Interesting that none of the "special" versions of the T7 or the new TFT are available in the US. Here in the USA it is still a challenge to even get the "standard" Tenere :(
Call around.....I got mine in Feb. Had to travel 200 miles for it but they are out there if you are willing to search! Absolutely ZERO regrets! Great machine!
For me it will eventually be the extreme with the Quickshifter added separately. I really like the TFT display and the high mudguard, suspension is a really big plus as well compared to the standard.
I bought a Tenere 700 back in 2021, it was a nice bike, the engine is a peach. But, it wasn't perfect. I found it too top-heavy, and there were other issues which I never really liked, so I sold it after a year. My advice is to get a demo before you buy one, I couldn't because of lockdown. I know adventure bikes are very popular at the moment, but they're a big, heavy, tall, bike, so ask yourself, do you really need one if you're not going off-road. If not, a road biased bike might be the better option.
I was looking at the T 7 as a Fourth bike then I sat on one and realized how tall they are so I ended up buying another track bike lol. Always good content Bob.
I’d say the T7 is the value king. You get a lot of bike for the money. But There are higher performing bikes in the category now. But again, the higher performers are more expensive as well.
Thats the Smartest thing to do Dennis. But sometimes Yamaha doesn't do smart work. I'll keep my Super10 👍. Its almost paid off,, and eats Miles for fun.😋 Ride safe 🙏.
3 weeks after I purchased my triumph 900 rally I started to find T7's at the dealers. Still loving my triumph although the extreme sounds very interesting.
An Extreme, but with the standard mudguard - I'm lanky with hard trails out the door... But also in the UK so, Err I can't have one! Not entirely sure I know what goes on with Yamaha UK these days - no dealer within 50 miles of me now and then poor stock. They seem to have given up a bit. Ironically, I can buy a WR/YZ easily nearby, let alone BMW, KTM, Beta, Husqvarna, Gas Gas... Crazy. Also, nice though the T7 is, the price is madness, a total gouge. The standard model should get KYB and be fully loaded for the money.
910mm seat, are you serious?? Whats that a 36inch inside leg to flat foot the bike?? I'll take the explorer thanks. 🤣🤣 These guys are missing a trick without cruise control though I must say. I would much prefer the CF Moto 800MT Touring becuase I prefer the styling way more and its got a proper seat, plus cruise control. The Tenere's seat are for people with little bums or those who dont mind sitting on thin strips. lol Good review mate, keep it up!👍
Probably the tourer with a top box. Keep paniers in garage for long trips. Get in the way when filtering through traffic during the week. World Raid would have been good on interstate trips on Australian backroads. 32 litre tank on my R80GS was handy.
Firstly Bob. You absolutely nailed those model names!🤣 “Extreme…well for extreme! Explore…”! All over it mate!🤪 Between this & the Honda Transalp it’d be a win win either way. Good update & be even better with the hands on.👏🏼🇦🇺
What's the point of a road biased Explorer model when you can get a v-strom 650XT for less money that offers more comfort, stronger sub frame and more cargo load ?
At this point, I'd just like to see the first Tenere 700 in person! I've no idea why they seem to be so damn scarce. Dealers tell me they've had em on order since forever but Yamaha just doesn't deliver. All the while, showrooms packed with other bikes... Makes no sense!
That line of new machines are excellent, and personally I stay with de WR, pretty nice upgrades, dirt bike Enduro felling, and more riding time. A great test for the WR could be The Eye of the Sahara 😉👍
That's why I bought the standard Version last year 2022 model. Still has the original Tenere monochrome display without the TFT and smarthpone Bluetooth connectivity bullshit.
Nope. I need tubeless wheels. I need cruise control. I need adjustable suspension so I can optimize for on road, and off road use. I am closely watching the Taureg 660, but don't like the service intervals. No perfect bike for those who want or can only own one, and want to ride everywhere.
The extreme does seem great, looks great, great suspension and Id never need the extra large tank, but 910mm! you need to be over 6 foot to seriously consider this bike for off road..
