Regardless of my commute whether it be 30 minutes or an hour, I still manage to get my 10 mile biking every other day and I love commuting by myself before the fact to all my great Tunes. A very happy to commute by myself hand crank up my radio. In the end it all really boils down to the attitude that you have and perceive in life. Your only down if you allow yourself to get down. I can just having some better Tunes to your commute. Hope it takes me an extra 30 minutes just give me another 30 minutes to jam out.
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@@ligametis if businesses spread out demand could fall and so would prices. I don't understand why so many places have so many businesses on top of each other like silicon valley.
That was the only merit of this pandemic. Not having to spend 3 hours of all weekdays on public transports has been a blessing. I really would appreciate if companies overall switched to this model. Like 1/2 days working from the office and 3/4 days working from home 🙏 You can't beat the satisfaction of ending a workday and hitting the streets 10 minutes later to go for a run. Or even when you're loaded with work, at least you can push your workday a little more without having to then face a 1.5/2h commute back home on top of that
I love my alone time when commuting tbh. I either read or listen to music. That's why I appreciate train drivers and bus drivers so much. Imagine doing that for hours non stop knowing that you have so many lives in your hands. Lets give them some appreciation guys.
issa osama I hope they get replaced by robots someday, not that I want them to get unemployed, its because its seems like a lonely, boring and stressful job. Can't imagine driving 12h per day.
Lucas Kikkawa I don't think robots are capable of making decisions to save lives. I don't think robots should replace humans in important jobs like that. Just me and my opinion tho.
@The Dead Immortal: Cool, where can I catch the next self-driving bus then? Oh, there are none? Self-driving cars don't even get a license yet? "We're already there"
I am very confused on why this is bad cuz where I am from, I usually wake up at 5 am and go to school at 6, school starts at 7 30. I just usually sleep at 9 pm to satisfy that 8 hour recommended sleep hours
"Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a car that you are still paying for - in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes and the car, and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it." -Ellen Goodman
Unfornutely, This is the case people all around the world who live big cities. I live in Chennai, India and this is the case here too plus it is hard to rent an apartment for yourself if you are a single woman.
@@MultiAjitha India has a similar problem. Workplaces are too far from (affordable) housing when they don't have to be. That's what Cas means by designing for and incentivizing.
@@MultiAjitha There's no stigma attached to living in joint families in India, right..? Then why not get some relatives to live with you and share the combined income you guys make?
This video seems to be lacking an analysis of the economics of commuting - of how living near where you work is often prohibitively expensive and how long commutes are often a result of under-paid employees. There's a whole economic class dimension to the use of public transit (especially in more rural areas!) that is entirely missed here. Commuting isn't always as much of a "choice" as some might have you believe.
Actually people is rural areas commute much much less than people in cities... I live in a small rural area, my workplace is 30 miles away, it takes me about 15 minutes to get there
Has more to do with zoning laws in the US, I think. Because the suburbs of cities in the US are all just endless urban sprawl, it takes ages to get from there to the city centre. Europe's medium-density residential areas have this problem to a far lesser extent.
@@rjfaber1991 Oh you gotta travel to bigger European cities, they all suffer from empty houses and sky-high prices. Do you want to live in the city? No, no, no, stay in the small town besides it and drive over two hours to your workplace.
@@hblaub Oh, I have. It's certainly true that prices do go up dramatically, but unless they are so high that you actually have to live in a town outside the city (which is certainly true for some, so you have a point), it isn't nearly as bad as in the US. I personally actually work in a town that's only about 20% the size of the city I live in, so I have it the other way around, but of course there's more people who commute from towns to cities than from cities to towns.
This is exactly why people accept offers for a lower paying job than their current one that is closer to their home. It's for the sake of mental health
Exactly, I took a job that was 15% less than a competing offer that was a literal mile away from home opposed to a 25 min drive each way. Not including gas, maintenance, and increased depreciation on the car, just the time alone was worth the 15% cut.
I just did this. I said no to a job that paid more plus tips. But now i can walk to work in 10 min. It's just so much better. I used to travel 2 hours there and back it was miserable. Even an hour there and back is bad
Why do I commute 1 hour 20 mins? ‘Cause I can’t afford to live in SF and that’s the only place with decent paying jobs where I am 😂 I love how they make it sound like it’s a lifestyle choice. I’m pretty sure nobody would CHOOSE to commute if they didn’t have to.
And a lot of it is because of shitty urban planning with American cities. They were planned around the car because when the car was new and fresh there wasn't enough traffic to be pulling your brains out. Only middle class and upper class working men had cars to commute. Add on a lower population overall and there were way less cars on the road so it didn't seem to horrible to design cities around cars. In say German cities you can find affordable-ish housing within the same urban zone and never need a car. Public transport to work, you walk to the grocery store because everything is a cornerstore just down the block, not a Walmart every five miles, and you take the train if you have to go to a different city. A much better commute and much more efficient use of urban space than megahighways and endless rows of suburban housing.
I just made the move from the Bay Area to the Big Island of Hawaii where its actually a little cheaper to live. Tropical paradise vs. Urban Hellscape and you pay less for property? The commute from the south bay into Mountain View was eroding my soul. Being in car jail for 3-4 hours 5 days a week is maddening.
I'm so glad we have such effortless public transit in the Netherlands. You can pretty much bike anywhere, and catch a train on most stations every 15 minutes 🙏 Eventhough there's a certain frustration to our public transit provides, I can't imagine what it's like in the US. Props to you for making that effort!
Well distances in Holland are tiny compared to the US. Long Island itself is 200km long. The New York City area however is a magnet for business and probably too centralised for it's own good.
@@tasmapittock5680 "Theoretical distances" are not relevant. You can work in Midtown Manhattan and live in Williamsburg and still commute quicker than a person from Amsterdam. And a person from Long Island can very well work within biking distance from their home.
I took an 8% salary cut for a job that's MUCH closer and much more full-filling. I cannot recommend it enough! Yes, I have to be mindful with spending (I tutor 2 hours a week for extra cash), but I'm much happier! 😊
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EcoDimension and some other companies outsource whole departments overseas but can fathom the possibiliy of data entry clerks and analysts doing the same jobs locally from home.
This seemed to take an odd turn. She talked about how commutes are ruining our mental health and then that guy said "it's not dead space " and now it makes it okay? That doesn't take away all the detractors but trying to put it in a different light
I took it as finding the silver lining and trying to make your mental health issues worse but giving you bit of control. I found it ironic that most of the suggestions don't work for drivers- reading a book, doing your work, etc.
i hate commuting so much. it takes nearly two hours to commute from my house to college only to arrive in classes where the prof just reads the textbook or powerpoint slides. if i miss one of the buses add 20+ more minutes to the commute. i can't even read on the bus because it makes me feel dizzy and most of the times i cannot even find a place to sit cause the buses are PACKED. most days i just look out the window listening to sad songs contemplating whether to end it all.
This is so relatable... It's eating my time and my mood. Every day by the time I finally get off the subway and start the day I'm already emotionally drained.
Oh I feel your pain! My commute to Uni this past year and a half has made me so depressed and unhealthy I travel 6 hours a day to and from Uni. With the Uni day lasting from 8:30am to 7:30pm. I am at the point where I can NOT find the motivation anymore! I'm always questioning if I'm even capable of finishing this course. I genuinely feel like I am killing myself with it all
doritos i know this is a very old comment but my college was 1.30-2 hours away and there isn’t even a schedule for mini-buses to know if it’s even coming anytime soon. Then I started to teach there so now my work is 2 hours away. It is a lot of stress but I am able to read and prepare for my lectures etc. however, if you can’t read on the bus, then download podcasts. The best way to learn while commuting for sure! I have learned about so many different topics. You can look up most highly rated podcasts and give it a try. It will make your commute so much better.
If only that were the option - I live in a subsidized suburban studio a 50 minute commute from my city-center office. I can't afford to live any closer without roommates, and even then I can only afford my current place because of the subsidized rent. And every mile further from the metro is a higher price to get to and from work every day. And I make a "normal" salary for someone my age and have a part-time job on the weekends.
0:50 The problem is literally right behind her. Instead of a parking lot next to a train station, the town should be around the train station. You should be able to walk to it or ride a bike to it. Sprawl is a huge problem. America's urban land usage is horrible. Here in Washington DC, MD and VA, the region is beginning to figure this out. Mixed use around these stations is SMART GROWTH. Single 2 story homes where you drive everywhere or drive to train stations is a waste of land, a waste of ones time, and overall just stupid. Make our communities more walkable will make all of us healthier.
may vr we have a train called BART in my city. I’m 4 miles away. We have a dozen county buses, including our own city funded buses that go to the train station. Does anyone use em? Partially... everyone drives!
@@m3rl1on DMV is doing this (DC, Maryland, Virginia) Check out Rockville Pike in Maryland...... It starts with rezoing. And once local developers in your area realizes this is very profitable for them, then it can be done. Like I said, its happening here.
It depends on your commute and how you see it. Personally I love metro I love commuting on it and I even specifically find activities that force me to take it.
A boring job that you don't care about does not give you meaning. And other societies have figured out ways to work much less, be much happier, and still have a functioning society... It's America man and this work ethic we preach to poor people so rich people can live lives of leisure. And as a result, most Americans have little spending money which is why we all seem to turn a blind eye towards the sweatshops producing our electronics, clothes, and tools. Consumer culture is awful.
its not that she doesnt wanna move its that she actually financially cannot. living anywhere in nyc is incredibly expensive so she's forced to commute.
Did you see how big her house and yard were? And as far as I'm aware she lives alone. She could get a house that's a little bit smaller and cut like 20 minutes off her commute, one way.
Rachel Arnold I’m in a suburb of Newark and I gotta say NJT has been a lot more efficient than other services recently. With the express trains it takes as little as 15 minutes to get from the station in town to penn station. A local train takes 40 minutes. The downside is though you are paying for that convenience in property taxes.
@@alikazerani Yeah lol most of the work is done by individual reporters and some camera people. The writing staff need to be together obviously but the reporters do not need to go to work every day.
Did anyone else feel like there was no conclusion to this video...? It felt like an abrupt ending that didn’t convey a strong closing point. There is definitely missing something.
I wonder if working from home should be an option? 2.5 hour commute one way equals 5 in total. That’s close to an entire work day and seems really freaking sad!
