Abkhazia: Russian or Georgian? I ARTE.tv Documentary
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- The self-proclaimed republic of Abkhazia, separating from Georgia in the early 1990s, is a tiny state on the Black Sea recognised by only a handful of states.
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how dare you to question that? 60 k georgians died defending and 400k were left without homes. that was a genocide of Georgian people
Colonizers fleeing on their own volition is not a genocide. Ethnic cleansing may be applied, but the only genocide that happened in Abkhazia happened towards Abkhaz people in the 19th century.
How about this, how about you simply join together and create an alliance. You are stronger together than apart. Kinda of dumb, cultures so similar fighting. Why?
@@sonofalbi9801 And who exactly orchestrated the genocide of Abkhazians and Circassians in 19th century? Hint: some people from the north.
@@khvichakuprashvili6338 Who was allied with the people who organized the genocide, and who colonized the lands after the genocide?
@@sonofalbi9801 Armenians. They were strong allies of Russia and participated in settling historical Caucasian lands when Muslims were sent to Ottoman Empire, including other parts of Georgia, like Samtskhe-Javakheti or Tao-Klarjeti. Armenians being Russian allies were one of the main reasons why Turks organized genocide against them at the end of the WW1. Btw small part of Abkhazian refugees was sheltered by Muslim Georgians in Adjara after their ship wrecked or something and couldn't continue the voyage. Their descendants still live there. Georgians revolted several times themselves against Russian rule between 1800 and 1860's don't blame Georgians with allying Russians, it's just hilarious, Georgians wouldn't even be 5% of the Army who fought against Caucasians. Likewise, some North Caucasians participated in putting down uprisings in other parts of Georgia but it doesn't mean, let's say Ingush people allied with Russians against Georgians. As for colonizing, the land was empty and better settle historical Georgian lands with Georgians from neighboring provinces than completely turn it into a Russian land like Ubykh or other Circassian lands. Greeks, Russians, Armenians and others migrated to Abkhazia and settled there, the territory was still controlled by the Russian empire and they had no privileges for Georgians whatsoever. It was just the case of the climate, Russians couldn't survive subtropical climate of Abkhazia while Georgians already living there and nearby could.
As we mentioned Ubykhs, it's important to point out that Sochi was also historically part of Abkhazia but you don't seem to claim it today, I wonder why? On the other hand, Georgians fought fiercely with Abkhazians in 1918-21 against Russians to retain westernmost part of what is now Gagra and Pitsunda areas.
Russian language, Russian money, Russian people, Russian soldiers, Russian pensions. What a vibrantly independent identity! But they love free Georgian healthcare and universities… such a sad situation!
Ye❤ just bastards
So Georgia offers free healthcare and then complains when they use it? Clearly just a way to coerce them to join Georgian society
Because it’s georgia and it is a beautiful place that now looks like garbage bc of russia
They are proud beggers lols
Exactly , their so called "inderpendence" is so funny,
They have nothing by their own, no military, no currency, no economic, no medicine. Using Russian Ruble and rushing to Georgia to get medical care, living in the stolen houses from Georgians and after that consider themselves as "inderpendent". What a nonsense 😂
Abkhazia is part of Georgia, why you don't mention that these abandoned buildings belong to ethnical Georgians, they were dislocated after ethical cleaning.
Ну так поезжай посмотри какая там Грузия
Apsua is Apsua itself. Russia is a strategic ally to keep Abkhaz state in existence, but Russian Empire had committed unforgivable genocide against Abkhaz & Circassian people.
"we don't depend on anybody" lol... yea what about Russia?
Just like Georgia that begs EU to take them in lol
@@Yu-hx5joyou freely enter the EU at least... and you can even leave... meanwhile with russia they just come to annex you and you have to wait untill they periodicaly collapse to exit...
@@Yu-hx5jo EU is our place, russia is a terrorist state and we don't want them
@@Yu-hx5jo With Russia constantly on their backs, Armenia and Azerbaijan fighting eachother, and still grappling with the effects of the 90’s and 2008 it would be stupid not to. Also, they were denied from NATO in 2008. It is the least the EU can do after they abandoned them.
Relying on Russia however, as they *obviously* do, is a very bad omen. (Abkhazia is basically the same thing that happened in “South Ossetia” , Crimea, and now the rest of Ukraine. And it’s mind blowing how many people are oblivious).
@@aperson6799 You do know that just like Russia intimidates Georgia, the USA and the West at large also do same sht in Asia and Africa and South America. Georgia is not the only "innocent" country (that by the way participated in the illegal invasion of Iraq) that's why I have no feeling for Georgians losing their own territory when they themselves shamelessly support Western /and American Imperialism in other countries.
300 000 Georgians will be back to Abkhazia soon. Abkhazeti is a part of Georgia!
Where is the evidence that 300k Georgians lived in Abkhazia right up to the civil war?
@@againstviralmisinformation510This happened 30 years ago, not 30 years of talent, many of them are only 40 years old
@@K.K648 yea but it was not 300,000. The Georgian population was less than that
@@K.K648 That's what Russians do - they evict hundreds of thousands of people from their homes, kill them, organize conflicts, and then wonder - why does everyone hate us?
@@againstviralmisinformation510 Don't worry, Russians evicted 240,000 Crimean Tatars in 1944, but they multiplied in several decades and still managed to return to their homeland.
today Abkhazia is ethnically mixed with the native Abkhaz & Armenians forming the majority with smaller Russian and Georgian groups . there used to be German & Estonian communities and a large Greek one to all so a few Jews . But that is mostly all gone now.
the 25 years old girl speaks russian better than her own monther tongue then says that we are not russian, makes me laugh, not only she's definitely a lot more russian than abkhazian, she and their society in general have a russo-soviet mentality. they are literally many would call russia.
@@arshamex7725 I'm not sure how do know you she better speaks Russian than Abkhazian. Also, the language you speak doesn't necessarily defines your nationality, especially if you leave in the shadow of a dominating empire and used to be a part of the Soviet Union. I bet lots of Kazakhs or other former Soviet republics speak perfect Russian, that doesn't make them Russians. Let her decide if she feels Russian or Abkhazian.
You know, there are more and more people in the world that are bilingual. They speak two, some maybe more, languages on the level of its being their mother tongue. And again, there are Americans who speak only Spanish. So I'm not buying your way of thinking.
as a georgian it makes me sad knowing a chunk of georgia got taken away by russia and disguised as an independent country same as south osseatia, simply looking at the map you can obviously tell both of them fit in like puzzle pieces. in different regions of georgia some have each of their own tongue but that dosent make them independent so i wish it comes back to us someday..
Apkazia was and will be Georgian part.they Apsni and Russian occupied separatist troops.
@@malgorzataojoj4256 that girl can speak any language she likes and can decide to be russian, Australian or even Vanuatuan )) but Abkhazia has always been and will be GEORGIA!
Abkhazia has always been a part of Georgia. Just look at any historical map. These people are delusional and believe the Russian propaganda. That's why only several countries like 'Nauru' recognize it as an independent nation. (These nations just get paid for recognizing 'countries' like Abkhazia)
Ukraine was always part of Russia time for annexation
Abkhazia is russia
@@ste9856No, Abkazia is and will always be Georgia! Look at Georgian maps, there is was and will be always Abkhazia!
Abkazia is Georgia forever 🇬🇪❤🇬🇪❤
@@ste9856 Russia just stole Abkhazia and Osseti. Everyone know it, even Russians and people who were born in Abkhazia and Osseti.
that is beautifull land of georgia !
Georgia also called Georgian SSR ( Soviet Georgia) it's a beautiful land & republic of the beautiful most greatest almighty Soviet Union ( USSR). HUUUUUURRRRRAAAAAA ❤❤❤❤💪💪💪.
@@Black_berry894 georgia is older than soviet union💀
@@The.andrwbrn Georgian Empire. Yes I know.
@@Black_berry894 იოცნებეთ ღრუსებმა. იმდენად ცარიელი ქვეყანა გაქვთ რომ არც კულტურა გაგაჩნიათ არც გასტრონომია და მედვედევი უკვე ქართულ სამზარეულოსაც ითვისებს ტერიტორიებთან ერთად. როგირ ხართ ასეთი განუვითარებლები?!🤌
Georgia is part of the Soviet Union
1989 census
Georgian population in Abkhazia: 239,872
Abkhaz population in Abkhazia: 93,267
War in 1992-1993
2011 census
Georgian population: 46,347
Abkhaz population: 122,069
Any questions?
Грузины заселились в Абхазию только после депортации 80% Абхазов в Турцию, на их земли и в их дома. До этого Грузин здесь небыло.
