For me, the best chapter was the last ten minutes. believability and sincerity and the thought process behind animation is definitely the most important and most meaningful part of the artform. I have really learnt a lot about the medium from this podcast. Thanks very much
Great talk, I discovered Tom's book while I was in college studying industrial design almost 2 decades ago. I was able to apply his principles to not only characters but to products as well. I got his book character mentor about a decade ago, together probably one of the most complete resources on character design. I grew up in the 90's absolutely loved everything Glen Keane/ Disney did. I actually applied to the Animation program at Sheridan though in the end I decided to go with a industrial design since 2D was sadly fading away. The great thing about ID is that you get to be a rennsisance artist, you go from blue sky to construction. Every project is started with finding problems and creating solutions via sketching making prototypes by hand and or 3d bringing it to a finish. Though it misses out on the ability Great Animation has to create fun, memorable moments and touching stories.
This was a great podcast. I love hearing the jokes you guys were making, the thought process of going into animation instead of just the technical side of the shots really makes you think differently about why you like animation. it is the emotional scenes in movies that get you to come back to that movie often, not just the cool fight scenes. that is part of why I just left my animation Uni and just learnt as much as I could from Aaron Blaise(who was mentored by Glen Keane also) and other animators like him. The Uni wasn't teaching me anything substantial other than the basic tools so I just cut my losses and learnt as much as I could myself. I also can pat myself on the back a little for using that kind of thought process myself in the past by not worrying as much about the technical side of the animations and making them look crisp but just focusing on the emotion and character building that is more of what animation is about. I love hearing about the history of the 9 old men teaching the generations and then the animators after that also trying to give their knowledge that they have accumulated to the next generations. I would like it so much if I had masters sit down and have a chat with me and just give me worlds of knowledge. I was thinking to day as well what would Michelangelo and other renowned painters of their time have done with animation. I think of it as one of the biggest modern mediums being animation which would have impressed so many ancient people in the past. what would they have animated? Thanks for this podcast. I really needed it. it refreshed my passion for the medium and I want to be looking out for other people like that girl who drew Ariel with some different ideas which Glen Keane was also inspired by. I want to look out for other people who are able to inspire me even though they might be below me. I also want to be humble enough and not have an ego when looking for inspiration as well.
Even though it doesnt take place during winter *Light of the World* really sounds like an end of year film that the family goes to in a similar vain to *The Prince of Egypt*
Like Ed Catmull Blake Ross and myself,Glen Keane has Aphantasia (No mental imagery at all).Our reasoning is based on emotions facts and dimensions. We are not influenced by past images or picture while drawing. We draw what the picture feels through our head and body. The opposite is Hyperphantasia a video like mental imagery meaning too much choices of pictures per second. Google to find out where you are in this spectrum. It's real science.
Why WOULD you want to go seen animation? Exactly that.... i'll chose the broader cartoonish style of Alladin or Mermaid over any more realistic animation. Who cares when it gets into the "creepy" zone of being too close to nature.
39:28 I totally agree with Tom here, I miss these films so dearly, I wish we’d go back to this style, it just speaks to the heart
Yes, just exploring different forms and playing with the shape, not being too rigid in design
For me, the best chapter was the last ten minutes. believability and sincerity and the thought process behind animation is definitely the most important and most meaningful part of the artform. I have really learnt a lot about the medium from this podcast. Thanks very much
Always nice to listen to someone gush over another person for so long like this
It’s so nice isn’t it? I think we need a healthy dose of artist gushing once in a while
Great talk, I discovered Tom's book while I was in college studying industrial design almost 2 decades ago. I was able to apply his principles to not only characters but to products as well. I got his book character mentor about a decade ago, together probably one of the most complete resources on character design. I grew up in the 90's absolutely loved everything Glen Keane/ Disney did. I actually applied to the Animation program at Sheridan though in the end I decided to go with a industrial design since 2D was sadly fading away. The great thing about ID is that you get to be a rennsisance artist, you go from blue sky to construction. Every project is started with finding problems and creating solutions via sketching making prototypes by hand and or 3d bringing it to a finish. Though it misses out on the ability Great Animation has to create fun, memorable moments and touching stories.
Thank you for sharing that. I’m super curious about the world of Industrial design too, all creative fields really.
Really glad you shared that!
@@Any-mation you're welcome, I love learning about other creative disciplines as well. We tend to have a bit of overlap in processes.
This was a great podcast. I love hearing the jokes you guys were making, the thought process of going into animation instead of just the technical side of the shots really makes you think differently about why you like animation. it is the emotional scenes in movies that get you to come back to that movie often, not just the cool fight scenes. that is part of why I just left my animation Uni and just learnt as much as I could from Aaron Blaise(who was mentored by Glen Keane also) and other animators like him. The Uni wasn't teaching me anything substantial other than the basic tools so I just cut my losses and learnt as much as I could myself. I also can pat myself on the back a little for using that kind of thought process myself in the past by not worrying as much about the technical side of the animations and making them look crisp but just focusing on the emotion and character building that is more of what animation is about.
I love hearing about the history of the 9 old men teaching the generations and then the animators after that also trying to give their knowledge that they have accumulated to the next generations.
I would like it so much if I had masters sit down and have a chat with me and just give me worlds of knowledge.
I was thinking to day as well what would Michelangelo and other renowned painters of their time have done with animation. I think of it as one of the biggest modern mediums being animation which would have impressed so many ancient people in the past. what would they have animated?
Thanks for this podcast. I really needed it. it refreshed my passion for the medium and I want to be looking out for other people like that girl who drew Ariel with some different ideas which Glen Keane was also inspired by. I want to look out for other people who are able to inspire me even though they might be below me. I also want to be humble enough and not have an ego when looking for inspiration as well.
As a Christian and an animation lover I'm excited and will definitely be bringing my daughter to watch "Light it the World" next year.
That’s so awesome to hear
This was such a delight to listen to. And a new movie with some of Cartoon Saloon’s pizzazz? I can’t wait!
Even though it doesnt take place during winter *Light of the World* really sounds like an end of year film that the family goes to in a similar vain to *The Prince of Egypt*
Yeah I’m very excited to see what the guys do with it
@Any-mation the concept art is very enticing so I'm keen too 😁
Amazing work by Glenn Keane
He’s a true master
Glenn’s acutely the name of name brother
Like Ed Catmull Blake Ross and myself,Glen Keane has Aphantasia (No mental imagery at all).Our reasoning is based on emotions facts and dimensions. We are not influenced by past images or picture while drawing. We draw what the picture feels through our head and body. The opposite is Hyperphantasia a video like mental imagery meaning too much choices of pictures per second. Google to find out where you are in this spectrum. It's real science.
Wow that’s so interesting, I’ve heard him talk about finding a character, by putting together pieces
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Why WOULD you want to go seen animation? Exactly that.... i'll chose the broader cartoonish style of Alladin or Mermaid over any more realistic animation. Who cares when it gets into the "creepy" zone of being too close to nature.