Regarding the DT forks, to increase the compression damping you can pull out the damping rod and weld up some of the holes. I did half of them on a similar vintage KDX 200 and that worked well.
Hey guys! Enjoyed this series almost as much as 5 MOH. Tip for Justin, add a spacer in your forks to compress the springs which will make them stronger. Start with a 1" spacer made from 3/4" steel pipe and go from there. Too much spacer will make the forks "top out". Tip for Ray and all drum brake guys. Disc brakes have been around for so long that most guys don't know how to make drum brakes work. New brake shoes must be "arced" to fit the drum and how you arc them depends on the type of brake you have, ie. single action or double action. Your brakes are all single action. When the brake is pulled on, a flat piece of metal between the shoes at one end rotates while the other end pivots. So the end of the shoe that moves toward the drum face hits first while the end of the shoe that pivots does not touch the drum face. The brake shoes must be sanded so that most of the shoes touch the drum. You will sand more at the end that moves than the pivot end. Sanding the shoe in an arc. Next, that flat piece of metal that rotates to push the shoes out must be flat against the shoes when the shoes are almost touching the drum, for maximum strength (before adjusting the cable).. If it is rotated when the brake lever is not being pulled, there is less leverage against the shoes and the bike won't stop no matter how hard you pull the lever. If that flat piece of metal is not flat against both shoes when the shoes are almost touching the drum, you can add some thickness to both sides of the rotating piece until it IS flat against both shoes. Double action shoes are almost the same, except the shoes are sanded from the center of the shoe to zero at each end. After you have "good" brakes, you'll find that your brakes will "fade" some while riding because the shoes are wearing and leaving dust inside the drum. And on dirt bikes, dirt gets in there too. This dust acts like microscopic ball bearings and reduces your braking ability. My favorite trick while I was out riding was to lay the bike on it's side and pour water into the drum and spin the tire. Lots of water. I had no brakes for the first couple of times I put the brakes on, but show stopper brakes afterward. I could easily do nose wheelies when I wanted to and guys that borrowed my bike would go over the bars quite often (hee, hee, hee). Hope this helps. Clyde
*GREAT JOB CHASE!* We all have our strengths and weaknesses.. You may not be the best mechanically inclined BUT... I have bough many of you alls parts and accessories due to YOUR reviews on them... :-) " Penny for your thoughts" HILAROUS!!
I have hardout ADD and can't even sit still long enough to watch my kid eat dinner but I sat here and watched at least an hour solid of you guys mucking around and it was awesome.
Oh man growing up riding and working on 60s and 70s bikes (in the 90s) on a zero dollar budget this brings back great memories! Every time you fire up one of the two strokes I can SMELL this video. Wish I were there wrenching too.
I am in the same boat. The crazy thing is, even with modern 2-stroke oil, the old DT smells like I remember the old bikes smelled (back in the 90's working on 70s bikes). it is the strangest thing! I love it! Brings back good memories for me too! - Justin
That Honda XL 350 is an awesome all around trail bike. It has low seat height, enough suspension for mild jumping, and a six speed for short distance on freeway.
I love the old 2 Strokes - my buddy Rob had this similar Suzuki TS 185 bike when we were in HS - don't under estimate the old 2 strokers.... The suzuki and the Yamaha 175 - or the YZ best bikes here!! Usually Its the Honda but - those Honda's are Clapped out... :) I love that the DT 175 High beam indicator still works!!
Back in 84' I raced a Honda xr200 my wife's bike! My cr250 was down, anyways back to story started race made it out 3 miles rear tire hits rock in sand wash busts out 6 six spokes sat rest of day waiting for sweep.
the dt fork : press down the fork (load the springs) while putting the caps back on (minimizing the density of trapped air above the oil level when the spring sprung back up with the caps on tight). i don't know wether or not he did it already, it was not shown in the video.
dude with the dt yam fork issue what u do to stiffen them up is throw some 1 and 1/14 spacer slugs in there find some dia aluminum solid stock and cut them at 1in and a half and start there and keep cutting them down to desire stiffness
My 86 xr600r runs stride for stride on the trails with my buddies new Ktm. Them old bikes were tanks ! We got an 85 xr350r that’s a beast as well . Both ran the timberline trail in Taylor park Colorado last summer .
