We have a NEW GOAL! We have got BIG plans in 2022, and if you want to see us do an exciting new video series that will take an even deeper dive on vocals and vocalists, then join us on Patreon and help make this a reality! Joining also allows you to access our community where you can take part in games, events, hangouts, karaoke, and much more with Mark, Alex, and from time to time - special guests! On top of all that, you can even win free vocal evaluations and lessons with Mark! www.patreon.com/kardavoxacademy
My only goal for 2022 is to write and record a song that’s good enough to make it on here (I think I said that already, not that I’m that good yet lol)
hey man, got a video for you to check out, Behind Her Savage Killing - Demolisher (Official Music Video). vocalist slaps hard and doesnt get enough recognition.
This is why Mark is the greatest screaming coach on the platform, he explains the science behind every technique. Not only that, but he encourages everyone to be their own type of vocalist. Thank you Mark.
Ok ok ok but Mark my dude that whole segment of you playing around with placement around 36:40 is a) fucking disgusting in the best way possible and b) so wholesome to just watch you geek out and find new sounds! Loved the vid, analysis, pep talk, the whole nine yards was on point, as always ❤️
This video is a prime example of how you should not be straining or putting in a tonne of effort when screaming. Will acts so calm and relaxed in this video!
But then you see Travis Ryan of Cattle Decap and he's super animated and all over the place, contorting his face and whatnot. You can still have impeccable technique but look like you're actually into it.
@@joshforeman1648 nah he post produces the shit out of his covers and vocal play throughs. It would be preferred with no mic and raw vocals. You can tell he’s lip syncing
I'm not trying to sound exactly like Will. I just want to be at the level of synchronicity with my body where I am as relaxed while belting out these screams as Will. Dude seems like he's at a tea party in his head while he's screaming. It's insane.
Love the longer more technical videos. Would be really interested in seeing technique comparison videos between vocalists, showing how different vocalists approach similar sounds to get their unique versions of x or t technique, with your technical examination explaining through it.
Loved the soapbox sermon. Your videos and presentation style make me feel like I'm listening to a TedTalks podcast on metal vocals with some fantastic critique, coaching, and banter. Your videos are awesome, Mark!
I wish there were more one take videos that were closer to the live performance without layers and heavy mixing. As someone who has gotten absolutely addicted to learning new techniques these live one takes are a god damn gold mine for getting my fix.
@GretchTheZ I agree for the most part. Especially I like the one-takes for the Lorna Shore stuff far better than the album version. Album version sounds like the vocals are often drowning into the instrumentals imo.
On that opening: One of the most amazing things is when you hear a massive crowd of people singing and chanting along with the music they are experiencing live. It's an incredibly powerful thing to hear so many individual voices at different levels, timbres, pitches, in key, out of key, just letting it all come out. Man, that'd suck if they all sounded identical, because even robots don't sound alike. Your individual voice is unique and something you should be proud of. Although some sound ever so close, they never sound identical, it's one of those perfect imperfections of humanity that I utterly adore. (Fun fact: Robots don't actually all sound alike, even if they had the same voice, the speakers emitting the sound would all be ever so slightly different, because there is no such thing as a perfect speaker. It's a strangely endearing concept, we as perfectly imperfect creatures create machines so that they may do what we cannot perfectly, and as a result can never achieve actual perfection. That's a mouthful.)
Haha thanks. Its been a backpocket technique of mine for a while, though im probably not the first to do it. I've been trying to get more vocalists to give it a shot, hopefully it catches on!
I’m with you on the “pray to imitation gods” being one of the most impressive parts. It’s so impactful, even more so in this version. This whole song has a cosmic crazy sort of beauty to it, the lyrics, the symphonic parts, that insane guitar solo, the epic chorus it’s all just so perfect.
I had to comment because I was one of those guys who found the "advanced stuff" easy, but the "simple" stuff extremely hard. I found the mashy lows, screeching highs, and crackle mids really easy. It was the roaring, volumous mids that most people default to that I found most difficult. Great takes@
Travis Ryan from Cattle Decapitation was really the one that progressed these sorts of vocal techniques. Listening to him talk about it is fascinating. The guy deserves way more credit.
I just saw an interview with Will Ramos by Elisabeth from the charismatic voice and Will seemed like a genuine nice guy that wants to learn and offers advice to anyone who wants to learn new ways of singing.
thank you for the pep talk section in the first few minutes of the video, i'm still trying to figure out the basics of harsh vocals and will hear will's mids on the lorna ep and get super intimidated and basically feel like i'm hitting a wall but you're helping remind me that i'll get there, even if the end result isn't quite the same as what his are like
I'm glad someone was listening! Everyone has to start somewhere - never compare your Chapter 2 to someone else's Chapter 20. Keep up the great work dude, and if you ever need help, drop me an email at kardavox1010@gmail.com to learn more about my student offerings!
