I don't blame you since it isn't super well known knowledge, but tier 5 bottom row glue gunners actually do massive damage when attacking bloons that already have glue on them, so that would have worked better for this style of test.
@TheNeoGod you are correct that a lof of rounds past 140 are random. However, the seed is set when you start the run, and is stored to save. Which means retry last round uses the same round.
@@iamdaniel471 yeah the real deciding factor is if you get a BAD or a heavy DDDT rush. After 200 you start getting DBADs and that's when chimps become monkeys
@@derk6well yes but the point was for all towers to have the same conditions and that would be a huge advantage. My main concern with that was that the bomb blitz was the worst of the bomb tier 5's.
I was enjoying the video, then i realized i watched 30 minutes of a 2 hour video The way he makes his videos are very relaxing, i want more of this type of experiment
We need to see: Moab Eliminator Super Brittle (damage stacking) Super Glue Cripple Moab (damage stacking) Pre-emptive Strike Wizard Lord Pheonix Total Transformation Avatar of Wrath Gigantosaurus Super Mines These could all potentially go farther than the paths sbown in the video.
I don't care about most of those things he apologizes for anyways, but I would've liked to see middle path alchemist and bottom path farm, the latter being especially interesting with its life generation, which could've made it the most unique tower in this video. Tye actual farm segment ended up being pretty lame.
Don’t even care if you don’t see this, you’re one of those youtubers that I find once in a blue moon which I love. It’s like rediscovering ISAB again a couple years ago. You managed to have me hooked for 2 straight hours, bravo Neo, bravo. Very excited to see how you go in the future.
A list of suboptimal sub-paths you chose in this video, in case you wanted to do something similar in the future: 2-0-5 boomer instead of 0-2-5 (Which you also did note) 2-0-5 bomb instead of 0-2-5 (2-0-4 is better but not 2-0-5) 5-0-2 tack instead of 5-2-0 (The meteor benefits immensely from pierce and middle path is, therefore, better when the tack is unbuffed.) 5-2-0 wizard instead of 5-0-2 (I actually think this path got buffed so perhaps it wasn't the bigest problem, but archmage really needs pierce.) 2-0-5 alchemist instead of 0-2-5 (The middle path massively increases MOAB damage which doesn't usually matter for BMA, but matters in this case for the BADs.) 2-5-0 druid instead of 0-5-2 (The bottom path gives boost to attack speed which was important since you died to BADs, though, it might have lost to DDTs, so I'm honestly not sure.) In regards to the black hole ability, it was changed to a global cooldown to prevent buy-sell cheese for infinite rounds. That happened a long time ago.
To avoid having to restart everytime from stratch, I recommend installing "time machine" mod or sth like that - it allows you to come back to any round of your choosing, as long as you have beaten it.
also being honest, super glue would have been better then solver, Solver does great damage and detroys cerams but he has fixed damage, while super glue can consistantly damage all moabs and just stop normal bloons on their tracks
Bloon Solver was a really bad pick. The glue doesn’t stack, so you would have had practically the same setup as just a couple Bloon Solvers covering the track. Super Glue actually does damage, so stacking it would actually do something different
There might be a mod just for this out there somewhere, but the Mega Knowledge mod has two Monkey Knowledge points which let Mortars and Dartlings respectively automatically aim like other towers. You can just turn those two on and leave all the other extra ones off.
it's so funny how he did a pretty good job of keeping an eye out for towers that he forgot to upgrade but the AP darts sub is just chilling in the bottom left and he doesn't notice
This is just purely speculation, but MAYBE the Ray of Doom MIGHT have worked, if you didn't have the 'Cross the streams' monkey knowledge (The one that causes plasma pools when ray of doom or plasma accelerator beams cross) I suspect that maybe, all of the calculations for where all of the plasma pools would be at, might've contributed to the lag you were dealing with. But, I could be entirely wrong, and maybe resetting your monkey knowledge and re-getting everything but that singular one monkey knowledge (or just turning monkey knowledge off, but that also takes away all of the other power monkey knowledges give you) might not help at all.
1:43:28 does give some credence to my theory. I doubt the acid pools and the plasma pools are too dissimilar, all things considered, and since all of the acid pools cause so much lag... the plasma ones probably do the same.
For mortal, middle path is ALWAYS the correct choice. No matter what mortar you build. And since the burny stuff damage buffs are locked behind tier THREE top path, you didn't get them anyways. So just faster attack speed would've been far superior. And also, since burny stuff doesn't stack, I'm pretty sure the bottom path mortar was the worst possible choice for this test. And because of the issue of staggering the shots, I wouldn't have picked top path either. Middle path shoots so fast that the staggering issue doesn't exist and generally has the best DPS among the mortars usually anyways.
Did you forget bloonineration creates a wall a fire every time it attacks? The shattering shells also removes fortified properties on all Bloons but bads (ddts aren’t effected if you don’t have monkey knowledge) also make it a good support tower, even for its price, viable in chimps
@@vadimyudkovsky9022 No I didn't forget that. But blooncineration still doesn't get more DPS than the middle path believe it or not. The sheer attack speed is just ridiculous. People more into this game than me did precise tests on it, which is where I got this opinion from. So even with the buffs, blooncineration is rarely ever the correct choice sadly, I'd like for it to be better, but unfortunately, there is pretty much never a good reason to use it unless you're on a map where mortars are REALLY good so you just wanna place all tier 5s, because in a normal game you can't spamm the same tier 5 of course. So in that scenario, like the moon landing map, I would use a blooncineration after I got the other 2 tier 5s. Although I actually believe it would just be better to spamm artillery batteries because pop and awe passively buffs the bad and boss damage of all artillery batteries, so artillery batteries end up being far more money efficient.
