I think you should know, Bipolar is very very different from a personality disorder. I'm slightly dissapointed you didn't research this more! As someone with bpd, I'm tired of people mixing bipolar and borderline up! They are very different and come from very different sources. Please correct this!
i didnt mix up bipolar with bpd. a source i used incorrectly labeled bipolar as a personality disorder, i didnt think to fact check since id known the source to be credible. my mistake, pinning so people stop commenting the same thing over and over lol
@@graysonsprojects thank you for owning up to your mistake. Most don't and would just bury this comment. I would suggest in the future to rely on more than just one source - especially a source who is just regurgitating content instead of actually coming from the horse's mouth (such as a medical professional). But yeah, realising your mistake is a huge step, so thanks 👏
I actually also found a lot of sites calling it a personality disorder, for example Banner Health ("Bipolar disorder, also known as manic depressive disorder, is a type of personality disorder where mood swings can range from extreme highs to extreme lows. The two sides of bipolar disorders are called mania (extreme high) and depressive (extreme low). ")
as someone professionally diagnosed with and coping with both -- can someone explain to me aside from Grayson slipping up and pedantic why this would be detrimental whatsoever to bpd or people with personality disorders? professionals are who more often misdiagnose pwBPD with bipolar 2, I genuinely do not see or experience people mixing them up aside from honest mistakes. ALSO can anyone explain to me why you think they come from "very very different sources" and are "very very different"? again, as someone with Bipolar 1 and BPD. Psychology is a subjective science and both Bipolar and BPD have research pointing to childhood trauma, environmental factors and genetics all being risk factors.... if anything also wouldn't this be more ""detrimental"" to the bipolar community since by and large bpd has more stigma associated with it historically and presently? what is the problem here? how is this a problem nonetheless an exhausting one? they said personality disorder instead of mood disorder accidentally..
i am so not a kardashian fan but kim has been handling this amazingly, she's not taking the bait, she's minding her business and doing what's best for her and her kids. Ye is long past the point of someone needing to force him to get help, THE MAN TRIED TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.
i also feel bad for the children in this situation. having parents that are divorced and argue a lot is hard, but when your parents are massive celebrities and all of this is publicized??!!? when their kids are older they're gonna hear about what their dad has said online about their mother. imagine the effect that is going to have on them. i feel so bad for their kids.
Ye *NEEDS* help, he is harassing Kim and some people just don’t understand that he is and see it as him trying to fight for his family. But the line was crossed when he “allegedly” prompted his fans to yell at Pete when in public which is dangerous as all hell! * Also what he is doing can be called post separation abuse…
his "fans" rather shit on Kim and talk about "female privilege" in the court system and Kims entire dating life Blablabla instead of the fact that Ye surely can't handle 4 kids at once or even get shit done. They'll be talking about how he can't see them even though he's the dad but Pete can see them and how his kids should not be on social media and that Kim doesn't do anything as she has 100 nannies..... I don't like her but she has patience that Ye doesn't have and they will rather discredit her than realise that even Ye can't handle the kids. Honestly these fans annoy the shit out of me. The same with Future fans, okay cool that he has idk 5 Baby Mamas but he ain't the great dad they say. Rappers stop by every other day and buy the kids shit and everyone is like, yoooo he's a cool dad. Him being a rapper or her being a "Kardashian" should not be the main focus, rather guy who is getting a divorce from his wife and kids being involved.
@@gansz_lol i think the fact that he is famous makes this worse than just angry divorced dad. It just takes one obssesive fan to cause some serious harm.
@@littleflick I hate the idea that mental illnesses is just an “excuse” it’s more than that. It’s a reason. We can acknowledge why someone is behaving the way they are without lessening the trauma their victims have to endure.
@@CM-rd5bi people with mental health issues still have autonomy over how they behave. Kanye isn’t stalking and harassing Kim because he is mentally ill. He is doing it because he thinks he is entitled to do so and that she and their children are his property.
As someone who is diagnosed Bipolar, him doing all of this just makes it harder for us as a whole. People already have stigmas about Bipolar and ppl throwing the word around like a joke, as if it’s not a crippling mental illness. If you are Bipolar and don’t want to be on meds, there are a million other things you can do to help with this illness. And Kanye has all the money in the world to do so but isn’t and he’s making his manic episodes and other things so public. It’s already hard enough being Bipolar, we don’t need this too. Bipolar isn’t an excuse for crappy actions
I’m also pretty sure that sometimes it’s not even that he’s having a manic episode (my sister has bipolar, so we’ve been through some stuff), but he uses the fact that he has it to be like “are you calling me crazy and dismissing me?”, making it hard to have a productive conversation/accountability in his case. having a mental illness is for sure an explanation for things, but it shouldn’t be used as an excuse to behave in shitty ways. I hope that makes sense
@@moonchild977 I dated a dude that would have manic episodes that were nothing short if horrific and what you said made absolute sense. People blame you for not being tolerant of their mental illnesses and try to draw your boundaries for you. Being mentally ill is not an excuse to avoid all responsibility for your actions. (I’m sure that’s not new news to you but this last year it was for me.)
Idk if publically having an illness makes it your responsibility to like be a spokesperson for that and handle it well. I’m also bipolar, so I deeeeefinitely agree and have had these conversations with people because it gets brought up more when he’s raging on socials. But the way I look at it, the nature of fame is so different now and the idea of accountability to a fan base/ the public for a celebrity is a fairly newer concept. I think there’s a lot of nuance in how we talk about mental illness and art and medication and health vs creativity, but at the end of the day he is just a guy who is sick, who isn’t doing his best. And I know I’ve had those days. I’m really glad I wasn’t famous for them. Not excusing his behavior at all, I think he’s being fucked, and needs to do better as a man and a father. Just not sure if the celebrity aspect of mental illness should be such a high standard. It is really interesting tho
@@moonchild977 my sister put it in a way I’d never heard before she told me “your reality is valid but it isn’t everyone else’s around you” granted, she went on to say some mean stuff but it helped me connect dots. A big thing for atleast me is that- if someone is explaining something and it is 100% the best thing, I think of it that way. I understand why they do, but the other person doesn’t understand why I won’t listen to them. He is probably feeling that right now, but it doesn’t excuse his terrifying actions. I hope he gets the help he needs. If that’s meds or therapy or whatever. For his kids sake before anyone elses
@@haligh.haligh I don’t think I wanted him to be a spokesperson or anything, tho it’s pretty undeniable that his behavior is not doing much for the stigma around bipolar, even if that’s not really his responsibility. I think he’s just doing something I’ve seen my sister do when she was first diagnosed - blame everything on bipolar and not trying to work on herself. I think that’s fairly common, and it’s fine, he’s just doing it on his massive platform, and there’s not really a way to stop him, so it is a nuanced situation for sure
Also the fact that he says that north can’t handle social media even though her mom is monitoring everything she does (the page is literally ran by her mom) While he goes on destructive tangents on his own insta is Beyond me.
Even highly monitored social media for an 8 year old is unsafe. also tik tok is not super secure and her ip address could be tracked. also children dont need social media.
Can't believe I'm defending Kanye's opinion on something but I think the one (1) thing he has said over the past months that I'd be inclined to agree with is that there's no way for an 8 yo to have a "safe" public social media presence no matter how much parental control is involved. The fact that he himself isn't using social media in a healthy way doesn't negate the negative impact social media has on young children.
I agree that kids don’t need social media, but his argument fell flat when after all this, he had his children on IG live. He’s either cherry picking or this is more about control than it is about his kids being on the platforms.
People need to call out his behavior for what it is: post-separation abuse and attempts at coercional control. I only hope this doesn’t end as too many cases do. I acknowledge the mental illness; I am married to a person who has bipolar mania. We battle with ineffective medications, therapy, and her intermittent resistance to treatment - a hallmark symptom of mental illness. Abusive behavior can absolutely be a symptom (or side effect) of mental illness, but where it happens it MUST be addressed. Someone needs to intervene before something tragic happens.
Bipolar is not a personality disorder, it's a mood disorder. Mental illness is an explanation for things in some cases, but ab*se is not among the symptoms of bipolar. Untreated bipolar can however exacerbate existing problematic behavioural tendencies. Especially when you have a large audience feeding your ego and delusion during a manic episode.
Exactly! Unregulated and assisted Bipolar disorder on top of him being one of the wealthiest people, on top of being misogynistic, on top of the death of his mother, just created a terrible swirl of toxicity.