Thanks again for a great vid tangents are some of the most fun Part, and Will Ramos is amazing to say the least. He is so calm and obviously enjoying himself as he performs. Love the one take vids he has been putting out, and glad you have been covering them, because you can see he really can make that whole song asthma and all. I hope he has as long a career as he wants. Also he did a Tea time with The Charismatic Voice and agreed to a camera down his throat so that will hopefully be something shared and will be amazing. For The science of vocals.
Ooooo that dirty dirty noise at 36:40! Love it. Always love a good pep talk coach, it's so great seeing how much you care about people being confident in themselves.
I cannot believe i just learned that you're the vocalist of Kardashev. I cannot stop listening to Somnus, and when I googled your band it says you guys are from Tempe! Right in my backyard
Bro this vid is easily the best one yet. We all love Will obviously and you discussing his craft and appreciating just how far he has taken it and then you in real time found a new distortion which sounded fucking unreal. Well worth the 40 min mate 🙏🏼
omfg. when you did the cheek pull with the tongue thing i think thats one of the coolest sounds i have ever heard. i hope you sneak that into a Kardashev song
I really wish is vocal were more forward on the record just like in the vocal one take he does. I love the instrumental don't get me wrong but Will's technique is so "on point" I feel it needs to be hear clearer on the final mix!!
Coming back to this video months after I first watched it to give you a massive "thank you". I have no interest in ever being a singer and I'm only about a year into really discovering metal, but you've made 2+ hour long car rides listening to metal that much better. Instead of just listening, now I'm *singing* and analyzing. I'm a nerd about everything I do and I love watching someone dive as in-depth as possible into what they love, too. Thank you for helping me find my voice-- both literally and figuratively.
the channel and setup looks so professional now woah! been loving what you’ve been doing on this channel shortly after you started it and it makes me happy to see it thriving, doing well and have a fantastic community.
Thanks so much! Its been a long journey but we're slowly making it better. And all the kind words from folk like yourself DEFINITELY help me stay motivated!
amazing to hear, especially since I remember your channel in its very early stages. appreciate what you do and the positivity it brings this sort of realm in the music scene. much love
I am not vocalist, I just like to scream from time to time and because of you videos I started to experiment with my shitty screams and now I can make -some nice sounds - in my opinion of course. I know I will never sound like Will, Kyle or whoever you can think of but I can sound like myself. One of the thing that put Will in spotlight is because he can do some really unique screams. If you want to be like Will do the same - appreciate what you can do and do it, experiment, make your own stuff.
I really enjoy seeing people react to this that aren't used to this kind of music. But this, I really really appreciate your ability to not only break down the mechanics behind what Will does, but actually have the skills and confidence to bust out some fantastic vocals of your own and seemingly effortlessly sing along and play around with what you hear. Subscribed!
And I only just noticed all the D&D stuff in the background! I can only imagine the monster noises you could easily do. I wasn't interested in harsh vocals as a singer, but as a DM, now I think about it..
Maybe one day you could get a hold of Will and do a interview with him talking about vocals to get his prospective on his one takes. And you are right brother about the one takes I think it is satisfying to him to show that you can do things near his level and it is possible. And everyone's anatomy of the face structure and vocals. Keep up the amazing work Mark
Seriously one of the most informative channels on how metal singers produce these awesome sounds. Keep up the great content! Hope you get Will on the channel for a guest! I have a masters in music as a trumpet player. I’ve always been fascinated with metal music.
Such a strong message at the beginning!!! I am new to metal vocals, always wanted to do it as I am guitarist. I struggled to begin with because I was trying to sound like someone and not embrace my own voice. Its your own unique instrument.
Thanks for doing a break down of the vocals! Really interesting stuff! Really appreciate Will and his journey, never heard of Lorna Shore till now and am just loving it. Another band that is super small still is As Lion and Lambs with their vocalists Matt who uses some these techniques and have their own sound. Check ‘‘em out.
I like that inspirational talk. But Will has to wanna flex what he can do. but in a sense that he knows we love that. It's a good flex. He's giving us what we want. But he's not taking that for granted. He even said, THAT PART was a total accident and unplanned. He just did a thing he thought would sound cool. He's truly an inspiration to those who seek it. Those who see it as just a flex, or can't be as good, aren't trying.
I love you and your content, you're a wonderful person and you take so much care with your videos it's really obvious how hard you try and it really shows, keep on being you🖤🖤
Will Ramos is the Tim Henson of metal vocals. So fucking crazy. So technical. It literally doesn’t get any better. Please for the love of god don’t judge yourself based on this guy, especially when you’re first starting out.
Haha oh man, this would take me some time. Kardashev has gotten far les acrobatic over the years, much more melodic now. I'd have to know the rust off of my speed-vocals and transitions for sure.