N1. There were georgians although they were not majority. Who were megrels then? N2. Georgians didn't kick abkhaz from there homes, it was russia which happens to be beloved partner of abkhazia today 🙃. There is plenty of evidence that georgian population in samurzakano, as well as georgian aristocracy was asking abkhaz to stay and not go to turkey because it was better to stay at home, even under russian occupation than under ottomans. N3. How the hell does what happened 150 years ago justify ethnic cleansing today? What a sick person should one be to believe that you can kick whole ethnicity out from their homes, because 150 years ago, when 80 of modern states didn't even exist, they were not majority. So native australians or native new Zealand's should ethnically cleans modern population of european descent?
@@papunajilavdari3072 Во время войны России с Кавказом, Грузия являлось опорой России. Десятки Грузинских отрядов участвовали в войне против Горцев. Вот почему после войны было разрешено заселение Абхазии Грузинами.
Грузинами во главе с Берия была также проведена репрессия против Абхазов в 34-52 годах 20 века. (Закрытие Абхазских школ, расстрелял этнических Абхазов, смена название городов, с Абхазского на Грузинский лад, и др.) В войне 92-93 годов также которая была начата напрямую Грузинами, был не что иное как геноцид Абхазов. 80% всех погибших солдат являются Абхазами. Сравни общее число Абхазов и Грузин. У кого больше потери???
И ты после всего этого хочешь сказать о потерях Грузин в войне 93 годов??В войне которую сами Грузины начали??? В войне которая является виновником только Грузия. Грузия является виновником геноцида Абхазов и Осетин. За всё это и должны отвечать Грузины.
1. Georgian two kingdoms (Imereti and Kartl-Kakheti) were forcefully occupied by russian empire prior to their campaign against northern cuacasus. The reason why some (and very minor number) of georgians fought alongside russians against abkhaz uprising was that abkhaz allied with ottoman turkey, country that brutalized and enslaved western georgia for 3 hundred years. Even than, fighting against uprising doesn't meen kicking people from homes. Georgians had nothing to do with Russia forcing muslim population of abkhazia out of their land, we have ottoman documents in which part of muhajirs had georgian surnames and were designated as Lazi (because megrels and Laz have almost the same language. Most of the Georgians who settled in central abkhazia, were already living in samurzakano, which was itself part of abkhazia, plus, if you have any idea what feudal system means it should be clear thar nobody asked them weather they wanted or not to settle there, so what kind of gift are we even talking about. Russia needed christian population in abkhazia to protect their imperial interests.
2. One has to have nerve to say that psycho murderers like Beria and Stalin had anything to do with Georgia except for their birthplaces. Georgia was the last nation in the caucasus standing against bolsheviks while you're beloved Lakoba was leading russians in his motherland. Stalinist regime killed and sent to Siberia more Georgians than any other people in the south caucasus. It is a total madness to identify Georgian nation to Stalinist regime. Would you say that it was Georgia who won the World war 2?
3. Tengiz Kitovani who decided personally, against directives of Georgian officials, to march to abkhazia first started civil war in tbilisi and did exactly the same there what he was doing in Abkhazia. Both him and Mkhedrioni bandits were as hated by most of the Georgians as they were by abkhaz. Georgian population of Abkhazia had literally nothing to do with the starting of the war and they were totally unjustly punished by the abkhaz sadists, who now are recognized as national heroes in abkhazia.
4. Even if nothing i have written was true, it still doesn't justify the worst war crime which is ethnic cleansing, no matter how much you try. if Ukraine starts just massacring and forcing russian population from their homes, this will be a crime against humanity, no matter who started the actual conflict.
@@papunajilavdari3072 Во первых не каких этнических чисток небыло, была война. В которой на прямую виновата Грузия. Ты тут назвала Берия Сталин Китовани мхидриони они все были Грузинами а не Узбеками, и они действовали не одни, потому что всё окружения у Берия Китовани были Грузины. Если в 40 годах города Абхазии переименовали на Грузинский лад, вы хотите сказать что это не было политика Грузин??? Почему переводили школы на Грузинский язык а не на Русский???? Это всё и есть геноцид Абхазов и Осетин. Ваша поколение за это сейчас расплачиваеться. Грузия как страна на Абхазию не имеет не каких прав юридических и уж тем более моральных. Грузия сейчас всего лишь инструмент Запада против России и всё. Взамен Грузия пытается скрыть свой преступление от мира и выставить себя жертвой. Недоразвитое общество.
The UN General Assembly at the 77th session for the 16th time adopted a resolution recognizing the right of all Georgian refugees and internally displaced persons (IDPs) to return to Abkhazia and Samachablo. The official title of the resolution is “The situation of internally displaced persons and refugees from Abkhazia, Georgia, and the Tskhinvali region/South Ossetia, Georgia”.
The document was co-sponsored this year by 63 countries (last year - 61). This year, the document was supported by 100 countries - this is the largest support for Georgia since 2008, when the resolution was first submitted to the General Assembly. Azerbaijan and Türkiye also supported the resolution.
Armenia did not take part in the voting this year either. For the 16th time, there is no support for Armenia in the UN for Georgian refugees! For many years, Yerevan has been “against” the return of Georgian refugees for many years. And, in fact, even today it maintains this position, continuing to support separatism, but does not vote in sync with the Russian Federation solely as part of the “change of ally” from Russia to the countries of the West.
A total of 59 states abstained from voting for the resolution. Laos and Vietnam, who voted last year against the return of Georgian refugees, did not take part in the voting this year.
Recall that in 2022, 95 countries supported the resolution, 12 were against, 56 abstained. Armenia did not vote. In previous years, the dynamics of voting was as follows:
• In 2020, 84 countries supported the resolution, 13 were against, 78 abstained, Armenia did not vote;
• In 2019, 79 countries supported the resolution, 15 opposed, and 57 abstained. Armenia - did not vote;
• In 2018, 81 countries supported the resolution, 16 opposed, and 62 abstained. Armenia voted against the return of Georgian refugees, despite the fact that the current Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan had come to power in Yerevan by that time;
• In 2017, 80 countries supported the resolution, 14 opposed, 61 abstained Armenia voted against;
• In 2016, 76 countries voted in favor of the resolution on the return of Georgian refugees, 15 voted against, 64 abstained, Armenia voted against;
• In 2015, 75 countries were in favor of the resolution, 16 were against, 78 abstained. Armenia voted against;
• In 2014, 69 countries voted in favor of the resolution on the return of Georgian refugees, 13 countries voted against and 79 countries abstained. Armenia voted against;
• In 2013, 62 countries voted in favor of the resolution on the return of Georgian refugees. 16 countries were against, 84 states abstained. Armenia voted against.
• In 2012, 60 countries voted for the return of Georgian refugees. There were 15 states against and 82 abstentions. Armenia voted against.
• In 2011, 57 countries supported the resolution, 13 countries opposed and 74 abstained. Armenia voted against.
• In 2010, the resolution was supported by 50 countries, opposed by 17 countries; 86 States abstained. Armenia voted against.
• In 2009, 48 countries voted in favor of the resolution, 19 voted against; abstained - 78; Armenia voted against.
• In 2008, only 14 countries supported the resolution on the return of Georgian refugees (that year only to Abkhazia, since the vote was taken before the August 2008 conflict), 11 states voted against and 105 abstained. Armenia voted against.
the UN really has no legitimacy in these matters they are simply rubber stamping decisions made by those communist dictators when they invented the USSR and all its borders . just look at how the UN sold out the Indigenous Armenians in NK to the Azeris = total ethnically cleansed and what did the UN do ??? nothing good .
i am georgian, and have armenian very good brothers but its fact they are slanders. not all is bad !
funny how Russia is the only european country that managed to keep its colonial empire, just by naming it USSR and then Russian "federation" instead of russian colonial empire... but it's always like this with Russia they are 100 years late compared to western europe... si yea time has come for them to learn the lessons of WWII and the decolonisation...100 years late.
And yet Russia is more of a peaceful force in the world than the Georgia that participated in the illegal invasion of Iraq alongside the USA. Honestly Georgia and Ukraine DESERVED for what they did.
@@Yu-hx5jo lol you are a joke
Maybe (!) you re right about Russia but how about France? How about the United Kingdom? The USA also rule an Empire....
@@nino71 france and the uk lost their colonial empire after the second world war, just like any european country exepted for russia, who just renamed it ussr...russia is always 100 years in late.. they will learn in the coming few years what the other did learn at wwII. For the US i don't see them planting their flag on territories of other and calling it usa... they are a military and economic superpower and their behavior as some imperialistic traits, but they are not a colonial entity...
@@voyagein2thecoreofthenight700 whatever
afkhazia, georgia !!! 🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪
Your from abkasia
Забавно,одна наша марионетка обсуждает являеются ли земли другой нашей марионетки по праву из
Not Russian and Not Georgian. Abkhazia is Apsny, a native peoples of the Caucasus since time immemorial; Abkhazian language and culture is unique and occurs nowhere else in the world, except for diasporas.