Nice work! I like watching stuff where you just don't buy some bling, but actually put a bit of effort into it and possibly learn something new on the way. But you've got to step up a little on your mechanical skills. Its not that hard to for example to add some shimms on the forks. For smokers and hard enduro you want low down torque, so drop those cylinders down to lower timings and also improve squish (if the bikes have any). But anyway, a big thumbs up!
That Suzuki 250 is prehistoric so it's a no. The dual carb honda is out. The 78' DT175 is cool. The XT and XR 200 with Race Tech cartridge emulators and gold valve for the rear would kick but even in 2021 if there was no spending limit. My favorite is the 1980 YZ. Put modern suspenders on it also and it would also kit butt. Looks great too. As far as winning a tough enduro out of these bikes I'd pick the XR 200.
My 1980 xr80 is amazing in rocky difficult terrain until I reach a big hill. At least it does well going downhill. Better than my atc200 at handling iam 230 pounds.
@@rmatvmc the front forks need the tripple tree but the whole thing bolts on. the rear shock is longer but bolts in. I had the same model with those parts made a huge differance. Huge respect for your riding with it.!
I think I have owned every one of these over the years.. Put some air caps on the dt175 forks, thats about all you can do, that suspension sucks.. All those two stokes probably need new reed valves also..
You guys are great but it would be much more nicer if u guya let other rider do and show case some stuff from their poit of view and experience love the videos you gus make a strong support from Nepal 🇳🇵Keep the wheels rolling 😎✌️
Next time you guys ought to start the videos as you go, not after the race and everything because some of us that watch this channel and buy parts from you guys are vintage enthusiasts, I have spare parts for a couple of those bikes. At the least a rear shocks for the TT350
Check out the full Extreme Enduro $500 Motorcycle Challenge Playlist here:
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This would be one hell of a Netflix series!
You know what would be even better? If they posted it on TH-cam for free!!...
@@devinkokenge8801 they do I'm watching it for free
Screw Netflix and their child porn.
@@mrbigg7255 im with you bro
Hell ya
Glad you post them all at once made sunday more fun
100 percent agree!
Yesssss, last time you made the series I was so sad when it ended! Super excited 😁
Justins face is priceless when Charles is talking about his compression XD
God these bikes bring back memories being a kid in the 70's and 80's!
I wish I grew up then
Regarding the DT forks, to increase the compression damping you can pull out the damping rod and weld up some of the holes. I did half of them on a similar vintage KDX 200 and that worked well.
Love this series! Excellent way to spend labor day.
Hey guys! Enjoyed this series almost as much as 5 MOH.
Tip for Justin, add a spacer in your forks to compress the springs which will make them stronger. Start with a 1" spacer made from 3/4" steel pipe and go from there. Too much spacer will make the forks "top out".
Tip for Ray and all drum brake guys. Disc brakes have been around for so long that most guys don't know how to make drum brakes work. New brake shoes must be "arced" to fit the drum and how you arc them depends on the type of brake you have, ie. single action or double action. Your brakes are all single action. When the brake is pulled on, a flat piece of metal between the shoes at one end rotates while the other end pivots. So the end of the shoe that moves toward the drum face hits first while the end of the shoe that pivots does not touch the drum face. The brake shoes must be sanded so that most of the shoes touch the drum. You will sand more at the end that moves than the pivot end. Sanding the shoe in an arc. Next, that flat piece of metal that rotates to push the shoes out must be flat against the shoes when the shoes are almost touching the drum, for maximum strength (before adjusting the cable).. If it is rotated when the brake lever is not being pulled, there is less leverage against the shoes and the bike won't stop no matter how hard you pull the lever. If that flat piece of metal is not flat against both shoes when the shoes are almost touching the drum, you can add some thickness to both sides of the rotating piece until it IS flat against both shoes. Double action shoes are almost the same, except the shoes are sanded from the center of the shoe to zero at each end. After you have "good" brakes, you'll find that your brakes will "fade" some while riding because the shoes are wearing and leaving dust inside the drum. And on dirt bikes, dirt gets in there too. This dust acts like microscopic ball bearings and reduces your braking ability. My favorite trick while I was out riding was to lay the bike on it's side and pour water into the drum and spin the tire. Lots of water. I had no brakes for the first couple of times I put the brakes on, but show stopper brakes afterward. I could easily do nose wheelies when I wanted to and guys that borrowed my bike would go over the bars quite often (hee, hee, hee). Hope this helps.
