I think the peak thiem was 2019 and 2020 specially atp world tour finals 2019 amd 2020 aus open .... He was magical to watch so athletic would reach out for most balls ....amazing forehand one of the best backhand .... Its really sad to see him go this early
Dominic Thiem’s story is so similar to Juan Martin Del Potro. Won that first slam at the U.S. Open and suffered an injury that derailed their career. Del Potro did have a second career that was good but not great. All the best to Thiem. Great competitor and human being.
Thiem was awesome and a great person. The challenge for his style of play and that of Alcaraz is that it is very hard on the body. Only Nadal has managed to get away with a relentless style of play for a long period of time.
@@rogerarnold7 true that. In an interview Thiem actually said that he was a far more cautious player as a youngster, maybe somethin like the version we saw the last few years. He said he's a nice guy by nature and it took Günter Bresnik to turn him into the ruthless baseliner he became
I remember that US open. Had Novak not hit the lineswoman in the throat there is an argument he would have gone all the way to that final and already have won 25.
@served with andy roddick, I feel like there is conversation out there about you retiring a bit early...especially when you see guys playing into their upper 30s....but, what say you? It was your career/life.
Thiem's game - given his size - was incredibly hard on his body. All these one hander guys with the crushing backhands - it's REALLY hard on your arm. And, the windup is to massive for his backhand, it's physically tiring on the whole shoulder. In our current era, the one handed backhand is a target - wear the guys arm out. Look at what Nadal did to Federer, Dimitrov, Tsitsipas and Wawrinka. Early in his career, in a weird way, on clay, Nadal cared more about pulverizing his opponent - than scoring effectively. Borg did the same thing with Harold Solomon, Eddie Dibbs, Orantes & Vilas.
Tennis is brutal. Losing Söderling, Thiem, Del Potro etc. to illness/injury is truly sad. I'd like to see less matches on hard courts more on grass. The only matches in male slams that should go to five sets are the semis and/or finals. The guy's side is too attritional with levels of athleticism so high and too much time on court.
We're seeing this in other sports too and it is ruining the product for fans. Season ending and career ending injuries due to too much time on court are so devastating. I support everything you suggested here. At the end of the day people pay to see star players play so we need to keep them healthy.
@@SK-qu4wo Totally, but tennis is one of the few sports that a match can last many hours and uses upper and lower body, speed, ability and strength and stamina. Watching the first 20 mins of Murray Djokovic in the U.S. Open final it's amazing both aren't significantly injured.
Love your podcast Andy, We are all sorry and sad to hear about your condition and we all hope treatment will work, quickly, we all also hope that you and your family are doing well. NGL you kinda have deadpool vibes, sorry. Thiem is underrated, and yes that USO final was the worst and shittest final, mens or womens that I have ever seen.
WG acted like an A**! She knows NOTHING about tennis. In that particular situation with Thiem, Serena acted like a jerk; Thiem, as always, was a class act.
@2:24 I heard about this a lot - from being the ugliest final to lowest viewership... but why? Didnt get to watch the match in full, so wonder why? I know zverev lost the 2-0 lead, but why was it ugly? I would think it should have been exciting, that Thiem was able to turn the tables. I was rooting for Sasha though
I think its more mental for Dominic; he rushed into the roland garros the same year he won US Open. Rafa deliberately didn't play the US Open for that reason so i think he put unnecessary stress since that was his best surface. He also stopped playing and took a mental break i think after the lost to dmitrov in australia which was shocking. Sadly he was the only one out of his group that the big 3 feared and fell short in the two ATP finals. He lost both finals after he made room for stephanos and danil when he took out the giants. So clearly its more a mental thing and the only reason why the US open finals felt that way is because of the crowd. Its hard to watch him play now as he cannot get the ball deep anymore and there is no weight on his shot. Sadly he should have taken a couple years off to heal but i guess its difficult to make that decision when you want to compete. Job well done and he will be missed
Ugliest GS men’s final has to be Korda vs Rios AO ‘98. Korea’s level was low and Rios was HORRIBLE. That one is far worse than Thiem/Zverev USO with no crows
Not a poor analysis at all, Andy just boiled it down to the essentials. The rest is fluff. The lack of his forehand power made him vulnerable on the backhand side, yes he can grinfäd but defense wasn't what set his game apart.
