Wow!! How exciting. I would love to shadow u for a day. Me and a zillion other subscribers. But I am content with living vicariously with the Big Build. Nice to c u can avoid the big steels. I am anxious to c where your Oak Framework goes and how it adds to the structure. Also like it that u don't sweat the small stuff like skimping on timber. QUALITY FIRST AND ONLY!! I understood only a little of your conversation with the designer chap. But it will become more clear as we go. England is so very advanced with technology. And RC is right there at the top of the heap!
Hi Robin, I’m 71 years old an enthusiastic amateur DIY’r. I’ve lived in the same house for 46 years, and in that time I’ve extended, demolished rebuilt re designed, made a lot of mistakes and learned a lot. Such a pity that these videos weren’t around years ago, I’ve loved every minute of your videos and I’m learning so much. As they say it’s never too late to learn. Thankyou 👍
The lattice 'ridge' truss is such a civilised way of supporting a roof like this. Too many times I do similar roofs but off twin steel beams supporting top hat trusses and then the rest loos fill. Carpenters dream roof this one😎😎
You`re right about engineers , mate. They take a simple design and turn it into something you could hang a battleship off! As the main contractor or builder, remember architects and engineers are just another subbie and treat them as such 😎
Thanks for sending me the link to this video Robin it’s very informative I don’t like students in buildings personally and the idea of a lattice ridge really appeals to me can I have to have a word with my architect and my engineer and see what they say it’s only a span of 7 m on an isometric roof very straightforward this is going to be my last build as it’s Where I am going to retire Cheers Robin Pete Edmondson
Hello Robin, Best timber, waiting to see how the roof will shape up stage by stage by professional carpenter Robin. You are not only carpenter but professional builder and designer. Brilliant skills, knowledge and expertise in the big build has made me learn alot more.... Every video of yours teaches me something new every time.... God bless you. Ahmed, Best wishes from Leicester ENGLAND
class vid robin, ive been flat out lately with kitchens and lately a house refurb job. would absolutely love a roof job. any news on the roofing square? noticed a few on recent vids. id love to know how to properly use one of these mega confusing things
Great video, as always Robin. The 3D visualisation tool looks amazing - a bit like us being able to see what you envisage in your mind's eye when you look at a project. Best bit though (for me) - Scotland...."It's like another country! Well, it IS another country!" Cheers, Robin. You absolutely get it.
10:31 thanks Robin now i know where our great lumber goes :P and now i know who to blame why the lumber is so expensive here Sweden, jokes a side! :D i enjoy your videos and i learned some great stuff by watching them before i started to build a garage and now it's almost finished! So a huge thanks Robin :)
May I ask what software you are using to design the roof structure? I admire your way of doing work and seek to be like that. Thank you for sharing your experience!
Like mytec been using a company DWB (Hooked up from my client) they do great work with posi joist, truss and roof design couldn't recommend them enough.
Robin I can sense that excitement through the TV to get stuck in with all that timber hope it all starts well for you. I'm as excited to see how this roof job develops. I've been doing steelwork for a good 10 years welding grinding but wood seems such a cleaner warmer material to work with deffo need to start a timber project! Good luck mate 👌
Great video as always! Its great to see such attention to detail which is massively lacking nowadays with people trying to do things as quickly as possible and having no pride. As a structural engineer myself (so admittedly some bias) we are often hamstrung by building regs for small domestic projects. I've done a lot of work on listed buildings, repair, conservation all with traditional timber frame construction and it's my preference to work with timber. It looks like you're replacing the ridge steel with a timber truss which is a great but most houses don't have the luxury of all that extra space at the ridge so require a steels which is alot shallower. I've specified ply box beams in the past to avoid steels and heavy solid timber sections. Pre fab timber trusses are great but are designed by the manufacturer as it's more economical for the client and engineer (I can design them but the fee just isn't there). Mitek and wolf systems to name a couple of companies who do this using Thier bespoke system. Also workmanship needs to be spot on as you're relying on the nail plates and accurate cuts to make it work, much better done in a factory than on site, especially if they don't have the same attention to detail as you do. There are many ways to skin a cat! People just have preferences on how they want something done.
Hi! I just wonder why you use impregnated timber in the roofstructure? Love your channel, it is interesting for me to see how you build in UK when I´m a carpenter from Sweden. Have a nice weekend!