Working from home is often countered with "that's just not possible for this job". If you are a contractor building houses or a cashier at a store, fair enough. But in many cases, you can consolidate office-activities to one or more days, and provide the tools to employers to do the rest from home. Even a teacher spends 20-40% of their time not in front of a class, developing new lessons and correcting tests... I think most people would be much healthier if they could split the week and spend for example the Wednesday away from the office.
I don't care how close you are to the job, if you have to leave your house to go to it, you should be paid for the hour before and the hour after. If you live far enough to make it more than an hour commute to and from, than you deserve 4 hours of additional pay per day you work. This is especially true for all jobs that were able to be done from home, because there's no longer any reason to demand your employees to come into work if they can do all that work from home.
Another take on this: Affordable Housing. While I assume the vlogger in this video loves her job, she is likely not being paid well enough to live in Manhattan (I assume she works in Manhattan b/c she stated that she arrives to Penn Station). But living in Manhattan is extremely expensive, especially if you want space. There might be an argument for a simpler lifestyle, one without all the comforts of suburban living, but we aren't there as a society yet. But when I worked in DC, it still took me ~20-30 minutes to get 2 miles to my job in the Navy Yard neighborhood on the Metro with the transfer. We need our local governments to ensure that new housing developments have a healthy mix of affordable and market rate housing so we can all live healthy lives regardless of socioeconomic status.
Affordable housing, better walkability, more functional public transport infrastructure and less support for cars are all in the public interest. Affordable housing with designs that encourage community will also mean that the commute could be more social and thus more enjoyable and less taxing and could be used to offset the sacrifice of suburban comforts and to create a sense of place. Shared indoor spaces to offset the loss of housing space, shared green spaces to offset the loss of the ‘yard’.
Most media companies don't pay well. It's the Catch 22 of young media people. Either take a decent paying job in TV media in say, Elko, Nevada but never really able to create a national profile and limit your options OR take a shitty paying job in NYC, LA, or DC ("shitty pay" in NYC is probably upper class living in Elko, NV) but have a better chance of creating your national profile that will lead to the big bucks. It depends.
CardsNHorns04 I remember the days when you could be working class and live in Manhattan. Now you have to be upper middle class in order to afford the rent.
This video feels like a retread of the articles cited at the beginning of this piece. And, it doesn't actually fit the title. Interesting video, but it doesn't feel like there was enough content in there. Especially about why people commute in the first place - rising rent prices in dense areas, the need to be out of a large city, and the other multitude of reasons I'm sure you can come up with. And it doesn't discuss how these commutes are, in fact, harmful to your health. In fact, it seems to veer pro-commute at the end of the video with that interview.
Yeah the video doesn't really have a clear takeaway. I'd probably add a "what you can do!" which would be to push for much bigger housing developments near public transportation.
Commute two hours each way from New Jersey to Queens since I moved in with my parents. I was able to pay off about $17,000 worth of student debt after only 7 months, but it’s definitely left me depressed. There’s no room for a life, and when I do get home, I’m in the middle of the suburbs. Soon I’ll be paying $1,700 per month to live in midtown Manhattan, but I honestly think it’s a better choice for my well being.
Long commuting not only makes you sick, but create ghost town during the day. This american dream of buying the biggest house 1 hour away from your work slowly eating our lives.
Liberals don't just live in cities, they never advocated for free puppies and 6 month long breaks....Here it's a small town and the conservatives fight against abortion even if they aren't suited to take up a kid for adoption, they get fat, live on their employment insurance and child insurance, marry their cousin because the government is going to take care of ...it.....when they are senile.... and I'm the trow away morals/money liberal? You're the kinda person that makes me want to be a eugenist.
Most AA don't even know what liberalism nor conservatism means. They just follow and believe what their elected liberal politicians, Hollywood, ESPN and MSM say. For them, liberals are portrayed as heroes and conservatives are the evil racists.
@@andrelopes8688 i agree. I use to be like 'ill listen to podcasts'. But a few months in there have been times when i just wanted to get home after a long day but no, i have to sit in 2 hr traffic on an buss made for short people
That's just looking at mental health; the commute can make you physically sick too. In my country - even before Covid became a thing - we had this ongoing issue with people travelling on buses to go to work even while sick. They would cough and sneeze throughout the trip, thus sharing their germs and viruses with everybody else, especially when the windows were kept closed. Avoiding those situations is one of the things that's made me truly grateful about working from home.
dfsadsdas dasda books are overrated anyway. you can easily get a summary on youtube and spending time practicing it instead of letting the author fill your brain with his stupid life stories
@@AlexeiMotoRin Not really, reading or listening to podcasts in a busy train or bus is very different than at your sofa at home, I have tried it endless times and can assure you it is very different
that is why rich people are getting healthier, cause they live in downtown manhattan, and bike to work meanwhile they can save time and turn it into productivity and rest. welcome to 21 century capitalism.
You can cycle a small amount and still make a difference. Instead of that 5 minute drive to the train station, she could do a 10 minute bike ride, weather permitting. It being winter, though, I can forgive that - for all we know, that's exactly what she does in the summer.
Sina move to Manhattan where it costs $2800 a month for a 1 bedroom apartment the size of an elementary school classroom? Some people aren't blessed with funds to do that. You got a lot to learn about the world
it's impressive how when they begin to scratch the surface of the subject, they just end the video... (I'm saying this after watching some other videos of them)
Nah, I think they reached some solid conclusions. Commuting is good because you can spend that time "alone", reading, or listening to podcasts, which there's apparently no way you could ever manage at home. And commuting, because it's so awful, makes you more grateful to get home. Incredible, grand insights.
I commuted to the city by public transport for about 4 years. My commute consisted of 2 busses and 2 trains for a total of 2.5hrs - 3hrs each way. Yep that's not an over exaggeration 5 - 6 hours per day commuting. This commute literally drove me into a huge dark rut of depression. I found driving made me much happier but unfortunately driving to the city is not usually an option so I used to drive as far as I could and then park at a station and get the train the rest of the way. A tip for anyone commuting far that hate public transport, get a motorcycle. You'll look forward to going to and from work every day for that ride and you can park in the city. Also you can lane split and beat traffic so it's literally the quickest option.
When I was in college my commute was an hour and a half from home to school, then another hour from school to work and another hour from work, home. You can imagine I didn't have as much time for homework as most of my classmates who lived close to campus and didn't have jobs, but I used my commutes for studying/reading/listening to assigned podcasts or even taking power naps between school and work to get through the day. When I had to stay up really late I wouldn't worry to much about it because I knew I could get an hour of sleep on the way to school... unless there was assigned reading I hadn't been able to get to. HOWEVER, now that I graduated and got a new job my commute is only 30 minutes and I feel like a new woman.
+Karen Reynoso You are lucky that you could at least study. I live an hour away from my university or 34 miles. I spend at least 2 hours Mon-Thurs driving. My peers have a much greater advantage to attend club meetings and be social compared to me. I work, drive, study, and can't forget about the crazy long naps.
This is me now. My commute is almost 2 hrs but I try to read on the train. It just sucks bc whenever ppl want to hang out you can't bc if you don't catch that train/bus now, you won't be home at a safe hour.
@@FrostyAUT Well, I guess that depends on where, but where I live at least the public transportation links are much better. No driving to the station, trains every 3 minutes. It takes her 2h30 to get to work. I'm not exactly close to work by the standards of my city (London) but by similar methods I can get to work in a third of the time.
I work in a different town than the city I live in (well, I did before the pandemic and several months of working at home), and I can still be there quite rapidly. A ten minute bike ride to the railway station, 17min on an intercity train, and then another ten minutes by bus, to a bus stop right in front of the office.
Bullshit. The reason most of us commute is because we can’t afford to live closer. The cities are where all the jobs are but the suburbs are where we can afford to live. I wouldn’t be living I Methuen if I could afford to live in Boston.
No you're bullshit. I've been living in brooklyn for a decade in a top floor apartment 1100 a month split with my girlfriend in clinton hill. About to move to a bigger place for 1500 in willamsburg. You guys are just too dumb to find a deal
I would love that! Unfortunately, most of the US train tracks are owned by the large train cargo companies. They are older and geared towards freight which doesn’t care how rough the ride is. So in order to put in high speed rail (approx. 200 mph) most of the rail would have to be new. That is extremely expensive. Most American politicians think in election cycles, not 30 to 50 years out. I lived in Europe for several years and I think if you got most Americans on to the Eurostar or TGV they would be sold. I still hope that we get it sooner than later.
Vehemently disagree with Mitchell Moss. (A) Extension of the work day: last time I checked on average workers are not reimbursed for their commute and are overwhelmingly underpaid. (B) Commuting has been viewed as source of stress, but in fact it gives people a break: Pretty language to persuade businesses to not pay workers for the extra hours they work. (C) Having a home that is accessible transportation, is far more important than having a home which is next to your job: As long as the transportation is Public, Inexpensive, and Reliable! Everyday amenities should be within walking distance! "Commuting time has emerged as the single strongest factor in the odds of escaping poverty. The longer an average commute in a given county, the worse the chances of low-income families there moving up the ladder.” Source: NYT Transportation Emerges as Crucial to Escaping Poverty
I voluntarily quit my job because the company that took over switched our offices to a further building. it wasnt necessarily farther from my home but the traffic makes it a longer commute. Do not settle guys. commuting is really a job in its own yet most companies dont really care and see it as one.
There's scientific proof that people work better for the entire day when they start at ~09:00-10:00. Unless the job requires earlier hours it's a worthwhile experiment in an economic sense. :)
Thomas 16.04 My commute I 1 1/2 to 2 hours each way. Yes, I live in NY like she does. No, I don’t want to move. I do wish my commute was shorter, but at this point in my life I’m not willing to exchange that for a shorter commute outside of a largish city. I can’t live in the suburbs so if I do leave maybe I’ll be in the bushes somewhere one day
Fortunately, the 8 hour workday SEEMS to be approaching the conveyor belt to death - research increasingly shows that it isn't efficient compared to shorter days, and that there are all sorts of health (mental and physical) issues that can come from it.
That's why you should choose a job that you like, a working environment that you like. If you can only get a job that you hate, you don't deserve to survive the modern world.
This is why we need high-speed electric trains running frequently on direct, well-designed routes through networks of accessible and well-placed stations. It would eliminate traffic, reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and save people a whole lot of time and stress.