Sadly that identity might come to an end as Abkhazia in the near future is gonna get fully annexed by Russia and assimilated
It is absolutely true that they have their own ethnos, however, as for Abkhazia, it always belonged to the Kingdom of Georgia, what is more, there lived Georgians, whose name was Abkhazians (like Georgians living in other parts: Imeretianss, Magrelians, Svans, etc.) Apsuas lived together with Abkhazians (Georgians), They were never in the majority. Their massive settlement was started by the bastard Russian Empire, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia wanted to somehow maintain power in the South Caucasus, guess what happened? They used the Apsuas for that, who are in the minority, to start riots As if the Georgians were oppressing them and they succeeded. Today, the Apsu of North Caucasian origin call themselves Abkhazians and think that the territory is theirs.this is true,Everything else is a fairy tale invented by Russia.
@@ShtoraMorkn1121 Apsny is indigenous just like Armenia has been indigenous to the Caucasus since time immemorial. These peoples have existed there even before the establishment of Russia for thousands of years. Abkhazia is a distinct nation from Georgia as Armenia is from Azerbaijian. The people of Apsny have the right to sovereignty under the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.
FALSE Abkhazians are part of kartvelian tribes ( Svan, Mingrellian, etc...) They just have different language,
@@Stranger21300 Dude you didn't understand what I wrote, I also say that the Georgians who lived there were called Abkhazians, but today those who live there are taking our territory from us, they call themselves Abkhazians, they are not Abkhazians, they are people of northern descent(adyghea)who with the help of Russians drove out the real Abkhazians (Georgians) from there.
Abkhazia and samachablo are GEORGIA 🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪
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Georgia is still USSR
🤍❤️🤍❤️🤍🦾
@@againstviralmisinformation510 USSR fell apart because your moron Gorbachev tried to break the republics apart and caused ethnic conflicts. Now you know what might happen after trying to downsize Ukraine.
GEORGIA
Incredibly disingenuous video, completely emitting that those 200 K refugees were Georgian. And that 50K Georgians who live in Abkhazia live in terror, and under de facto Abkhazian law, they are not considered to be under the protection of civil and human law. They completely ignore that Abkhazian side violated a ceasefire on 3 separate occasions, most notably at Sokhumi, when Abkhazians attacked civilians. Or how about when only 15% of Abkhazian army was made up of Abkhaz. The rest were Russia or North Caucasian mercenaries.
This video tries to portray Abkhazia as a victim who is caught between Georgia and Russia, but the reality is that Abkhazia ethnically cleansed 200 000 Georgian people from their historic homeland, massacred tens of thousands of innocents with the help of Russia, became a Russia vassal and continues its attempt to ethnically erase the remaining 50 000 Georgians.
This video is awful, and I feel ashamed for whoever wrote this. because it has a very clear anti-Georgian bias and purpose scews facts to protect their agenda.
Не ври. 90% погибших были Абхазы, и Армия состояла на 80-90% из Абхазов. Смотри статистику.
И Грузины заселились в Абхазию только после депортации Абхазов в 19 веке в Турцию. В их дома и земли заселились Грузины. До этого Грузины не жили в Абхазии.
@@AdamIPA Which statistic? Every single study done on the subject by independent non-biased obserbervers said that only 15% were actually Abkhaz. The rest were foreigners.
@@bruh87877 Я приглашаю тебя в Абхазию, я тебя встречу и ты сам всё увидишь. В каждом Абхазском селе стоит памятник с именами погибших. И не нужно будет тебе больше не какую экспертизу, ты сам своими глазами увидишь.
@@AdamIPA ❤
What is the title of the video ?
Life lesson: If Russian tells you something just reverse it to find out truth. Russians say Georgians made genocide for Abkhazians? there's countless pictures of shot Georgian non combatants in Abkhazia. But you will not find any mass shootings of Abkhazians. those who didn't leave were also shot. note that forcible removal of people from region by their ethnicity (300k Georgians left Abkhazia) is also genocide. Russians call Georgians fascists? Georgian Person (even if they have Russian passport) cannot enter Abkhazia (If their family name ends with "shvili", "dze", "iani"). Who discriminates people by their ethnicity? Fascists. Now that the whole world found out who Russia truly is, its only matter of time before Georgians will be able to return to their homes.
And you forgot abouth the part where Georgian ethnonationalists basicly provoked the war by declaring that they are making georgian ethnostate and if you don like it - leave. They started an ethnic war and lost it. Abkhazian ethnonationslists just used a situation in their favor. Dosent justify ethnic cleansings though. Simple as it is.
@@vinesgg3578 there is as much proof for that as for you not being a dumbass who falls for Russian propaganda.
@@vinesgg3578 also there are more than abkhazians and georgians in Georgia including armenians and azeris. if that was true why was there no war between them too?
@@georgerukhadze9164 georgia quickly fell into chaos with its own civil war and conflict with osetians. Russians actualy evacuated president of georgia from Suhumi to prevent total anarchy. If not for russian intervention abkhaz would invade the core territories of georgia. Azeri and Armenian are expats in georgia they have their own ethnostates really near it, and abkhaz in their mind fought a war for their lands, forming their nation.
@@vinesgg3578 "And you forgot abouth the part where Georgian ethnonationalists basicly provoked the war by declaring that they are making georgian ethnostate and if you don like it - leave" I need source for this
Georgia🇬🇪
Very unusual report about situation, and what about Georgians 10:36 who had to leave the region? 🙄🙄🙄
240000 left Russians left the Georgian region too
Russians don't care about Georgians, Abkhazians don't care about Georgian refugees too, for them we are colonizers and we deserved to be kicked out from really the land of our ancestors, now they decide without us where Abkhazia will be, of course with the help of Russia, that's why Russia is an occupier, it has troops on our internationally recognized territories and doesn't allow us to return.
@@gigisonishvili7146 You just told us, if Georgians are not care, they have to be kicked out, Is it right? Your nationalism is your problem, why you started that war.
@@Mr1234543211 Nobody forced Russians to leave Georgia, Today thousands of Russians run from Russia in Georgia and live there, while Georgians can't enter Abkhazia or Russia
@@G-NAROZA You did not forced, but told You gonna kill them, and forced that region to the body brotherhood war, and now you are telling us you did nothing. Russian tourists, who came to Georgia are political tourists
It’s basically a Georgian region controlled by Russia
No it's own tribal region. However they share more in common with Georgia than they do with Russia
Russia just learned how they could weaken Georgia through Dividing
Abkhazia is Georgia
Georgia is Abkhazia
Many in Abkhazia want to have their cake and eat it too.
abkhazia is georgia region
Вам в 2008 году объяснили чё почём, Саакашвили галстук съел в подтверждение.
@user-qu7yo4px3u რუსებს, ეხლა აგიხსნიან უკრაინელები და იქ მებრძოლი ქართველები, სადაა რუსების ადგილი. იქნებ თქვენი ტერიტორიაც ვერ დაიცვათ დაშლისგან
@@user-qu7yo4px3u сколько свиней
@@user-qu7yo4px3u English?
Abkhazia is it Abkhazia. Georgia is State of USA
It was russia who started this war and start genocide of georgian people and then russia "ended" the war, it's a same what's happening now in ukraine
And what do you mean by "georgian can take advantage", it' same if you say the ukraine can take advantage and return crimea or dinbass region, abkhazia and samachablo (aka "south osetia") is georgia, and this people aren't abkhazians they called themselves that, they're aphsuas, stalin settled them there and after THEY took advantage and start separatists movement behind georgians back with help and provocation from russia so please check your facts before you make videos on sensetive topics like this
so as a person holding a western passport, are u currently able to go to abkhazia?
I don't know from where you are, but my coutry alow it. You just have to apply for the visa if you are going there from Georgia. Remember, if you are to go to Abkhazia, you have to leave the same way you came in.
Abkhazia and Samachablo Is Georgia always was and always will be no matter what 🇬🇪☦️❤️
Cap
@@YouMadBro514 ur life is a cap. abkhazia and samachablo (not south ossetia ) was always part of georgia . more than half of population in abkhazia were georgians and when they got kicked out by abkhazians they tortured so many innocent people mostly children , woman , priests. separatists where playng football with dead georgians heads and you call them heroes now . take a look at some citys in georgia like tbilisi , qutaisi , batumi and take a look at sokhumi wich has freeze in time since the war . russia is doing nothing for you and you will be never an independent country .
On June 5, 2023, the following announcement was circulated on Armenian social networks:
“The Armenian community in Georgia informs that tomorrow, June 6, at 16:00, a rally in support of Artsakh will be held near the Armenian embassy at 4 Tetelashvili Street. 06/06/16:00. For information, about 4.5% of the total population of Georgia are Armenians. This is approximately 160 thousand people.
The extremist "Armenian Community of Georgia" again, violating the legislation of Georgia and inciting ethnic hatred, promotes separatism in Tbilisi. In the capital of the country affected by separatism and lost because of it 20% of the territory and tens of thousands of lives.
