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I absolutely hate it that documentary filmmakers feel that they have to continually pump the drama and tension!!! I watch documentaries to learn, not for drama.
Agreed. I theorize they think folks are dumb, dull-minded or easily distracted thus they need to be emotionally evoked and stimulated. Perhaps also they've been watching a lot of amateur YT vids, 'cus the vast majority of these creators can't seem to make any kind of vid without dubbing in foreground or background music.
@@xander1756, music has always been a part of documentaries. That's not the point. The point is all of the manufactured and pointless drama that is so prevalent in documentaries these days.
Now you realize the enormous responsibility that rests with these teams to see the job done right or else it would be a disaster and you get no second chance! Brilliant execution and a well-deserved success. Loved this documentary
I think that is one of the best Blow Down Documentaries ever!!! I have watched and marvelled over a good number of them!!! CDI teams are just amazing!!! Super professional and the ability to adapt to specific circumstances is their trademark in my opinion!!! Just amazing!!!
That was awesome love the cameras during the explosion and during hitting bottom and the ship looks so beautiful underwater makes me want to be a diver to see stuff like this under water
@@voornaam3191 Honda started whooping Americas as in the 70-80s. I'm a Ford fan my self, cant really beat them but those damn honda's wont fucking die. I've got an 85 Accord with 330k miles..Still runs great
@@frankcastle4715 It's all about trade tarifs. Those Americans have that stupid president now. Watch what happens, normal international trading countries are strangled, with love. Yeah right, if you never buy the HIGH quality cars from.the rest of the world, you'll start thinking American cars are better. You just select what is coming to the US. I can tell you, that is nothing to worry about. Would you import cars that would get the Anerican car companied in trouble? Good quality and relatively cheap? No, shut the borders! Most Americans have literally no idea about the rest of the world. It's all communists! Yeah, those leaders are, the common people have nothing else to vote for. Just like that horrible "Trump or the lady" dilemma. No real choice, huh? You can't even vote yourself, why is there no presidential election for the common people? Why don't you get rid of that British voting system? The whole world can tell you: a district system is just not fair. And what do the Americans against that error? Not enough. Yeah, your cars are better. The Lambo's and the Toyota's you mean. And how about that compression ignition system that Mazda developed fitst? That's a gasoline engine that switches over to the thing a diesel does: knocking. But this time, it's controlled knocking. Why? The diesel cycle is more fuel efficient than the gasoline cycle. Driving on the highway or the interstate, when you don't need much power, the system goes into dieseling mode, saving some fuel. Haven't seen the numbers, but it must save enough money each year, just by doing something very smart, when you don't climb hills or accelarate all the time. Most people won't notice what's going on, it's just a very smart gas engine. And that means: not just a small and very good engine, no, a revolutionary design. It is really the best of two worlds: main advantage of the diesel engine, appled in a gasoline engine. I must give you Americans credit for the variable compression engine. AMG has designed that, a small turbo engine that uses high compression when the turbo pressure is low (it runs like a small sporty non-turbo) and when you push the gas and the turbo kicks in, you get a lower compression. That's done to avoid knocking, and the problem is, you would lose a lot of power and fuel efficiency driving more modestly, if that compression would be constant. Variable compression engines have more moving parts, it's not cheap. But the idea is brilliant, big engines normally cost you far more fuel, part of the deal. Now you really save some money, when you don't floor it for a while, and you still have that horsepower available, just in case. In short: great concept.
Sad always to see the death of a ship, but hopefully she will be a wonderful haven for sealife, and fun for sports divers for many decades to come. Another great job by the folks of CDI
Look at it this way. She served us well in war and peace. Even when her body rusts into the sand, her image will remain in coral and her spirit in thought.
Bravi complimenti! Invece di smantellare e reciclare, avete continuato ad inquinare il mare con tutta quella ruggine. Complimenti di nuovo siete degli scienziati senza voto.
Its for a man made reef and probably for tourist scuba divers. What i don't understand is why its so hard to sink, its in the middle of the ocean, its not like anyone is gonna get hurt so just fill it up with way too many explosives and let her rip. Who needs maths and engineering when you have explosives.
@@lachlanhatcher9108 bro.. too many explosives and debris flies for miles.. too few and it wont sink.. shut up man. Engineering is used in everything we use in life, down to the most basic items.