There are those that can't afford to simply "move closer". For example, If you live in a major city, and work in the downtown area. Moving downtown can be heck of expensive! Being closer to work means paying ALOT for living expenses. Middle income to working poor can't afford to "just move" to cut their commute. So you live away from downtown, where cost of living in cheeper. You could also have a family that needs more space than a condo size home. So, you move toward the neighborhoods that can give you that. More than likely you are heading to a suburb. There are alot of people caught up in the commute cycle. If you are not consider yourself blessed, and try not to judge others who are.
If she's spending over an hour on the LIRR at peak times, she's probably paying at least $300-$400 per month on a monthly pass. Add in $115 or so for a monthly subway pass plus the cost of parking, gas, etc... and she's probably spending at least $600 a month on commuting, so the "can't afford it" argument doesn't really make sense. In the short term if you're living with family and just getting settled in to the job, it might make sense. It also might make sense if you can work from home 2-3 days a week, which many people do. However, at least in my mind, there doesn't seem to be a legitimate reason for her to do this over the long term if the reasons listed above aren't the case.
Matt Sezer hey, you do what you have to do to get to work. Their are many people ( myself included) that pay a high cost in transportation to get back and forth on the daily basis. This does not mean you are rolling in money LOL! Trust me on that! It just means we live in areas that the cost of Transportation is high. So you end up taking that money from other places and keeping a tighter budget .Although we live in tech driven times. There are still many that must go into work and don't have the ability to work from home. So you get up and do what needs to be done. The type of work that I do does not exist in my local community so I must travel to get to. Let me tell you the travel can get to you sometimes LOL!! I think she is just saying that the travel can wear you out sometimes and if others feel the same they are not crazy.
Matt Sezer She has a dog, a large one at that. To have a happy life he needs a yard. Even an apartment with a park nearby would still be hella cramped with a dog that big.
Nowhere did I say that you're rolling in money. What I'm saying is that at least to me, the money that you're spending on commuting would be better spent on moving closer to your job. Saying you can't afford to move closer, but you can afford to spend thousands a year on commuting doesn't make any sense. You may not want to move closer even though you could afford to, which is fine, but then you have to accept the long commute times. Also, Long Island isn't cheap, so I'd understand her not being able to afford to move closer if she had to come from some area of the Bronx that isn't well served by public transit.
Matt Sezer I'm feeling you on the idea that if someone could pay x amount of dollars for commute, then they should be able to just add that to the cost of their housing and just move. But that is making a big assumption that her cost of commute would be enough to add to her getting a place, and a place that would fit her housing needs.We would have to know first what she is already paying. She could also have family obligations that keep her from moving closer. For whatever reason she might have for dealing with this. Its a familiar situation for alot of people
I can't believe you just tried to find a silver lining on commuting. You want to read? Why not read at home? Much better. And do you really want to keep working on the bus or on a crowded subway train?? I've done it. It's not nice. Besides, what about the extra hours you're not being paid for? That dog that you played with at the end, he or she spent the day alone. We stay long hours at work and then commuting.. it's just killing you, that's all.
@@fbritorufino The gig economy is a lie to force young people to accept working minimum wage jobs with no guaranteed hours and no job security whilst corporations rake in record profits and CEOs enjoy hundred million dollar salaries.
Am a Graphic Designer from Hyderabad, India! I travel 3hrs to office & 3hrs to home = 6 hrs travel daily! 9 hours office work! Sleep is not sufficient to me, I sleep in my travels sometimes! I always get exhausted! My colleagues say that they travel to their villages in 3hrs! I reach my home at 10 or 10.45, no proper eating, no sufficient sleep, health issues, again get up at 5.30 morning! Routine, Routine, Routine!
I commute 2h 20m every day, and that's without factoring in delays and cancellations. With my 40h work week, I feel like I barely have the energy left for sports and hobbies, in other words, actually DOING something with my life. That's why I'm moving into the city, despite initially hating it. I trade disposable income for disposable time, the latter being the most impotant thing in life. Time is too precious to waste hours upon hours per month in traffic jams, overcrowded trains/subways or waiting for the next bus while exposed to heat or cold. I'm not saying that's always the case. Sometimes, I genuinely enjoy my commutes (via train, mainly). When it's quiet and I feel like I have most of the coach for myself, and the landscape just flies by, and the train is on time - then I love commuting by train.
Gaming and Tech that’s just not human nature, eventually the amount of popular cities will get smaller and smaller and some cities will get even bigger
I say we *actually keep track of military spending and make some cuts.* Reroute at least 1 billion $$ to transit infrastructure in the U.S. It's a pipedream, since the media is so good at ignoring the caotic military spending.
Horrible-Artist699 I think it's simplistic to blame this on American's love of cars when ultimately people make choices based on the affordability of an area. It is more expensive to live in dense urban area, which push the middle class and poorer citizens to the suburban rings surrounding those cities.
+CivilGuy I very strongly recommend choosing your house or apartment based on proximity to a bus line (or whatever form of public transportation is available). Also, live as close to work as you can afford, to shorten the commute. I live about six miles from work, and live within a five minute walk from the bus stop I take to work. The housing in the inner ring suburb where I live is very expensive, and the property taxes are high as well. But the extra costs are worth it. My commute is short, so I got more free time, and I get to spend my time on the bus reading the newspaper. Oh, and my auto maintenance costs are extremely low, since I pretty much only drive on the weekends. I only fill up my gas tank six or so times a year.
US has had pretty low investment in infrastructure for a long while. I mean walkways, bike lanes, public transport and stuff like that. Would really, REALLY help with lot of issues. More people could take public transport or move without a car. Especially in big cities urban planning is really important. It costs a quite bunch of money to have bad transport network. Good public transport alone will take a huge load off from roads. And with fast train its not that hard to design system that is quite precise.
Now that it's 2021, I'm glad to have been blessed with no commute for more than a year. Commuting does add extra stress and I'm blessed not to have it anymore.
I used to commute 3 hours every day to school/college. Although I didn't like it, I also didn't mind it because I hated my home environment anyways because of my dysfunctional family. Sometimes I would miss a train or a bus intentionally just to arrive home later when everyone was asleep, so I didn't have to talk to anybody. lol
Not really, I setup my podcasts before I leave driveway. About 45min drive to work and 45min back. Great asset is my local radio station is actually entertaining to listen to, when I want to take a break from podcasts.
Yeah, back when I was commuting by car, I'd just throw on a podcast or listen to the radio. That said, I still prefer listening to podcasts/radio on the bus since you don't actually have to pay attention to anything until you're close to your stop.
Mazxlol The thing that get me up in the morning is that i can use my kick scooter to zoom to my workplace from the train station . Ya so doing things you liked is important. Walking is a drag sometimes for me.
Is 2km walking distance I feel like doing this commute daily on foot is rather exhausting after a couple of.months since I started it and I am thinking to switch back to my car
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It was great that she presented both sides of the story but I believe a little more depth would have provided a more solid foundation for people to answer the question by themselves. Maybe a few more facts and their analysis, to support the second point
One time I was waiting for an express bus to get into Manhattan from the Bronx and it was supposed to pick me up at 5:00 PM, but it somehow got cancelled for no good reason, and I ended up having to wait another hour for the next bus. That next bus did arrive at 6:00 PM, but I almost lost a free transfer due to that happening, and that the bus route that I was riding only runs once every hour on weekdays in the off peak direction.
Chris Choi damn, during my University time I had to commute 5 min by bike to the trainstation, then take a train that will take me another 45 min. Last but not least walk to the campus for another 15 min. Every school day.
i go to boarding school so I wake up and just have to walk down the stairs in the morning. And to get to class i have to walk for about 2-4 minutes and can come back to my bedroom in breaks and study periods :3
I'm a CSIS student; most of it's lectures. And reading for information isn't really the same as reading for leisure or personal interests, to be frank :/
I travel 30-40 minutes with bus to my school (Not counting the time it takes to get to the bus). Been doing it for 4 years. I've learned that you just gotta make the best of it. I usually listen to podcast, and that gives the travel meaning. When I don't travel I kind of miss it, as I don't get to listen to my daily podcast. (Shout-out to the Weekly Planet Podcast)
Asap Animation Yep audiobooks, music, and podcasts keep me sane during my commutes. I only like driving when I'm going somewhere like on a trip out of town, but driving to work or school sucks.
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the average Commute door to door is 1 hour there and back that means you wasted 2 hours a day with no pay $ say you're getting $16 an hour you have wasted $32 on your Commute plus you might spend $10 a day on travel that's $45 each day so even if you got a crapy low paid low key local job at $ 12 an hour then you could work an extra 2 hours a day because you don't have to travel plus remember the money you save on travel . might give you peace of mind. this doesn't apply to everyone of course, just saying ...
That's how I thought and took a job thats only 10 minutes away on foot or 3 minutes by bike instead of one that pays 2€ more but has a daily commute of 1h.
I'm gonna say people generally are living further from larger cities and where their jobs are because living in them is getting more expensive and small towns don't seem to have as many jobs that can support you financially the way you'd like unless you get a trade job and even then... That's my observation, at least.
It's also incentivized, for instance I work as a contractor for a staffing firm and get paid $140 a day of non-taxed per diem if I live farther than 50 miles from the jobsite. My pay translates to about $30 an hour but when you factor in the the time for the 65 mile commute (one way) it works out to about $20 an hour. And after a month I feel physically drained and exhausted mostly because of the commute.
How about building more multi-story car parks instead of ripping out trees and still not having enough parking spaces? But I guess both would be unnecessary if just the people living closest to the station would arrive by bike
I thought Long Island is densely populated? Well, if they don't run out of land for more parking it will work, but sad for the trees... And actually you have to walk way longer on parking lots than on multi-story car parks, there you can just take a lift (and a short walk)
Not to mention that building a parking structure requires blocking off the area for the garage plus some surrounding area needed for use during construction. Doing this exacerbates the parking issue for many months while construction finishes.
I used to live in Newcastle, Australia and worked in Sydney. 2-hour train commute each way and there was always people travelling to work on the 4:30am train. There are so many good jobs based out of the big cities but they're too expensive to live in. Employers really need to embrace working in an active online environment so we can all live healthy lives.
What? Eh? Huh? Are trains, buses etc. in the US cleaned so infrequently that people view the clothes they wore on public transport as an infection risk???
Ethan Davis people don't usually live where they work anyway. Some of those areas even if they have no people living there, are really more like business districts. It's more abnormal that people live there than don't.