There is no doubt that during their action, Armenian nationalists will once again talk about allegedly “120 thousand Armenians of Artsakh”. In reality, there are much fewer Armenians left in Azerbaijani Karabakh. There are not even 30,000 in Karabakh, and these 30,000 are in favor of separating Karabakh from Azerbaijan. Those. does this automatically mean that 160,000 Armenians in Georgia may also demand separation of the territory from Georgia? It is difficult to imagine what kind of chaos the Caucasus can expect. After all, “according to the logical desire” of the Armenian separatists, this means that they have the right to demand this wherever they want, contrary to common sense and international law.
Any propaganda of separatism on the territory of Georgia is in itself a threat to Georgian statehood, since the baton of separatism of the last century and the propaganda of separatism and terrorism are purposefully passed on to a new generation of possible future separatists! Especially if one takes into account the separatist sentiments among Armenians in the Georgian region of Samtskhe-Javakheti. Georgian historians have repeatedly noted in their national works and articles how, on the eve of the collapse of the USSR, at the congress of the Dashnaks, the “Jvakhk” direction of Armenian aggression and separatism lost only one vote to the “Artsakhkom”. Which eventually resulted in a bloody war, the occupation of the Azerbaijani Karabakh and the expulsion of over 1 million Azerbaijanis from there.
In Georgia, no one will forget those separate projects that were programmed and activated by the Kremlin and the Armenian lobby in Abkhazia and Samachablo. With their separatist propaganda, they deliberately sowed enmity between the Georgians and their fraternal Abkhaz and Ossetian peoples. During the war in Abkhazia, the same Armenian separatist fighters who fought in Karabakh against Azerbaijan fought and carried out ethnic cleansing against the peaceful Georgian population.
And it turns out that today Georgia tolerates the propaganda of separatism, which led to the tragedy of Abkhazia and Samachablo? Separatism is openly promoted in the capital of the country, which has lost tens of thousands of lives because of the separatists, including because of the Armenian militants! In the capital of the country, where over 300,000 refugees from Abkhazia still cannot return to their homes due to separatism.
It is the organization promoting separatism that advocates the separation of Samtskhe-Javakheti from Georgia and the illegal appropriation of Georgian shrines by Armenians! How is this even possible!? Moreover, the separatists of "Artsakh", who are going to be protected in the center, were the first to recognize the so-called. independence of the separatist regimes in Sukhumi and Tskhinvali.
The propaganda machine of separatism and extremism by the "Armenian community of Georgia" must be stopped. In Georgia, all peoples, all ethnic groups can and will coexist in peace and harmony, and this is facilitated by the Georgian Constitution of the country. The Armenian people must step back and tear off the ideology of the “sacrificial people”, from the extremist elements and propagandists of separatism once and for all in the Caucasus.
The earliest reliable records for Abkhazia are the Family Lists compiled in 1886, according to which the Sukhum Okrug (district of the Kutais Governorate of the Caucasus Viceroyalty of the Russian Empire) population was 68,773 of which 4,166 were Georgians (3,558 Mingrelians), 28,323 Abkhaz, 30,640 Samurzaq’anoans, 2,149 Greeks, 1,090 Armenians, 1,090 Russians, 637 Estonians.
You sound like Putin
Abkhazia it's Georgia 🇬🇪
Refugees from Abkhazia: Armenia stabbed Georgia in the back
In Tbilisi, IDPs from Abkhazia held a protest action in front of the Armenian embassy. The protesters expressed their protest against the obstacles caused by Armenia to the citizens of Georgia, who wish to return to their native lands, which are currently under occupation.
Indeed, Armenia is making an invaluable contribution to the continuation of the occupation by voting against the territorial integrity of Georgia in international organizations again and again.
Thus, in early June, Armenia for the tenth time said no to the return of Georgian refugees to the occupied territories of Abkhazia and the Tskhinvali region. The point is not only that this country itself is an aggressor and currently holds twenty percent of the territories of neighboring Azerbaijan under occupation. Voting "for", Yerevan would automatically vote against its own crimes.
In addition, Yerevan will not dare to vote against Russia. Yourself is more expensive.
But that's not all. There are also more weighty and promising goals that force Yerevan to substitute its neighbors.
The fact is that the Armenians shamelessly and openly lay claim to Abkhazia. Separatism in this region of Georgia is beneficial to the Armenians, who are gradually increasing their presence in this territory and occupying the houses of the expelled Georgians. Moreover, local Armenians are pursuing a policy against the return of the region to Georgia, as well as loudly declaring their "historical rights" to these lands. And they do not just declare, but take certain actions for this in their own style, inherent in Armenian nationalism.
As the "Kavkaz Plus" newspaper notes, in Abkhazia, the greatest cruelties against the civilian Georgian population were distinguished by Armenian militants - especially from the battalion named after. Bagramyan. More than 300,000 Georgian refugees left Abkhazia just to save themselves from the atrocities of the Armenian "Christian brothers". Many, unfortunately, did not manage to escape - they were killed or tortured by representatives of the "ancient" and "long-suffering people."
It should be noted that Armenia is a country that is always ready to stick a knife in the back of any of its neighbors or allies. Armenians do not know what friendship, good neighborliness and partnership are, seeing in each of these concepts only a way to snatch something and intrigue against someone. In words, being a friend of Georgia, Armenia in deeds constantly trips up its neighbor. And although nothing depends on her vote in the UN, in Georgia they clearly see who is a true friend and who is a turncoat.
It is clear that having the above two "weighty" reasons not to vote for the Georgian resolutions, Armenia will not go for it. Otherwise, she will have to admit the fact of her own occupation of the Azerbaijani territories. But you could have abstained, right?
So Yerevan found itself in a trap, which he lovingly and carefully built for himself.
Armenians staged a separatist farce in Abkhazia
Although it is believed that a separatist will always understand a separatist, but when Armenian nationalists are involved, the rules change.
Curious news was spread by KavkazPlus the other day. In unrecognized Abkhazia, a scandal erupted over a video that appeared on the Internet, in which an Armenian teenager happily tramples the flag of this separatist entity.
In this case, we are not talking about protecting the attribute of the so-called "statehood" of the separatist entity. In no case. This is a meaningless rag, no more legitimate than a rag in the form of the Armenian flag bitten off from the end, called the "NKR flag". It is interesting not that the Armenian defiled the Abkhaz attribute, but what followed. It's just a theater, not even a theater - a farce.
According to the Georgian edition, a scandal erupted. The Armenian community of Abkhazia tried to present the case in such a way that it was about one "renegade", and all of them, they say, are very fond of the Abkhazians and "tremblingly" refer to the symbol of this separatist sub-state, under which they fought together with the Abkhazians against Georgia.
Meetings were held in all Armenian schools. That Armenian was found (it was 15-year-old Hrachya Sarukhanyan) and forced on his knees to ask for forgiveness for his act. His father, Ashot Sarukhanyan, also asked for forgiveness for his son:
“I spoke with him, with my son ... And before that, of course, we talked ... I say: “Now I have to go out before the people and say a word for you. What did you - if you were there - say to them? He says, "Father, I would kneel." I can't justify it. Many people sitting here know me, they know my family. My own brother shed blood just like you. I apologize on behalf of my entire family, on behalf of my son. If you can, forgive him," Ashot Sarukhanyan said.
In general, the Armenians were seriously alarmed and were clearly afraid that this incident would make the Abkhazians think about what the Armenian community of Abkhazia is like, having seized the entire economy in the separatist territory into their own hands, and what can be expected from the Armenians in principle. Therefore, they acted out theatricality with "indignant renegades" and "apologies."
At the same time, the separatist media tried to "silence" the scandal - which is not surprising - almost all of them depend on Armenian funding. Well, for the time being, it is apparently not profitable for the Armenians to openly quarrel with the Abkhazians, writes KavkazPlus.
Analyzing the situation, the publication notes that the Armenian apologized even so theatrically, most likely, not only out of fear, but also under pressure from his community and the Armenian lobby, which today does not benefit from setting the Abkhaz ethnos against itself ahead of time. So far, Abkhazia is not completely under the control of the Armenians in all areas. But the fact that a teenager has such an attitude towards the Abkhazian separatist symbols speaks of how adult Armenians really relate to the Abkhazians. It's just that adults hold back their emotions and do not show their deep contempt for the Abkhaz separatist symbols and disdain for the Abkhaz themselves. And the teenager took and showed what his relatives and friends were talking about ...
The experience of history shows that it is very close from desecration of symbols to ethnic cleansing and genocide. Recall that the Armenian terrorists are very fond of trampling on the Azerbaijani flag. They love and loved to pose against the backdrop of the desecrated symbols of the Azerbaijani state. This has already resulted in the loss of territories for the Azerbaijani people, the killing of thousands of Azerbaijanis and the expulsion of over 1 million people from the occupied Karabakh and over 200 thousand from the Republic of Armenia.
It is naive to think that at a critical moment the Armenian terrorists will behave more generously towards the Abkhazians. Moreover, they almost openly claim their lands, emphasizes KavkazPlus.
