Philmont Perspective - Backpacking Lighter to Develop Character & Leadership in Scouting

Sam Francis, Scoutmaster of Troop 990 in Austin, Texas and Pat Rabun, Assistant Scoutmaster of Troop 326 in Fort Worth, Texas discuss packing lighter for a Philmont trek. Learn ways to save weight and what not to do from these experienced trekkers.

[@mrcool-qi9rq]

I am a Philmont ranger and I mostly agree with this. There are a lot of stupid thing Philmont has on the parking list like extra clothes and gloves that you just don't need. But there are a few things that I disagree with.
First don't go and buy a fancy dyneema(Cuban fiber) rope. Philmont will not let you use your own rope and the ropes we have are really not that heavy. Chances are you'll spend a bunch of money on something Philmont will not let you use anyway.
Second is iso butane stoves. If you go iso butane use a wisperlight style stove that uses canisters instead of white gas. DO NOT USE a pocket rocket style stove. trust me they do not have the ability to keep up with philmonts cooking method.
Lastly I would not recommend going out and buying a ton of really expensive dcf(Cuban fiber) gear. It amazing stuff but it is super expensive especially if you are only planning on using it a few times. This is the kind of stuff that is designed for thru hikers to live in. And it's a bit to expensive for one backpacking trip.

[@Ogrover08]

Please still listen to your Rangers....Good talk but please still listen and follow them on the rules. i was a ranger and Rayado Ranger and there is nothing more annoying then a Advisor saying ive been here before and know what im doing. so again PLEASE still listen to the Rangers its our job.

[@deh4848]

Why do we as smart, weight conscious backpackers tolerate such ignorance from "the pinnacle of Scouting" in America?

[@deh4848]

Everything these to experts are trying to convey is this: "Don't do what Philmont says to carry, but do follow Bear procedures. Who is responsible individual at Philmont for such heavy crew gear?

[@neilsdahlberg1323]

Having been to Philmont-- The rangers I met were worthy of respect for their conduct experience and woods wisdom....Thanks to Rangers...

[@liamlindy]

What is the name of the tarp?

[@tomfeeney5673]

What is the brand name of the light weight tarp?

[@cropduster1979]

I went to Philmont this year fortunately I found and listened to these gentleman prior to going. They saved my crew and I much energy from carrying to much weight and we enjoyed our trip.

[@liamsweeney9238]

what jacket is that at 7:45

[@tmosuela1]

What's the company that made the tarp?

[@yuanchentserng845]

I think it's Oware FlatTarp 5.

[@williamredfern2683]

THE CAT CREPT INTO THE THE CRYPT , , CRAPPED AND CREPT OUT AGAIN