Having worked on a land surveying crew for a number of years I can tell you this is a big problem. The fellow who built the fence was probably advised to do that by his lawyer. If he allows his neighbour to use the property for a period of time he is de facto ceding the property over to the neighbour. Therefore build a fence on the property line. That clearly states that he is claiming that boundary to his property. It all depends upon how long the structure was actually there before the fence was built. In Southern Ontario after forty years of no one complaining you can claim the property as yours. This probably differs from province to province and state to state.
@@SCP_Gate-Guardian Adverse possession is a law in Florida. @2000sborton is correct; they needed to prevent the neighbor from possessing that property or else they will lose legal ownership of it. I'm betting the owner of both properties end up suing the city of Orlando since they were in the wrong. The owners of the house use the money to remove the pool and garage.
I am 75. A survey has been done and the encroachment approved, signed and recorded. The new & legal property survey actually shows the amount of encroachment. This is a 55+ HOA. My once excellent health is deteriorating fast. The neighbor did not submit an application. Said she owned every inch of land up to and including my wall. Our houses are over12 ft apart, which 8 ft is mime. I am having my 2nd anxiety attack. My primary & the cardiologist is quite concern because my health has been excellent for my age. Why are these civil matter that take years and thousands of dollars to settle once the property lines are confirmed. Who is the winner in these cases. Perhaps, it is for [wrong] to prevail is for good people to do nothing.
EXACTLY .....and perhaps the "builder" should have been working with "APPROVED SITE PLANS" authorized by the city ......and where was the city inspector? This whole story is a complete screwup from every direction. I suspect the second property owner who built the house, was trying a fast one ...or the city of Orlando did in fact screw up badly on their property records. FACT - 0:52 ..."the pool and garage are partially on the adjacent property and NOT included in the sale." How can that possibly be acceptable to anyone wanting to buy the house in the first place? WHY would a realtor take on this sale? 1:10 ..."The house was sold at an AUCTION". This strongly suggests the sale was "site unseen" by the purchaser, with the incorrect information about the house property. 1:38 ..."both lots WERE (originally) owned by the same person, A HOUSE ON EACH ....SO (the new owner) THEN CLEARED THE LOTS AND BUILT ONE BIG HOUSE ....AND THAT OWNER WENT INTO FORECLOSURE (BANK) ....AND THE LOTS WERE SOLD TO TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. This one sale, a "foreclosure sale" (SOLD BY THE BANK) could have been a very low prices, but the exact true circumstances would be very interesting to know. IF both purchasers did their homework, they would BOTH know there was something wrong somewhere and one chose to take a "risk" (the house buyer) ...and the other saw and opportunity of making some extra money (the vacant lot). 2:00 ..."the city of Orlando, did not permit the two lots properly." This of course is very obvious because in the modern world, to build a house in any city, the house plans need to be approved on any lot. These plans are stamped and approved, showing and identifying the property involved and the exact placement of the house on the property, showing ALL property lines. This means the city "APPROVED" the encroachment over the second lot. THE RECORDS FOR THIS LOT IS THEN CHANGED ACCORDINGLY ......BUT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FAILED TO MAKE THIS CHANGE. The city is where ALL property records are found when any lands are put up for sale. This is where homeowners/lawyers/notaries get their legal documents when processing home ownership transactions. The engineering department needs to do an internal investigation to find out what happened. Maybe the guy who built the oversized house bribed someone in engineering.(?) The owner of the vacant lot very obviously had no choice but to come up with something to protect his property, that he bought showing the property lines. He/she really had to think outside of the box to come up with this "solution". I 100% support this person. If the neighbours are not going to support this property owner, then they are being very disrespectful of his/her "rights". There may be other reasons why the neighbours are not be supporting this property owner ....but purely legally-speaking ....I support the property owner. Then again .....this whole mess could be a well-thought-out FRAUD ....to get money from the city(?) .
@@taxicamel All of this seems to be on the surveyor and the lawyers. None of it would be on the inspector. How would they know about any property lines? You pay for inspectors. City inspectors don't do private property.
To me its when they sold the lots separately. As soon as a structure cross a lot it should become one lot (assuming you own the other lot of course) and if you want to sell the empty piece it would have to be resurveyed and sold as a separate new lot.
I've decided that I am going to build a house in the middle of the woods, where I live its pretty easy to get a bunch of land with trees. I've had enough with my neighbors, they keep playing shite music from noon till 8 pm.
@@lillyanne7277 I don't blame you at all...I don't mind neighbors BUT I don't want them right next door to me..I need at least an acre of land between us with CLEAR boundary lines.
The lot my house is on has ultra-wacky property lines. They were so poorly drawn on historical documents, that my neighbor build a workshop addition on to his house, which is approx. 50% on my land. This was all before my family purchased the property and had the lines re-assessed. My family actually owns nearly 80% of the neighbor's yard. Thankfully, they are wonderful neighbors and we are understanding people. My neighbors are great, and had no problems with the surveying companies clearly marking official property lines. After some discussion, we made an official agreement. We "lease" the land that the neighbors use to them for $1.00 per year. They signed a contract that they cannot sue us for any injury to them or others that occurs on the land that is technically ours. Most importantly, they agreed to allow us the right to be the first to purchase their property should they decide to move. This is so that we have the opportunity to purchase their home, and then (through the city), redraw the property lines to be "sane." Yes, my property would shrink a little (in this case), but they are really great people and this makes sense for our situation. (Also the wife makes amazing, authentic Sri-Lankan food and I can't get enough of it lol)
No no, developed lots mean tax money. A vacant lot is not worth it's value in tax money. A developed lot can be worth 100x it's value in tax money. The city has no benefit from a vacant lot.
@@JustSomeGoy I do just want to be very clear that property tax assesses the value of a property. This assessment decides how much is paid from the property. If a property has only it's land value, then it is not a valuable property to the city. Sure, they will get the tax from the land value, but that is very minor to say, the same size of land with a development on it as the value of the property would then be higher. If the property value is higher, so is the amount to tax since it operates on a percentage.
Listen here SuperSonicMan. If you own property in a rich neighborhood. You are going to want all of your land, so you can build the biggest house on it.
kirara2516 San Fran where they have a housing issue specifically because of their archaic limits to maintain only single family homes, keeping out any of the undesirables from their neighborhood. That’s a horrible example, because it couldn’t be further from NYC. A lot of NIMBY liberals are keeping San Fran that way for the foreseeable future.
*5 star contractor* Contractor: As long as I get paid I get the job done. I'll put a fence right over the pool if that's what you want. Hey customer's always right.
He’s paying taxes on that part of the land, not the homeowner, so why should the homeowner be allowed to go on that guys property, he’s not paying for it
Exactly I don’t think dumbasses understand that. The homeowners know exactly where their property ends yet they built their shit on the other guys property
This sounds like my old house. New neighbor got dogs. Attached a fence to my fence that was 6 feet on to my property. I went into foreclosure. The house next door was sold 5 years after the fence was attached. When my house was resold. Glad the new owner took back the 6 Foot of property. Don't blame the Man who put the fence up between the pool and garage. Good for him. I felt the same way.
I have bad neighbors two houses down. They hire people all the time they trespassing and destroy things all the time and no one complained about these people who been doing the same project for months.
Did they want 6 feet of your property, or where they just truing to contain their dog? You’re one of those that thinks building 2 fences one foot apart is reasonable.
Casey Flentye please man, google any major state like California, New York, Texas and choose any date and you will see that each of them will have stories of their own.
This reminds me so much of the episode from that 70’s show when bob thought Reds house was part of his property and took half his garage. Turned out the blueprints were upside down and Red owned part of bobs house 😂😂😂. This is the kind of stuff from sitcoms not real life lmao.
exactly.. why this stuff has to be so dramatic and stupid to get to this point is ridiculous... sigh.. and folks are really suffering and you are complaning about losing a few feet.. Granted... that is why it is good to get your house and property surveyed before any major construction.....
Bank only messed up in giving a loan to someone who couldn't pay for it. The foreclosure said is often done by a county sheriff that auctions the property. If the bank chose not to purchase the lot as basically they are paying themselves, that was their legal choice. Let's say the bank gave out a loan for $200,000K house. At current interest rates, the total payback amount after 30 years of payments would be $376,200. Let's imagine the owner stayed 10 years making payments and then just plain stopped. That's 125,400 toward the balance. They're only in the hole $74,600. If someone wants to come along and buy the house for $75K, the bank can get out of that situation breaking even. Sometimes that's good enough as they aren't in the business to refurbish homes. What they really like is when someone comes around and buys the house at say $150K so they wind up in the black and the house is off their hands. At a sheriff auction the bank's representatives will offer a certain amount or nothing if the house isn't worth it. So if the owner bought the house for $200K and immediately defaulted on it, the bank doesn't want someone to come in and buy the house for $50K so they take a $150K loss they'll never get back from the indebted owner. They'll bid against other buyers as they have deep pockets and they're basically paying themselves. That's why many homes are bought back by the banks that gave the loans. Sometimes to avoid foreclosure banks will offer a short sale too. Sometimes that is an option and can help the party unable to pay the mortgage not to have to declare bankruptcy. It is simple but a bit complicated. Weird. It is just a "system" they adhere to which ensures they break even or profit instead of lose money to someone who will just declare bankruptcy.