For me the extreme, for the road riding I would get the upcoming KTM 890 SMT and a ' 23 Street Triple RS for a quick blast trough the mountains That would be my ideal 3 bike garage!
Outside of the TFT dash and arguably the fuel, the base T-7 can be kitted out personally to become any of these other variants. I say arguably fuel because while you can't increase the fuel tank, you can either add fuel packs or cans to your bike and keep pushing. I love the T-7 and as time goes, I'm learning to cope with the fact that the WR might not ever be introduced to the NA market.... It's all good. All I need is my base anyway.. 🥹
43 mm fork tubes are still wimpy. A meaningful suspension upgrade would have 48 mm tubes to reduce flex and stiction. KTM knows this and gives buyers the choice.
I would take the Extreme every day of the week as height (196cm) is not issue. Have Manufactures lost the ability to make panniers that fit slimly to the rear? Even though the videos did not show them for behind they look WIDE for such a slim bike (Explorer). The panniers should touch the rear guard and be slim enough not to be a sail. Throw overs are a better option anyway for off road.
No matter what they offer…it’s going to be in short supply…..that World Raid prototype would knock the socks off of KTM it made so much sense but not sure if we will every see any or enough. Just buy a regular T7 if you can find one and modify or yourself rather then look for an extreme edition.
What a difference a week can make. Don't care if Yamaha sends any to the US market. My new Tri-color White Africa Twin AS ES will be at the local Honda Motorsport dealer in mid-April.😂 Have a speed shifter ready to install upon delivery. For clarity, I'm an ex-Yamaha XT600 owner. Thanks Yamaha, well done.🤪
i'm wondering HOW TALL will be it now? with only 200mm of travel it was as high as a 890R with 240mm of travel, now that this bike is much higher, who is going to be capable of riding it? +190cm guys only?
Who will need these bikes? If it's your only bike I think it's like buying a Jeep Rubicon for your daily family driver. These are definitely a second or 3rd bike for big boys that have big boy riding areas near their big boy homes. If you live in an apartment in the city and have one bike, these are not even in the picture.
Wish Yamaha wòuld make the t7 Lighter Lower and Less espensive ,keep the motor though.Gotta be able to pick it up in the mud by my self . Hate these TFT displays . I've had to repl 3 tablets and 2 phones in the last 7years and their just in the house , gimme an old school speedo and idiot lites AND TUBLESS TIRES ! Might have to stick with my 2003 KLR650
7:43 What the hell is the point of a quickshifter on a bike like this? If getting up the road as fast as possible is so important to you, and shaving every fraction of a second off acceleration, maybe you should get a sports bike. I just don't see the logic of it. A maker like Yamaha really should know better.
@Kattrap Nonsense! I've had a Tracer 700 for almost 3 years. How long have you had a CP2 engined bike? I came to it after about 7-8 years on a Bandit 1200, as well as numerous other bikes in 40 years of riding. Even after the Bandit, I don't find the Tracer lacking in performance, especially in the low-mid range, and I've done thousands of miles on it, on all kinds of roads (mainly mountainous/hilly ones, as I live in Wales). And, in line with what I said in my initial reply, if it's top end performance you're after, what the hell are you buying a 689cc twin for? No twin cylinder bike of this size is going to have high top-end power. As regards its “ limited low rev high torque powerband requires a bit more shifting than other engines”, that makes no sense, whatsoever! You just contradicted yourself; why do you need to shift more, to keep it in its “low rev high torque powerband”? In the low to mid range, this engine excels...for its size, it's a very torquey engine so, by definition, you don't need to shift much! It has 50ft/lbs; a Bandit 1200 has 67, and is over 20 kilos heavier, so that shows just how good the CP2 is. You really need to think out what you say, before publishing it.
To what extent?? If you are changing your clutch and/or chain & sprockets so often, that you feel a need to install a device to reduce that frequency, I'd say you probably need to take a good look at how you change gears...as well as your maintenance! In 40 years of riding all sorts of bikes, I've not once changed anything related to the transmission, and thought "Shit, that didn't last long!". Come on, get real!! 🤣
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Update: this bike will be available for the UK in 2024, with bikes expected in March and price TBC.