You have to get Will on your channel. He's been on the other big vocal channels I watch. Saw him and the band at a restaurant in Lancaster, PA last week at their last show before they head to Europe. Will is cool as fuck and down to earth.
Mark, the explanation of variation from voice to voice and finding inspiration vs limitation was huge. Thank you for reinforcing that message. happy holidays brother
Im a classical singer just finding all of this fascinating and it has me wondering how I can somehow incorporate these techniques into classical music. For instance, in Shubert’s “Erlkönig” I’ve always thought it would be cool to use harsh vocals when the Erlking reveals his true intentions in the song/poem. And actually, metal band Hope Lies Within did something like this in their arrangement/cover of Erlking/Erlkönig (they recorded both in English and German). Thank you for all of the insight, Mark!
My pleasure, dude! And that would be really dope. If ever you want to learn this style of vocals, I've taught all kinds - so drop me an email on kardavox1010@gmail.com to learn more about my student offerings!
With my high tunnels, I have to poke my tongue into my bottom lip instead of against the back of my teeth, because for some reason putting my tongue against my teeth and arching it up hits my gag reflex Also if you’ve never tried it, take a blegh, and start out with a tunnel on it and slide out of it as the blegh goes on, makes it sound disgusting in the best way
I’m no vocalist, by any means.. always wanted to learn, but I feel like I’m too old lol but I enjoy watching your videos, although I don’t really know and understand what you’re speaking about, I feel like I learn something each and everytime. Keep on keeping on man. 🤘🏻
There's no such thing as being too old dude! I've had students in their fifties in my classroom with no prior experience. If you want to learn - you can!
Prior to listening to To the Hellfire a few times, watching a few reactions, the release of the Title Track -which I immediately fell in love with-, and the interview charismatic voice did with Will... I never really cared to listen to deathcore... like... at all. I think the thing that sets (at least currently) lorna shore from the rest, is the insane amount of melody going on. I LOVE when bands use orchestral additions. Classical and metal are the 2 best combinations, and the way that they have mixed it is a perfect unison. Also Will has a LOT of annunciation in his screams, which is something I really appreciate Also I have to say. I've always wanted to be able to scream. Circa 2002 when my cousin showed me In Flames Clayman for the first time. Will, like Anders, has made it so I wish I could do them... and have his range
That's cool man! It's definitely possible for anyone to learn to scream - I'd be happy to teach you if you want to learn - just drop me an email at kardavox1010@gmail.com to learn more!
For this style of reaction I don't think it matters if you've seen or heard it before. Since you're more into breaking down what's going on rather than just pulling some faces because you got surprised or something haha
You ever teach classes?! I used to be a vocalist in a small touring band, and I want to get back into it. Show my kids it’s never to late. Well, should’ve waited about 30 seconds before commenting this. 😂🤘🏻🤘🏻
Absolutely amazing point at the beginning, nobody should be trying to sound like someone else, the difference in the genres and vocals is what makes metal and actually all kind of music beautiful.
Always love your insight mark. I am truly loving all the upgrades and appearances Kardavox Academy has gotten. TH-cam brought you to me on the 1st infant annihilator breakdown, maybe your second video? Ive been hooked from the get go!! All of this is truly deserved and earned from ur grind! 👏🤘🏻🤘🏻 I've gained so much from these videos myself; skill, entertainment, appreciation. Top tier!!!! I hope it never ends lmao🔥🔥🔥🧡🧡🧡
Dude! I've just found a nasal space! I didn't think existed, but it really is there! And it's effortless and repeatable. WTF! On in breath of all things! Now all I have to do is to repeat it on outbreath!
Haha hell yeah! I actually went to school pursuing a speech therapy degree. I got sick and had to quit the program unfortunately, but I got about halfway through my serior year. I pretty much base all of my teaching on what I learned in my speech / audiology courses.
just started watchin your videos last night and I really dig em ! I'm a bassist mainly and do some singing/vokills, but I enjoy someone who can teach with a good dose of humor. you're very detail oriented and that's huge when it comes to any Instrument. I'd suggest checking out a live Mayhem song, when they still had Maniac with them. Basically between 97' and 2004. That being said, that voice that your wife absolutely hates, sounds like some raging uber-nerd lmao. Especially when you reacted to Dimmu Borgir's "Progenies of the great apocalypse". When you read out some of the lyrics towards the end of the video, in that voice, I totally lost it 😂. Love it, dude ! Cheers from Montreal 🤘
Im not really into these kinda vocals BUT i do appreciate them much more then i did when i first heard them. I must say this guy is the best ive ever heard .
to add to the comment from the beginning alex terrible trained and worked on the ulra clear low from him for 12 years befor he was happy with it. Will stated in his interview that he s still learning and improving and that dickie allen was a big inspiration for him and even back then people said that dickies screams were fake or heavelly edited
Hey man! Check out his new one take cover of Cursed to Die. It just dropped! He is holding his mic and allowing you to see more of how he uses his toung placement. And the shapes of his mouth is more visible! Very cool to see!
