of any kind owe him a debt of gratitude. This was a very thoughtful presentation and great production. Great work, Brandon!
Bill Ward is one of the nicest guys I ever got to meet at the Mason Jar in Phoenix Arizona years ago. I saw him on his second solo tour. He's actually a very good singer and front man as well as one of the all time classic Drummers in Hard Rock and Heavy Metal.
Bill's my favorite Sabbath member. I love his solo albums as well. THIS IS THEEEE MOST thorough analysis of Bill Ward. He is vastly under appreciate amongst the Bonhams and Bakers (whom I think Bill surpasses both of them).
Bill Ward is my favorite BLACK SABBATH member also!!! Only got too see him once @ the ozzfest 2005 show, all four original Black Sabbath members performed that night! 😎😆😁
Footnote: I also saw the Black Sabbath " End Tour " but it just wasn't the real Black Sabbath to me without Mr.Bill Ward. Tommy was good, but he ain't no Bill Ward, just the facts man!!! 😎🤔😆
So much respect for him and others of this generation that took drums into a whole different direction. Ward is one of The Godfathers of modern music. An absolute icon.
I've been a Sabbath fan since their first album in 1970. I am not a musician but it seems to me you know greatness when you hear it. Bill Ward has always been one of the greatest drummers in my opinion. I only wish there were more of these videos around. Thank you so much for recognizing this grossly underrated drummer and letting many others know what Sabbath fans have known for a very long time!
Wow!!!! Only got to see Sabbath with Ozzy and that was in the late 90s on the ozzfest runs. I cried bro, never thought I would ever see them live , was an amazing moment.
He had his own style, and he deserves more recognition! Black Sabbath without any of the original menbers it ain't Black Sabbath... Each menber gave something unic to their sound, Thanks for this Drumeo!
I am in 1969 .. at that time when I was young we only had one radiostation … they played every week on one evening one metal song … the first song I ever recorded on cassette was paranoid … and that was one game changer for me … I started to play drums … now we compose songs and I understand what incredible creative work bill had done … love this portraits .. thanks 🙏
I have traced my love of drums right back to "The Wizard" by Bill Ward. I was just a child when I heard that track. There was no choice for me. I had to pick up some pencils and bang on my Mother's candy dish. This obsession lead to drum lessons which I started on 7/8/78 and my life was changed forever. I have accomplished more than I ever imagined playing in multiple states and opening for some very well known music acts. I am now in my mid 50's and still at today. To me there is no competition who sits on top of the drum hill. The one and only Bill Ward.
The thing I learned from Bill is feel- as a kid I did nothing but copy everything he did and once I could play his stuff I realized I could play whatever I wanted- or at least I had a grasp at the basics of everything else. The way his feel is like big band or swing while the rest of the band is playing early heavy metal is what sets him apart from every other drummer. I still remember trying for 2 weeks to get Wasp/behind the wall of sleep and It was so hard but it was such a cool feel that I persisted and once I got it I felt so accomplished- I learned so much from that one piece of music. Thank you Bill! You are the king of drums!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bill Ward is the MAN! Can we all admire Brandon's greatness as well. He does so many of these "the genius of" videos and always crushes the demonstrations. I got his DRUMEO book, "the Drummer's Toolbox" as a Christmas gift from my wife. It is awesome .There is so much in there to learn. 'll be using it for a very long time. Thank you Brandon. 23 years on GUITAR, 2.5 years into drumming.
Thank you for highlighting Mr Ward!!! Also for mentioning tracks from all the albums that he played on during his time with Sabbath as well as his solo works. Bill’s playing is a big reason why my playing is what it is. Thank you Bill Ward!!!!
It’s about time this guy is recognized as one of the great rock drummers. I’m not even a big fan of Sabbath. But, as a fellow drummer I appreciate the genius of Mr. Ward, and it’s his work that is the only reason I listen to this band. I’m a Bonzo head, and I put Bill Ward right there along side of, in my opinion, the greatest drummer in rock history.
One of my ultimate drumming heroes ... seen Bill on numerous occasions and met him once ... also still have the dried up carnation flower he threw off his kit at a gig in Cardiff south wales uk ... Bill is THE hardest hitting drummer I have ever seen and I've seen 100's ... he is The Thunder God of drums ... love you Bill x
every single time I hear Bill I notice something new, I learn a little more about the deep philosofies of drumming and being a drummer. Thank you so much Brandon, Tyson and all at Drumeo for this.
Thank you Drumeo for highlighting Mr Ward!! Well deserved, he has been pushed aside for many years and left in the shadows, but he was and is an equal part of Black Sabbath just as the rest of the band!!