Interesting that none of the "special" versions of the T7 or the new TFT are available in the US. Here in the USA it is still a challenge to even get the "standard" Tenere :(
Understated comment. I’d love to see some increased availability in the US on any version of this moto.
Exactly why I caved in and purchased my used 012 Super10 (low mileage). Although its a big heavy truck, I really enjoy it. 😉👍
Call around.....I got mine in Feb. Had to travel 200 miles for it but they are out there if you are willing to search! Absolutely ZERO regrets! Great machine!
I’ve given up on a T7 for the time being. Waiting on the market to drop out, which it will. Just look at the new Truck/SUV market right now…
Agree!! Why not allow us to build one on their website & delivered to your dealership? Come on Yamaha!!
For me it will eventually be the extreme with the Quickshifter added separately. I really like the TFT display and the high mudguard, suspension is a really big plus as well compared to the standard.
I wish Yamaha would come up with the “bring enough for the whole class” edition before branching off.
I bought a Tenere 700 back in 2021, it was a nice bike, the engine is a peach. But, it wasn't perfect. I found it too top-heavy, and there were other issues which I never really liked, so I sold it after a year. My advice is to get a demo before you buy one, I couldn't because of lockdown. I know adventure bikes are very popular at the moment, but they're a big, heavy, tall, bike, so ask yourself, do you really need one if you're not going off-road. If not, a road biased bike might be the better option.
Demo…😂
Himalayan is an option
Extreme for me as I’m up for the 910mm seat height. Hoping it will come to the UK.
I was looking at the T 7 as a Fourth bike then I sat on one and realized how tall they are so I ended up buying another track bike lol. Always good content Bob.
Short people problems...
@@niceguyrides I take heart in that I’ll always be faster than some tall bugger who weighs another 6 stone but puts carbon bit on their bike ;)
@@paulred158 For sure! Or get knocked off your bike by a low hanging branch.
And still after 4 years the Tenere700 is still king of the middleweight adv's
The 890r is the king and the desert x is the queen , the ktm 790 will run circles around the T7, only reason T7 is popular is because its cheap lol
I’d say the T7 is the value king. You get a lot of bike for the money. But There are higher performing bikes in the category now. But again, the higher performers are more expensive as well.
people pretending tuareg 660 doesnt exist
@@mmaaddict78 tuareg 660 is cheaper and better
@@Rust_valley_adventures ktm will only ever be king of warrenty claims and maintenance work.
The gold standard in reporting, only a few are at this level.( Scott at "nothing to prove") Informative and concise, Cheers.
How bout just building more copies of the basic one so we can actually buy one at MSRP??
Thats the Smartest thing to do Dennis. But sometimes Yamaha doesn't do smart work.
I'll keep my Super10 👍.
Its almost paid off,,
and eats Miles for fun.😋
Ride safe 🙏.
@Gabriel Szekeres nobody cares about your lame super10
I would pick the Aprilia, cruse control.
I'm a Honda guy but that T7 extreme win my heart
Possible you could include the measurement specs in INCHES as well? Especially seat height. Thank you for a superb presentation.
I just want the better suspension.
Beside that the base model is more enough
3 weeks after I purchased my triumph 900 rally I started to find T7's at the dealers. Still loving my triumph although the extreme sounds very interesting.
An Extreme, but with the standard mudguard - I'm lanky with hard trails out the door... But also in the UK so, Err I can't have one! Not entirely sure I know what goes on with Yamaha UK these days - no dealer within 50 miles of me now and then poor stock. They seem to have given up a bit. Ironically, I can buy a WR/YZ easily nearby, let alone BMW, KTM, Beta, Husqvarna, Gas Gas... Crazy. Also, nice though the T7 is, the price is madness, a total gouge. The standard model should get KYB and be fully loaded for the money.
910mm seat, are you serious??
Whats that a 36inch inside leg to flat foot the bike??