@Fred Flintstone So what do you recommend for first time home buyers who want to avoid lot disputes? Like say I want to move into an average neighborhood here in the USA. Mainly TX.
Title insurance does not cover this. A Survey before the purchase would find the issue. In this case, it was clearly discussed in the listing there is an issue. New owner decided to proceed in buying the house anyways. Good luck with that mess.
Fence looks messy takes away from the property. Sad when adults just dont try to have a conversation. The realtor should have got both parties together before the the eye store the fence was put up
Lola Renee fuck off, you shitbag. My analogy is not “dumb”. Clearly you are the dumb one, not getting the point of the joke. You are a miserable, stupid, joyless, self-hating sad little loser who has nothing better to do than post hateful comments online.
Listen up kids: it is greedy to expect to own what you paid for. Give it away to be nice and enlightened. I don't care that you worked for years to buy it, Timmy, you're being greedy. What awesome pearls of wisdom.
@@dyhkpopedition1736 yet it's childish to try and resolve it by building a freaking fence over a pool and blocking a garage halfway... they could have resolved this way more mature... yet the owner of the vacant property thought it would fit to build a fence.... such childish shit man idk why you Americans have such a weird property system...
Jasper Pluk never said it wasn’t petty and childish. Actually it is so petty and childish that it made me laugh. I don’t remember the video too clearly but who’s to say they didn’t discuss anything beforehand.
john seymoure typically when you buy a home you do a mortgage inspection, not a boundary survey. That is enough to tell you there is a problem to be addressed. Smart would have been finding the problem and taking care of it before you bought a problem. Now this will cost two owners problems. Whenever a lender gives you money for a home, they want to know that the improvements are on the property and your neighbors are not encroaching on to you. If they had a inspection, the problem would have been known.
I worked as a land surveyor for 17 years and have dealt with this situation many times. Most lenders do not require a full blown boundary survey. They only require a mortgage inspection. Improvements are located and shown to the nearest foot on the drawing. There would have been a note on the drawing the surveyor would have recommended a boundary survey be done. A boundary survey hardly ever gets done with the purchase of a home! Most people would rather spend $300 for a inspection and not $1300 for a boundary survey.
Sean Cole in my state a title search is required, but no survey. Surveyor for 13 years brother. People blindly take the realtors word, "ya ya that telephone pole is where the line is, or that bush is the corner, etc. " Watch those ticks and snakes! You know.
I think everyone is forgetting who the real idiots are. When the bank foreclosed, they should have listed both parcels under the same auction. 🤷♂️ Problem solved from 3 minutes of research on the banks end
The chances of both properties being owned by the same bank is small. I realize you said banks, plural. Just wanted to add that. It isn't the lending companies interest to litigate these type of discrepancies. Their interest is to unload them. The buyers have an interest in them and will settle in civil court.
David Miller Bank’s end - indicating possession, not plural. If you watch the video again, you will notice that both parcels were owned by the bank. Therefore they are responsible. Your poor attitude that is not their problem is exactly why real estate laws exist. They had a legal responsibility to disclose this to the buyer..... or the most common sense option, make it a multi-parcel auction.
@@topcomment3816 From the video, it was disclosed. That's why it didn't sell and agents were dismissing it. It went to auction. This happens so many times. Usually not a dwelling structure. More often just a wall or a driveway. Real estate laws exist for the same reasons why all laws exist. To provide a clear understanding of rights. This is a nothing burger. It will play out just as I described earlier. Because those are the choices. I don't know what the properties sold for, but from experience, I'm sure the bank could've made more on them if they followed your advice. To just seperate or combine. Therefore ridding it of any litigation matters. But thats not the interest of banks. Their interest is in contracts. Seems wasteful, but thats what they do. They move on. Some smaller lending companies have been doing these practices lately. This helps them to limit losses in their books to keep credit with bigger banks that back them.
My parent bought our house in 1991. And the neighbors pool was over our property line, probably around 10ft over, and my dad was fine with it. They let us use the pool anytime we wanted as well. He looked at it as, as long as he’s not using that piece of property, it wasn’t a big deal. Just a couple weeks ago she had the pool removed. It needed too much work to keep open and she wanted her yard back. Of course, we also get along great with our neighbors.
Update the guy with the smaller piece of land was allowed to build a house on his property before it was deemed too small so they didnt let him. Neighbors arent happy because the fence dispute is still there and will become and eyesoar.
As stated in the report, the property was sold at auction. The buyer clearly didn't perform the requisite due diligence regarding the property lines and what appeared to be a steal turned out to be a nightmare.
@@greg6363 I have no understanding of American property law. But why would it be a nightmare? Like, if I didn't care about having a garage or pool, it seems like a really good deal.
I found the properties on google maps and it looks like the fence was removed and there’s a gate that leads to the pool. I’m assuming there’s one owner for both properties now.
they lit explain it in the video, but ill explain it since you missed it. both lots were owned by the same person. the guy knocked down a house on one lot and built a new one on the other. the reason the pool went over the boundary is because the guy who built the pool owned the adjacent lot as well so it was still his property. when the house went into forclosure the lots were sold individually and two dif people bought them.
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Children aren't really passive aggressive though. They're pretty truthful (regular aggressive) when they're not getting their way. It's immature grown ups that behave passive aggressively
@@jussayinmipeece1069 it is his property. Since he decided to be an entitled twat, his would be neighbors won't help him get a house built. He can do what he likes with his property (well, almost), but he sure as shit will suffer the consequences.
He's smart to build the fence. Even if incorrectly located, a fence or structure can establish a property boundry after a given number of years in many states. Boundry disputes can take many years to resolve. It's best to establish the correct line immediately, and then wait for the court system to sort it out.
The home builder never legally went through the process of combining the two lots into a single lot (which makes sense-- if they'd stayed in the house that would've been an unnecessary expense). So legally there's always been two lots there. In this news clip the neighbor who is a realtor says that the city should've made the bank legally have the lot lines redrawn before it resold these lots. The bank did well for themselves selling off these problematic properties and sticking the new owners with the expensive legal issues. Having the lot lines redrawn is a no go for the empty lot owner as their lot would be too small for them to legally build a house upon. If the bank had the lot lines redrawn prior to the sales they would've lost a lot of money trying to sell a piece of land with incredibly limited utility which is probably why they didn't do it. The best solution would've been for the bank to remove the garage and pool prior to the sales, but banks understandably like to spend as little as possible on foreclosures. It's a crummy situation for both lot owners. I don't envy either of them.
The old property owner to the house sold the house on the 1st lot and the land in the other lot separately. If they owned both they should have sold both together to the same buyer.
@@MM-jf1me Technically the city dropped the ball on this, cause when the plans were submitted to build the house and garage they should have automatically redrew the property lines then.
You don't get away with entering a dwelling that someone lives in and you don't, even if you own it or part of it. So your fence in the kitchen would get you in a cage.
@@starandfox601 Interesting, thanks for the intel. Odd choices by the banks. You'd think they'd want to dump it, and the logical choice to avoid further issues, would be the owner of the other lot.
@Marshall Carwood The lot was sold after the house was sold. Also he's not playing a stupid game.he's trying to protect the land he payed for.the house owner has no legal claim to that land/part of the pool. Also that's a great way to run into legal trouble by playing "games" back over land you do not own.
@Marshall Carwood he didn't own both plots of land.that was a different preson who defaulted on both plots. What happened was 1 preson owned both plots then defaulted and lost both of them.then instead of combining the plots like the bank should of done they decided to sell the plots separately leaving the iusse up to the buyers. Then the this guy bought the lot and found out a lot of his plot was taken up by the pool and wasn't allowed to build his home.resulting in him seeking legal advice and having to put the fence up to battle it out in court to get what he payed for. It's not a game at all.
i keep hearing that florida is the most amazing paradice YES!! if you can keep the gators from swimming in your pool and the bears out out of the flower bed and hope that your house isn't built over a sinkhole and hope your neighbors are not drug dealers don't forget about hurricane season hope your house doesn't end up the atlantic ocean oh yes the cockroaches might eat you dog then there's the cost of living everybody is searching for paradise other than that it's great
the listing clearly states the property does not include the pool or garage, so what say does the new home owner have in the matter? none is the answer.
This is like a real life Flintstones episode, the one where Fred and Barney build a pool in between their properties and then end up getting into an argument and putting up a fence right through the middle of it.
2:21 The most ridiculous part about this whole story is at the end. The city makes it illegal to build a house on a small lot. Zoning codes like that one were put in place to ban less wealthy people from having a home in that neighborhood. It's outrageous that is still on the books. Any zoning code that segregates people by class needs to be abolished.
This reminds me of when my new neighbor threw a hissy and tried to start a holy war with me because I wouldn’t let him park his boat in my front yard. The “but you’re not uSiNg it” argument doesn’t quite work there, buddy. 🤣
Oh my gosh, my next door neighbor parks her daughters broken down car in front of my house, I said why don't you just put your car up more in your driveway... then she brought herself ANOTHER car. Two in the driveway, junk car in front of my house.