Stood in line for hours to get Black Sabbath's signature on the "Reunion" album. I actually shook Bill Ward's hand! As a drummer, it was definitely a highlight of my life! I'll never forget it!
Tower Records in Hollywood? I was there also! Bill and Tony were friendly and shook hands, Ozzy was spaced out and Geezer was cranky. I framed my autographed (by all four OG Sabs) CD insert. EPIC! ,,\/, ,\/,,
My favourite genius of yet. Massively overlooked drumming style that moulded sabbaths sound and feel. For me he is one of the hardest drummers to try and emulate as he’s more jazz than metal but that’s what makes him so unique. Love you Bill🤘🏻
The most important lesson from Bill was the feel of the rhythm and the heart behind all he played. He truly was the cog in the wheel of Black Sabbath. Thank You, Bill for your exceptional playing and inspiration to music and musicians ❤️🤘🤓🥁❤️
His drumming is just incredible. He makes it breath and swing while at the same time , laying it down so heavy and big with dynamics and ghost notes. Superb I say
I was so impressed by Bill Ward back in the day. Tremendous drummer, I really enjoyed his work on the Paranoid, Master of Reality and Sabotage albums. He was so powerful, yet had a really top notch jazz oriented swing. Definitely one of the top rock drummers of that era.
It's about time Bill Ward is analyzed and praised for his iconic work, influence, and talent! One of the greatest drummers in an era of unreal drummers. Not mentioned nearly as much as he should be. A true legend! 🤘
Bill Ward is a brilliant drummer. His creative grooves and musical fills drove the band that not only defined heavy metal, but also influenced stoner and grunge. Thanks for another great video, Brandon.
Thank you for taking the time to give some time to Bill Ward, still one of my favorite drummers. The metal/jazz relationship is going to be timeless, I think.
Before Drumeo, I never would have learned Metal drummers were influenced by Jazz and other genres. Metal is not my thing, but this video gave me a newfound respect for Bill Ward and other drummers.
One of my absolute favorites!! Sabbath were an amazing and underrated band. Rollins nailed it in his description. As great as Tony's riffs were, Bill and Geezer really made that band what they were. I've been playing guitar for almost 40 years and to me the most important element of a band is still the drumming. It has the power to transform any part of any song.
No reason why this dude is talked about so little, he was literally the og metal drummer and a fucking genius at that
i've actually been thing a lot lately about how absolutely underappreciated he has always seemed to be. it's almost as if he kinda gets lost in the shuffle between Bonham and Peart.
Agreed! This guy is a monster on the drums and influenced so many drummers.
have you watched any of andrew rooney's sabbath reaction videos? he does some pretty interesting breakdowns of bill's work.
I think everyone recognizes his importance.
FUK YEAH
Bill Ward might be honestly the most underrated drummer I can imagine. He’s so groovy and tasty, he swings, his pocket is dope. Oh yeah… and his FILLS!!!
Him and Collins in same boat but for different reasons. I’m a musician but not a drummer,( programme them but not a legit drummer), and weirdly I think it’s Ward’s and Collins musicality that shines through, not that they aren’t technically great I’d assume, given what other great drummers have said about them.
Underrated?! The man was an absolute Icon! Just stop... 🙄
@@amjrpain919 it’s all relative, he doesn’t tend to get mentioned in conversations of drumming greats, a bit like Mitch Mitchell.. calm down!
Not Many Metal Drummers swing! Gar and Dave come to Mind....
@@ashleymerritt9461 No mate, Ward is a legend amongst musicians, you want a real underrated drummer, look at Mick Tucker from Sweet, now there's a guy that barely gets a mention, and I rate him ahead of Ian Paice....
War Pigs, Paris 1970. Best drum performance I've ever seen. Just insane.
Beat those drums like they owed him money still my favorite Sabbath video it was unreal.
Fuck yeah
Hit em even harder 4 years later at California Jam 😅 Guess he's only ever just nailed this anthem.
Hell yea he fucks them drums up. Drum abuse
Once I found that Paris video I chased it around as they kept pulling it down. Finally they made it official. It's so pure. Ozzy is just singing and not playing to his future reputation. Bill is so good it's beyond description. Tony of course is killing it and Geezer is holding it all together. That concert all pure and fresh.
Bill's drums in "Warpigs" is what got me into Sabbath. Those rolls had me hooked. It breaks my heart that he doesn't get more recognition.
IRON MAN, here.
War Pigs is what got me playing the drums and listening to them ever since. He is underrated.
Powerful stuff.