The human body can only take so much. Dominic was playing great tennis way above his pay grade. You're asking too much of your body to produce at these high levels time and time again. This retirement is really not all that surprising.
Love Dominic Thiem, my favorite male tennis player very humble respectful. Let’s trust that bigger things are ahead!!
I named my cat after Dominic, love him, what a one hander ... all the best for the next chapter of his life
My orange cat is named Boris.
I think the peak thiem was 2019 and 2020 specially atp world tour finals 2019 amd 2020 aus open ....
He was magical to watch so athletic would reach out for most balls ....amazing forehand one of the best backhand ....
Its really sad to see him go this early
Dominic is heavily involved in environmental and conservation causes. I believe he will take up a career in that field 😊
Thiem was my favorite. That US Open Covid win was a huge underrated accomplishment.
Love Dominic, sad it ended like this
👏so well put andy! i'd wish the austrian crowd and media would appreciate his mindset and effort like you guys do, it's sad😢
Dominic Thiem’s story is so similar to Juan Martin Del Potro. Won that first slam at the U.S. Open and suffered an injury that derailed their career.
Del Potro did have a second career that was good but not great.
All the best to Thiem. Great competitor and human being.
Maaaan, the way I loved Delpo.
Thiem was also magic on the tennis court. Always a great attitude.
I remember it being said pre US Open win that he needed to learn to manage his schedule, playing every week.
Andy, hope you heal up soon.
what happened
UFC
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Apparently he's been battling skin cancer on his face?
hope you are okkkk ✨
Thiem has the second best one hander in history. The only one who has a better one is Wawrinka.
If Wawrinka's backhand was that good he would've had a better record against the big 3
Not mentioning a guy who has won 20 slams is a bit … odd
I hope you heal faster 😢
Thiem was awesome and a great person. The challenge for his style of play and that of Alcaraz is that it is very hard on the body. Only Nadal has managed to get away with a relentless style of play for a long period of time.
He was a more aggressive player than Nadal though.
@@al1976-v7m Aggressive on offense but not as aggressive on defense. Both have styles that are ruthless on the body.
@@rogerarnold7 true that. In an interview Thiem actually said that he was a far more cautious player as a youngster, maybe somethin like the version we saw the last few years. He said he's a nice guy by nature and it took Günter Bresnik to turn him into the ruthless baseliner he became
I remember that US open. Had Novak not hit the lineswoman in the throat there is an argument he would have gone all the way to that final and already have won 25.
Everyone needs to get skin checked by dermatologists. Skin cancer is no joke. I love these podcasts.
@served with andy roddick, I feel like there is conversation out there about you retiring a bit early...especially when you see guys playing into their upper 30s....but, what say you? It was your career/life.
Not a word about Diego Schwartzman's retirement announcement???
1:08 So THAT'S what happened to his 03-04 forehand.
I always wonder why that was! I’ve seen hundreds of comments on different TH-cam videos wondering why Rodrick’s forehand changed so much!
4:15 Well... Nicky Kyrgios used to LOVE to take shots at him about his personality. Something about watching paint dry lol
Sad news indeed! Austrian tennis has been marred and snake bit, over the years, Thomas Muster Dominic Thiem
This is the next phase of They LIve
Wow such sad news, a real shocker, very talented but alas such a short career.
Thiem's game - given his size - was incredibly hard on his body. All these one hander guys with the crushing backhands - it's REALLY hard on your arm. And, the windup is to massive for his backhand, it's physically tiring on the whole shoulder. In our current era, the one handed backhand is a target - wear the guys arm out. Look at what Nadal did to Federer, Dimitrov, Tsitsipas and Wawrinka. Early in his career, in a weird way, on clay, Nadal cared more about pulverizing his opponent - than scoring effectively. Borg did the same thing with Harold Solomon, Eddie Dibbs, Orantes & Vilas.
