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Excellent talk. Thank you.

Thanks!

I am a Philmont ranger and I mostly agree with this. There are a lot of stupid thing Philmont has on the parking list like extra clothes and gloves that you just don't need. But there are a few things that I disagree with. First don't go and buy a fancy dyneema(Cuban fiber) rope. Philmont will not let you use your own rope and the ropes we have are really not that heavy. Chances are you'll spend a bunch of money on something Philmont will not let you use anyway. Second is iso butane stoves. If you go iso butane use a wisperlight style stove that uses canisters instead of white gas. DO NOT USE a pocket rocket style stove. trust me they do not have the ability to keep up with philmonts cooking method. Lastly I would not recommend going out and buying a ton of really expensive dcf(Cuban fiber) gear. It amazing stuff but it is super expensive especially if you are only planning on using it a few times. This is the kind of stuff that is designed for thru hikers to live in. And it's a bit to expensive for one backpacking trip.

What is the brand name of the light weight tarp?

Awesome series of videos! Just finished watching the videos and all I can say is wow! Leaves me wanting more.

ok i keep rain gear in the north west you get wet just walking the woods legs get wet your boots do then you get cold then sick Pacific Crest trail no place play www.backpacker.com/survival

I did Rayado this year 2016 RM2. Did they really hike 300 miles? if they did I would like to see that itinerary. We did just over 200 miles and that was a rare accomplishment for a Rayado trek.

what a joke!!!

What's the company that made the tarp?

This was a great Vid. Subbed ya!

In preparation for our 2014 trek, I (we) did not spend enough time considering weight and know that our trip would have been more enjoyable (and we would have had time for more activities), if we had done a better job in this area. The other adult and I took on a slightly larger portion of the crew equipment than the scouts with his pack coming in at 46 and mine at 54 on the way out of base camp on Day 1. Even so, his son was unable to keep a steady pace with his 26 pound pack and by Day 6, was not willing to carry it full day. In retrospect, doing a better job of reducing weight for all of us would have improved the trip for everyone. Now the urge to go back and do it right is overwhelming. Thanks for the great videos and thought provoking suggestions.

THE CAT CREPT INTO THE THE CRYPT , , CRAPPED AND CREPT OUT AGAIN

people think lighter is not as durabe, but look ate all the long distance hikers.

10 liter dromedary is still my mortal enemy 2015 rm8

Excellent presentation! Thank you!

Skills and preparation replace equipment.

Everything these to experts are trying to convey is this: "Don't do what Philmont says to carry, but do follow Bear procedures. Who is responsible individual at Philmont for such heavy crew gear?

Why do we as smart, weight conscious backpackers tolerate such ignorance from "the pinnacle of Scouting" in America?

this is really nooby. women should not be in scouting

I would much rather watch a video series which was titled, "Come learn how to trek and camp the lightweight Philmont way!"

As I watch this series I had to ask myself this question. Why are two seasoned Scoutmasters spending so much time trying to tell other adult leaders how Philmont is loading up Crews with excessively heavy crew gear and meals? This heavy crew equipment mostly detracts from the Philmont experience.

Alan, this is a great video series. Thank you for leading this effort. I agree with your premise. Now, how do we get Philmont to be the Scouting School of Lightweight backpacking? And eventually, the University of Ultralight Treking?

curious about your pectoral cross .What is it? What is above it?

I went to Philmont this year fortunately I found and listened to these gentleman prior to going. They saved my crew and I much energy from carrying to much weight and we enjoyed our trip.

Did he use trekking poles?

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This lightweight system may be ok for temperate climates as in Texas, but this level of gear would not be appropriate for forays into the mountains of Colorado or Wyoming where I backpack. The hikers would be endangering themselves.

What is the name of the tarp?

Having been to Philmont-- The rangers I met were worthy of respect for their conduct experience and woods wisdom....Thanks to Rangers...

id rather take the waterproof trousers than the bottom part of the zip off trousers and just put the waterproofs on in your legs get cold rather than wearing wet shorts that end up probably rubbering against the tops of your thighs and generaly be uncomfortble

what jacket is that at 7:45

Plus if you hang this off your pack, a pack cover will fit over all of that and keep everything dry. A liner only keeps the inside contents dry. Sometimes I'll hang a sleeping pad or shoes on the outside of my pack.

I would LOVE to get a copy of the powerpoint to share with my Scouts...any chance of getting that?

this was very eye opening but a lot of the lightweight gear, i find, cant take as much of a beating then some of the durable stuff...the smart bottles for instance, great but ive dropped them on a trip and theyll crack and leak. so i rather take some of the heavy stuff thatll last vs lighter options. a lot of the terrain i go on is kind of rocky

I prefer a rain ucover because I find packs can get very heavy as they take on water. Unless you are using a dry bag style pack which few people do.

how come you guys dont carry survival kits thats one of the most valuble peices of gear to carry.

was the g4 he carried the small,medium,or large pack.

Thank you very much!

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Please still listen to your Rangers....Good talk but please still listen and follow them on the rules. i was a ranger and Rayado Ranger and there is nothing more annoying then a Advisor saying ive been here before and know what im doing. so again PLEASE still listen to the Rangers its our job.

Gossamer rocks! My way of getting rid of weight is to ask yourself, "How long do I carry it vs. how long do I use it?" With that, get rid of things like camp shoes, water shoes, extra flashlights.

Ok, I must have missed that part then.. :-)

he said he carried the fanny pack or lumbar pack for like his camera or his food

The backpack was full,.. I didnt see a bear bag or any food - or did I miss it?

Another good talk on the benifits and how your mind got turned towards using lighter gear. Thnaks Alan.

Good intro' into the joy and safety of packing lighter. Great thoughts their my friend.

Great service to the Scouting community. Good on ya Gossamer!

Great thoughts for scouting and anyone wishing to make their outdoor experience so much more affordable and fun. Lightweight gear is only about making choices such as a coat that weighs 9 oz. that keeps you just as warm as a 27 oz. coat. I'd like to see you add the importance of using a digital kitchen scale in choosing gear. You probably have in other vids. Thanks for a great video and spreading the word.

FYI, homemade alcohol stoves were banned in 2010 by the GSS.

When filled he carried it in his arms as he had the lightest load and was most capable to carry it.