as someone who read the original fanfiction while anna todd (back then it was imaginator1d) was updating it i feel like it’s my personal duty to bring up that the original bet was for harry to take tessa’s virginity and he proved it to everyone by keeping the bloody sheets they had sex on and showed them to everyone. and then kept them in the trunk of his car. and then tessa still went back to him
didnt he hit her in the books too? anna todd was actually insane and the fact that people don’t know harden is harry styles is infuriating bc it really makes it problematic
THIS THIS THIS. Didn’t he also fix her car with the money he won from the bet - thinking it would somehow soften the blow? My memory is fuzzy (thank heavens) but I remember something like that 😆
"she wore a grey crop top that said "SWAG" in the front that hung loosely on her body, with gray washed jeans and a plaid red blazer tied around her waist and brown combat boots, then she threw her hair up into a messy bun"
@@Snow-xd4rv well it makes sense, she's "pArT Of tHe BoYs" and "the boyz" do not know how to dress like these gremlins will wear the WORST combination of Nike + puma like just clashing colors, tacky materials
Unfortunately this is just a really common thing in fanfiction. The first fanfic I ever read was about Luke Hemmings, a member of five seconds of summer, in a relationship with a 16 year old girl that was the best friend of his daughter. The kicker was that Luke himself was barely 19 when it was written, so the author literally aged him up and made it problematic !
it truly hurts my little fanfiction-enjoying heart that of all the insanely well written fanfics that could become popular and be made into movies, they keep choosing the absolute worst of the worst 😑
it's actually so funny that the tattoo artist gave him alcohol because when getting a tattoo you're not supposed to drink because the colour won't stay as well on the skin and you'll bleed more 🤡
when you said 'polyvore' i was physically thrown back to 2015. like, i remember opening ALL the links to see what the outfit inspo for certain chapters was. what a time
I feel like the shit show of the narrative/ messy plot lines are only acceptable in fanfic, it’s written by fans and is a passion project. But when they bring it to film, they have no excuse, they have millions to put into these movies ahah
Are we gonna talk about the drastic change of Tessa's behavior from the first movie to the second movie? In the first movie she seems shy and is afraid to speak up for herself and then the second movie happens and we're supposed to believe she is having these screaming matches and not wearing underwear to parties?? It's just so unrealistic. Also that would mean that Hardin literally brings out the WORST in her.
This whole series infuriated me. But the part that REALLY made my blood boil was when Tessa said "you can either f*ck me, or you leave." And Hardin/Harry actually had sex with her! Sir, you are literally taking advantage of someone when they are drunk! In the book she was so drunk that if she had another drop of alcohol, she would have passed out. I just really want to know why Anna Todd thought it was a GREAT idea to have that be their first sex scene after the huge betrayal in book 1.
@@pandorafreeman2242 Anna Todd definately knew how toxic/abusive their relationship was. But she tried to reassure us that Hardin's/Harry's a good guy because he never actually hit Tessa. Okay? But he still gaslights and manipulates the hell out of Tessa. Physical abuse isn't the only kind of abuse!
@@GamingWithGlacier I couldn't get past the first book itself, it was that bad. I don't get why the bad books get so many views on Wattpad and they get turned into movies. There are so many more better non bad boy ones over there.
The first one was enough for me 😭 I gave it a chance and after the disappointment I now only keep up with it through commentary videos (of course ones that agree with me that it sucks)
RIGHT OMFG the movies aren’t even good. In fact they’re just trash. The plot, the acting, the constant on again off again, the meaningless drama, etc. nothing in the movie has a single purpose, it’s all just a glorified toxic relationship.
You guys shouldn't fund this stuff. Literally no one is forcing you to watch it. You already know its trash. Why continue to fund the creator and her future projects??
My biggest question throughout the entire trilogy was when tf did Tessa graduate that she even got the qualifications to land an internship that would land her on fckin Seattle, like she did a literal semester and popped off. Did Hardin even graduate? How did they both not fail.
fr tho, like girlie landed a BIG intership after only one semester, and was able to grow in it insanely fast in a timespan of like... a month? Like who in their right mind would hire an eighteen year old and give her that much responsibility? No one would've given me that opportunity after only a semester at college, nor do I know anyone who would have, either.
Or during the time of Franz Liszt who was one of the first musicians with an absolutely thirsty as hell fandom who would throw underwear onto his stage and would take his hair, coffee dregs, or even cigar stumps and made them into lockets and such IN THE 1840s!
It was so intense that some doctors genuinely thought it was a mental illness of some sort with ladies fainting left and right and acting obsessive over him
Reading bad YA romances as a teen made me look for the exact opposite in men lol. I want soft lovable men, same with women but the romances back when I was a teen didn’t dare have an ounce of bisexuality lol.
@@DC_let_the_Waynes_be_happy lol true, I also had a tendency to get crushes on assholes when I was a teen so once I grew up I was like “ yeah I’m never doing that again”
the kissing booth series was amazing. i binged it in 3 days (way after they came out). obviously super bad & cheesy but my jaw was to the floor at so many points bc of how wild it was. jacob elordis (that’s his name right idk nate from euphoria lol) accent slipped at one point & im shook they didn’t do a retake & just left it in. i also cried a lot bc i’m a fucking sap. i really hope we get another one that fills in the time jump from the 3rd one.
i don’t think it’s swept under the rug? she does show up to his school either in the book or the movie and they do talk and then i think he says he’s met a new girl but they’ve been friends for so long that he doesn’t resent her.
@@juliashaul2660 It really did look like the whole story swept the whole thing under the rug... Tessa, still in a relationship then, was instantly ok with having inappropriate interactions with another man *behind her boyfriend's back* ... She wasn't hesitant or showing signs of weighing on the legitimacy of her actions. She was ok with lying and abusing someone's trust from the get-go, and the story tried to portray her as a kind and innocent person??? What kind of kind person could be this abusive??? She hurt people, and the damages on others were just barely acknowledged...