@@mafumafumafu a *type* of personality disorder. Im diagnosed bipolar and have asked that question before and that’s literally what 2 psychiatrists gave told me
Also, abuse isn't included in personality disorders. I'm extremely tired of people including abuse as a symptom of personality disorders. The large majority of us aren't abusive. Abuse is a choice, not a symptom.
I'm bipolar, and honestly it's been hard seeing this representation of it, it makes me feel like he's damaging how people see bipolar people, but everyone's different - also it's not a personality disorder it's a mood disorder
I hear what you're saying and can understand why you feel that way. But please remember, hes not required to act like role model when hes being himself. When hes doing this all over insta hes not working hes in his personal life and allowed to act without thinking about being a role model. It would be better for him and everyone if he could but hes quite clearly just going through the motions of his personal life like we all do
@@alexh99 hes actively trying to manipulate his fan base and is being pretty abusive don't chalk it up to "he's in his personal life" as a famous person its his responsibility to be aware of what he's spreading to a massive fan base. Especially when its perpetuating abusive behavior
I disagree with this sentiment but I hear you. I think the problem is people mixing up actual abuse and symptoms of mental illness. Abuse is still a choice, mental illness can drive it but it is mostly a choice. He isn't required to be a figure for all bipolar people though. He SHOULD be a better person, but it's not his job to represent you. It's really society's job to recognize that bp isn't the same for everyone.
this situation has made me respect kim a LOT. she’s been dealing with kanye’s outbursts behind closed doors and she’s never insulted him publicly no matter what awful things he has said
Women die to men behaving like Ye all the time. The only reason it’s an “internet drama” that we can discuss with nuance is because Kim is rich. If this was anyone but Kim K no one would look at Ye’s actions as “complicated”. They would be afraid for her life.
he literally bought a house across the street from her, like that's scary. it's also scary to see how many of his male fans think his behaviour is funny. Kim better take his ass to court, and if she doesn't then Pete should
Exactly!! So many people are just blaming Kim and talking about her previous divorces, how "it's just a tactic for her show and publicity", and saying it's her that's the problem and she curated this all when it's OBVIOUS ye is the problem here, has been for years, and he's acting scary as hellllll 😬😬😓😓
I’ve always had slight compassion for him because of his mental health. That being said, something I preach is: You may not be responsible for your mental health disorder(s), but you are responsible for seeking effective treatment. I’m diagnosed with an array of disorders, one of them being bipolar 2. I cannot articulate how much I appreciate the value my mood stabilizers have added to my quality of life. If anything, let this serve as a reminder to take your meds 🥴
From my experience as a mental health professional and as a black woman I just wanted you to know that getting mental health services is not always supported in the black community and for some it is discouraged. A lot of black people , especially black men, feel shame about needing mental health services and will not seek help. Even though mental health is more accepted there is still a lot of stigma surrounding it. I don’t think what he is doing is right or should be excused but I thought this was a another aspect of the situation.
I agree, however, I feel like once you hit a certain status and have millions in the bank and harass your ex wife, feeling shame should no longer be seen as an excuse. You have the means to get the help and you are putting people in danger because of your pride, that's just stupid. A lot of men don't get help because they're ashamed to do so and they end up killing women, r*ping women etc. I will not feel bad for men who don't want to get help and hurt other people.
I am much older than you and live in olympia, Washington… way back in the early 1990’s there was an incident where this guy was feeling up on a woman who was clearly too intoxicated to know what was happening. A little known local act called Nirvana was on stage, saw it, and their lead singer and bassist started yelling at the guy, eventually coming off the stage to forcibly escort the douche king out. Musicians have most definitely been checking on fans during events long before the Travis Scott incident. If anything, Astroworld was the outlier.
@@miminaomi9844 I didn’t even know who he was when it first happened, but having researched him since… he’s kind of an evil genius. He freaking weaponized social media farming or whatever for call it and made it into real money. I’d be impressed if it weren’t another example of an evil mofo getting one over again. 👿
This situation is very scary and very sad. If my best friend told me her ex was doing what Ye is doing to Kim I would be trying to hide her because I would genuinely be afraid for her safety.
I grew up never knowing one of my grandfathers because he went through a similar mental health crisis nigh on 50 year ago. I dont know exactly what was wrong with him, but what stories Ive been told about his behavior have a startling similarity to Kanye's. So I feel an immense amount of sympathy for not only Kim K, a woman who is being forced to endure what someone like my grandma only had to suffer in private, and their children. This is something which should not be public, especially when it's being openly mocked and memed.
That’s his problem, if he can’t take the time to process himself for the greater good, he’s still responsible for how he behaves and acts out. He’s also a parent now, not a little boy. If you don’t deal with your hurt, you’re going to hurt people. Intentional or not. It’s simply no excuse, people are different on how they manage grief. Only some let the grief manage them. Edit: Grief never goes away, and there are times where it eats you alive like you’re back on square one. You can live with it, I know people who have lost their mom and CHOOSE to be a good person while acknowledging that person is still alive in their precious memories. It depends on how you MANAGE grief, and yourself. If one falls the other will go with it.
I love how much more laid back this video of yours is, I've been watching a lot of commentary channels and the "okay don't take this the wrong way im not trying to be problematic" warnings before every sentence were getting on my nervesss, anyway been loving your channel since the beginning keep doing what you're doing queen
Off topic a bit, but that cycle chart you made at 19:05 was such a quick effective way of explaining nuance, as someone who doesn't retain info well it was a great way to sum up the situation :) Love your videos!
By the way, bipolar disorder is NOT a personality disorder. It's a mood disorder. It's in the same range as depression and anxiety. Bipolar disorder does not make someone abuse another person or manipulate people. He is at full fault for his actions. Please do not put his actions on bipolar disorder. This is definitely something else. Edit: I just wanted to correct my statement. As someone pointed out anxiety is not a mood disorder, but instead deals with a feeling. Moods are pervasive and long-lasting, while feelings are fleeting and usually last for a few minutes (I believe). Feelings can be curved while moods are not as easy to change. A feeling and a mood are different things within psychology. We should definitely create a conversation in this thread to encourage a better education on mood disorders vs. personality disorders.
Anxiety disorders are not considered mood disorders either, ijs! Anxiety is a feeling, and can definitely be comorbid with and exacerbated by mood disorders (and vice versa), but they're not classified together in the same group.
@@fioregiallo hmm ok, I believe that you are right. I just always grouped them together, mentally, because of how common they pair together. Moods and feelings are definitely different. Thank you for the correction
Are you insinuating personality disorders make people abusive?? Because that is objectively false and incredibly ableist. As someone with suspected borderline I would NEVER abuse someone, ever, and that’s a gross statement to make.
@@alexb4185 Ok, the personality disorders that I'm insinuating are Narcissitic personality disorders and Anti Social Personality disorders. I hope that helped you understand what I was talking about
his behavior is awful for stigma around bipolar disorder. i’m diagnosed bipolar 2 and while i can sympathize with ye’s behavior, it is really really unfortunate that his outbursts have been posted on his platform for all to see.
"Bipolar disorder, also known as manic depressive disorder, is a type of personality disorder where mood swings can range from extreme highs to extreme lows. The two sides of bipolar disorders are called mania (extreme high) and depressive (extreme low)."
It’s funny bc Kanye has a mood disorder (bipolar) and Pete Davidson has a personality disorder (bpd). It’s interesting to see Pete not react to Kanye like at all. As someone with bpd I admire his strength and use of his skills to actually refrain from engaging (bc it would definitely be a trigger to be attacked like that imo!)
BPD is more responsive to medication and therapy than Bipolar is, specially bipolar 1. Pete is a medicated bpd patient, that may be why he is calmly taking this. Bipolar people even when medicated with a combination of meds that seem to work , still suffer from mania, depression, and psychotic episodes. Its sad but it is very likely that a big portion of bipolar patients might never be able to control their disorder, that might be the case for him.
