Merovingian Kings Family Tree

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  • @UsefulCharts
    @UsefulCharts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Be sure to check out the complete #ProjectClovis playlist:
    th-cam.com/video/kjBRCuj9pCU/w-d-xo.html

    • @HistoryandHeadlines
      @HistoryandHeadlines 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am looking forward to seeing all the videos in the playlist! :)

    • @cormacmacsuibhne2867
      @cormacmacsuibhne2867 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was a great video but there was a mistake at 11:03.

    • @HistoryandHeadlines
      @HistoryandHeadlines 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @ShalakumX Simba Something I have been wondering is given the prevalence of slavery in most civilizations throughout history, I wonder if everyone living today is descended from a slave? It would be interesting to consider if many of the people living today have a mixture of noble/royal blood and of those on the opposite end of the socio-economic spectrum. I also wonder how far back we have to go before we find a common ancestor of everyone living today? I have been tempted to try some of those DNA ancestry kits, but I have heard that you get conflicting results from one company versus another and on top of that, I'm not sure it is a good idea to allow some company to have your DNA on record.

    • @FredStoryCoin
      @FredStoryCoin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      greek royal family tree ._.

    • @cassidyblevinsled
      @cassidyblevinsled 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      House of Aberffraw

  • @kalpeshmanna7233
    @kalpeshmanna7233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +302

    King *dies*
    Sons: let's split up gang
    Strongest of them: *I don't think so*

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Youre só funny.......

    • @iagosevatar4865
      @iagosevatar4865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The perfect summary of our first Dynasty

    • @jeeeeev
      @jeeeeev 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thats what gavelkind gets you

    • @kalpeshmanna7233
      @kalpeshmanna7233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iagosevatar4865 where are you from

    • @iagosevatar4865
      @iagosevatar4865 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kalpeshmanna7233 France. I was precisely talking about the Mérovingien. Their Kings ranking is an absolute mess.

  • @ThisisBarris
    @ThisisBarris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +339

    Working on this collab made me realize how fascinating the Merovingians are and how overlooked they are too. I'm glad we did this. Great video! As always.

    • @HistoryandHeadlines
      @HistoryandHeadlines 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Looking forward to your video, too! Any planned publication date?

    • @justarandomfrenchdude9091
      @justarandomfrenchdude9091 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Totally agree, I've been dying for some Merovigian content by TH-cam history channels.
      It's full of war, murder, betrayal, powers behind the throne and all in a very unique layout for Western Europe.

    • @ThisisBarris
      @ThisisBarris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HistoryandHeadlines I hope to have it up next week but work has been killing me lately.

    • @ThisisBarris
      @ThisisBarris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@justarandomfrenchdude9091 Absolutely! It was really fun to read about and gave me huge GOT vibes.

    • @gavinandrew3688
      @gavinandrew3688 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is there a connection with the Spence line and Lady Diana? Or Anne Boleyn? What do you think of Joseph Gregory Hallet's claim to be a descendant of Anne Boleyn?

  • @imokin86
    @imokin86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +387

    Pepin the Middle was especially famous for his careful avoidance of extremes.

    • @mikeoxsmal8022
      @mikeoxsmal8022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      The fist enlightened centrist

    • @Aviationlord7742
      @Aviationlord7742 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Only a sith deals in absolutes

    • @luizsa8300
      @luizsa8300 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Igor Mokin I guess you could he was always “centered” in everything he did.

    • @MrK2890
      @MrK2890 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      All he knew was that his gut said "maybe"

    • @jmadmaxx7295
      @jmadmaxx7295 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aviation lord it’s almost perfect, please change it to sith

  • @KirbyComicsVids
    @KirbyComicsVids 4 ปีที่แล้ว +326

    regarding the names Childeric, Childebert, Chlothar, Chlodomer, etc., the ‘ch’ there shouldn’t be thought of as an English ‘ch’ as in ‘chase’ sound but more like the ‘ch’ in loch or even just an h sound, as it comes from the ancestral Proto-Germanic sound, Hilderic, Hildebert, Hlothar, and Hlodomer are resonable renderings

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I suppose you are right, however, if you want a modern pronounciation, then arguably the Dutch prononciaton would be the closest.

    • @averongodoffire8098
      @averongodoffire8098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This was interesting
      Feel free to share it at parties to break the ice with someone😂

    • @juandavidrestrepoduran6007
      @juandavidrestrepoduran6007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@axolotl-guy9801 Who wants a modern one?

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@juandavidrestrepoduran6007 For etimoligistical purpose. It's interisting. Also the older prononciation would be closer to Dutch than to French ofcourse.

    • @alexd6393
      @alexd6393 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      All these name came from the word Hlod « glorious/famous/honorable ».
      The letter C is an addition from Latin,
      Chlodovechus. Frank king were general from the Roman Empire army. We find coins of Clovis and Clovis father with Roman style as getting their power by the Empire.
      So yes, the C is probably not pronounced.
      Hlodowig = Clovis in mordent graphic probably mean “glorious in battle” as wig is fight or battle.
      Indeed he was :)

  • @SamAronow
    @SamAronow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    I think we all know that the Merovingians were best known for lecturing protagonists about causality and baking exceptional chocolate cake.

    • @UsefulCharts
      @UsefulCharts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Indeed.

    • @EmmaLiza
      @EmmaLiza 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They should have given Alfred some tips.

    • @dr.mmaudi8194
      @dr.mmaudi8194 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not to mention their philandering nature

    • @Menaceblue3
      @Menaceblue3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And having a Italian fashion model as a wife who wants to kiss said protagonist in secret!

    • @iagosevatar4865
      @iagosevatar4865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You had me in the first half, not gonna lie ^^

  • @HikmaHistory
    @HikmaHistory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Came out great as usual! Another great collab!

  • @atree9284
    @atree9284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    When your ancestors have “the Middle”, “the Elder”, but you get *the Short*

  • @Wolfeson28
    @Wolfeson28 4 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    7:33 So, the phrase "it's not over until the fat lady sings" really means "the family blood feud isn't over until the fat lady 'sings' in agony as she is pulled apart by horses". That...is equal parts fascinating and disturbing all at the same time. Gotta love history. :)

    • @BillGreenAZ
      @BillGreenAZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In this case it is where life imitates art.

    • @stephanosnormandusdelacroi8570
      @stephanosnormandusdelacroi8570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Too many today judge the past based on the sensibilities of today it is ignorant obnoxious and a stupid thing to do.

    • @reptilesarecool6739
      @reptilesarecool6739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@stephanosnormandusdelacroi8570 it is actually incredibly important to contextualize history both from the perspective of those alive then, and those alive today. Otherwise you end up with stupid takes like “historical conditions can’t possibly affect people today, it was so long ago!” And “they should get over it, they were never slaves!” Or worse “it’s not as bad as it sounds, it was a different time” or “it didn’t happen like that at all”
      It is important to understand how atrocities of the past can be contextualizad within the times they occurred, but not view them as “ok and fine” because it was so long ago. It was not ok and fine for the women taken and the children killed and the villages put to the torch, whether it was 1965 or 965 or 96 or 1965 BC. just because it was more normal does not mean it was more good or more ok.