@@ardynizunia9709the only viable reason for having blooncineration for me is just upgrading to blooncineration because you have the money for it even though all you need is shattering shells for its insane scaling being able to strip fortified off of most moab class bloons
@@Theblindingofissac So? That is no burny stuff DPS lmao. Get a shattering shells and LEAVE IT AT THAT. No need to upgrade to blooncineration. Removing fortified is obviously good, but the burn is NOT.
I usually have a short attention span to yt videos but I just discovered your channel and you had me hooked for over 2 hours,you also helped me get throughfully black border a map by me literally sitting infront of my computer and watching your vid and just placing 3 mer monkey and upgrading them to each different path. For this I thank you and give you a subscribe,you earnt it
hey brother. appreciate the content. noticing a trend where your videos that are 30-60+ minutes are getting hundreds of thousands of views and some of the shorter ones have 5, 10, 30k views. seems like you cracked the algorithm code with the longer ones. keep doing what you love and good luck :)
@@Quts_ DDTS have black property, Bomb Blitz does explosive type dmg. The DDTS were de-camo'd as you can see some Bombs that were outside of MIB range still attempt to hit it.
Left/right hand on the boomerangs is there to maximize boons hit. You need to set it so it goes against the flow of bloons, this way more bloons will "pass through" the boomerangs. The faster the bloons the more noticeable it is
Amazing video! Honestly impressive the amount of time you put in, and it was cool to see the results. If this video does well enough that you decide to do it again, here's some recommendations for what tier fives to use: Glaive Dominus - would look really cool Tack Zone - might be too laggy, though Elite Sniper - when crosspathed with the top path, elite sniper has a really solid mix of damage and spread that makes it more than just a cash path. Also, each elite sniper buffs the attack speed of other snipers by 33% - if that bonus stacks, this one could be insane. Cripple Moab- splash damage could be crazy. MOAB Eliminator would be ability heavy but cool to see, since MOAB mauler spam is a semi popular strat on its own. Trade Empire - this one won't do as well, but it's another case where the towers will buff each other. The bonus is compounded if you crosspath into grapeshot. Sky Shredder would be cool but incredibly laggy, Tsar Bomba would be cool but requires micro. Comanche Commander could look really cool. Recommend pursuit to avoid headaches. Pop and Awe would require micro but buffs all artillery batteries - though I'm not sure if it will buff other tier 5s. I'm just curious how laggy Bloon Exclusion Zone would be and how well it would do. Prince of Darkness would be INSANE, the tower on its own is really solid but each one will also buff all the others. I think most of the ninja spam strats you mention are utilizing Shinobi Tactics to buff all of you Shinobi. So, Grand Saboteur would be cool to see. Total Transformation could be really cool if you can find a way to manage the micro. Avatar of Wrath would, of course, be good, but I wouldn't mind seeing Superstorm, as the tower is kind of crazy. Either of the other spactory paths would be great, top path does a ton of damage and doesn't need quite as much time to build up as bottom path, and middle path would be ability heavy but can melt moabs and bads like nothing I've ever seen. Overclock would be cool, but like, also torture for you. XXL trap would be cool but also probably lose to the BAD.
10:20 has an incomplete boomerang below the lives right next to the MIB, he has a V instead of an X, idk if he's 0-0-1 or 1-0-0 or just pure t0 but he's not an X
33:39 bro does a time else notice the “breathing” effect happening here? It’s so cool! It looks like all the ice monkeys are breathing or something because there’s a subtle change in their movement.
i know almost nothing about this game, but youtube recommended this video to me and it tickles my little neurodivergent brain like in such a specific way, i love it
I hope you do a follow up with the tier 5s that you skipped ngl btw, consider using some sort of Instant monkey mod, where it just gives you loads of every instant monkey in the game, so you dont have to manually upgrade them as much, itll probably save time
I think most of the time sink is due to lag making the later rounds take forever. Instant monkey might save some tedium but I don't think it will save much time.
@@alexion3007he can restart, place down the instas and then skip back to where he left off. The random rounds might be a bit of a problem but it doesn't matter that much, atleast he won't have missed any towers.
2:06:38 you can actually fit five spike factory's into both squares, you have carefully construct an X with them, put one at the edge of each corner, then there should be room for one in the center, it would also be better if they were all set to smart targeting, because then you'd have multiple piles doing huge damage instead of many piles doing a little
to answer your question with ninjas late game, they are very good when buffed. their attack speed/pierce is quadrupled with shinobi stacking. they also only deal 1 damage per projectile, which means that buffing them is really effective. VTSG gives +4 damage among other buffs, permabrew adds +2 damage, and debuffs can amount for up to +13 (glue storm, embrittlement, super brittle, cripple moab) so take a bloonjitsu, throwing 5 shurikens at a moderate speed, and not only make its attack speed nuts through shinobi stacking/other buffs, but also multiply their damage by up to 20 times.
If you're interested in doing a similar video in the future, I'd like to see top path Sniper, top Bomber, Bottom Heli, Middle Sub, Bottom Dartling (with Target Independently), Middle Wizard, Bottom Ninja, Middle Alch, Top Druid
Honestly, maybe should've gone middle path ninja. Sure bloonjitsu and grandmaster ninja is strong and all, but you're missing out on the power of all them shinobi tactics. They're like the druids of wrath, the more you have, the stronger they are. And considering you have a whole map full of them... Honestly, 20+ shinobi tactics surrounding a cluster of grandmasters probably would do WAY better than either path on its own. But this isn't the video for mixing different paths. Though, if you ever do such a video, this would be the second thing to look forward to. (The first being the moab doms on the outside, with glaive lords in the middle of the loops, mentioned at 13:01)
...or having a bunch of perma-brewed Total transformation alchemists shredding the B.A.D., while some B.M.A.s turn anything that comes out of the B.A.D.s into red bloons.