I'll take the explorer thanks. 🤣🤣
These guys are missing a trick without cruise control though I must say. I would much prefer the CF Moto 800MT Touring becuase I prefer the styling way more and its got a proper seat, plus cruise control. The Tenere's seat are for people with little bums or those who dont mind sitting on thin strips. lol
Good review mate, keep it up!👍
Probably the tourer with a top box. Keep paniers in garage for long trips. Get in the way when filtering through traffic during the week.
World Raid would have been good on interstate trips on Australian backroads. 32 litre tank on my R80GS was handy.
Firstly Bob. You absolutely nailed those model names!🤣 “Extreme…well for extreme! Explore…”! All over it mate!🤪 Between this & the Honda Transalp it’d be a win win either way. Good update & be even better with the hands on.👏🏼🇦🇺
I really wish I lived somewhere to really put a bike like this through its paces. Open ranges are slowly fading away sadly.
What's the point of a road biased Explorer model when you can get a v-strom 650XT for less money that offers more comfort, stronger sub frame and more cargo load ?
I think Yam have done their homework for these variations.
The explore version with a raid fuel tank, is the one I was dreaming of.
Same!!
At this point, I'd just like to see the first Tenere 700 in person! I've no idea why they seem to be so damn scarce. Dealers tell me they've had em on order since forever but Yamaha just doesn't deliver. All the while, showrooms packed with other bikes... Makes no sense!
Where the hell do you live? The end off the world?
Over the last 3 years, I've stopped maybe 20 times at 5 or 6 different Yamaha shops in North Florida and I've yet to see any T700's
That line of new machines are excellent, and personally I stay with de WR, pretty nice upgrades, dirt bike Enduro felling, and more riding time. A great test for the WR could be The Eye of the Sahara 😉👍
Eventually you come to conclusion that the standard T7 is everything you really need
With an acro....
That's why I bought the standard Version last year 2022 model. Still has the original Tenere monochrome display without the TFT and smarthpone Bluetooth connectivity bullshit.
I agree but also disagree. We need the World Raid
Nope. I need tubeless wheels. I need cruise control. I need adjustable suspension so I can optimize for on road, and off road use.
I am closely watching the Taureg 660, but don't like the service intervals.
No perfect bike for those who want or can only own one, and want to ride everywhere.
@@Dave-sw2dm Dave, the T7 wouldn't want you to own it anyways. Too pure of a bike for someone like yourself.
The extreme does seem great, looks great, great suspension and Id never need the extra large tank, but 910mm! you need to be over 6 foot to seriously consider this bike for off road..
For me the extreme, for the road riding I would get the upcoming KTM 890 SMT and a ' 23 Street Triple RS for a quick blast trough the mountains That would be my ideal 3 bike garage!
Outside of the TFT dash and arguably the fuel, the base T-7 can be kitted out personally to become any of these other variants. I say arguably fuel because while you can't increase the fuel tank, you can either add fuel packs or cans to your bike and keep pushing. I love the T-7 and as time goes, I'm learning to cope with the fact that the WR might not ever be introduced to the NA market.... It's all good. All I need is my base anyway.. 🥹
Acerbis do a 22 liter tank for around £330.
Another version we can’t get in the US! Bummer. We can hardly get the old version in stock, anywhere. So strange.
Have yet to see a single T700 in a dealership...
If the t7 gets cruise control, ill buy one
Extreme edition looks excellent!
Great video , i'm going for the explore edition . Nice comfort ! I now ride a mt model of yamaha and its not great as a daily driver
Excellent Video MOTOBOB. An Extreme with a simple electronic cruise control in the USA please.
Nice but not available in the US
The basic bike with tubeless rims would be awesome.
Maybe the prices have changed? At least here in Germany the standard T7 is 11374 € and it goes up to 13374 € for the World Raid version
If they brought the Explore to Canada, I think I'd have a For Sale sign on my V-strom pretty quick.
also, i wonder whether the Explore edition has the same 15 T sprocket as other T7s? 16T is more on road long distance friendly
Extreme aaaaaaall day baby!!!!