    • @noorbohamad5796
      @noorbohamad5796 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@reptilesarecool6739doesn’t make it “false” to say that it DID happen a long ago time yet still no I don’t agree with everything that men did to men to women to kids just because it’s “back then in the past” but what am I or anyone else gonna able to do about the shit that men did?

    • @reptilesarecool6739
      @reptilesarecool6739 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@noorbohamad5796 what are you going to do about it? Understand the root causes of atrocities and how they start, build up, and are carried out - so that nobody is ever victimized by them again.

  • @mikroraptor
    @mikroraptor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    The death of Chlodomers sons was actually very sad. They were only around 6 and 10 when they were killed by their own uncles. They basically went to Clothilde and asked if she would rather them die or have their hair cut. She chose death. The younger son actually ran to his uncle Childebert crying, wrapped his arms around his legs, and begged him not to let him die.
    You can read more about this in book 3 of History of the Franks

  • @bobofthekerbals9797
    @bobofthekerbals9797 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    That theory at the end is the strangest thing I have ever heard.

  • @SadFloridaMan
    @SadFloridaMan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    I can only trace my family back to 1795. But I’m just gonna say I’m descended from Zeus.

    • @mikeoxsmal8022
      @mikeoxsmal8022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Some irish historian /genealogist in the 17th century claimed that the king of Spain was a decendant of hercules and through hercules to Adam and eve

    • @suprcrzy
      @suprcrzy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      We might be cousins then. Im pretty sure I'm the great grandson of Alexander the Great.

    • @Austin8thGenTexan
      @Austin8thGenTexan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@suprcrzy Isn't every person of European descent (white) a descendant of Charlemagne ? 🤔

    • @chevon1920
      @chevon1920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      J Yelvington no, how would that work, every person in the royal family is maybe.

    • @JoaoGabriel-et4kq
      @JoaoGabriel-et4kq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mikeoxsmal8022 wait .. what!? He mixed the Bible with Greek mythology !?

  • @FloCch59
    @FloCch59 4 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    The funny thing about Merovingian, is that, according to actual records, they have no living descendant today. Their line simply died in male and female lines with the last kings, but some historians and genealogists are trying to find a descendance. Their are several merovingian princesses (less than 10 I believe) that we don't know if they ever had children. But the most interesting one, is the one that tend to prove that Charlemagne's mother (Berthe de Laon) was Theuderic IV grand-daughter, making Charlemagne descendant of Clovis, but it's not certain for now. And if that was proven true, and we are descendant of Charlemagne, so we are descendant of Clovis as well. That's the funny thing : either everyone is descendant of Clovis, either no one is.
    I also found it sad that we never found Clovis tomb. It's believed to be somewhere under the streets of Paris and perhaps under Lycée Henri IV, who knows, maybe ne day we'll find it

    • @andreav318
      @andreav318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I’m related to a Merovingian Noble 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @thewoolooherder5918
      @thewoolooherder5918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I traced my ancestry back to Charlemagne, but I’m not sure that counts

    • @basedkaiser5352
      @basedkaiser5352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Why would King Clovis I be buried in Paris when the capital at that time was Soissons ?

    • @basedkaiser5352
      @basedkaiser5352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thewoolooherder5918 Doesn’t really count, he’s a Carolingian.

    • @FloCch59
      @FloCch59 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@basedkaiser5352 Because Soisson wasn't the main capital anymore. In fact, Tournai was even more important for the francs at that time, and at the end of his life till his death in 511, Clovis moved to Paris. and only after his death the kingdom was split between his sons into 4 kingdoms (Paris, Orléans, Reims, Soisson)

  • @tylertrotter7707
    @tylertrotter7707 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I always liked the quote "I know who you are and I know who I am that's all that matters. " I love looking back but I always remember this quote. It gives me a since of knowing.

  • @anxofernandez3344
    @anxofernandez3344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The idea that Charlemagne would not only be a descendant of the Merovingian kings but also of the last prefect of Gaul at the time of the fall of the Western Roman Empire is absolutely fascinating. It would indicate that the barbarians invasion wasn't so much of an invasion or a war effort on their part. Some tribes were invited in and some others just crossed the borders without much opposition. They all merged with part of the local population and even though there was some opposition, the Roman aristocracy probably had a close relationship with the germanic leaders in their territory.

    • @christopheripoll2580
      @christopheripoll2580 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In France, an old well-known theory supposes that it was not a pacific mix. According to that theory, the frankish tribe, which took power in Gaul at the fall of the Roman Empire, would have constituted the future aristocratic class. Meanwhile, the Gallo-romans who were conquered, would have turned into the peasants class. It has to be noted that the French aristocracy was proud of its Frankish descents and overlooked the rest of the population. In that theory, the French Revolution is supposed to be a revenge of the Frankish conquest of Gaul. Of course, this is only a oversimplified theory. But it is fascinating how the great History of France can be analysed through ages as the continuation of a great people.

  • @JackAnna2024
    @JackAnna2024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    An echo of the Merovingians is still to be found in the Netherlands in the name of a side river of the Rhine, called the Merwede. This is exactly where the Salian Franks originate. Salland is one of several names in the area that remember them. The Salian Franks spoke an early form of Dutch.

  • @bradmiller3396
    @bradmiller3396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    As part of a family genealogy project we tracked our line all the way back and found we are direct descendants of Merovich. He's my 46th great grandfather.
    It's so exciting to learn about their history.

    • @Verityization
      @Verityization ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hello, cousin! Actually, I guess all Europeans that trace ancestors that far back are cousins in some way.

    • @missunderstood6862
      @missunderstood6862 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree with Annie's comment.. also did very detailed, time consuming (but rewarding) research, & it does appear that most European descendants, & others who mixed in, are all descendants of Charlemagne, & The Merovingians... really interesting..so we all descend from royalty..totally fascinating..

    • @g.dalfleblanc63
      @g.dalfleblanc63 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@missunderstood6862 I can believe everyone is descended from royalty but not Charlemagne as a direct ancestor. I match 90% Dobunni in the Iron Age, 73% Cherusci in the Roman age, 79% Frank in the Early Medieval age. These are huge chunks of DNA and indicate mass population movements.
      Everyone with Western European ancestry has Charlemagne as say a 7th cousin X46 times removed absolutely. An indirect ancestor.

    • @ElRayDelRio
      @ElRayDelRio ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im a descendant from two French Knights, Sir Galindo de Salazar (french Aigoland)and his brother Sir Gaston de Salazar. These 2 were grandsons of the famous EUDON, who was Duke of Aquitaine, a vast area in S.W France. If we choose to favour this path then the history of the family goes back to the year 425 A.D when Faramundo King of the FRANCS died. He is supposed to be the Salazars utteremost ancestor, and was suceeded by an uninterupted series of 7 generations of monarchs: CLODIO,MORAVES,CHILDERICO,CLODOVEO,CLOTARIO I,CHILPERICO I, & CLOTARIO II, to CARIBERTO (646 A.D) brother of DAGOBERTO I and grandfather of the aforementioned EUDON, Duke of Aquitaine

    • @Lacesoflove
      @Lacesoflove 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@g.dalfleblanc63 Wonder how all this would tie in with King Tut since DNA proves 50% of Europeans and 75% British are related to him. He had red or reddish hair too.

  • @fcalvaresi
    @fcalvaresi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    13:24 « Charlemagne ends up becoming greater than all the kings we have talked about ».
    Well I would rank Clovis just as high as him. He started low, managed to unite all the Franks and then to defeat the Romans, the Alemanni and the Visigoths.