1:31:49 NO WAY!!! IT'S A WOMAN ! (It's actually surprising for me to even hear a woman's voice, giving that I've got 40 black chimps medals and everything)
@@nolunch2 it doesn’t stack so it’s pointless in a challenge like this, but 0-0-5 does impact damage and keeps shooting already glued Bloons so it will out perform 5-0-0
one tack shooter remained a 302 in the bottom left corner behind the mib... a moment of silence 😢 jokes aside though this is amazing and way too interesting for how simple it seems, great presentation
to help with the lag too, you could turn the effects lower in the settings tab. it makes the projectiles appear smaller, and some of them invisible, which might make it more difficult to target some (like ray of doom) but I find it very worth it for longer runs, or set ups with alot of projectiles (especially like for bosses and stuff).
41:12 i think the best targeting option for military monkeys is the Last target, it shoots 10% faster or something like that idk if it could past this round though
22:28 “This is gonna be very fun, very confusing but we’re gonna get it done. Indeed very confusing, very dumb but get it done.” 31:47 “Aw dude, I went to take a piss and come back to this?” Actual lyrical genius
I don't if I agree with your sniper or sub upgrade paths. The problem with the bottom path on both of them is the DPS is much lower despite the higher attack speed. For snipers, the stun + increased damage rips through the bigger bloons. For the subs the missiles fire in addition to their regular shot so they get an extra shot at much higher damage and you get their ability so if you just used that ability as fast as you could it would take out a LOT of big stuff.
32:05 once again. The rounds are only random for each new game load in. Meaning if you restart the game and don’t back out the rounds will be the exact same every single time. Hope this helps for future videos. Edit: For further clarification: If you only “restarted” each run, the rounds 1-100,000,000,000, will all be the exact same. Meaning round 204 of the next tower from this point would’ve also had the same Bloon sends.
I am curious if the 205 glue gunner would go significantly further, because it can hit the same bloon multiple times and has impact damage. Perhaps a follow up video where debatable cross paths get visited? For example the 502 sniper,
Hey Neo, I love your variety content. I would love to see some more on the channel. I still enjoy the BTD6 videos, I just enjoy seeing you play other games. But no matter what, I will still watch you.
Have you considered getting an infinite range village mod? Alternatively having someone mod something that lets you place a bunch of towers down would be nice. Or save ‘presets’ of your placements. That would be cool haha. I just feel bad that you have to do all that by hand. But just like the hand carving of a woodworker, the knowledge of the work behind such a craft makes the piece that much sweeter.
I love the Bloons games, because they are made by Kiwi Ninja, a local New Zealand company. And, in the original version, I can play the perfect game with only basic monkeys, and a handful of Super Monkeys.
Unupgraded moneys list !!!(ONLY T5)!!! (tell me if i missed any) Dart: found one unupgraded in the top left and one top right. plus another one above the top right M.I.B. (3) Boomer: none (0) bomb: 1 towards the bottom right (1) tack: one above the top left mid and (i think) one above the bottom left mib. (2) ice: one middle of the right side, a little towards the bottom (1) glue: one at the top right (1) sniper: one at top left mib (1) sub: how did he not see that one💀(1) bucc: it's really hard to see, but counting the green planes, it should be 2 (2) ace: i saw four with shorter wings (4) heli: it's obvious he missed none (0) Mortar: pretty sure, none either (0) dartling: 11 abilitys, so 11 missing (11) wizard: none (0) super: can't see if the top left one is, or isn't (0) ninja: what a streak. 3 monkeys with 0 (0) alc: 1 above the top right mib (1) druid: 4 missing vine abilitys (4) farm: 0 obviously. (0) village: another obvious 0 (0) engi: one top right. one bottom right. even two top left. (4) beast: didn't see an orca among the megalos, so i think none. (0) spac: obvious one bottom right. also, he should have used super mines. smh (1) total: 34
tack is also inaccurate, t1 has a VERY hidden unupgraded, (found via missing barrels lol) it's right above the leftmost point of cash counter MIB (i compared the barrels with the barrels of one that was in the middle of the map, and it's missing some) my timestamp is 26:40 or you just didn't say that that one was a t1 mis-upgrade, since he does upgrade it for t2
Fun fact on the boomerang! The middle crosspath attacks faster (more single target dps), but bottom crosspath has a lot more pierce and _deals 50% more knockback_ I always go top crosspath for my aussie boomers. It's so satisfying.
If you’ve ever played BTD 6 then you’d know how boring it is to stare at a screen for 3 hours just to hit round 200 only. And the rounds start to take like 5+ mins each.
You could always do future videos hitting a second and third Tier 0-0 to Tier 2-5. After that, you could do a bonus fourth video with a mix of every Tier 2-5 scattered across the map, like a rainbow. Tier 5-2-0, Tier 5-0-2, Tier 2-5-0, Tier 2-0-5, Tier 0-5-2 Tier 0-2-5. See if a scattered mix of all six can beat your favorite three combos' best scores.