I personally was told by my psychiatrist that medication is not a solid form of treatment for BPD (though it can help) it is not recognised as a treatment compared to Bipolar which is mainly treated by meds. Though I do agree that therapy greatly helps and you can lessen your symptoms enough that you no longer suit the bpd diagnosis (unlike bipolar which you cannot). It depends how responsive the patient is to therapy tho which a lot of bpd patients aren’t
@@smilegreene9929 Thats is true, bpd patients dont usually get treated with ONLY medication since most dont respond to it (some psychiatrist do medicate bpd) , but therapy is the most effective treatment for bpd patients, bipolar people are more likely to respond to meds than therapy, however statistically bpd patients respond much better to therapy than bipolar people to meds. My general hypothesis is that since bpd develops from trauma and fear of abandonment, bpd patients deal with more "logical" responses to triggers (they have reasons that can be understood more easily even if the abandonment is not real), while bipolar people have no "logical" reason to become psychotic, manic, or depressive, instead they respond quite randomly and with no apparent reason and control (neurological dysfunctions) so that may be why even when medicated and going to therapy, people like Kanye appear way more erratic and chaotic (also a lot less reasonable) than someone like Pete who appears more calm, logical, and not narcissistic (bpd doesn't have strong narc tendencies like bipolar does). Kanye is not in treatment right now, but he has been in the past many times and still had meltdowns.
@@bellami9605 a lot us don’t have “logical” responses to triggers… I don’t know how you think you have the authority to dictate that. Are you diagnosed with either or are you a psychiatrist? Otherwise I don’t really think that we should be dictating what are an aren’t viable treatment methods. I also don’t think that we should be comparing mental illnesses on what is worse or better. I think that that creates competition (especially in people with bpd) to be “worse” and can lead to more SH behaviours in order to be sick enough. I also don’t really understand what your messages have to do with my initial stance since I was congratulating Pete on his use of DBT skills to avoid conflict, I don’t know if you realise how difficult and how much effort that would be for him. I’m not shaming Kanye in anyway, as I do know he isn’t in treatment at this time and isn’t functioning as healthily as he could. This comment was meant to be applauding Pete and his efforts.
Something I’ve been thinking about a lot in regards to conspiratorial thought being particularly associated with certain political affiliations and beliefs is that synthesizing (making those conspiratorial connections, Hillary Clinton was whispering in Kim’s ear while Disney was telling Pete what to do, as an example) is something someone does when their beliefs about themselves are in tension with reality, but they can’t self-reflect or change those beliefs. For example, if your wife leaves you and seems to move on quickly, it’s easier to say “this is because these politicians hate me and have told her I’m a bad influence or unstable” than to say “the state of my mental health has threatened the wellbeing of my relationship and my wife is unhappy with where we’re at right now, I need to get myself and my view of this relationship with her in order so that I can show her I want to collaborate on this separation to make it as peaceful as possible.” EDIT: It’s work all people gotta do!! I’ve had to check in with myself about how much I’m holding others responsible for situations and how much I hold myself responsible for them. I just find that conspiracies are what happen when you can’t take ANY responsibility on for something but there’s very little other rational explanation. It’s a coping mechanism to protect yourself from feeling threatened by critique, taken way too far into maladaptive behavior.
Honestly this situation really hits home for me. My dad is bipolar and my mom divorced him when I was 9 and he acted (and still acts) very similarly to Ye. When I first saw everything happening and saw so many people in his comments fueling him it made me so uncomfortable, my dad also blatantly refuses help and it's so disheartening to see people encourage it. I feel so bad for their kids most especially with how publicized it is, although I went through a very smiler situation I cannot imagine it being for all eyes to see. I truly hope he can get the help he deserves.
YES! I'm so glad u brought up the j aubrey video about kanye ! Another video that I found very insightful was f.d. signifier's video on him its breaks down the situation really well !
as someone with bipolar, yes it's hard. but his actions aren't all his mental illness. his refusal to get help, and continued harassment of Kim are all on him. a manic episode only lasts so long, and when he comes down he needs to realize that his life can't keep going on like this.
Omg I haven't seen the civil war poster. Let me tell you I laughed so hard that I died and went straight to hell when I was like "is that Taylor Swift??" And turned my phone to see that it was indeed Taylor Swift. Omg. Priceless.
Have you guys also noticed that he RARELY speaks of his other children? Other than the Chicago’s birthday party incident and the filter thing the other day, he only talks about NORTH. It’s really strange…almost like he acknowledges her because people calls her his twin which would correlate to his narcissistic behavior. Only heard him mention saint once. And quite literally have never heard him talk about psalm.
It’s very strange, not only that, but one thing I never understand is his double standard of North. for example, he has no problem taking and parading his young daughter all over Paris at fashion shows, but won’t allow her to have a tiktok. I think he has this odd attachment and possessiveness on north and what she can and cannot do. You are right I can not think of one time he has talked about his children…
"I be worrying about North and i be worrying about Kim, but Saint is baby Ye, im not worried about him" - Kanye West on his song Saint Pablo said this.
He doesn’t need to tell the public about his children all the time. For all you know he could talk about his children equally behind closed doors. North is his first child so I don’t see how that makes him narcissistic to “talk about her more”
I loved that you talked about Julia Fox and the misogyny behind everyone hating on her (or on Kim)!! I also think she's sooo cool, it's crazy to me why everyone hates her. But then again, in the last decade everyone was faster to sympathize w Kanye than w Kim for gender reasons, so.....
seeing so many people enable this shit because they don't like the karjenners is disgusting. people need to understand that you can not like someone and STILL think they don't deserve to be treated the way kanye is treating kim.
As soon as your group chat notification bell rang and your face zoomed in, I got a home depot ad and idky but listening to the home depot theme right after that cracks me up so hard
As a Ye fan, I approve of this video. I feel that the majority of his fans feel like his problems are theirs, and that's what I don't like about Ye fans. It's honestly frustrating. I just want him to take a break from everything. Like, a year, or something, idk. I need Donda 2 to be the last album from him for another 2 years. In conclusion, Ye needs help.
Highly unrelated but your opening card reminds me of this one time I did acid and got stuck staring at vintage posters of mushrooms and anatomy and flowers for literal hours and I’ve always found it weirdly comforting
i was never a fan but i did enjoy his music when i listened to him w my dad, his recent behavior has been very worrying :/ very interested in your commentary on this topic !
Tbh I'm not familiar with Julia, but her post about being unaffected and hustling Ye rubbed me the wrong way. To some extent I wouldn't be upset about her just using him to get money and clothes, get ur bag girl, but doing it while he's in a manic episode feels kinda of explotive to me. It's not completely on her ig since his team is there and they're cosigning this behavior but it feels kind of fucked, especially since it's common for people who are maniac to be really financially irresponsible. But then again he's a millionaire and a Birkin isn't gonna bankrupt him so 🤷🏾♀️ Tbh I feel bad for everyone involved, but especially towards Kim and her children. Trying to protect your daughters and their relationship with their father while he publicly drags you through the mud can't be easy. Ye says he cares for them and I don't doubt it, but he's doing more harm than good and some of his behavior is borderlining abusive. If he wasn't rich and famous he would've been sanctioned by now.
I totally understand what you mean … every post or comment I make talking about mental health, NPD, harassment and domestic abuse … I get a smidge nervous. But as women who cares about all women in 2022… we speak because we’re privileged AF to have a voice and so others who are enduring the same shit and don’t have the means to get away … that we stand in solidarity with them ♥️🤘🏻⚡️
Huge fan of Kanye, i think that man's music has helped through some of the worst moments in my life, however, his latest antics while not as loud as his Trump antics, where much more problematic. Harassing his ex-wife and her current partner on social media, threatening violence towards Pete, inciting harassment of Pete to his dumbass followers and forcing grandiose gestures of "love" onto Kim as well. Overall, his behavior should be called out and the guy needs some serious professional help pronto. Great video breaking down that behavior though.
I don't know why, but you failed to mention that the account is Kim AND North's, the acc name is Kim and North, _it's in the name._ Kim can see anything her daughter does and posts. Ye had no leg to stand on from the beginning, as their daughter was being safely monitored by her mother. These details are important to mention for context.
It's so sad too cause watching Jeen-Yuhs really had me rooting for him cause he's so likable and Donda is such an amazing mother. Sad to see what he's turned into today.
Pre-Watched Thoughts: Kanye recently needs to be held accountable and his stanbase needs to stop rushing to his defense every time he gets involved in controversy HOWEVER As far as I know, Kanye is known to reject professional help as most severely ill people would do when in denial. I don't believe he has a team of people with his best interest in mind. Somebody NEEDS to get/convince him to get severe mental/medicative treatment, whether he likes it or not, or he's going to end up unintentionally harming himself AND his family way worse than he could be doing now
I believe they have done everything to help him. Kim, Kim's family, his own family. Even Jayz and Beyonce have stepped in bc they consider kanye family. If he refuses, theres nothing that can be done unfortunately.