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Indeed, Chlodovech is just as important.

    • @akashpatro9393
      @akashpatro9393 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Charlamagne inherited the most powerful and richest kingdom in all of Europe(second only to the Byzantines) and managed to snowball his empire which is a very impressive feat since no one managed to unite Western Europe ever again

  • @skiteufr
    @skiteufr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The monarchy or House of France has known 3 dynasties : merovingians, carolingians and capetians.
    What is quite exceptional is that the change of dynasty was always peaceful. It needed only a letter from the pope for the carolingians to take over and an election for the capetians to take the throne.
    In many countries, it triggered wars (civil wars or european wide wars).

    • @alexd6393
      @alexd6393 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is not accurate.
      It takes two generations for the Carolingiens to over pass the mérovingiens, and they were very careful.
      It takes 100 years for the Robertiens (first name of Capétiens family) to overpass the carolingien only in the western part of the Frank empire.
      Odo (Eudes) and Robert and Raoul were King before Hugh Capet in his family. It is more than 100 years of fight and building influences to bring him as king.
      And when Hugh become king, nothing can predict that his family will stay for 800 years... that’s why the first Capetian kings will always share the power with their son before they died... in order to build and establish a dynasty.
      Hugh election was nothing but the results of a big and long fight.

    • @skiteufr
      @skiteufr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexd6393 Mon point est que la prise de pouvoir des différentes dynasties a été très pacifique et n'a pas apporté les conflits et les morts qu'on a pu voir dans d'autres pays.
      Que les carolingiens aient mis 2 générations à prendre le pouvoir, et que les Robertiens ont mis 100 ans on s'en fout complètement au final. Ces familles ont toujours été dans les hautes sphères du pouvoir et ont toujours en quelque sortes essayé d'exercer de l'influence. Les robertiens ont beau avoir joué de l'influence, si Louis V avait eu 5 fils en vie à sa mort, les capétiens n'auraient jamais pu prendre le pouvoir. Ils cherchaient le pouvoir mais le contexte d'extinction des carolingiens leur a facilité la tache.
      Ce que je veux dire c'est que le transfert de la couronne des mérovingiens aux carolingiens s'est faite par validation papale et n'a provoqué aucune guerre ce qui est exceptionnel pour l'époque.
      Les capétiens se sont fait élire en 987 ce qui est une façon avancée et pacifique pour l'époque de transférer une couronne, même si les pouvoirs royaux étaient à l'époque plus symboliques. Et si les capétiens ont été élus, c'est parce qu'ils étaient les moins conflictuels et les plus rassembleurs par rapport aux autres candidats. En gros, les capétiens étaient vu comme un choix moins risqué sur lesquels les grands féodaux pouvaient avoir plus facilement de l'influence. Cela a pu être vrai au début mais ça a vite changé

    • @alexd6393
      @alexd6393 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      skiteufr bonjour, je pense sincèrement que vous vous trompez sur le côté non violent de ces prises de pouvoir. Je n’ai plus les références dans la tête, je tenterais de les chercher.
      Je mettais en lumière le temps long car c’est une lutte longue (et violente) et non pas une décision (vote, validation du pape) instantané qui clos un débat.
      Je me trompe peut-être moi aussi je regardais ces événements comme une grande continuité (et elle existe en un sens) mais c’est juste que le details des événements est peu connue/discuté.
      Je tente de vous trouver ces sources et on en reparle :) bien à vous.

    • @thekyler9529
      @thekyler9529 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@alexd6393 Le dernier roi Mérovingiens, Childéric III, est déposé pacifiquement sous autorisation du pape. Eudes I des Robertiens est élu pacifiquement Roi par les ducs après la mort de Charles III dit le Gros alors qu'il n'était que un comte. Charles III dit le Simple des Carolingiens qui avait été écarté par le noble est sacrée en 893 mais deviens roi que en 898 à la mort de Eudes I. Il est déposé militairement après avoir provoqué les noble en 922 et meurt en 929. Robert I, frère de Eudes I, est élu en 922 mais meurt pendant la bataille de Soissons en 923. Les noble choisissent Raoul des Bosonides/Bivinides (pas la même dynastie que les Robertiens), duc de Bourgogne, comme Roi. Raoul meurt sans héritier donc Louis IV, fils de Charles le Simple, est choisi. Louis IV meurt d'une chute de cheval et est hérité par sont fils Lothaire I qui sera hérité par sont fils Louis V. Louis V meurt aussi d'une chute de cheval. Les nobles écarte définitivement les Carolingiens quand ils élient Hughes Capet. Tu a raison de dire que s'était pas automatique et que les dynastie on préparé leur accession au trône sur plusieurs generation mais @skiteufr a raison quand il dit que les transition on été plutôt pacifique car comme je l'ai décrit, saufs pour Robert I, les transitions on été pacifique sans guerre civil meurtrière et dévastatrice comme sa a pu être le cas dans d'autre royaume et empire.

    • @g.dalfleblanc63
      @g.dalfleblanc63 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Carolingians likely murdered Childeric III and his son Theuderic 6 years after deposing the king, they sent the king and his heir to separate monasteries both died 753AD.

  • @burningphoneix
    @burningphoneix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Useful Charts: "And they had an ancestor named Arnoald"
    Me: "The Governator?"

    • @BillGreenAZ
      @BillGreenAZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And then Arnoald said: "I'll be back!"

  • @charlesvvonhabsburg8063
    @charlesvvonhabsburg8063 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    How many "berts" do you want?
    Merovingian dynasty: YES

    • @BillGreenAZ
      @BillGreenAZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I was today's years old when I realized that Bertha was the feminine derivative of Bert.

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BillGreenAZ Wow😂

    • @imokin86
      @imokin86 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      When we get the video on Rurikids, we'll see how many -slavs they wanted... The -berts will be overwhelmed by their multitude.

    • @magisterhpp
      @magisterhpp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dagobert Duck is clearly a descendant.....$$$ Probably just a bastard though ☹️

  • @lukedanuser
    @lukedanuser 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Looking forward to another great video! You’re one of my favorite channels!

  • @elfarlaur
    @elfarlaur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    "The Pope though those in power should be kings" is an interesting way to say "Pepin saved the Pope's ass from the Lombards while Byzantium was busy dealing with its own shit so he knew he owed Pepin big time." ;P

    • @Xerxes2005
      @Xerxes2005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, and the Pope did not suddenly decide to make Pépin King. Pépin le Bref more or less asked asked the Pope "Who is more worthy to be King: the one who reigns, or the one who actually rules the Kingdom?" The papal approval gave Pépin the legitimacy to depose Childéric III.

  • @textbookidiocy3896
    @textbookidiocy3896 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Ah, Gavelkind.. the most irritating system for stability.

    • @ducovanderwoude6971
      @ducovanderwoude6971 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      You should switch to agnatic-cognatic primogeniture as soon as your laws allow it and you have reigned for ten years.

    • @Zach-mw5so
      @Zach-mw5so 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      CK2 players worst headache 😐

    • @achaeanmapping4408
      @achaeanmapping4408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ducovanderwoude6971 If you play your cards right agnatic does the job aswell

    • @violenceisfun
      @violenceisfun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      But really it's Enatic Open that's the best, especially for marrying into powerful bloodlines.