Man, the fact you did all this manually is insane. Might have been worth looking into either getting someone to make a mod for this or making it yourself
First I don’t know how I got here. But also ALL THAT SPEED UP MONTAGE OMYGOD All the monkeys moving perspective makes it look like a flowing textural fur
"Once again, look into the fire. Enjoy your final moments of peace. There's about to be a lot going on, but it's okay." Are you sending me to the shadow realm or something? Like am I about to die Jesus christ lmfao
26:49 in the bottom right corner right under the fifth tree and 2 to the left counting the tack shooters there’s one upgraded an extra time, just felt like pointing it out
I think middle path sub would've probably done more damage, sub commander gives a 2x damage and pierce buff to every sub in its radius (every sub on screen with the monkey knowledge) so its the same as having 1 sub commander and a tier 4 army while middle path not only has the ballistic missiles for group damage but also has an ability that does huge splash and single target damage. To top it all off multiple preemptive strikes would have destroyed everything up to non-fortified BADS. A big thing to note is that ceramic bloons past round 80 will always have the same health no matter what round you're on. only moab health scales with rounds
I’m running a thumbnail test, Let me know which one you got. Squidward and the inferno ring or Frozone and the ice monkey?👇
i got both
I got squid
Squidward and inferno ring
super suit
Frozone
I don't blame you since it isn't super well known knowledge, but tier 5 bottom row glue gunners actually do massive damage when attacking bloons that already have glue on them, so that would have worked better for this style of test.
That would've been super slow...
@@versuzzero5335 it wouldn't be. Not like you think anyways.
@@versuzzero5335 I mean, it would have eventually lost to one of the early BAD rounds since they don't get slowed.
@@RobBor-ku2rqactually it makes the game crash because of stacking problemsb
@@theinfinitydie1582it would crash very much before 98 maybe even brick
@TheNeoGod you are correct that a lof of rounds past 140 are random. However, the seed is set when you start the run, and is stored to save. Which means retry last round uses the same round.
not to mention that every random round still has about the same RBE (red bloons equivelant)
@ing someone in the comment section doesn't ping them
@@cornucopiac1088 oh thats weird thanks for the headsup
@@iamdaniel471 yeah the real deciding factor is if you get a BAD or a heavy DDDT
rush. After 200 you start getting DBADs and that's when chimps become monkeys
I think the only real exceptions are 163 and 200 iirc
the bomb shooter struggled with ddts because ddts have black bloon's explosion immunity, so only the few in mibs could deal with them
He shouldve placed striker jones somewhere he can't attack so he makes all bomb shooters be able to pop blacks and zebras
@@derk6well yes but the point was for all towers to have the same conditions and that would be a huge advantage.
My main concern with that was that the bomb blitz was the worst of the bomb tier 5's.
@@RetsamXat least for this challenge
@@RetsamX
And he didn’t even use faster shooting blitz’s
@@RetsamXhe used Striker for Mortars though.
I was enjoying the video, then i realized i watched 30 minutes of a 2 hour video
The way he makes his videos are very relaxing, i want more of this type of experiment
We need to see:
Moab Eliminator
Super Brittle (damage stacking)
Super Glue
Cripple Moab (damage stacking)
Pre-emptive Strike
Wizard Lord Pheonix
Total Transformation
Avatar of Wrath
Gigantosaurus
Super Mines
These could all potentially go farther than the paths sbown in the video.
Facts. I completely agree, those were all the ones I had a little bit of a grudge with
Elite sniper NEEDS to happen
I think u forgor grant sabetour
And Comanche commander
Master Bomer?
You apologize for your own actions a bit too much. It’s YOUR video so you do what you want man, I’ll watch it and be happy no matter what.
I don't care about most of those things he apologizes for anyways, but I would've liked to see middle path alchemist and bottom path farm, the latter being especially interesting with its life generation, which could've made it the most unique tower in this video. Tye actual farm segment ended up being pretty lame.
Is bro the star man waiting in the sky?
Yeah same
That’s so valid bro I respect tf out of you
Don’t even care if you don’t see this, you’re one of those youtubers that I find once in a blue moon which I love. It’s like rediscovering ISAB again a couple years ago. You managed to have me hooked for 2 straight hours, bravo Neo, bravo. Very excited to see how you go in the future.
@@LiterallyJustOVEN sorry for the late response, thank you!
@@TheNeoGod-I love you
Thank you for notifiying me that this is a 2 hour video, I need sleep right now so nope
@@TheNeoGod-you missed an elite defender at the top left, right behind the village
Next video: How far can a map full of 5-5-5 monkeys go?
I had the same idea lol
His PC will explode
godboosted 5-5-5
@@TheGamingG810 now this is just the end of the universe
I would love to see this
A list of suboptimal sub-paths you chose in this video, in case you wanted to do something similar in the future:
2-0-5 boomer instead of 0-2-5 (Which you also did note)
2-0-5 bomb instead of 0-2-5 (2-0-4 is better but not 2-0-5)
5-0-2 tack instead of 5-2-0 (The meteor benefits immensely from pierce and middle path is, therefore, better when the tack is unbuffed.)
5-2-0 wizard instead of 5-0-2 (I actually think this path got buffed so perhaps it wasn't the bigest problem, but archmage really needs pierce.)
2-0-5 alchemist instead of 0-2-5 (The middle path massively increases MOAB damage which doesn't usually matter for BMA, but matters in this case for the BADs.)
2-5-0 druid instead of 0-5-2 (The bottom path gives boost to attack speed which was important since you died to BADs, though, it might have lost to DDTs, so I'm honestly not sure.)
In regards to the black hole ability, it was changed to a global cooldown to prevent buy-sell cheese for infinite rounds. That happened a long time ago.
To avoid having to restart everytime from stratch, I recommend installing "time machine" mod or sth like that - it allows you to come back to any round of your choosing, as long as you have beaten it.
41:44
“‘were going to go for top and middle path” proceeds to click top and bottom
Yeah, also elite sniper does better than both cripple moab and elite defender
But that one sniper 😂
No it doesnt. Are you crazy. Elite sniper has 0 single target damage. Cripple is by far the best with the new splash damage...
I think your missing the joke that he said one thing and did another thing then what he said
@@nekomoves1714 hes either 34 or 6, they talk the same when online
For the record, Cripple MOAB recently got buffed to deal area damage, so it would have gotten the furthest of any sniper t5 by a significant margin
I agree with this assessment.