Stfu your not ye y'all shit females who don't have any mental health PhD or anything label him as mad and crazy isn't he allowed to be mad or rant about something with out it being mental health this proves the white woman in they end will always win
He was on meds for an entire year in 2019 and it definetely affected his music and even reflected in the interviews. Sadly he believes prioritising creativity over health and that's the sad part
It is crazy how similar Ye's tweets and social media interactions are to my father's texts to me and my sister (my dad is manic-depressed, narcissistic and has a slew of other disorders, and hes also a trump supporter). It's crazy how familiar it feels and I feel so much for Kim and the kids. I hope they are doing well
If he took his medication, and actually tried to change as a person, Kim probably wouldn’t have divorced him. You have seen times where he has treated her horribly.
When his team made the apology post on his IG I actually bought it and thought he'll stop posting but then not even a full day after you see a full blown all caps post and you know shit didn't change at all💀💀
I appreciate your commentary on this, I think the general attitude of believing Kanye is “harmless”, a meme or god forbid sympathetic is dangerous. A man having a public mental health crisis shouldn’t be shamed, but harassing your ex and children despite clear signs of wanting to be left alone is dangerous and I don’t think most people would take it seriously unless he does something to try to physically assault Kim.
ooooo i’m looking forward to watching this one! i’ve seen a bunch of people i know joke about it and i don’t know the details but the situation is pretty concerning to me. his posts were just. Yikes. anyway u look great!!
woah, i saw you made a comment about doing a ye video in the future on your second channel, didnt think it would be so soon but i’m pleasantly surprised! thank you for the great content, it’s greatly appreciated!
I really hope Ye gets help before his relationship with Kim (not any potential romantic relationship but just his co-parenting relationship) and his relationship with his kids are permanently damaged. Cause that definitely feels like where hes headed if hes not there already. It's obvious that's not what he wants and I honestly doubt that's what Kim wants either. I wish the best for Ye and I have serious respect for how Kim has handled things.
I'd like to add that a lot of people are unhappy with Julia Fox because her relationship with Ye could be interpreted as enabling his behavior. There's also speculation that this is a clout chasing move as Fox had history of using her dominatrix job to "network" with wealthy, prestigious men, BUT. There's more nuance to that particular take, especially since it isn't a proven fact, probably regarding the misogyny that you mentioned.
Grayson you always handle every topic with such care and nuance in a way that's not often seen on TH-cam, plus I always find myself agreeing with every word you say lmao
Yeah. I’m bipolar as well. It’s not a personality disorder. It’s a mood disorder. Ye isn’t acting like this just because he’s bipolar. He’s acting like this because he’s a piece of shit. I worry for Kim’s safety.
It's sad that people often confuse his shitty behavior for his bipolar disorder.... It adds more stigma to a group of people who don't actually act like he does
Wow u must know everything about him. I'm not defending him but mental illness shows itself in various types of ways depending on the individual. It may as well be his being a pos but it could also be that his mental illness has manifested in that wau
correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't pete also suffer from bipolar disorder? and he is not harassing Ariana or any other woman he's dated? I just don't understand how people use mental health as an excuse
While I don’t care for the Kardashian family, I don’t want anything to happen to people who are, ultimately, innocent. Honestly the best move for Kim would be TO move. To go somewhere with a WPP thing, Kanye is definitely NOT listening and he’s completely gone.
Good video! I want to do my own response to Kanye's actions as someone who has bipolar I (which is the one with mania and psychotic symptoms), and I'll use this video as a reference. However just a couple corrections: - Bipolar Affective Disorder is not a personality disorder, it's a mood disorder - Kanye HAS bipolar, not "he is bipolar". People can be manic, depressed, cyclothymic, etc, but saying that someone "is" their mental illness reduces us to just that. While I know this is not your intention, it contributes to stigma. Loved this analysis beside those things!
@@isabelgraham4388 Yea I did enjoy his videos but it felts like his videos where explaining the public's perception of Ye and I think that I want to see a something examinining the man and his art a bit more.
Speaking of Julia Fox as just about a woman that was involved in something with Ye (her career and/or personality, or if she smart or not, talented or not really doesn’t matter now): she got her moment, her promotion, new damn wardrobe 😂 Good for her is what I can say. You know that a person who can switch from working at a pastry shop to being a dominatrix is ready for some crazy changes in their life.
I think you should know, Bipolar is very very different from a personality disorder. I'm slightly dissapointed you didn't research this more! As someone with bpd, I'm tired of people mixing bipolar and borderline up! They are very different and come from very different sources. Please correct this!
i didnt mix up bipolar with bpd. a source i used incorrectly labeled bipolar as a personality disorder, i didnt think to fact check since id known the source to be credible. my mistake, pinning so people stop commenting the same thing over and over lol
@@graysonsprojects thank you for owning up to your mistake. Most don't and would just bury this comment. I would suggest in the future to rely on more than just one source - especially a source who is just regurgitating content instead of actually coming from the horse's mouth (such as a medical professional). But yeah, realising your mistake is a huge step, so thanks 👏
I actually also found a lot of sites calling it a personality disorder, for example Banner Health ("Bipolar disorder, also known as manic depressive disorder, is a type of personality disorder where mood swings can range from extreme highs to extreme lows. The two sides of bipolar disorders are called mania (extreme high) and depressive (extreme low). ")
as someone professionally diagnosed with and coping with both -- can someone explain to me aside from Grayson slipping up and pedantic why this would be detrimental whatsoever to bpd or people with personality disorders?
professionals are who more often misdiagnose pwBPD with bipolar 2, I genuinely do not see or experience people mixing them up aside from honest mistakes.
ALSO can anyone explain to me why you think they come from "very very different sources" and are "very very different"? again, as someone with Bipolar 1 and BPD. Psychology is a subjective science and both Bipolar and BPD have research pointing to childhood trauma, environmental factors and genetics all being risk factors....
if anything also wouldn't this be more ""detrimental"" to the bipolar community since by and large bpd has more stigma associated with it historically and presently? what is the problem here?
how is this a problem nonetheless an exhausting one? they said personality disorder instead of mood disorder accidentally..
As someone with BPD as well, it also bothered me a lot
i am so not a kardashian fan but kim has been handling this amazingly, she's not taking the bait, she's minding her business and doing what's best for her and her kids. Ye is long past the point of someone needing to force him to get help, THE MAN TRIED TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.
@@lucan9750 he can’t even handle a divorce…y’all think he’d be able to handle an entire country?
@@junebugsjukebox for real, he can't even keep personal family disputes private! co parenting issues with kim don't belong on instagram!
@@jenniferlynnkarr imagine trumps twitter but instead of twitter it’s on Instagram and its 15x worse.
She likely has good PR team handling this. Kanye thinks he's above all and doesn't need a PR team.
It's almost like she knows what its like being part of a family of narcissists
i also feel bad for the children in this situation. having parents that are divorced and argue a lot is hard, but when your parents are massive celebrities and all of this is publicized??!!? when their kids are older they're gonna hear about what their dad has said online about their mother. imagine the effect that is going to have on them. i feel so bad for their kids.
Kids also aren't dumb they probably do know this stuff is going on right now and it's already damaging them
Ye *NEEDS* help, he is harassing Kim and some people just don’t understand that he is and see it as him trying to fight for his family. But the line was crossed when he “allegedly” prompted his fans to yell at Pete when in public which is dangerous as all hell!
* Also what he is doing can be called post separation abuse…
It’s 100% abuse. I can’t understand how some people can stand by him through this. I understand he has mental health issues, but it’s not an excuse.
his "fans" rather shit on Kim and talk about "female privilege" in the court system and Kims entire dating life Blablabla instead of the fact that Ye surely can't handle 4 kids at once or even get shit done. They'll be talking about how he can't see them even though he's the dad but Pete can see them and how his kids should not be on social media and that Kim doesn't do anything as she has 100 nannies.....
I don't like her but she has patience that Ye doesn't have and they will rather discredit her than realise that even Ye can't handle the kids. Honestly these fans annoy the shit out of me. The same with Future fans, okay cool that he has idk 5 Baby Mamas but he ain't the great dad they say. Rappers stop by every other day and buy the kids shit and everyone is like, yoooo he's a cool dad.