my friend and I hate-watched the After series and I genuinely cannot tell you a single thing that happens in these movies. They are so unmemorable and infuriating, also why was dylan sprouse in the second movie like what
My friend and I watched it over Netflix party and I still have screenshots of our texts. My favorite one by her is in response to harden reason gatsby to seem quirky. “It’s not impressive or quirky, it’s a high school requirement”. One of mine that made her lol was that Hardin “looks like someone who thinks you need a high IQ to enjoy Rick and Morty”
My friend and I literally could not stop making fun of him during the second movie we’d just randomly yell out FOCKIN TREVOH😭 But Dylan was the only person I seriously enjoyed in this series😭
This is literally the SMALLEST detail ever compared to the rest of the shot show of a movie but,, the tattoo scene… you’re advised against drinking the day before bc it thins your blood and makes you bleed (also just.. the intoxication too)
so my friend (she’s 15 i am too) is OBSESSED with the after movies (and books). i never watched them but i thought i’d watch this video just to get some insight on what she’s talking about and now i don’t know what the fuck to do because she continues to ramble on and on about how hardin is the ideal boyfriend and how she’s so jealous of tessa and everything so now i’m genuinely concerned for her because on top of this she’s a very insecure girl (tw. has struggled a lot with an ed to the point where she couldn’t go to school or do any of her passions because of it) and so this is just extremely harmful. i wrote down this comment because i highly doubt that she’s the only person who’s creating weird expectations and ideals for relationships in the future so these type of movies are probably just as harmful as everyone thinks
It's honestly depressing what movies like this do to young ignorant children. Coming from a 15 year old as well, it's honestly a relief she has a friend like you by her side because if she's actually in a situation where she believes that kind of relationship is healthy then she needs a friend to tell her the truth. You can either educate her on it or just let her grow out of it, because she'll probably grow older and start realizing that it's not something to idolize. The books are more concerning than the movies honestly. There are scenes where he abuses her and (keeps the blood-stained sheets they had sex on to prove that he took her virginity to his friends...yeah) and etc, this is only information I pulled from other comments since I am not going to waste my time reading the books, but it's just so disturbing and gross. Carrying on, I wish your friend the best and hopefully she doesn't fall into a toxic relationship of her own. This video talks about After in much more depth, but if you want to watch a commentary that reacts to it and shows more of the toxic scenes, I personally recommend 'Dylan is in Trouble' he makes a lot of jokes but hearing the actual scenes makes you hate hardin much more. :)
Your friend is lucky to have someone like you who is invested in her well-being. I hope your friend gets the love, help, and support she needs from other sources in her life as well because you’re right, it does set a terrible precedent and opens the door for those weird and unhealthy relationship dynamics. I read the After series when i was 14/15 years old and I felt the same way as your friend. I ended up getting into a relationship similar to the one in the series in college, and I definitely think the series influenced me to idealize Hardin and Tessa’s relationship and accept one in my own life so yikes lmao. Definitely don’t think we’re the only ones either, but I’m glad you see it at the very least
Just know that your support for her well-being is enough, just being a good friend is enough. But if you want to talk to her about it, I would. Maybe she just doesn’t know. I kinda knew it was wrong but getting some attention and validation even the bad kind was better than nothing because I really didn’t think there was any way someone would validate me in a healthy way. She might not listen and I wouldn’t push it too hard, but having someone who cares about her express a different opinion about it and offer an alternative might help if you are looking to bring it up with her. Although keep in mind that she is not your responsibility, even though you certainly care about her and want to show it, you are already doing enough just by being supportive
Dude are we the same person i'm also 15 and my friend is obsessed with this too i did already know all about after before and i tried to tell her about how horrible the whole thing is but she just doesn't listen she tells me i just dont get it and that its real romance and that he has childhood trauma thats why he does all the bad stuff and just i dont know what to do? Its really scary and it seems like there's nothing i can do i wanted to send her a video essay like this but she said she wont watch its horrible that literal children are reading this stuff and thinking abuse is okay god
i have only consumed these movies through other people, and my favourite lines have to be form the second one "fucking trevor?!" "you're toxic, and you're bad news!" never fail to makeme laugh
I got drunk with my boyfriend once and we thought watching the first movie would be fun. We were both so frustrated at EVERYTHING that we spent all the run time sitting in angry silence
My friends and I have watched the second one SO MANY times because we just view it as a comedy. I fully second that it’s the funniest movie you’ll watch, as long as you don’t take it seriously lol
There are countless upon countless amazing fan fictions online that creators would kill to have be published/adapted to screen. This series is the biggest slap in the face to the writing community I’ve ever seen bro
⚠️ TW:- mentions of sex*al ass*ult ⚠️ I don't know if anyone mentioned this yet, but in the book 1 (yes, I hate myself enough to have read it), before Tessa and Hardin's first kiss at the frat party, she's almost sexually assaulted, and she runs into Hardin's room for protection and that basically starts off their "romance" and... Well, what had we even expected from such romance, right?
My favorite fact about After: During the promotional period of the movie "Pride, Prejudice & Zombies", the PR team collaborated with Wattpad to create zombie versions of more "literary classics" on the site. Anna Todd herself re-wrote the whole first chapter to be an apocalyptic zombie world where flesh eating monsters are still angels compared the rotten personality of fake Harry Styles
The After Saga will always never sit right with me; knowing this was a whole fanfiction series about Harry Styles just makes me cringe in the worst ways. I love Harry to death, but this series is all around plain weird to me . . . 💀
Not to mention, Harry was 19 and Anna was 24 when she first wrote After… talk about creepy. Also, that woman was (and somehow still is) MARRIED at the time. Like why would a married woman in her mid 20’s write smut about a teenager?! If their genders were reversed it would be more controversial.
In an alternate universe the After saga ends with the second movie without them getting together. Tessa gets with Trevor, they adopt a puppy and have a nice life together. Harden goes to therapy in England and actually fixes his shit. That's it the end
I truly think it's criminal that this series is marketed to teens and tweens as romance. What? You simply should not be allowed to tell impressionable young people that this is an acceptable relationship or even an aspirational relationship. In general I'm not in favor of censorship but I feel like something needs to be done with this series.
The title for the fourth movie makes no sense.. After Ever Happy? It shouldn't even exist, I'd honestly say After is tge worst wattpad adapted movie series
@@graysonsprojects Right?? I guess it'd make some sense if it was ever after happy or happy ever after🤨 they really just slapped two words with after and called it a day. I mean I guess they're adamant on after always being the first word
As an aspiring tattoo artist I got so pissed at the alcohol tattoo scene. Alcohol thins the blood meaning you bleed more making it insanely hard to tattoo a person (a tattoo that looks good at least).
i would like to point out a couple of things: 1 a flight from london to atlanta is 8-9 hours, you can’t just fly back and forth (also it’s like, expensive) 2 if i lived in London and wanted to go to college in the states i wouldn’t choose fing Atlanta (also paying so much to live, study and travel to the us just for a literature degree (?) is lowkey pointless and jut not logical)
I mean isn't his dad the dean of the college? I wouldn't be surprised if he somehow pulled some strings or something to get Hardin in and that is the only university Hardin could get into.
After my wife passed away, I went through a phase where I watched a lot of romance movies. I was gonna check this one out, then I looked up a plot synopsis and saw it was yet another "Girl cheats on her boyfriend who did nothing to deserve it, but somehow she's still the protagonist of the story" movies, and I skipped it. Sadly, thanks to Netflix, that plotline has become an entire genre of its own, and movies/shows in it are often praised as being progressive and empowering....because reasons I guess.
It is weird… like why can’t these characters be single?? Or would being single signal that she’s “undesirable” or something 🙄 also I’m very sorry for your loss
I honestly hate every aspect of this genre, no matter which way around it is. IT IS THE WORST. Whether the MC cheats, the love interest, or even the MC trying to steal her crush from someone else and it being frames like they did nothing wrong and the "belong together". Worse trope ever...
I genuinely feel bad for the members of One Direction because of the existence of these headcannons. It’s baffling how the a wattpad fanfiction they had no say in would spur a literal film.
the way my friends back then mocked me for reading fanfics and then years later proceeded to read the books and watch the movies and tell me how good they are… besties
the fact that Tessa has all of Anna Todd's physical traits (blonde, blue eyes) but in a more typical ``beauty standard`` slimmer body confirms the really notorious self-insert
in the original fanfic tessa describes herself as like curvier and gets insecure about her size compared to harry/hardin’s and it comes up quite a bit i remember when i first saw a photo of anna after reading the three fanfics i immediately saw how much of a self insert it was idk how it is in the books but in the movie they pick a more “standard” looking tessa
I was once at a bookstore where there were the after books. I legit told the manager "did anyone even buy those? I mean those are literal abominations" i still stand by those words.
im so sorry for everyone that wasted time and money on watching this series, but im even more sorry for the people who, like me, were dumb enough to read the whole thing. the books are even worse. if you havent read them, do yourself a favour and DONT EVEN TRY.