@@brot5246 Yeah, that sucks, buddy, sorry about that! We decided to allow at least that of our neighbors just to try and keep some peace, but putting your boat on our actual front yard, when they had two acres of land already was not gonna happen 😂. Some people are just users.
I had a neighbor do that!!! He parked his boat on my driveway because he owned 2 or 3 ft of it on the other side of his fence which is bullshit. Luckily we were just renting so we were nice enough to not care. People are so trashy.
Before moving in to his new house, on of my brothers neighbors were parking their cars in his driveway. His 1st day moving in he asked around, and the next door neighbor ran out and moved his cars.
@@brot5246 if its parked on the street you dont own the street. even if its in front of your house. Many seem to have this misconception. You just have crappy neighbors. This is when an HOA is nice if you like to keep streets free and clear. But if its no HOA and its on the street, you nor anybody cant stop someone from parking their car in front of your house. And they can park it there for as long as your city's laws allow it to. It sucks but thats how it goes
This remind me of that episode in that 70's show when Bob finds a paper stating he owns some of the Formans property (Reds garage), but it turns out he was holding it upside down & in the end Red owned a piece of Bobs property(His kitchen). 😁
+ Happened on "The Jetsons" S1 Ep #21 Cogswell puts up a new building & George Jetsons looks at the blueprints and sees that the building has crossed over 6 inches over the property line of his boss Mr Spacely' lot. Who then demands Cogswell tear his building down. Turns out George had the blueprints upside down and it's Spacely's building sitting 6 inches over Cogswell's property line.
The problem is a financial one for the owner of the empty lot. Without a fence on the real property line, he would have to take matters to court and bear the costs associated with that. With a fence in place, it's now up to the one with house to take it to court and bear the costs. Taking down the fence in the middle of the night is not a solution either, as the matter would then be upgraded from a neighbour dispute to a criminal offense. Not a lawyer, but have seen this exact situation before.
The empty plot guy isn't trying to build a house there. He's probably just some sneaky investor looking to double the price of that land by selling it to the new house owner.
@john seymoure same could be said of empty plot guy, he should have thought twice before buying a property that has a driveway and a pool going through it. The true fault lies in the authorities who let the divided sale happen and the dumbass who sold the property in two pieces.
Your making assumptions based off no evidence. Point is the other original property owner of the other plot built on his land. He’s within his rights to put up a fence. Hell if he wanted to cement his 1/2 the pool and tear down his part of the garage. That would be his prerogative. If I’m expected to pay taxes on my property I using all my property.
My 9 yr old: Daddy, why don't they just ask the neighbor to trade them the extra part where their pool is? Me: because some people would rather be right than smart, kiddo.
That is a level of petty I've never seen before. Do your due diligence before buying property. It's not worth the aggravation or cost to buy a lot that has that kind of issue
There is this show called Neighbor from Hell in Investigation Discovery channel....people are literally insane, neighbor’s literally kill each other over these things 😩😩😩
The guy who bought the lot without a house on it probably bought it knowing the issues and assumed he could basically extort the homeowner into paying an exorbitant amount for it. Otherwise I'm sure the homeowner or even real estate company that sold it would have purchased the lot and avoided all of this.
This is such a strange level of pettiness but at the same time understandable, why should you pay property taxes for someones else's property, each square foot bumps up the price. This is completely the cities fault and not the homeowners or the realtors who sold the property.
It has nothing to do with property taxes. Had he allowed the new neighbors to utilize the property over time the neighbor can CLAIM said property as their own!! 🤷🏿♀️ It's basically like Squatters Right.. And no realtor sold the property is was purchased at an auction.
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 The city of Orlando allowed the builder to be permitted to be built across two separate properties. That is not legal. They should have required the builder to combine properties before permitting the house to build across the property line. The end result here is the city of Orlando will be sued for the sales price of the property with the house.
pettiness? how about you WASTE hundreds of thousands of dollars on a house that's not even on your own property? is that petty? is it petty to raise alarm about your property being stolen? what's petty is your desire to point out absurd things. pettiness. this is NOT about anything petty. I bet you have never owned property. your take is a strong indication you have never owned property before.
A lot of places here have city or county ordinances that say things like "must build home at least 3,000 square feet" or "must be X feet from front, side, rear of property" or must have at least half acre lot, shit like that. But yeah, they don't let you build "small" houses below 2,xxxx sq feet in many neighborhoods.
@@jca111 Mine is about 2500 but I think I'd be happy with 1k, as long as you live alone or with a partner only, and you have a nice 1k sq ft. Lower energy bills, maintenance, less junk, etc. Sometimes it's nice to have a "big" place, sometimes not. Life is about balance. If you got a family, it's too small imo.
Being in London, I wouldn't be surprised if your "tiny" house didn't cost more than one of these big houses. I don't know why/how you can live in such an expensive city.
@waterside Considering it's already built they are being petty. Adults would work it out with legal work and some money. Working together is the way to fix this, but they just wanna be dicks.
They’d do that here too. I watched the house across from my childhood home get demolished.... and four duplex houses get built on to it.... that’s now a minimum 16 people on that one little block, all with a car...they have absolutely no yard to even put a bloody plant pot let alone a tree or lawn (upside for the yuppies that live there) to mow. It’s insane ... and I’ll fight for my childhood home not to have the same fate. A 22 year old developer keeps harassing my parents but they won’t budge and nor will I when they’re gone.
Avoid this by paying to have a property title search and have your property surveyed before signing the paperwork. Otherwise cutting corners gets you this kind of nightmare.
Like houses last on the market long enough for you to even do this anymore.... Blackrock doesn't care about boundary lines bc their aim is own everything anyways. They'll outbid real families for homes, it's happening to two different families I'm friends with in two different states. One has already sold their home and can't find one to buy bc they keep getting snatched up immediately and the other is now looking to stay with their home and the kids and her husband is going to have to work and partially live out of state. We don't have the luxury of time in buying a home anymore.
@JaXX The guy really oughta just not be a dick about it. No one lives there, so either pay for demolition and fix the problem or just let someone move tf in and quit the bullshit. It says he intends to build a house in the smaller portion anyways, so just do it and leave the other one alone already. Waste of everyones time just because the original builder took loans from different banks.
But, this was a dispute with my nieghbor where i usto live! Half of my driveway was on his lot but what he didnt tell u is half of his drive way was on the other nieghbors plot! So all of the property lines were off 5 feet makeing everyones drive way on the next lot!
Same story for me, we own a portion (~4 feet) of the neighbour's driveway all the way to their backyard. This was discovered 5 years ago, and neither of us has been affected in anyway. Guess that's what happens when you deal with two adults. That said, this pool/garage takes up significantly more property than my ~4' of land, so I understand this is a different case. However, as of January this year neither person has budged so it just seems like both people are losing out.
@@DozIT me i had no problem he actually was useing 6 feet of our property in the back all i cared about was him telling me all the time i can stop you from parking in your driveway! What a jerk!😂😂😂😂
I never understood neighbors who just can’t get along over stupid stuff like this. We’ve been living on our land for over 12 years the lot next to us was vacant until last year. The new neighbor when he bought realized our fence was about 6’ over. We didn’t build the fence we bought it that way. This doesn’t sound like much 6 feet but imagine 6ft on a half mile fence. He asked us to move the fence we had it surveyed realized he was right we moved the fence. Which then made us realize our neighbors on the other side was 6ft over. We didn’t mention it to them we just let it be. There’s no animosity still like the new neighbor. We all get along and now he just has extra grass to cut. C’est la vie!
Of COURSE Orlando City Govt did nothing...THAT would have required conscious thought AND effort. Something we're SORELY lacking...in BOTH departments, and in SPADES.
And of course the lot owner acted like a damn 3 year old child instead of talking with the guy that just bought the house. I'm sure that neighbor relationship will be real swell now. I mean maybe do better research himself when buying the lot so he doesnt get stuck with a lot too damn small to build a house (I'm assuming that's a city ordinance because you can absolutely fit a horse on that lot).
Ah, but the law won't allow you to build 1 house there. It's illegal to build less than a certain square footage in certain neighborhoods, they won't give you a permit to build it. If you build without a permit, they make you tear it down. I do agree that this is first world country problems.
Why did the owner of the other lot allow part of the pool and garage to be built on his property though in the first place? It’s not the people who bought the house fault they want to use their stuff
You buy two properties next to each other and build on both. Then, the bank forecloses and there are still two properties. Those two properties are sold to two different people. So right back at you, "Why is this difficult?"
the number of people calling this guy childish is insane. You would have to be mentally deficient or a child to be perfectly content with giving away 1/8th of your property for free
The clear winner is the fence installer. LOL
How his he a winner when he cant build on the tiny lot he owns ?
@Carol ok , i guesd
Switch On Hell yea he might get his to take it down next lol
Indeed🤔
Switch On lol true. I agree too 🤣
i bet the fence installer just burst laughing their ass while installing the fences that day
So damn true
he's not laughing now,,,because now his neighbors have called him out for being a jackass
Hes one the phone twice with his boss, so im really putting it here.
probably, but i bet he got wet
@@ainemairead4542 The fence installer is just the guy who installed the fence. Nothing to do with the owner on either side.