@@Felix-sl2hw damn area damage? if I knew that i would’ve😭😭
also being honest, super glue would have been better then solver, Solver does great damage and detroys cerams but he has fixed damage, while super glue can consistantly damage all moabs and just stop normal bloons on their tracks
Well, yeah, he didn't really pick the best crosspaths for late game so...
Some people are hoping for the 5-5-5 ultimate crosspath towers.
@@togeluga_the_catwait, correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think super glue does damage to BADs, DO THEY?
Bloon Solver was a really bad pick. The glue doesn’t stack, so you would have had practically the same setup as just a couple Bloon Solvers covering the track. Super Glue actually does damage, so stacking it would actually do something different
Wait does super glue do damage to bads, I’m not sure rn?
@@Mercieryit does, it just doesn't slow them
@@adamjeviczki3175 oh ok thx for letting me know
sorry I knew it dealt damage but i didn’t know it was per hit, if I knew i would’ve done that one
Yeah but Moab glue doesn’t have any dps so it would basically be a forced tier 5 by round 40
“You were a little red balloon, You are floating through here and they don’t see you and then… Wow“ 50:18
Words of a man who’s lost his mind. 😂
and the sub at the bottom that he missed at the same time
Going for perma spikes instead of super mines was a huge mistake
There might be a mod just for this out there somewhere, but the Mega Knowledge mod has two Monkey Knowledge points which let Mortars and Dartlings respectively automatically aim like other towers. You can just turn those two on and leave all the other extra ones off.
I know the darling gunners one upgrade path has independent targeting as a option.
A shame he isnt doing every one, filling the map with 004 helis is the funniest thing.
It's a basically the same thing as the boomerang
@@AvanYT....is the Comanche defense a joke to you?
Dude imagine ultra juggernaut
@@Mrwaterbearinc Push stuff do damage Same thing
@@Mrwaterbearinc why do you act like he laughed at your mom's funeral when he said that the stalling power of 45 004 helis would be funny looking
51:39 dude, my fav monkey by FAR. I always thought they looked awesome with cool upgrades. Great video.
it's so funny how he did a pretty good job of keeping an eye out for towers that he forgot to upgrade but the AP darts sub is just chilling in the bottom left and he doesn't notice
48:26 that one mf down there in the trees that isn't attacking took his damn sweet time to finally help smh
Lmao underrated comment😊😊
There was one 2-4 spike on the bottom left 😭😭
This is just purely speculation, but MAYBE the Ray of Doom MIGHT have worked, if you didn't have the 'Cross the streams' monkey knowledge (The one that causes plasma pools when ray of doom or plasma accelerator beams cross)
I suspect that maybe, all of the calculations for where all of the plasma pools would be at, might've contributed to the lag you were dealing with.
But, I could be entirely wrong, and maybe resetting your monkey knowledge and re-getting everything but that singular one monkey knowledge (or just turning monkey knowledge off, but that also takes away all of the other power monkey knowledges give you) might not help at all.
1:43:28 does give some credence to my theory. I doubt the acid pools and the plasma pools are too dissimilar, all things considered, and since all of the acid pools cause so much lag... the plasma ones probably do the same.
THE LAG
For mortal, middle path is ALWAYS the correct choice. No matter what mortar you build.
And since the burny stuff damage buffs are locked behind tier THREE top path, you didn't get them anyways. So just faster attack speed would've been far superior.
And also, since burny stuff doesn't stack, I'm pretty sure the bottom path mortar was the worst possible choice for this test.
And because of the issue of staggering the shots, I wouldn't have picked top path either.
Middle path shoots so fast that the staggering issue doesn't exist and generally has the best DPS among the mortars usually anyways.
Did you forget bloonineration creates a wall a fire every time it attacks?
The shattering shells also removes fortified properties on all Bloons but bads (ddts aren’t effected if you don’t have monkey knowledge) also make it a good support tower, even for its price, viable in chimps
@@vadimyudkovsky9022
No I didn't forget that. But blooncineration still doesn't get more DPS than the middle path believe it or not. The sheer attack speed is just ridiculous.
People more into this game than me did precise tests on it, which is where I got this opinion from.
So even with the buffs, blooncineration is rarely ever the correct choice sadly, I'd like for it to be better, but unfortunately, there is pretty much never a good reason to use it unless you're on a map where mortars are REALLY good so you just wanna place all tier 5s, because in a normal game you can't spamm the same tier 5 of course.
So in that scenario, like the moon landing map, I would use a blooncineration after I got the other 2 tier 5s.
Although I actually believe it would just be better to spamm artillery batteries because pop and awe passively buffs the bad and boss damage of all artillery batteries, so artillery batteries end up being far more money efficient.
@@ardynizunia9709the only viable reason for having blooncineration for me is just upgrading to blooncineration because you have the money for it even though all you need is shattering shells for its insane scaling being able to strip fortified off of most moab class bloons
@@ardynizunia9709dps? Brother eliminating half of fortified Bloons hp is so much dps
@@Theblindingofissac
So? That is no burny stuff DPS lmao.
Get a shattering shells and LEAVE IT AT THAT. No need to upgrade to blooncineration. Removing fortified is obviously good, but the burn is NOT.