The ingratitude of our neighbors is well known. And Armenian nationalists usually respond to a good attitude with terror and meanness. It just so happened.
Recall that at the end of last year, the Armenians began to talk openly about the annexation of Abkhazia to Armenia. So far, however, at an unofficial level, in social networks. However, statements like "Abkhazia is an Armenian land", "we won this war" speak for themselves. This is a serious signal, because the Armenians today are the second largest ethnic group in the separatist entity, and in the once allied resorts of Sukhumi and Gagra, of course, they make up the vast majority. Still would. It is quite expected that the appetites of the Armenians increased sharply after this territory was temporarily not controlled by Tbilisi.
So a separatist will not always understand a separatist. And it is no coincidence that the members of the so-called "parliament" of Abkhazia responded very specifically to the calls of their Armenian colleagues to assist in the opening of the railway: first you recognize the "independence" of Abkhazia, and then we'll talk ...
Needless to say, this is exactly the condition that Yerevan will not be able to fulfill in any way.
I'm glad someone saw the true faces of Armenians. Do we have to get hurt to be fair? Westerners are very hypocritical. When I tell them the truth, they keep lying. Armenians do not have a state. They occupied Turkish lands together with the Russians. Likewise, they expanded this occupation. Eventually this came to an end. Now it is time to enter Irevan and let the Turks return. Armenians united with the Russians, expelled the people from the regions they occupied and settled in their places. Just like in Armenia. Circassia, Abkhazia, Meskhetian and Karabakh are the invaders. And I hope that one day the native Turks will return to the Meskhetian(Ahıska-Ahılkelek) region.
Georgian of course 🇬🇪💪🤝 ❤
The commentator is wrong at the end when he says that Russia could annex Abkazia. It is not making sense because Russia already have the control of the place and everybody seems to be happy in Abkazia about the present situation. Abkazia need a big brother. There is no way out bout that. The video says nothing about the political tension in Georgia wich can have an effect over Abkazia.
if these people seemed happy to you, we have a very different idea of what happiness is
So go for it: what do you mean exctaly ?@@kaladze93
Abkhazia is Georgia, more than 50 percent of population had to leave and only Russian loyal separatists and Russian troops were left
Abkhazia is Abkhazia.
@@cerberus4969 Abkhazia was a part of Georgia almost 26 century what about you talking do you history?
@@elmasy585 so what, ukraine and belarus were part of Russia, but it don't change the fact that they can be independent, abkhazians choose to be independent.
@@cerberus4969 abkhazians came from Iran and we will give them land becouse they want independent? For what then give independent Ossetian who came in Georgia also give land for Armenians who living in Georgia give a land for azerbaijan people Turkish people Russians and more. Where is a logic? I know where is a logic more than your argument give independent Chechnya russians did it genocide against Chechen people without doubt more than 500.000 children and civilian dead look let's talk about ingushetia they killed this race also let's talk other north Caucasus countries why Russian did not give independent? Be loyal number one is loyality remember.
@@cerberus4969 Abkhazians can't choose anything, majority of Abkhazian population was forced to leave Abkhazia
Georgian. Slava Ukraina.
FY
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@@Mr1234543211 FY
Yes, Abkhazia part of Georgia 🇬🇪
Yes Georgia is Georgian SSR ( Soviet Georgia) a Republic of the most greatest almighty Soviet Union ( USSR) HUUUUUURRRRRAAAAAA ❤❤💪💪💪.
No, it’s not.
I know you have to hang on to this nonsense because your country got its ass kicked many times on this issue, but you’ll be happier when you accept reality
@@Black_berry894 No comment, Abkhazia is Georgia 🇬🇪🇬🇪!!!!!!!!!!
@@gogitakukava3800 Well in that case George is republic of the Soviet Union ( USSR) as Georgian SSR ( Soviet Georgia). HUUUUUURRRRRAAAAAA long live the most greatest almighty Soviet Union ( USSR).
@@eriknervik9003Just like you & your nonsense I'm not happy to accept you reality.
Abxazia is territory part of georgia. Sokumi is heart of georgia. ❤❤❤
Do you want to get your ass beat again? 😁
Then in that case Georgia is Georgian SSR ( Soviet Georgia) a Republic of the most greatest almighty Soviet Union ( USSR) HUUUUUURRRRRAAAAAA ❤❤❤❤ 💪💪💪💪💪.
No ,abkhazia is an country ,is independent
You wouldn't understand
Its independent
In historical context, it is essential to acknowledge that the individuals currently claiming to be Abkhazians are, in fact, Apsua people. This distinction stems from their migration to Georgia from the North Caucasus, an event known as "The Great Descent of the Mountain." The impetus for this migration was the Mongolians' arrival from the northeast. It is worth noting that a complete assimilation of the Abkhaz and Apsua people never occurred due to notable cultural differences.
Remarkably, accounts by Georgian historians from the 15th and 16th centuries shed light on the repercussions of this cultural divide. These historical records attest that valuable treasures and Christian icons, highly significant at the time, were transferred to other regions. The reason behind this relocation was the divergence in religious beliefs and cultural practices between the Apsua people (who had already emerged as a distinct group) and the local Georgians.
Supporting this notion, merchants utilizing maps from Venice during the same period consistently depict the city of Akua (known as Sukhumi in the Apsua language) situated on the northern side of the Caucasus Mountains, rather than its actual geographic location. This peculiarity can be attributed to the fact that the Apsua people referred to their capital city in the North Caucasus as Akua during that era.
As a historian, it is crucial to analyze these historical accounts and artifacts, considering their historical context and the cultural dynamics of the time. Such examination allows for a deeper understanding of the complex interplay between the Apsua, and Georgian communities, shedding light on the historical trajectories and cultural identities of these groups.
Ain't Georgian Russian
Historian from kfc? Abkhaz is abaz (abazgia) ,they were even mentioned as pagans who worship trees by antique historian. Abazgs and apsils are our ancestors, stop spreading fake “history”. Even Georgian historians are not supporting this nonsense
@@adamalikhan1357No.
Thank you for this. Unfortunately, I don't think Apsuas (present day "Abkhazians") are aware of their own history... Frankly, I think it is time they return to the North Caucasus
Abkhazia and Samachablo are Georgian territories occupied by Russia!
Georgia also called Georgian SSR ( Soviet Georgia) illegally break away from the most greatest almighty Soviet Union ( USSR).
Russia should leave Abkhazia and allow them to be independent
@@RomanII499 Abkhzians don't wants putin's army to leave. Because most of the Abkhzians beleve safe because of putin & his army.
@@RomanII499 Abkhzian is already independent.
@@Black_berry894 Safe 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Who is threatened with annexation today from RuZzia?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If anyone can tell me something about the colleges that teaches( literature ,fine arts, languages, medicine, islamic religion),mosques, churches, synagogues, airports, resturants, Hospitals, diamond mines, tv channels, hotels, football stadiums, newspapers and magazines, tv series, theatre, cinema, broadcast, climate, nature, native dialects, common food, folk clothes and music in Abkhazia or any other country in the world or any information in any field of knowledge or any thing in life I will be very happy and not forget his favor and ask him not to be late because I still wait
Abkhazia, this is Georgia, which was taken from us by Russia, and it will answer for it soon.
Georgia lost to Russia in 5 days hahahahahahahaha
Is russian language there official and many speak it?
this video is making the georgians look like the antagonists lmao.u said that the georgians were trying to impose authority in abhkazia.and the burning of that building marked a victory for the abhkazians.georgians were rightfully taking their lands back from separatists[planted by russia].and look at this thing now.the soviet union in almost every country created these autonomus republics in order if the soviet union collapses these countrys would have a hard time having authority in those regions.the same is happening in ukraine with donbass and lukhansk georgia with abhkazia and south ossetia.azerbaijan with nagorno karabakh tajikistan and kyrgistan.and even russia has some of these like chechnya and others.
And why is it that so-called "independent people" have russian passports and speak russian. Abkhazians go to Georgia for medical treatment, why? Whatever russia touches with his bloody hand everything is rotting. That's what happened to these people (and not only them).
Because with the help of Georgia, it is impossible for all citizens of Abkhazia to travel, study in other countries. They blocked the exit to the world, the lag of their opinion in the UN. How many more times will Georgians give the example of "we treat Abkhazians"? Disgusting, if you're so disgusted with it, forgive the government to close the border completely, don't blame people for just wanting to survive
They aren't recognized country so they need Russian passports for travel and they learn Russian for business.
@RomanII499 Oh, that's why they support russia's invasion of Ukraine 🤡
Apkazia is the Georgian part.
Abkhazia was and always will be Georgia!!🇬🇪🇬🇪❤️❤️
Поезжай посмотри ;)
Abkhazia belong to Georgia like Crimea belongs to Ukraine, Russia is a landgrabber that just wants to show its power that they can take everything they want.
It's not the same. Crimea is not a de facto state, Abkhazia is. You clearly don't know what youre talking about. Average georgian education fr.