    • @Lolpy.
      @Lolpy. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Zach-mw5so It’s pretty bad in the beginning, but I mean that in as in the beginning of your time playing. After thousands of hours, you begin to realize that it kind of gets boring to have a vast kingdom with no repercussions upon death, just more expansion. It’s sometimes a little fun to have to fight for your titles, and then get back to the expansion. The borders can get fucked up though.

  • @jamistardust5181
    @jamistardust5181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm really glad that you added Charlemagne. I've did my own ancestry and I have your chart of the European Royal families. When I got to the 6th century I found what you show and I'm happy that I match your chart.. I'm a subscriber and I thought I should tell you how much I enjoy your videos. I think they're great. I saw your video on being descended to Charlemagne, but by the time I saw it I had Already charted it. I'm descended from Margaret Tudor through both her children. James V and Margaret Douglas. I started circling my ancestors on your chart and while I did that I discovered more ancestors. It shows that James V of Scotland was descended from almost the whole of the upper half of the chart. So thank you for making my experience with ancestry more full.

  • @GottaBeThere2736
    @GottaBeThere2736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much for this excellent series. Fascinating. Educational. Thought-provoking. INTRIGUING! 😊

  • @sebastianmller9747
    @sebastianmller9747 4 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    I know I descend from antiquity. Mainly because humans don’t just spontaneously come to be.

    • @UsefulCharts
      @UsefulCharts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Of course. It's knowing the exact lineage that's the trick.

    • @photinodecay
      @photinodecay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, that only happens to the Goddess of Love

    • @LostDisciple24
      @LostDisciple24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@UsefulCharts My sister has factually dated our line all the way back to the 550s definitively with documentation. These don't say much...more or less just names and dates of births/deaths. Then again, at that point, we were in England (in what would become Shaftesbury) where the Dark Ages weren't soo dark. Pretty interesting history if I may say so myself. Its actually how I got interested in the Anglo-Saxons, Alfred the Great, etc.

    • @rickyrick2330
      @rickyrick2330 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@LostDisciple24 thats really interesting, where are you know?

    • @manub.3847
      @manub.3847 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@LostDisciple24 For one thing, we mustn't forget that births and weddings and days of death were recorded almost exclusively for the leading class. General registers were kept in churches around the 14th and 15th centuries. Now comes the next hurdle: many of these church registers have been destroyed by wars, pillage, natural disasters, etc.
      Not to forget that the church areas may have changed several times in the meantime and the official registers are kept in a completely different church congregation or an office.
      So it can be quite difficult for the "common man" to retrace his line far enough. The oldest church registers are only available as fragments and come from the 14th century from Provence and Italy.

  • @berendboer8459
    @berendboer8459 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    On the topic of "how far back can you go?", I would be very interested in a video on the descendants of Confucius!

  • @Nicolas-zb9uw
    @Nicolas-zb9uw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very well down !!! And I don't say that so often . Narrator speak slowly enough, with a clear voice where we understand each syllable . Visualy , every one can follow even though the map is complex.First time I was showned that so clearly .

  • @arbremonde13
    @arbremonde13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Holy Grail translates to Saint Graal in French, which is theorized to be an alteration of Sang Réal, which means Royal Blood.

    • @real_nosferatu
      @real_nosferatu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Or "holy blood".

    • @yamitsukikarasu8857
      @yamitsukikarasu8857 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@real_nosferatu réal which became royal has nothing to do with the word for holy (saint). Holy blood is pronounced "sang saint".

    • @hamnchee
      @hamnchee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@yamitsukikarasu8857 Real was the grail part not the holy part.

    • @roiq5263
      @roiq5263 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Makes sense.

    • @moorek1967
      @moorek1967 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Holy Grail is the Eucharist.

  • @itallia666
    @itallia666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Years ago when delving into my own strange ancestry i became side tracked by the Merovingian
    Line, of the long haired priest kingsl
    I was also tracking folklore & myth of ancient Ireland
    Anyway to cut things short, i linked the Irish great Lord
    The Dagda with Dagobert of the
    Merovingians
    Also i think the other folk hero
    Chuchulain ( not sure of spelling)
    But pronounced Ca- hoo- lan
    Travelled widely & my belief is he crossed the Atlantic down into
    The north of S America & became
    The white haired, bearded god from across the sea as
    Kukulcan, god of the Aztecs or earlier Olmecs or Mixtecs comparing this name to Chuchulain ( Ca hoo lan)
    ( intrestingly there was something about dragons with the Tuatha DeDanaan & flying dragons, think what the ancient
    Olmecs called Kukulcan - the
    Feathered Serpent !! Not that the serpent was feathered but
    Was symbolic of flight, as in birds feathers help them fly.)
    Also it was said that Kukulcan departed in a raft of serpents
    Too, promising to return but he never did, but thinking of his raft of sepents & feathered serpents did his " raft" hover over the waters? Like the Hydrofoil?
    Also Chuchulain & Kukulcan could have been the origional folk hero's or descendants baring the same name.
    Im not sure if Chuchulain originated from Ireland or was descended from the
    Tuatha DeDanaan which by
    Their sophistication, dress, style
    Art & great history, had arrived in Ireland in remote times
    I even entertained the theory that these people the Tuatha
    DeDanaan who landed in Ireland in great ships from a far off land were from Canaan (DeDanaan) & may have been all or some of the scattered 12 tribes of Israel.
    I remember reading the story of magnificent these Tuatha were with clothes of sumptuous fabrics, styles, intelligence, great goldsmiths, their homes & interiors brought gasps from the native Irish people!
    In the case of Irish Chuchulain & Mexican Inca Aztec Kukulcan
    Its a puzzle if The Irish one traveled to the people of Aztec culture 1st from elsewhere then on to Ireland or from Ireland to S.America?
    Anyway i really enjoy your family trees ! So facinating
    Some of my favourite family Trees are in the appendix of some of Laurence Gardiners
    Book Bloodline of the Holy Grail
    These are brilliant Family tree charts of European & Scottish
    Royalty reaching far back in time & showing the Kings of Albany
    Thank you
    🇬🇧👧

  • @jjpe306
    @jjpe306 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    excellent! have wanted a Merovingian video for ages! this channel might just spark people to go researching and find some lost documents that connect antiquity to the middle ages.

    • @hawkishOwl2020
      @hawkishOwl2020 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think there are a lot of connections we don’t know about. At certain times it probably made sense to keep certain secrets or people involved didn’t keep records, which makes it hard to trace.

    • @hawkishOwl2020
      @hawkishOwl2020 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      From a macro view, you had Germanic tribes basically become “Romanized” in about two hundred years. How did that happen?

  • @orlandovaldes5221
    @orlandovaldes5221 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Could you make a video of the Monarchy of the Visigothic Kingdom

  • @KenDelloSandro7565
    @KenDelloSandro7565 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Unfortunately the Franks didn't practice primogeniture. It would of saved them from a lot of headaches.

    • @D.Appeltofft
      @D.Appeltofft 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed. But in all fairness, they had a sharp remedy for all diseases..

    • @pierren___
      @pierren___ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They did... They litterally invented that : Salic Law

    • @thhseeking
      @thhseeking 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did the Franks always complain about the cat doing a whoopsie in their helmets? Was there a "Betty" in there?

