I believe that the best thing to happen to Argentina was losing the first game against Saudi Arabia. It was a wake up call. I'm so glad that Messi won the world cup. All the negativity he faced, all the nasty talk. Who's laughing now? Vamos Argentina... Vamos Lionel Messi... Vamos
I was telling a Brazilian fan this at like the 3rd group stage game. He claimed Brazil were doing better than Argentina when they barely beat Serbia and were flying from richarlison’s goal. Argentina were shocked early by Saudi after coming in to the tournament on a 36 game unbeaten streak. From that day they had KO stage awareness because every game right from the Mexico game was a chance they would leave the competition. Every game was like a final. Brazil and Spain and France didn’t have this problem and they got knocked out early apart from France cus they were comfortable
Di Maria deserves huge credit too - scored the winner in the Copa final and then won a penalty and scored the second in an impressive cameo where he was clearly not at 100%. Big game player!
When people worldwide come together in support of a player and team with no benefit to them... That's when you know something special is happening. I don't think any of us will forget where we were when this World Cup final happened. This was just pure magic.
a me di messi non interessava e non interessa nulla è un bravo calciatore ma niente di più non è completo il piede destro non è né preciso ne potente dentro l area di rigore e fuori dall'area di rigore con il piede destro non tira quasi mai di testa non parliamo proprio è solo 4 5 quarto o quinto di tutti i tempi Ronaldo Nazario de Lima prima dell infortunio e crujff sono più completi e anche più forti di messi ed in parte anche Alfredo di Stefano Pelé è al di sopra di tutti di tanto
Im English and as far as i am concerned, Messi has carried his team to 3 copa america finals, and 2 world cup finals. He was instrumental in all of them. He has won the world cup and copa america. Maradona did not win the copa america. Messi is greater mainly because of how long he has been on the top. Hes the GOAT, and for me it is not even close. Most assists of all time. Most likely will end with most goals. I could go on forever. He is the greatest.
@@briandoherty245 No need to. He has his opinion. And besides him, there's millions of people who agrees with him. I'm one of them. And Messi didn't even need to win the WC to be the GOAT, he already was. Like Ferdinand said: If Messi was putting up numbers like Maradona or Pelé people would say he's over. That's how good he is.
@@briandoherty245 I did. Both Maradona and Messi were similar in their genius. However, Messi has managed to add ridiculous numbers of goals and assists on a consistent basis for over 15 years straight on top of that.
@@briandoherty245 No, no need to. In that case you would only be authorized to have an opinion ONLY if you have watched every single player, which I guess, none of us did. So, no, no need to.
He has been around for years but under used. He lives in Brazil so his knowledge of South American football is amazing. Finally he is becoming more main stream. Yes total fan boy :)
Argentina were flying in 2014, but Di Maria got injured in the game against Holland and had to miss the final. Ageuro was already injured, so Messi was had to play with a much reduced team in the finals, Higuaín at striker for eg. Messi and di Maria had such a good combination going that I'm sure they would have won had Di Maria been playing. It was karma that they finally got it in 2022, amazingly at the ages of about 35 each.
Unbelievable final. Usually, in the last 3 or so decades, finals are decided by a single goal and have so few chances and are incredibly tense, both teams too afraid to lose. This one was so enthralling, I kept waiting for France to come alive, and after the 80th minute, the match went mental and into turbo mode. Certainly the best World Cup final, probably the best World Cup game since Italy vs Germany 1970 "the game of the century"-perhaps even greater. People talk about the Champions League having better quality, yes, but NOTHING, nothing on Earth can come close to matching a World Cup in terms of drama and excitement. See you in North America in 2026!
Ucl finals are more intense and dramatic than worldcup.although worldcup is the biggest footballing dvent but tbh ucl quality of football is more popular than worldcup.ucl is continental event but quality wise it's more tough and competitive than worldcup.
@@Shafiullah141gulimam It's been a long time since we've seen any exciting ucl final. Considering that it happens every year we should see it more frequently however the last exciting one was liverpool-milan 18 years ago.
The only thing missing in the spectacle was Maradona,he would be the happiest person to see this miracle unravel in front of him.maybe he blessed Argentina from heaven.
