" Once you become addicted to this shit, that's what happens." I've had the 1/2" router with all the trimmings for about a month, and it is baddass on all fronts. Nice review mate.
Looks like they nailed it with the plunge base. the press to plunge lever is a much nicer way to work than conventional plunge and lock levers I’m used too. being a makita user I’m so used to using my 1/4inch and it’s been so long I don’t even care for a makita 1/2inch now. my workflows changed…doubt It’ll be 18v if they do bring one out, probably 40v. il get this Milwaukee one and a badaptor for my makita batts.
Instead of releasing 40V tools such as jigsaw, multitool or routers, Makita is giving us vacuum cleaner, microwave and other crap. The XGT users in the US are waiting anxiously for more tool releases!
@@srcultureshock I personally like Makita's vacuums but for microwaves and other stuff - I agree, it would be better to release some essential tools first. Btw jigsaw is available in some parts of the world
Seems like a nice tool. I've got the Hikoki 36V 1/2" one - and it is a brilliant router. Smooth, well made and powerful. Don't really see the need of other bases than a plunge one, we have the smaller palm routers for other stuff. So I think Hikoki has nailed down the concept of a bigger, more powerful 1/2" router.
Nice review. My US Router only came only with a 1/2 and 1/4 collect. I wish my Millwaukee Trim router cam with the handle. Hoping I can pick up a red track when I am in Indonesia in May😀
I've had the shaft lock button on the little M18 slip so many times that I stopped using the button and just use two wrenches. Two wrenches ALWAYS works.
Good review mate, over the pond neighbor here, going by where I got mine they've recalled the track attachment for not having those anti tip stay thingo's... I reckon some knobs probably used it on the saw side of the track on the edge of a board and tipped it. Your right about the weight single hand work is tiring on the arm, chamfered 360° around 20 decking board ends the other day arm was ready to fall off.
I just saw that Milwaukee Australia got a $15 million fine for price fixing. I know they need to have the statement on their site but are they doing any refunds or reducing prices now?
@jaival_rhaine most tests are even. Grinder was best in favour of forge at 20% more power. Doubt it's enough as the Hikoki is more than 20% faster here. If it matches the Hikoki, it'll only be doing it for
Yeah I was like wth, Milwaukee uses 15 40t cells and hikoki 10 of them. And it wasn't even close lol, Milwaukee always advertises its power but I think they are feeling the limitations of 18v system...
Have to agree on the placement of the guide rail position, that looks very awkward to use on the Milwaukee, I've used Hitachi corded routers for many years.
I have had the hikoki a little over a year well it’s actually of the mhpt branded flavor but it’s a phenomenal tool and imo, the 1/2” router one of the tools along with the deep cut bandsaw and theyve had the best gasless nailers for years imo and lightweight circ saws, their 7” cordless miter saw, the cordless compressor, & those are all great so imo those tools kept me from leaving the platform entirely (out of bitterness😂😢) for red as hikoki can be a bad choice for cats who want the newly released tools & here’s why, when it comes to hikoki/metabo hpt the brand structure is somewhat disjointed and you never know if a tool is even going to be released in your country forget about when…idek if mhpt employees know what’s coming down the pipe too much further out that the general public tbh but for instance the barrel grip jigsaw has never even been released in the states, and it looks to be a great tool with very very little information, videos, or reviews to be seen on it, that as well as the 230mm beast of a grinder I’d love to see those vids
Appatently angled base isn't that important and not available separately. I did confirm that you CAN use the track guide or standard guide with dust extraction at the same time, but a corded 1/2 full size is fine really especially when already tied to a vacuum hose. I wish it cut deeper and longer profiles!
my tracksaw also doesn't have the anti tip feature here in the EU. apparently, in some markets makita has a patent that doesnt allow milwaukee to ship them everywhere.
Would you mind measuring the spacing of the guide rail bars where they connect to the router and the diameter. It looks similar to my Ridgid plunge router that doesn’t have an adapter for guide rails. Would definitely order that adapter if it fit
Holy shit I got something BEFORE you did!!!! I had to wait for Milwaukee NZ to send it to the seller, it was that new to NZ. Got it for a steal though - $982 INCLUDING GST.
So which do you prefer? Hikoki or Milwaukee? .. I have the hikoki , haven’t used it yet though, but heard good things about it.. got sick of waiting for makita to show there hand .. apparently the Milwaukee is unsuitable for kitchen worktops in the uk , due to the collets being metric and only a depth of 38mm can be achieved.. not sure 🤔 how true this is …
hey. 55+MM through solid material is fine, though obviously not in one pass. I have a 60mm flush trim bit for the final cut and it doesn't struggle in the slightest to do my final cut in one pass@@kuki3069
I’ll take my Hikoki any day, that thing smashed hardwood 14mm deep with mitre jointer and it was sooo good surprisingly powerful more than I even expected 😅 That being said if you already have the batteries, say fuck it and buy some Hikoki gear they are killing it with some of their stuff. 23g nailer not so much Milwaukee one that round. 😂 the rainbow tool collection is the one way to go.