Pessimists see a fence, optimists see a volley ball net.
No, water polo!
@@Timbrock1000 I like your thinking
😆
Right I'm still f****** swimming in the pool
Fences and walls dont work though. He needed a smart wall. Lol dems
Having worked on a land surveying crew for a number of years I can tell you this is a big problem. The fellow who built the fence was probably advised to do that by his lawyer. If he allows his neighbour to use the property for a period of time he is de facto ceding the property over to the neighbour. Therefore build a fence on the property line. That clearly states that he is claiming that boundary to his property. It all depends upon how long the structure was actually there before the fence was built. In Southern Ontario after forty years of no one complaining you can claim the property as yours. This probably differs from province to province and state to state.
It’s called squatters rights. My sister acquired property from her city this way. She maintained it for over 40 years, they finally gave it to her!
@@konapuppy10 Adverse possession.
@@beaelliott3181 squatters rights isn't a thing and adverse possession isn't a thing.
@@SCP_Gate-Guardian Adverse possession is a law in Florida. @2000sborton is correct; they needed to prevent the neighbor from possessing that property or else they will lose legal ownership of it. I'm betting the owner of both properties end up suing the city of Orlando since they were in the wrong. The owners of the house use the money to remove the pool and garage.
@@119Agent keep telling yourself that loser.
The person who installed the fence is the definition of *”not my problem”* lmao
Exactly
a pay check is a pay check :P
As a fence installer..yep.
Lol
I am 75. A survey has been done and the encroachment approved, signed and recorded. The new & legal property survey actually shows the amount of encroachment. This is a 55+ HOA. My once excellent health is deteriorating fast.
The neighbor did not submit an application. Said she owned every inch of land up to and including my wall. Our houses are over12 ft apart, which 8 ft is mime. I am having my 2nd anxiety attack. My primary & the cardiologist is quite concern because my health has been excellent for my age.
Why are these civil matter that take years and thousands of dollars to settle once the property lines are confirmed.
Who is the winner in these cases.
Perhaps, it is for [wrong] to prevail is for good people to do nothing.
Imagine being the contractor that installed a fence over a pool😂😂😂
He probably laughed the whole damn time!
I would like to know the fence zoning requirements at that location? Usually there's some type of required setback from a property line.
That’s exactly what I was thinking.
i don’t even understand how he built it🤣
@Marshall Carwood so companies like North American fencing aren't contractors?
😕
Idk man im kinda on the fence about this
CJ indent same they shouldn’t have built a pool in the first place 😂
@@LuisAGuevara33 it was already there
Wow nobody got the joke.
Oh yeah yeah
😂
The city really dropped the ball on this one. The fact that it was two properties should have been fixed before they allowed him to build.
EXACTLY .....and perhaps the "builder" should have been working with "APPROVED SITE PLANS" authorized by the city ......and where was the city inspector? This whole story is a complete screwup from every direction.
I suspect the second property owner who built the house, was trying a fast one ...or the city of Orlando did in fact screw up badly on their property records.
FACT - 0:52 ..."the pool and garage are partially on the adjacent property and NOT included in the sale." How can that possibly be acceptable to anyone wanting to buy the house in the first place? WHY would a realtor take on this sale?
1:10 ..."The house was sold at an AUCTION". This strongly suggests the sale was "site unseen" by the purchaser, with the incorrect information about the house property.
1:38 ..."both lots WERE (originally) owned by the same person, A HOUSE ON EACH ....SO (the new owner) THEN CLEARED THE LOTS AND BUILT ONE BIG HOUSE ....AND THAT OWNER WENT INTO FORECLOSURE (BANK) ....AND THE LOTS WERE SOLD TO TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
This one sale, a "foreclosure sale" (SOLD BY THE BANK) could have been a very low prices, but the exact true circumstances would be very interesting to know. IF both purchasers did their homework, they would BOTH know there was something wrong somewhere and one chose to take a "risk" (the house buyer) ...and the other saw and opportunity of making some extra money (the vacant lot).
2:00 ..."the city of Orlando, did not permit the two lots properly." This of course is very obvious because in the modern world, to build a house in any city, the house plans need to be approved on any lot. These plans are stamped and approved, showing and identifying the property involved and the exact placement of the house on the property, showing ALL property lines. This means the city "APPROVED" the encroachment over the second lot. THE RECORDS FOR THIS LOT IS THEN CHANGED ACCORDINGLY ......BUT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FAILED TO MAKE THIS CHANGE. The city is where ALL property records are found when any lands are put up for sale. This is where homeowners/lawyers/notaries get their legal documents when processing home ownership transactions. The engineering department needs to do an internal investigation to find out what happened. Maybe the guy who built the oversized house bribed someone in engineering.(?)
The owner of the vacant lot very obviously had no choice but to come up with something to protect his property, that he bought showing the property lines. He/she really had to think outside of the box to come up with this "solution". I 100% support this person.
If the neighbours are not going to support this property owner, then they are being very disrespectful of his/her "rights". There may be other reasons why the neighbours are not be supporting this property owner ....but purely legally-speaking ....I support the property owner.
Then again .....this whole mess could be a well-thought-out FRAUD ....to get money from the city(?)
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YEP, and they should have to pay for it with mega bucks, this is f/ing rediculous
@@taxicamel All of this seems to be on the surveyor and the lawyers. None of it would be on the inspector. How would they know about any property lines?
You pay for inspectors. City inspectors don't do private property.
need to sue the city.
To me its when they sold the lots separately. As soon as a structure cross a lot it should become one lot (assuming you own the other lot of course) and if you want to sell the empty piece it would have to be resurveyed and sold as a separate new lot.
“This sounds like something that would happen in Flori-
Oh...
Reminds me of that rapper’s name;
Flo Rida only difference is this fence thing doesn’t make sense the rapper well he’s a rapper & people love them 😂
Bravo 👏
What drugs do they have in Florida???
Laura spice,myth,crack,coke,acid,angel trumpets (yes the plant) bath salts there is always something new
So many damn snow birds and other outsiders and refugees have ruined FL.
I’m overwhelmed by the level of maturity here...
You think anyone ever grows up? Most adults have never matured passed middle school
@@thebunz7 and some not even that far apparently
Most likely boomers
You guys obviously paid little attention to the video. There's a clear explanation as to why this happened.
@@JonCollinsMedia ok boomer
This is why I do NOT like neighbors..give me trees and land...
Mine is Praying the Corona virus away every afternoon. Effed up Bitch. .is too loud
Big facts
I’m moving far far away from where i live now. Maybe the U.P.
I've decided that I am going to build a house in the middle of the woods, where I live its pretty easy to get a bunch of land with trees. I've had enough with my neighbors, they keep playing shite music from noon till 8 pm.
@@lillyanne7277 I don't blame you at all...I don't mind neighbors BUT I don't want them right next door to me..I need at least an acre of land between us with CLEAR boundary lines.
The lot my house is on has ultra-wacky property lines. They were so poorly drawn on historical documents, that my neighbor build a workshop addition on to his house, which is approx. 50% on my land. This was all before my family purchased the property and had the lines re-assessed. My family actually owns nearly 80% of the neighbor's yard. Thankfully, they are wonderful neighbors and we are understanding people.
My neighbors are great, and had no problems with the surveying companies clearly marking official property lines. After some discussion, we made an official agreement. We "lease" the land that the neighbors use to them for $1.00 per year. They signed a contract that they cannot sue us for any injury to them or others that occurs on the land that is technically ours. Most importantly, they agreed to allow us the right to be the first to purchase their property should they decide to move. This is so that we have the opportunity to purchase their home, and then (through the city), redraw the property lines to be "sane." Yes, my property would shrink a little (in this case), but they are really great people and this makes sense for our situation. (Also the wife makes amazing, authentic Sri-Lankan food and I can't get enough of it lol)
You guys are an inspiration, makes me happy to hear this❤
Always good to have great people in our lives. Glad you were both able to amicably resolve the problem while still honoring your friendship.
❤😊😂 the add on is actually my favorite of this whole story. I wish you well! You guys deserve it.
I'd still demand the home be torn down. If I buy something this is mine. Unless they pay in full for the value of the land
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its the city's fault for not modifying the lot, two lots means more tax money
and the bank that did the foreclosure and then sold two lots! They had to know about the property lines!
No no, developed lots mean tax money. A vacant lot is not worth it's value in tax money.
A developed lot can be worth 100x it's value in tax money.
The city has no benefit from a vacant lot.
@@vividvault9285 property tax. land has value
@@JustSomeGoy Obviously, which I acknowledged. But Land without development, in comparison, has no value.
@@JustSomeGoy I do just want to be very clear that property tax assesses the value of a property. This assessment decides how much is paid from the property.
If a property has only it's land value, then it is not a valuable property to the city.
Sure, they will get the tax from the land value, but that is very minor to say, the same size of land with a development on it as the value of the property would then be higher. If the property value is higher, so is the amount to tax since it operates on a percentage.
“Jokes on you, you just saved me a hundred bucks on a pool volleyball net!”