Would have been nice to hear more of how moving to a place with great bicycle infrastructure decreases the amount of stressed and depressed people in your neighborhood while also increasing lifespans among those neighbors while very significantly decreasing commute costs
Worse doesn't make bad acceptable. Its negative for society to have bad transit system. If people have a trouble get to work they cant make money. And if the work aren't commutable too then few people will be able to work there. Both of those things make the economy worse which in the long run lowers the standard of living for everyone. (i dont wanna be that guy but it all in all it also widens the gap between low income and high income). Im not saying all of the world problems can be solved with good transit systems. But in whole it is an investment that in the long run gives more back.
Toni Ros that’s the choice people make when they stay here.... I love the bad and the good about it and I think everyone who chooses to live here has an idea that it won’t be easy (unless mommy and daddy give you money of course)
It took me an hour to get to college where I lived and while I thoight I was gonna get a lot of reading/wrok done it never worked out that way. I ended up spending most of the time on my phone or worrying if I was gonna get to class on time. First, my kindle, books and notebooks all stay in my bag, so I would have to weep it out during the first train, put it back, weep it out again, all through 2 trains and a bus. Second of all, I couldn't always find a seat, and holding a kindle standing up while trying not to fall is pretyy annoying. As for audiobooks, I never got the time and concentration to actually download them and remember to play on the way, and considering how I was often thinking about what I had to do for the day, I probably wouldn't have gotten the best out of it anyway. Idk, maybe I'm not a commute person. I live 20 from college now, so I hope I won't oversleep as much next semester and will make a better use of my extra time
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Regardless of my commute whether it be 30 minutes or an hour, I still manage to get my 10 mile biking every other day and I love commuting by myself before the fact to all my great Tunes. A very happy to commute by myself hand crank up my radio. In the end it all really boils down to the attitude that you have and perceive in life. Your only down if you allow yourself to get down. I can just having some better Tunes to your commute. Hope it takes me an extra 30 minutes just give me another 30 minutes to jam out.
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Vox Nice, I get up 5am. And have to leave my home half hour later to be at work changed and everything at 6:45am.
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"people are *choosing* to commute more"
I don't think being pushed out of city centers due to increasing housing prices is much of a choice.
Long island is more expensive than most of nyc so thats a moot point when it comes to that especially if your commuting to nyc for work.
Some are pushed out due to polluted, noisy and overcrowded environment. If prices would fall down these problems would become even more severe.
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@@ligametis if businesses spread out demand could fall and so would prices. I don't understand why so many places have so many businesses on top of each other like silicon valley.
@@bl00dkillz all of long island..? I thought the only expensive part of long island was Montauk and the rest of the hamptons
2020: *i can fix that.*
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That was the only merit of this pandemic. Not having to spend 3 hours of all weekdays on public transports has been a blessing. I really would appreciate if companies overall switched to this model. Like 1/2 days working from the office and 3/4 days working from home 🙏
You can't beat the satisfaction of ending a workday and hitting the streets 10 minutes later to go for a run.
Or even when you're loaded with work, at least you can push your workday a little more without having to then face a 1.5/2h commute back home on top of that
It definitely did!
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I love my alone time when commuting tbh. I either read or listen to music. That's why I appreciate train drivers and bus drivers so much. Imagine doing that for hours non stop knowing that you have so many lives in your hands. Lets give them some appreciation guys.
issa osama I hope they get replaced by robots someday, not that I want them to get unemployed, its because its seems like a lonely, boring and stressful job. Can't imagine driving 12h per day.
Lucas Kikkawa I don't think robots are capable of making decisions to save lives. I don't think robots should replace humans in important jobs like that. Just me and my opinion tho.
I love bus and train riding too
@issa OsamaRobots already are. Have you never heard of self driving cars? If anything a bus would be even easier. We're already there buddy
@The Dead Immortal: Cool, where can I catch the next self-driving bus then? Oh, there are none? Self-driving cars don't even get a license yet? "We're already there"
You wake up at 6:15 to start work at 10. Good God, that is horrible, and yes, it's probably killing you. I rather live on a farm.
I am very confused on why this is bad cuz where I am from, I usually wake up at 5 am and go to school at 6, school starts at 7 30. I just usually sleep at 9 pm to satisfy that 8 hour recommended sleep hours
My school starts at 6:30 AM 😂, and I usually wake up at around 4:00 - 4:30
@@themradio4600 Yeah.. But I don't really sleep anyways thanks to all my homeworks and stuff.. 😂
@@themradio4600 my school is like on another neighborhood 😂
@@themradio4600 I work for US Foods.Try getting up at 2am to go drive a truck for a living!
"Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a car that you are still paying for - in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes and the car, and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it." -Ellen Goodman
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I don't own a car so I have some money left over but the point stands, we are in a rat race.
Welcome to slavery.
The only other option is to just live in the woods like a hermit. I'd rather work a job than that personally.
@@coolbrotherf127no? We can also advocate for better condition??
Americans aren't just "choosing" to commute farther and farther distances. We're designing for and incentivizing that choice.
Unfornutely, This is the case people all around the world who live big cities. I live in Chennai, India and this is the case here too plus it is hard to rent an apartment for yourself if you are a single woman.
@@MultiAjitha India has a similar problem. Workplaces are too far from (affordable) housing when they don't have to be. That's what Cas means by designing for and incentivizing.
@@MultiAjitha There's no stigma attached to living in joint families in India, right..? Then why not get some relatives to live with you and share the combined income you guys make?
_The Geography of Nowhere_ by James Howard Kunstler.
This video seems to be lacking an analysis of the economics of commuting - of how living near where you work is often prohibitively expensive and how long commutes are often a result of under-paid employees. There's a whole economic class dimension to the use of public transit (especially in more rural areas!) that is entirely missed here. Commuting isn't always as much of a "choice" as some might have you believe.
Actually people is rural areas commute much much less than people in cities... I live in a small rural area, my workplace is 30 miles away, it takes me about 15 minutes to get there
+RimmyJimmy
So you drive around 120 mph???
ice_hawk10 things like this made me curious as to why she works with such a long commute
RimmyJimmy but do people even make much money in these rural areas
@@rimmyjimmy8385 Most jobs are in big cities. Not everyone can find jobs in rural areas.
No word about high housing prices?! Yeah, right, we all choose that ... of course.....
Has more to do with zoning laws in the US, I think. Because the suburbs of cities in the US are all just endless urban sprawl, it takes ages to get from there to the city centre. Europe's medium-density residential areas have this problem to a far lesser extent.
@@rjfaber1991 Oh you gotta travel to bigger European cities, they all suffer from empty houses and sky-high prices. Do you want to live in the city? No, no, no, stay in the small town besides it and drive over two hours to your workplace.
@@hblaub Oh, I have. It's certainly true that prices do go up dramatically, but unless they are so high that you actually have to live in a town outside the city (which is certainly true for some, so you have a point), it isn't nearly as bad as in the US.
I personally actually work in a town that's only about 20% the size of the city I live in, so I have it the other way around, but of course there's more people who commute from towns to cities than from cities to towns.
This is exactly why people accept offers for a lower paying job than their current one that is closer to their home. It's for the sake of mental health
yup
Exactly, I took a job that was 15% less than a competing offer that was a literal mile away from home opposed to a 25 min drive each way. Not including gas, maintenance, and increased depreciation on the car, just the time alone was worth the 15% cut.
Sure
You find excuses everywhere
Like the title of this video
Ofc it s not your fault :))
It s "never your fault"
Grow up and take responsability
I just did this. I said no to a job that paid more plus tips. But now i can walk to work in 10 min. It's just so much better. I used to travel 2 hours there and back it was miserable. Even an hour there and back is bad
Also time is money... you may be getting less money but you can work more hours since it is closer and you spend less time
This definitely could have been more thoughtful about WHY people need to commute which generally comes down to cost of living/housing
that's true
lazy reporting gets you lazy reports
Hey, she spends five (!) hours a day commuting. Give her a break, lol.
I worked near downtown Dallas. I lived in an apartment 1/4 mile from work for 13 years. People were commuting from southern Oklahoma.
Why do I commute 1 hour 20 mins? ‘Cause I can’t afford to live in SF and that’s the only place with decent paying jobs where I am 😂 I love how they make it sound like it’s a lifestyle choice. I’m pretty sure nobody would CHOOSE to commute if they didn’t have to.
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This was the most informative and intelligent post that I've read so far. I agree.
I am agreed that one may have no choice, although would you swap your detached house in the suburbs for a tiny apartment in SF?
It's not a decent paying job if it doesn't let you afford rent on a place close to work.
And a lot of it is because of shitty urban planning with American cities. They were planned around the car because when the car was new and fresh there wasn't enough traffic to be pulling your brains out. Only middle class and upper class working men had cars to commute. Add on a lower population overall and there were way less cars on the road so it didn't seem to horrible to design cities around cars. In say German cities you can find affordable-ish housing within the same urban zone and never need a car. Public transport to work, you walk to the grocery store because everything is a cornerstore just down the block, not a Walmart every five miles, and you take the train if you have to go to a different city. A much better commute and much more efficient use of urban space than megahighways and endless rows of suburban housing.
I just made the move from the Bay Area to the Big Island of Hawaii where its actually a little cheaper to live. Tropical paradise vs. Urban Hellscape and you pay less for property?
The commute from the south bay into Mountain View was eroding my soul. Being in car jail for 3-4 hours 5 days a week is maddening.
I'm so glad we have such effortless public transit in the Netherlands. You can pretty much bike anywhere, and catch a train on most stations every 15 minutes 🙏 Eventhough there's a certain frustration to our public transit provides, I can't imagine what it's like in the US. Props to you for making that effort!
Well distances in Holland are tiny compared to the US. Long Island itself is 200km long. The New York City area however is a magnet for business and probably too centralised for it's own good.
@@tasmapittock5680 What is this "Holland" you're talking about?
@@rjfaber1991 You're acting like an arrogant European in the comments.. what's the deal with you 😂😂??
@@tasmapittock5680 "Theoretical distances" are not relevant. You can work in Midtown Manhattan and live in Williamsburg and still commute quicker than a person from Amsterdam. And a person from Long Island can very well work within biking distance from their home.
I wake up at 6 am to take a bus that takes 1- 1.5 hrs to get me to college. It’s awful
I took an 8% salary cut for a job that's MUCH closer and much more full-filling. I cannot recommend it enough! Yes, I have to be mindful with spending (I tutor 2 hours a week for extra cash), but I'm much happier! 😊
Good for you
Money isn’t everything
I took a 40% pay cut for a job that was 5 min away, compared to my previous that was 1hour away. Best decision ever.