@@lu-__- each book was atleast like 600 something pages. i don’t remember anything except that he would genuinely abused her and that they had really gross sex all the time
@@lu-__- it’s insane that they took out all the physical abuse and was 1000x times more controlling in the books and in the movie hes a misunderstood angry kid
I've never wanted to watch After because of the age gap between the author and harry when she wrote it. so so glad you made a video on this because I have always been kinda curious
These movies are why fanfiction gets a bad reputation, any time a "normal" (i guess lmao) person hears the word 'fanfiction' they immediately link it to things like this. Its pretty sad when things such as The Childrens Rebellion etc. get compared to things like this just because its also fanfiction. (This is not negative to you or anyone, just a small rant) It was a great video!
Why not tho? Personally, having fanfiction turn into published books is okay just not a movie adaptation if it's bad with cardboard characters and S.A. lololol
@@Raikantopini-b4k Lets stop turning bad fanfiction or fanfiction about real people into real books* Fanfics about real people is creepy and can be harmful when you have a large following and a lot of them don't always know the difference between fiction and reality. I remember reading fanfics of certain people and a lot of people thinking the things about the people were true cause it was a common fanfic trope. 😪
No. Honestly after is just a really bad example of fanfiction but since these are the types of stories that tend to get published everyone seems to assume that this is what all fanfiction is like. In reality, the vast majority of it is OK, not great not terrible but then there's also some fan section that is just incredible. Some of the most well-written, beautifully thematic, heartbreaking, thought-provoking, swoon-worthy, joy-building stories I've ever read have been fanfiction
This reminds me of the fact that my bookish friend group had 1 copy of After that they joke-gifted to each other on birthdays. Basically a cursed relic of an ancient time that nobody wanted in their house for too long. We were sixteen, but we already knew it was garbage 😭😂
In the books, after Hardin finds out about his dad, he gets drunk and lights his mom's house on fire. I kinda feel like that's how the 3rd movie should have ended (even though I think it's actually the beginning of book four) because at least, it would have been a dramatic climax. The relationship is toxic no matter what. Hardin sucks no matter what. The least they can do is make him suck in a way that is interesting to watch.
Trust us Grayson, we’re here for your commentary and not for the drama!!! I am absolutely loving your latest videos and content, can’t wait to see what else you do!
i watched these movies for the first time when i was like 13 and i thought it was sooooo cute. looking back, i realize how harmful they can be. it romanticizes very big red flags and shows that just because a guy throws a glass ***? at your feet, doesnt treat you with any respect, doesnt mean it’s a red flag! it means he loves you! like no…..
I don't know if this was mentioned in the video but did it piss anyone else off that Hardin, a acholic, took Tessa's dad, who btw is also a acholic, to a bar to get drunk and then started a bar fight while I'm pretty sure knowing that Tessa's dad was a acholic? And then after that Tessa just forgives Hardin for literally helping her dad feed into his addiction? Like that whole ordeal was so odd to me and definitely rubbed me the wrong way.
On of my biggest issues with this film/book/fanfiction (or whatever you want to call it) Is that it's SOOOOOO boring and so long for absolutely NO reason. None of the characters seem to have a life outside of Tessa and Hardin and their toxic disastrous relationship, their all there for them. Which is not what a good writer should do, characters, big or small should have a story background and have a function to be there not only just for the characters to make them look good, for example there was this one character who was a girl (I can't remember her) but she did the dirty with Hardin and he filmed it, it got spread online and she lost her scholarship to a school and then they meet up years later and the girl forgives Hardin. This was so annoying to see, 1. First of all, every victim of Hardin that shows up in this book just forgives him and it's all about how he feels so bad and if they don't accept his apology bla bla bla, not about how the girls had opportunities taken away from them because of Hardin, not how Hardin traumatized them, not how he ruined their lives and reputation, like why are you trying to make ME feel sympathetic for a literal ABUSER. 2. After this little interaction there was no other trace of her if I remember, it was just like she disappeared, we got no development because her character only exist to make Hardin feel and look good, like every single character in after except Tessa and she is BORING. Not to even start on the romanticization of the toxic relationship between these 2, After had a great potential to be a mystery series where Hardin manipulates Tessa and how she thinks he's so perfect and then finds all the other victims and decides to break up with him and move on, but no it just had to be another BORING movie about abusive relationships.
You don’t have to accept an apology from anyone. Especially if the person apologizing ruined your life. This is something that really bothers me. People who don’t accept apologies are seen as rude and petty. That is a *horrible* thing to tell people, especially people like Hardin and Tessa. For people like Hardin, it tells them that they can do whatever they want no matter how much it hurts another person, and all they have to do is apologize and then they’re able to just move on. And for people like Tessa, it tells them that they should push their feelings to the side and if someone treats them like shit they just need to suck it up. Either way, it fuels the cycle of abuse.
@@thequeenofcringe1585 Exactly, I am a firm believer in 2nd chances and that people can change but there is always a limit. And someone ruining your life, literally getting you kicked out of your house and making you loose your scholar ship to college and ruining your rep is wayyy past that line. Idc if it's a book it still feeds a harmful narrative, and that girl didn't have to accept ANY apology Hardin made bc he will never be able to repay her with all the opportunities she lost and all the chaos and drama he has caused in her life.
I think you found your niche, your film videos have been knocking it out of the park! I know you've expressed worry that switching from drama to this will flop, but I hope you keep it up and it works out! Awesome work Grayson 💕
I have always hated fanfics that include real people. Remember how danisnotonfire and Phil Lester were shipped and written about so much? So disrespectful
It even ruined dating each other for them, and was even more heinous because neither of them were out as queer and it put so much pressure on them regarding coming out. Because if they did earlier then it would have made the shipping even worse, but also even though it was all speculation it still basically outed them before they were ready.
@@Alex-fc8xn also Jacksepticeye and markiplier, they stopped doing vids together and took a break with their friendship because of the shipping, which is sad because they were honestly my favs and it was just sad watching it
Personally, I don’t really mind if a fanfic includes real people, as long as the real people have expressed that they are comfortable with people writing about them, and as long as the author respects the real people’s boundaries. As always, explicit consent is key.
Selma Blair being in these just made me realize how similar the plot of the first movie is to Cruel Intentions. Except Harden never really changes his ways and doesn't even have the decency to sacrifice himself for Tessa in the end.
My sister and I watched this when she had one of her m*ssc*rriages and how bad it was really cheered her up (although, she had a lot of problems with the problematic and toxic aspects of the relationships and storyline). We haven't ever watched the other two and I don't think we have the intention of doing it but we still talk about how horrible it was sometimes. Edit: As someone who lives in the south, I can say with certainty that it gets cold here and we do not run around in little sun dresses in December.
i am LOVING this style of content!! i can’t believe you were ever nervous about changing it up. it’s your channel and you deserve to do what you want with it. anything you make will be amazing
I feel like because of how we all used to write fanfiction (grammatical errors, plot holes, etc.) it probably should have never been made a series of films.
i always have believed that the first 2 books/movies could have been interesting and subversive if they never got back together and tessa left the relationship behind
I read the novels way back then, and let me tell you: THE MOVIES ARE BETTER. Because they cut a lot of crap. I had to give up, I think, at the third book because it got that insane. I was close to burning them in a ritual fire because NO. JUST NO. 🙈 I love these movie reviews btw. Popculture reviews / breakdowns are fun ♥️
this series is unhinged. i remember reading the physical books in seventh grade (at the recommendation of a friend) because they got PUBLISHED which was wild, and in the year of our lord 2022 i've been hate-watching the films. who let any of this happen honestly
i can't believe i was struggling to play this video bc i HATE After but when it ended I was just sad. 1 hour of grayson's commentary might not be enough anymore 👁
Thank you for constantly bringing up the time line lol it pissed me off so much! The 1st movie should have been the entirety of Tessa’s first year. The second movie with the internship should have been the summer between her second and third year. It could be some dramatic “it’s been a year since we’ve seen each other” or whatever. Then she could have had a full time internship where she’s working for the company for a few months, not the maybe 2 weeks she was there in the movie!? It would have made more sense that the company is offering her a position at the new branch; she could transfer schools before the new school year starts. The 3rd movie should have taken place in Tessa’s third year & Hardin’s fourth. So _that’s why_ everyone is talking about Hardin’s graduation and he and Tessa are arguing about where they’re going to live and what he’s going to do if he moves to Seattle!!!!