Lol I would be that person that would pretend not to be bothered and play on and around it lol I would even obnoxiously decorate it lol
Daniel Decker 😂😂😂😂
Damit I was about to say that. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This would make a terrible volleyball net. You could accidentally impale yourself spiking it lol
And garage volleyball net?
“The lot isn’t big enough for a house “ , really? Rich people problems, I guess.
Yeah. If you cant build out, build up. Look at house sizes in San Fran, and NYC.
kirara2516 it could be possible that this neighborhood doesn’t allow tall building
Listen here SuperSonicMan. If you own property in a rich neighborhood. You are going to want all of your land, so you can build the biggest house on it.
I’m guessing the lot itself is not large enough to be permitted for a house in that area
kirara2516 San Fran where they have a housing issue specifically because of their archaic limits to maintain only single family homes, keeping out any of the undesirables from their neighborhood. That’s a horrible example, because it couldn’t be further from NYC. A lot of NIMBY liberals are keeping San Fran that way for the foreseeable future.
This guy got really deFENCEive.
Cute ☺️.
I see what u did there 🤔
🤣🤣
I just lost more IQ 😂
@@georgeburns6512 my pleasure
Me: *Sees thumbnail and title* wonders how something like this happened
Reporter: live from Orlando
Me: oh now it makes sense
You sir/madam have made my day😂👍
I came here for this comment
I thought the same thing!! LOL!!
is it orlando that bad?
Dude my same reaction. Lololol
Imagine the empty plot owner casually taking a dip in the pool and parking his bike in the garage without a care in the world
Lmao
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol just cutting grass, drinking a beer. His wife probably puts on disguises to leave the house
If the garage has a door opener he probably can't get in, cause it's not his.
imnotabotrlyimnot if you watched the video technically it is. Actually it’s even more his than it is the neighbors according to the property lines.
I recommend a volleyball net over the pool and call it a day.
Sounds like a plan
Bes 2 outta 3 whoever wins gets that bit of the property
Hear, hear!
kylemlm, next he’ll run the fence through the house, legally he can.
Dude!
U r the MVP!!!
👍
*5 star contractor*
Contractor: As long as I get paid I get the job done. I'll put a fence right over the pool if that's what you want. Hey customer's always right.
Imagine being the peon from the fence company showing up and looking at the work order. Like... uhhhhhhh....
When your Sims game has a corrupted file...
Coefficient of Drag 😂😂😂👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I'm laughing way to hard.
They should make a game with HOA property and go from there doung quests to fight HOA
😂😂😂😂 👏👏👏
I was waiting for someone to make a Sims joke LMAO
"Don't pee in my pool!"
"It's my part of the pool!"
Lmao
This comment deserves more likes. 🤣
i’m gonna swim to the other house!
Russians: *OUR* Pool
Or crap
He’s paying taxes on that part of the land, not the homeowner, so why should the homeowner be allowed to go on that guys property, he’s not paying for it
I think they cleared that up with the fence
I don’t understand why he didn’t sell the owner the portion of the lot instead of spending thousands installing a fence to prove a point..
Exactly I don’t think dumbasses understand that. The homeowners know exactly where their property ends yet they built their shit on the other guys property
@@mjo3275 Maybe he wants to build on it, and selling that portion would make the remaining lot too small.
@@mjo3275 who said that the homeowner offered to buy it?
This sounds like my old house. New neighbor got dogs. Attached a fence to my fence that was 6 feet on to my property. I went into foreclosure. The house next door was sold 5 years after the fence was attached. When my house was resold. Glad the new owner took back the 6 Foot of property. Don't blame the Man who put the fence up between the pool and garage. Good for him. I felt the same way.
I would have called the lawyer immediately. If the dog bites someone and it's on YOUR side, guess who gets sued?
I have bad neighbors two houses down. They hire people all the time they trespassing and destroy things all the time and no one complained about these people who been doing the same project for months.
No, this was ignorant and immature.
Did they want 6 feet of your property, or where they just truing to contain their dog? You’re one of those that thinks building 2 fences one foot apart is reasonable.
@@jpb544188why because he wanted his property
Florida could have its own reality show called, “Today in Florida...”
I am pretty sure all major states can have their own sitcom.
No way man, you are being played.
Casey Flentye please man, google any major state like California, New York, Texas and choose any date and you will see that each of them will have stories of their own.
Casey Flentye another thing you fail to understand is that Florida has no laws in terms of privacy so everything is out in the open.
Casey Flentye you must be living in a tiny bubble if you believe that each state doesn’t have their own crazy things happening day in and day out.
Who controls the garage clicker 🤔
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jeff Flo ~Homeowners have the clicker and the vacant property owner has the battery to the opener. 😂😂😂
@@GodBlessedAmerica A clever question, being answered with a clever response? Is this pre-2016? Where am I? What is life?
PRYVTgomerPYLE
1-Yes
2-No
3-Who knows 🤷🏼♂️
4- The one chance you’re given to make a difference. Live it to the fullest. 🇺🇸
Oh weird, a city government didn't do their job correctly. Unheard of!
Democrats...
and the problem is we have an entire generation who think more government is the answer 😀
City jobs are for people who can't hack it in the real world.
This is why you should hire private sector companies. The government jobs are useless.
No, not a city... the guy who guilt a house on someone else's property
This reminds me so much of the episode from that 70’s show when bob thought Reds house was part of his property and took half his garage. Turned out the blueprints were upside down and Red owned part of bobs house 😂😂😂. This is the kind of stuff from sitcoms not real life lmao.
Florida man builds fence through pool.
There. Fixed the title.
Exactly lol
that explains everything
Bunker Sieben You must have family that retired there
Maxxz thank goodness I was lost!!
Florida. Always Florida... 🤣
The bank messed up. They should pay to have the property lines redrawn, and pay the owner for the property lost.
Not necessarily the bank looks more like the government when they did the permits
exactly.. why this stuff has to be so dramatic and stupid to get to this point is ridiculous... sigh.. and folks are really suffering and you are complaning about losing a few feet.. Granted... that is why it is good to get your house and property surveyed before any major construction.....
Makes since to me.
I was just about to say that all this could have been avoided
Bank only messed up in giving a loan to someone who couldn't pay for it. The foreclosure said is often done by a county sheriff that auctions the property. If the bank chose not to purchase the lot as basically they are paying themselves, that was their legal choice.
Let's say the bank gave out a loan for $200,000K house. At current interest rates, the total payback amount after 30 years of payments would be $376,200. Let's imagine the owner stayed 10 years making payments and then just plain stopped. That's 125,400 toward the balance. They're only in the hole $74,600. If someone wants to come along and buy the house for $75K, the bank can get out of that situation breaking even. Sometimes that's good enough as they aren't in the business to refurbish homes. What they really like is when someone comes around and buys the house at say $150K so they wind up in the black and the house is off their hands.
At a sheriff auction the bank's representatives will offer a certain amount or nothing if the house isn't worth it. So if the owner bought the house for $200K and immediately defaulted on it, the bank doesn't want someone to come in and buy the house for $50K so they take a $150K loss they'll never get back from the indebted owner. They'll bid against other buyers as they have deep pockets and they're basically paying themselves. That's why many homes are bought back by the banks that gave the loans.
Sometimes to avoid foreclosure banks will offer a short sale too. Sometimes that is an option and can help the party unable to pay the mortgage not to have to declare bankruptcy.
It is simple but a bit complicated. Weird. It is just a "system" they adhere to which ensures they break even or profit instead of lose money to someone who will just declare bankruptcy.
This is why you buy title insurance. And get the property surveyed and certified.
Thank you for this. I will remember in the event I buy a home.
@Fred Flintstone
So what do you recommend for first time home buyers who want to avoid lot disputes? Like say I want to move into an average neighborhood here in the USA. Mainly TX.
Title insurance does not cover this. A Survey before the purchase would find the issue.
In this case, it was clearly discussed in the listing there is an issue. New owner decided to proceed in buying the house anyways. Good luck with that mess.
Just by the empty lot.
@Darkfarfetch I don't think the city sold either property. A bank did.
This why I need my neighbors to have a good distance from my house to theirs
Or a good surveyor
yeah i never understood how ppl can like these suburban "window looking into another window" plots.....just unnerving!
This is Why I Stay away from People,
I totally get it
Yup
Especially some neighbors stay away from..
Seclusion is the key to not dealing with fucktards who stress you out
...and Florida
Pool volleyball has been taken to a whole other level.
😂😂😂😂💀
One wrong spike and you get impaled and also, make sure you leap out of the water with the force of a dolphin.
Forget buying a house, I’m saving to buy a private island 🏝. I can’t stand people...
There's room for up to 4 humans on my island. You're welcome to pitch a hut. ~Sadie 😆 ✌ 👍
@@TheRandomINFJ sign me up, please!😂😂😂
@@TheRandomINFJ me too limited time offer here we come >D
😁🤣🤣
There's one for sale in Washington state.4 homes are in it.
This looks like a Flintstones episode where Barney, and Fred were fighting over ownership of a backyard pool.
Yep. One of the funniest episodes 🤣
“This is MY side of the room, that’s YOUR side of the room, you stay on your si-...MOM! He’s on my side of the room!”