Much more full-filling is the operative words. No brainer.
@@ronnie4661 No, but NOT having money is. It costs money to eat and it costs money to feed other people.
My mental health dramatically improved when my commute changed from a 30 minutes to an hour on the freeway, to 10 minutes in my neighborhood.
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I am literally trying to join you
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The majority of people commute for jobs they could do remotely.
I literally do all my work on my computer and do not talk to anyone for most if the day, it is definitely something I can do from my couch at home
@@fashionluvr15 what is your job?
yet most bosses want you to be physically present in the office just to prove that you are a human being and not a machine
EcoDimension and some other companies outsource whole departments overseas but can fathom the possibiliy of data entry clerks and analysts doing the same jobs locally from home.
Indeed, my boyfriend's job requires him to be there just because they don't want the office to be empty.
This seemed to take an odd turn. She talked about how commutes are ruining our mental health and then that guy said "it's not dead space " and now it makes it okay? That doesn't take away all the detractors but trying to put it in a different light
I took it as finding the silver lining and trying to make your mental health issues worse but giving you bit of control. I found it ironic that most of the suggestions don't work for drivers- reading a book, doing your work, etc.
Nope, I thought the same thing. Odd video essay.
i hate commuting so much. it takes nearly two hours to commute from my house to college only to arrive in classes where the prof just reads the textbook or powerpoint slides. if i miss one of the buses add 20+ more minutes to the commute. i can't even read on the bus because it makes me feel dizzy and most of the times i cannot even find a place to sit cause the buses are PACKED. most days i just look out the window listening to sad songs contemplating whether to end it all.
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This is so relatable... It's eating my time and my mood. Every day by the time I finally get off the subway and start the day I'm already emotionally drained.
Oh I feel your pain! My commute to Uni this past year and a half has made me so depressed and unhealthy
I travel 6 hours a day to and from Uni. With the Uni day lasting from 8:30am to 7:30pm.
I am at the point where I can NOT find the motivation anymore! I'm always questioning if I'm even capable of finishing this course. I genuinely feel like I am killing myself with it all
doritos i know this is a very old comment but my college was 1.30-2 hours away and there isn’t even a schedule for mini-buses to know if it’s even coming anytime soon. Then I started to teach there so now my work is 2 hours away. It is a lot of stress but I am able to read and prepare for my lectures etc. however, if you can’t read on the bus, then download podcasts. The best way to learn while commuting for sure! I have learned about so many different topics.
You can look up most highly rated podcasts and give it a try. It will make your commute so much better.
Hell no. I would rather live in a 200 sq ft studio cube near my workplace than live in a mansion miles away and have to commute 2 -3 hrs.
If only that were the option - I live in a subsidized suburban studio a 50 minute commute from my city-center office. I can't afford to live any closer without roommates, and even then I can only afford my current place because of the subsidized rent. And every mile further from the metro is a higher price to get to and from work every day. And I make a "normal" salary for someone my age and have a part-time job on the weekends.
200 square foot _is_ a mansion in Hong Kong
And some people have children, just saying...
@@NotAMathGuy Why? Is it cause commuting is obsolete now because of corona?
tfw you can only afford a shoebox and commuting 2hrs.
0:50 The problem is literally right behind her.
Instead of a parking lot next to a train station, the town should be around the train station. You should be able to walk to it or ride a bike to it.
Sprawl is a huge problem. America's urban land usage is horrible.
Here in Washington DC, MD and VA, the region is beginning to figure this out.
Mixed use around these stations is SMART GROWTH.
Single 2 story homes where you drive everywhere or drive to train stations is a waste of land, a waste of ones time, and overall just stupid.
Make our communities more walkable will make all of us healthier.
i agree with this...i hate how us americans are so dependent on cars
pretty hard thing to fix though.
may vr we have a train called BART in my city. I’m 4 miles away. We have a dozen county buses, including our own city funded buses that go to the train station. Does anyone use em? Partially... everyone drives!
@@m3rl1on DMV is doing this (DC, Maryland, Virginia) Check out Rockville Pike in Maryland......
It starts with rezoing. And once local developers in your area realizes this is very profitable for them, then it can be done. Like I said, its happening here.
Jessen's Channel It takes money and political will, and we have neither.
Commuting doesn't give us a break. Going to point A to B is sometimes more stressful than working.
Way more stressful than working, for me, when working I fell productive but during the commute I feel that my life is being wasted away
It depends on your commute and how you see it. Personally I love metro I love commuting on it and I even specifically find activities that force me to take it.
Work sleep repeat. Work sleep repeat. Work sleep repeat.
We are Slaves. And don’t even care or notice.
But that's what the whole world does. Some even work 12 hours a day. You need workers to keep society running and give people meaning.
A boring job that you don't care about does not give you meaning. And other societies have figured out ways to work much less, be much happier, and still have a functioning society... It's America man and this work ethic we preach to poor people so rich people can live lives of leisure. And as a result, most Americans have little spending money which is why we all seem to turn a blind eye towards the sweatshops producing our electronics, clothes, and tools. Consumer culture is awful.
weekends? friends at work? lunch break? entertainment during commute?
@@tomoyohermosa Yeah, give people meaning by taking their freedom, and told them it is for greater good.
its not that she doesnt wanna move its that she actually financially cannot. living anywhere in nyc is incredibly expensive so she's forced to commute.
To be fair, Long Island is expensive, too and owning a car is expensive. And not everyone wants to live in Jersey City or Newark.
Rachel Arnold exactly so its not like she can just "move elsewhere" like thats just not the best option even though it should be
Did you see how big her house and yard were? And as far as I'm aware she lives alone. She could get a house that's a little bit smaller and cut like 20 minutes off her commute, one way.
Then move.
Rachel Arnold I’m in a suburb of Newark and I gotta say NJT has been a lot more efficient than other services recently. With the express trains it takes as little as 15 minutes to get from the station in town to penn station. A local train takes 40 minutes. The downside is though you are paying for that convenience in property taxes.
"Why do so many of us do it?" -- Suburban sprawl. Bad urbanism.
THANK YOU I WAS HOPING SOMEONE WOULD SAY IT
Did she make this so Vox would let her work from home?😂
As if there's anything remotely important going on in the actual Vox offices anyway.
@@alikazerani Yeah lol most of the work is done by individual reporters and some camera people. The writing staff need to be together obviously but the reporters do not need to go to work every day.
Did anyone else feel like there was no conclusion to this video...? It felt like an abrupt ending that didn’t convey a strong closing point. There is definitely missing something.
I thought the way this video ended was a bit off as well and it just suddenly ended.
All vox videos are like this....
They made a strong claim in the title and then completely retreated from it.
That is called clickbait / bait&switch or just lying...
Why can't they just build a multiple level parking garage...poor trees!!!
Costs tens of thousands of dollars to make a parking spot in a city just for one car
wtfwc construction would be an inconvenience for people? Idk maybe
They should build apartments next to the train stations and get rid of the parking. Parking just encourages poor development habits.
you know,muricans
I heard that cities start taxing anything past ground level heavily or something along those lines
I wonder if working from home should be an option? 2.5 hour commute one way equals 5 in total. That’s close to an entire work day and seems really freaking sad!
abluemug Working from home is a nice idea but for many jobs it's just not a possibility for one reason or another.
abluemug Not likely there will be lots of jobs out there where u can work from home. The company wants to have control over their employees
A lot of people would find themselves pretty socially isolated if they didn’t get to work with others which would also be bad for their health.
Working from home is often countered with "that's just not possible for this job". If you are a contractor building houses or a cashier at a store, fair enough.
But in many cases, you can consolidate office-activities to one or more days, and provide the tools to employers to do the rest from home. Even a teacher spends 20-40% of their time not in front of a class, developing new lessons and correcting tests...
I think most people would be much healthier if they could split the week and spend for example the Wednesday away from the office.
If you get loads of people together and create a cooperative you're life will be a lot easier
I don't care how close you are to the job, if you have to leave your house to go to it, you should be paid for the hour before and the hour after. If you live far enough to make it more than an hour commute to and from, than you deserve 4 hours of additional pay per day you work. This is especially true for all jobs that were able to be done from home, because there's no longer any reason to demand your employees to come into work if they can do all that work from home.
The build up in this video is really great but the conclusion feels rushed and incomplete.
They had to get home!
Another take on this: Affordable Housing.
While I assume the vlogger in this video loves her job, she is likely not being paid well enough to live in Manhattan (I assume she works in Manhattan b/c she stated that she arrives to Penn Station). But living in Manhattan is extremely expensive, especially if you want space.
There might be an argument for a simpler lifestyle, one without all the comforts of suburban living, but we aren't there as a society yet. But when I worked in DC, it still took me ~20-30 minutes to get 2 miles to my job in the Navy Yard neighborhood on the Metro with the transfer.
We need our local governments to ensure that new housing developments have a healthy mix of affordable and market rate housing so we can all live healthy lives regardless of socioeconomic status.
Affordable housing, better walkability, more functional public transport infrastructure and less support for cars are all in the public interest. Affordable housing with designs that encourage community will also mean that the commute could be more social and thus more enjoyable and less taxing and could be used to offset the sacrifice of suburban comforts and to create a sense of place. Shared indoor spaces to offset the loss of housing space, shared green spaces to offset the loss of the ‘yard’.
Yeah this is also Vox's fault; they're not paying enough to ensure she can avoid a home nearer to where she works
Most media companies don't pay well. It's the Catch 22 of young media people. Either take a decent paying job in TV media in say, Elko, Nevada but never really able to create a national profile and limit your options OR take a shitty paying job in NYC, LA, or DC ("shitty pay" in NYC is probably upper class living in Elko, NV) but have a better chance of creating your national profile that will lead to the big bucks.
It depends.
CardsNHorns04 Yeah here in LA there's zero affordable housing and you have to move further east to get cheaper homes but means longer commute times
CardsNHorns04 I remember the days when you could be working class and live in Manhattan. Now you have to be upper middle class in order to afford the rent.
This video feels like a retread of the articles cited at the beginning of this piece. And, it doesn't actually fit the title. Interesting video, but it doesn't feel like there was enough content in there. Especially about why people commute in the first place - rising rent prices in dense areas, the need to be out of a large city, and the other multitude of reasons I'm sure you can come up with. And it doesn't discuss how these commutes are, in fact, harmful to your health. In fact, it seems to veer pro-commute at the end of the video with that interview.