I have a faded memory about watching this movie a few years ago. Seeing this video has brought all those memories back, and knowing the truth behind it, doesn't change that I originally thought it was just a mediocre movie
as someone who was 13 when i read this book and wrote my own, i can bet that most of the flaws are purely because almost every teenfic/fanfic writer on wattpad was a child with no idea what they were doing lmao the 2 dimensional characters? the weird pacing? why there weren't any holidays to indicate passing of time? because i legit did not think about what month my story started and how long had passed since then :"D
Dude............ people on Tiktok were saying "After" was a good book so I tried it......... absolutely some of the WORST writing I've ever seen - and I can't believe it made itself become an official PUBLISHED series with a .... Tv series........ like wtf............ the standards are really THAT low?
Anna was a full grown adult when writing the after series and harry was a teenager or had barely turned 18. Gross
Ew wtf
That's disgusting
-also luv ur pfp btw lol-
if that's the case... she's earning a seat in hell, imma contact satan.
Jesus I was convinced she would have been like 13 or something like most fanfic writers!
and she was MARRIED AND SAID TESSA IS HER SELF INSERTING
Yeah I’m pretty sure she was like 23 or 26? Either way old asl to be making ff like this abt a barely legal teen
as someone who read the original fanfiction while anna todd (back then it was imaginator1d) was updating it i feel like it’s my personal duty to bring up that the original bet was for harry to take tessa’s virginity and he proved it to everyone by keeping the bloody sheets they had sex on and showed them to everyone. and then kept them in the trunk of his car. and then tessa still went back to him
AYO WHAT THE FUCK????
didnt he hit her in the books too? anna todd was actually insane and the fact that people don’t know harden is harry styles is infuriating bc it really makes it problematic
yeah didn’t he keep them for like months after lmao
THIS THIS THIS. Didn’t he also fix her car with the money he won from the bet - thinking it would somehow soften the blow? My memory is fuzzy (thank heavens) but I remember something like that 😆
He also kept the condom, didn’t he? I think he did. 😵💫
I knew someone who once tried to tell me they co-wrote After and my biggest question was just 'why would you brag about that lmao???'
😂😂😂😂
Bc they can
Ikr 💀
HAHAHHAHAHA THATS GREAT but youre so right, that’s not smth to brag about
I would’ve believed them
wattpad authors always gave y/n the worst polyvore outfits ever i was always redressing her in my head smh
I remember reading the like 2 male reader inserts and the outfits were SO bad and the worst hair I’ve ever seen
"she wore a grey crop top that said "SWAG" in the front that hung loosely on her body, with gray washed jeans and a plaid red blazer tied around her waist and brown combat boots, then she threw her hair up into a messy bun"
@@callyszt Screams basic tomboy, or try hard tomboy girl
@@Snow-xd4rv def try hard tomboy. My actual tomboy friends wore athletic wear a lot
@@Snow-xd4rv well it makes sense, she's "pArT Of tHe BoYs" and "the boyz" do not know how to dress like these gremlins will wear the WORST combination of Nike + puma like just clashing colors, tacky materials
My ex girlfriend made me watch the first movie with her and honestly it was the most homophobic thing she’s ever done 💀
The movie makes me heterophobic to be honest
i’m so 💀
Ah, I see why she’s an ex.
I’m so glad she’s your ex 😭
@@pale_apprentice it made me homophobic
Dang, poor Harry Styles.
Imagine knowing that there’s someone basically making you an abusive person in their story.
He actually has the author blocked on Twitter.
unfortunately it's a really common trope in 1D and other real people fanfics, there's a reason the "bad boy" trope is a joke among fic reader/writers
@@tsifirakiehl4250 i would too.
Unfortunately this is just a really common thing in fanfiction. The first fanfic I ever read was about Luke Hemmings, a member of five seconds of summer, in a relationship with a 16 year old girl that was the best friend of his daughter. The kicker was that Luke himself was barely 19 when it was written, so the author literally aged him up and made it problematic !
And then being INTO IT
it truly hurts my little fanfiction-enjoying heart that of all the insanely well written fanfics that could become popular and be made into movies, they keep choosing the absolute worst of the worst 😑
no fr ive come across some masterpieces and they choose THIS
yeah, all the fucking time, it's always the worst ones that stand out, for some reason
I've read fanfic that has wrecked my soul and altered the way I view the world. This....is not that.
any fanfic with titles that come from Hozier lyrics are much more deserving than this 😭😭😭 what a waste
@@MystiqMiu the one hiccup/jack frost ff i read on ao3 is more deserving than this for fucks sake 😭
it's actually so funny that the tattoo artist gave him alcohol because when getting a tattoo you're not supposed to drink because the colour won't stay as well on the skin and you'll bleed more 🤡
Literally was just about to comment this lol
I feel like there’s a lawsuit in there somewhere
i mean yea but it was from a fanfic book so eh
I was too stunned to speak when I saw it
For whole long? Because I might want to get a tattoo and I’m wondering how long
I remember when After released it’s first trailer, I didn’t know it was based on a book and thought it was a horror movie.
SAME I THOUGHT IT WAS A THRILLER!
I wanna like this but its at 69
My friend forced me to watch it and I just thought it was weird lmao
'what are you dreaming about' 💀
💀
when you said 'polyvore' i was physically thrown back to 2015. like, i remember opening ALL the links to see what the outfit inspo for certain chapters was. what a time
I had SEVERE flashbacks oh GOD I haven’t heard that word in years
Brb bringing this back
STOP I USED TO DO THAT 😭
#bringbackpolyvore ✊🏻
I miss polyvore so much. 😪😅
Honestly, this stuff wouldn’t be awful if it stayed in the realm of fanfiction… but it doesn’t so now we have this-
I feel like the shit show of the narrative/ messy plot lines are only acceptable in fanfic, it’s written by fans and is a passion project. But when they bring it to film, they have no excuse, they have millions to put into these movies ahah
@kshamwhizzle true some of the best writing I’ve read is from fanfic
@kshamwhizzle "10 Things I hate about you" is arguably a Shakespeare fanfiction and that one is a beloved classic
Nah this is bad even for fanfiction
It would still be awful.
Are we gonna talk about the drastic change of Tessa's behavior from the first movie to the second movie? In the first movie she seems shy and is afraid to speak up for herself and then the second movie happens and we're supposed to believe she is having these screaming matches and not wearing underwear to parties?? It's just so unrealistic. Also that would mean that Hardin literally brings out the WORST in her.
And the author seems to like, kinda acknowledge that it happened, or at least that things are abusive, but like, keeps it going? It’s just so bizzare
This whole series infuriated me. But the part that REALLY made my blood boil was when Tessa said "you can either f*ck me, or you leave." And Hardin/Harry actually had sex with her! Sir, you are literally taking advantage of someone when they are drunk! In the book she was so drunk that if she had another drop of alcohol, she would have passed out. I just really want to know why Anna Todd thought it was a GREAT idea to have that be their first sex scene after the huge betrayal in book 1.
@@pandorafreeman2242 Anna Todd definately knew how toxic/abusive their relationship was. But she tried to reassure us that Hardin's/Harry's a good guy because he never actually hit Tessa. Okay? But he still gaslights and manipulates the hell out of Tessa. Physical abuse isn't the only kind of abuse!