I feel like you really should get down to making an online course for metal vocals as a sort of introduction to getting started, explaining different techniques and theoretical aspects etc. I'd buy that in a heartbeat.
The thing that I've noticed with Will's vocal technique is how relaxed he is when screaming and it's cool to see how calm and collected he is, and in his interview with Elizabeth from the Charismatic Voice it was cool to see how he described his vocal technique and how his inspiration came from opera singers
and to make a point about your comment you made it to beginning of the video about people saying they will never be good enough as will Ramos, the late great the late great Dickie Allen and will Ramos have some amazing similarities in certain vocal pitches.
We have a NEW GOAL! We have got BIG plans in 2022, and if you want to see us do an exciting new video series that will take an even deeper dive on vocals and vocalists, then join us on Patreon and help make this a reality! Joining also allows you to access our community where you can take part in games, events, hangouts, karaoke, and much more with Mark, Alex, and from time to time - special guests! On top of all that, you can even win free vocal evaluations and lessons with Mark! www.patreon.com/kardavoxacademy
If you want to see more facial expressions, watch Trevor Teichert. He is amazing.
@@kevinkleinsasser9387 Trevor's great, he has worked hard and come a very long way!
My only goal for 2022 is to write and record a song that’s good enough to make it on here (I think I said that already, not that I’m that good yet lol)
hey man, got a video for you to check out, Behind Her Savage Killing - Demolisher (Official Music Video). vocalist slaps hard and doesnt get enough recognition.
This is why Mark is the greatest screaming coach on the platform, he explains the science behind every technique. Not only that, but he encourages everyone to be their own type of vocalist. Thank you Mark.
Wouldn't be cool if Mark start a metalcore or deathcore band??
I wonder what it sounds like Mark screaming broooo
@@mynameislove1704 Have you never checked out his bands?
@@alexst3232 No I haven't.
What bands is he?
@@mynameislove1704 He says it at the beginning of every single video lol... Kardashev is his man, but hes been in Neverbreath and Viraemia
Thanks so much for the kind words, dude. Really appreciate it!
Will would be an awesome guest if you ever get a chance to have him on but definitely hyped to see this
Will was great when he was on The Charismatic voices' channel.
@@Ineluki_Myonrashi meh
@bane of reality for real
We'd love to have Will come on - maybe next year!
Will who?
Justin from Tallah said it perfectly "Don't base your chapter 1 to their chapter 10." Nuff said
Absolutely - something Justin and I agree on 100%!
So chapter 11 is ok then? 🤔
@@BirdOfHermes83LMAO
Yes, love the comment on how “you will not sound like Will Ramos.” Know what else? Will Ramos will not sound like YOU. 🤘🏻
very very well said, everyone’s voice is different. You are your own instrument when it comes to metal vocals, be you, not someone else!
Absolutely!
13:29 "The song does have a bit of an ebb and flow to it"
No Mark, that's To The Hellfire
I see what you did there 👀
Glad to know I'm not the only one who caught it.
I said the same exact thing 😂
Ok ok ok but Mark my dude that whole segment of you playing around with placement around 36:40 is a) fucking disgusting in the best way possible and b) so wholesome to just watch you geek out and find new sounds!
Loved the vid, analysis, pep talk, the whole nine yards was on point, as always ❤️
Haha yeah I got a bit carried away, it was fun as hell! And thanks for the kind words, im so glad you dig the video!
Can we take a moment to appreciate Will Ramos fashion style? Like damn that hair with them ear rings and black long sleeve is just perfect
He's definitely a sharply dressed dude!
This video is a prime example of how you should not be straining or putting in a tonne of effort when screaming. Will acts so calm and relaxed in this video!
But then you see Travis Ryan of Cattle Decap and he's super animated and all over the place, contorting his face and whatnot. You can still have impeccable technique but look like you're actually into it.
They lip sync all this shit lol
@@Hammerponcho Will 100% doesn’t lip sync
@@joshforeman1648 nah he post produces the shit out of his covers and vocal play throughs. It would be preferred with no mic and raw vocals. You can tell he’s lip syncing
@@plaguedoctor5657 eq'ing your vocals doesn't make it lip synced lol
I know a lot of people love Will's highs... but I'm in fucking love with his lows.... like shiiiiiiiit
36:42 is every single vocalist figuring out a new technique and freaking out about it 😂🔥
Haha, I've been doing the cheek pull thing in my own music for several years now, but glad you liked it!