Yeah the video doesn't really have a clear takeaway. I'd probably add a "what you can do!" which would be to push for much bigger housing developments near public transportation.
I feel like all vox videos don’t have a clear takeaway, that’s why I’m unsubscribing
X ACT LEE
THANK YOU she just seemed like she was ranting about her "poor commute life" without saying anything substantial
firewordsparkler i guess because Vox's mission is mostly just to help people "understand the news" (?)
The silver lining from Covid is the work from home...
Now I commute from my bed to the table :)
Commute two hours each way from New Jersey to Queens since I moved in with my parents. I was able to pay off about $17,000 worth of student debt after only 7 months, but it’s definitely left me depressed. There’s no room for a life, and when I do get home, I’m in the middle of the suburbs.
Soon I’ll be paying $1,700 per month to live in midtown Manhattan, but I honestly think it’s a better choice for my well being.
Where ya at now?
I live in a small town and it sucks
The cost of living in Manhattan is nuts. It forces people who work there and have a family to commute for hours a day.
Long commuting not only makes you sick, but create ghost town during the day. This american dream of buying the biggest house 1 hour away from your work slowly eating our lives.
Nomadic Julien whose American dream is that? One hour away, why not ten minutes? It’s totally possible.
Well said!
A logical libtard? Interesting.
Liberals don't just live in cities, they never advocated for free puppies and 6 month long breaks....Here it's a small town and the conservatives fight against abortion even if they aren't suited to take up a kid for adoption, they get fat, live on their employment insurance and child insurance, marry their cousin because the government is going to take care of ...it.....when they are senile.... and I'm the trow away morals/money liberal? You're the kinda person that makes me want to be a eugenist.
Most AA don't even know what liberalism nor conservatism means. They just follow and believe what their elected liberal politicians, Hollywood, ESPN and MSM say. For them, liberals are portrayed as heroes and conservatives are the evil racists.
Listening to podcasts and audiobooks changed my life. I am happier now and don't mind the commute as much.
the thing is, there's a point when it grows old. I used to say the same
@@andrelopes8688 i agree. I use to be like 'ill listen to podcasts'. But a few months in there have been times when i just wanted to get home after a long day but no, i have to sit in 2 hr traffic on an buss made for short people
I do that too but it gets old at least for me. I just want to be home.
Can Gunaydin same thing here, I recently discovered “Conan OBrien Needs A Friend” Podcast. It helps a bit.
What can you recommend to listen exactly?
That's just looking at mental health; the commute can make you physically sick too. In my country - even before Covid became a thing - we had this ongoing issue with people travelling on buses to go to work even while sick. They would cough and sneeze throughout the trip, thus sharing their germs and viruses with everybody else, especially when the windows were kept closed. Avoiding those situations is one of the things that's made me truly grateful about working from home.
Crazy! 2 hours to get to the job?! I spend 30 minutes and I'm not happy!
Shut up, I dream about spending on public transport not more than 30 minutes.
you happiness in your head . try to activate your brain cells by reading interesting book!
dfsadsdas dasda books are overrated anyway. you can easily get a summary on youtube and spending time practicing it instead of letting the author fill your brain with his stupid life stories
@@AlexeiMotoRin Not really, reading or listening to podcasts in a busy train or bus is very different than at your sofa at home, I have tried it endless times and can assure you it is very different
For those who live near, choose a BICYCLE = exercise + transportation + motivation.
+ sweat :/
Francine Kloh Trust me, you sweat a lot more if you walk
that is why rich people are getting healthier, cause they live in downtown manhattan, and bike to work meanwhile they can save time and turn it into productivity and rest. welcome to 21 century capitalism.
+ it's nearly free in comparison to gas prices.
You can cycle a small amount and still make a difference. Instead of that 5 minute drive to the train station, she could do a 10 minute bike ride, weather permitting. It being winter, though, I can forgive that - for all we know, that's exactly what she does in the summer.
I do this exact commute everyday. Live in long island, commute to manhattan. It's very stressful
Meatcrob1 LI REPRESENTS
I had this commute for a while too. Nearly killed me. I've since moved and I walk 20-30 minutes to work each day.
move
Sina move to Manhattan where it costs $2800 a month for a 1 bedroom apartment the size of an elementary school classroom? Some people aren't blessed with funds to do that. You got a lot to learn about the world
And Long Island is quite expensive too. A $500,000 house on LI is a dump, but in other areas its practically a mansion, lol.
Make no mistake-- building that much unnecessary travel into your daily routine isn't just killing you. It's killing the world you live in.
Exactly
My commute to high school is 1 hour long.... Nyc trains are just slow af
Pintexx bro wtf why is it 1 hour in nyc how do you not go to a high school like 20 mins from you????
Collin / SeaElTea i commute an hour each way to highschool too (in chicago) because my neighborhood school isn’t as good as the magnet one i got into
Pintexx Left Manhattan, went to Seattle. Now Seattle has bad traffic too. I’d take the Subways over the bus any day.
Mine is from 5:50 to 8:30 am (not in the US tho) :)
Feathers 6:45 To 8:30... You win
it's impressive how when they begin to scratch the surface of the subject, they just end the video...
(I'm saying this after watching some other videos of them)
GoldPurpleGotic Time and money are scarce. Im glad they at least posted what they did
I feel like they grabbed my attention and delivered nothing
I was thinking the same, it was like hey my name is.... Jajaja
Nah, I think they reached some solid conclusions. Commuting is good because you can spend that time "alone", reading, or listening to podcasts, which there's apparently no way you could ever manage at home. And commuting, because it's so awful, makes you more grateful to get home. Incredible, grand insights.
I noticed that too. The premise catches your attention, but overall the result feels totally underdeveloped.
why is the dog not mentioned in the credits
He prefers to remain anonymous.
I commuted to the city by public transport for about 4 years. My commute consisted of 2 busses and 2 trains for a total of 2.5hrs - 3hrs each way. Yep that's not an over exaggeration 5 - 6 hours per day commuting. This commute literally drove me into a huge dark rut of depression. I found driving made me much happier but unfortunately driving to the city is not usually an option so I used to drive as far as I could and then park at a station and get the train the rest of the way. A tip for anyone commuting far that hate public transport, get a motorcycle. You'll look forward to going to and from work every day for that ride and you can park in the city. Also you can lane split and beat traffic so it's literally the quickest option.
It's not you, living is bad for your health.
Its true! What will we ever do! More to cry about!
Life...work...repeat...repeat..die. The end. Lol
Being born is a death sentence
staying alive is hard....
Preach
When I was in college my commute was an hour and a half from home to school, then another hour from school to work and another hour from work, home. You can imagine I didn't have as much time for homework as most of my classmates who lived close to campus and didn't have jobs, but I used my commutes for studying/reading/listening to assigned podcasts or even taking power naps between school and work to get through the day. When I had to stay up really late I wouldn't worry to much about it because I knew I could get an hour of sleep on the way to school... unless there was assigned reading I hadn't been able to get to.
HOWEVER, now that I graduated and got a new job my commute is only 30 minutes and I feel like a new woman.
+Karen Reynoso You are lucky that you could at least study. I live an hour away from my university or 34 miles. I spend at least 2 hours Mon-Thurs driving. My peers have a much greater advantage to attend club meetings and be social compared to me. I work, drive, study, and can't forget about the crazy long naps.
Karen Reynoso you should have dormed at University to save you time. I did and it was only a 45min drive from home lol
This is me now. My commute is almost 2 hrs but I try to read on the train. It just sucks bc whenever ppl want to hang out you can't bc if you don't catch that train/bus now, you won't be home at a safe hour.
You didn't even touch on the reason why most people commute...
because we should just smile and take it up the ass with public transportation. see how its all our fault!
Are you gonna finish that thought, or simply leave us in suspense forever?
xxedwin818xx Which is what? Lack of affordable housing near where they work?
xxedwin818xx ??
bcubed72 bingo.....affordable housing
gotta love tightly packed European cities
Oh believe me, Europe has the exact same problem. The percentage of commuters and the average distance to work are steadily increasing as well.
@@FrostyAUT Well, I guess that depends on where, but where I live at least the public transportation links are much better. No driving to the station, trains every 3 minutes. It takes her 2h30 to get to work. I'm not exactly close to work by the standards of my city (London) but by similar methods I can get to work in a third of the time.
I work in a different town than the city I live in (well, I did before the pandemic and several months of working at home), and I can still be there quite rapidly. A ten minute bike ride to the railway station, 17min on an intercity train, and then another ten minutes by bus, to a bus stop right in front of the office.
Hong Kong probably suit you. Packed city with very frequent public transportations.
My commute in London via tube was an hour and that's considered short.
Bullshit. The reason most of us commute is because we can’t afford to live closer. The cities are where all the jobs are but the suburbs are where we can afford to live. I wouldn’t be living I Methuen if I could afford to live in Boston.
zh11147 And if I didn’t still have ~$25k in student loans
This is the correct answer
Spencer O'Dowd you hit that nail in the head !
No you're bullshit. I've been living in brooklyn for a decade in a top floor apartment 1100 a month split with my girlfriend in clinton hill. About to move to a bigger place for 1500 in willamsburg. You guys are just too dumb to find a deal
Spencer O'Dowd ahh...vut you can afford closer living. Your standards are just higher. Welcome to materialism.
Who wishes their city had a bullet train? ✋
+John Johnson.
Classic socialist troll. Go leave in Venezuela if you love communism so much.
I would love that! Unfortunately, most of the US train tracks are owned by the large train cargo companies. They are older and geared towards freight which doesn’t care how rough the ride is. So in order to put in high speed rail (approx. 200 mph) most of the rail would have to be new. That is extremely expensive. Most American politicians think in election cycles, not 30 to 50 years out. I lived in Europe for several years and I think if you got most Americans on to the Eurostar or TGV they would be sold. I still hope that we get it sooner than later.
airline industry would not be happy thus no bullet train
Nah we filipinos indubai have it already
Who wishes their country had a bullet train? Australia still don't have one
Vehemently disagree with Mitchell Moss.
(A) Extension of the work day: last time I checked on average workers are not reimbursed for their commute and are overwhelmingly underpaid.
(B) Commuting has been viewed as source of stress, but in fact it gives people a break: Pretty language to persuade businesses to not pay workers for the extra hours they work.