With dedication and hard work miracles do exist. Thanks Messi and team members for joy and happiness you gave to so so so so so many people in the different continents. ❤️
a me sinceramente di messi non interessa nulla è un bravo calciatore ma non è completo il piede destro non è né preciso ne potente dentro l area di rigore e fuori dall'area di rigore con il piede destro non tira quasi mai di testa non parliamo proprio Pelé aveva tutto ai massimi livelli tutti perché super completissimo tecnicamente fisicamente mentalmente rispetto a tutti tre mondiali con il Brasile 58 62 70 due mondiali con il santos 62 63 una recopa mondiale nel 68 con il santos contro l Inter a s siro 1283 goals in 1371 partite Pelé n 1 primo incomparabile immenso magico perché di tutti i tempi messi 4 5 quarto o quinto di tutti i tempi
Hard Work Pays Off, Dreams do comes True, Bad Times won't last, only the G.O.A.T do... Congrats Argentina... Vamos Martinez, Panendez and Messi... 🎆🎆🎆🎉🎉🎉
Pelé è il più grande calciatore della storia del calcio perché super completissimo tecnicamente fisicamente mentalmente rispetto a tutti tre mondiali con il Brasile 58 62 70 due mondiali con il santos 62 63 una recopa mondiale nel 68 con il santos 62 contro l Inter a s siro nel 68 1283 goals in 1371 partite messi non è completo il piede destro non è né preciso ne potente dentro l area di rigore con il piede destro fuori dall'area di rigore non tira quasi mai di testa non parliamo proprio Pelé n 1 primo incomparabile immenso magico di tutti i tempi messi n 4 5 quarto o quinto di tutti i tempi
VAMOS MUCHACHOS 🇦🇷 Greatest WC final ever Most amount of goals ever scored Logistically superbly delivered Goat cementing goatage So many upsets so much drama Amazing experience thank you Emir and 🇶🇦
No hay nadie que analice los partidos y el futbol en general, como los periodistas ingleses. Ojalá en mi país, Argentina, tuviéramos esta clase de periodismo, desprovisto de intereses secundarios y tan respetuosos. Mis felicitaciones
@@Dollarg1-j3g really? Without other players like Martinez Argentina or Messi wouldn't go further in this World Cup and without Messi they wouldn't go further either. That's why is now more of a team than before. Thanks to Scaloni.
@@Dollarg1-j3g without emi clutch save, Argentina wouldn't have won. Without Julian pressing and hard working play style, their matches would be so much harder. Messi just did his thing and the rest did theirs. No such thing as one man team right here.
Para ganar una copa del mundo se necesitan muchas cosas, una similitud entre Francia y Argentina es que armaron un plantel competitivo, donde los 26 jugadores representaban una alternativa para armar el equipo y a su vez un cuerpo técnico (coach) que no titubee al momento que se necesita cambiar el equipo. Naturalmente también se necesita suerte.
It was a collective team effort. Don't forget, when it goes to penalty , kudos to the keeper to hold his nerve put up 2 good saves. It's not a Messi only win but a Argentina win for me.
@@pollos1 I'm not crying. I dont support either team in the final. I'm just disappointed because I despise Messi fanboys who are absolutely insufferable and the classless antics of the Argentina players at this tournament just like most tournaments actually. If Messi fanboys didn't exist and Argentina actually played fairly and with class and weren't such sore winners/losers, I'd have no problem with Messi or Argentina winning.
He’s taken some knocks at this World Cup; sacked before the wc starts, watched his Portugal replacement shine and his career-rival collect the biggest prize.
Cristiano Ronaldo will be remembered as one of the two greats alongside messi. Not one of them needed the world cup trophy to prove anything further. The only problem with ronaldo is his ego, not understanding he is already a legendary player. He needs to realize sports life is limited and, in the end, he has to retire. he just needs to retire with respect.
@Hasnain Khan I'm a utd fan but Messi is levels above cr7. Cr7 goals brilliant but Messi has that and the assists and the ability to control the tempo of a game from as an 8 or 6.
IF it was scripted (very unlikely, but let's say hypothetically), congratulations to the story writer because THAT was awesome! Loved the emotional rollercoaster. I just wish there were more open play goals than penalties, but I guess that added to the intensity. Di Maria and Mbappe's 2nd goal were absolutely sublime!
@@Alto53 The script writer should have put more open play goals though, or at least a free kick top bins. Maybe a nude streaker with giant melons at the end of extra time too, that would have been memorable
@@es7683 Maybe Alto thinks it, but my comment was more tongue in cheek. I don't believe anything was scripted, but hypothetically speaking if it was, it was well scripted
100% scripted by Fifa for the publicity of Messi winning in his final world cup game. Sadly the more deserving team lost because of it. Messi and his fanboys are going to be unbearable now, we'll never hear the end of it ffs
Anyone saying that the game wasn’t riveting until Mbappe scored doesn’t appreciate football. Argentina didn’t let France breath but even considering that performance against the previous champions, a 2-0 lead is the most dangerous. It was nail biting throughout
One of the most iconic fairy tales in football unfolded right before our eyes...We were fortunate to witness the moment..This was a perfect sendoff worthy of a king...LIONEL MESSI..RESPECT
You can listen to him on BBC 5 Live's World Football Phone In, every Tuesday. He's been on that show evee since the first episode in the 90s. Has never missed an episode, not even once... That's why he's the Legendinho.
cuando escuchas a estos tipos te das cuenta que, salvo alguna excepcion, no existe el periodismo deportivo en argentina. son hinchas con microfono acomodados en la tv
Talking about the premier league and you don't even mention Julian Alvarez cementing himself as the starting sticker for Argentina and scoring incredible goals
Great Tim Vickery. Very pleasant voice, easy to understand accent, clear and excellent analysis. This man knows what he's talking about.And impartial, serene. Best pundit I've heard so far.