Crimea belongs to Ottoman Turkiye
GREAT INFO
Such a great time to make proRussian content 👍🏻 great job.
top notch sarcasm👌
Slava Rossii and I’m not being sarcastic.
@@nuclear_addict lol, thanks for clarifying 😂 as if anyone cares
What really happened was that Majority of the population of Abkhazia were Georgians forming over 45% in 1989 and basically same as Russians(14%), Abkhazians(17%) and Armenians(14%) combined, but after the war and Genocide of Georgians by those 3 groups, Georgians who survived had to leave their homes and spread across rest of the Georgian regions. Currently Abkhazia might be occupied but not for a long. Economy of Abkhazia is Scrambled, life is shit there and people are basically starving. Even though things they did, Georgia still provides most of the electricity they use in their country and also Universal free public Healthcare of Georgia is still used by people living in Abkhazia and no one knows why Georgian government is not cutting all those benefits which should be provided to only Georgian taxpayers and not fucking orcas and murderers. As I said, not much is left for them, Georgian military is getting stronger day by day, Economy is rising, while Russia is going to collapse in the war with Ukraine and then we will take a Revenge.
Abkhazia is neither Georgian or Russian Abkhazia is Abkhazia
If Abkhazia and South Ossetia are being protected by Russia is it possible Russia is using the territories to ensure their business in Ukraine is completed? That land claims are to secure interests and not protect lives?
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Abkhazia is unrelated to Ukraine war.
Unrelated. Abkhazians regained their independence in 1993 from USSR and Georgia. Stalin/Dzugazhvili the Georgian Soviet dictator made them part of Georgia.
Joseph Stalin was a hand picked pawn. Anyone from the Caucasus thrusted into Kremlin business is begging not to be murdered. It happens to every leader in Russia who did not play the game of the fox. Foxes are clever and only want rabbits. They also hide in holes.
Abkhazia is Georgia. There will be no peace, nor war over until Russia and Russian-backed separatists leave our country. Ask the Karabakh separatists how those deals with Russia end. I recall fellow Abkhaz citizens of Georgia who were misled by these forces of evil to come to their minds because Georgia will restore its territorial unity and sovereignty eventually, one way or another.
You sound like Putin
😂
Please also talk about Circassia.
We have forwarded your suggestion to our editorial team.
@@artetvdocumentary I am a Circassian in diaspora, thanks a lot for your efforts!
Just ask yourselves: Does the name "Abkhazia" sounds like a Russian word?
It's "Apsny." The people as fierce as lions.
That's really funny how narrator manages to pronounce some "soki" for Sochi -- and this is even after Sochi Olympics!!! )))
Abxazia is Georgia 🇬🇪
Of course Abkhazia is a Georgia!!!🇬🇪
Russia is an OCCUPIER
You want to occupy Abkhazia. Abkhazians don’t want you there
Why the hell are my comments disappearing? Huh?
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@@artetvdocumentary And how did my comment violate your netiquette? I didn`t use a bad language or disrespect anyone.
Glory to Abkhazia.
glory to Ukraine and Georgia. Abkhazia ant south Ossetia is Georgia
@@gdbricklegend0936 ok
Lulling the patriots of Georgia, some Armenian figures recently justify the anti-Georgian actions of their fellow tribesmen by the fact that "Armenians are different." They say that the Armenian extremists of Abkhazia, who created the battalion named after Baghramyan, who killed and expelled the Georgian population, are “other” Armenians, not connected with the Armenians of Tbilisi and Samtskhe-Javakheti. But the "Javakh Armenians" (meaning extremists) are great "friends of Georgia", despite the obvious separatist and anti-Georgian sentiments. Like other separatists, they are “Artsakh”, whom, they say, the Georgians should help and “protect from genocide”.
However, the facts testify otherwise - the policy of the Armenian nationalists in different parts of not only Georgia, but throughout the globe is fully coordinated and coordinated from the same centers. And their main goal is to “cleanse” the territories that Armenian nationalists liked from people of non-Armenian origin.
In relation to the Georgian territories, the Armenian extremists of Abkhazia and Samtskhe-Javakheti initially acted in complete coordination. Moreover, it was the Armenian nationalists in Abkhazia who were the first to create illegal armed formations in order to prevent the “decrease in the share of Armenians” in Samtskhe-Javakheti by returning the indigenous population, including Muslim Georgians, to their homes. This is evidenced by the recently published memoirs of the famous Russian pro-Armenian journalist and writer Valeria Olyunina. She published on the Proza.Ru website her autobiographical story, dedicated specifically to the Abkhazian Armenians and their participation in the war against Georgia, “The Third Bullet. An episode of the Georgian-Abkhazian war" (proza.ru/2023/05/16/1140). There is a very interesting episode:
“... There were two large and equally influential communities in Abkhazia, which, to put it mildly, did not quite get along with each other. "Krunk" in Sukhumi, under the leadership of Vladislav Ardzinba's associate Albert Topolyan, was an authoritarian politicized structure. And the Gagrinskaya "Mashtots" under the leadership of Arsen Chakryan is more democratic and independent. Albert Topolyan continuously tried to crush the Gagrinskys under his "Krunk". This was both before the war and during the war.
Despite the fact that the battalion was created by the efforts of Albert Topolyan, the influence of the Mashtots functionaries in it was very strong. In fact, the battalion became the armed force of the Gagra district community. Mashtots activists tried their hand a couple of years before the war, of course, also under tragic circumstances.
There was a well-known episode in the history of the USSR, when Meskhetian Turks returned to Georgia from exile. They went through the Krasnodar Territory and Abkhazia. Here, on the border with Abkhazia, they were met by the armed Armenians of "Mashtots". The Turks then didn’t even go to Georgia, despite the arrival of units of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs…”
This passage completely exposes, firstly, the lie of the Armenian nationalists that, they say, the Abkhazian Armenian terrorist groups at first “did not even think” to participate in the separatist war, but then allegedly “forced” to join it, solely because of those who had in relation to Armenians "atrocities" of the Georgian army and armed formations. In reality, the Armenian nationalists created their illegal armed formations in Abkhazia, on the territory of Georgia long before the start of the separatist war. And even "competed" with each other in the dominance of these illegal paramilitaries in the region.
The Armenian gangs "Krunk" (in fact, a branch of the separatist Karabakh "Krunk") and "Mashtots" in Abkhazia were armed even before the Abkhazian separatists themselves began to arm themselves. And the Abkhazians, drugged by separatism, began to arm themselves precisely under the influence and according to the Armenian plans of inciting separatist conflicts, by analogy with the “Artsakh” one.
In addition, it should be taken into account that the Meskhetians themselves are an ethnic group of mixed Georgian-Turkic origin. Many Meskhetians are aware of their Georgian roots, consider themselves Muslim Georgians, and are no different from other Muslim Georgians, the Adjarians. It was these Meskhetians (who are aware of their Georgian origin) who first of all wanted to return to Georgia after the tragic events in Fergana.
The Georgian authorities then, despite the hysterical cries of the Armenian nationalists about the "Turkish threat", met them halfway, met and helped them settle in their native land, which the repatriates considered an integral part of United Georgia (unlike the Armenian nationalists, who consider Samtskhe-Javakheti "primordially Armenian "Javakhkom").
Obviously, it is not up to the Armenian nationalists to decide who lives on Georgian soil and who does not! In the case of the Meskhetian Turks, this issue can concern only the Georgian and Turkish peoples. What right do Armenian nationalists have to dispose of foreign land when they themselves settled on this land during the years of the Russian Empire, and in the case of Javakheti, where Muslim Georgians expelled by Russian colonialists to Turkey used to live?
Also, from the above passage from the story of Valeria Olyunina, it is clear that even then the USSR authorities patronized the Armenian nationalists. And instead of disarming illegal armed extremist formations that violate the rights of Soviet citizens to free movement across the territory of the USSR, they did not even allow parts of the internal troops of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs to disarm the presumptuous Armenian nationalists.
Adjarans are muslim georgians but meshketians are not
We’re independent but use russian money, russian army, russian pensions, russian language, russian tourists. So much for independence!
8:29 according to her every state/province/Oblasts/ any other administrative divisions must be a separate country which has its own culture or language, like as she mentioned Abkazia has its own culture and language that's why it must be separate country. According to her concept countries like mine Republic of India(Bharat) which has states, some states have similar culture and language and some are different from each other, so states which has its own culture and language must be an independent country. In the same way Russia consists of many Republics which is completely different from russian culture and language like for example Republic of Yakutia, Keralia Oblast, etc. Above mentioned must be independent according to her consists, russia must give independence to them. She and the peoples of Abkazia(who supports independence)deserve all those things like as she mentioned 'neither going to Russia nor west', no recognition.