@@GamingWithGlacier I couldn't get past the first book itself, it was that bad. I don't get why the bad books get so many views on Wattpad and they get turned into movies. There are so many more better non bad boy ones over there.
@@mahekshah5788 Which book did you read? The Harry Styles fanfic, or the actual published book? /gen
unfortunately, i willingly endured the torture of watching all three movies around a month ago and it was hands down the worst 2 days of my life
and that says a lot because my life was never great at any point whatsoever 😹
are y’all…okay? why do this to yourselves??
The first one was enough for me 😭 I gave it a chance and after the disappointment I now only keep up with it through commentary videos (of course ones that agree with me that it sucks)
RIGHT OMFG the movies aren’t even good. In fact they’re just trash. The plot, the acting, the constant on again off again, the meaningless drama, etc. nothing in the movie has a single purpose, it’s all just a glorified toxic relationship.
You guys shouldn't fund this stuff. Literally no one is forcing you to watch it. You already know its trash. Why continue to fund the creator and her future projects??
There might not be a restraining order, but in an interview the author did say that Harry Styles has her blocked on twitter, lmao.
Rightfully so 😭 that author wrote some weird shit about him. I would’ve done the same thing.
As he SHOULD oml
Good on Harry because this author wrote some creepy shit about him 😶
Good on the man
My biggest question throughout the entire trilogy was when tf did Tessa graduate that she even got the qualifications to land an internship that would land her on fckin Seattle, like she did a literal semester and popped off. Did Hardin even graduate? How did they both not fail.
fr tho, like girlie landed a BIG intership after only one semester, and was able to grow in it insanely fast in a timespan of like... a month? Like who in their right mind would hire an eighteen year old and give her that much responsibility? No one would've given me that opportunity after only a semester at college, nor do I know anyone who would have, either.
@@arwen7755 convenience for the plot I guess lmao
Hardin spent more time getting drunk and being mad at Tessa than doing actual homework
@@shantall. Oh yeah, definitely lol. Things like this one shows it was written by someone on Wattpad lmao
as far as i know, in the book she got that job bc of hardin's dad. But my memory could be wrong
It's Nepotism🤣
the "unyassified version of avril lavigne's 'complicated'" comment took me tf out LMAO
apparently that was a cover by the girl who sang "I hate you I love u" from musically...
Imagine if this existed in the days of Elvis, The Beatles, or Michael Jackson or some of the other most famous people to ever live
Gimme some ELVIS fan fiction, please!
imagine the ship wars
Or during the time of Franz Liszt who was one of the first musicians with an absolutely thirsty as hell fandom who would throw underwear onto his stage and would take his hair, coffee dregs, or even cigar stumps and made them into lockets and such IN THE 1840s!
It was so intense that some doctors genuinely thought it was a mental illness of some sort with ladies fainting left and right and acting obsessive over him
@@Alex-fc8xn at least we know that its not just our generation that're fucked.
its the whole human race 🤷♀️
Reading bad YA romances as a teen made me look for the exact opposite in men lol. I want soft lovable men, same with women but the romances back when I was a teen didn’t dare have an ounce of bisexuality lol.
Yo same here,but like,at least we can recognize toxicity better now lol
@@DC_let_the_Waynes_be_happy lol true, I also had a tendency to get crushes on assholes when I was a teen so once I grew up I was like “ yeah I’m never doing that again”
For me it made me realize that I'm a lesbian,,, it took me like a few years but then it made sense lol
Same!!
im glad I read toxic ass ff cuz now I don't even associate w ppl that r bad for me
god i love horrifically bad films. this might even beat the kissing booth series
i still have yet to see the kissing booth maybe i should watch it
@@graysonsprojects yes!
@@graysonsprojects please do!! i absolutely love to see ur takes on stuff
the kissing booth 🤝 the after series
80% boring montages
the kissing booth series was amazing. i binged it in 3 days (way after they came out). obviously super bad & cheesy but my jaw was to the floor at so many points bc of how wild it was. jacob elordis (that’s his name right idk nate from euphoria lol) accent slipped at one point & im shook they didn’t do a retake & just left it in. i also cried a lot bc i’m a fucking sap. i really hope we get another one that fills in the time jump from the 3rd one.
I love how no one take about the fact she literally cheated on her ex in the first movie like…it’s just…swept under the rug??
i don’t think it’s swept under the rug? she does show up to his school either in the book or the movie and they do talk and then i think he says he’s met a new girl but they’ve been friends for so long that he doesn’t resent her.
no cause it's written in a way where Tessa is portrayed to be right bc "Hardin is her true love" GIRL IDC SHE STILL CHEATED
@@juliashaul2660
It really did look like the whole story swept the whole thing under the rug...
Tessa, still in a relationship then, was instantly ok with having inappropriate interactions with another man *behind her boyfriend's back* ...
She wasn't hesitant or showing signs of weighing on the legitimacy of her actions. She was ok with lying and abusing someone's trust from the get-go, and the story tried to portray her as a kind and innocent person???
What kind of kind person could be this abusive??? She hurt people, and the damages on others were just barely acknowledged...
@@callyszt I FELT SO BAD FOR HER EX
HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING
Noah was done so dirty.
my friend and I hate-watched the After series and I genuinely cannot tell you a single thing that happens in these movies. They are so unmemorable and infuriating, also why was dylan sprouse in the second movie like what
He did it for a check. He was an employee 🤣
Yeah I only watched the first movie and all I can remember is that scene at the pier? Idk
@@Miipmiip lmao I just remember that "Us" played at some point in the movie
My friend and I watched it over Netflix party and I still have screenshots of our texts. My favorite one by her is in response to harden reason gatsby to seem quirky. “It’s not impressive or quirky, it’s a high school requirement”. One of mine that made her lol was that Hardin “looks like someone who thinks you need a high IQ to enjoy Rick and Morty”
my memory is so bad of these i thought it was cole not dylan 💀
I am DYING at the way you’re describing this stuff😭 “emo amy schumer” “deyassified version of complicated”
"the scream I scrumpt"
My friend and I literally could not stop making fun of him during the second movie we’d just randomly yell out FOCKIN TREVOH😭 But Dylan was the only person I seriously enjoyed in this series😭
i like that you don’t refer to dylan sprouse as trevor but instead as dylan sprouse, in full, every time you mention him
the biggest plot hole is how tf she landed her dream job her SECOND SEMESTER OF COLLEGE and then managed to not fail out of school???
This is literally the SMALLEST detail ever compared to the rest of the shot show of a movie but,, the tattoo scene… you’re advised against drinking the day before bc it thins your blood and makes you bleed (also just.. the intoxication too)
so my friend (she’s 15 i am too) is OBSESSED with the after movies (and books). i never watched them but i thought i’d watch this video just to get some insight on what she’s talking about and now i don’t know what the fuck to do because she continues to ramble on and on about how hardin is the ideal boyfriend and how she’s so jealous of tessa and everything so now i’m genuinely concerned for her because on top of this she’s a very insecure girl (tw. has struggled a lot with an ed to the point where she couldn’t go to school or do any of her passions because of it) and so this is just extremely harmful. i wrote down this comment because i highly doubt that she’s the only person who’s creating weird expectations and ideals for relationships in the future so these type of movies are probably just as harmful as everyone thinks
It's honestly depressing what movies like this do to young ignorant children. Coming from a 15 year old as well, it's honestly a relief she has a friend like you by her side because if she's actually in a situation where she believes that kind of relationship is healthy then she needs a friend to tell her the truth. You can either educate her on it or just let her grow out of it, because she'll probably grow older and start realizing that it's not something to idolize.