43 mm fork tubes are still wimpy. A meaningful suspension upgrade would have 48 mm tubes to reduce flex and stiction. KTM knows this and gives buyers the choice.
Or 45 at a minimum.
Am i the only one that just wants the base model?
My t7 is a full on race bike built above the level of any of the stock versions so I’ll stick with it. 😜
Want the upgraded suspension for sure
The world raid is priced at 14,800 in ireland . I think i will look at an Africa twin adventure sport
I would take the Extreme every day of the week as height (196cm) is not issue. Have Manufactures lost the ability to make panniers that fit slimly to the rear? Even though the videos did not show them for behind they look WIDE for such a slim bike (Explorer). The panniers should touch the rear guard and be slim enough not to be a sail. Throw overs are a better option anyway for off road.
Ok Yamaha you have my attention
Wish we had the extreme in the USA
I picked up a tuareg as there is simply no T7s for sale around me
Why don't they offer the explorer mode in the USA? Tenere's are almost impossible to find anywhere!!!
I'm happy with the standard version, I wouldn't want a higher seat height.
My standard '22 T7 is on the limit seat height wise for me. So it would have to be the Explorer version. Maybe in a couple of years time.
The standard T7 with custom suspension is the ticket. The WR isn't worth it and the EX - again - there's better suspension options on the aftermarket.
O my sweet darling tenere 😍
did i miss the no of cylinders and crank details?
Same as it was, 2 cilinder, 270 degree crank, nothing changed.
Aprilia Tuareg 660 beats T7 in every way. More hp, lower seat, better ground clearance (stock model), longer travel suspension, full electronics with adjustable traction control. Cruise.
I would just like the opportunity to buy the standard tenere here in the US for less than 13k
I couldn't even find a T7 here in Texas.
Have a new Africa Twin AS ES on the way. 😂
@@jamescampbell4334 FR bro the state of the motorcycle market rn is a joke
No matter what they offer…it’s going to be in short supply…..that World Raid prototype would knock the socks off of KTM it made so much sense but not sure if we will every see any or enough. Just buy a regular T7 if you can find one and modify or yourself rather then look for an extreme edition.
A world raid costs 21.000,- euro's where I live just because its so rare
I still haven’t even seen a standard T7 in the US. I’m about to be done with Yamaha.
just missing the cruise control, for long distances it makes all the diference.
Would be the explore version for me
I’d go with the Ducati desert x
How about providing some to the US market.
What a difference a week can make.
Don't care if Yamaha sends any to the US market.
My new Tri-color White Africa Twin AS ES will be at the local Honda Motorsport dealer in mid-April.😂 Have a speed shifter ready to install upon delivery.
For clarity, I'm an ex-Yamaha XT600 owner.
Thanks Yamaha, well done.🤪
Please align the green doors (?) in your studio. TIA! XD
I guess the T7 is the only non Honda model on my shortlist to replace my VFR1200X one day ...
Haha
Still no tubless tires... 😕
So the T7 that you still can't buy and is on backorder for 3 years. Yea can't wait
for me there is something wrong with the design of the t7, the best look is the world raid with a high level fender
i'm wondering HOW TALL will be it now? with only 200mm of travel it was as high as a 890R with 240mm of travel, now that this bike is much higher, who is going to be capable of riding it? +190cm guys only?
Agreed, it's getting kind of insane. The T7 Extreme has a seat height of 910mm!!!
They need to give it more HP put a CP3 in there
Cuando llegara america
Why didn't they add the WR tank to the explorer edition!
Apparently, the supplier that produces the World Raid tanks is having a hard time getting the material needed to mold them.
f'ing love my Tenere
Why do they create all these special editions when they can’t even update/ bring the existing editions to North America?
Good job Yamaha!
I don’t understand why they don’t sell these in USA, so many people want this bike.
i have the World Raid. I cant for the life of me understand Hard luggage on a bike like the Tenere.
I'm a seasoned rider. Yes, I'm old. I would never go back to hard luggage after squashing my leg offroad.