@@bigboundsysays the guy who didn't own them Go ahead and keep using overpriced colors that have shit warrantees, no backwards compatibility and no AC power options The green keeps making our construction and shop.work.lots.of $$$
Festool tracksaw vs Hikoki, what’s your thoughts since you’re one of the few with the Hikoki tracksaw because they had a warehouse fire apparently and aren’t selling a kit version yet.
" Once you become addicted to this shit, that's what happens." I've had the 1/2" router with all the trimmings for about a month, and it is baddass on all fronts. Nice review mate.
The track adapter is rad!! Thinking I could take a solid core slab door and route grooves for a custom look
The Festool ratchet lever clamps are great at sliding in the groove under the track and stopping it from sliding around
Looks like they nailed it with the plunge base. the press to plunge lever is a much nicer way to work than conventional plunge and lock levers I’m used too. being a makita user I’m so used to using my 1/4inch and it’s been so long I don’t even care for a makita 1/2inch now. my workflows changed…doubt It’ll be 18v if they do bring one out, probably 40v. il get this Milwaukee one and a badaptor for my makita batts.
We all need 1/2" router with XGT label :)
Instead of releasing 40V tools such as jigsaw, multitool or routers, Makita is giving us vacuum cleaner, microwave and other crap. The XGT users in the US are waiting anxiously for more tool releases!
@@srcultureshock I personally like Makita's vacuums but for microwaves and other stuff - I agree, it would be better to release some essential tools first. Btw jigsaw is available in some parts of the world
Barrel and D-Handle Jigsaws have been released on XGT. D-handle review in a few days time...
Agreed, I waited & waited … and folded for the hikoki …
I want a xgt multitool. I still need to bring lxt battery just for the multitool.
Seems like a nice tool. I've got the Hikoki 36V 1/2" one - and it is a brilliant router. Smooth, well made and powerful.
Don't really see the need of other bases than a plunge one, we have the smaller palm routers for other stuff. So I think Hikoki has nailed down the concept of a bigger, more powerful 1/2" router.
Nice review. My US Router only came only with a 1/2 and 1/4 collect. I wish my Millwaukee Trim router cam with the handle. Hoping I can pick up a red track when I am in Indonesia in May😀
I've had the shaft lock button on the little M18 slip so many times that I stopped using the button and just use two wrenches. Two wrenches ALWAYS works.
Good review mate, over the pond neighbor here, going by where I got mine they've recalled the track attachment for not having those anti tip stay thingo's... I reckon some knobs probably used it on the saw side of the track on the edge of a board and tipped it.
Your right about the weight single hand work is tiring on the arm, chamfered 360° around 20 decking board ends the other day arm was ready to fall off.
I just saw that Milwaukee Australia got a $15 million fine for price fixing. I know they need to have the statement on their site but are they doing any refunds or reducing prices now?
20:42 voltage doesn't matt...oh, well, the batteries were diff...oh, the hikoki batt was smaller. Look over there, it's a squirrel!
Oh well the 6amp forge (stacked battery) can do better than the 12 ah, even ttc has tested, it can output more wattge than the the 12 A.H
@jaival_rhaine most tests are even. Grinder was best in favour of forge at 20% more power. Doubt it's enough as the Hikoki is more than 20% faster here. If it matches the Hikoki, it'll only be doing it for
Yeah I was like wth, Milwaukee uses 15 40t cells and hikoki 10 of them. And it wasn't even close lol, Milwaukee always advertises its power but I think they are feeling the limitations of 18v system...
@@riba2233 it's going to be hilarious when Milwaukee announces M36
@@toolscientist yeah lol
Have to agree on the placement of the guide rail position, that looks very awkward to use on the Milwaukee, I've used Hitachi corded routers for many years.
Вот это фрезер 😮😮😮 M-18 крутая серия инструментов.
I have had the hikoki a little over a year well it’s actually of the mhpt branded flavor but it’s a phenomenal tool and imo, the 1/2” router one of the tools along with the deep cut bandsaw and theyve had the best gasless nailers for years imo and lightweight circ saws, their 7” cordless miter saw, the cordless compressor, & those are all great so imo those tools kept me from leaving the platform entirely (out of bitterness😂😢) for red as hikoki can be a bad choice for cats who want the newly released tools & here’s why, when it comes to hikoki/metabo hpt the brand structure is somewhat disjointed and you never know if a tool is even going to be released in your country forget about when…idek if mhpt employees know what’s coming down the pipe too much further out that the general public tbh but for instance the barrel grip jigsaw has never even been released in the states, and it looks to be a great tool with very very little information, videos, or reviews to be seen on it, that as well as the 230mm beast of a grinder I’d love to see those vids
Appatently angled base isn't that important and not available separately.