The books are more concerning than the movies honestly. There are scenes where he abuses her and (keeps the blood-stained sheets they had sex on to prove that he took her virginity to his friends...yeah) and etc, this is only information I pulled from other comments since I am not going to waste my time reading the books, but it's just so disturbing and gross.
Carrying on, I wish your friend the best and hopefully she doesn't fall into a toxic relationship of her own. This video talks about After in much more depth, but if you want to watch a commentary that reacts to it and shows more of the toxic scenes, I personally recommend 'Dylan is in Trouble' he makes a lot of jokes but hearing the actual scenes makes you hate hardin much more. :)
@@dontyellatmeicryeasily3788 thank you very much!!!
Your friend is lucky to have someone like you who is invested in her well-being. I hope your friend gets the love, help, and support she needs from other sources in her life as well because you’re right, it does set a terrible precedent and opens the door for those weird and unhealthy relationship dynamics. I read the After series when i was 14/15 years old and I felt the same way as your friend. I ended up getting into a relationship similar to the one in the series in college, and I definitely think the series influenced me to idealize Hardin and Tessa’s relationship and accept one in my own life so yikes lmao. Definitely don’t think we’re the only ones either, but I’m glad you see it at the very least
Just know that your support for her well-being is enough, just being a good friend is enough. But if you want to talk to her about it, I would. Maybe she just doesn’t know. I kinda knew it was wrong but getting some attention and validation even the bad kind was better than nothing because I really didn’t think there was any way someone would validate me in a healthy way. She might not listen and I wouldn’t push it too hard, but having someone who cares about her express a different opinion about it and offer an alternative might help if you are looking to bring it up with her. Although keep in mind that she is not your responsibility, even though you certainly care about her and want to show it, you are already doing enough just by being supportive
Dude are we the same person i'm also 15 and my friend is obsessed with this too i did already know all about after before and i tried to tell her about how horrible the whole thing is but she just doesn't listen she tells me i just dont get it and that its real romance and that he has childhood trauma thats why he does all the bad stuff and just i dont know what to do? Its really scary and it seems like there's nothing i can do i wanted to send her a video essay like this but she said she wont watch its horrible that literal children are reading this stuff and thinking abuse is okay god
i have only consumed these movies through other people, and my favourite lines have to be form the second one
"fucking trevor?!" "you're toxic, and you're bad news!" never fail to makeme laugh
My favorite: “I’m drunk uncomfortable and just saw a tampon on the floor. I want to go home.”
@@alyssapinon9670 lmao in the german version he says he stepped on a tampon
@@blondedyu that’s even better 😂
I got drunk with my boyfriend once and we thought watching the first movie would be fun. We were both so frustrated at EVERYTHING that we spent all the run time sitting in angry silence
FOCKEN TREVUH
the second movie is definitely the best one because if you watch it like it’s a comedy it’s the funniest movie you’ll ever see. i swear on it
versus the third movie which was so unbelievably boring and also infuriating that i could barely sit through it
My friends and I have watched the second one SO MANY times because we just view it as a comedy. I fully second that it’s the funniest movie you’ll watch, as long as you don’t take it seriously lol
Yeah I watched the first one and then the second one in one night and after the elevator scene i fucking pissed myself everytime Dylan was on screen
FOCKHING TREVAH
if i had a man like trevor in my life i'd literally never complain about anything ever again he's an angel
SAME! Won’t hurt if he looks like Dylan sprouts too
I DO HAVE A MAN LIKE TREVOR IN MY LIFE CAN CONFIRM COMPLETE ANGEL
trevors too good for tessa imo
As an original and fan fiction wattpad author, I apologize deeply for the monstrosities created by our species.
I believe I was a second gen wattpad author and same, literally some of the fanfic I've read from my friends is like ☠
There are countless upon countless amazing fan fictions online that creators would kill to have be published/adapted to screen. This series is the biggest slap in the face to the writing community I’ve ever seen bro
I love Wattpad and it is really sad that so many good books are ignored or never given a chance to be published❤
⚠️ TW:- mentions of sex*al ass*ult ⚠️
I don't know if anyone mentioned this yet, but in the book 1 (yes, I hate myself enough to have read it), before Tessa and Hardin's first kiss at the frat party, she's almost sexually assaulted, and she runs into Hardin's room for protection and that basically starts off their "romance" and...
Well, what had we even expected from such romance, right?
My favorite fact about After:
During the promotional period of the movie "Pride, Prejudice & Zombies", the PR team collaborated with Wattpad to create zombie versions of more "literary classics" on the site. Anna Todd herself re-wrote the whole first chapter to be an apocalyptic zombie world where flesh eating monsters are still angels compared the rotten personality of fake Harry Styles
Omg I remember that!
The After Saga will always never sit right with me; knowing this was a whole fanfiction series about Harry Styles just makes me cringe in the worst ways. I love Harry to death, but this series is all around plain weird to me . . . 💀
Well Harry blocked Anna Todd on social media so he’s not a fan either
Not to mention, Harry was 19 and Anna was 24 when she first wrote After… talk about creepy. Also, that woman was (and somehow still is) MARRIED at the time.
Like why would a married woman in her mid 20’s write smut about a teenager?! If their genders were reversed it would be more controversial.
Nah but imagine being written abt as some abusive toxic asf fucking asshole, like I would genuinely be so horrified and pissed off. Poor guy
i’ll never not see creepy fanfic about REAL ppl as weird..
I find fanfic about celebs weird in general. Fictional characters are fine but real people just feels uncomfortable to me
In an alternate universe the After saga ends with the second movie without them getting together. Tessa gets with Trevor, they adopt a puppy and have a nice life together. Harden goes to therapy in England and actually fixes his shit. That's it the end
I would love this
That sounds so pleasant
I truly think it's criminal that this series is marketed to teens and tweens as romance. What? You simply should not be allowed to tell impressionable young people that this is an acceptable relationship or even an aspirational relationship. In general I'm not in favor of censorship but I feel like something needs to be done with this series.
The title for the fourth movie makes no sense.. After Ever Happy? It shouldn't even exist, I'd honestly say After is tge worst wattpad adapted movie series
after ever happy....? whattt
LITERALLY i had trouble reading the title when i first saw it
@@graysonsprojects Right?? I guess it'd make some sense if it was ever after happy or happy ever after🤨 they really just slapped two words with after and called it a day. I mean I guess they're adamant on after always being the first word
@@totallynotrennie ikr it makes no sense
deadass lmfao
As an aspiring tattoo artist I got so pissed at the alcohol tattoo scene. Alcohol thins the blood meaning you bleed more making it insanely hard to tattoo a person (a tattoo that looks good at least).
i would like to point out a couple of things:
1 a flight from london to atlanta is 8-9 hours, you can’t just fly back and forth (also it’s like, expensive)
2 if i lived in London and wanted to go to college in the states i wouldn’t choose fing Atlanta (also paying so much to live, study and travel to the us just for a literature degree (?) is lowkey pointless and jut not logical)
Yeah this is a man who failed his A levels 🤣
I mean isn't his dad the dean of the college? I wouldn't be surprised if he somehow pulled some strings or something to get Hardin in and that is the only university Hardin could get into.
After my wife passed away, I went through a phase where I watched a lot of romance movies. I was gonna check this one out, then I looked up a plot synopsis and saw it was yet another "Girl cheats on her boyfriend who did nothing to deserve it, but somehow she's still the protagonist of the story" movies, and I skipped it. Sadly, thanks to Netflix, that plotline has become an entire genre of its own, and movies/shows in it are often praised as being progressive and empowering....because reasons I guess.