I'm not looking at you...I'm not looking at you...I'm not looking at you...I'm not looking at you....lol
Me and my brother when we were young
Fence looks messy takes away from the property. Sad when adults just dont try to have a conversation. The realtor should have got both parties together before the the eye store the fence was put up
Lola Renee fuck off, you shitbag. My analogy is not “dumb”. Clearly you are the dumb one, not getting the point of the joke. You are a miserable, stupid, joyless, self-hating sad little loser who has nothing better to do than post hateful comments online.
Lola Renee You’re too stupid to understand the joke. Adults can act just as territorial as children. Shut the fuck up, you humorless idiot.
New home owner: so is that our pool or his?
Realtor: yes
Too funny....!
Lol hahahaha
Iran Cruz fucking dead 😂🤣
Iran Cruz
realtor:
...........................⬅️sign here! 😂
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Listen up kids: Greed and Ignorance don't mix
like Baking soda and Vinegar
🤣🤣 who is the one being greedy and ignorant? It is his property after all.
Listen up kids: it is greedy to expect to own what you paid for. Give it away to be nice and enlightened. I don't care that you worked for years to buy it, Timmy, you're being greedy. What awesome pearls of wisdom.
@@dyhkpopedition1736 yet it's childish to try and resolve it by building a freaking fence over a pool and blocking a garage halfway... they could have resolved this way more mature... yet the owner of the vacant property thought it would fit to build a fence.... such childish shit man idk why you Americans have such a weird property system...
Jasper Pluk never said it wasn’t petty and childish. Actually it is so petty and childish that it made me laugh. I don’t remember the video too clearly but who’s to say they didn’t discuss anything beforehand.
Guarantee that fence job was a 100% pay up front kinda deal.
The municipality created a problem by splitting the lots without doing a survey
john seymoure typically when you buy a home you do a mortgage inspection, not a boundary survey. That is enough to tell you there is a problem to be addressed. Smart would have been finding the problem and taking care of it before you bought a problem. Now this will cost two owners problems. Whenever a lender gives you money for a home, they want to know that the improvements are on the property and your neighbors are not encroaching on to you.
If they had a inspection, the problem would have been known.
I worked as a land surveyor for 17 years and have dealt with this situation many times. Most lenders do not require a full blown boundary survey. They only require a mortgage inspection. Improvements are located and shown to the nearest foot on the drawing. There would have been a note on the drawing the surveyor would have recommended a boundary survey be done. A boundary survey hardly ever gets done with the purchase of a home! Most people would rather spend $300 for a inspection and not $1300 for a boundary survey.
Sean Cole in my state a title search is required, but no survey. Surveyor for 13 years brother. People blindly take the realtors word, "ya ya that telephone pole is where the line is, or that bush is the corner, etc. " Watch those ticks and snakes! You know.
Mike B I do realize not all lenders even require an inspection. That’s why these things happen.
@john seymoure
You are so right, that should have been done before closing.
Why doesn't the empty lot owner just sell the rest of the property to the house that is built already.
And triple the price tag...😎
In Australia you would just be made to rip out the pool and garage, you can't just build onto someone else's land 🤣
@@ArtyMars did you even watch the video? It was originally one property, the bank/town didn't rezone it properly
It was two properties owned by one person.
ArtyTay really? The aboriginal people are coming to tear down everything that has been built on their land. 😃
I think everyone is forgetting who the real idiots are. When the bank foreclosed, they should have listed both parcels under the same auction. 🤷♂️ Problem solved from 3 minutes of research on the banks end
The chances of both properties being owned by the same bank is small. I realize you said banks, plural. Just wanted to add that.
It isn't the lending companies interest to litigate these type of discrepancies. Their interest is to unload them.
The buyers have an interest in them and will settle in civil court.
David Miller
Bank’s end - indicating possession, not plural.
If you watch the video again, you will notice that both parcels were owned by the bank. Therefore they are responsible. Your poor attitude that is not their problem is exactly why real estate laws exist. They had a legal responsibility to disclose this to the buyer..... or the most common sense option, make it a multi-parcel auction.
@@topcomment3816
From the video, it was disclosed. That's why it didn't sell and agents were dismissing it. It went to auction.
This happens so many times. Usually not a dwelling structure. More often just a wall or a driveway.
Real estate laws exist for the same reasons why all laws exist. To provide a clear understanding of rights.
This is a nothing burger. It will play out just as I described earlier. Because those are the choices.
I don't know what the properties sold for, but from experience, I'm sure the bank could've made more on them if they followed your advice. To just seperate or combine. Therefore ridding it of any litigation matters. But thats not the interest of banks. Their interest is in contracts. Seems wasteful, but thats what they do. They move on.
Some smaller lending companies have been doing these practices lately. This helps them to limit losses in their books to keep credit with bigger banks that back them.
David Miller
I’m seriously starting to think that you haven’t even watched the video 🤔
Yeah, sounds like the bank got greedy
My parent bought our house in 1991. And the neighbors pool was over our property line, probably around 10ft over, and my dad was fine with it. They let us use the pool anytime we wanted as well. He looked at it as, as long as he’s not using that piece of property, it wasn’t a big deal. Just a couple weeks ago she had the pool removed. It needed too much work to keep open and she wanted her yard back. Of course, we also get along great with our neighbors.
??? What is your point??
@@trawlins396 That chocolate taste better than vanilla?🤷♂️
@@trawlins396 The Point is that not all incorrect property line issues end with people being assholery to one another...
@@amgooder yes it does!!
And if someone drowned in that pool, who would get sued? Both families.
Can you imagine the fencing companies reaction when the vacant lot owner called for estimates.
Lol that's what I was thinking!
Daniel Ramos “Sir, i don’t understood; the fence will be IN the pool?”
Mom can i go swimming sure son just dont swim under the fence lmfao
Swim under it you wouldn't be shocked anyway then go play sum basketball
I'd swim under the fence and flip off the stupid neighbor. I give zero fucks.
goof ball 😂😂😂😂
@@Network126 the neighbor never comes there all he owns is the basketball goal and a tiny piece of a pool
goof ball son finds out there’s another fence underwater
I love living in the country. My nearest neighbor is a half mile down the road.
That made me smile when she said 'this lot isn't big enough for a house'. Here in the UK we'd put 3 properties on that or a block of 6 flats.
Ha! In Hong Kong they'd put a 40 storey building.
@@xpusostomos In Manhattan they would also...
In Texas it ain't even big enough for a garage!
Welcome to the world of zoning. Only certain "size" houses can be built in that zone.
Update the guy with the smaller piece of land was allowed to build a house on his property before it was deemed too small so they didnt let him. Neighbors arent happy because the fence dispute is still there and will become and eyesoar.
Damn, I thought I hated my neighbor.....!
🙊🙉🙈😭🤣🤣🤣🤣
Try living next to a meth dealer... :/
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
PRYVTgomerPYLE I bet you’re up all day and night trying to find a way to get him out of there. Maybe even up for days at a time!
@@FuzRModz Yeah for sure man... What ever clever little pun you can make that has you sleeping better at night...
See, I can be a prick too.
Why would you buy a house that has a property line dispute? Does the Title Insurance cover litigating this fiasco for the new owner?
As stated in the report, the property was sold at auction. The buyer clearly didn't perform the requisite due diligence regarding the property lines and what appeared to be a steal turned out to be a nightmare.
Who knows, maybe he bought it so cheap that he's willing to wear the issue.
@@greg6363 I have no understanding of American property law. But why would it be a nightmare? Like, if I didn't care about having a garage or pool, it seems like a really good deal.
They bought it at auction.. You must be blonde!
Same question I had. Why buy into a headache?
I found the properties on google maps and it looks like the fence was removed and there’s a gate that leads to the pool. I’m assuming there’s one owner for both properties now.
I'm curious to know which realtor duped someone into buying a house that was partially overlapping someone else's property line.
I think they said it was bought at an auction. Which if they're going to do that, go survey the property first always.
they lit explain it in the video, but ill explain it since you missed it. both lots were owned by the same person. the guy knocked down a house on one lot and built a new one on the other. the reason the pool went over the boundary is because the guy who built the pool owned the adjacent lot as well so it was still his property. when the house went into forclosure the lots were sold individually and two dif people bought them.
It was bought at a foreclosure auction, idiot.
Realtors are BS artists, back stabbed and liars, to be sure (I was licensed, so...) but they're not responsible for land surveys. Sorry.
Did you even pay attention 🙄🤡
Should of electrified the fence aswell for added excitement whilst taking a dip
And "should of" stayed at school
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“Hey Kids we don’t have enough money for a pool so let’s just split the neighbors pool?”
The house next to my neighbors was foreclosed and it had a pool, they made a liftable door thing in the backyard fence and just used that houses pool
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Sounds like an episode of Extreme Cheapskates
I see this is 4 years old. I'd be interested in an update if they settled things out
I was hoping to find out as well.
Florida never lets me down!! Always invites itself to the party
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And this time it's a pool party!😀
@GoogleCensorsTheTruth 34 I lived in Florida longer than California and is way worse than California.
@GoogleCensorsTheTruth 34 Did you even read what I said?