@@KardavoxAcademy haha I more meant your excitement at discovering a new tongue position and combo but it sounded nasty as hell 🙌🏼
Will is so big right now he could come out with a Christmas album and it would be bangers
Dude that sound at 36:40 blew my mind
Thanks bro!
I'm not trying to sound exactly like Will. I just want to be at the level of synchronicity with my body where I am as relaxed while belting out these screams as Will. Dude seems like he's at a tea party in his head while he's screaming. It's insane.
This was worth the wait! I'd love to see you talking with Will some time, I think he'd be very down for it
PLS
That would be dope - maybe next year!
Love the longer more technical videos. Would be really interested in seeing technique comparison videos between vocalists, showing how different vocalists approach similar sounds to get their unique versions of x or t technique, with your technical examination explaining through it.
Thanks for watching - I'll have a think about how I would go about doing that!
I really love your videos... The lesson of the first 8 minutes of this video is the most important of your entire channel. Thanks for teach us..
I'm glad it was helpful, thanks for watching!
Loved the soapbox sermon. Your videos and presentation style make me feel like I'm listening to a TedTalks podcast on metal vocals with some fantastic critique, coaching, and banter. Your videos are awesome, Mark!
Your explanations have really helped improve my car karaoke
Hell yeah!
So hyped for this one
It was super fun to make! Hope ya dig it :)
I wish there were more one take videos that were closer to the live performance without layers and heavy mixing. As someone who has gotten absolutely addicted to learning new techniques these live one takes are a god damn gold mine for getting my fix.
@GretchTheZ I agree for the most part. Especially I like the one-takes for the Lorna Shore stuff far better than the album version. Album version sounds like the vocals are often drowning into the instrumentals imo.
On that opening: One of the most amazing things is when you hear a massive crowd of people singing and chanting along with the music they are experiencing live. It's an incredibly powerful thing to hear so many individual voices at different levels, timbres, pitches, in key, out of key, just letting it all come out. Man, that'd suck if they all sounded identical, because even robots don't sound alike. Your individual voice is unique and something you should be proud of. Although some sound ever so close, they never sound identical, it's one of those perfect imperfections of humanity that I utterly adore.
(Fun fact: Robots don't actually all sound alike, even if they had the same voice, the speakers emitting the sound would all be ever so slightly different, because there is no such thing as a perfect speaker. It's a strangely endearing concept, we as perfectly imperfect creatures create machines so that they may do what we cannot perfectly, and as a result can never achieve actual perfection. That's a mouthful.)
I appreciate the first part of your video. Very important statement. It applies to all aspects of your life.
Thanks Rob!
That cheek pull thing was badass. I've seen you do it in other videos but it sounded super awesome in this one.
Haha thanks. Its been a backpocket technique of mine for a while, though im probably not the first to do it. I've been trying to get more vocalists to give it a shot, hopefully it catches on!
I’m with you on the “pray to imitation gods” being one of the most impressive parts. It’s so impactful, even more so in this version. This whole song has a cosmic crazy sort of beauty to it, the lyrics, the symphonic parts, that insane guitar solo, the epic chorus it’s all just so perfect.
The cheek thing! Lorna shore's Death Portrait has that in the end, I think. It's amazing 🤘
I had to comment because I was one of those guys who found the "advanced stuff" easy, but the "simple" stuff extremely hard. I found the mashy lows, screeching highs, and crackle mids really easy. It was the roaring, volumous mids that most people default to that I found most difficult. Great takes@
Everyone is different - thanks for watching!
Travis Ryan from Cattle Decapitation was really the one that progressed these sorts of vocal techniques. Listening to him talk about it is fascinating. The guy deserves way more credit.
Agreed!
You need to try and get Austin Dickey on for a reaction to one of his For The Likes of You songs!
Please lmao
I just saw an interview with Will Ramos by Elisabeth from the charismatic voice and Will seemed like a genuine nice guy that wants to learn and offers advice to anyone who wants to learn new ways of singing.
thank you for the pep talk section in the first few minutes of the video, i'm still trying to figure out the basics of harsh vocals and will hear will's mids on the lorna ep and get super intimidated and basically feel like i'm hitting a wall but you're helping remind me that i'll get there, even if the end result isn't quite the same as what his are like
I'm glad someone was listening! Everyone has to start somewhere - never compare your Chapter 2 to someone else's Chapter 20. Keep up the great work dude, and if you ever need help, drop me an email at kardavox1010@gmail.com to learn more about my student offerings!
Also wills interview on the charismatic voice was amazing
Thanks again for a great vid tangents are some of the most fun Part, and Will Ramos is amazing to say the least. He is so calm and obviously enjoying himself as he performs. Love the one take vids he has been putting out, and glad you have been covering them, because you can see he really can make that whole song asthma and all. I hope he has as long a career as he wants. Also he did a Tea time with The Charismatic Voice and agreed to a camera down his throat so that will hopefully be something shared and will be amazing. For The science of vocals.