It is weird… like why can’t these characters be single?? Or would being single signal that she’s “undesirable” or something 🙄 also I’m very sorry for your loss
I honestly hate every aspect of this genre, no matter which way around it is. IT IS THE WORST. Whether the MC cheats, the love interest, or even the MC trying to steal her crush from someone else and it being frames like they did nothing wrong and the "belong together". Worse trope ever...
Also, I'm very sorry for your loss. I hope that the romance movies that you did watch brought you some comfort.
I genuinely feel bad for the members of One Direction because of the existence of these headcannons. It’s baffling how the a wattpad fanfiction they had no say in would spur a literal film.
the way my friends back then mocked me for reading fanfics and then years later proceeded to read the books and watch the movies and tell me how good they are… besties
the fact that Tessa has all of Anna Todd's physical traits (blonde, blue eyes) but in a more typical ``beauty standard`` slimmer body confirms the really notorious self-insert
in the original fanfic tessa describes herself as like curvier and gets insecure about her size compared to harry/hardin’s and it comes up quite a bit
i remember when i first saw a photo of anna after reading the three fanfics i immediately saw how much of a self insert it was
idk how it is in the books but in the movie they pick a more “standard” looking tessa
I was once at a bookstore where there were the after books. I legit told the manager "did anyone even buy those? I mean those are literal abominations" i still stand by those words.
Did anyone buy them?
@@skitterly I checked yesterday, the book was not in the store, i asked and someone had lent it, pls pray for the soul :)
@@jahnavidhir8796 may they rest in peace because they are definitely not getting the time they wasted back.
“Are we ready to move on to the sequel?” About as ready as I am to move on to the next stage of cancer
im so sorry for everyone that wasted time and money on watching this series, but im even more sorry for the people who, like me, were dumb enough to read the whole thing.
the books are even worse.
if you havent read them, do yourself a favour and DONT EVEN TRY.
they’re also like harry potter thick ass books no worth the time
I second this. DO NOT READ THEM, if you have any kind of love for yourself left 😆
@@roxyzaraza111 literally, how were them so fucking long and i DONT REMEMBER A SINGLE THING ab the plot???
@@lu-__- each book was atleast like 600 something pages. i don’t remember anything except that he would genuinely abused her and that they had really gross sex all the time
@@lu-__- it’s insane that they took out all the physical abuse and was 1000x times more controlling in the books and in the movie hes a misunderstood angry kid
You know an actress/actor is good when you truly hate their character
hardin's character is just as annoying either way with bad or good acting
not when that character is supposed to be likeable.. i mean if it's a villain i get it...
Why does Hardens british accent sound so fake, but he's actually british 😶
I THOUGHT THE SAME THING
I suspect the actor was instructed to imitate Harry styles .
The actor is from a different part of England than Harry. So his natural accent messes with his attempts to do whatever sort Harry has.
just learned they made a sequel, i’m now in mourning
Not only did they make a sequel, there's already three parts with the fourth coming up
There are like 7 books of it :(
@@ratstanduser why they need 7 books 😭😭
@@ratstanduser my mother just bought and read all five of them 😖
It’s the kind of romance I would want to read but uh, not this please
I've never wanted to watch After because of the age gap between the author and harry when she wrote it. so so glad you made a video on this because I have always been kinda curious
These movies are why fanfiction gets a bad reputation, any time a "normal" (i guess lmao) person hears the word 'fanfiction' they immediately link it to things like this. Its pretty sad when things such as The Childrens Rebellion etc. get compared to things like this just because its also fanfiction. (This is not negative to you or anyone, just a small rant)
It was a great video!
can we STOP turning fanfiction into actual books like plsss
Why not tho? Personally, having fanfiction turn into published books is okay just not a movie adaptation if it's bad with cardboard characters and S.A. lololol
@@Raikantopini-b4k Lets stop turning bad fanfiction or fanfiction about real people into real books*
Fanfics about real people is creepy and can be harmful when you have a large following and a lot of them don't always know the difference between fiction and reality. I remember reading fanfics of certain people and a lot of people thinking the things about the people were true cause it was a common fanfic trope. 😪
No. Honestly after is just a really bad example of fanfiction but since these are the types of stories that tend to get published everyone seems to assume that this is what all fanfiction is like. In reality, the vast majority of it is OK, not great not terrible but then there's also some fan section that is just incredible. Some of the most well-written, beautifully thematic, heartbreaking, thought-provoking, swoon-worthy, joy-building stories I've ever read have been fanfiction
Fan fictions like these*
This reminds me of the fact that my bookish friend group had 1 copy of After that they joke-gifted to each other on birthdays. Basically a cursed relic of an ancient time that nobody wanted in their house for too long. We were sixteen, but we already knew it was garbage 😭😂
hardon looks like the guys i used to design for my episode stories when i was 12
PLEASE 💀💀💀💀💀
I SCREAMED
CRYING
Oh- my- god- same, now I know why he looked so familiar 😭
Sorry to go off topic Grayson but your hair looks so pretty! And I’m loving your eyeliner 🥰
it’s giving stayc yoon
In the books, after Hardin finds out about his dad, he gets drunk and lights his mom's house on fire. I kinda feel like that's how the 3rd movie should have ended (even though I think it's actually the beginning of book four) because at least, it would have been a dramatic climax. The relationship is toxic no matter what. Hardin sucks no matter what. The least they can do is make him suck in a way that is interesting to watch.
Trust us Grayson, we’re here for your commentary and not for the drama!!! I am absolutely loving your latest videos and content, can’t wait to see what else you do!
i watched these movies for the first time when i was like 13 and i thought it was sooooo cute. looking back, i realize how harmful they can be. it romanticizes very big red flags and shows that just because a guy throws a glass ***? at your feet, doesnt treat you with any respect, doesnt mean it’s a red flag! it means he loves you! like no…..
as an avid harry stan who is having a harry themed 16th birthday tomorrow, i’m ashamed to have seen 2/3 after movies
happy birthday!!
happy birthday ♥️
@@avery3400 THANK YOU!! love the pfp btw
@@decolonial TYSM
Happy Birthday🎂
I don't know if this was mentioned in the video but did it piss anyone else off that Hardin, a acholic, took Tessa's dad, who btw is also a acholic, to a bar to get drunk and then started a bar fight while I'm pretty sure knowing that Tessa's dad was a acholic? And then after that Tessa just forgives Hardin for literally helping her dad feed into his addiction? Like that whole ordeal was so odd to me and definitely rubbed me the wrong way.
I think if anything, these kinds of romances just set the bar really low
On of my biggest issues with this film/book/fanfiction (or whatever you want to call it) Is that it's SOOOOOO boring and so long for absolutely NO reason. None of the characters seem to have a life outside of Tessa and Hardin and their toxic disastrous relationship, their all there for them. Which is not what a good writer should do, characters, big or small should have a story background and have a function to be there not only just for the characters to make them look good, for example there was this one character who was a girl (I can't remember her) but she did the dirty with Hardin and he filmed it, it got spread online and she lost her scholarship to a school and then they meet up years later and the girl forgives Hardin. This was so annoying to see,
1. First of all, every victim of Hardin that shows up in this book just forgives him and it's all about how he feels so bad and if they don't accept his apology bla bla bla, not about how the girls had opportunities taken away from them because of Hardin, not how Hardin traumatized them, not how he ruined their lives and reputation, like why are you trying to make ME feel sympathetic for a literal ABUSER. 2. After this little interaction there was no other trace of her if I remember, it was just like she disappeared, we got no development because her character only exist to make Hardin feel and look good, like every single character in after except Tessa and she is BORING. Not to even start on the romanticization of the toxic relationship between these 2, After had a great potential to be a mystery series where Hardin manipulates Tessa and how she thinks he's so perfect and then finds all the other victims and decides to break up with him and move on, but no it just had to be another BORING movie about abusive relationships.