This video is just full of unanswered questions. Granted I'm no demolition expert but as a mechanical systems engineer, I know a thing or two about physics and what doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me is why they would place the shape charges inside the hull? Doing that makes the explosive force work against the water pressure from the outside and since water can't be compressed, it stands to reason that a shape charge would be much more efficient if placed outside the hull blowing inward. Navy divers during WW2 that later became the now famous Navy Seals were trained in using shape charges on the outside of the hull of enemy vessels to sink them. Okay, those divers didn't have to worry about creating a useless artificial reef but still, this way of sinking the bloody thing doesn't make much sense unless I'm missing something here
My uneducated guess? To keep the chances of flying debris hitting someone down. Your physics is spot-on, the charges WOULD have been more effective on the outside.... if the hull was in open-air. When out of water, you can use water to "tamp" the blast and increase the effectiveness of a shaped charge. For example, look at these: explosives.net/product/gatecrasher/ . HOWEVER... fully submerged charges are much LESS effective when they're completely submerged. I found this Master's Thesis on the subject: scholarsmine.mst.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=8304&context=masters_theses . The short answer: To be most effective, the shaped charge needs to be in a compressible medium, or be able to expand into one in order to create the cutting "blade" of molten metal. Which is why the charges were inside, vs. outside.
Efficiency is immaterial. There is more than enough power available. It is much easier for people to work inside the ship. Using divers to do the work underwater is not necessary.
Simple answers. Ww2 navy divers were on the outside of the ship anyway, no kidding. Why would these guys wanna do what ww2 navy divers did when they can work from the comfort and safety of the inside. They need to precisely place and time delay the explosions within seconds so the ship sinks smartly. And sit upright in the target zone.
...And they translated "Keep clear" sign (obviously meaning "Keep the passage unobstructed", Russian: "Держите проход свободным" or "Проход не загромождать") as "Храните чистым (ясным)" ("Store clean"). :facepalm: @38:30
41:16 damn i love that kind of metallic echo sound... though I'm not sure why ship can't roll over?.. as long as it lands in it's designated spot, why does it matter if it's up right, sideways, or even upside down?
As it is easier and safer for divers to navigate inside of if its upright. And secondly the hull is the strongest part so they want that to hit the bottom. And the top sides are probably better to look at.
The cost of restoring a ship of that size would be high to say the least. Not to mention the ship may just be outdated in general, meaning restoring it would just be a waste of money. Besides the more Coral reefs in the ocean, the better.
The Luazos (sp?) are badasses in demolition. They tried to stay mum on 9/11 but they knew by the way 3 buildings came down in their own footprint that jet fuel from 2 planes did not bring down 3 buildings.
Com certeza vocês estão puluido o Grande mar que Deus fez. Que vocês fiquem muito bem certo que Deus vai cobrar isso de vocês e de seus mandante. Deus e a natureza vai dá grande resposta pra todos os que destrói a natureza.
For the ballasting tanks that were giving them a problem, why couldn't they just wait till sink day, tow it out, and then fill them up when they got to the place where it would go BOOM?
Actually a satellite tracking and space communications relay ship. I think this old lady was used as a communications ship for the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs as well as for military satellites. Her principal use initially was as a mobile tracking station for Navy and Air Force long range ballistic missile tests.
By the time the water got to the other compartments the ship would have sunken improperly. They wanted it to sink upright. Uf they only let water in through the engine room the ship would be unstable and not sink the way they needed it too. Hence all the extrs holes and explosives
*meanwhile while the man is setting up his deotonator, you see an old rusted out A6M Zero with a man screaming BANZAAAAAAAAI as it crashes into the dead ship*
yep I used to love watching that film every Halloween scares the shit with those alien like cyber creatures. But was the ship originally Russian I never seen ships like that in the US at till now. Thought this ship was a Russian vessel because the first time I saw this ship was from that movie.
There is a lot of dangerous confined space work here, and I don't see any permits or rescue crews. Especially at 32:32, there are strict regulations about flammable/hazardous materials in confined space.
You hear the oceans are rising, some believe it's the melting ice at the poles which with studies of ice cores that it's the earth goes through cycles, but if this continues of dumping crap like this you may get that theory which hadn't happen yet.