Montiel scored the winning penalty and also concerned the absolute joke of a penalty for France to take it to penalties. Am so happy so montiel and no one will remember him and what he did is character defining
Great interview and will makes me follow and listen to Tim, what an analysis. Columbia SF Copa America is so important. Scaloni did with this Argentina team with Messi similar to what Bilardo did with Maradona. Lets remember Maradona story, Menotti didn’t call Maradona to the 1978 WC, then in 1982, Maradona was the new star, but not the center of the team. Bilardo came and Scaloni came, rest is history. bravo and vamos Argentina
You believe that Maradona's heart would have survived that final? I very much doubt it! I'm really not into religion ( or the concept of a heaven at that), but I agree with Pele, who was sure that Diego saw all from above and was certainly smiling at Messi lifting the cup.
You have to hear from Tim Vickery on anything related to South America. With Argentina and Messi becoming world champions, its only right we hear from the great man.
If Montiel didn’t silly enough using the elbow and led to the penalty kick, the game would have ended better and more special. Not to mention, Messi would also have got the Golden Boot, and everyone on that personal award stage would all be the Argentinians.
Golden Boot had to go to Mbappe. The young man scored more. It was obvious from the get go that FIFA would give Golden Ball to Messi anyway. And he did play really well, well deserved.
@@cj1871 Yeah I guess that's why no one on the French team complained about the penalty, because they don't know as much as a few butthurt Ronaldo fans watching on TV. It was as easy a penalty call as you get in a game. Dembele had no idea how to handle Di Maria which is why he was taken off.
@@nottingham1 More migrants have died in the English Channel trying to get into Britain as refugees Why doesn’t Britain solve its own problems before preaching to Qatar?
@@tomstory8502 How is that Britain's fault? Stop with the agenda. Qatar literally enslaved migrants, forced them to work in terrible conditions with barely any pay and no way to escape and thousands died building stadiums for a world cup they never should have had. . Fifa is as corrupt as they come. Still are actually, you're telling me that Argentina and Messi winning wasn't completely scripted? Lol no.
When a King dies the Prince then becomes the new King. I think one should celebrate their achievements and leave it that way. The Prince learnt from the King and respect the knowledge given.
He was healthy in 2014, he just suffered a leg injury in the game against Holland and had to miss the final. If he and Ageuro had both been fit, Argentina almost certainly wins that Cup.
Few remembered 2010 world cup spain lost to Switzerland And then won the world cup Exactly happened to argentina, even france lost to tunisa before reaching final. Thank you QATAR for this Spectacular world cup and thank you( M'bape, messi and Di maria) PSG stars for this stunning world cup final.
I think it was good for them... not to be carried by their past success...sometimes past success can be destructive to making yet another progress in life..
This was the greatest final ever. If you didn't watch this in realtime 😂😂😂 I feel bad for you... And yes the debate is objectively over. Subjectively it will never be over 😂😂😂 But that's the beauty of it.
Stop trying to rip Messi from us. He was always massively revered in Argentina, the only ones criticizing him after the lost finals were just some stupid journalists and people who honestly always go against the obvious. Messi was, is, and will always be OUR hero forever, the GOAT, the best athlete in history, from the best country in the world!!!
the save at the end of the OT was also scripted? I guess portugal winning without ronaldo in 2016 was also scripted.... how about Greece in 2004 on their olympic year? how about the last minute entry Denmark in 1992?
Well messi has to thank martinez to the high heavens, for those saves... imagine after all he has done it was tied 3-3, and now all your money is on martinez to make saves, that after being torched by Mbappe 3 times and another in penalties.. But it paid off... What a game... it was for the ages...people would be talking about that game a hundred years from now...
Cr7 is an all time great footballer... he is just not a footballing divinity like the one known as Messi. Why does one persons achievement have to be diminished by the greatest who ever kicked a ball? It doesn't. You can appreciate the godly talent of Messi while still celebrating that of mortals.
was never a debate. only ones that put this on the table are Ronaldos fan boys. im mean, he was great, a goal machine. but messi is just another lvl for everyone
Great tactical analysis, the fact that France didn´s shoot at goal for 70 minutes is not a coincidence. You can see after subs and both teams moving pieces around how the dynamic changed.
Scaloni took Di Maria off too early, that was his one mistake. After just 60 minutes, the French took advantage of that move and so it became apparent. It was a risk that he got away with. I felt they could have won it in normal time had he stayed on the pitch for a bit longer.
Just saw the clip of Messi standing at the halfway line with the team, as the winning penalty was about to be taken, he looks up to the heavens and is lip-read to say "Come on Diego give it to him''. Just when I thought this final had everything, i see that. Two footballing Gods! Makes the hair stand up on my arms and I'm not even Argentinian.