@GoogleCensorsTheTruth 34 Your reading skills are complete ass. I clearly said, "I lived in Florida longer than California".
This is how passive aggressive entitled children are when they don’t get their way.
Yes, it's called America.
Children aren't really passive aggressive though. They're pretty truthful (regular aggressive) when they're not getting their way. It's immature grown ups that behave passive aggressively
well it IS his property. and why cant he build a proper house on the property? seems big enough to me . Just need a smart architect
@@jussayinmipeece1069 it is his property. Since he decided to be an entitled twat, his would be neighbors won't help him get a house built. He can do what he likes with his property (well, almost), but he sure as shit will suffer the consequences.
@Harzburgitic i guess buddy there felt that if someone takes 25% of your property then you should just shrug your shoulders move on and say , oh well
He's smart to build the fence. Even if incorrectly located, a fence or structure can establish a property boundry after a given number of years in many states. Boundry disputes can take many years to resolve. It's best to establish the correct line immediately, and then wait for the court system to sort it out.
This was actually the best move by BOTH home owners. They need to sue the city of Orlando to get the money to remove the garage and pool.
He’s not smart he’s a petty child
I guess I’m confused at how it went back to being two property’s after it was combined into one by one owner.
The home builder never legally went through the process of combining the two lots into a single lot (which makes sense-- if they'd stayed in the house that would've been an unnecessary expense). So legally there's always been two lots there.
In this news clip the neighbor who is a realtor says that the city should've made the bank legally have the lot lines redrawn before it resold these lots. The bank did well for themselves selling off these problematic properties and sticking the new owners with the expensive legal issues. Having the lot lines redrawn is a no go for the empty lot owner as their lot would be too small for them to legally build a house upon. If the bank had the lot lines redrawn prior to the sales they would've lost a lot of money trying to sell a piece of land with incredibly limited utility which is probably why they didn't do it. The best solution would've been for the bank to remove the garage and pool prior to the sales, but banks understandably like to spend as little as possible on foreclosures.
It's a crummy situation for both lot owners. I don't envy either of them.
The old property owner to the house sold the house on the 1st lot and the land in the other lot separately. If they owned both they should have sold both together to the same buyer.
@@MM-jf1me Technically the city dropped the ball on this, cause when the plans were submitted to build the house and garage they should have automatically redrew the property lines then.
The lot line between plots was never removed they just used it as one property
Imagine a portion of the actual house was over the property line. Probably have a fence through part of your kitchen
How about the garage
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Nah man that's what chainsaws are for catch them gone and cut off the overlapping section
LoL
You don't get away with entering a dwelling that someone lives in and you don't, even if you own it or part of it. So your fence in the kitchen would get you in a cage.
Guy with the empty lot and fence should have bought the house for cheap when it was at auction
He's probably a broke bitch
He tried to buy the house but was denided by the bank.
The city also allowed him to build a house but the protey line is still not fixed.
@@starandfox601 Interesting, thanks for the intel. Odd choices by the banks. You'd think they'd want to dump it, and the logical choice to avoid further issues, would be the owner of the other lot.
@Marshall Carwood The lot was sold after the house was sold.
Also he's not playing a stupid game.he's trying to protect the land he payed for.the house owner has no legal claim to that land/part of the pool.
Also that's a great way to run into legal trouble by playing "games" back over land you do not own.
@Marshall Carwood he didn't own both plots of land.that was a different preson who defaulted on both plots.
What happened was 1 preson owned both plots then defaulted and lost both of them.then instead of combining the plots like the bank should of done they decided to sell the plots separately leaving the iusse up to the buyers.
Then the this guy bought the lot and found out a lot of his plot was taken up by the pool and wasn't allowed to build his home.resulting in him seeking legal advice and having to put the fence up to battle it out in court to get what he payed for.
It's not a game at all.
I didn't need to know that this was in Orlando for me to know that such a crazy story had to be in Florida...
Agreed. We have some really special people in our state
i keep hearing that florida is the most amazing paradice YES!! if you can keep the gators from swimming in your pool and the bears out out of the flower bed and hope that your house isn't built over a sinkhole and hope your neighbors are not drug dealers don't forget about hurricane season hope your house doesn't end up the atlantic ocean oh yes the cockroaches might eat you dog then there's the cost of living everybody is searching for paradise other than that it's great
@@stevenherrold5955 You forgot the snakes that crawl and the other kind---on 2 legs.
What does CTG SAY........
@@bmillz8982 All crazy ppl are from the Bronx or Florida. Lol
the listing clearly states the property does not include the pool or garage, so what say does the new home owner have in the matter? none is the answer.
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the bossness Exactly, it was really pissing me off.
Yesssssss
Drove me nuts
Realator vs nukular. Which hurts worse? lol
@@Fremen1971
Southerners say Nukular. "Realator"? Never heard that one before.
But like I need the update I am just dying to know what actually happened 😂
Google: "Orlando decides to allow new house in dispute with a fence through a garage". From Feb 24, 2020.
@@airplaneengine according to that story the dispute is still ongoing so presumably the fence is still there.
Someone go over there and take a look!
This is like a real life Flintstones episode, the one where Fred and Barney build a pool in between their properties and then end up getting into an argument and putting up a fence right through the middle of it.
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That's gotta be where they got this idea from lol
I don't remember seeing that episode!
What's Flintstones?
@@okAngelface they're vitamins... 🙄
2:21 The most ridiculous part about this whole story is at the end. The city makes it illegal to build a house on a small lot. Zoning codes like that one were put in place to ban less wealthy people from having a home in that neighborhood. It's outrageous that is still on the books. Any zoning code that segregates people by class needs to be abolished.
This reminds me of when my new neighbor threw a hissy and tried to start a holy war with me because I wouldn’t let him park his boat in my front yard. The “but you’re not uSiNg it” argument doesn’t quite work there, buddy. 🤣
Oh my gosh, my next door neighbor parks her daughters broken down car in front of my house, I said why don't you just put your car up more in your driveway... then she brought herself ANOTHER car. Two in the driveway, junk car in front of my house.
@@brot5246 Yeah, that sucks, buddy, sorry about that! We decided to allow at least that of our neighbors just to try and keep some peace, but putting your boat on our actual front yard, when they had two acres of land already was not gonna happen 😂. Some people are just users.
I had a neighbor do that!!! He parked his boat on my driveway because he owned 2 or 3 ft of it on the other side of his fence which is bullshit. Luckily we were just renting so we were nice enough to not care. People are so trashy.
Before moving in to his new house, on of my brothers neighbors were parking their cars in his driveway. His 1st day moving in he asked around, and the next door neighbor ran out and moved his cars.
@@brot5246 if its parked on the street you dont own the street. even if its in front of your house. Many seem to have this misconception. You just have crappy neighbors. This is when an HOA is nice if you like to keep streets free and clear. But if its no HOA and its on the street, you nor anybody cant stop someone from parking their car in front of your house. And they can park it there for as long as your city's laws allow it to. It sucks but thats how it goes
The city council apparently wants to sit on the fence for this one. 😂
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I heard "Orlando" and my surprise evaporated
What happened during the permit process? This should have been caught before hand.
This remind me of that episode in that 70's show when Bob finds a paper stating he owns some of the Formans property (Reds garage), but it turns out he was holding it upside down & in the end Red owned a piece of Bobs property(His kitchen). 😁
HAHA ! I Remember that !
Lmfao.
That’s my favorite show
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Happened on "The Jetsons" S1 Ep #21 Cogswell puts up a new building & George Jetsons looks at the blueprints and sees that the building has crossed over 6 inches over the property line of his boss Mr Spacely' lot. Who then demands Cogswell tear his building down. Turns out George had the blueprints upside down and it's Spacely's building sitting 6 inches over Cogswell's property line.
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Simple! I see a basketball court, play 21. Winner takes it all.
either way, if i'm the property owner of the basketball court, I'll trespass you for beating me!
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Lmfao yessss! Fair and square
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The problem is a financial one for the owner of the empty lot. Without a fence on the real property line, he would have to take matters to court and bear the costs associated with that. With a fence in place, it's now up to the one with house to take it to court and bear the costs. Taking down the fence in the middle of the night is not a solution either, as the matter would then be upgraded from a neighbour dispute to a criminal offense. Not a lawyer, but have seen this exact situation before.
Some one took the whole "this side of the room is yours and this idea is mine" blue tape argument to a whole new level....
The empty plot guy isn't trying to build a house there. He's probably just some sneaky investor looking to double the price of that land by selling it to the new house owner.
@john seymoure same could be said of empty plot guy, he should have thought twice before buying a property that has a driveway and a pool going through it. The true fault lies in the authorities who let the divided sale happen and the dumbass who sold the property in two pieces.
john seymoure wouldn’t it be easier to sue for the value of that land?
He lost all that land.
Once a house is there it's there.
Your making assumptions based off no evidence. Point is the other original property owner of the other plot built on his land. He’s within his rights to put up a fence. Hell if he wanted to cement his 1/2 the pool and tear down his part of the garage. That would be his prerogative. If I’m expected to pay taxes on my property I using all my property.
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I would think a title company or zoning inspector would've addressed this mess before the new house was built?