Literaly the ´´Vandenberg´´ translated in it´s Dutch Originated name means; ´´from the mountain´´. So from the mountain to the bottom sounds a bit ironic.
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Yes i do
Ya sure ya hooo
yes i love it how did you do that that was awsome are you army make a vid of mining
is that a small nuke
Uh@@34kwrldd nnn0
I absolutely hate it that documentary filmmakers feel that they have to continually pump the drama and tension!!! I watch documentaries to learn, not for drama.
Agreed. I theorize they think folks are dumb, dull-minded or easily distracted thus they need to be emotionally evoked and stimulated.
Perhaps also they've been watching a lot of amateur YT vids, 'cus the vast majority of these creators can't seem to make any kind of vid without dubbing in foreground or background music.
Once I that is what kind of documentary it is I just fast forward all the way to the end.
no you don't. you also watch them for drama because subconsciously drama makes them more appealing
I've got an update. I've been watching B&W docos from the 30s, 40s and 50s.
Musical accompanyment isn't a new fad, it's been used for decades.
@@xander1756, music has always been a part of documentaries. That's not the point. The point is all of the manufactured and pointless drama that is so prevalent in documentaries these days.
Now you realize the enormous responsibility that rests with these teams to see the job done right or else it would be a disaster and you get no second chance! Brilliant execution and a well-deserved success. Loved this documentary
I think that is one of the best Blow Down Documentaries ever!!! I have watched and marvelled over a good number of them!!!
CDI teams are just amazing!!! Super professional and the ability to adapt to specific circumstances is their trademark in my opinion!!! Just amazing!!!
American documentary:- explain everything 10 times, increase hype, more hype, one final recap.
TOOOOOO much
That was awesome love the cameras during the explosion and during hitting bottom and the ship looks so beautiful underwater makes me want to be a diver to see stuff like this under water
For some reason, I kept getting that sinking feeling, that all was going to work perfectly!
What you're looking for is @41:00
The rest is fun lead-up and background, but that timestamp is why you clicked.
thank you kind man
Good lad
i was looking for your comment haha i knew there will be one .. thanks man
I'm pretty sure we clicked a documentary to watch the documentary
No
I love how this happened 10 years ago but there uploading it now
They're ***
LOL battle for every hole sounds like me with my wife
😂🤣fucking savage 😂
Listen man, thats cool and all, but... r/ihavesex
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Hahaha Hahaha
@J F a good one 👍🤣🤣
LMAO😂, or she can go the way of her sister, and get shipped over to Japan and become Toyota’s! Too funny
Yes, the American car industry got ass kicked by Toyota! They deserve it! That's so funny. Nice you like that, too!
@@voornaam3191 Honda started whooping Americas as in the 70-80s. I'm a Ford fan my self, cant really beat them but those damn honda's wont fucking die. I've got an 85 Accord with 330k miles..Still runs great
Lol Yep
@@voornaam3191 american cars are better quality, but imports are cheaper in all manners.
@@frankcastle4715 It's all about trade tarifs. Those Americans have that stupid president now. Watch what happens, normal international trading countries are strangled, with love. Yeah right, if you never buy the HIGH quality cars from.the rest of the world, you'll start thinking American cars are better. You just select what is coming to the US. I can tell you, that is nothing to worry about. Would you import cars that would get the Anerican car companied in trouble? Good quality and relatively cheap? No, shut the borders! Most Americans have literally no idea about the rest of the world. It's all communists! Yeah, those leaders are, the common people have nothing else to vote for. Just like that horrible "Trump or the lady" dilemma. No real choice, huh? You can't even vote yourself, why is there no presidential election for the common people? Why don't you get rid of that British voting system? The whole world can tell you: a district system is just not fair. And what do the Americans against that error? Not enough. Yeah, your cars are better. The Lambo's and the Toyota's you mean.