3:20 thats why Diego was so unique. With his victories, with his dazzling runs, with his rebellious nature, he showed the fantasy of an underdogs taking on the giants and coming out on top. Thats why that 1986 title is so revered in Argentina. Even though they already won in 1978, the 1986 triunph brought the patriotic nature of the Argentinians in the forefront
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I believe that the best thing to happen to Argentina was losing the first game against Saudi Arabia. It was a wake up call. I'm so glad that Messi won the world cup. All the negativity he faced, all the nasty talk. Who's laughing now? Vamos Argentina... Vamos Lionel Messi... Vamos
I was telling a Brazilian fan this at like the 3rd group stage game. He claimed Brazil were doing better than Argentina when they barely beat Serbia and were flying from richarlison’s goal. Argentina were shocked early by Saudi after coming in to the tournament on a 36 game unbeaten streak. From that day they had KO stage awareness because every game right from the Mexico game was a chance they would leave the competition. Every game was like a final. Brazil and Spain and France didn’t have this problem and they got knocked out early apart from France cus they were comfortable
If you bet Argentina win the world cup after that loss you came out good.
True, it showed them their weaknesses and worked to improve them throughout the tournament, it was spectacular.
Vamos @ikay udo
Similiar to Spain in 2010.. Lose against Switzerland in the first game
Di Maria deserves huge credit too - scored the winner in the Copa final and then won a penalty and scored the second in an impressive cameo where he was clearly not at 100%. Big game player!
Certainly Di Maria deserves big credit, but his problem is inconsistentcy.
@@fahedal-ajmi4015 Doesn’t matter when you’re a big match player. History remembers the winners and performers in a final.
Di Maria is always a big time player in these matches, for some reason man turns the clock 5 years
Certainly Di Maria steps up in the big games. He loves a final the man.
Certainly dives in big games
When people worldwide come together in support of a player and team with no benefit to them... That's when you know something special is happening.
I don't think any of us will forget where we were when this World Cup final happened. This was just pure magic.
They support that player bc he lifts them up. That's the benefit to them. Mental and spiritual.
a me di messi non interessava e non interessa nulla è un bravo calciatore ma niente di più non è completo il piede destro non è né preciso ne potente dentro l area di rigore e fuori dall'area di rigore con il piede destro non tira quasi mai di testa non parliamo proprio è solo 4 5 quarto o quinto di tutti i tempi Ronaldo Nazario de Lima prima dell infortunio e crujff sono più completi e anche più forti di messi ed in parte anche Alfredo di Stefano Pelé è al di sopra di tutti di tanto
@@ninovella3721 seek out help, take your meds, hope you get better soon
Im English and as far as i am concerned, Messi has carried his team to 3 copa america finals, and 2 world cup finals.
He was instrumental in all of them.
He has won the world cup and copa america.
Maradona did not win the copa america.
Messi is greater mainly because of how long he has been on the top.
Hes the GOAT, and for me it is not even close.
Most assists of all time.
Most likely will end with most goals.
I could go on forever. He is the greatest.
Did you see maradona play?
@@briandoherty245 No need to. He has his opinion. And besides him, there's millions of people who agrees with him. I'm one of them. And Messi didn't even need to win the WC to be the GOAT, he already was. Like Ferdinand said: If Messi was putting up numbers like Maradona or Pelé people would say he's over. That's how good he is.
@@briandoherty245 I did. Both Maradona and Messi were similar in their genius. However, Messi has managed to add ridiculous numbers of goals and assists on a consistent basis for over 15 years straight on top of that.
@@f7empest no need to?
@@briandoherty245 No, no need to. In that case you would only be authorized to have an opinion ONLY if you have watched every single player, which I guess, none of us did. So, no, no need to.
What a genuinely amazing pundit. Finally someone with genuine knowledge of the game. What a breath of fresh air
Agreed!
He has been around for years but under used. He lives in Brazil so his knowledge of South American football is amazing. Finally he is becoming more main stream. Yes total fan boy :)
Messi and Di Maria played so well together crazy how they dominated till Di Maria was taken off the field
Agreed.
That's what you call a WORLD CLASS performance from Di Maria.
Officially a WORLD CLASS PLAYER ...if you had any doubts.
Argentina were flying in 2014, but Di Maria got injured in the game against Holland and had to miss the final. Ageuro was already injured, so Messi was had to play with a much reduced team in the finals, Higuaín at striker for eg. Messi and di Maria had such a good combination going that I'm sure they would have won had Di Maria been playing. It was karma that they finally got it in 2022, amazingly at the ages of about 35 each.
They substituted him with a defender. Argentina chose to sitback and defend the rest of the game , simple as that. But they made one costly mistake.
@@daleviker5884 I’ve always believed that they win that final if Di Maria wasn’t injured
Unbelievable final. Usually, in the last 3 or so decades, finals are decided by a single goal and have so few chances and are incredibly tense, both teams too afraid to lose. This one was so enthralling, I kept waiting for France to come alive, and after the 80th minute, the match went mental and into turbo mode. Certainly the best World Cup final, probably the best World Cup game since Italy vs Germany 1970 "the game of the century"-perhaps even greater.
People talk about the Champions League having better quality, yes, but NOTHING, nothing on Earth can come close to matching a World Cup in terms of drama and excitement. See you in North America in 2026!