Did I miss the episode that Andy tells us what happen to him?
He had skin cancer, and not for the first time, if i am not mistaken.
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Roddick threw hands? Looks like it was him that fought Usyk yesterday..
Looks like he got micro needling done
Skin cancer treatment. He made a PSA a couple weeks ago on the show
Woops
Hope Andy Roddick good recovery from skin issues.get well soon bro ❤❤❤
I believe the added lead weight strips to his racquet and his heavy blue collar rallies lead to his wrist problem….
Tennis is brutal. Losing Söderling, Thiem, Del Potro etc. to illness/injury is truly sad.
I'd like to see less matches on hard courts more on grass. The only matches in male slams that should go to five sets are the semis and/or finals. The guy's side is too attritional with levels of athleticism so high and too much time on court.
We're seeing this in other sports too and it is ruining the product for fans. Season ending and career ending injuries due to too much time on court are so devastating. I support everything you suggested here. At the end of the day people pay to see star players play so we need to keep them healthy.
@@SK-qu4wo Totally, but tennis is one of the few sports that a match can last many hours and uses upper and lower body, speed, ability and strength and stamina. Watching the first 20 mins of Murray Djokovic in the U.S. Open final it's amazing both aren't significantly injured.
Love your podcast Andy, We are all sorry and sad to hear about your condition and we all hope treatment will work, quickly, we all also hope that you and your family are doing well.
NGL you kinda have deadpool vibes, sorry.
Thiem is underrated, and yes that USO final was the worst and shittest final, mens or womens that I have ever seen.
WG acted like an A**! She knows NOTHING about tennis. In that particular situation with Thiem, Serena acted like a jerk; Thiem, as always, was a class act.
Andy, what's up with the sun burn?
cancer
@2:24 I heard about this a lot - from being the ugliest final to lowest viewership... but why? Didnt get to watch the match in full, so wonder why? I know zverev lost the 2-0 lead, but why was it ugly? I would think it should have been exciting, that Thiem was able to turn the tables. I was rooting for Sasha though
I think its more mental for Dominic; he rushed into the roland garros the same year he won US Open. Rafa deliberately didn't play the US Open for that reason so i think he put unnecessary stress since that was his best surface. He also stopped playing and took a mental break i think after the lost to dmitrov in australia which was shocking. Sadly he was the only one out of his group that the big 3 feared and fell short in the two ATP finals. He lost both finals after he made room for stephanos and danil when he took out the giants. So clearly its more a mental thing and the only reason why the US open finals felt that way is because of the crowd. Its hard to watch him play now as he cannot get the ball deep anymore and there is no weight on his shot. Sadly he should have taken a couple years off to heal but i guess its difficult to make that decision when you want to compete. Job well done and he will be missed
Bro what happened to your face you got tanned in saudi arabia ?
He's been treated for skin cancer man.
@@al1976-v7m uhh im sorry for him didn't know at all
Treating your sun damaged skin , I see. Good. It’s important to look after yourself
Ugliest GS men’s final has to be Korda vs Rios AO ‘98. Korea’s level was low and Rios was HORRIBLE. That one is far worse than Thiem/Zverev USO with no crows
what happened to your face Andy?
cancerous
What's up with your cheekbones, Andy? Looks like you've spent too long in the sun and got a bit burnt
Very poor analysis of Thiem. So lacking in any real subject knowledge. Gill Gross gave a much richer analysis.
How so?
Andy praised him highly and I agree, nothing poor about the analysis of Thiem here!
Not a poor analysis at all, Andy just boiled it down to the essentials. The rest is fluff. The lack of his forehand power made him vulnerable on the backhand side, yes he can grinfäd but defense wasn't what set his game apart.
What's going on with Andy Roddick? He looks like an overripe strawberry.
The human body can only take so much. Dominic was playing great tennis way above his pay grade. You're asking too much of your body to produce at these high levels time and time again. This retirement is really not all that surprising.