And how about that compression ignition system that Mazda developed fitst? That's a gasoline engine that switches over to the thing a diesel does: knocking. But this time, it's controlled knocking. Why? The diesel cycle is more fuel efficient than the gasoline cycle. Driving on the highway or the interstate, when you don't need much power, the system goes into dieseling mode, saving some fuel. Haven't seen the numbers, but it must save enough money each year, just by doing something very smart, when you don't climb hills or accelarate all the time. Most people won't notice what's going on, it's just a very smart gas engine. And that means: not just a small and very good engine, no, a revolutionary design. It is really the best of two worlds: main advantage of the diesel engine, appled in a gasoline engine. I must give you Americans credit for the variable compression engine. AMG has designed that, a small turbo engine that uses high compression when the turbo pressure is low (it runs like a small sporty non-turbo) and when you push the gas and the turbo kicks in, you get a lower compression. That's done to avoid knocking, and the problem is, you would lose a lot of power and fuel efficiency driving more modestly, if that compression would be constant. Variable compression engines have more moving parts, it's not cheap. But the idea is brilliant, big engines normally cost you far more fuel, part of the deal. Now you really save some money, when you don't floor it for a while, and you still have that horsepower available, just in case. In short: great concept.
Watching the air burst out and push the water aside because of the pressure was just awesome.
Sad always to see the death of a ship, but hopefully she will be a wonderful haven for sealife, and fun for sports divers for many decades to come. Another great job by the folks of CDI
Look at it this way. She served us well in war and peace. Even when her body rusts into the sand, her image will remain in coral and her spirit in thought.
@@AngryHybridApe Nice thought that.....
I enjoy the story but I can live without the drama queen.
Bravi complimenti! Invece di smantellare e reciclare, avete continuato ad inquinare il mare con tutta quella ruggine. Complimenti di nuovo siete degli scienziati senza voto.
When humans plan to sink unsinkable ships: ship: *no I dont wanna!*
When humans don't want unsinkable ships to sink: ship: *Ay we going down mates*
When humans don't want unsinkable ships to sink: ship: oh, hello iceberg
@@rainthefurry7961 ship:lemme give you pet
Sinking a ship is a piece of cake, keeping them afloat is the harder part
I don’t understand why they want to sink a abandoned unsinkable ship
Its for a man made reef and probably for tourist scuba divers. What i don't understand is why its so hard to sink, its in the middle of the ocean, its not like anyone is gonna get hurt so just fill it up with way too many explosives and let her rip. Who needs maths and engineering when you have explosives.
Lachlan Hatcher risks to sea life
They could just give me the ship..
@@lachlanhatcher9108 bro.. too many explosives and debris flies for miles.. too few and it wont sink.. shut up man. Engineering is used in everything we use in life, down to the most basic items.
To make artificial reefs maybe
I'm pretty sure you could edit this down to 3 minutes without losing any footage.
I hate to seeing him getting dirty 😂 its funny how they put a lot of drama when telling the story,cool video thanks for sharing
I've never seen one go down this quick before 😳, and I've watched a lot of these.
Mona J I think there was a little fiddling with the film speed as the ship sank somewhere near the speed of sound. Still very interesting.
Beautiful job guys, I'll be diving there one day soon.
I love how the documentary makes it sound like 3mm either way is a small margin
More ads, please. Far too much documentary here.
I would say more people need to watch documentaries
I’m randomly watching this at 1 am sooooooo yes
The Crews certainly earn their Money because that can't be an easy Job but I would think it is a rewarding job nonetheless 👍
I love the comment section here we have armchair demolition experts and marine biologists and some naval research all rolled into one.lol
You know it, the experts always come to the comment section...haha
That is the joy of documentaries on TH-cam.
Im and armchair expert and I approve of these comments!
Excellent documentary. Thank you.
a great piece of work and very interesting vid!
Thank you for your service, ma'am. R.I.P. ❤🇺🇸
I forgot that in 2009 they used those Google Maps shots of the exterior in documentaries.
Ah, Key West... I remember those days when I sae this ship docked, being prepared for sinking.