Ucl finals are more intense and dramatic than worldcup.although worldcup is the biggest footballing dvent but tbh ucl quality of football is more popular than worldcup.ucl is continental event but quality wise it's more tough and competitive than worldcup.
@@Shafiullah141gulimam It's been a long time since we've seen any exciting ucl final. Considering that it happens every year we should see it more frequently however the last exciting one was liverpool-milan 18 years ago.
Your right, miles better than any club games ......
@@Shafiullah141gulimam 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@k13tron chelsea vs byern munich 2012,chelsea vs Manchester united 2008 was also good and exiting ones.
The only thing missing in the spectacle was Maradona,he would be the happiest person to see this miracle unravel in front of him.maybe he blessed Argentina from heaven.
Definitely
Messi loves this group , i think he should continue in both format . Retire together coz he can control the game so beautifully by going a bit deeper.
As long as you have 10 hardworking players Messi can play next Copa America. Messi can still provide the maguc in key moments
With dedication and hard work miracles do exist. Thanks Messi and team members for joy and happiness you gave to so so so so so many people in the different continents. ❤️
It was not a miracle. Argentina afterall also a South American champions and also lost in 1 game in last 42 matches
a me sinceramente di messi non interessa nulla è un bravo calciatore ma non è completo il piede destro non è né preciso ne potente dentro l area di rigore e fuori dall'area di rigore con il piede destro non tira quasi mai di testa non parliamo proprio Pelé aveva tutto ai massimi livelli tutti perché super completissimo tecnicamente fisicamente mentalmente rispetto a tutti tre mondiali con il Brasile 58 62 70 due mondiali con il santos 62 63 una recopa mondiale nel 68 con il santos contro l Inter a s siro 1283 goals in 1371 partite Pelé n 1 primo incomparabile immenso magico perché di tutti i tempi messi 4 5 quarto o quinto di tutti i tempi
The Argentina 's golkeeper's performance was outstanding as much as Messi.
La prestazione del portiere argentino è stata più determinante rispetto a quella di di Maria messi e i compagni
@@ninovella3721in the penalties theres always only one winner: one of the two goalkeepers.
Hard Work Pays Off, Dreams do comes True, Bad Times won't last, only the G.O.A.T do...
Congrats Argentina...
Vamos Martinez, Panendez and Messi...
🎆🎆🎆🎉🎉🎉
Gracias @ede for this. Congratulations from a Bangladeshi heart in England
Isn't that razor Ramon Chico
Pelé è il più grande calciatore della storia del calcio perché super completissimo tecnicamente fisicamente mentalmente rispetto a tutti tre mondiali con il Brasile 58 62 70 due mondiali con il santos 62 63 una recopa mondiale nel 68 con il santos 62 contro l Inter a s siro nel 68 1283 goals in 1371 partite messi non è completo il piede destro non è né preciso ne potente dentro l area di rigore con il piede destro fuori dall'area di rigore non tira quasi mai di testa non parliamo proprio Pelé n 1 primo incomparabile immenso magico di tutti i tempi messi n 4 5 quarto o quinto di tutti i tempi
Tim vickery is great, gives so much details and history. I enjoy listening to him in the "world football phone in" podcast.
VAMOS MUCHACHOS 🇦🇷
Greatest WC final ever
Most amount of goals ever scored
Logistically superbly delivered
Goat cementing goatage
So many upsets so much drama
Amazing experience thank you Emir and 🇶🇦
Don't think I've heard anyone articulating the whole thing so wonderfully as Tim Vickery has here.
I agree.
No hay nadie que analice los partidos y el futbol en general, como los periodistas ingleses. Ojalá en mi país, Argentina, tuviéramos esta clase de periodismo, desprovisto de intereses secundarios y tan respetuosos. Mis felicitaciones
But you have libermartin type jounralist?
@@kylianmbapppe8245 jajajajajajjajajajajajjajaj
totalmente de acuerdo
I like this analyst he knows that to win a world cup,you need a team not stars!
Well put
Argentina 🇦🇷 are a one man team what you on about 😂
@@Dollarg1-j3g really? Without other players like Martinez Argentina or Messi wouldn't go further in this World Cup and without Messi they wouldn't go further either. That's why is now more of a team than before. Thanks to Scaloni.
@@Dollarg1-j3g without emi clutch save, Argentina wouldn't have won. Without Julian pressing and hard working play style, their matches would be so much harder. Messi just did his thing and the rest did theirs. No such thing as one man team right here.
Para ganar una copa del mundo se necesitan muchas cosas, una similitud entre Francia y Argentina es que armaron un plantel competitivo, donde los 26 jugadores representaban una alternativa para armar el equipo y a su vez un cuerpo técnico (coach) que no titubee al momento que se necesita cambiar el equipo. Naturalmente también se necesita suerte.
What a game and what a way reward Messi, kudos to Argentina
It was a collective team effort. Don't forget, when it goes to penalty , kudos to the keeper to hold his nerve put up 2 good saves. It's not a Messi only win but a Argentina win for me.