Yes, that should be a good time for everyone!
Ooooo that dirty dirty noise at 36:40! Love it. Always love a good pep talk coach, it's so great seeing how much you care about people being confident in themselves.
Self-confidence is super important - thanks for watching, believe in yourself!
I cannot believe i just learned that you're the vocalist of Kardashev. I cannot stop listening to Somnus, and when I googled your band it says you guys are from Tempe! Right in my backyard
Woah, well thanks for checking out the music dude!
Bro this vid is easily the best one yet. We all love Will obviously and you discussing his craft and appreciating just how far he has taken it and then you in real time found a new distortion which sounded fucking unreal. Well worth the 40 min mate 🙏🏼
Thanks for watching, dude!
What I like about harsh vocals is the aggressive, rebellious, fearless, and yet saddening feeling it portrays.
That's a good way of putting it!
omfg. when you did the cheek pull with the tongue thing i think thats one of the coolest sounds i have ever heard. i hope you sneak that into a Kardashev song
Yes!! First of the big vocal coach reaction/reviews! Suuuuper pumped to hear your thoughts today sir. Thank you for spending the time on this 🙂
Thanks for spending time watching, dude!
I really wish is vocal were more forward on the record just like in the vocal one take he does. I love the instrumental don't get me wrong but Will's technique is so "on point" I feel it needs to be hear clearer on the final mix!!
Nice D&D books and beholder mini 👌. Also very nice break down of the video! You never disappoint, my friend.
Thank you, friend!
Coming back to this video months after I first watched it to give you a massive "thank you". I have no interest in ever being a singer and I'm only about a year into really discovering metal, but you've made 2+ hour long car rides listening to metal that much better. Instead of just listening, now I'm *singing* and analyzing. I'm a nerd about everything I do and I love watching someone dive as in-depth as possible into what they love, too. Thank you for helping me find my voice-- both literally and figuratively.
the channel and setup looks so professional now woah! been loving what you’ve been doing on this channel shortly after you started it and it makes me happy to see it thriving, doing well and have a fantastic community.
Thanks so much! Its been a long journey but we're slowly making it better. And all the kind words from folk like yourself DEFINITELY help me stay motivated!
amazing to hear, especially since I remember your channel in its very early stages. appreciate what you do and the positivity it brings this sort of realm in the music scene. much love
I’m anticipating this more than Christmas
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I am not vocalist, I just like to scream from time to time and because of you videos I started to experiment with my shitty screams and now I can make -some nice sounds - in my opinion of course. I know I will never sound like Will, Kyle or whoever you can think of but I can sound like myself. One of the thing that put Will in spotlight is because he can do some really unique screams. If you want to be like Will do the same - appreciate what you can do and do it, experiment, make your own stuff.
You're literally the only TH-cam channel I actually check out regularly, love your stuff man. Kardashev is awesome, Snow-Sleep is my jam
I really enjoy seeing people react to this that aren't used to this kind of music. But this, I really really appreciate your ability to not only break down the mechanics behind what Will does, but actually have the skills and confidence to bust out some fantastic vocals of your own and seemingly effortlessly sing along and play around with what you hear. Subscribed!
And I only just noticed all the D&D stuff in the background! I can only imagine the monster noises you could easily do. I wasn't interested in harsh vocals as a singer, but as a DM, now I think about it..
I was thinking today about you doing this! Definitely the best track from the EP so stoked!
Hope you enjoyed the video dude!
@@KardavoxAcademy Always do! Plenty of great info!
Learned doing fry vocals with the "over the pencil" technique. Helps a lot 👍
This was absolute vocal analysis insanity. Thank you for being for free on youtube mark
38:19 You know what they say, beauty is in the eye of the Beholder.
Alright, just for that you get advantage and +5 on your next charisma roll
Absolutely love your style of videos. I love that you pause and talk techniques so much. Especially when it comes to Will, he’s a goddamn animal.
Maybe one day you could get a hold of Will and do a interview with him talking about vocals to get his prospective on his one takes. And you are right brother about the one takes I think it is satisfying to him to show that you can do things near his level and it is possible. And everyone's anatomy of the face structure and vocals. Keep up the amazing work Mark
Thanks for watching, dude, that would be fun!
36:39 i think about this a lot it's so wholesome
Seriously one of the most informative channels on how metal singers produce these awesome sounds. Keep up the great content! Hope you get Will on the channel for a guest! I have a masters in music as a trumpet player. I’ve always been fascinated with metal music.
That sounds awesome, Nicholas, and I'd love to have Will on!
Such a strong message at the beginning!!! I am new to metal vocals, always wanted to do it as I am guitarist. I struggled to begin with because I was trying to sound like someone and not embrace my own voice. Its your own unique instrument.