We were teenage kids in the 1970s, using Sabbath's rehearsal room at Fields Farm Bishampton UK.
Bill came in and proceeded to jam with us for an hour or so.
He had encouraging comments for us.
We will never forget his generosity!
Great bloke!
❤❤❤Wish I was hanging with you Bloks...😂
Bill Ward is the pocket, feel and groove. Never replicated. Absolute master.
I think even the other SABS would agree with you. I’m sure if he had maintained his playing we would never have heard another drummer with sabbath but the truth seems to be that he kinda lost his chops and feel a long time ago. Check out his playing in some of his final shows with sabbath. It’s not good. He’s one of my favorites but he wasn’t cutting it.
@@bobkeen2138 I know there is a couple names that comes to mind that have ruined people and their ability to play really good music. That'd be Alcohol and Cocaine. That's the number 1 & 2 culprits in the downfall of many musicians in the late 70s. So very sad that they either don't care that they are playing worse, disbelieve what their bandmates, producers, family & friends are telling them, or they simply thought that all their mistakes could be cleaned up during the final mix as the music is polished at the end of production. Unfortunatly a shiny turd is still a turd.
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Bill’s jazz training is essential. His swing and groove is the secret sauce.
"Fairies' Wear Boots" is a classic swing.
Absolutely!!
That entire generation of English drummers who grew up when Jazz was the most popular music are at the top of my list: Ward, Mitchell, Bonham, Baker, Watts
Bill isn't just a drummer, he's a percussionist
He's a very orchestral drummer too, listen to "Children of The Grave" and how he plays to that song, no one does or ever has played the drums like Bill Ward
He was a snarist too.
No he's a drummer albeit a very good one. Carl Palmer is a percussionist😮
All that while beating his kit like it owed him money.
Not a musician nevermind a drummer and I love the vids on thisl....can't read music or anything like that but I understand theory I guess it's called so much more after watching these vids...wicked cool
As a guitar player for 45yrs....i can say Bill is the only drummer i activly remember paying any attention to. Those first 3 sabb albums he really shined thru
First six Sabbath albums*
One of the most underrated drummers ever. He's really up there with Moon, Ginger, Bonham and Mitchell with his chops, groove and power.
And Micheal Shrieve!!!
And Michael Giles. Court of the Crimson king is crazy
Biggest lesson from Bill Ward: let groove and emotions rule the song - stay off the grid! Perfect is not “perfect” 👊🏻😎
And here, have a personal Bill Ward rendition (fusion-style) ✌🏻🤩
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Sometimes it's the imperfections that make it perfect. If you want "perfect", get a drum machine.
Totally feel that when I learn his songs, nothin feels repeated and u have to stay loose to play it correctly . that and u can feel the tempo change throughout the song to match the feeling the rest of the music. Songs are always harder to learn n memorize then i anticipate 😅
Your comment is pretty much a summary of my comment I posted. It can be perfect but not perfect
@@joetroutt7425 Ok, I didn’t read your comment, but great; then we’re on the same page 👍🏻
It still amazes me that he doesn't get enough recognition, this man is literally the original metal drummer and it's awesome
just rock and roll
He gets plenty. Every metal musician in the world loves Bills work. Just stop with this dream that he's somewhat unloved or unknown.
Just because he doesnt get 1000s of tiktoks uploaded about him doesnt mean he doesnt get recognition. Ask any musician especially drummers they all know who Bill Ward is
ITS ABOUT TIME!!! Most underrated drummer ever. A true genius
There's the word I've been waiting for, "underrated". Who's "underrating" him? Drummers don't such as me. Here's another classic, "Alex Leifson is so "underrated". Have you ever looked up the meaning of that word?
I second that, brother! Bill Ward is the funkiest hard rock drummer this side of Bonham! I don’t mean that as a put-down of Bill, he’s a superb drummer. A National Acrobat is one of my all-time favorite Sabbath songs because of Bill’s serious funky groove. Sabbath never lost their groove feel, at least up to Sabotage. Bill is one amazing drummer!
@@TM_StoneWell, yeah, a drummer would respect Bill Ward. It’s the general music listening audience that doesn’t realize without that rhythm section of Ward and Butler, Sabbath loses ALL their musical power. No offense meant to Iommi and Ozzy, just my opinion.
@@TM_StoneAlex Lifeson is absolutely underrated. He plays with the most talented rhythm section of all time and bcuz of that he is not as valued as the rest of the band
@@poindextertunes Can you provide a quote from someone prominent saying he has little value?