Thank you for the video , I just wanted to say to all the people who is reading comments ,that Abkhazia is Abkhazia ,y’all can’t accept our history from our side( if you can’t do it ,go and read the history of our brothers -circassians ),you saying that a lot of Georgian lived in that place , they called Abkhazians “their brother” but then the war started they were killing “their brothers and sisters”,y’all saying that Russian supported Abkhazia ,but don’t wanna say that firstly they supported Georgians by guns and so on. All the Georgians that left Abkhazia crying about their old houses, and a lot of Abkhazians crying because of their dead sons and daughters, do you feel the differences? Nobody want war , in 2024 people still can’t accept that both side don’t like each other, even if Georgians “like us” they like us not as Abkhazians,but as Georgia citizens
Abkhazia is Abkhazia!
Annex of this region by the Russians and acknowledging the Abkhaz people in there, while investing a lot of money for tourists from all over would make a lot of sense woudnt it ? ? Its no like they re not being held alive by the russian while we speak.
სადამდე დავეცით ძმებო, ქართველებო და "აფხაზებო", არაფრით არ მესმის, არ მჯერა და ვერ წარმოვიდგენ რო თქვენს გულში ისე არ დევს საქართველოს სიყვარული როგორც ჩემში აფხაზეთის, ათასჯერ მიფიქრია ძილისწინ, რო ერთდღეს ყველა მოვიყრიდით თავს ჩვენს საერთო მიწაზე, ერთმანეთს გულში ჩავიკრავთ და გადავაყრით მიწას სამწუხარო წარსულს, აგვრია ბიჭებო რუსებმა და არც თქვენ ხართ დამოუკიდებლები და არც მე არ მინდა ისე მოვკვდე რო - ერთიანად და ძმებად არ ვიწოდებოდეთ... " ო, აფხაზეთო, ამორძალი ხარ, მკერდ მოჭრილი უსაქართველოდ..." და რო იცოდეთ ძმებო, სანამ დავითი ქუთაისში დადგამდა სამეფო ტახტს, მეათე საუკუნეში, ბაგრატ მესამემდეც და მერეც ერთიანი საქართველოს "დედაქალაქი" ტახტი სოხუმში, აფხაზეთში იდგა...მტრობა ადვილია ბიჭებო, ვაჟკაცობა გვმართებს, მოკვლა კიარაა რთული და არასწორი ცხოვრება, სიმართლისთვის თვალებში ჩახედვა და შეცდომების პატიება, შერიგება და ძმობაა ვაჟკაცობა, ამის გარეშე ნული ვართ ჩვენც და თქვენც...🤍😔 გეხუტუნეთ ყველას ვინც იგივეს განიცდით რასაც მე, შემოგევლეთ ქუთაისიდან სუყველას ბიჭებოც და გოგოებოც... ერთი ვართ რამდენიც არ უნდა უკუღმა გასწავლონ, რამდენი პროპაგანდაც არ უნდა გაწვეთონ გულში ჩაიხედეთ გულში❤❤🙌
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On June 5, 2023, the following announcement was circulated on Armenian social networks:
“The Armenian community in Georgia informs that tomorrow, June 6, at 16:00, a rally in support of Artsakh will be held near the Armenian embassy at 4 Tetelashvili Street. 06/06/16:00. For information, about 4.5% of the total population of Georgia are Armenians. This is approximately 160 thousand people.
The extremist "Armenian Community of Georgia" again, violating the legislation of Georgia and inciting ethnic hatred, promotes separatism in Tbilisi. In the capital of the country affected by separatism and lost because of it 20% of the territory and tens of thousands of lives.
There is no doubt that during their action, Armenian nationalists will once again talk about allegedly “120 thousand Armenians of Artsakh”. In reality, there are much fewer Armenians left in Azerbaijani Karabakh. There are not even 30,000 in Karabakh, and these 30,000 are in favor of separating Karabakh from Azerbaijan. Those. does this automatically mean that 160,000 Armenians in Georgia may also demand separation of the territory from Georgia? It is difficult to imagine what kind of chaos the Caucasus can expect. After all, “according to the logical desire” of the Armenian separatists, this means that they have the right to demand this wherever they want, contrary to common sense and international law.
Any propaganda of separatism on the territory of Georgia is in itself a threat to Georgian statehood, since the baton of separatism of the last century and the propaganda of separatism and terrorism are purposefully passed on to a new generation of possible future separatists! Especially if one takes into account the separatist sentiments among Armenians in the Georgian region of Samtskhe-Javakheti. Georgian historians have repeatedly noted in their national works and articles how, on the eve of the collapse of the USSR, at the congress of the Dashnaks, the “Jvakhk” direction of Armenian aggression and separatism lost only one vote to the “Artsakhkom”. Which eventually resulted in a bloody war, the occupation of the Azerbaijani Karabakh and the expulsion of over 1 million Azerbaijanis from there.
In Georgia, no one will forget those separate projects that were programmed and activated by the Kremlin and the Armenian lobby in Abkhazia and Samachablo. With their separatist propaganda, they deliberately sowed enmity between the Georgians and their fraternal Abkhaz and Ossetian peoples. During the war in Abkhazia, the same Armenian separatist fighters who fought in Karabakh against Azerbaijan fought and carried out ethnic cleansing against the peaceful Georgian population.
And it turns out that today Georgia tolerates the propaganda of separatism, which led to the tragedy of Abkhazia and Samachablo? Separatism is openly promoted in the capital of the country, which has lost tens of thousands of lives because of the separatists, including because of the Armenian militants! In the capital of the country, where over 300,000 refugees from Abkhazia still cannot return to their homes due to separatism.
It is the organization promoting separatism that advocates the separation of Samtskhe-Javakheti from Georgia and the illegal appropriation of Georgian shrines by Armenians! How is this even possible!? Moreover, the separatists of "Artsakh", who are going to be protected in the center, were the first to recognize the so-called. independence of the separatist regimes in Sukhumi and Tskhinvali.
The propaganda machine of separatism and extremism by the "Armenian community of Georgia" must be stopped. In Georgia, all peoples, all ethnic groups can and will coexist in peace and harmony, and this is facilitated by the Georgian Constitution of the country. The Armenian people must step back and tear off the ideology of the “sacrificial people”, from the extremist elements and propagandists of separatism once and for all in the Caucasus.
As Georgian I really feel sad that for more than 30 years Abkhazia is on a stand still, I feel for the residents I really do. Please understand one thing, we do not want and never wanted bloodshed, I believe one day we can sit down Georgians and Abkhazians without Russia and come to terms how to move on with our lives together just like we have done it for centuries.
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@@maniac7979 If you are Russian I have nothing to say to you, that is not your territory it never was, if you are Abkhazian read my comment once again, I never said we are going to take it from you by any force, we need to come to terms like civilised people, noone in Georgia wants another war, we consider you our brothers even if we had our differences in the past.
@@JonnyTheRevelatorда я русский,и я не знал что Абхазия не входила в состав СССР и российской империи, удивительно чему вас в школе учат,хотя это не так важно,гораздо важнее чьи эти территории сейчас,и они принадлежат России,хотя формально нет,но фактически именно Москва контролирует Абхазию,от экономики и армии,до пропаганды и культуры,и вопрос времени когда Россия официально присоеденит эти земли,вы и сами понимаете что время не на вашей стороне,чем больше пройдет лет,тем сильнее будет разрыв,а когда Россия аннексирует эти земли шансов у вас уже не будет,запад рано или поздно пойдет на восстановление отношений,слишком Россия важна,в отличии от Грузии которая де факто и так подчиняется России,помогает обходить санкции,арестовывает тех кто едет воевать за Украину,копирует законы России типо закона об иностранных агентах,хотя справедливости ради,у вас был шанс вернуть потерянные территории аналогично Аджарии,на с приходом Саакашвили и попыткой вернуть их силой вы навсегда из потеряли,а мы приобрели,и да я был в Абхазии,прекрасная природа,и люди вас там совсем не ждут
@@maniac7979 and you need new lands why? You have half of the globe and you do not know what to do with it. Abhkazia was georgia long before Russian emipre was expanded on south caucasus, why you do not take into account that period? why history begins when you take some land by force? if so half of your territories belong to Golden horde as well as Georgia it was under Mongolian rule for 200 years. Borders do not change when territoru is annexed. But I understand this is history your midget tells you, you have to believe. Btw what current Abkhazians think about your theory that it is Russia? I agree with every word you say about your intentions, we knew it long time ago that you do not care about small ethnic groups like you say, all you care is expansion. Although I really do not understand why the f*ck you want to restore empire? Why cannot you live in peace with your neighbours?
@@JonnyTheRevelator мы лишь берём то что может принадлежать нам,и легко интегрируется,то что было до,сейчас не имеет никакого значения,в мире действует право сильного,хочет Израиль Голанские высоты,значит забирает их,хочет США вторгнутся в Ирак вторгается,хочет Россия взять земли берет,да многие наши земли принадлежали ранее Монголии,пусть она их возьмёт если сможет,но естественно она ничтожна,и нет мы не хотим восстановить империю,мы берём территории с преимущественно русскоязычным населением,или близких к нему,например Азербайджан нам не нужен,как и большая часть центральной Азии,только то что легко интегрировать,и имеет значения, отношения с соседями либо уважают либо боятся,мы современем подружимся с соседями,но только на наших условиях,другого выбора у наших соседей просто нет,ну и да,мнение абхазцев никто спрашивать не будет,но если уж на то пошло,то они выберут Россию а не Грузию,это точно
Abkhazia and Georgia really don't understand what happened.