Yes building regs are totally different in Scotland. Everything is built stronger and better insulated. Much more strict disability access laws. For example, trusses must be sheeted in ply or OSB before felt or membrane. Counter battens and then tiling battens there after. Tiles double nailed and clipped on top.
Far from it , steel purlins used mainly with wallplate bolted on top due to excessive spans This roof design isn't available by the looks of things as no supporting walls upstairs. Tiles or slates is the most important decision due to dead loads of roof. Cross battened roofs are the future as eliminates need for ventilation at soffit as can be placed over fascia. Also allows full depth of rafters to be insulated, no 50mm air gap required Triangulation is key in roof design and over engineering is a most Fantastic channel 👏👍
They pay crap money!! I was once asked to be a judge for a carpentry showdown on national TV I was really keen until they said it was not paid!! I bet the researchers who where contacting me on many occasions where on 50k a year!!!
Without getting too political. White middle aged heterosexual men seem to be the only demographic that you can blame for everything nowadays but watching things like this remind me that we didn’t get where we are by exploiting people but by innovation, self drive, and a healthy work ethic. What a brilliant video
Clevett - one question, concerning all the materials from the merchant: Do you/your company pay for that in advance, does the customer or do you have a special arrangement the the merchant with monthly payments by you or your customer or something else ? I am asking, because I am thinking of starting a one-man show, here in Denmark with landscaping, and small carpentry tasks etc. and wondering about those costs. How to take care of expenses. (I do not want to be my customer's bank). Love everything about your channel. Have a nice weekend. Cheers.. Per
Hi Per, we always buy our materials as we use them, we order on good time, negotiate a fair price and my client wil make the payment if its a large amount, it is unnecessary turnover for me passing through my bank account!!
Welcome to my World and poxy trusses. Your ones are a bit different in that they go onto a load bearing wall. We don't do that here as internal walls non load bearing. The truss company I buy from use Mitek software. I used to work for a company that used a different software. I love the way you say price goes up just go back to the customer. As I said before if only it was that easy. I'm on a bank pay fixed payment contract. Customer borrowing 100% of their limit. No where to go. A lot of Builders in same boat. There was a figure released the other day 160 odd thousand contracts have been cancelled. No money in the job or no materials. And now as trades drop out shortage of tradies. My roof and wall cladding are Colorbond steel products. My supplier told me this week price hike of 38% in February. This is the type of thing we are currently facing in Oz. I seriously believe this will be my last build. It will break me.
Hi again Robin. Didn't get a reply from you last time i posted, so i thought i would ask again. Why is it in England you build your roof lines intruding into the second story living spaces, thus robbing the occupants of a decent stand up head height in certain areas? This practice is not carried out in Australia where i live. All upper floor areas have floor to ceiling heights of around 3 to 4 metres. Is it something to do with your building codes over there? Greg.
I think it's to do with aesthetics and keeping the internal and external as original looking as possible to older building design. I live in Melbourne now and so many of the mcmansions here probably have the head space you speak of but the designs are awful and age very badly.
Hi Greg, apologies for not answering your other question, I have lots of comments for whivh I am grateful but not so much time to answer!!, the simple answer is planning department restrictions that mean that you are unable to change an existing dwelling that drastically, it can depend on where the building is, how old the building is (maybe if it has listed status) and many other beurocratic rules!! We do add complete storeys to dwellings and a recent rule will allow this without planning permission using something called permitted development but the qualifying criteria is very narrow!!! Hope that helps mate, thanks for watching bro!!
@@ukconstruction Thanks for getting back Robin. OK, that explains it well. Sad to see Governments and Councils with their crazy rules and regulations spoiling things for a lot of people. We get that kind of rubbish in Australia as well. Also, i do enjoy your shows. Always a pleasure to watch a quality professional man at work. Cheers, Greg.
Good luck with the Alloway timber! been subbing for another builder who uses their timber and on the whole it's shocking, bows, cups and twists come as standard along with depth discrepancies of up to 10mm.
Mate, I have worked with Alloway timber for decades and they use the same importers and growers as most of the other merchants, its not just their timber that is subject to natural distortion but they will always change a product or let you select, tell the boss to go look first!!
Really? seen it done hundreds of times, some of the roads in Greater London (loft conversion capital of the word) have masses of cables and masses of crane deliveries, in my experience most of the drivers are super skilled and in the case of our on this day, he was very calm and methodical, there are risks in every delivery by hand or by crane in my opinion?