Him being a rapper or her being a "Kardashian" should not be the main focus, rather guy who is getting a divorce from his wife and kids being involved.
@@gansz_lol i think the fact that he is famous makes this worse than just angry divorced dad. It just takes one obssesive fan to cause some serious harm.
@@littleflick I hate the idea that mental illnesses is just an “excuse” it’s more than that. It’s a reason. We can acknowledge why someone is behaving the way they are without lessening the trauma their victims have to endure.
@@CM-rd5bi people with mental health issues still have autonomy over how they behave. Kanye isn’t stalking and harassing Kim because he is mentally ill. He is doing it because he thinks he is entitled to do so and that she and their children are his property.
As someone who is diagnosed Bipolar, him doing all of this just makes it harder for us as a whole. People already have stigmas about Bipolar and ppl throwing the word around like a joke, as if it’s not a crippling mental illness. If you are Bipolar and don’t want to be on meds, there are a million other things you can do to help with this illness. And Kanye has all the money in the world to do so but isn’t and he’s making his manic episodes and other things so public. It’s already hard enough being Bipolar, we don’t need this too. Bipolar isn’t an excuse for crappy actions
I’m also pretty sure that sometimes it’s not even that he’s having a manic episode (my sister has bipolar, so we’ve been through some stuff), but he uses the fact that he has it to be like “are you calling me crazy and dismissing me?”, making it hard to have a productive conversation/accountability in his case. having a mental illness is for sure an explanation for things, but it shouldn’t be used as an excuse to behave in shitty ways. I hope that makes sense
@@moonchild977 I dated a dude that would have manic episodes that were nothing short if horrific and what you said made absolute sense. People blame you for not being tolerant of their mental illnesses and try to draw your boundaries for you. Being mentally ill is not an excuse to avoid all responsibility for your actions. (I’m sure that’s not new news to you but this last year it was for me.)
Idk if publically having an illness makes it your responsibility to like be a spokesperson for that and handle it well. I’m also bipolar, so I deeeeefinitely agree and have had these conversations with people because it gets brought up more when he’s raging on socials. But the way I look at it, the nature of fame is so different now and the idea of accountability to a fan base/ the public for a celebrity is a fairly newer concept. I think there’s a lot of nuance in how we talk about mental illness and art and medication and health vs creativity, but at the end of the day he is just a guy who is sick, who isn’t doing his best. And I know I’ve had those days. I’m really glad I wasn’t famous for them.
Not excusing his behavior at all, I think he’s being fucked, and needs to do better as a man and a father. Just not sure if the celebrity aspect of mental illness should be such a high standard. It is really interesting tho
@@moonchild977 my sister put it in a way I’d never heard before she told me “your reality is valid but it isn’t everyone else’s around you” granted, she went on to say some mean stuff but it helped me connect dots. A big thing for atleast me is that- if someone is explaining something and it is 100% the best thing, I think of it that way. I understand why they do, but the other person doesn’t understand why I won’t listen to them. He is probably feeling that right now, but it doesn’t excuse his terrifying actions. I hope he gets the help he needs. If that’s meds or therapy or whatever. For his kids sake before anyone elses
@@haligh.haligh I don’t think I wanted him to be a spokesperson or anything, tho it’s pretty undeniable that his behavior is not doing much for the stigma around bipolar, even if that’s not really his responsibility. I think he’s just doing something I’ve seen my sister do when she was first diagnosed - blame everything on bipolar and not trying to work on herself. I think that’s fairly common, and it’s fine, he’s just doing it on his massive platform, and there’s not really a way to stop him, so it is a nuanced situation for sure
Also the fact that he says that north can’t handle social media even though her mom is monitoring everything she does (the page is literally ran by her mom)
While he goes on destructive tangents on his own insta is Beyond me.
fr like handle that stuff offline and not for everyone else to see
Even highly monitored social media for an 8 year old is unsafe. also tik tok is not super secure and her ip address could be tracked. also children dont need social media.
Can't believe I'm defending Kanye's opinion on something but I think the one (1) thing he has said over the past months that I'd be inclined to agree with is that there's no way for an 8 yo to have a "safe" public social media presence no matter how much parental control is involved.
The fact that he himself isn't using social media in a healthy way doesn't negate the negative impact social media has on young children.
I agree that kids don’t need social media, but his argument fell flat when after all this, he had his children on IG live. He’s either cherry picking or this is more about control than it is about his kids being on the platforms.
I think it's a good opinion and an opinion he AS THE DAD is allowed to have. However, keep your private buisness involving your child offline pls
People need to call out his behavior for what it is: post-separation abuse and attempts at coercional control. I only hope this doesn’t end as too many cases do.
I acknowledge the mental illness; I am married to a person who has bipolar mania. We battle with ineffective medications, therapy, and her intermittent resistance to treatment - a hallmark symptom of mental illness. Abusive behavior can absolutely be a symptom (or side effect) of mental illness, but where it happens it MUST be addressed.
Someone needs to intervene before something tragic happens.
Bipolar is not a personality disorder, it's a mood disorder. Mental illness is an explanation for things in some cases, but ab*se is not among the symptoms of bipolar. Untreated bipolar can however exacerbate existing problematic behavioural tendencies. Especially when you have a large audience feeding your ego and delusion during a manic episode.
Exactly! Unregulated and assisted Bipolar disorder on top of him being one of the wealthiest people, on top of being misogynistic, on top of the death of his mother, just created a terrible swirl of toxicity.
Bipolar is a type of personality disorder that affects mood. But everything else you said is factual.
@@ksvm2743 bipolar is not a personality disorder.
@@mafumafumafu a *type* of personality disorder. Im diagnosed bipolar and have asked that question before and that’s literally what 2 psychiatrists gave told me
Also, abuse isn't included in personality disorders. I'm extremely tired of people including abuse as a symptom of personality disorders. The large majority of us aren't abusive. Abuse is a choice, not a symptom.
I'm bipolar, and honestly it's been hard seeing this representation of it, it makes me feel like he's damaging how people see bipolar people, but everyone's different - also it's not a personality disorder it's a mood disorder
I hear what you're saying and can understand why you feel that way. But please remember, hes not required to act like role model when hes being himself. When hes doing this all over insta hes not working hes in his personal life and allowed to act without thinking about being a role model. It would be better for him and everyone if he could but hes quite clearly just going through the motions of his personal life like we all do
@@alexh99 hes actively trying to manipulate his fan base and is being pretty abusive don't chalk it up to "he's in his personal life" as a famous person its his responsibility to be aware of what he's spreading to a massive fan base. Especially when its perpetuating abusive behavior
same, I feel like he's stigmatising a terrible disorder more and more that we ALREADY get stigmatised for. I literally hate this man, honeslty.
I disagree with this sentiment but I hear you. I think the problem is people mixing up actual abuse and symptoms of mental illness. Abuse is still a choice, mental illness can drive it but it is mostly a choice. He isn't required to be a figure for all bipolar people though. He SHOULD be a better person, but it's not his job to represent you. It's really society's job to recognize that bp isn't the same for everyone.
frrrr
this situation has made me respect kim a LOT. she’s been dealing with kanye’s outbursts behind closed doors and she’s never insulted him publicly no matter what awful things he has said
Women die to men behaving like Ye all the time. The only reason it’s an “internet drama” that we can discuss with nuance is because Kim is rich.
If this was anyone but Kim K no one would look at Ye’s actions as “complicated”. They would be afraid for her life.
I agree
Stop antagonising men with mental health Issues
@@thetempestlilac3599 stop victim blaming
he literally bought a house across the street from her, like that's scary. it's also scary to see how many of his male fans think his behaviour is funny. Kim better take his ass to court, and if she doesn't then Pete should
Exactly!! So many people are just blaming Kim and talking about her previous divorces, how "it's just a tactic for her show and publicity", and saying it's her that's the problem and she curated this all when it's OBVIOUS ye is the problem here, has been for years, and he's acting scary as hellllll 😬😬😓😓
I’ve always had slight compassion for him because of his mental health. That being said, something I preach is: You may not be responsible for your mental health disorder(s), but you are responsible for seeking effective treatment. I’m diagnosed with an array of disorders, one of them being bipolar 2. I cannot articulate how much I appreciate the value my mood stabilizers have added to my quality of life.