My 9 yr old: Daddy, why don't they just ask the neighbor to trade them the extra part where their pool is?
Me: because some people would rather be right than smart, kiddo.
exactly
If the house owner gave away his garage and pool his property would be worth a lot less. That's why
I can already see the “can I talk to the manager” haircut on the lot owner
Hahaha
And her name is.....KAREN😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That is a level of petty I've never seen before. Do your due diligence before buying property. It's not worth the aggravation or cost to buy a lot that has that kind of issue
Ashlie Neevel so true.
There is this show called Neighbor from Hell in Investigation Discovery channel....people are literally insane, neighbor’s literally kill each other over these things 😩😩😩
The guy who bought the lot without a house on it probably bought it knowing the issues and assumed he could basically extort the homeowner into paying an exorbitant amount for it. Otherwise I'm sure the homeowner or even real estate company that sold it would have purchased the lot and avoided all of this.
This is such a strange level of pettiness but at the same time understandable, why should you pay property taxes for someones else's property, each square foot bumps up the price. This is completely the cities fault and not the homeowners or the realtors who sold the property.
What does it have to do with the city? This is a private matter. Lawyers and land surveyors. Either should have caught it. It's THEIR job.
It has nothing to do with property taxes. Had he allowed the new neighbors to utilize the property over time the neighbor can CLAIM said property as their own!! 🤷🏿♀️ It's basically like Squatters Right..
And no realtor sold the property is was purchased at an auction.
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 it was sold at auction..
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 The city of Orlando allowed the builder to be permitted to be built across two separate properties. That is not legal. They should have required the builder to combine properties before permitting the house to build across the property line. The end result here is the city of Orlando will be sued for the sales price of the property with the house.
pettiness? how about you WASTE hundreds of thousands of dollars on a house that's not even on your own property? is that petty? is it petty to raise alarm about your property being stolen? what's petty is your desire to point out absurd things. pettiness. this is NOT about anything petty. I bet you have never owned property. your take is a strong indication you have never owned property before.
Oh man that's straight silliness
"This lot isn't big enough for a house".
Jaw hits ground - living in a 1850s small cottage in London, UK a fraction of that size plot.
You would be surprised at some of the building codes in the US.
A lot of places here have city or county ordinances that say things like "must build home at least 3,000 square feet" or "must be X feet from front, side, rear of property" or must have at least half acre lot, shit like that. But yeah, they don't let you build "small" houses below 2,xxxx sq feet in many neighborhoods.
@@user-nh3gu1ge3d my house is about 100 sq meters (about 1000 square feet) ;-(
@@jca111 Mine is about 2500 but I think I'd be happy with 1k, as long as you live alone or with a partner only, and you have a nice 1k sq ft. Lower energy bills, maintenance, less junk, etc. Sometimes it's nice to have a "big" place, sometimes not. Life is about balance. If you got a family, it's too small imo.
Being in London, I wouldn't be surprised if your "tiny" house didn't cost more than one of these big houses. I don't know why/how you can live in such an expensive city.
Them: how petty are you
*ME: SHOWS VIDEO*
@waterside Considering it's already built they are being petty. Adults would work it out with legal work and some money. Working together is the way to fix this, but they just wanna be dicks.
Chris Gilliam Man Stuff It’s like people who road rage, except they’re your neighbors. 😅
Someone f'd up...oh it was the City, what a shock!
that's merely the opinion of the "real-a-tor", apparently.
Why won't the owner of the house just call the garage and a pool a loss. I mean it is what it is, should of checked property line before buying.
In UK.. They would build 12 houses on that empty plot... Minimum Spec agenda 21 prison cells...
They’d do that here too. I watched the house across from my childhood home get demolished.... and four duplex houses get built on to it.... that’s now a minimum 16 people on that one little block, all with a car...they have absolutely no yard to even put a bloody plant pot let alone a tree or lawn (upside for the yuppies that live there) to mow. It’s insane ... and I’ll fight for my childhood home not to have the same fate. A 22 year old developer keeps harassing my parents but they won’t budge and nor will I when they’re gone.
Oops sorry....here in Australia. 😂
@@bananapeaches6370 gentrification taking over.
Probably 2 or 1 as they are building them big on a suburb like that in England.
Jaana Swan 22 my arse. Maybe 32
THOR: “you people are so petty”
Avoid this by paying to have a property title search and have your property surveyed before signing the paperwork. Otherwise cutting corners gets you this kind of nightmare.
Like houses last on the market long enough for you to even do this anymore....
Blackrock doesn't care about boundary lines bc their aim is own everything anyways. They'll outbid real families for homes, it's happening to two different families I'm friends with in two different states. One has already sold their home and can't find one to buy bc they keep getting snatched up immediately and the other is now looking to stay with their home and the kids and her husband is going to have to work and partially live out of state.
We don't have the luxury of time in buying a home anymore.
Absolutely.
Such poor city administration. The city is the Regis of administering property!!!! YOU LITERALLY HAVE ONE JOB!!!! ONE JOB!
Anyone have an update on this story? I’m curious to know the outcome.
AwkwardShinobi 2020 as of January of this year, still the same. No one has budged.
Don't know, they're still fencing about it.
@JaXX The guy really oughta just not be a dick about it. No one lives there, so either pay for demolition and fix the problem or just let someone move tf in and quit the bullshit. It says he intends to build a house in the smaller portion anyways, so just do it and leave the other one alone already. Waste of everyones time just because the original builder took loans from different banks.
@@SethB420 did you watch the video? Its too small to be allowed to build a house there. Which makes the land useless for him
@@SethB420 Lol why would someone pay property tax for someone else? Double insult! Takes your land and government bills you!
But, this was a dispute with my nieghbor where i usto live! Half of my driveway was on his lot but what he didnt tell u is half of his drive way was on the other nieghbors plot! So all of the property lines were off 5 feet makeing everyones drive way on the next lot!
Same story for me, we own a portion (~4 feet) of the neighbour's driveway all the way to their backyard. This was discovered 5 years ago, and neither of us has been affected in anyway. Guess that's what happens when you deal with two adults. That said, this pool/garage takes up significantly more property than my ~4' of land, so I understand this is a different case. However, as of January this year neither person has budged so it just seems like both people are losing out.
@@DozIT me i had no problem he actually was useing 6 feet of our property in the back all i cared about was him telling me all the time i can stop you from parking in your driveway! What a jerk!😂😂😂😂
I never understood neighbors who just can’t get along over stupid stuff like this. We’ve been living on our land for over 12 years the lot next to us was vacant until last year. The new neighbor when he bought realized our fence was about 6’ over. We didn’t build the fence we bought it that way.
This doesn’t sound like much 6 feet but imagine 6ft on a half mile fence. He asked us to move the fence we had it surveyed realized he was right we moved the fence. Which then made us realize our neighbors on the other side was 6ft over. We didn’t mention it to them we just let it be.
There’s no animosity still like the new neighbor. We all get along and now he just has extra grass to cut. C’est la vie!
@@sepharaSwift ii never got it either. But hey if it made them happy! 😀😀😀😀plus i didnt tell him 5 feet of his back yard was also our's!
Patti Hainline Clearly you aren’t working with spellcheck...
Of COURSE Orlando City Govt did nothing...THAT would have required conscious thought AND effort. Something we're SORELY lacking...in BOTH departments, and in SPADES.
Realest words ever
And of course the lot owner acted like a damn 3 year old child instead of talking with the guy that just bought the house. I'm sure that neighbor relationship will be real swell now. I mean maybe do better research himself when buying the lot so he doesnt get stuck with a lot too damn small to build a house (I'm assuming that's a city ordinance because you can absolutely fit a horse on that lot).
They could just share the pool? Better than having a fence in it 🤷♂️
It is clearly the city's fault!
How immature and childish Damn😒
What do you want him to do? The city wont even let him build on it because of the land takken up by the pool. That's ridiculously un fair to him.
"The lot isn't big enough for a house"
come to Brazil, you'll change your mind
Lol 1st world country problems
Easily can fit 20 brick houses built like apartments
Ah, but the law won't allow you to build 1 house there. It's illegal to build less than a certain square footage in certain neighborhoods, they won't give you a permit to build it. If you build without a permit, they make you tear it down.
I do agree that this is first world country problems.
Or any Latin country
@@lisakickme6288 *Latin American. Latin European countries are not like that ;)
Well That’s one way of cutting your pool care costs in half...
Zane Dzikonski I highly doubt the guy who put up a fence isn’t going to help pay. 😂
Amber Ambwee Yeap...pretty much a Mexico is gonna pay situation there
That fence in the pool can make a great volleyball net.
Property lines are Property lines. Why is this difficult?
It's not for people like you and me who understand how the world works.
Why did the owner of the other lot allow part of the pool and garage to be built on his property though in the first place? It’s not the people who bought the house fault they want to use their stuff
@@Snjfkdkams You should watch the video.
You buy two properties next to each other and build on both. Then, the bank forecloses and there are still two properties. Those two properties are sold to two different people. So right back at you, "Why is this difficult?"
the number of people calling this guy childish is insane. You would have to be mentally deficient or a child to be perfectly content with giving away 1/8th of your property for free