Hand Of Doom is my fav Sabbath song because of the drumming
What changes gonna door times caught up to youhoo 🤘🖤🖤🖤🖤
Best sabbath song
I hope everybody reads this! I was 12 years old in 1970, and I only listen to Pop music are used to drive my brothers crazy because I knew every song and would sing. That was until a friend of mine called me up and said I’m dropping off an eight track to you. You got a listen to this. as soon as I got it, I ran upstairs put the eight track in and war pigs started! That album changed everything musically for me. I couldn’t believe what I I was listening to. I couldn’t get enough I found myself going to record stores and figuring out what type of music this was. Now at the age of 66 can say, without a doubt that album changed my whole perspective on music. To this day, I crank it up, I had a bunch of kids at a stoplight. Take a picture of me and jammin with Black Sabbath. What a brilliant band the musicianship these guys have or unbelievable. The down tuning on his guitar miraculous the bass thumping through the drums leading everybody else I could go on and on, but I won’t, I’m just grateful for Sabbath by the way, I never listen to pop music again
GREAT STORY, Sir!!!
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I’m very sorry to say, I only discovered these incredible men a little over a year ago and had the same experience as you….you put it very well… I’m 41 and I told an older friend recently, I feel like I’m discovering music for the first time 😳!… I hate that it’s so late in life that I’ve found this awe inspiring music… I told my Mom, it’s like a thunder and lightening storm… it’s so BIG, so POWERFUL- it hits you right in the gut and stops you in your tracks and Ozzys voice reaches in and grabs ur heart and Geezers poetic lyrics of topics were all concerned about … no other music can compare !🎶 …I wish I could tell them how much I appreciate their hard work and sacrifice.
@@sophielily2015 check out my comment on the video lots of good band recommendations from that time period, sort by last first and you should find it. Rock on!
I thought music was so so before I heard War Pigs. I think that got me into singing too. Though started in emo with an annoying voice because that was the "in" music.
The time has come 😈
I just have to ask: any relation to Jonathan?
Finally!! Thank you so much for this 🥁
Loved how the kit grew mid video :D
yes baby! I am always for 666
@BoBo McBooboy It looks like your reply was removed. It was just a fun question.
Bill Ward's swing grooves are unmatched. The way he can let Geezer's bass stand out clearly on the surface, then bring all hell crashing down around it, is simply genius. Nobody can match that intensity or heavy groove. Sprinkle in Iommi's epic riffs, and at that point Ozzy could sing the phone book over it, and it would sound crushing.
Geezer and Bill went off in their own directions on many songs, but somehow made it work. They could have simply stuck with a pattern and repeated it, instead they tried something very different and it worked. Bassically/NIB was one of the first metal bass solos. Yes, all in EM, Geezer rarely left that key. the rips Bill played on Symptom of the Universe are my favorite. I played it for my middle school friends who were both drummers, blew their minds.
@@ShuKatashSam That's why I laugh at people who ask why Bill hasn't played on any of the recent stuff. Has it not occurred to them, that drumming for Black Sabbath isn't easy? Bill would tell you himself, he simply doesn't have the chops to do the songs justice anymore. The lads are getting up in age. Ozzy desperately wants to perform one last time with all four original members, specifically Bill. If they get on as a headliner for a big multi band show, I can see them filling seats.
People throw around the word "underrated" a lot, but Bill really doesn't get talked about enough in the great drummers of rock conversation. His loose, thundering groove was a huge part of Sabbath's sound ❤
welcome to TH-cam, unless you are Eddie Van Halen , John Bonham, or Freddie Mercury you get labelled "underrated", and even those guys get lots of "underrated" comments.
@@sirborges My experience has been different. I feel he rarely gets mentioned in these conversation. Have a nice day!
@@Brand73 Maybe. I apologize for having thoughts on the matter and expressing them.
Unlike overrated John Bonham
I’m a drummer and when people ask me who my favourite drummer is I say Bill Ward and they usually say “who’s that”
One of my favourite drummers, an absolute legend.
What an amazing document of what made Bill Ward one of the best. A truly special musician, and one of my all time favorites.
As a bass player Bill Ward lead me down the path to respecting drummers more than any other parts of a band that when the bassist and drummer are in sync nothing can stop them...
Kudos! As a drummer, Geezer is definitely one of my favorite bassists.
I'm a bass player too. Geezer is the reason why.
But Bills drums are the tastiest, heaviest I've ever heard to this day. It wouldn't have been Sabbath without him. Or any of them. Just the best.