(C) Having a home that is accessible transportation, is far more important than having a home which is next to your job: As long as the transportation is Public, Inexpensive, and Reliable! Everyday amenities should be within walking distance!
"Commuting time has emerged as the single strongest factor in the odds of escaping poverty. The longer an average commute in a given county, the worse the chances of low-income families there moving up the ladder.” Source: NYT Transportation Emerges as Crucial to Escaping Poverty
I voluntarily quit my job because the company that took over switched our offices to a further building. it wasnt necessarily farther from my home but the traffic makes it a longer commute.
Do not settle guys. commuting is really a job in its own yet most companies dont really care and see it as one.
You begin at 10 every day? Wth I begin at 7 so I gotta get up at 5:30 every morning. Must've picked the wrong profession.
well considering her profession they probably have flexitime, perhaps with morning core hours 10-12
There's scientific proof that people work better for the entire day when they start at ~09:00-10:00. Unless the job requires earlier hours it's a worthwhile experiment in an economic sense. :)
she only get's up 45 minutes later than you though
She starts at ten, but she also wakes up at 6:15 and doesn't get home until 8 or 8:45, so there's that
I have school at 8:20 I wake up at 4:45-5 every morning
Especially if you live in populated countries, commute is not peaceful at all.
6AM to 8PM, Jesus.... I can't imagine having that little time for life and hobbies. I get up at 8:45AM and I'm home for 6PM lol.
Thomas 16.04 My commute I 1 1/2 to 2 hours each way. Yes, I live in NY like she does. No, I don’t want to move. I do wish my commute was shorter, but at this point in my life I’m not willing to exchange that for a shorter commute outside of a largish city. I can’t live in the suburbs so if I do leave maybe I’ll be in the bushes somewhere one day
Fortunately, the 8 hour workday SEEMS to be approaching the conveyor belt to death - research increasingly shows that it isn't efficient compared to shorter days, and that there are all sorts of health (mental and physical) issues that can come from it.
People are too into how cool they think NYC is to actually realize they don't need it.
I remember when I had a part time job too.
That's why you should choose a job that you like, a working environment that you like. If you can only get a job that you hate, you don't deserve to survive the modern world.
This is why we need high-speed electric trains running frequently on direct, well-designed routes through networks of accessible and well-placed stations. It would eliminate traffic, reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and save people a whole lot of time and stress.
It’s a commuter train
No need for any high speed train
There are those that can't afford to simply "move closer". For example, If you live in a major city, and work in the downtown area. Moving downtown can be heck of expensive! Being closer to work means paying ALOT for living expenses. Middle income to working poor can't afford to "just move" to cut their commute. So you live away from downtown, where cost of living in cheeper. You could also have a family that needs more space than a condo size home. So, you move toward the neighborhoods that can give you that. More than likely you are heading to a suburb. There are alot of people caught up in the commute cycle. If you are not consider yourself blessed, and try not to judge others who are.
If she's spending over an hour on the LIRR at peak times, she's probably paying at least $300-$400 per month on a monthly pass. Add in $115 or so for a monthly subway pass plus the cost of parking, gas, etc... and she's probably spending at least $600 a month on commuting, so the "can't afford it" argument doesn't really make sense. In the short term if you're living with family and just getting settled in to the job, it might make sense. It also might make sense if you can work from home 2-3 days a week, which many people do. However, at least in my mind, there doesn't seem to be a legitimate reason for her to do this over the long term if the reasons listed above aren't the case.
Matt Sezer hey, you do what you have to do to get to work. Their are many people ( myself included) that pay a high cost in transportation to get back and forth on the daily basis. This does not mean you are rolling in money LOL! Trust me on that! It just means we live in areas that the cost of Transportation is high. So you end up taking that money from other places and keeping a tighter budget .Although we live in tech driven times. There are still many that must go into work and don't have the ability to work from home. So you get up and do what needs to be done. The type of work that I do does not exist in my local community so I must travel to get to. Let me tell you the travel can get to you sometimes LOL!! I think she is just saying that the travel can wear you out sometimes and if others feel the same they are not crazy.
Matt Sezer She has a dog, a large one at that. To have a happy life he needs a yard. Even an apartment with a park nearby would still be hella cramped with a dog that big.
Nowhere did I say that you're rolling in money. What I'm saying is that at least to me, the money that you're spending on commuting would be better spent on moving closer to your job. Saying you can't afford to move closer, but you can afford to spend thousands a year on commuting doesn't make any sense. You may not want to move closer even though you could afford to, which is fine, but then you have to accept the long commute times. Also, Long Island isn't cheap, so I'd understand her not being able to afford to move closer if she had to come from some area of the Bronx that isn't well served by public transit.
Matt Sezer I'm feeling you on the idea that if someone could pay x amount of dollars for commute, then they should be able to just add that to the cost of their housing and just move. But that is making a big assumption that her cost of commute would be enough to add to her getting a place, and a place that would fit her housing needs.We would have to know first what she is already paying. She could also have family obligations that keep her from moving closer. For whatever reason she might have for dealing with this. Its a familiar situation for alot of people
I can't believe you just tried to find a silver lining on commuting. You want to read? Why not read at home? Much better. And do you really want to keep working on the bus or on a crowded subway train?? I've done it. It's not nice. Besides, what about the extra hours you're not being paid for? That dog that you played with at the end, he or she spent the day alone. We stay long hours at work and then commuting.. it's just killing you, that's all.
EXACTLY! And that guy at the end is TERRIBLE!
i cant get any reading done at home, distractions everywhere
commute reading makes the time pass by, it's great & productive
@@kn00tcn first of all you need to start and spend about 1-2 hours for two days and you READy !
Because time, some people don't HAVE the time to read or listen to music at home.
@@fbritorufino The gig economy is a lie to force young people to accept working minimum wage jobs with no guaranteed hours and no job security whilst corporations rake in record profits and CEOs enjoy hundred million dollar salaries.
Am a Graphic Designer from Hyderabad, India!
I travel 3hrs to office & 3hrs to home = 6 hrs travel daily! 9 hours office work!
Sleep is not sufficient to me, I sleep in my travels sometimes!
I always get exhausted!
My colleagues say that they travel to their villages in 3hrs!
I reach my home at 10 or 10.45, no proper eating, no sufficient sleep, health issues, again get up at 5.30 morning! Routine, Routine, Routine!
same with me, at Jakarta
Christian Theodorus So sad man!
That's rough, man. );
Spair Exhausts me daily!😢
I travel from the city outskirts to the city other side! Just like an Adventure daily!
oh dead that’s bad! it’s by train or bus? i hope you find a better way to commute to work sometime!
I commute 2h 20m every day, and that's without factoring in delays and cancellations. With my 40h work week, I feel like I barely have the energy left for sports and hobbies, in other words, actually DOING something with my life. That's why I'm moving into the city, despite initially hating it. I trade disposable income for disposable time, the latter being the most impotant thing in life. Time is too precious to waste hours upon hours per month in traffic jams, overcrowded trains/subways or waiting for the next bus while exposed to heat or cold. I'm not saying that's always the case. Sometimes, I genuinely enjoy my commutes (via train, mainly). When it's quiet and I feel like I have most of the coach for myself, and the landscape just flies by, and the train is on time - then I love commuting by train.
This is why urban sprawl needs to stop. We need to make our cities denser, not bigger but Americans love our cars for whatever reason.
Renovator ayeee
We need more cities, period. The problem is everyone goes to the top 4 or 5 big cities, the rest are noticeably less busy and dense by comparison.
Gaming and Tech that’s just not human nature, eventually the amount of popular cities will get smaller and smaller and some cities will get even bigger
I say we *actually keep track of military spending and make some cuts.* Reroute at least 1 billion $$ to transit infrastructure in the U.S.
It's a pipedream, since the media is so good at ignoring the caotic military spending.
Horrible-Artist699 I think it's simplistic to blame this on American's love of cars when ultimately people make choices based on the affordability of an area. It is more expensive to live in dense urban area, which push the middle class and poorer citizens to the suburban rings surrounding those cities.
Such a lot of time wasted in your car for hrs. Hopefully my future career will allow me to use cleaner and better methods of transportation.
Same
Electric self-driving cars.
+GT6SuzukaTimeTrials self driving cars are even more depressing when it takes the fun out of driving
one of the things left out of this video is that commuting is in fact causing the extinction of your own species.
+CivilGuy I very strongly recommend choosing your house or apartment based on proximity to a bus line (or whatever form of public transportation is available). Also, live as close to work as you can afford, to shorten the commute. I live about six miles from work, and live within a five minute walk from the bus stop I take to work. The housing in the inner ring suburb where I live is very expensive, and the property taxes are high as well. But the extra costs are worth it. My commute is short, so I got more free time, and I get to spend my time on the bus reading the newspaper. Oh, and my auto maintenance costs are extremely low, since I pretty much only drive on the weekends. I only fill up my gas tank six or so times a year.
US has had pretty low investment in infrastructure for a long while. I mean walkways, bike lanes, public transport and stuff like that. Would really, REALLY help with lot of issues. More people could take public transport or move without a car. Especially in big cities urban planning is really important. It costs a quite bunch of money to have bad transport network.
Good public transport alone will take a huge load off from roads. And with fast train its not that hard to design system that is quite precise.
Now that it's 2021, I'm glad to have been blessed with no commute for more than a year. Commuting does add extra stress and I'm blessed not to have it anymore.
How are you able to have a dog when you are away each day from about 8 a.m. to 8 p.m.??
Celisar1 dog sitter
Family member
Partner
By neglecting the dog really. :/ That's the real truth.
It’s kinda 6am bc she is too busy getting ready for work
I used to commute 3 hours every day to school/college. Although I didn't like it, I also didn't mind it because I hated my home environment anyways because of my dysfunctional family. Sometimes I would miss a train or a bus intentionally just to arrive home later when everyone was asleep, so I didn't have to talk to anybody. lol
Circe 你可以适当的运动放松调节心情
Dragoon Z Probably cost
+Dragoon, Yeah, cost was the issue. Also, my mother threatened suicide when I tried to move out.
Was the round trip 6 hrs? Any tips on how to manage school with 6 hrs long commute
If you drive to work, you don’t have time to catch up on anything. It’s hard to think about your day when your focusing on the road
Not really, I setup my podcasts before I leave driveway. About 45min drive to work and 45min back.