Clyde
You guys are absolutely genius! All of you! Props to the video team!
Thanks. We have a crazy talented video group. Josh and Kobee put this one together. - Justin
*GREAT JOB CHASE!* We all have our strengths and weaknesses.. You may not be the best mechanically inclined BUT... I have bough many of you alls parts and accessories due to YOUR reviews on them... :-)
" Penny for your thoughts" HILAROUS!!
So excited that this series has continued!
Chase: *calls a screw a bolt*
Chase: keep the hate light
You aren't making this easy.
I'm trying my best haha. Sometimes you just have to own it! - Chase
I have hardout ADD and can't even sit still long enough to watch my kid eat dinner but I sat here and watched at least an hour solid of you guys mucking around and it was awesome.
Spread these episodes!!!
Make more people see this so these guys can keep making stuff like this.
The challenges are awesome! :D
Oh man growing up riding and working on 60s and 70s bikes (in the 90s) on a zero dollar budget this brings back great memories! Every time you fire up one of the two strokes I can SMELL this video. Wish I were there wrenching too.
I am in the same boat. The crazy thing is, even with modern 2-stroke oil, the old DT smells like I remember the old bikes smelled (back in the 90's working on 70s bikes). it is the strangest thing! I love it! Brings back good memories for me too! - Justin
OMG they posted 4 episodes!
You guys are so great you upload it all at once so you don't have to wait months, love the content keep it up 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
this is my favourite TH-cam series its litteraly my weekends in a series
So awsome! I love the camaraderie and competition that builds as you all build the bikes.
Best series ever... really enjoying these!
Stock tires on that XL , she’s worthy of a full resto. Man I’d love to be on this show, me and my IT’s lol
The first thing I did with my new yt account is subscribed you guys are the best, keep it up👍👍
You guys are the best- these videos are inspiring and a right proper blast. I love the camaraderie.
What's amazing is most of these bikes probably have never been rebuilt and are still running
I love that Wes' kickstarter slaps his head when it releases thats awesome
Gotta love old bikes. It's an experience to ride! - Wes
You guys look like one heck of a company to work for! Love the series 👍🏼
Great content boys! Happy to see this format back! Keep it coming, we're loving it!
This new challenge is awesome, thank you for going through this for us !!
This looks like so much fun!!!
This series is awesome!!!!
Omg, “never ridden a bike with a carburettor, Who else feels really old. Say hi to two stroke.
Yep, feel old now..
My first bike was a 2002 ttr 125 so it had a carburetor
"Penny for your thoughts" killed me
Holy shit, I thought you guys gonna stretch the series out a little bit
i'm glad they didn't lol watch em all at once
binge watch these babies! We wanted everyone to be able to enjoy all 6 episodes with NO waiting! Cheers! - Wes
@@rmatvmc finished it the day you guys uploaded it. Thx for the great content, can't wait for the next one!
@@rmatvmc That's the way to do it
OMG they posted 4 episodes!
That's a mindblower that Chase does not have much experience with carbs. I have to say I'm rooting for you. The Suzuki 250 is a solid machine.
Thanks, Christopher! It had it's ups and downs but overall I have a blast! - Chase
That Honda XL 350 is an awesome all around trail bike. It has low seat height, enough suspension for mild jumping, and a six speed for short distance on freeway.