Damn dude you figured it out😮
If the drummer sucks, your band sucks. That's what I've learned playing in bands. Black Sabbath is simply not the same band without Bill. Not that Vinnie Appice is a bad drummer, he's a good rock and roll drummer but Bill is a rock drummer and a percussionist . He thinks more like an orchestral percussionist than a rock drummer. His style is part of what made those 70s albums great and unique. They are a different band entirely without Bill Ward.
Boss I can't play a single instrument, but have nothing but love and respect for players. When I listen to a band, I always focus on the bass and drums first. If you can't keep my toes tapping, head moving, etc, your lead vocals and guitar won't keep me listening. I think my appreciation for bassists and drummers comes from my football playing days as an offensive lineman. Lineman, bassists, and drummers aren't so different in the fact that they're usually the most important facet to their group without getting the love they should.
Bill will always one of the biggest influences to my drumming, forever grateful to my dad for raising me on Black Sabbath. I'm 24 years old now & play drums in a few bands but I will always let the Bill Ward influence shine through no matter what
I’m 38 and have the same thoughts. My dad got me into Sabbath and I was lucky enough to start playing during the Ozzfest Era. Fortunate to have a little bit of Bill Ward in my playing to this day.
@@ericbert6551 Heres to all the Dad's still raising their kids on Sabbath! 🤘
Nice guys- I love Bill but saw Ronnie with Cozy, Richie and Roger and three years later Ronnie with Vinnie, Geezer and Tony on Mob Rules. Still remember the date, 12-18-81. Bill was absent through most of my upbringing so really loved the new guys back then
You will do well son
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Thank you Drumeo. Finally, Ward is honored as an influence and amazing drummer. Plus......the way Fairies Wear Boots should be played. Amazing.
He is easily one of my top five favorite drummers. Bill's fills and groove are stellar. And he can swing.
I've been saying this for decades.No massive kit or fancy trinkets.Just solid hard work.Never a dull moment.The man was busy.
You nailed it Gregg. Drumeo proved your point by putting together the 2 Bill Ward drum kits... amazing how Paranoid all erupted from that sparse set of equipment
Finally! This man is the reason I play drums. My dad gave me the black sabbath live Paris 1970 vhs tape for my birthday in the 90s, and I remember him saying, "You want to see a badass drummer? come here.." and we sat and watched it together, and I was blown away. When I got my drum set, I used to play along to that tape every day after school, blasting it through my dad's entertainment system. That's literally how I learned how to play the drums.. playing along to Bill Ward. Smashing away on a little 4 piece with upside sticks.🥁🤘🏾
Same for me in about 1974 🖤🖤🖤🖤
Hell yeah! Now we're talkin.
Finally, I wanted to see a video on Bill Ward. Thank you Drumeo.
One thing Bill's drumming taught me: When I was a youngin' first delving into all things distorted and driving, my first foray into metal was the 80's thrash scene. The big 4, Testament, Pantera, Sepultura, etc., etc. I had no real exposure to Black Sabbath for several years.
Then, I was at a friends house one weekend, doing what teenagers do, getting blasted and listening to music, when Black Sabbath was put on. Now, my friend had an amazing sound system for the time, and had the speakers placed in such a way that the whole room was a good spot to listen and get the best soundstage. That album, well, it blew my understanding of what metal drumming was supposed to be into pieces.
I understood then, that the formula was not concrete... it wasn't rigid. Sure, genres tend to repeat specific chops/rhythms across bands that identify with said genres, but none of it was required. Metal is an energy, a vibe if you will, that can be supported and perpetuated by the drums in more than a formulaic way. Bill's drums epitomized that for me and actually led me more away from pure speed and technical metal genres into Prog and fusion. I mean, here was the one that is renowned for starting it all, playing truly heavy parts in ways I had not heard before. My mind was blown.
Now, as a lover of all things weird and groovy in metal/hard rock, I can honestly attribute that appreciation to Bill Ward. I would never have given bands like Tool, that deviated from the Metal norm but which had some truly awesome drum parts and timing, a chance, without that exposure to his non-metal approach to the first (for the most part, there are some possible contenders for that that were and are less known, and so therefore considered not as influential) metal albums lol. \m/
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I’ve been drumming for 40 years. I’ve always thought Bill Ward is the most underrated drummer from that generation. Unfortunately, there’s not a lot of live sabbath out there: but if you pay attention, you’ll hear Bill Ward absolutely beating the shit out of his drum kit . Simply awesome. It’s good to hear in this podcast, the attention paid to the idea that there’s a lot of jazz in sabbath.