Exactly, I'm glad it sunk in - thanks for watching!
Thanks for doing a break down of the vocals! Really interesting stuff! Really appreciate Will and his journey, never heard of Lorna Shore till now and am just loving it. Another band that is super small still is As Lion and Lambs with their vocalists Matt who uses some these techniques and have their own sound. Check ‘‘em out.
I like that inspirational talk. But Will has to wanna flex what he can do. but in a sense that he knows we love that. It's a good flex. He's giving us what we want. But he's not taking that for granted. He even said, THAT PART was a total accident and unplanned. He just did a thing he thought would sound cool. He's truly an inspiration to those who seek it. Those who see it as just a flex, or can't be as good, aren't trying.
I love you and your content, you're a wonderful person and you take so much care with your videos it's really obvious how hard you try and it really shows, keep on being you🖤🖤
Thank you so much for the kind words dude!
Will Ramos is the Tim Henson of metal vocals. So fucking crazy. So technical. It literally doesn’t get any better. Please for the love of god don’t judge yourself based on this guy, especially when you’re first starting out.
I'm not a vocalist, but I'm a music enthusiast and I have found this video fascinating!
Thanks for watching, Dee!
Excited to see your take on this godly 1 take.
Haha oh man, this would take me some time. Kardashev has gotten far les acrobatic over the years, much more melodic now. I'd have to know the rust off of my speed-vocals and transitions for sure.
@@KardavoxAcademy oh I just meant I was excited to see your thoughts on this. But shoot for the stars my man! Haha
Dude, that cheek-pull side tongue tone was gold.
Hell yeah, thanks man!
Like an amazing drummer would say, oh yuuuur
LOVE your experimental snarl growls!!! implement those on future tracks
Not sure how suited it is to Kardashev's music, but maybe if I do some covers!
Your detailed knowledge and explanation of how these harsh vocals are made is extremely helpful mahn. Thank you for douing what you dou.
My pleasure! Glad it was helpful!
Finally!!! :D This is the video were all waiting for!
You have to get Will on your channel. He's been on the other big vocal channels I watch. Saw him and the band at a restaurant in Lancaster, PA last week at their last show before they head to Europe. Will is cool as fuck and down to earth.
We'd love to have him on!
Mark, the explanation of variation from voice to voice and finding inspiration vs limitation was huge. Thank you for reinforcing that message. happy holidays brother
My pleasure! That's what I'm here for! - Same to you bro!
What an awesome breakdown! So helpful
Yo Jackson, good to see you! Glad it was helpful!
one thing that I want for 2022 is to take lesson w/ you man!!!
Hell yeah man, drop me an email at kardavox1010@gmail.com and let's set something up!
Im a classical singer just finding all of this fascinating and it has me wondering how I can somehow incorporate these techniques into classical music. For instance, in Shubert’s “Erlkönig” I’ve always thought it would be cool to use harsh vocals when the Erlking reveals his true intentions in the song/poem. And actually, metal band Hope Lies Within did something like this in their arrangement/cover of Erlking/Erlkönig (they recorded both in English and German). Thank you for all of the insight, Mark!
My pleasure, dude! And that would be really dope. If ever you want to learn this style of vocals, I've taught all kinds - so drop me an email on kardavox1010@gmail.com to learn more about my student offerings!
Mark, You totally missed the little trip after the "flirty look"🤣🤣
With my high tunnels, I have to poke my tongue into my bottom lip instead of against the back of my teeth, because for some reason putting my tongue against my teeth and arching it up hits my gag reflex
Also if you’ve never tried it, take a blegh, and start out with a tunnel on it and slide out of it as the blegh goes on, makes it sound disgusting in the best way
27:05 My favorite moment. Like enjoying fine wine, or cuisine. Classy as hell!
I’m no vocalist, by any means.. always wanted to learn, but I feel like I’m too old lol but I enjoy watching your videos, although I don’t really know and understand what you’re speaking about, I feel like I learn something each and everytime. Keep on keeping on man. 🤘🏻
There's no such thing as being too old dude! I've had students in their fifties in my classroom with no prior experience. If you want to learn - you can!
Loved the Greg Doucette impression, what a strange place for such a unique way to do a veiled shoutout, siq
Prior to listening to To the Hellfire a few times, watching a few reactions, the release of the Title Track -which I immediately fell in love with-, and the interview charismatic voice did with Will... I never really cared to listen to deathcore... like... at all. I think the thing that sets (at least currently) lorna shore from the rest, is the insane amount of melody going on. I LOVE when bands use orchestral additions. Classical and metal are the 2 best combinations, and the way that they have mixed it is a perfect unison. Also Will has a LOT of annunciation in his screams, which is something I really appreciate
Also I have to say. I've always wanted to be able to scream. Circa 2002 when my cousin showed me In Flames Clayman for the first time. Will, like Anders, has made it so I wish I could do them... and have his range
That's cool man! It's definitely possible for anyone to learn to scream - I'd be happy to teach you if you want to learn - just drop me an email at kardavox1010@gmail.com to learn more!