  • @lucypreece7581
    @lucypreece7581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My mum did some genealogy research on her mum's family tree. she got as far back as the 1700's we found a pub owner and a mystery of a person who emigrated to the USA just after ww2 no royals or nobles. all working class British people. kind of proud about that.

    • @barrymoore4470
      @barrymoore4470 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even though the documentation doesn't exist, some degree of royal or noble ancestry for your family is almost certain, as it is for everyone else. Statistically, the further you go back in time, the more likely that a person living at that time who has descendants living today is an ancestor of yours. This means that we all inevitably have princes and rulers among our ancestors, though the exact relationship is lost to written history.

  • @Lord_Raymund
    @Lord_Raymund 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I think it would have been more fitting to use the golden bee instead of the fleur-de-lis for this colab.

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes indeed. Really iritating. Like they were French kings.

  • @bsw095
    @bsw095 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This channel is pure gold. Love from India. ❤️

  • @dylanrodriguez450
    @dylanrodriguez450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow you have everything I’m looking for, I’m related to Charles Martel too, you are just blowing my mind today thank you

    • @warangel4389
      @warangel4389 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m related to Charles Martel too.

    • @dylanrodriguez450
      @dylanrodriguez450 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@warangel4389 Yeah but thousands and thousands of ppl are too. A person with any EU ancestry whatsoever are most likely related to Charlemagne

    • @dylanrodriguez450
      @dylanrodriguez450 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@warangel4389 it’s pretty common, just like it’s pretty common for everyone to have royal blood

  • @lolgod8995
    @lolgod8995 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great video thanks for uploading

  • @patrickthesunofdragons9156
    @patrickthesunofdragons9156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    How many kings start with the letter C do you want?
    Merovingian: Yes.

    • @basedgod6016
      @basedgod6016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ironically the letter c didn't actually exist in any of their names at the time, was added later in latin. iirc they should all be pronounced more like khillderic/hilderic or something like that

  • @nunyabiznez6381
    @nunyabiznez6381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    In Dan Brown's book, The da Vinci Code, the story is focused on a woman who is the descendant of Jesus. The story implies that she is the ONLY descendant of Jesus making it critical that she be protected and her existence kept a secret. Assuming that a descendant of Jesus might actually exist, if they did it is extremely unlikely that a bloodline would go on for two thousand years as one single line terminating with one living person. As a genealogist it has been my experience that bloodlines expand over time after a certain point. For example as this video points out, it is most likely that all or virtually all Europeans are ultimately descended from Charlemagne. The number of Charlemagne's descendants alive today probably exceeds a billion people. Charlemagne was born in the 8th century. So it would be all the truer for someone born two thousand years ago to have a large number of descendants and in fact most likely several billions of them.
    Another thing I'd like to point out though a bit off topic for this video it was an integral part of Dan Brown's book and that is the mystery of the location of Mary Magdalene's body. There is no mystery. According to legend, her body was broken up into pieces and deposited in reliquaries in churches all over France and other parts of Europe, a finger bone here a toe bone there a tooth somewhere else. In fact there's probably a piece of her in nearly any French church you visit that's a few hundred years old. I don't think any church has a piece of her bigger than her forearm. Her relics were some of the most sought after in Europe and were so popular at one point that it is likely if you gathered all her pieces up and put them together she'd weigh several tons. I am not aware of any DNA tests having been conducted on any of these relics but I would imagine the results would be both controversial and enlightening.

    • @AdirondackRuby
      @AdirondackRuby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's like the relics that are supposedly shards of the True Cross. Add them all up, you'd have a dozen "crosses" from the Crucifixion. It's also worth pointing out that, especially in Brown's book but also in many others, that the Descendents of Christ matter way more than Jesus himself. He is so drastically unimportant that you'd wonder why and how people descended from him would matter at all. It's like that in Islam. They reject his holiness & diety, they reject his crucifixion, they reject everything that is important about him...but somehow make him one of their very super important pre-Mohammad Prophets.

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AdirondackRuby Every europian can trace their line back to the Robertians (I trough the earlier French/West-Francia kings), same as for example Charlemange. If the stories are true that they are desentants of the merovingians than, according to the stories, they are also desentants of jezus. Of course that ain't true. I hated to that they acted like she was the "only" desentant.

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@toqtoq3361 I hope you don't mean me with that? Even for fiction, it has terribly spread the wrong ideas into the world. Even non fictional people are changed in the storie. Like the Merovingians, they act in the film and book like they were French monarchs.

    • @AdirondackRuby
      @AdirondackRuby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Kevin Warburton Well that's heretical and blasphemous garbage, but thanks for sharing. Rejecting the fact that Jesus is the Son of God and a part of the Trinity IS rejecting his Holiness. Try that "he was a human who was a really cool teacher" nonsense on someone else.

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@toqtoq3361 Thanks, sorry for my late reaction.

  • @age3801
    @age3801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Let's all part St. Cloud for all the benefits he offer us.

  • @Renould2010
    @Renould2010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you, for great Body of Knowledge, 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿💯🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙌🏾💡💫🌟

  • @Jliske2
    @Jliske2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for this vid! I know I can trace my ancestry back to Dagobert I and it was really cool to see how it tied in

  • @materialgirl338
    @materialgirl338 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally. I have been studying Sir Laurence Gardner's work.

    • @marioq2759
      @marioq2759 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is extremely correct. He woke me up and I was extremely shocked when I found out that he was actually talking about me and my family. After my DNA results and confirmation from my Y-DNA and my father's side that I never knew. I discovered more than I could ever of imagined. I never chose to be apart of this Holy Grail thing.

  • @vampiregamingyt8754
    @vampiregamingyt8754 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'd love to see a speculative video about decent from antiquity, and see exactly what theories exist to connect people like Charlemagne back to the Romans and beyond

    • @karensullivan8458
      @karensullivan8458 ปีที่แล้ว

      This guys video was all speculation. There is more proof of lineage that this guy said there was none of than who killed who back then, or any of the "history" that he talked about. They knew who their sons were and who would inherit the throne after them. You know, like in King Louis the 1st all the way through the 15th. I'd say that's pretty good proof of lineage even if they've lost the paper documents, scrolls made of animal skin or the rock tablets that they carved on to record it.

  • @Amadeu.Macedo
    @Amadeu.Macedo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Outstanding production, as customary.

  • @Lancor84
    @Lancor84 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ah good video. You left out the Chronicles of Fredegar though, which are also a historic document but tell that the Merowingians actually descend from a sea monster named quintauros.

  • @stevetournay6103
    @stevetournay6103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "This is where it starts to get a bit complicated"...
    At which point my head was already spinning like a driveshaft. 😀
    The recurring phrase "King of All the Franks" almost comes across like "Third base!" in that famous Abbott and Costello skit. But hey, what a great name for a hotdog stand...

  • @ElRayDelRio
    @ElRayDelRio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im descended from two French Knights, Sir Galindo de Salazar (french Aigoland) and his brother Sir Gaston de Salazar. These 2 were grandsons of the famous EUDON, who was Duke of Aquitaine, a vast area in S.W France. If we choose to favour this path then the history of the family goes back to the year 425 A.D when Faramundo King of the FRANCS died. He is supposed to be the Salazars utteremost ancestor, and was suceeded by an uninterupted series of 7 generations of monarchs: CLODIO, MORAVES, CHILDERICO, CLODOVEO, CLOTARIO I, CHILPERICO I, & CLOTARIO II, to CARIBERTO (646 A.D) brother of DAGOBERTO I and grandfather of the aforementioned EUDON, Duke of Aquitaine.