Bill Ward is a God tier drummer and deserves to be brought up consistently in the same sentence as his peers like Bonham and others. Bill didn't just keep time, he swang and grooved all other these songs and created the most unique musical landscape ever. The way he hangs back just a bit behind the rest of the band in the intro for Into the Void gives me goosebumps. His fills in the chorus of War Pigs in their 1970 live show are electrifying. Bill Ward was the heart of Black Sabbath and he will never ever be replicated. Such a nice bloke too.
Exactly. So much swing and groove in his playing.
Bill (Ward)'s influence on my style is immeasurable. He is my Living Hero.
Ludwig Hero too!!
Bill literally taught the world that playing with feel and emotion rules above all else. There's no "right or wrong way" to write a song. Play what you feel and the people will always listen.
I'm honored to share a birthday with the great Bill Ward.
Black Sabbath and Bill Ward. Gosh what can I say, but they're simply the damn best. I'm so thankful for their music.
Bill Ward is the beginning and the end of the conversation for what makes heavy metal drumming at its best. Extremity combined with pocket. Intention combined with improvisation. Groove combined with technicality. One of my all-time influences and a continuous source of inspiration.
Struggling to find the words to express how much I love his drumming. One of the main reasons that got me into heavy metal. Thank you Bill Ward - and thank you Drumeo for this long-overdue video.
whenever l'm asked who my fav drummer is l always say bill ward and they always ask why and say that strange, but if you listen to his drumming it takes you on a journey both mentally and in person. the power feel and emotion of his drumming is the best.
Bill ward truly was and is a genius, as was the whole band. "....Black Sabbath was the first punk band." Man, he said it. I love this guy.
As a drummer who played Black sabbath b sides for over ten years all I got to say is THANK YOU DRUMEO FOR FINALLY DOING JUSTICE FOR BILL WARD.
This is amazing material, wonderful work from all of you. Congratulations, I really mean it!
Bill Ward is a legend.
Many of my old vinyl records are just a memory in the record cabinet.
Black Sabbath is doing the rounds on the turntable as fresh as ever.
I hope someone will play the old records at my last party.
Thank you.
Bill was absolutely incredible on the song Symptom of the Universe. The sound of his cymbals on that album, as well as on the Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Paranoid albums are, in my opinion , the best I've ever heard
He has my favorite drum sound
That song is a perfect encapsulation of Sabbath at their peak. That transition from the solo into the groovy acoustic outro is sublime.
One of my top 3 hands down 👏🏼 him, Paicey & Mitch Mitchell. Cant wait next for The Genius of Ian Paice
Don't let the Rush fans see this
On both comments, 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 THIS!!!!!
Portnoy?
I rate Mick Tucker ahead of Paice, and I'm a big fan of Paice..
Paicey is always my favorite & he only has a single bass drum but that foot is the key HA !!
He could space from heavy rock to samba music. There will never be another drummer like him!
I bought “Sabotage” about a year after it came out when I was in middle school, and that album became my drum teacher “Symptom of the Universe” is epic. Every Sabbath album that Ward plays on, is in itself, is mind blowing. Excellent video. This could be four hours long and you still couldn’t say enough. “Hand of Doom” was always one of my favorite songs that Ward played on.
What a legend. I’ve been playing along with Bill Ward in my headphones for about 35 years. Probably my favorite drummer ever, Bonham and Peart close seconds
Matter of fact, that snare flam on “The Wizard”, before the heaviness begins with that riff…man, we are talking about 1970!…we are so lucky to still have this guy with us. THANK YOU Bill!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Bill, Tony, Ozzy and Geezer are all musical geniuses. Without all 4 of them creating such an amazing sound I might not have ever picked up a guitar. Electric funeral was the first song I ever learned how to play. That was 30 years ago when I was 11 and I haven't put the guitar down since. The amount of influence these 4 dudes have on almost every single rock/metal musician from my generation cannot and should not ever be discounted or forgotten.
at last a proper presentation on why Bill Wards drumming and feel are essential in Sabbath....loved this.
bravo Drumeo. as a GenX'r it's so refreshing to see and hear the younger generations fully realizing the origins of some of the best heavy metal music around IMO
He’s one of my favorite drummers and totally underrated i’m so glad to see him get some love
Bill Ward taught me how to hit the drums hard and mean every note your playing, no matter what. There’s life in every note you play, every drum and cymbal you hit!!! Thanks for the timeless music Mr. Ward!!!
I'm a huge fan of Black Sabbath and Bill Ward is a huge influence on my playing. He laid the foundation for metal musicians from Kyuss to Mastodon to Metallica to Slayer. All of us who play metal of any kind owe him a debt of gratitude. This was a very thoughtful presentation and great production. Great work, Brandon!