If anything, let this serve as a reminder to take your meds 🥴
100% this ! Esp in his case when he is absolutely wealthy enough to ensure he has the best treatment.
From my experience as a mental health professional and as a black woman I just wanted you to know that getting mental health services is not always supported in the black community and for some it is discouraged. A lot of black people , especially black men, feel shame about needing mental health services and will not seek help. Even though mental health is more accepted there is still a lot of stigma surrounding it. I don’t think what he is doing is right or should be excused but I thought this was a another aspect of the situation.
I agree, however, I feel like once you hit a certain status and have millions in the bank and harass your ex wife, feeling shame should no longer be seen as an excuse. You have the means to get the help and you are putting people in danger because of your pride, that's just stupid. A lot of men don't get help because they're ashamed to do so and they end up killing women, r*ping women etc. I will not feel bad for men who don't want to get help and hurt other people.
Agree. These white creators don’t have the range to discuss Kanye’s bipolar with the depth and breath needed
I am much older than you and live in olympia, Washington… way back in the early 1990’s there was an incident where this guy was feeling up on a woman who was clearly too intoxicated to know what was happening. A little known local act called Nirvana was on stage, saw it, and their lead singer and bassist started yelling at the guy, eventually coming off the stage to forcibly escort the douche king out.
Musicians have most definitely been checking on fans during events long before the Travis Scott incident. If anything, Astroworld was the outlier.
I'd say Travis is the outlier, since he has put fans in danger before
@@miminaomi9844 I didn’t even know who he was when it first happened, but having researched him since… he’s kind of an evil genius. He freaking weaponized social media farming or whatever for call it and made it into real money. I’d be impressed if it weren’t another example of an evil mofo getting one over again. 👿
Kurt didn't play bass that was Krist
@@DROOLBBERRY I meant two people - the singer and the bassist as two people who both chastised the man.
@@pembrokelove otay
This situation is very scary and very sad. If my best friend told me her ex was doing what Ye is doing to Kim I would be trying to hide her because I would genuinely be afraid for her safety.
All the Yé stans on Twitter imagining themselves holding Yé’s face and saying “look at me, this isn’t you. You’re so much more than this babe 🥺💕”
YOURE BACK!! we missed you on your “hiatus” lol. you’re looking as beautiful as ever.
she was posting on her other channel lol
@@blueynights oh damn i forgot about that channel 😭😭
LMAO this is unrelated but I fucking love your username
i love ur pfp
@@papashrek6845 life imitates art
I grew up never knowing one of my grandfathers because he went through a similar mental health crisis nigh on 50 year ago. I dont know exactly what was wrong with him, but what stories Ive been told about his behavior have a startling similarity to Kanye's. So I feel an immense amount of sympathy for not only Kim K, a woman who is being forced to endure what someone like my grandma only had to suffer in private, and their children. This is something which should not be public, especially when it's being openly mocked and memed.
I'm a huge fan of kanye. Since the beginning. And I believe to this day nothing has been the same since his mom passed away.
I fully agree. I think he never dealt with it and he's dealing with alot of unresolved pain.
I completely agree he never got to process his grief properly.
That’s his problem, if he can’t take the time to process himself for the greater good, he’s still responsible for how he behaves and acts out. He’s also a parent now, not a little boy. If you don’t deal with your hurt, you’re going to hurt people. Intentional or not. It’s simply no excuse, people are different on how they manage grief. Only some let the grief manage them.
Edit: Grief never goes away, and there are times where it eats you alive like you’re back on square one. You can live with it, I know people who have lost their mom and CHOOSE to be a good person while acknowledging that person is still alive in their precious memories. It depends on how you MANAGE grief, and yourself. If one falls the other will go with it.
It really seemed like he was, with how donda panned out but then it didn't happen
Well he better figure it out. It's about to be too late and he's about to face the consequences of his actions
I love how much more laid back this video of yours is, I've been watching a lot of commentary channels and the "okay don't take this the wrong way im not trying to be problematic" warnings before every sentence were getting on my nervesss, anyway been loving your channel since the beginning keep doing what you're doing queen
Off topic a bit, but that cycle chart you made at 19:05 was such a quick effective way of explaining nuance, as someone who doesn't retain info well it was a great way to sum up the situation :)
Love your videos!
By the way, bipolar disorder is NOT a personality disorder. It's a mood disorder. It's in the same range as depression and anxiety. Bipolar disorder does not make someone abuse another person or manipulate people. He is at full fault for his actions. Please do not put his actions on bipolar disorder. This is definitely something else.
Edit: I just wanted to correct my statement. As someone pointed out anxiety is not a mood disorder, but instead deals with a feeling. Moods are pervasive and long-lasting, while feelings are fleeting and usually last for a few minutes (I believe). Feelings can be curved while moods are not as easy to change. A feeling and a mood are different things within psychology. We should definitely create a conversation in this thread to encourage a better education on mood disorders vs. personality disorders.
Anxiety disorders are not considered mood disorders either, ijs! Anxiety is a feeling, and can definitely be comorbid with and exacerbated by mood disorders (and vice versa), but they're not classified together in the same group.
@@fioregiallo hmm ok, I believe that you are right. I just always grouped them together, mentally, because of how common they pair together. Moods and feelings are definitely different. Thank you for the correction
Are you insinuating personality disorders make people abusive?? Because that is objectively false and incredibly ableist. As someone with suspected borderline I would NEVER abuse someone, ever, and that’s a gross statement to make.
@@alexb4185 Ok, the personality disorders that I'm insinuating are Narcissitic personality disorders and Anti Social Personality disorders. I hope that helped you understand what I was talking about
@@alexb4185 I really don't think that's what this person meant at all.
Thank you for making a video that doesn’t simply talk down about Kanye, the whole situation is so sad and alarming. Great video and welcome back!
his behavior is awful for stigma around bipolar disorder. i’m diagnosed bipolar 2 and while i can sympathize with ye’s behavior, it is really really unfortunate that his outbursts have been posted on his platform for all to see.
Someone in my History class wore a “Kanye 2023” shirt the other day and my teacher just looked so disappointed.
15:08 just to note bipolar is not a personality disorder, it is a mood disorder. They are drastically different!
"Bipolar disorder, also known as manic depressive disorder, is a type of personality disorder where mood swings can range from extreme highs to extreme lows. The two sides of bipolar disorders are called mania (extreme high) and depressive (extreme low)."
@@Lee-ss8yj it’s a mood disorder
@@bitchracula3395 I just quoted the Banner Health website
@@Lee-ss8yj well then they're wrong.
bpd is a personality disorder. Bipolar is a mood disorder.
It’s funny bc Kanye has a mood disorder (bipolar) and Pete Davidson has a personality disorder (bpd). It’s interesting to see Pete not react to Kanye like at all. As someone with bpd I admire his strength and use of his skills to actually refrain from engaging (bc it would definitely be a trigger to be attacked like that imo!)
BPD is more responsive to medication and therapy than Bipolar is, specially bipolar 1. Pete is a medicated bpd patient, that may be why he is calmly taking this. Bipolar people even when medicated with a combination of meds that seem to work , still suffer from mania, depression, and psychotic episodes. Its sad but it is very likely that a big portion of bipolar patients might never be able to control their disorder, that might be the case for him.
I personally was told by my psychiatrist that medication is not a solid form of treatment for BPD (though it can help) it is not recognised as a treatment compared to Bipolar which is mainly treated by meds. Though I do agree that therapy greatly helps and you can lessen your symptoms enough that you no longer suit the bpd diagnosis (unlike bipolar which you cannot). It depends how responsive the patient is to therapy tho which a lot of bpd patients aren’t
@@smilegreene9929 Thats is true, bpd patients dont usually get treated with ONLY medication since most dont respond to it (some psychiatrist do medicate bpd) , but therapy is the most effective treatment for bpd patients, bipolar people are more likely to respond to meds than therapy, however statistically bpd patients respond much better to therapy than bipolar people to meds.
My general hypothesis is that since bpd develops from trauma and fear of abandonment, bpd patients deal with more "logical" responses to triggers (they have reasons that can be understood more easily even if the abandonment is not real), while bipolar people have no "logical" reason to become psychotic, manic, or depressive, instead they respond quite randomly and with no apparent reason and control (neurological dysfunctions) so that may be why even when medicated and going to therapy, people like Kanye appear way more erratic and chaotic (also a lot less reasonable) than someone like Pete who appears more calm, logical, and not narcissistic (bpd doesn't have strong narc tendencies like bipolar does).