I did confirm that you CAN use the track guide or standard guide with dust extraction at the same time, but a corded 1/2 full size is fine really especially when already tied to a vacuum hose. I wish it cut deeper and longer profiles!
👍👍👍Christmas wishes to yourself and your family. Thank you
Totally agree the orientation of the edge guide feels weird. I'm trying to get used to it but the hikoki / Makita orientation is way more ergonomic
The trim router also has an optional plunge base and doesn't need the adapter.
my tracksaw also doesn't have the anti tip feature here in the EU. apparently, in some markets makita has a patent that doesnt allow milwaukee to ship them everywhere.
Would you mind measuring the spacing of the guide rail bars where they connect to the router and the diameter. It looks similar to my Ridgid plunge router that doesn’t have an adapter for guide rails. Would definitely order that adapter if it fit
Holy shit I got something BEFORE you did!!!! I had to wait for Milwaukee NZ to send it to the seller, it was that new to NZ. Got it for a steal though - $982 INCLUDING GST.
*for the kit that is
I've had this one for 5 weeks.
I like my Makita tools but the M18 trim router has better fine adjustment.
I'm jealous you guys get the red tracks.
So which do you prefer? Hikoki or Milwaukee? ..
I have the hikoki , haven’t used it yet though, but heard good things about it..
got sick of waiting for makita to show there hand ..
apparently the Milwaukee is unsuitable for kitchen worktops in the uk , due to the collets being metric and only a depth of 38mm can be achieved..
not sure 🤔 how true this is …
Hikoki is a shop.and construction site beast
2yrz and two still going strong
No not true at all. I've done way deeper than 40mm with it
@patattack1919 what is way deeper. Can you be more specific pls. For worktop need 55+ mm
hey. 55+MM through solid material is fine, though obviously not in one pass. I have a 60mm flush trim bit for the final cut and it doesn't struggle in the slightest to do my final cut in one pass@@kuki3069
I’m impressed. Exactly what I’ve been saying Makita needs.
Makita…where are you?
I’m right here. Can I interest you in a 40v Easy Bake Oven?
Makita, you should be asleep. Shit look at the time, I should be asleep too.
Well…matter of fact yes you can
MetaboHPT 1/2" is 36v, better in every way. The milwaukee is insanely overpriced.
Dang it, that sucks... I didn't know out of the USA they had red tracks!
Can you use this on granite if you buy the right diamond bits
Where is the base for Guide Bushes??????
With a router on a rail have one hand on guide and one on router. Get much better cut as equal force is applied, less vibrations and all that shit👍
The smaller size stealth mounts square will fit
Yeah I know. As I was editing it I thought "Why didn't I just use the small one" Oh well... next time.
I’ll take my Hikoki any day, that thing smashed hardwood 14mm deep with mitre jointer and it was sooo good surprisingly powerful more than I even expected 😅
That being said if you already have the batteries, say fuck it and buy some Hikoki gear they are killing it with some of their stuff. 23g nailer not so much Milwaukee one that round. 😂 the rainbow tool collection is the one way to go.
Hikoki is crap 💩 😂
Your crap///@@bigboundsy
@@bigboundsysays the guy who didn't own them
Go ahead and keep using overpriced colors that have shit warrantees, no backwards compatibility and no AC power options
The green keeps making our construction and shop.work.lots.of $$$
I love my little M12 23ga, can't wait for the brad nailer.
All my bigger guns are pneumatic, but I'm seriously thinking about the hikoki 15ga DA.
@@bigboundsyYou can't be further from the truth...
Bro... you fully meed some track clamps 🤣
Ikr (trying not to sound too much like a teenage girl)
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL xD
Band Meeting!
Festool tracksaw vs Hikoki, what’s your thoughts since you’re one of the few with the Hikoki tracksaw because they had a warehouse fire apparently and aren’t selling a kit version yet.
I don't like the Hikoki. But I haven't used a Festool for years, so... I actually use the Milwaukee as my go to now.
Prefer it over the xgt because?
That is not comparable. Festool is the absolute king of track saws and dust collection.
@@bigboundsymeh it is not that simple tbh, they are good but I wouldn't say the best
Back In 2003 porter cable had a 1/2 fixed base router. On the ni cad system.
Milwaukee ain’t got no flat edge on the sole?
@mattryan1986oh boy, there was a huge discussion about this a few day ago on ww whisperers short video ...
They have 36v- went away from it a.few yrs ago
any reason why?@@baseballdude8491
Porter cable made one years ago
I know.
It's a pity how porter cable have gone, dewalt ruined them , porter cable should have been the festool of America
And they ruined Black & Decker and are currently running Dewalt into the ground at speed.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL yep, and people still don't get it
Metric sucks.