I'm loving these new videos!! :)
I love the old 2 Strokes - my buddy Rob had this similar Suzuki TS 185 bike when we were in HS - don't under estimate the old 2 strokers.... The suzuki and the Yamaha 175 - or the YZ best bikes here!! Usually Its the Honda but - those Honda's are Clapped out... :)
I love that the DT 175 High beam indicator still works!!
Heck yeah! Check out the pic of my 1974 Suzuki TC185 in episode 3. - Justin
First bike I owned in the late 80’s was a TS 185, loved that bike......love from the Uk 🇬🇧 👊🏻, great channel by the way
This is what motorcycling is all about to me. :) All -in-one, cheap bikes, that you just keep running on a shoe-string budget
Thanks guys 👍
Yamaha DT owners yelling 146cc! Everywhere. So glad you guys are doing another challenge.
That trick for holding the brakes down to align drums is cool, almost like mtb disk brake aligning. Should have tried that on my pit bike
Justin seems like such a nice guy! My friends would break shit for a laugh not actually help fix it hahaha!
rocky mountains, a buncha rocks, and some atvs/ MC's.....sounds about right
Gotta love it! - Wes
I had the 86 Yamaha TT350 also. Sold it in 2019 and kinda regret that now. Loved riding it.
Back in 84' I raced a Honda xr200 my wife's bike! My cr250 was down, anyways back to story started race made it out 3 miles rear tire hits rock in sand wash busts out 6 six spokes sat rest of day waiting for sweep.
the dt fork : press down the fork (load the springs) while putting the caps back on (minimizing the density of trapped air above the oil level when the spring sprung back up with the caps on tight). i don't know wether or not he did it already, it was not shown in the video.
"ready for Supercross"
:'D
dude with the dt yam fork issue what u do to stiffen them up is throw some 1 and 1/14 spacer slugs in there find some dia aluminum solid stock and cut them at 1in and a half and start there and keep cutting them down to desire stiffness
Yall should make a series called 'Chase Learns to Wrench" where Justin and some of the other guys teach Chase how to do bike maintenance and repair
Not a bad idea - Chase
In the 175 instead of adding oil try adding a 1 or 2mm spacer on top of the spring, that way you Will have More preload AND stiffen the forks a bit
Looks like lots of fun over there.
My 86 xr600r runs stride for stride on the trails with my buddies new Ktm. Them old bikes were tanks ! We got an 85 xr350r that’s a beast as well . Both ran the timberline trail in Taylor park Colorado last summer .
Somehow, someway, something is telling me to not trust this claim! ☝🏻 ha ha ha stride for stride? - Wes
@@rmatvmc I got videos and witnesses . My bike is a beast . Y’all are welcome to feature it any time ! Dual carbs 600cc no electric start .
0:07 you can tell from his face he immediately regretted doing that
LOL Probably my FAVORITE part of the WHOLE series! ha ha ha! So funny! - Wes
Use a large hollow bar where that footpeg will sit inside. Have someone hold the bike and bend it back into position slowly.
I think people who have only ridden modern bikesget an appreciation for them once they ride something like these bikes
Chase, you're doing fine! We can't have all the same skills, but you're doing the best you can, that's great! Keep it up!
Thanks, Rui! I definitely got more comfortable the more I rode the bike. - Chase
That YZ125 is so cool
Thanks! @TheMXboys
i wish my shop was like this. i feel like i could really shine if i could get my dam shop clean
I'm lovin it guys, I just live for this Sh*t
Justin's face at 10.40 😂😂😂
Love the dt 175 what a good looking bike👍
It is a pretty classic bike 🤘🏻 - Wes
It should be a Netflix series
10:40 lmao that look
Carbs are cool!!
Dude, the yz125 is bad ass. That would be an expensive bike in New England.
That vintage suzuki is so nice! I feel bad it's going to get so beat up.
Yeah, we were too actually. Chase wasn't real nice to it - Justin
The Savage is still in one piece and ready for the next challenge! She takes a lickin and keeps on tickin. - Chase
@@rmatvmc they built those old bikes to take a beating that's for sure!
LETS GO!