Bill Ward is one of the nicest guys I ever got to meet at the Mason Jar in Phoenix Arizona years ago. I saw him on his second solo tour. He's actually a very good singer and front man as well as one of the all time classic Drummers in Hard Rock and Heavy Metal.
This is the most fun I've had watching this show. He is absolutely one of my heroes without him I don't think I would be the drummer that I am today
Bill's my favorite Sabbath member. I love his solo albums as well. THIS IS THEEEE MOST thorough analysis of Bill Ward. He is vastly under appreciate amongst the Bonhams and Bakers (whom I think Bill surpasses both of them).
Bill Ward is my favorite BLACK SABBATH member also!!! Only got too see him once @ the ozzfest 2005 show, all four original Black Sabbath members performed that night! 😎😆😁
Footnote: I also saw the Black Sabbath " End Tour " but it just wasn't the real Black Sabbath to me without Mr.Bill Ward. Tommy was good, but he ain't no Bill Ward, just the facts man!!! 😎🤔😆
So much respect for him and others of this generation that took drums into a whole different direction. Ward is one of The Godfathers of modern music. An absolute icon.
I've been a Sabbath fan since their first album in 1970. I am not a musician but it seems to me you know greatness when you hear it. Bill Ward has always been one of the greatest drummers in my opinion. I only wish there were more of these videos around. Thank you so much for recognizing this grossly underrated drummer and letting many others know what Sabbath fans have known for a very long time!
Saw him in Sabbath with Ozzy,Deo, and Ian Gilan and it was amazing to watch every time
Wow!!!! Only got to see Sabbath with Ozzy and that was in the late 90s on the ozzfest runs. I cried bro, never thought I would ever see them live , was an amazing moment.
His drumming makes Black Sabbath . I couldn't imagine a different drummer.
He had his own style, and he deserves more recognition! Black Sabbath without any of the original menbers it ain't Black Sabbath... Each menber gave something unic to their sound,
Thanks for this Drumeo!
I am in 1969 .. at that time when I was young we only had one radiostation … they played every week on one evening one metal song … the first song I ever recorded on cassette was paranoid … and that was one game changer for me … I started to play drums … now we compose songs and I understand what incredible creative work bill had done … love this portraits .. thanks 🙏
I have traced my love of drums right back to "The Wizard" by Bill Ward. I was just a child when I heard that track. There was no choice for me. I had to pick up some pencils and bang on my Mother's candy dish. This obsession lead to drum lessons which I started on 7/8/78 and my life was changed forever. I have accomplished more than I ever imagined playing in multiple states and opening for some very well known music acts. I am now in my mid 50's and still at today. To me there is no competition who sits on top of the drum hill. The one and only Bill Ward.
I don't play drums but I remember being mesmerized by "The Wizard" as well (around 9yo).
Bills the best
Tru dat
I never met Bill, I did get to meet Geezer in the 1990's though.
@@jpip1382 No, I have toured America doing tribute bands though.
“If I don’t leave it all there it’s a wait of time” I love that!
Long Live Bill Ward !! Absolute Legend !!
The thing I learned from Bill is feel- as a kid I did nothing but copy everything he did and once I could play his stuff I realized I could play whatever I wanted- or at least I had a grasp at the basics of everything else. The way his feel is like big band or swing while the rest of the band is playing early heavy metal is what sets him apart from every other drummer. I still remember trying for 2 weeks to get Wasp/behind the wall of sleep and It was so hard but it was such a cool feel that I persisted and once I got it I felt so accomplished- I learned so much from that one piece of music. Thank you Bill! You are the king of drums!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Top observations.
Bill Ward is the MAN!
Can we all admire Brandon's greatness as well. He does so many of these "the genius of" videos and always crushes the demonstrations. I got his DRUMEO book, "the Drummer's Toolbox" as a Christmas gift from my wife.
It is awesome .There is so much in there to learn.
'll be using it for a very long time. Thank you Brandon.
23 years on GUITAR, 2.5 years into drumming.
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Thank you for highlighting Mr Ward!!! Also for mentioning tracks from all the albums that he played on during his time with Sabbath as well as his solo works. Bill’s playing is a big reason why my playing is what it is. Thank you Bill Ward!!!!
It’s about time this guy is recognized as one of the great rock drummers. I’m not even a big fan of Sabbath. But, as a fellow drummer I appreciate the genius of Mr. Ward, and it’s his work that is the only reason I listen to this band. I’m a Bonzo head, and I put Bill Ward right there along side of, in my opinion, the greatest drummer in rock history.