This video is just full of unanswered questions. Granted I'm no demolition expert but as a mechanical systems engineer, I know a thing or two about physics and what doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me is why they would place the shape charges inside the hull? Doing that makes the explosive force work against the water pressure from the outside and since water can't be compressed, it stands to reason that a shape charge would be much more efficient if placed outside the hull blowing inward. Navy divers during WW2 that later became the now famous Navy Seals were trained in using shape charges on the outside of the hull of enemy vessels to sink them. Okay, those divers didn't have to worry about creating a useless artificial reef but still, this way of sinking the bloody thing doesn't make much sense unless I'm missing something here
My uneducated guess? To keep the chances of flying debris hitting someone down. Your physics is spot-on, the charges WOULD have been more effective on the outside.... if the hull was in open-air. When out of water, you can use water to "tamp" the blast and increase the effectiveness of a shaped charge. For example, look at these: explosives.net/product/gatecrasher/ . HOWEVER... fully submerged charges are much LESS effective when they're completely submerged. I found this Master's Thesis on the subject: scholarsmine.mst.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=8304&context=masters_theses . The short answer: To be most effective, the shaped charge needs to be in a compressible medium, or be able to expand into one in order to create the cutting "blade" of molten metal. Which is why the charges were inside, vs. outside.
Efficiency is immaterial. There is more than enough power available. It is much easier for people to work inside the ship. Using divers to do the work underwater is not necessary.
Simple answers.
Ww2 navy divers were on the outside of the ship anyway, no kidding.
Why would these guys wanna do what ww2 navy divers did when they can work from the comfort and safety of the inside.
They need to precisely place and time delay the explosions within seconds so the ship sinks smartly. And sit upright in the target zone.
Well that was a blast.
Magnificent!
Good dives, good memories.
people making the ship: "We're gonna make a ship that shall never sink"
reef makers: *"im about to end this mans whole career"*
That's what they said about the Titanic, except explosives were not needed to sink that!
@@teacfan1080 it wasnt the builders or designers that said that about the titanic. It was only the newspapers.
41:06 is what you’re here for.
thaaaank yooouuuuu
This ship was used in the movie Virus as a Russian spy ship.
It was an awesome movie !
Ah, that explains why the ship has "Akademik Vladislav Volkov" name (written in Russian) on port side...
...And they translated "Keep clear" sign (obviously meaning "Keep the passage unobstructed", Russian: "Держите проход свободным" or "Проход не загромождать") as "Храните чистым (ясным)" ("Store clean"). :facepalm:
@38:30
I thought that ship looked familiar from the movie virus. Totally throwback movie from my teenage years
I enjoy seeing these thanks
pretty cool that this is the ship used in the movie 'Virus'
Со шнат? Стурид мову!
41:16 damn i love that kind of metallic echo sound... though I'm not sure why ship can't roll over?.. as long as it lands in it's designated spot, why does it matter if it's up right, sideways, or even upside down?
As it is easier and safer for divers to navigate inside of if its upright. And secondly the hull is the strongest part so they want that to hit the bottom. And the top sides are probably better to look at.
Nice job
Is such a great ship and dive site
oiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii amigo moro no brasil hj é 27/8/2021 lindo trabalho em equipe parabéns meu like
So that’s why Toyota are built like tanks
i don't know what is beautiful and fun to sink a boat. Destroy won't never be a challenge just idiocy.
I love sinking ships like in floating sandbox so this is like a dream come true
im in the wrong industry. That looks like fun.
I remember seeing this ship in the 1999 movie Virus. I still get nightmares about that film.
it would be nice to see again in 5 years , I wonder how deep it is .
If I'm not mistaken this episode was filmed like 10 years ago, so you can probably look it up online
40:54 The explosion
41:16 Starts sinking
41:52 Goes completely underwater
42:17 Explanation
44:13 sinking to bottom
45:12 on bottom
This is like the history channel when the history channel was good
BEAUTIFUL SITE
“I think we gotta miss fire”
“The sound of the explosion reveals nothing”
Lmao
It's always the stern of the ships that last the longest!
It's a waste of metal, they should have restored it.
The cost of restoring a ship of that size would be high to say the least.
Not to mention the ship may just be outdated in general, meaning restoring it would just be a waste of money.
Besides the more Coral reefs in the ocean, the better.
No. Nickelback is a waste of metal.. this should have been scrapped.
The Luazos (sp?) are badasses in demolition. They tried to stay mum on 9/11 but they knew by the way 3 buildings came down in their own footprint that jet fuel from 2 planes did not bring down 3 buildings.
The unsinkable is sinkable after all.....RIP !.
Com certeza vocês estão puluido o Grande mar que Deus fez.