Austin Archey is a machine on the kit ....Much like Will is on the vocals .
im waiting for a mf playthrough of any of the ep songs.
@@billykordecki6052 Ha You and me both !
I gotta mess around with that cheek pull tunnel throats. Sounds gnarly
Yo! I've been trying to get more people to do cheeky screams for YEARS. Do it!
For this style of reaction I don't think it matters if you've seen or heard it before. Since you're more into breaking down what's going on rather than just pulling some faces because you got surprised or something haha
Haha, for sure man!
You ever teach classes?! I used to be a vocalist in a small touring band, and I want to get back into it. Show my kids it’s never to late.
Well, should’ve waited about 30 seconds before commenting this. 😂🤘🏻🤘🏻
Hahaha yes indeed! Feel free to email me anytime and we can hash it out!
Much respect on the D&D books in the background. Ya glorious nerd!
Hell yeah!
Sweeeeeeet, another long video!
Thanks.
Hope everyone has a very Goober Christmas!!!
You bet! Thanks for watching!
Absolutely amazing point at the beginning, nobody should be trying to sound like someone else, the difference in the genres and vocals is what makes metal and actually all kind of music beautiful.
Always love your insight mark. I am truly loving all the upgrades and appearances Kardavox Academy has gotten. TH-cam brought you to me on the 1st infant annihilator breakdown, maybe your second video? Ive been hooked from the get go!! All of this is truly deserved and earned from ur grind! 👏🤘🏻🤘🏻 I've gained so much from these videos myself; skill, entertainment, appreciation. Top tier!!!! I hope it never ends lmao🔥🔥🔥🧡🧡🧡
That's so awesome to hear, Andrew - thanks for sticking with us!
Dude! I've just found a nasal space! I didn't think existed, but it really is there! And it's effortless and repeatable. WTF! On in breath of all things!
Now all I have to do is to repeat it on outbreath!
As a speech pathologist I LOVE your little tid bits of speech and hearing science you include 🤓
Haha hell yeah! I actually went to school pursuing a speech therapy degree. I got sick and had to quit the program unfortunately, but I got about halfway through my serior year. I pretty much base all of my teaching on what I learned in my speech / audiology courses.
just started watchin your videos last night and I really dig em ! I'm a bassist mainly and do some singing/vokills, but I enjoy someone who can teach with a good dose of humor. you're very detail oriented and that's huge when it comes to any Instrument. I'd suggest checking out a live Mayhem song, when they still had Maniac with them. Basically between 97' and 2004. That being said, that voice that your wife absolutely hates, sounds like some raging uber-nerd lmao. Especially when you reacted to Dimmu Borgir's "Progenies of the great apocalypse". When you read out some of the lyrics towards the end of the video, in that voice, I totally lost it 😂. Love it, dude ! Cheers from Montreal 🤘
Im not really into these kinda vocals BUT i do appreciate them much more then i did when i first heard them.
I must say this guy is the best ive ever heard .
to add to the comment from the beginning alex terrible trained and worked on the ulra clear low from him for 12 years befor he was happy with it. Will stated in his interview that he s still learning and improving and that dickie allen was a big inspiration for him and even back then people said that dickies screams were fake or heavelly edited
I always get so hyped then so disappointed seeing I have to wait another day or so until I can watch it. Should another great video though I'm sure
Really cool advice on your intro man. Always a fan of your content. Keep it up!
Thanks John, I appreciate the kind words!
Hey man! Check out his new one take cover of Cursed to Die. It just dropped! He is holding his mic and allowing you to see more of how he uses his toung placement. And the shapes of his mouth is more visible! Very cool to see!
I feel like you really should get down to making an online course for metal vocals as a sort of introduction to getting started, explaining different techniques and theoretical aspects etc. I'd buy that in a heartbeat.
Honestly, it's been on my mind for a long time, and I will get to it at some point - I just love teaching people in the classroom too much!
The thing that I've noticed with Will's vocal technique is how relaxed he is when screaming and it's cool to see how calm and collected he is, and in his interview with Elizabeth from the Charismatic Voice it was cool to see how he described his vocal technique and how his inspiration came from opera singers
and to make a point about your comment you made it to beginning of the video about people saying they will never be good enough as will Ramos, the late great the late great Dickie Allen and will Ramos have some amazing similarities in certain vocal pitches.
Can't wait to see them with angelmaker in May 🤘
That'll be a dope show!
I love the melodic outro. :)
Hell yeah!
Yes! Been waiting for you or charasmatic to do a one take
The wait is over - I hope it was worth it! :)