I usually have a short attention span to yt videos but I just discovered your channel and you had me hooked for over 2 hours,you also helped me get throughfully black border a map by me literally sitting infront of my computer and watching your vid and just placing 3 mer monkey and upgrading them to each different path. For this I thank you and give you a subscribe,you earnt it
hey brother. appreciate the content. noticing a trend where your videos that are 30-60+ minutes are getting hundreds of thousands of views and some of the shorter ones have 5, 10, 30k views. seems like you cracked the algorithm code with the longer ones. keep doing what you love and good luck :)
btw the tier 5 bottom path glue can hit the same target twice and he also does impact damge wich makes him better when spammed
Dayum bro just casually dropped a movie
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@@Bigsmilyboythat’s the joke r u sped. Look at bros pfp
The reason why the DDTS were getting so far with the Bomb waa because the Bomb Blitz can't pop blacks meaning only the ones in MIB range can hit it
@@Quts_ DDTS have black property, Bomb Blitz does explosive type dmg. The DDTS were de-camo'd as you can see some Bombs that were outside of MIB range still attempt to hit it.
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Left/right hand on the boomerangs is there to maximize boons hit. You need to set it so it goes against the flow of bloons, this way more bloons will "pass through" the boomerangs. The faster the bloons the more noticeable it is
Amazing video! Honestly impressive the amount of time you put in, and it was cool to see the results. If this video does well enough that you decide to do it again, here's some recommendations for what tier fives to use:
Glaive Dominus - would look really cool
Tack Zone - might be too laggy, though
Elite Sniper - when crosspathed with the top path, elite sniper has a really solid mix of damage and spread that makes it more than just a cash path. Also, each elite sniper buffs the attack speed of other snipers by 33% - if that bonus stacks, this one could be insane.
Cripple Moab- splash damage could be crazy.
MOAB Eliminator would be ability heavy but cool to see, since MOAB mauler spam is a semi popular strat on its own.
Trade Empire - this one won't do as well, but it's another case where the towers will buff each other. The bonus is compounded if you crosspath into grapeshot.
Sky Shredder would be cool but incredibly laggy, Tsar Bomba would be cool but requires micro.
Comanche Commander could look really cool. Recommend pursuit to avoid headaches.
Pop and Awe would require micro but buffs all artillery batteries - though I'm not sure if it will buff other tier 5s.
I'm just curious how laggy Bloon Exclusion Zone would be and how well it would do.
Prince of Darkness would be INSANE, the tower on its own is really solid but each one will also buff all the others.
I think most of the ninja spam strats you mention are utilizing Shinobi Tactics to buff all of you Shinobi. So, Grand Saboteur would be cool to see.
Total Transformation could be really cool if you can find a way to manage the micro.
Avatar of Wrath would, of course, be good, but I wouldn't mind seeing Superstorm, as the tower is kind of crazy.
Either of the other spactory paths would be great, top path does a ton of damage and doesn't need quite as much time to build up as bottom path, and middle path would be ability heavy but can melt moabs and bads like nothing I've ever seen.
Overclock would be cool, but like, also torture for you. XXL trap would be cool but also probably lose to the BAD.
Nah the glaive lord with all their orbiting projectiles was gonna be so cool 😭
But no bad damage 😵
It has a bleed effect@@shaydenprime275
@@shaydenprime275 the galive lord has amazing bad damage after they made its projectile rochochet.
@@shaydenprime275 the orbiting glaives tho
The lag would be crazy
The bitrate compression actually looks so good in this video!
The sheer commitment that this man has to doing these videos is commendable.
I don't even want to imagine how long this took. Kudos.
45:07 I like to look for un-upgraded towers, and there was a t-4 sniper above the top left mib
10:20 has an incomplete boomerang below the lives right next to the MIB, he has a V instead of an X, idk if he's 0-0-1 or 1-0-0 or just pure t0 but he's not an X
23:28 there's one 105 bomb shooter
50:16 bottom left corner it has the green hat
1:19:51 that mf sitting next to the spike pile...
Edit: I just saw another in the bottom left.
1:17:44
one on the left, one on the top, four more on the right
33:39 bro does a time else notice the “breathing” effect happening here? It’s so cool! It looks like all the ice monkeys are breathing or something because there’s a subtle change in their movement.
it’s called “an idle animation”!!
this man is a person of comitment, detication, and sheer FUCKING WILL
Monkey Wick
The willpower of Letsgameitout is still unmatched
@@enriquelopez3479fr
And sorry to be that guy but its spelled dedication
i know almost nothing about this game, but youtube recommended this video to me and it tickles my little neurodivergent brain like in such a specific way, i love it
@@thedenseone6443 hahaha i’m glad you enjoyed
I loved listening to you say you need to pay attention more during the sniper monkeys while I was staring at the unupgraded ones.
I hope you do a follow up with the tier 5s that you skipped ngl
btw, consider using some sort of Instant monkey mod, where it just gives you loads of every instant monkey in the game, so you dont have to manually upgrade them as much, itll probably save time
I think most of the time sink is due to lag making the later rounds take forever.
Instant monkey might save some tedium but I don't think it will save much time.
Would selling every monkey and replacing from the instant tab actually be faster than upgrading? I don't think so
@@alexion3007he can restart, place down the instas and then skip back to where he left off. The random rounds might be a bit of a problem but it doesn't matter that much, atleast he won't have missed any towers.
Bro this must’ve taken so long lol thx for taking ur time to make this type of stuff
Props to him for editing everything, thats insane, atleast I think, imma watch it all.
2:06:38 you can actually fit five spike factory's into both squares, you have carefully construct an X with them, put one at the edge of each corner, then there should be room for one in the center, it would also be better if they were all set to smart targeting, because then you'd have multiple piles doing huge damage instead of many piles doing a little
First video of yours I’ve ever seen, great stuff man! Played the shit out of some Bloons TD6 in my time
to answer your question with ninjas late game, they are very good when buffed. their attack speed/pierce is quadrupled with shinobi stacking.
they also only deal 1 damage per projectile, which means that buffing them is really effective. VTSG gives +4 damage among other buffs, permabrew adds +2 damage, and debuffs can amount for up to +13 (glue storm, embrittlement, super brittle, cripple moab)
so take a bloonjitsu, throwing 5 shurikens at a moderate speed, and not only make its attack speed nuts through shinobi stacking/other buffs, but also multiply their damage by up to 20 times.