  • @JWPemperor
    @JWPemperor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    5:43 Neustria = (New/Neu/nieuw land) from Syagrius, a Roman commander
    ("Dominio di Siagrio" - kingdom 461-486/494)
    This was the first land added after Austrasia (Old/alt/oud land) was united
    This is why Austria is wat 500/600 later become (East/ost/oost/öst land)
    This is why I like your vids .. I never found a link between the Merovingian and the Carolingians
    And most of my European dynasties maps are 400 years old.

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great idea for the collaboration. If you want to make another one about a specific dynasty, that is a bit overlooked today, might I suggest the Jagiellonians?

  • @dylanvlahos8466
    @dylanvlahos8466 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how you make your videos educational and interesting at the same time keep making awesome videos

  • @Normal_user_coniven
    @Normal_user_coniven 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of the important theories says that Tonantius Ferrolus II is the grandson of the Western Roman Emperor Avitus, from his daughter Empress Papianilla. Which means that the new Holy Western Roman Emperor is decent of the old Roman Empire.

    • @lexxluther5589
      @lexxluther5589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting. Is there a book or source where I could look this up sir?

  • @ryanvoll7088
    @ryanvoll7088 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    When doing my genealogy, I know once I get to a certain point, it’s just legendary and mythological people in my family tree.
    But I still add them, as it’s fun.
    I believe most trees prior to the 1200’s is sketchy. But it’s still fun to claim descent from these people.
    After all, even DNA makes it hard to dispute the claims, as the percentage of DNA directly from these people is so small, that there is a good chance we have it. Just maybe not in the direct path we thought.
    And when you get to the BC era, there is a chance that we all trace back to any of the famous people of those eras, just like all European descendants are a descendant of Charlemagne, it’s highly likely the same prior to him.

    • @photinodecay
      @photinodecay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The DNA could also have convergent mutations.

    • @ryanvoll7088
      @ryanvoll7088 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rahul Jain
      Exactly, the further back we go, the more issues we may have with the DNA.

    • @jeandiatasmith4512
      @jeandiatasmith4512 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I got back to 901 going father to father and not investigating any females. I have a whole lot of Johannes and Friederichs but no nobility that I recognized. I got us from America to Germany to England when I hit the 901 dead end.

    • @BillGreenAZ
      @BillGreenAZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryanvoll7088 The further back we go we may not have any DNA remnants from those ancestors.

    • @chrissmith3587
      @chrissmith3587 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that is assuming all our female ancestors were faithful, can’t be certain that there isn’t some drama far back in the family tree

  • @MichieHoward
    @MichieHoward 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Merovingian Restoration one of my favorite scenarios to play out in CK2.

  • @theresawilliams4296
    @theresawilliams4296 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your work. These are a pure joy to watch. Keep up the good work.

  • @Popperite
    @Popperite 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As I have heard there is a geneological line through the Artsruni Kings of Armenia that goes back to antiquity. As they are descendants of the Parthian kings.

  • @gerritlageweg2055
    @gerritlageweg2055 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Merovingian lineage goes back to Troy and before that to Arcadia in Greece.
    When you visit the South of France there are interesting legends to be discovered.

    • @pierren___
      @pierren___ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol, thats a copy of the roman myth

  • @defaultuser9423
    @defaultuser9423 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fascinating. Regarding descent from antiquity though, i think it's just under-researched and we may be able to find links if we look hard enough. Especially with the help of modern tools like archaeogenetics.

    • @UsefulCharts
      @UsefulCharts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Trust me. People have been looking.

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What do you think of the book Lest Darkness Fall and the role of the Franks in it?

  • @locutusest
    @locutusest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have traced my ancestors back to Charlemagne through the Scottish Grant Clan, the Forbes family, and the Stewarts, all the way back to James I Stewart, King of Scotland, and his wife Joan Beaufort, daughter of John of Gaunt and descendant of Charlemagne.

    • @varionbodhi2152
      @varionbodhi2152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Statistically that is not uncommon.

    • @marioq2759
      @marioq2759 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you a Direct Male Y-DNA linkage. Because I can confirm it. Or maybe you are just related? 🤔 Even if you are just related we are still blessed.

    • @locutusest
      @locutusest ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @marioq2759 I have no idea. Never taken a DNA test. Still descended through like ten different lines from Joan and James I and Joan and her second wife James Stewart of Lorne

    • @marioq2759
      @marioq2759 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@locutusest Thank you so much for the great info. You have a very Interesting genealogy.

    • @marioq2759
      @marioq2759 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@locutusest I will tell you about the secret. Every time I post the actual Y-DNA Numbers Sequences they get completely wiped out on the internet by an unknown source. They do not want the information to get out. But I will tell you this. Yes there is around 10 Stewart lines. But only 1 of them is the actual Stewart Sangrail Bloodline. I am of that Y-DNA line. There are only around 240 known people who share my extremely rare DNA Haplogroup Bloodtype. I am not even supposed to exist. I am hoping that as long as I can keep The actual Y-DNA Sequences offline then hopefully this message 🙏 will get through. I however have turned against My Heritage Stewart Clans my own people because I don't like the way they dictate and control things. However I am Allll For the Sinclair's or Saint Claire's in which I am also related. But the sooner you finally get your full DNA Sequences it would be so wonderful to see more about our Family History in past times. ❤️ History is amazing and what is even more amazing is the Untold History.

  • @TheSandkastenverbot
    @TheSandkastenverbot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    There's a reason why Orleans isn't written Orlenne: it's pronounced totally differently.

    • @raloniusmaximus
      @raloniusmaximus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think it's pronounced like Or-LEE-on

    • @ThisisBarris
      @ThisisBarris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@raloniusmaximus It's pronounced or-lay-an but it's okay, it's just a name.

    • @achaeanmapping4408
      @achaeanmapping4408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@raloniusmaximus I think its more Or(the stereotipical french r)-le(like the french word le)-on

    • @patrickhannot7071
      @patrickhannot7071 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The pronunciation of Orléans has no equivalent in English. The final S must not be pronounced. There are three syllables. "or" (easy it's almost like in English but the "r" is more guttural) "lé" (I think the equivalent does not exist in English) it's almost like "lee" but your lips must be more closed. Finally "an" which is not pronounced like in English because it is a nasal sound. The best is that you pronounce as in New Orleans which is very fun for a Frenchman and it has a lot of charm.

    • @raloniusmaximus
      @raloniusmaximus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@achaeanmapping4408 yeah i say both. sometines i say or-le-on, sometimes or-LEE-on.

  • @suzannewateridge
    @suzannewateridge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You finally did it!

  • @beth7935
    @beth7935 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What I love about the whole "bloodline of Jesus" thing is that it was a prank, & the authors of "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" fell for it :D

    • @thhseeking
      @thhseeking 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Pierre Plantard de St Clair" was a con artist and wanted by French Police for years.