One of my ultimate drumming heroes ... seen Bill on numerous occasions and met him once ... also still have the dried up carnation flower he threw off his kit at a gig in Cardiff south wales uk ... Bill is THE hardest hitting drummer I have ever seen and I've seen 100's ... he is The Thunder God of drums ... love you Bill x
every single time I hear Bill I notice something new, I learn a little more about the deep philosofies of drumming and being a drummer. Thank you so much Brandon, Tyson and all at Drumeo for this.
Thank you Drumeo for highlighting Mr Ward!! Well deserved, he has been pushed aside for many years and left in the shadows, but he was and is an equal part of Black Sabbath just as the rest of the band!!
Stood in line for hours to get Black Sabbath's signature on the "Reunion" album. I actually shook Bill Ward's hand! As a drummer, it was definitely a highlight of my life! I'll never forget it!
Tower Records in Hollywood? I was there also! Bill and Tony were friendly and shook hands, Ozzy was spaced out and Geezer was cranky. I framed my autographed (by all four OG Sabs) CD insert. EPIC! ,,\/, ,\/,,
Thank you for this! Bill Ward lit a drumming light in me when I was a kid! Changed my life forever...
These videos are gold. They makes you appriciate the music even more. I've allways loved Black Sabbath, but now I love them even more.
He took Jazz style drumming and invented Metal Drumming that we see & hear today ! Sheer Genius !!
One of my favorite drummers of all time.
My favourite genius of yet. Massively overlooked drumming style that moulded sabbaths sound and feel. For me he is one of the hardest drummers to try and emulate as he’s more jazz than metal but that’s what makes him so unique. Love you Bill🤘🏻
He’s always been one of my favorites, his style is so unique for metal. It’s great learning that he’s a great human too.
Outstanding stuff!
My favourite rock drummer , along with Peart ,Bonham ,Paice and philthy.
Many thanks for posting
You’ve finally covered my favorite drummer! He’s the reason I started playing back in 1993 and still to this day. Thank you!
The most important lesson from Bill was the feel of the rhythm and the heart behind all he played. He truly was the cog in the wheel of Black Sabbath. Thank You, Bill for your exceptional playing and inspiration to music and musicians ❤️🤘🤓🥁❤️
Bill Ward inspired me as a stoner/doom metal drummer to play heavy & all I can say he’s my main inspiration since Black Sabbath.
His drumming is just incredible. He makes it breath and swing while at the same time , laying it down so heavy and big with dynamics and ghost notes. Superb I say
I was so impressed by Bill Ward back in the day. Tremendous drummer, I really enjoyed his work on the Paranoid, Master of Reality and Sabotage albums. He was so powerful, yet had a really top notch jazz oriented swing. Definitely one of the top rock drummers of that era.
It's about time Bill Ward is analyzed and praised for his iconic work, influence, and talent! One of the greatest drummers in an era of unreal drummers. Not mentioned nearly as much as he should be. A true legend! 🤘
Bill Ward is a brilliant drummer. His creative grooves and musical fills drove the band that not only defined heavy metal, but also influenced stoner and grunge. Thanks for another great video, Brandon.
First metal drummer with blues swagger and big band swing. Hell yea.
Excellent video! Bill Ward deserves so much credit for his work!!!
Thank you for taking the time to give some time to Bill Ward, still one of my favorite drummers. The metal/jazz relationship is going to be timeless, I think.
It's about time! The biggest, greatest and best influence on drums ever!
Finally someone Has acknowledged that BEAST of a drummer
Finally you found one of the hundreds of videos acknowledging Bills brilliance.
Among the many things I've learnt from watching this video is to go back and listen to the early black sabbath albums one by one!
One of the first drummers I listened to as a youngster being introduced to rock music by a friend. Timeless.
Ward's work on Children of the Grave made me fall in love with drumming.
Before Drumeo, I never would have learned Metal drummers were influenced by Jazz and other genres. Metal is not my thing, but this video gave me a newfound respect for Bill Ward and other drummers.
The guys from the old bands were jazz influenced, I don't know about the newer bands
Yeeaaah! Bill Ward is one of my favorite drummers of all time and he is so underrated. Thank you.
One of my absolute favorites!! Sabbath were an amazing and underrated band. Rollins nailed it in his description. As great as Tony's riffs were, Bill and Geezer really made that band what they were. I've been playing guitar for almost 40 years and to me the most important element of a band is still the drumming. It has the power to transform any part of any song.
the shuffle-fills in the fast part of "under the sun" blew me away.... been a fan for 50 years and going
Thank you for this in the beginning of my teenage years of my life. And what I still listen too. I'm going on 65.