It wasn't a team effort. The referee's and Messi's penalties is the greatest love story ever.
They are both the Argentina MVPs
@@IlikeTrainsguy100cry bro
Everyone is giving Martinez, Di Maria and other players credit. Didn't you watch the video? Idk who said it's a only Messi win lol
@@pollos1 I'm not crying. I dont support either team in the final.
I'm just disappointed because I despise Messi fanboys who are absolutely insufferable and the classless antics of the Argentina players at this tournament just like most tournaments actually.
If Messi fanboys didn't exist and Argentina actually played fairly and with class and weren't such sore winners/losers, I'd have no problem with Messi or Argentina winning.
@@IlikeTrainsguy100 all penalties were deserved except for poland one where messi missed u just hate on argentina for no reason
Hope Ronaldo is coping OK and not too distressed witnessing Messi being crowned the GOAT alongside Maradoa !
He’s taken some knocks at this World Cup; sacked before the wc starts, watched his Portugal replacement shine and his career-rival collect the biggest prize.
@@finfog4590 such is life hopefully he will reflect and work on his ego
Cristiano Ronaldo will be remembered as one of the two greats alongside messi. Not one of them needed the world cup trophy to prove anything further. The only problem with ronaldo is his ego, not understanding he is already a legendary player. He needs to realize sports life is limited and, in the end, he has to retire. he just needs to retire with respect.
@Hasnain Khan I'm a utd fan but Messi is levels above cr7. Cr7 goals brilliant but Messi has that and the assists and the ability to control the tempo of a game from as an 8 or 6.
dude should have atleast congratulate his pal to restore his pride
Messi has completed football
A lovely phrase. Well said.
.. But has he done it against Stoke City on a cold, wet Tuesday night?
@@rammingspeed5217 🤣🤣
IF it was scripted (very unlikely, but let's say hypothetically), congratulations to the story writer because THAT was awesome! Loved the emotional rollercoaster. I just wish there were more open play goals than penalties, but I guess that added to the intensity. Di Maria and Mbappe's 2nd goal were absolutely sublime!
It is scripted.
scripted ? say it without crying . hater
@@Alto53 The script writer should have put more open play goals though, or at least a free kick top bins. Maybe a nude streaker with giant melons at the end of extra time too, that would have been memorable
@@es7683 Maybe Alto thinks it, but my comment was more tongue in cheek. I don't believe anything was scripted, but hypothetically speaking if it was, it was well scripted
100% scripted by Fifa for the publicity of Messi winning in his final world cup game. Sadly the more deserving team lost because of it.
Messi and his fanboys are going to be unbearable now, we'll never hear the end of it ffs
Anyone saying that the game wasn’t riveting until Mbappe scored doesn’t appreciate football. Argentina didn’t let France breath but even considering that performance against the previous champions, a 2-0 lead is the most dangerous. It was nail biting throughout
One of the most iconic fairy tales in football unfolded right before our eyes...We were fortunate to witness the moment..This was a perfect sendoff worthy of a king...LIONEL MESSI..RESPECT
The craziest and best football match I've ever witnessed
“ Argentina turned Griezman into a problem “ what an analysis 👏🏾👏🏾
More of Tim Vickery please!
Yeah, he’s decent.
He's great on the World Football Phone in on BBC / Podcast
Pound for pound the best football journalist out there for me. Superb speaker and thinker and a really decent guy to boot.
You can listen to him on BBC 5 Live's World Football Phone In, every Tuesday. He's been on that show evee since the first episode in the 90s. Has never missed an episode, not even once... That's why he's the Legendinho.
He's a class act a far cry from the sensationalist buffons at ESPN FC
I wish we had this kind of journalists back in Argentina, thanks!
cuando escuchas a estos tipos te das cuenta que, salvo alguna excepcion, no existe el periodismo deportivo en argentina. son hinchas con microfono acomodados en la tv
@@FranciscoCortez-od2dn mejor dicho imposible bro
Tim has lived in Brazil since 1994 and is the South American football comentator for the BBC. Brits know football!.
Could listen to this great man all day. Regards Messi, he has done it all and confirmed his status alongside Pele and Maradona.
Maradona to messi after 2016 retirement - don't you worry child, heaven's got a plan for you!!
Tim is peerless. Respect 💯
Tim is the man. Much appreciated breakdown. More of him. Thank you
Excellent analysis and commentary really. 👏
this is one of the few journalists who actually knows what he's talking about. well done
Talking about the premier league and you don't even mention Julian Alvarez cementing himself as the starting sticker for Argentina and scoring incredible goals
Great Tim Vickery. Very pleasant voice, easy to understand accent, clear and excellent analysis. This man knows what he's talking about.And impartial, serene. Best pundit I've heard so far.
Montiel scored the winning penalty and also concerned the absolute joke of a penalty for France to take it to penalties. Am so happy so montiel and no one will remember him and what he did is character defining
Cheers to the Legendinho from Canada. The best football pundit on the planet.