    • @beth7935
      @beth7935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thhseeking Yeah, that name sounds familiar, & the fact that he was a big-time con artist. I still don't get how anyone could fall for it tho- I threw the damn book across the room in disgust, & that was before I knew details like that the list of leaders of the whatever-secret-society included well-known people who were dead at the time they were apparently the leader :D

  • @vkain100
    @vkain100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s funny I was just looking this up at work earlier today, and then I see your video.

  • @Aviationlord7742
    @Aviationlord7742 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Time to fire up CK2 and restore the Merovingians to their rightful throne

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes!! love it that It's free today!

    • @Lolpy.
      @Lolpy. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that even possible? I thought they were all dead by 769?

    • @1992zorro
      @1992zorro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Lolpy. No, there's another one....

    • @Lolpy.
      @Lolpy. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1992zorro Oh damn.
      Well I’ve got my next playthrough idea.

  • @biblicaltheology9760
    @biblicaltheology9760 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello there. So Ive been doing some research on Charlemagne myself recently and I've got some info id like to share with y'all.
    I understand it's at best speculation but I've come to the conclusion that st Arnulf's of Metz's parents were Ansbertus de Metz and Oda (Chrodoare) Aus Schwaben.
    From there it's to my under standing that his ancestors goes as follows.
    1).Ansbertus ferreolus+Billihild
    2).Tonantius ferreolus+Deuteria
    3).tonantius ferreolus the elder+Industria
    5).Tonantius Ferreolus ferreol+papianilla
    Papianilla's ancestors goes as follows:
    1).Flavius syagrius Afranius+ (?)
    2).Aegedius Afranius de syagrius+ syagrius Postumii Syagrii
    3).Afranius AFRANII de lyon+ Postumii Syagrii de ROME Syagria
    4). Afranius Hannibalianus+Eutropia
    5).Hannibalianus tralles+Flavia minor
    6).Hannibalianus de ROME+Flavia major
    Please note that to my understanding, eutropia is the sister of Constantine I, who's son was Constantine II, whom by the way married flavia theodora, the sister of Afranius AFRANII de lyon
    Flavius majors parents were Titus Flavius Stasicles Metrophanes and Claudia Capitolina (the geneology that I have goes back to about 220 BC)
    From what I currently understand, the current theory about Blithilde is that she might have actually been the daughter of charibert I. Or another words, the grand daughter of chlothar I
    I hope this helps. Keep up the good work. Say you make awesome videos.

  • @ourresidentcockney8776
    @ourresidentcockney8776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Never heard that King Arthur story in terms of the whole Jesus thing. Wouldn't surprise me if that legend began as an adapted form of a mythological figure in one of the Anglo-Saxon Royal Genealogies. I think it was about a person called Beowa (I can't recall the exact name). The child was found in the waters, was raised and eventually became the tribal leader. Rather reminiscent of the story of Moses. Was definitely a case of mythological explanation that was taken literally at one point or another.
    Would be great to see a video about those highly contested genealogies sometime!

  • @princekrazie
    @princekrazie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Last time I was this early China had no emperor yet

  • @shorebird-y
    @shorebird-y 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Childeric is officially my favorite historical name. A chill dude named Derrick.

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is the origininal name, in Frankish.

  • @Normal_user_coniven
    @Normal_user_coniven 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Some theories say that Lambert II is the son of Sigebert II, so, Bourbons have the Y-chromosome of Merovingians.
    However, some other theories say that the male-line relation between Lambert II and Capetians is unclear, so maybe there is no male-line relation to Merovingians, even if Lambert II was a Merovingian,
    and that is because of Robert II, Count of Hesbaye, maybe he is not a son of Thuringbert of Worms and Rheingau.

    • @marioq2759
      @marioq2759 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am of the legit real Holy Grail Bloodline

  • @theHippiecat15
    @theHippiecat15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The covering up of the holy grail bloodline is one of the most interesting stories in history, much moreso than fancy bloodlines of these autocrats that benefitted from the cover-up.

    • @stephanosnormandusdelacroi8570
      @stephanosnormandusdelacroi8570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Judging from your political compass map why are you even here? You hate European people that's what the left is today. Malcolm x was right never trust a white liberal how do you trust someone who hates their own kind.

    • @theHippiecat15
      @theHippiecat15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@stephanosnormandusdelacroi8570 ??????

    • @greywolf7577
      @greywolf7577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@stephanosnormandusdelacroi8570 I find it sad how you think that wanting racial equality is the same as "hating your own kind". That's a very racist view.

    • @greywolf7577
      @greywolf7577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@theHippiecat15 Yeah, but the holy grail bloodline story is almost certainly false so that makes it somewhat less interesting in my eyes.

    • @theHippiecat15
      @theHippiecat15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@greywolf7577 Historically and contextually it would almost be absurd to pretend the bloodline didn't exist. Theologically and officially I would agree that there is no bloodline and it is unfortunately lost to history.

  • @gre3nishsinx0Rgold4
    @gre3nishsinx0Rgold4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    That story about being in the bloodline as jesus reminds me of how rich and powerful nobles tries to link their family to someone famous, for legitimacy. Like how some family tried to link their family to William Wallace.

    • @Lancor84
      @Lancor84 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The historic document, the Chronicles of Fredegar, tell us that the Merowingians possibly descended from a divine seamonster.

    • @daniellepavone5598
      @daniellepavone5598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Records are secretly kept. They will never let you know the truth. All world leaders are descended from Charlemagne. All presidents of the US are related to this line.

    • @marioq2759
      @marioq2759 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@daniellepavone5598As I am as well and they didn't want me knowing who I was. Now I know the truth through Y-DNA testing and most people don't believe me or even look at all the evidence I have and found.

  • @Mooseman327
    @Mooseman327 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Senator Joseph McCarthy once referred to President Harry S Truman as "that Merovingian in the White House" during a speech on the Senate floor. I wonder if he knew something we don't.

    • @lexxluther5589
      @lexxluther5589 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have a source or link for this sir as it's very interesting? I would like to look that up

  • @mikeoxsmal8022
    @mikeoxsmal8022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Funfact clovis is the same name as Louis just earlier version it

    • @photinodecay
      @photinodecay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So now the question is whether there have been more than 20 or more than 30 kings name Louis/Clovis in France.

    • @mikeoxsmal8022
      @mikeoxsmal8022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@photinodecay lol

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mikeoxsmal8022 Yes indeed. However, It's not Clovis, but Clodovech wo is the first name.
      For everybady a clear neutral non-political pronounciation guide to the names of the merovingian kings. from a linguastic. Stay close to the Dutch prononciaton, not German, not French. Dutch is a derect desentant of Frankish.