Kanye is not in treatment right now, but he has been in the past many times and still had meltdowns.
@@bellami9605 a lot us don’t have “logical” responses to triggers… I don’t know how you think you have the authority to dictate that. Are you diagnosed with either or are you a psychiatrist? Otherwise I don’t really think that we should be dictating what are an aren’t viable treatment methods.
I also don’t think that we should be comparing mental illnesses on what is worse or better. I think that that creates competition (especially in people with bpd) to be “worse” and can lead to more SH behaviours in order to be sick enough. I also don’t really understand what your messages have to do with my initial stance since I was congratulating Pete on his use of DBT skills to avoid conflict, I don’t know if you realise how difficult and how much effort that would be for him. I’m not shaming Kanye in anyway, as I do know he isn’t in treatment at this time and isn’t functioning as healthily as he could. This comment was meant to be applauding Pete and his efforts.
Something I’ve been thinking about a lot in regards to conspiratorial thought being particularly associated with certain political affiliations and beliefs is that synthesizing (making those conspiratorial connections, Hillary Clinton was whispering in Kim’s ear while Disney was telling Pete what to do, as an example) is something someone does when their beliefs about themselves are in tension with reality, but they can’t self-reflect or change those beliefs. For example, if your wife leaves you and seems to move on quickly, it’s easier to say “this is because these politicians hate me and have told her I’m a bad influence or unstable” than to say “the state of my mental health has threatened the wellbeing of my relationship and my wife is unhappy with where we’re at right now, I need to get myself and my view of this relationship with her in order so that I can show her I want to collaborate on this separation to make it as peaceful as possible.”
EDIT: It’s work all people gotta do!! I’ve had to check in with myself about how much I’m holding others responsible for situations and how much I hold myself responsible for them. I just find that conspiracies are what happen when you can’t take ANY responsibility on for something but there’s very little other rational explanation. It’s a coping mechanism to protect yourself from feeling threatened by critique, taken way too far into maladaptive behavior.
What did Disney even do?
Honestly this situation really hits home for me. My dad is bipolar and my mom divorced him when I was 9 and he acted (and still acts) very similarly to Ye. When I first saw everything happening and saw so many people in his comments fueling him it made me so uncomfortable, my dad also blatantly refuses help and it's so disheartening to see people encourage it. I feel so bad for their kids most especially with how publicized it is, although I went through a very smiler situation I cannot imagine it being for all eyes to see. I truly hope he can get the help he deserves.
YES! I'm so glad u brought up the j aubrey video about kanye ! Another video that I found very insightful was f.d. signifier's video on him its breaks down the situation really well !
as someone with bipolar, yes it's hard. but his actions aren't all his mental illness. his refusal to get help, and continued harassment of Kim are all on him. a manic episode only lasts so long, and when he comes down he needs to realize that his life can't keep going on like this.
Omg I haven't seen the civil war poster. Let me tell you I laughed so hard that I died and went straight to hell when I was like "is that Taylor Swift??" And turned my phone to see that it was indeed Taylor Swift. Omg. Priceless.
Same
The fact that he stole it from his reddit 💀.
It was a dumb meme
@@hawken796 damn, that kinda ruins it. I'm not on Twitter nor been his subreddit, so I didn't know lmaoooo
@@fioregiallo It was weird because everyone in the sub was like "does he... know about us?"
@@hawken796 all the drama aside, that's actually kinda wholesome 🤣
Ok but imagine with Kim was doing exactly what Ye was doing. She would lose custody of the kids and end up in a Britney level conservatorship quick
Have you guys also noticed that he RARELY speaks of his other children? Other than the Chicago’s birthday party incident and the filter thing the other day, he only talks about NORTH. It’s really strange…almost like he acknowledges her because people calls her his twin which would correlate to his narcissistic behavior. Only heard him mention saint once. And quite literally have never heard him talk about psalm.
It’s very strange, not only that, but one thing I never understand is his double standard of North. for example, he has no problem taking and parading his young daughter all over Paris at fashion shows, but won’t allow her to have a tiktok. I think he has this odd attachment and possessiveness on north and what she can and cannot do. You are right I can not think of one time he has talked about his children…
"I be worrying about North and i be worrying about Kim, but Saint is baby Ye, im not worried about him" - Kanye West on his song Saint Pablo said this.
@@AsherneZ not you commenting a whole song lyric…..your supposed to care about your baby.
He doesn’t need to tell the public about his children all the time. For all you know he could talk about his children equally behind closed doors. North is his first child so I don’t see how that makes him narcissistic to “talk about her more”
I loved that you talked about Julia Fox and the misogyny behind everyone hating on her (or on Kim)!! I also think she's sooo cool, it's crazy to me why everyone hates her. But then again, in the last decade everyone was faster to sympathize w Kanye than w Kim for gender reasons, so.....
Yayy been waiting for this one! The whole situation is so messy :/
I’ve been waiting for this one. You look really good btw.
I’m excited for this one! You look great Grayson!
seeing so many people enable this shit because they don't like the karjenners is disgusting. people need to understand that you can not like someone and STILL think they don't deserve to be treated the way kanye is treating kim.
As soon as your group chat notification bell rang and your face zoomed in, I got a home depot ad and idky but listening to the home depot theme right after that cracks me up so hard
As a Ye fan,
I approve of this video.
I feel that the majority of his fans feel like his problems are theirs, and that's what I don't like about Ye fans. It's honestly frustrating. I just want him to take a break from everything. Like, a year, or something, idk. I need Donda 2 to be the last album from him for another 2 years. In conclusion, Ye needs help.
Hi!
I was having a really bad mental breakdown earlier, and then this video popped up.
THANK YOU!
I'm feeling so much better because of this :))
Highly unrelated but your opening card reminds me of this one time I did acid and got stuck staring at vintage posters of mushrooms and anatomy and flowers for literal hours and I’ve always found it weirdly comforting
i was never a fan but i did enjoy his music when i listened to him w my dad, his recent behavior has been very worrying :/ very interested in your commentary on this topic !
your pfp is so nice
@@mahzabinnn thank you !! ^^
Tbh I'm not familiar with Julia, but her post about being unaffected and hustling Ye rubbed me the wrong way. To some extent I wouldn't be upset about her just using him to get money and clothes, get ur bag girl, but doing it while he's in a manic episode feels kinda of explotive to me. It's not completely on her ig since his team is there and they're cosigning this behavior but it feels kind of fucked, especially since it's common for people who are maniac to be really financially irresponsible. But then again he's a millionaire and a Birkin isn't gonna bankrupt him so 🤷🏾♀️
Tbh I feel bad for everyone involved, but especially towards Kim and her children. Trying to protect your daughters and their relationship with their father while he publicly drags you through the mud can't be easy. Ye says he cares for them and I don't doubt it, but he's doing more harm than good and some of his behavior is borderlining abusive. If he wasn't rich and famous he would've been sanctioned by now.
commenting for the engagement and also bc i lost my mind laughing at "subway? eat fresh!" 😂
u go grayson have a good one
I totally understand what you mean … every post or comment I make talking about mental health, NPD, harassment and domestic abuse … I get a smidge nervous. But as women who cares about all women in 2022… we speak because we’re privileged AF to have a voice and so others who are enduring the same shit and don’t have the means to get away … that we stand in solidarity with them ♥️🤘🏻⚡️
I'm crying at the "subway, eat fresh" comment. The improv is 14/10 🤌
Huge fan of Kanye, i think that man's music has helped through some of the worst moments in my life, however, his latest antics while not as loud as his Trump antics, where much more problematic. Harassing his ex-wife and her current partner on social media, threatening violence towards Pete, inciting harassment of Pete to his dumbass followers and forcing grandiose gestures of "love" onto Kim as well. Overall, his behavior should be called out and the guy needs some serious professional help pronto. Great video breaking down that behavior though.
Genuinely u're one of the rarest Kanye fan I saw on TH-cam.
Such a relief. Thank you.
I don't know why, but you failed to mention that the account is Kim AND North's, the acc name is Kim and North, _it's in the name._ Kim can see anything her daughter does and posts. Ye had no leg to stand on from the beginning, as their daughter was being safely monitored by her mother. These details are important to mention for context.