"If Messi wins it, it's gonna be 50/50 like choosing between your mum and dad" , that's funny.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The Best World Cup Final Won, By The Greatest Player Of All Time
i don't see cristiano ronaldo anywhere
@@shutup2751 he is crying in his car
@@emptysoulbeyond3193 he has more cars than you have iq thats for sure
@@renteb same goes to u
@@emptysoulbeyond3193 you're repeating a meme said by a 12 yo girl, not me 😆
He is at 98 goals, reaching 100 goals for Argentina will be a milestone
Great interview and will makes me follow and listen to Tim, what an analysis. Columbia SF Copa America is so important. Scaloni did with this Argentina team with Messi similar to what Bilardo did with Maradona. Lets remember Maradona story, Menotti didn’t call Maradona to the 1978 WC, then in 1982, Maradona was the new star, but not the center of the team. Bilardo came and Scaloni came, rest is history. bravo and vamos Argentina
Thank you for the tactical analysis . Many shows avoid going into the details
Only one way to improve that game; Maradona, still alive, giving the cup to Messi. Priceless!!!!!!!
You believe that Maradona's heart would have survived that final? I very much doubt it! I'm really not into religion ( or the concept of a heaven at that), but I agree with Pele, who was sure that Diego saw all from above and was certainly smiling at Messi lifting the cup.
You have to hear from Tim Vickery on anything related to South America. With Argentina and Messi becoming world champions, its only right we hear from the great man.
If Montiel didn’t silly enough using the elbow and led to the penalty kick, the game would have ended better and more special. Not to mention, Messi would also have got the Golden Boot, and everyone on that personal award stage would all be the Argentinians.
But Argentina got a penalty they shouldn’t have got, that was a definite simulation from Di Maria so it kind of evened out.
@@cj1871what? France got a penalty later on they had 2 pens it doesn't even out
@@cj1871 the second penalty shouldn't have been given for France as a Frenchman handled the ball before mbappe took his shot..... watch the replay!
Golden Boot had to go to Mbappe. The young man scored more. It was obvious from the get go that FIFA would give Golden Ball to Messi anyway. And he did play really well, well deserved.
@@cj1871 Yeah I guess that's why no one on the French team complained about the penalty, because they don't know as much as a few butthurt Ronaldo fans watching on TV. It was as easy a penalty call as you get in a game. Dembele had no idea how to handle Di Maria which is why he was taken off.
BEST WORLD CUP EVER!!!
no way..
This saddest WC ever. Fifa Maffia
@@nottingham1
More migrants have died in the English Channel trying to get into Britain as refugees
Why doesn’t Britain solve its own problems before preaching to Qatar?
@@tomstory8502 How is that Britain's fault? Stop with the agenda.
Qatar literally enslaved migrants, forced them to work in terrible conditions with barely any pay and no way to escape and thousands died building stadiums for a world cup they never should have had.
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Fifa is as corrupt as they come. Still are actually, you're telling me that Argentina and Messi winning wasn't completely scripted? Lol no.
At least a lot of awareness has been brought to the off field issues. Let’s hope these countries are forced to change their ways.
Their goalkeeper and Messi and Fernández were stand outs!
Don't forget Di Maria! He's been always clutch in big games
@@commuterc8191 And McAllister!
Goes to show, it's a team game!
Messi is already clear 7 ballon dr . 4 ucl , 10 la liga, now 1 World Cup, do I need to say more..
It's probably going to be 8 ballon D'ors after that World Cup win.
@@sebfox2194if he wins ucl then maybe
@@pollos1 No maybe. Who could be better?
@@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 i was wrong when i commented that
When a King dies the Prince then becomes the new King. I think one should celebrate their achievements and leave it that way. The Prince learnt from the King and respect the knowledge given.
I love Tim Vickery's insight. Some at Sky Sports could learn a thing or two about someone who researches and immerses himself in football.
I was so happy to see Di Maria win a World Cup too. He deserves much of the glory. What could have been in 2014 if he was healthy.
He was healthy in 2014, he just suffered a leg injury in the game against Holland and had to miss the final. If he and Ageuro had both been fit, Argentina almost certainly wins that Cup.
Few remembered 2010 world cup spain lost to Switzerland
And then won the world cup
Exactly happened to argentina, even france lost to tunisa before reaching final.
Thank you QATAR for this Spectacular world cup
and thank you( M'bape, messi and Di maria) PSG stars for this stunning world cup final.
Losing the first game made the Argentines forget that unbeaten run and focus on getting the cup
I think it was good for them... not to be carried by their past success...sometimes past success can be destructive to making yet another progress in life..
This was the greatest final ever. If you didn't watch this in realtime 😂😂😂 I feel bad for you... And yes the debate is objectively over. Subjectively it will never be over 😂😂😂 But that's the beauty of it.
Stop trying to rip Messi from us. He was always massively revered in Argentina, the only ones criticizing him after the lost finals were just some stupid journalists and people who honestly always go against the obvious. Messi was, is, and will always be OUR hero forever, the GOAT, the best athlete in history, from the best country in the world!!!