You understand that Russia divided you to weaken the other right?
For thousands years you respected each other.
Until the fall of the Soviet and the rise of Russia did all of a sudden a problem occurs
Abkhazia is Georgia -land of Kolkheti🇬🇪 Sokhumi-Dioskuria !🇬🇪
Abkhazia is not Georgia. Georgia is state of USA.
how's that? Georgia is much older than the American state.
The size of Abkhazia was used to proportionately judge the possibility of Circassia uniting and having to deal with sizable groups within its territory who also want to be recognized as independent. Balkars talk about Balkaria and the areas in Elbrus are Turkic. It means independence from Russia in the Northern Caucasus will happen when the Turkic peoples stop trusting the Circassians are not lazy and forgetful people. What needs to happen in Circassia is two fold. One, the Circassian language should be spoken by all residents, and two, they should also know English. Russian is not the dominantly spoken language here. It will make the country modern and bias toward Circassian mythologies naturally. Not all Circassians are fanatic Muslims. In fact I think most Adighas are syncretic.
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The joke is Black Russian. If Abkhazia needs to say Apsua loudly who is barking and who has a soul? Even dogs that have black coats wonder how stupid people can be? It is about age and level of education and not etiquette like you think a code requires. Abkhazia was liberated to laugh at the world.
0:31 in you dreams. Which independent country is governed by another state, which independent country has another country's currency?
Russia even controls your breathing.
4:06 this and many destroyed buildings are proof of the Russian occupation.
Abkhazia is Georgia!!
Russia should leave and Georgia should stop claiming Abkhazia. Its not Russia or Georgia, its Abkhazia
@@RomanII499 რომან, ერთი მაგალითი მითხარი, რაში მდგომარეობს აფხაზეთის დამოუკიდებლობა და სახელმწიფოებრიობა?!
1992-1993, 2008 წლების ომი რუსეთს იმისთვის არ დაუწყია, რომ შენ თავისუფალი იყო. აფხაზეთი და სამაჩაბლო ოკუპირებულია ღრუსეთის მიერ.
მთელი ამდენი წელი კიდე ვერ მიხვდით, რომ თქვენი “გადამრჩენელი” სურვილებს არ გისრულებთ?! მეტიც, დღეს ანექსიით გემუქრებათ. სამწუხაროდ, თქვენს ოცნებებსა და რეალობას შორის დიდი სხვაობაა და მუდამ ასე იქნება ღრუსულ ოკუპაციაში 🤷♀️
Abkhazia is Abkhazian
the poor russian guy stressed out by "the situation" who has to take a vacation to get to relax and forget it....That was really heartbreaking, I feel so sorry for him, I hope he'll be able to find peace at last. Like, find peace. For good.
What,what,what why does it say Русская?
Abkhazia part of Georgia! 🇬🇪
No
Look at the environment.. they chose Russia over us for this? this place still looks like it's stuck in 1990s.. what Freedom are they talking about when they're COMPLETELY dependent on Russia? this is so ironic it's sad.
We never chose Russia , and never will. We demand independence
@@ha8er463 Please, you think Russia will ever allow that? Even our independence is hanging by the thread, half our government is on Russian payroll, Russian forces could march in any day they wished, they have them stationed right at the border. They're toying with us, and unfortunately you're the bait. You're not even important enough for them to invest and make Abkhazia a beautiful blooming region that it could be today. Look at how they built up Sochi, why is Sokhumi still in such a state today?
@@LukaMamukelashvili Sochi is an ugly shithole, sukhum seaside is way better , architecture style here is ageing like fine wine, and Sochi is tasteless bunch of buildings. And I think that you are overrating Russian abilities ,we demand independence, unlike Ossetians we don’t want to be annexed by Russia.
Abkhazia is independent not Russia
Afxazua gorgia🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪
Of course, Abkhazia is part of Georgia
You’re about 30 years too late for this nonsense
Don't live in your dreams. Now Abkhazia is independent land. People of Abkhazia want to be free from Georgia, they won in Georgia-Abkhazia conflict.
@@user-ms6wl1oi1z don’t believe at the Russians, look at the world maps, Abkhazia is part of Georgia 🇬🇪
@@user-ms6wl1oi1zyou are Putin's puppet 😂😂
@@gameover-cw7rzyou are NATO’s fucktoy make sure you do what NATO tells you to or else they’ll bring “democracy” to you 🤡 🤣
Russia wants abkhazia like belarus, keeping control but no annexation
You should not have titled like that!!!! No question asked. Amkhazia is GEORGIA 🇬🇪 , always has been and will be!!!
Are there any muslims in Abkhazia?
Yes there are
Abkhazia is one of not many countries where Muslims, Christians, Protestants, pagans and many others live in peace with each other!
Come to Abkhazia everyone with good intentions are sweetly welcomed❤️
Look at the Abkhazian flag. The green stripes symbolize Islam and white stripes symbolize Christian. Always welcome.
Only moskov is russian others wont be their..
Abkhazia i georgia somos un pais inkreible. gente de abkhazia son mi sangre , mi corazon . Mi dolor . Mi alma. Abkhazia es mi casa . Es mi tiera
Hasta la victoria, hermano! Siempre!
Shvili is an Eastern Georgian surname ending. You are most likely a colonizer or a descendant of one, not a native Abkhaz person.
Автомат в руки и вперёд
the script makes me nauseous.
Abkhaz people should have just joined Georgia and claimed autonomy biggest mistake they made was to become a Russian client satte
Abkhaz people made an autonomy plan with Georgia’s first president Gamsakhurdia, before he was overthrown and the plan was scrapped by the new Georgian government.
🇬🇪 Abkhazia is Georgia forever☦️
Kosovo je Serbia
World: pick among your two genociders
Abkhaz: none
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Funny how they don't swim following the restrictions board 9:08 😅😅😅
Почитай историю милое дитя , может потом изменишь своё мнение . А я скажу коротко если бы не " ГРУЗИН СТАЛИН " то вымерли бы уже давным давно
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As an Indian, how to get to this country?
you can do it through Russia , we always be happy to see people from different countries in our home (don’t know if you need some vise or smth but there was many indian people before as i know )
it isn't a country lol. it's a region of Georgia.
You can't. You will end up in an abyss darker than you, as there is no country called "Abkhazia"
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xD
WOW.
კეთილი იყოს თქვენი მობრძანება მექსიკაში, როცა გინდათ ძმები, ქვეყანა ძალიან იზრდება და ხალხი მოდის მთელი მსოფლიოდან
Sakartvelo!!! What a beautiful place 😂💪👍 I was born in Armenia myself, but came to Australia as a migrant with my family in 1996. May I say you're welcome anytime here!! 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Are you on Mexico city
@@arsethr.g3787 no, in guadalajara the best city in Mexico
People leave Mexico for a better life in America *
@@dylanmurphy9389and some white Americans leave America for a better life in Mexico. You can live beautifully in any country if you have the money/resources.
I believe that no country has the right to prevent its citizens from at the very least, legally leaving if desired. NO HUMAN, AND THUS NO COUNTRY IS ENTITLED TO OWN HUMAN BEINGS. God created human beings with a free spirit, and the will to choose. Any person whom has otherwise committed a crime for which he or she has not yet been accounted for or punished judicially, cannot leave a country; any other citizen has the freedom to at the very least, leave at will. 🌍🌠🌎 Jesimiel Millar Fernandez (9-24-2023)
El imperio ruso debió dejar que los georgianos sean anexiónados por los turcos, fue un error del imperio ruso ayudarles
georgia
Abkhazia belongs to Abkhazians and Circassians they had shed enough blood by the Russians many years ago also there's a genocide that the Russians have not accepted in the year 1864 is very unsettling, they forcefully pushed us out from our motherlands and integrated wealthy elite Russians into the area. there are many stories from our elders about people fleeing the terror and starvation many people died on the boats that where headed to Turkey, they say they river ran red that day, bodies washed up on the shores of the Black coast
As a descendent of the Trisba Abkhaz tribe I will never forget and continue our traditions into further generations by educating as much one can about our culture. long live ABKHAZIA
Just Give us the Historical evidences 🤣 No one mentioned Abkhazia as a Circassian or Independent state untill 20-21th Century, even Abkhazian Kingdom was Georgian origin with fully Georgian Culture, Architecture and everything💋🙋🏼♂️
Iosif Stalin, Georgian, forced Abkhazia SSR into Georgia SSR. Apsny has been there way before the Russian and Roman empires existed.@@Nn1k_kkaaa