    • @MsCherloke
      @MsCherloke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@photinodecay Well, there has been 17 French kings named Louis in France. Indeed, the last of the Louis' was Louis the 18th, who came after Louis the 16th during the Restauration after Napoleon's second abdication. For the Bourbons at that time, Louis the 17th was actually the previous king's son, that became it "automatically" (fondamental law of the kingdom) at the execution of his father. But he never ruled, and like as far as it is considered, the First French Republic is vastly considered as the legitimate sovereign from this time (so, overwriting the fondamental laws), we can safely put Louis the 17th out of the list.
      The interesting point is tracing from when they started counting the Louis.
      There has been 4 Clovis during the Merovingians, and the Louis' started under the Caroligians (with Louis the Pious). The first non-carolingian Louis appeared (from 1108) after the firm installation of the Capetians in power (from 987, even if there were some before, but it wasn't constant, more commonly referred as Robertians at that time). Still, he was Louis the VIth, as the first Louis in the French kings genealogy is Louis the Pious, son of Charlemagne and Emperor.
      So it is interesting here : the French kings were referred directly as a continuation of the line of succession of the Carolingians, even after the change of Dynasty in the 10th century. Were this name contested by the east ? No idea. But it shows clearly France as a continuation (even if not the only one) of the Carolingian empire.
      On the other hand, the change of name (and count) from Clovis IV under the Merovingians to Louis I in the Carolingians could show a deeper change between these two dynasties. Which I doubt (Carolingians were the effective rulers of late merovingians' France + with the Pope's confirmation, the Carolingians took directly the crown of a continuous kingdom).
      Even if you don't read French (the pages are pretty clear), it is interesting to compare the list of French monarchs on French and English wikipedia pages (in French to find it : "Liste des monarques de France"). You see clearly the French make it start at Clovis, and the English at the Francia Occidentalis (after Louis the Pious, but still admitting the French numeration of Kings and, for Louis, that include Louis the Pious before the creation of the Francia Occidentalis). I guess it is pretty much a nationalist debate at this point.
      I'm not versed enough in it to have a viewpoint, and I'd be glad to have yours. Aa a French, I guess the anglo-saxon history community might be more objective on it than the French one, but I might be mistaken.

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MsCherloke Well, the merovingians were at least not French monarchs, that's for shure.

  • @YossefSalmos
    @YossefSalmos หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, My ancestry line goes back to a Merovingian ancestor. I discovered that a year ago. I have always been fascinated with the Marovingian and Platagenet, etc... Thanks for the video.

  • @jordanleighwheatley
    @jordanleighwheatley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I traced my ancestry back to these leaders (at least as much as anyone can be certain through paper records). So this is very cool for me to watch

  • @patrickthesunofdragons9156
    @patrickthesunofdragons9156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In Fact: One of the sons of King Charibert I of Paris who was Charibert of Hesbaye considered to be the ancestor of Robertians.

  • @louannestenson1286
    @louannestenson1286 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your channel! ❤️

  • @AlkalineAjay
    @AlkalineAjay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Please do a Video on Descent from Antiquity! tracing people today that have famous ancestors

  • @drevenypribor6144
    @drevenypribor6144 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been looking forward to this

  • @franciscopinto380
    @franciscopinto380 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kings, at Mediavel Ages, had good records of their lineage, and even in that time there were people (like a Portuguese noble, son of King Dinis) that traced their lineage back to Antiquity.

  • @exothermicforstability7915
    @exothermicforstability7915 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never been so early here. Keep up the good work man!

  • @thkempe
    @thkempe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know a guy who is a genetically proven descendant of a Bronze Age man whose bones were found in a nearby cave. So his ancestors go back 3000 years. Unfortunately, there is also a small gap of a few thousand years in the lineage.

  • @harrisonshone7769
    @harrisonshone7769 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The one exception to the Descent from Antiquity problem is China. A generation by generation family tree of the posterity of Confucius has been constructed, and is supported by DNA evidence. Some would also point to the Japanese Royal Family Tree, but that can only be traced back with any historical certainty to around the same time as most European royals.
    Also, even the Romans themselves were obsessed with Descent from Antiquity (e.g. before the Bronze Age Collapse, the Dark Age before our Dark Age). Many aristocratic Roman families claimed descent from the most-likely fictional Kings of Rome and the almost certainly fictional Romulus and Aeneas.

  • @thomasdixon4373
    @thomasdixon4373 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Been waiting for this vid all day, hey Matt could you do a vid on how John William Friso is connected to all the European monarchies

  • @VeracityLH
    @VeracityLH 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many thanks for the playlists! You've given me plenty to do this week. Cheers. :)

  • @federicosolla8922
    @federicosolla8922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting! Even if this is not a channel about historical geography but mainly about genealogies, may I suggest to cite also Belgium and Nederland when speaking about Austrasia?
    Also, I do not see any mention of Aquitaine, which was conquered by Clovis from the Visigoths, and was ruled by Merovingians for a while.

  • @jocelynejarero5617
    @jocelynejarero5617 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    currently working on a Merovingian bloodline project for homework and umm I was only supposed to use my textbook but now I’m here😅

  • @coquio
    @coquio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hi, I'm regular Deric
    Hi, I'm chill Deric

  • @Fl1mper
    @Fl1mper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Is a pre imperial romae, noble family chart being planned? Including old roman legends and so on...

  • @jitaamesuluma9730
    @jitaamesuluma9730 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so now i know why this line died out , they murdered their own , makes me ashammed of them, i was so thrilled when dna said i was both merovingian till i watched this , oh well still got carolingian , proud of charlemagne

    • @cahtshiri
      @cahtshiri 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That happened in many royal families over the centuries - it is what it is. No sense in judging them now. You're here, aren't you?

  • @SparrowValentine
    @SparrowValentine 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always. Amazing.

  • @ivydaniels1
    @ivydaniels1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome!! Great video!! I have a lot of studying to do.

  • @mlarson_69
    @mlarson_69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shakespeare's Henry the 5th starts out addressing this very same family lineage.....very interesting!

  • @darcygraystock4325
    @darcygraystock4325 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Amazing! I really enjoy these videos. Can I request an English monarch family tree pre-Alfred the Great? ⭐️

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be great, but wouldn't that be mostly legend? Not that it matters.

    • @darcygraystock4325
      @darcygraystock4325 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Axolotl - Guy Half and half. Alfred had some pretty rad ancestors. Could include kings of Mercia, East Anglia etc

  • @avantelvsitania3359
    @avantelvsitania3359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a great initiative, to bring more light to one of the most underrated times in (French) History. The Merovingians are basically seen as a distant legend, which only makes them more mysterious and interesting.

    • @brittakriep2938
      @brittakriep2938 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The ,Merowinger' are french??? The Frankish tribe is a german tribe, they have beaten my tribe, the Alemanic tribe in the battle of Zülpich 496. The Frankish tribesmen still live in the north oft my tribe in Germany. Not all members of the Frankish tribe moved to France.

    • @avantelvsitania3359
      @avantelvsitania3359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Britta Kriep first calm down. I never said they were French. I only said they are part of French History and that is just a fact.

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@avantelvsitania3359 Yes, but also part of Dutch, Belgium, Luxenbourgish, Catalan, Spanish, German, etc. 😂.

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@avantelvsitania3359 They were not at all French monarchs. And the closest pronounciation of the names would be in present they Dutch, not Getman btw.

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brittakriep2938 They weren't german etheir, they were Germanic. That's a BIG difference....

  • @codyj.braunva5406
    @codyj.braunva5406 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish this was for sale

  • @beautypablotamarini7315
    @beautypablotamarini7315 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So happy and greatful for this bcs very soon I'm going to be right there on the spot...Temse...Sint Niklaas...Aachen... where I meet ppl with same or similar names... 🏆✊🙋‍♀️feel so so good there☀️

  • @stephendean2896
    @stephendean2896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    House Atreides can trace their family lineage back to senatorial families of Rome.
    Long live the fighters of arrakis.