If you're interested in doing a similar video in the future, I'd like to see top path Sniper, top Bomber, Bottom Heli, Middle Sub, Bottom Dartling (with Target Independently), Middle Wizard, Bottom Ninja, Middle Alch, Top Druid
Honestly, maybe should've gone middle path ninja. Sure bloonjitsu and grandmaster ninja is strong and all, but you're missing out on the power of all them shinobi tactics. They're like the druids of wrath, the more you have, the stronger they are. And considering you have a whole map full of them...
Honestly, 20+ shinobi tactics surrounding a cluster of grandmasters probably would do WAY better than either path on its own. But this isn't the video for mixing different paths.
Though, if you ever do such a video, this would be the second thing to look forward to. (The first being the moab doms on the outside, with glaive lords in the middle of the loops, mentioned at 13:01)
...or having a bunch of perma-brewed Total transformation alchemists shredding the B.A.D., while some B.M.A.s turn anything that comes out of the B.A.D.s into red bloons.
...or maybe the village? Those top path villages were powerful on their own, so how would they fare with constant homeland defense buffs?
Master bomber would've been even better
1:31:49 NO WAY!!!
IT'S A WOMAN !
(It's actually surprising for me to even hear a woman's voice, giving that I've got 40 black chimps medals and everything)
2:11:11 biggest fumble in mankind’s history…. 5-2-0 is what he should’ve done…. It wouldn’t even be a close comparison…
ikr it made me kind of angry
no wrong this it self makes me angry
since there is no alchemist
5-0-2 dose more damage
Going bloon solver over super glue hurt to see, so did going 2-0-3 sniper over 0-2-3 or 3-2-0
I like bloon solver more
3+ 02 wold be nice now. little aoe should be enough for ceramics in such a case
@@nolunch2 it doesn’t stack so it’s pointless in a challenge like this, but 0-0-5 does impact damage and keeps shooting already glued Bloons so it will out perform 5-0-0
@@johannesdatblue4164 yeah, the AOE explosion should carry but I can’t remember how well shrapnel scales
@@theinsane833 I ment if your just playing the game
Kinda disapoinyed you didnt do bottom teir farm to see how long it would last since they generate lives great video though, great dedication.
Black hole is a global cooldown, buying and reselling, or even just having multiple, makes no difference
Don't waste your time commenting on this guys video😂😂he knows nothing and never listen to the comment😂😂 his ego just to big to listen to us
@@ariffaisal3973tf u mean he has replied many comments
I think you can buy and resell a singular Dark Knight and it resets the cooldown, but I might be losing it
@@SwordOfBlueThunderno you can dw
one tack shooter remained a 302 in the bottom left corner behind the mib... a moment of silence 😢
jokes aside though this is amazing and way too interesting for how simple it seems, great presentation
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to help with the lag too, you could turn the effects lower in the settings tab. it makes the projectiles appear smaller, and some of them invisible, which might make it more difficult to target some (like ray of doom) but I find it very worth it for longer runs, or set ups with alot of projectiles (especially like for bosses and stuff).
41:12 i think the best targeting option for military monkeys is the Last target, it shoots 10% faster or something like that
idk if it could past this round though
Only if you are using monkey knowledge.
Doesn't it only apply to snipers, subs and buccs?
Cause only those have normal targeting
@@locrianphantom3547given that theres mana shield, they likely have that.
@@oranges369 Yeah.. didn’t see that.
22:36 $B mentioned 🔥🔥🔥
😂😂instantly went to the comments
“ahh dude i went to take a piss and i come back to this”🗣️🔥🔥🔥
this video took in any case a big afford, i enjoyed every second of it. a true BANGER.
the fact that this had to take so long to make earns my respect. I could never
let's get 10,000 likes guys! I really want to see how the PC will suffer.
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51:04 can u see it😢
Was just about to comment that
44:42 that one t3...
2, there is one under the cash number
THERE'S 3 TIER 3'S HE MISSED, THE BOTTOM MIDDLE, BOTTOM LEFT UNDER THE VILLAGE AND TOP LEFT
22:28 “This is gonna be very fun, very confusing but we’re gonna get it done. Indeed very confusing, very dumb but get it done.”
31:47 “Aw dude, I went to take a piss and come back to this?”
Actual lyrical genius
I don't if I agree with your sniper or sub upgrade paths. The problem with the bottom path on both of them is the DPS is much lower despite the higher attack speed. For snipers, the stun + increased damage rips through the bigger bloons. For the subs the missiles fire in addition to their regular shot so they get an extra shot at much higher damage and you get their ability so if you just used that ability as fast as you could it would take out a LOT of big stuff.
wsp TheNeoGod i hope your vid gets the most popular video in the uiniverse
Just a thought but going for bloon trap on the engineer monkey might work
Ye, but it would have 0 bad dps lol
No because it wouldn’t be able to do enough bad damage
32:05 once again. The rounds are only random for each new game load in. Meaning if you restart the game and don’t back out the rounds will be the exact same every single time. Hope this helps for future videos.
Edit:
For further clarification:
If you only “restarted” each run, the rounds 1-100,000,000,000, will all be the exact same. Meaning round 204 of the next tower from this point would’ve also had the same Bloon sends.
Really nice video, I enjoyed watching it for 2h. :D
@@apexcryptlord thank you
This video must have taken a lot of time to make. It's a shame it has so few views. Bloons TD6 needs a bigger fanbase
It has 1.5 Million views that seems pretty good to me
@@jamesphillabaum1970 more
31:47 rap god
You don’t have to keep doing this to yourself.