26:11 That almost sounded like the jumpscare in five nights at freddies😂
johnny lee yeah 😂
Nice work! I like watching stuff where you just don't buy some bling, but actually put a bit of effort into it and possibly learn something new on the way. But you've got to step up a little on your mechanical skills. Its not that hard to for example to add some shimms on the forks. For smokers and hard enduro you want low down torque, so drop those cylinders down to lower timings and also improve squish (if the bikes have any). But anyway, a big thumbs up!
Thanks for the tips!
I want another series but one thats more than 500 each
dude with the head off true that head up by hand sanding it true just dont go past the profile start with 320 got to 600 on glass or on granite
Amazing!!
I need Justin to come work on my bike!
Gerard Butler will be back as Mike Banning in the fourth 'Has Fallen' movie!
Ultrasonic cleaner for a lot of the parts
☝🏻 It's like a magic cupboard 😂 - Wes
That Suzuki 250 is prehistoric so it's a no. The dual carb honda is out. The 78' DT175 is cool. The XT and XR 200 with Race Tech cartridge emulators and gold valve for the rear would kick but even in 2021 if there was no spending limit. My favorite is the 1980 YZ. Put modern suspenders on it also and it would also kit butt. Looks great too. As far as winning a tough enduro out of these bikes I'd pick the XR 200.
This is crazy I cant find a running bike for under 1000 bucks Ive been looking all summer,they got theirs for 500 hundo humm.
Bikes with no power are usually very reliable. My xr80 is a tank but doesn't like giant hills with 230 pounds on it. Always runs though
wow awsome show
Love watching you guys put all this time and effort in you POS. LOL
That's freakin hilarious
The TS is such a dog
Perfect
On that dt
Try like 110 mm
It won't cavitate so badly
Hence the feeling of hydro lock
Need a $2000 adventure challenge
The guys are literally out on a $1000 adventure ride right now...Stay tuned!!!!!!
@@rmatvmc what!!! Lmao perfect!
Not hard to weld up some cool comfy big foot pegs if your existing pegs are steel
Justin came in clutch with the JD Special custom footpeg extensions - Wes
My 1980 xr80 is amazing in rocky difficult terrain until I reach a big hill. At least it does well going downhill. Better than my atc200 at handling iam 230 pounds.
Add a spring spacer.
to the guy with the DT175 find a doner RT180 and steal the rear shock and forks major upgrade and you can go disk brake ont he front then too.
Thanks for the tip! - Justin
@@rmatvmc the front forks need the tripple tree but the whole thing bolts on. the rear shock is longer but bolts in. I had the same model with those parts made a huge differance. Huge respect for your riding with it.!
I think I have owned every one of these over the years.. Put some air caps on the dt175 forks, thats about all you can do, that suspension sucks.. All those two stokes probably need new reed valves also..
I don't think the TS250 even has reeds!! haha! - Justin
Helmets, guys! Set a good example for all the 12 year olds watching your channel!
Penny for your thoughts
Are you guys taking applications? I would love to work in a place like this!!!
Is that the project farm guy
watch the end of episode 6 ;) - Justin
You guys are great but it would be much more nicer if u guya let other rider do and show case some stuff from their poit of view and experience love the videos you gus make a strong support from Nepal 🇳🇵Keep the wheels rolling 😎✌️
Guessing on oil height: is there not a spec in the manual for it?
14:46 that's one easy starting machine
The muffler plug was NOT PLANNED! lol - Wes
00:54 seconds... a beautiful sight.
Next time you guys ought to start the videos as you go, not after the race and everything because some of us that watch this channel and buy parts from you guys are vintage enthusiasts, I have spare parts for a couple of those bikes. At the least a rear shocks for the TT350
Is that the guy from projectfarm
You need to watch the outro on episode 6! _ Justin
Do 1000 dollar budget for Baja 1000
Now THAT is a challenge! We'll keep it in mind - Wes
That would make the best youtube series ever.
You guys are turning those bikes into full on Works machines and" Chance" has a good chance of dieing on that Suzuki.
Wait! Did Chance ride a Suzuki? 🤔 - Wes