WR for me at 113 kg i want the suspension
Just buy a used T7 and do required changes yourself ;)
I have 12l and 720km range.
What I'm worrying about the Explorer edition is, it could cripple the sales of Tracer 7 in the long run.
I had a tracer 7 and find the T7 is nicer on road.
The tracer was too small with rubbish suspension.
Amazingly, neither WR or Extreme are coming to the US.
Obrigado... Brasil 🇧🇷 MITO
shoulda moved the exaust to the correct location for this model
i fucking love this bike!, great review!
T7 is a great bike but Africa Twin is the king!!!!
Also Yamaha should make an all new SuperTenere 1200.
I just ordered my Africa Twin AS ES. Done waiting for Yamaha.
I am ex-XT600 Yamaha owner. 😂
Standard is all you need.
Who will need these bikes? If it's your only bike I think it's like buying a Jeep Rubicon for your daily family driver. These are definitely a second or 3rd bike for big boys that have big boy riding areas near their big boy homes. If you live in an apartment in the city and have one bike, these are not even in the picture.
But but what if you need to go offroading someday??? What if there is a zombie outbreak or ww3 and you need it to escape hell??
You're so right, but we are men.... and what about the zombie apocalypse?
@@christiangrendel9893 😁
Extreme for me and I live in France. Just need to find the dollar 😂
have ...so lucky
Wish Yamaha wòuld make the t7 Lighter Lower and Less espensive ,keep the motor though.Gotta be able to pick it up in the mud by my self . Hate these TFT displays . I've had to repl 3 tablets and 2 phones in the last 7years and their just in the house , gimme an old school speedo and idiot lites AND TUBLESS TIRES ! Might have to stick with my 2003 KLR650
One of the reasons why Kove is probably gonna take the market over. No one wants to spend 15k on a bike in a sport that beats up bikes.
I really hope the world raid comes to the USA. With a wider seat, it sounds like a potential option for my trip to Alaska.
So Mr.Bob, no more cheap and availability in US. Why "Y" ignoring US?
they can't engineer a high exhaust or what?
Some people just don’t feel hard core enough , unless the bike is the full bollocks
Boy, I loves me some good 'spension 💖
7:43 What the hell is the point of a quickshifter on a bike like this? If getting up the road as fast as possible is so important to you, and shaving every fraction of a second off acceleration, maybe you should get a sports bike. I just don't see the logic of it. A maker like Yamaha really should know better.
@Kattrap Nonsense! I've had a Tracer 700 for almost 3 years. How long have you had a CP2 engined bike? I came to it after about 7-8 years on a Bandit 1200, as well as numerous other bikes in 40 years of riding. Even after the Bandit, I don't find the Tracer lacking in performance, especially in the low-mid range, and I've done thousands of miles on it, on all kinds of roads (mainly mountainous/hilly ones, as I live in Wales). And, in line with what I said in my initial reply, if it's top end performance you're after, what the hell are you buying a 689cc twin for? No twin cylinder bike of this size is going to have high top-end power. As regards its “ limited low rev high torque powerband requires a bit more shifting than other engines”, that makes no sense, whatsoever! You just contradicted yourself; why do you need to shift more, to keep it in its “low rev high torque powerband”? In the low to mid range, this engine excels...for its size, it's a very torquey engine so, by definition, you don't need to shift much! It has 50ft/lbs; a Bandit 1200 has 67, and is over 20 kilos heavier, so that shows just how good the CP2 is. You really need to think out what you say, before publishing it.
@Kattrap How patronising. What do you feel I didn't understand? Oh, and it's "litre", by the way!
Quick shifter reduces wear on the transmission and clutch.
To what extent?? If you are changing your clutch and/or chain & sprockets so often, that you feel a need to install a device to reduce that frequency, I'd say you probably need to take a good look at how you change gears...as well as your maintenance! In 40 years of riding all sorts of bikes, I've not once changed anything related to the transmission, and thought "Shit, that didn't last long!". Come on, get real!! 🤣
we get NONE of this in the US!!! these would sell like hotcakes here, not sure why they don't let us have them!