43:55 there is a single sniper monkey at the bottom by the ending track
there was another one top left
You having to restart counting the banana farms repeatedly was the most relatable part of the video.
this song has been repeating in my head for the past 2 weeks
43:18
In Czech, we would say:
"A hundred times nothing killed the donkey."
which I think is pretty fitting, here :D
He missed one 44:36
I am curious if the 205 glue gunner would go significantly further, because it can hit the same bloon multiple times and has impact damage. Perhaps a follow up video where debatable cross paths get visited? For example the 502 sniper,
Hey Neo, I love your variety content. I would love to see some more on the channel. I still enjoy the BTD6 videos, I just enjoy seeing you play other games. But no matter what, I will still watch you.
Please do more of these long form videos. I love to watch them while playing games.😊
27:37 You missed one top left
Ok now do it with 5-5-5s and golden villages
1:53:48 if you didn't put anything under trees and leaves it is exactly 46 banana farms
Have you considered getting an infinite range village mod? Alternatively having someone mod something that lets you place a bunch of towers down would be nice. Or save ‘presets’ of your placements. That would be cool haha. I just feel bad that you have to do all that by hand. But just like the hand carving of a woodworker, the knowledge of the work behind such a craft makes the piece that much sweeter.
I love the Bloons games, because they are made by Kiwi Ninja, a local New Zealand company.
And, in the original version, I can play the perfect game with only basic monkeys, and a handful of Super Monkeys.
All paragons will be so cool!
Unupgraded moneys list !!!(ONLY T5)!!!
(tell me if i missed any)
Dart: found one unupgraded in the top left and one top right. plus another one above the top right M.I.B. (3)
Boomer: none (0)
bomb: 1 towards the bottom right (1)
tack: one above the top left mid and (i think) one above the bottom left mib. (2)
ice: one middle of the right side, a little towards the bottom (1)
glue: one at the top right (1)
sniper: one at top left mib (1)
sub: how did he not see that one💀(1)
bucc: it's really hard to see, but counting the green planes, it should be 2 (2)
ace: i saw four with shorter wings (4)
heli: it's obvious he missed none (0)
Mortar: pretty sure, none either (0)
dartling: 11 abilitys, so 11 missing (11)
wizard: none (0)
super: can't see if the top left one is, or isn't (0)
ninja: what a streak. 3 monkeys with 0 (0)
alc: 1 above the top right mib (1)
druid: 4 missing vine abilitys (4)
farm: 0 obviously. (0)
village: another obvious 0 (0)
engi: one top right. one bottom right. even two top left. (4)
beast: didn't see an orca among the megalos, so i think none. (0)
spac: obvious one bottom right. also, he should have used super mines. smh (1)
total: 34
thats gunna take a while
@@MarwanFroukhi yeah, but i have no life so.....
boomer's inaccurate, 10:20 has one right below the lives counter, out in the open, has a V instead of an X (idk what upgrade he's missing)
@@pizkel_1449 i said t5 only.
tack is also inaccurate, t1 has a VERY hidden unupgraded, (found via missing barrels lol)
it's right above the leftmost point of cash counter MIB (i compared the barrels with the barrels of one that was in the middle of the map, and it's missing some)
my timestamp is 26:40
or you just didn't say that that one was a t1 mis-upgrade, since he does upgrade it for t2
2:05 it took 4 days
Fun fact on the boomerang!
The middle crosspath attacks faster (more single target dps),
but bottom crosspath has a lot more pierce and _deals 50% more knockback_
I always go top crosspath for my aussie boomers. It's so satisfying.
43:48 ONE ORANGE AT THE BOTTOM MAKES ME MAD
2:00 its literally your job
Oh? Do you sign his paycheck?
@@JacquelinsaneYeah, I engaged with his content after he begged for likes and subs. He's making good money off this and complains
If you’ve ever played BTD 6 then you’d know how boring it is to stare at a screen for 3 hours just to hit round 200 only. And the rounds start to take like 5+ mins each.
You could always do future videos hitting a second and third Tier 0-0 to Tier 2-5. After that, you could do a bonus fourth video with a mix of every Tier 2-5 scattered across the map, like a rainbow.
Tier 5-2-0, Tier 5-0-2, Tier 2-5-0, Tier 2-0-5, Tier 0-5-2 Tier 0-2-5.
See if a scattered mix of all six can beat your favorite three combos' best scores.
Man, the fact you did all this manually is insane. Might have been worth looking into either getting someone to make a mod for this or making it yourself
First I don’t know how I got here.
But also ALL THAT SPEED UP MONTAGE OMYGOD
All the monkeys moving perspective makes it look like a flowing textural fur
You're a legend for that 😮💪
28:58 "have you ever seen anything cooler" he says while the screen is ON FIRE🔥🔥🔥
"Once again, look into the fire. Enjoy your final moments of peace. There's about to be a lot going on, but it's okay." Are you sending me to the shadow realm or something? Like am I about to die Jesus christ lmfao
26:49 in the bottom right corner right under the fifth tree and 2 to the left counting the tack shooters there’s one upgraded an extra time, just felt like pointing it out
"I don't know what im doing and i don't care" beyond based, i love your content sir
I think middle path sub would've probably done more damage, sub commander gives a 2x damage and pierce buff to every sub in its radius (every sub on screen with the monkey knowledge) so its the same as having 1 sub commander and a tier 4 army while middle path not only has the ballistic missiles for group damage but also has an ability that does huge splash and single target damage. To top it all off multiple preemptive strikes would have destroyed everything up to non-fortified BADS. A big thing to note is that ceramic bloons past round 80 will always have the same health no matter what round you're on. only moab health scales with rounds
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