Great asset is my local radio station is actually entertaining to listen to, when I want to take a break from podcasts.
Yeah, back when I was commuting by car, I'd just throw on a podcast or listen to the radio. That said, I still prefer listening to podcasts/radio on the bus since you don't actually have to pay attention to anything until you're close to your stop.
2:42 As a new yorker, that "stand clear of the closing doors please" made me panic a little.
i spend 2 hours day driving/commuting. Sometimes i wonder why i am wasting my life
i have a coworker that spend that much time every day, so in comparison to him my commute is nice LOL
Cycle or motorbike. That's an awful lot of your life you aren't going to get back.
i have a motorcycle, lately though its been really cold so i've been driving ;)
Mazxlol The thing that get me up in the morning is that i can use my kick scooter to zoom to my workplace from the train station .
Ya so doing things you liked is important.
Walking is a drag sometimes for me.
It's not like you were going to do anything meaningful with your life anyways.
I feel you, but it’s a dream where your workplace is within walking distance.
Here in Europe most people can walk or take the bike to work
+Emil you're from Northern Europe aren't you?
Francisco "Zocan" Nunes Ja
Is 2km walking distance I feel like doing this commute daily on foot is rather exhausting after a couple of.months since I started it and I am thinking to switch back to my car
Emil some parts of southern NJ have that luxury
Try catching 9am local in Mumbai it will definitely kill you
average human Went Mumbai for a holiday.....fair to say I will never complain about traffic again.
Even if a nuke dropped in Mumbai there would still be too many people alive
The Dead Immortal *Tsar Bomba?*
The Dead Immortal cause mumbaikars are survivors 😏
average human tell them to stop making babies.
Driving to a train station is the most american thing ever
This is why I never leave my couch..
Dexter Morgan *this is why I'm a virgin
FTFY
Elias Games This in why I refrain from making jokes on the internet.
Also, studies say that 90% of the people who use the word 'virgin' as an insult are virgins themselves..
Zach Arbogast Dog piss but close..
Dexter Morgan Lol
I thought you worked as a blood-splatter analyst. :(
I've turned down jobs because of the commute. No regrets.
Okay this has told me nothing..
SAME
well you are on vox
beck if you walk or ride bike to work you better off
It was great that she presented both sides of the story but I believe a little more depth would have provided a more solid foundation for people to answer the question by themselves. Maybe a few more facts and their analysis, to support the second point
LOL same
I wouldn’t last a week with that kind of commute. I’d literally go hustle to do any other job.
Agreed
I would have never seen this video if I wasn’t on a train right now commuting to work!
I'm jealous of those cancelled train announcements. In Boston you find out the Rail is cancelled when it was supposed to show up an hour ago.
One time I was waiting for an express bus to get into Manhattan from the Bronx and it was supposed to pick me up at 5:00 PM, but it somehow got cancelled for no good reason, and I ended up having to wait another hour for the next bus. That next bus did arrive at 6:00 PM, but I almost lost a free transfer due to that happening, and that the bus route that I was riding only runs once every hour on weekdays in the off peak direction.
I commute an hour to school everyday. it's not easy...
Chris Choi damn, during my University time I had to commute 5 min by bike to the trainstation, then take a train that will take me another 45 min. Last but not least walk to the campus for another 15 min. Every school day.
Damn how do you put up with that lol
Lakshay Modi Because a lot of countries don't have dorms?
pksstr I didn't ask why but ok
i go to boarding school so I wake up and just have to walk down the stairs in the morning. And to get to class i have to walk for about 2-4 minutes and can come back to my bedroom in breaks and study periods :3
Don't know why but felt kinda good after seeing this. It is relieving to know that you're not the only one..
The only time I can find to pick up a book and read is my commute to college
Not if ur driving like me
Yeah, I'm fortunate to have a decent public transit system here. It lets me unwind a bit
wait... Don't you read in college?
I'm a CSIS student; most of it's lectures. And reading for information isn't really the same as reading for leisure or personal interests, to be frank :/
Oh I know :P I was just joking heh
I travel 30-40 minutes with bus to my school (Not counting the time it takes to get to the bus). Been doing it for 4 years. I've learned that you just gotta make the best of it. I usually listen to podcast, and that gives the travel meaning. When I don't travel I kind of miss it, as I don't get to listen to my daily podcast. (Shout-out to the Weekly Planet Podcast)
Asap Animation you are lucky as hell. My bus ride is like 2 hours
podcasts and books definitely help. also @ all student who commute: spotify offers $5 premium accounts to students who submit their acceptance letters
30 -40 mins is nothing
Asap Animation Yep audiobooks, music, and podcasts keep me sane during my commutes. I only like driving when I'm going somewhere like on a trip out of town, but driving to work or school sucks.
Asap Animation
"Stand clear of the closing doors, please". This one line triggered a Vietnam flashback in the back of my mind.
Do_Not_Disturb_The_Batz "Mind the gap between the train (awkward comma) and the platform."
Papera Di Gomma TRIGGERED
Lol I love that we’re ignoring the housing crisis in city centres that cause people to move further and further away from the downtown core 🙃
That's a nice dog she has.
Matt Kid ikr, cute doggo deserves more
Do you think it's a male or female?
Johnny the gender of the doggo does not determines worthiness of judgement therefore as long as the doggo is a good doggo it may sexually identify themselves as a doggo or anything else
That's a nice god she has
the average Commute door to door is 1 hour there and back
that means you wasted 2 hours a day with no pay $
say you're getting $16 an hour you have wasted $32 on your Commute plus you might spend $10 a day on travel that's $45 each day
so even if you got a crapy low paid low key local job at $ 12 an hour
then you could work an extra 2 hours a day because you don't have to travel plus remember the money you save on travel . might give you peace of mind. this doesn't apply to everyone of course, just saying ...
That's how I thought and took a job thats only 10 minutes away on foot or 3 minutes by bike instead of one that pays 2€ more but has a daily commute of 1h.
I'm gonna say people generally are living further from larger cities and where their jobs are because living in them is getting more expensive and small towns don't seem to have as many jobs that can support you financially the way you'd like unless you get a trade job and even then... That's my observation, at least.
Joe McShan -- Exactly my thought. Even the hood is getting so expensive here in Brooklyn. Bedstuy, williamsburg, crown heights and even East NY lol
חופשי פַּלֶשְׂתִינָה that's just what gentrification does. And wages haven't gone up for most people even though the cost of living does.
Americans are super commuters. They've gotten so good at separating housing and workplace that commute distance is farther than ever.
It's also incentivized, for instance I work as a contractor for a staffing firm and get paid $140 a day of non-taxed per diem if I live farther than 50 miles from the jobsite. My pay translates to about $30 an hour but when you factor in the the time for the 65 mile commute (one way) it works out to about $20 an hour. And after a month I feel physically drained and exhausted mostly because of the commute.
How about building more multi-story car parks instead of ripping out trees and still not having enough parking spaces?
But I guess both would be unnecessary if just the people living closest to the station would arrive by bike
Nicolas Blume It's cheaper to rip out trees than it is build a parking garage.
I thought Long Island is densely populated? Well, if they don't run out of land for more parking it will work, but sad for the trees...
And actually you have to walk way longer on parking lots than on multi-story car parks, there you can just take a lift (and a short walk)
Not to mention that building a parking structure requires blocking off the area for the garage plus some surrounding area needed for use during construction. Doing this exacerbates the parking issue for many months while construction finishes.
@Shispirina 👏👏👏👏👏
4:08 'Is my commute actually killing me?' Dog goes 'YYUPP!'
ValorousFogey Lol
so...14 hours per day spent on work, basically?
I used to live in Newcastle, Australia and worked in Sydney. 2-hour train commute each way and there was always people travelling to work on the 4:30am train. There are so many good jobs based out of the big cities but they're too expensive to live in. Employers really need to embrace working in an active online environment so we can all live healthy lives.
Her: Plops onto her bed without taking off the clothes she wore on public transportation
Me: "Nooo!" 😱
Am guilty
Aaaand that's how you get crabs.
I feel this comment so hard🤢🤢🤢
What? Eh? Huh? Are trains, buses etc. in the US cleaned so infrequently that people view the clothes they wore on public transport as an infection risk???
Robert Faber unfortunately... yes. Not specifically infection but certainly filth.
I can’t help that my so called, “high end” job is in an expensive area, but doesn’t pay me enough to live around there.
Ethan Davis people don't usually live where they work anyway. Some of those areas even if they have no people living there, are really more like business districts. It's more abnormal that people live there than don't.
Control what you can and position yourself. There are things you can help
Would have been nice to hear more of how moving to a place with great bicycle infrastructure decreases the amount of stressed and depressed people in your neighborhood while also increasing lifespans among those neighbors while very significantly decreasing commute costs
Life before 2020: Commute
2020: Hold my beer
I am horrified by how bad the commute is in the state. Ugh.
Toni Ros welcome to mumbai
Trust me, it is worse in so many countries.
It’s not great (that’s the MTA for you), but it’s still better than many other transit systems and worse than others....
Worse doesn't make bad acceptable.
Its negative for society to have bad transit system. If people have a trouble get to work they cant make money. And if the work aren't commutable too then few people will be able to work there. Both of those things make the economy worse which in the long run lowers the standard of living for everyone. (i dont wanna be that guy but it all in all it also widens the gap between low income and high income).
Im not saying all of the world problems can be solved with good transit systems. But in whole it is an investment that in the long run gives more back.
Toni Ros that’s the choice people make when they stay here.... I love the bad and the good about it and I think everyone who chooses to live here has an idea that it won’t be easy (unless mommy and daddy give you money of course)
It took me an hour to get to college where I lived and while I thoight I was gonna get a lot of reading/wrok done it never worked out that way. I ended up spending most of the time on my phone or worrying if I was gonna get to class on time. First, my kindle, books and notebooks all stay in my bag, so I would have to weep it out during the first train, put it back, weep it out again, all through 2 trains and a bus. Second of all, I couldn't always find a seat, and holding a kindle standing up while trying not to fall is pretyy annoying. As for audiobooks, I never got the time and concentration to actually download them and remember to play on the way, and considering how I was often thinking about what I had to do for the day, I probably wouldn't have gotten the best out of it anyway. Idk, maybe I'm not a commute person. I live 20 from college now, so I hope I won't oversleep as much next semester and will make a better use of my extra time
@ThoughtCrime I totally agree with this now, 2 years later
I hope that dog gets enough attention...