It's so sad too cause watching Jeen-Yuhs really had me rooting for him cause he's so likable and Donda is such an amazing mother. Sad to see what he's turned into today.
you always add such good commentary to topics and i love your channel! you inspired me to start collecting monster high dolls too
Pre-Watched Thoughts:
Kanye recently needs to be held accountable and his stanbase needs to stop rushing to his defense every time he gets involved in controversy
HOWEVER
As far as I know, Kanye is known to reject professional help as most severely ill people would do when in denial. I don't believe he has a team of people with his best interest in mind. Somebody NEEDS to get/convince him to get severe mental/medicative treatment, whether he likes it or not, or he's going to end up unintentionally harming himself AND his family way worse than he could be doing now
I believe they have done everything to help him. Kim, Kim's family, his own family. Even Jayz and Beyonce have stepped in bc they consider kanye family. If he refuses, theres nothing that can be done unfortunately.
Stfu your not ye y'all shit females who don't have any mental health PhD or anything label him as mad and crazy isn't he allowed to be mad or rant about something with out it being mental health this proves the white woman in they end will always win
@@smithmister16 Chill out,your misogyny is showing.
He was on meds for an entire year in 2019 and it definetely affected his music and even reflected in the interviews.
Sadly he believes prioritising creativity over health and that's the sad part
@@smithmister16 L
It is crazy how similar Ye's tweets and social media interactions are to my father's texts to me and my sister (my dad is manic-depressed, narcissistic and has a slew of other disorders, and hes also a trump supporter). It's crazy how familiar it feels and I feel so much for Kim and the kids. I hope they are doing well
If he took his medication, and actually tried to change as a person, Kim probably wouldn’t have divorced him. You have seen times where he has treated her horribly.
He did in 2019, but that messed with his creativity.
Sucks to see him prioritise creativity over health
@@hawken796 yeah it sucks to see it, but I’m glad Kim is out the relationship and seems to be happier
When his team made the apology post on his IG I actually bought it and thought he'll stop posting but then not even a full day after you see a full blown all caps post and you know shit didn't change at all💀💀
And the caption was "all caps for the cap".
You know it's gonna be a bar on donda 2
@@hawken796 Donda 2 gon be fye bruh imagine all the skete references and shit ☠️
@@pojouz That album gonna age like absolute piss if that's the case
I was looking forward to seeing this video!! It's fantastic, and I appreciate Grayson's efforts to keep me informed on a variety of topics.3
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you're literally the most prettiest person ive ever seen
okay but your personality in this video was so cute i love it
Liked this one so much I’ll subscribe based on our agreement that Julia Fox IS cool! Thanks algos for suggesting this 🙏🏼
I missed your content!!!!
7:58 Yes. Billie specifically has been doing it for years.
People just like drama 🤷♀️
I appreciate your commentary on this, I think the general attitude of believing Kanye is “harmless”, a meme or god forbid sympathetic is dangerous. A man having a public mental health crisis shouldn’t be shamed, but harassing your ex and children despite clear signs of wanting to be left alone is dangerous and I don’t think most people would take it seriously unless he does something to try to physically assault Kim.
Grayson, my god your timing is phenomenal, I was feeling the depression creep in and you posted. Made a bailes coffee and chilling 🪐
enjoy your coffee and have a wonderful day < 3
ooooo i’m looking forward to watching this one! i’ve seen a bunch of people i know joke about it and i don’t know the details but the situation is pretty concerning to me. his posts were just. Yikes. anyway u look great!!
YE IS A GENIUS OFC YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND HIM
woah, i saw you made a comment about doing a ye video in the future on your second channel, didnt think it would be so soon but i’m pleasantly surprised! thank you for the great content, it’s greatly appreciated!
Thanks again for your unbiased reporting commentary Grayson. I appreciate you
hiiiiiii! just wanted to say that i love your videos and that i appreciate the amount of effort that you put in! love u
I really hope Ye gets help before his relationship with Kim (not any potential romantic relationship but just his co-parenting relationship) and his relationship with his kids are permanently damaged. Cause that definitely feels like where hes headed if hes not there already. It's obvious that's not what he wants and I honestly doubt that's what Kim wants either. I wish the best for Ye and I have serious respect for how Kim has handled things.
I love how you are always considering the opinion contrary to you!! you always offer a multi perspective opinion
that necklace is really pretty !!
“i don’t wanna call it a meltdown.. but if 2+2=4…” 🤣 i love you grayson
I'd like to add that a lot of people are unhappy with Julia Fox because her relationship with Ye could be interpreted as enabling his behavior. There's also speculation that this is a clout chasing move as Fox had history of using her dominatrix job to "network" with wealthy, prestigious men, BUT. There's more nuance to that particular take, especially since it isn't a proven fact, probably regarding the misogyny that you mentioned.
Grayson, I love the video, but I NEED to know...what mascara are you using, cause your eyelashes look stunning!!
Grayson you always handle every topic with such care and nuance in a way that's not often seen on TH-cam, plus I always find myself agreeing with every word you say lmao
That color lipstick is STUNNING on you!! 😍
Edit to add: I lost it when you said eat fresh 😂😂😂
Yeah. I’m bipolar as well. It’s not a personality disorder. It’s a mood disorder. Ye isn’t acting like this just because he’s bipolar. He’s acting like this because he’s a piece of shit. I worry for Kim’s safety.
It's sad that people often confuse his shitty behavior for his bipolar disorder.... It adds more stigma to a group of people who don't actually act like he does
Wow u must know everything about him. I'm not defending him but mental illness shows itself in various types of ways depending on the individual. It may as well be his being a pos but it could also be that his mental illness has manifested in that wau
correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't pete also suffer from bipolar disorder? and he is not harassing Ariana or any other woman he's dated? I just don't understand how people use mental health as an excuse
@@miminaomi9844 no he has bpd
@@aduzzz3322 aah okay my mistake, but as a social worker I think that bpd might even be harder to live with, so I stand by my original point
you just made this whole situation so much clearer, ty!
Grayson you literally look STUNNING in this video it's distracting
I really like your commentary videos! It's how I previously found you!
You look fantastic! Really loving the lip gloss, looks great on you!
Also, this video was very interesting, good work!
You have the most beautiful skin! I love that you're covering this.
:0 I’m so early!! I’ve been rly confused on the topic so I’m so glad you made a video!
Thank you so much for covering this and talking about all the different aspects!!
dang I'm early, can't wait to watch the vid!
gray is an S tier youtuber, no questions asked
“that was my pottery class group chat” I LOVE YOU
I just wanna say I’m glad to have your pov of this subject but also… you look so cute 🤭
content dope, but alsooo your nails and overall fit and makeup??? love
Just wanna say you look SO CUTEEEEEE UR NAILS MAKEUP EVERYTHING
While I don’t care for the Kardashian family, I don’t want anything to happen to people who are, ultimately, innocent. Honestly the best move for Kim would be TO move. To go somewhere with a WPP thing, Kanye is definitely NOT listening and he’s completely gone.
omg youtube cropped it so i just read "ye west" and accepted that as the title
love u & ur vids, more ppl need to voice this mediated response
Good video! I want to do my own response to Kanye's actions as someone who has bipolar I (which is the one with mania and psychotic symptoms), and I'll use this video as a reference.
However just a couple corrections:
- Bipolar Affective Disorder is not a personality disorder, it's a mood disorder
- Kanye HAS bipolar, not "he is bipolar". People can be manic, depressed, cyclothymic, etc, but saying that someone "is" their mental illness reduces us to just that. While I know this is not your intention, it contributes to stigma.
Loved this analysis beside those things!
I would honestly love a break down of his career
The j Aubrey video she mentioned does a great job of that
@@EnloTheRover Ok I'll look it up
F.D Signifier also did a couple videos about him which were good
@@isabelgraham4388 Yea I did enjoy his videos but it felts like his videos where explaining the public's perception of Ye and I think that I want to see a something examinining the man and his art a bit more.
Plus there's the documentary on Netflix
the imessage sound was so real of you, i genuinely thought my phone went off lmao
i'm so glad you made a video on this
as of recent events… this needs an update lmao
Speaking of Julia Fox as just about a woman that was involved in something with Ye (her career and/or personality, or if she smart or not, talented or not really doesn’t matter now): she got her moment, her promotion, new damn wardrobe 😂 Good for her is what I can say. You know that a person who can switch from working at a pastry shop to being a dominatrix is ready for some crazy changes in their life.
Im so happy your back your videos are so good