Que vocês fiquem muito bem certo que Deus vai cobrar isso de vocês e de seus mandante.
Deus e a natureza vai dá grande resposta pra todos os que destrói a natureza.
I knew I'd seen this ship before. It's in the movie "Virus". 11:45
Thats cool
Kind of sad though....very annoing presentation,, lot's of drama
It would be useful if the documentary release year was mentioned
2009.
1912
This is why its cheaper to beach these giant boats in India to be scrapped.
They was trying to start a reef.....
Very cool!
For the ballasting tanks that were giving them a problem, why couldn't they just wait till sink day, tow it out, and then fill them up when they got to the place where it would go BOOM?
Sweet! A spy ship!
Actually a satellite tracking and space communications relay ship. I think this old lady was used as a communications ship for the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs as well as for military satellites. Her principal use initially was as a mobile tracking station for Navy and Air Force long range ballistic missile tests.
@@robertf3479 Sweet!
Dam thats scary how fast it sank
Ow wow, that tub went down fast
*Titanic has left the chat*
Why didn't they just open a couple of sea intake valves in the engine room?
because it wouldnt sink the ship evenly if all the water just came from the engine room
@@northwaymx6219 but it would eventually find it's way through the bilges.
By the time the water got to the other compartments the ship would have sunken improperly. They wanted it to sink upright. Uf they only let water in through the engine room the ship would be unstable and not sink the way they needed it too. Hence all the extrs holes and explosives
I loved that movie
Imagine looking down and the anchor chain if wrapped around your leg, *FOCK.*
I woulda taken that ship. Not sure why. But no body ask me. I woulda used it for research. Not sure what tho. But no body ask me.
what would you research
Why would you take the ship? What would you research?
I would research explosives vs ship hulls
I would have sold it for scrap metal and made millions
You wouldn't be able to take it anywhere. Imagine the fuel bill.
It would cost a fortune just to cut it up.
The custom attachment makes me think he’s illegally making deadly weapons
Good afternoon from SE Louisiana 11 Aug 21.
Wasnt that the same ship used in the movie “virus”? I think thats what it was called. Edit yes it was confirmed later in the video.
imagine how HMS Hood crew feel like
All the fake drama detracts from the story.
No kidding Jose, if it were so risky they would have just scrapped the ship instead.
Wish I could have saved the dish off the top of it LOL
I thought this was the ship from the movie Virus and i was right!
*meanwhile while the man is setting up his deotonator, you see an old rusted out A6M Zero with a man screaming BANZAAAAAAAAI as it crashes into the dead ship*
I didnt know that Key West was an island lol 🙃😛🤯🤪
11:04 are we gonna pretend none of just learned shooting a rocket from under water was possible for the first time?
HOLY CRAP IT'S THE SHIP FROM THE MOVIE VIRUS!!!!!!
That was the ship used in the film Virus.
yep I used to love watching that film every Halloween scares the shit with those alien like cyber creatures. But was the ship originally Russian I never seen ships like that in the US at till now. Thought this ship was a Russian vessel because the first time I saw this ship was from that movie.
Tom wasnt doin shit, they had a rope holding that wire too 😂
Esse navio velho vai afundar igual o Titanic, em 1912.
You can give this ship for somalian pirates they Will love to have this
This is the true titanic
If that's the dirtiest he's ever been he's had a very sheltered life!
I don't see the need for all this extra effort, I remember seeing videos where the navy would sink ships for target practice.
Yeah not in specific places and safe and suitable for diving though
"the endless jacking is getting them no where". And the anchor falls.
There is a lot of dangerous confined space work here, and I don't see any permits or rescue crews. Especially at 32:32, there are strict regulations about flammable/hazardous materials in confined space.
you would think they would want to salvage those antenas/radars
You hear the oceans are rising, some believe it's the melting ice at the poles which with studies of ice cores that it's the earth goes through cycles, but if this continues of dumping crap like this you may get that theory which hadn't happen yet.
Imagine being on that when the bombs detonated and the ship started to sink....
Literaly the ´´Vandenberg´´ translated in it´s Dutch Originated name means; ´´from the mountain´´. So from the mountain to the bottom sounds a bit ironic.
lebih baik di rekondisi atau di potongbuat didaur ulang kembali