You don’t have to accept an apology from anyone. Especially if the person apologizing ruined your life.
This is something that really bothers me. People who don’t accept apologies are seen as rude and petty. That is a *horrible* thing to tell people, especially people like Hardin and Tessa. For people like Hardin, it tells them that they can do whatever they want no matter how much it hurts another person, and all they have to do is apologize and then they’re able to just move on. And for people like Tessa, it tells them that they should push their feelings to the side and if someone treats them like shit they just need to suck it up. Either way, it fuels the cycle of abuse.
@@thequeenofcringe1585 Exactly, I am a firm believer in 2nd chances and that people can change but there is always a limit. And someone ruining your life, literally getting you kicked out of your house and making you loose your scholar ship to college and ruining your rep is wayyy past that line. Idc if it's a book it still feeds a harmful narrative, and that girl didn't have to accept ANY apology Hardin made bc he will never be able to repay her with all the opportunities she lost and all the chaos and drama he has caused in her life.
WHEN THIS BECAME A MOVIE, PEOPLE LITERALLY GOT SO PISSED AND IT WAS SO FUNNY 💀💀 BUT IT'S SO BAD....
I think you found your niche, your film videos have been knocking it out of the park! I know you've expressed worry that switching from drama to this will flop, but I hope you keep it up and it works out! Awesome work Grayson 💕
I have always hated fanfics that include real people. Remember how danisnotonfire and Phil Lester were shipped and written about so much? So disrespectful
It even ruined dating each other for them, and was even more heinous because neither of them were out as queer and it put so much pressure on them regarding coming out. Because if they did earlier then it would have made the shipping even worse, but also even though it was all speculation it still basically outed them before they were ready.
Oh my god you just reminded me of the time I was like 8 years old and I found my sisters phil fanfic in her notebook 💀
@@Alex-fc8xn also Jacksepticeye and markiplier, they stopped doing vids together and took a break with their friendship because of the shipping, which is sad because they were honestly my favs and it was just sad watching it
Personally, I don’t really mind if a fanfic includes real people, as long as the real people have expressed that they are comfortable with people writing about them, and as long as the author respects the real people’s boundaries. As always, explicit consent is key.
so sad out of all the fanfics on wattpad, after gets a movie like there’s actually good stuff on there
Selma Blair being in these just made me realize how similar the plot of the first movie is to Cruel Intentions. Except Harden never really changes his ways and doesn't even have the decency to sacrifice himself for Tessa in the end.
I loved this video, gave me the good laughs. I'm really enjoying the direction you are going with your videos!
Finding out both tessa AND Joseph Stalin share a birthday with me is not what I thought was going to happen today
"harvey?"
"the scream i scruMPT"
"literally cinema babes"
this is one of my favorite videos on the after series is2g, i can't stop watching it
My sister and I watched this when she had one of her m*ssc*rriages and how bad it was really cheered her up (although, she had a lot of problems with the problematic and toxic aspects of the relationships and storyline). We haven't ever watched the other two and I don't think we have the intention of doing it but we still talk about how horrible it was sometimes.
Edit: As someone who lives in the south, I can say with certainty that it gets cold here and we do not run around in little sun dresses in December.
i am LOVING this style of content!! i can’t believe you were ever nervous about changing it up. it’s your channel and you deserve to do what you want with it. anything you make will be amazing
I’m glad you talked about this. I’m a new Harry fan and the fanfics are….concerning to say the least.
I feel like because of how we all used to write fanfiction (grammatical errors, plot holes, etc.) it probably should have never been made a series of films.
i always have believed that the first 2 books/movies could have been interesting and subversive if they never got back together and tessa left the relationship behind
it tickles me that fanfic writers always put their OFC on the track to work in the publishing industry - as if that's not where dreams go to die.
I read the novels way back then, and let me tell you: THE MOVIES ARE BETTER.
Because they cut a lot of crap.
I had to give up, I think, at the third book because it got that insane. I was close to burning them in a ritual fire because NO. JUST NO. 🙈
I love these movie reviews btw. Popculture reviews / breakdowns are fun ♥️
this series is unhinged. i remember reading the physical books in seventh grade (at the recommendation of a friend) because they got PUBLISHED which was wild, and in the year of our lord 2022 i've been hate-watching the films. who let any of this happen honestly
This didn't feel like an hour video it's so entertaining and you're so thorough and hilarious. I truly love this content
I salute you. Going through those movies must've been a PAIN
I’m loving how passionate you were in this video, been following since 70k subs:) I’m excited to see where this channel is going
I read all the books. I need to be financially compensated for what I endured
you're hilarious, died laughing at you getting heated at the clothing and seasons lore 😭 great video and analysis
i can't believe i was struggling to play this video bc i HATE After but when it ended I was just sad. 1 hour of grayson's commentary might not be enough anymore 👁
I love whenever you suddenly jump into a british accent it catches me off guard everytime
My toxic trait was thinking I wouldn’t cringe while watching these movies
i love your movie reviews! this new type of content is amazing i love these!! thank you :)
the dog sounds omg im dying 😭
Literally After is exactly what I imagine if every wattpad book were to become one book then turned into a movie.
"the scream i scrumped at this scene was insane"
pure art
Thank you for constantly bringing up the time line lol it pissed me off so much!
The 1st movie should have been the entirety of Tessa’s first year.
The second movie with the internship should have been the summer between her second and third year. It could be some dramatic “it’s been a year since we’ve seen each other” or whatever. Then she could have had a full time internship where she’s working for the company for a few months, not the maybe 2 weeks she was there in the movie!? It would have made more sense that the company is offering her a position at the new branch; she could transfer schools before the new school year starts.
The 3rd movie should have taken place in Tessa’s third year & Hardin’s fourth. So _that’s why_ everyone is talking about Hardin’s graduation and he and Tessa are arguing about where they’re going to live and what he’s going to do if he moves to Seattle!!!!
She cuts her hand on the glass which leads to the big reveal that Harry/Hardin was actually a vampire all along making this a twilight crossover fic!
The book was genuinely disgusting, Hardin/ Harry was so toxic and disgusting. It teaches young kids that this kinda relationship is okay. It is not.
I have a faded memory about watching this movie a few years ago. Seeing this video has brought all those memories back, and knowing the truth behind it, doesn't change that I originally thought it was just a mediocre movie
You’re right. The movies were most likely made for the original fans of the After series because it makes no sense to anyone else
GREAT VALUE ZAYN MALIK HAD ME IN A CHOKEHOLD
You saying Polyvore at 7:35 in the year of our lord 2022, shot me back to being 12 and making those exact “coffee date with niall” outfits
Whenever I hear Hardin I can’t help but hear Hard on and I shed a tear every time
as someone who was 13 when i read this book and wrote my own, i can bet that most of the flaws are purely because almost every teenfic/fanfic writer on wattpad was a child with no idea what they were doing lmao
the 2 dimensional characters? the weird pacing? why there weren't any holidays to indicate passing of time?
because i legit did not think about what month my story started and how long had passed since then :"D
But the problem is the author wrote that fanfiction when she was an adult.
we really need to appreciate that grayson edited this ENTIRE hour-long video
Dude............ people on Tiktok were saying "After" was a good book so I tried it......... absolutely some of the WORST writing I've ever seen - and I can't believe it made itself become an official PUBLISHED series with a .... Tv series........ like wtf............ the standards are really THAT low?