I love the way Tim talked. I could listen to him for hours.
the roller coaster of emotions in that game. incredible.
Eloquent, incisive, logical narration. Thank you.
Tim: “ You couldn’t have scripted it”
Fifa: “ We’re in the clear!”
🤣
the save at the end of the OT was also scripted? I guess portugal winning without ronaldo in 2016 was also scripted.... how about Greece in 2004 on their olympic year? how about the last minute entry Denmark in 1992?
Clear as your tears !!!!
Well messi has to thank martinez to the high heavens, for those saves... imagine after all he has done it was tied 3-3, and now all your money is on martinez to make saves, that after being torched by Mbappe 3 times and another in penalties.. But it paid off... What a game... it was for the ages...people would be talking about that game a hundred years from now...
The men and team that made Messi dream come true
Very knowledgeable pundits indeed.
Brilliant analysis, loved listening to this. Messi cemented his place as GOAT. Thank God the French lost!
Me watching this after he just scored his debut goal for inter miami ❤
Yesterday the 🐐 debate was settled, who is cr7????
the guy with a jet and plays football ,unfortunately not a GOAT
Cr7 is an all time great footballer... he is just not a footballing divinity like the one known as Messi.
Why does one persons achievement have to be diminished by the greatest who ever kicked a ball? It doesn't. You can appreciate the godly talent of Messi while still celebrating that of mortals.
was never a debate. only ones that put this on the table are Ronaldos fan boys. im mean, he was great, a goal machine. but messi is just another lvl for everyone
Well well well said. Man he's good. First time I'm listening to him.
the whole of Italy celebrates the defeat of the Gauls beyond the Alps..and the defeat of Macron,............
as does Ireland
You speak for all Italians?
France is number 1 😊
And the North Macedonians still stand triumphant over the Italians...😁
That's some bad blood😅😅
Tim Vickery analysis was superb. I felt exactly the same what he have said in this video. Sharp eye.
Vamos Argentina 🔥🔥 vamos Leo Messi 🥳
I'm Argentinean and I can say that this commentator Tim Wickery knows Argentinean football in depth
It is true that he used to be heavily attacked by the media, but I'd say 80% of argentines always had his back, especially young people.
The debate was great while it lasted now nobody can honestly say anything other than messi is the GOAT
What a great analysis!
Thankyou argentina and messi for great joy and happiness, i think everyone outside of france wanted messi to win the world cup💙🤍
my condolences
Messi : swears and yell at players
Argentines : He is one of us 😭😭
Oops. Did you lose? lol Cry when nobody is watching HAHAHAHA CHAMPIONS OF THE WORLD! Messi goat.
Abraço do Brasil Tim !!!!
Lovely comments. By folks who know what they are talking about. Cheers from Argentina.
Very good analysis. 💯💯💯
Great tactical analysis, the fact that France didn´s shoot at goal for 70 minutes is not a coincidence. You can see after subs and both teams moving pieces around how the dynamic changed.
Lionel Messi The Greatest Player Of All,Time
of all time ? how old are you ? 10 ? ha ha...........football did not begun 10 years ago.....LOL
It is written in the stars. Congratulations Messi ⚽ Congratulations Argentina 🎉
Tim Vickery is the best football journalist!
With this group growing up Messi should play the next WC ....
He analysis very well
Scaloni took Di Maria off too early, that was his one mistake. After just 60 minutes, the French took advantage of that move and so it became apparent. It was a risk that he got away with. I felt they could have won it in normal time had he stayed on the pitch for a bit longer.
If Argentina won just like that , it won't be the best world cup final ever.
Just saw the clip of Messi standing at the halfway line with the team, as the winning penalty was about to be taken, he looks up to the heavens and is lip-read to say "Come on Diego give it to him''. Just when I thought this final had everything, i see that.
Two footballing Gods!
Makes the hair stand up on my arms and I'm not even Argentinian.
It's not about your mom our your dad..it's about two diferents individuals. Gretings from Argentina Buenos Aires Capital Federal.
“ I DON’T RESPECT A G.O.A.T WITHOUT A WORLD CUP TROPHY “ - Kweku Jobs✅
• It’s My Quote to Whom it May Bother😂😂
- MESSI❤️✨
3:20 thats why Diego was so unique. With his victories, with his dazzling runs, with his rebellious nature, he showed the fantasy of an underdogs taking on the giants and coming out on top. Thats why that 1986 title is so revered in Argentina. Even though they already won in 1978, the 1986 triunph brought the patriotic nature of the Argentinians in the forefront
Tim is an excellent journalist
Argentina old players never played around Messi...this 2022 group gave it all for Messi
Thank you Qatar for giving us the best World Cup ever!
very good analysis
Vickery is so articulate. He's so good.
This reporter was very good, clear on the facts
Copa America and a World Cup in the space of a year for the "choker" Leo Messi.
@Tim Vickery 👏👏
Dale campeón, dale campeón, dale campeón