@@ukconstruction totally agree Robin 99% of drivers are absolute pros and merchant drivers are some of the best out there. But I've worked for two of the big nationals and their H&S policies would have you down the road, whether you'd done any damage or not. Loving the series btw 👍👍
I have the luxury of working with innovative companies and brands to achieve my goals, and yes in some cases I get paid from brands, in this case this is just normal business for me no supplier had to pay me anything, I turn down loads of sponsorship opportunities purely because some viewers are very touchy about paid collaborations, my videos like other TH-camrs will always declare a paid sponsorship at the beginning in line with the rules of TH-cam etc where this happens
Just need the correct paperwork for building control, as a carpenter I do not have the letters behind my name that a structural engineer has so I am not able to officially design this roof, even though I did!!
@@ukconstruction As usual, isn't. We are extremely lucky that we are able to sign off any structure and avoid going to deal with Structural "scientist" that know a page more than a book.
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Wow!! How exciting. I would love to shadow u for a day. Me and a zillion other subscribers. But I am content with living vicariously with the Big Build. Nice to c u can avoid the big steels. I am anxious to c where your Oak Framework goes and how it adds to the structure. Also like it that u don't sweat the small stuff like skimping on timber. QUALITY FIRST AND ONLY!! I understood only a little of your conversation with the designer chap. But it will become more clear as we go. England is so very advanced with technology. And RC is right there at the top of the heap!
Nice one Bill!!!
Hands down one of the best channels in the UK - love the content Robin - keep it up. Would LOVE more long form stuff - could watch it all day!
Discussing plans and sketching on the floor with a mug in everyone's hand... brings back really nice memories.
Hi Robin, I’m 71 years old an enthusiastic
amateur DIY’r. I’ve lived in the same house for 46 years, and in that time I’ve extended, demolished rebuilt re designed, made a lot of mistakes and learned a lot. Such a pity that these videos weren’t around years ago, I’ve loved every minute of your videos and I’m learning so much. As they say it’s never too late to learn. Thankyou 👍
Thanks Richard!!
Please keep doing these videos Robin! I’m a 62 yr old chippy but through watching your stuff I’m still learning new things,thanks mate👍
Will do!
The reach on that crane was incredible!
The lattice 'ridge' truss is such a civilised way of supporting a roof like this. Too many times I do similar roofs but off twin steel beams supporting top hat trusses and then the rest loos fill. Carpenters dream roof this one😎😎
Apprentice carpenter's nightmare ?
@@thetessellater9163 You're not joking there😬
That computer walk thru is amazing!
Not in the building trade but enjoy watching all of your vids + the skill builder content!
Very insightful.
Great seeing a real craftsman. Well done Sir.
This series continues to impress and absorb me mate. Love how in depth you’ve taken this series. Next level stuff
Absolutely fantastic .... wonderful you share sooo much .... thanks always Robin.
WOW what a lovely designed roof. I love that idea of trusting the ridge. realy outside what i would have thought. NICE.
Great video Robin, as an electrical engineer who has always wanted to build my own oak framed house your videos are a great help and inspiring.
Superb work Robin. Saw in hand, or positioning materials - you're a master, and everything you share is really appreciated! Top man.
Thank you so much 😀
Exciting times! Looking forward to it. Cheers.
Cant wait to see this constructed. What a privilege it is to install such a structure!
Yes Ashley!!
Looking forward to seeing you lads construct the roof . That ladder truss is a brill idea.
You`re right about engineers , mate. They take a simple design and turn it into something you could hang a battleship off! As the main contractor or builder, remember architects and engineers are just another subbie and treat them as such 😎
Looking forward to seeing the roof being constructed. Amazing piece of kit being used with the crane on the lorry delivering the timber to the site
I love you Robin. There, I said it. Time to go back watching your videos
Thanks mate!!
Loving this build I'm glued!
damb that crane was sweet. it looked like he had plenty of boom left to give. he could go the same again with something light. amazing bit of gear.
Thanks for sending me the link to this video Robin it’s very informative I don’t like students in buildings personally and the idea of a lattice ridge really appeals to me can I have to have a word with my architect and my engineer and see what they say it’s only a span of 7 m on an isometric roof very straightforward this is going to be my last build as it’s Where I am going to retire
Cheers Robin
Pete Edmondson
Most welcome Peter
Hello Robin,
Best timber, waiting to see how the roof will shape up stage by stage by professional carpenter Robin.
You are not only carpenter but professional builder and designer.
Brilliant skills, knowledge and expertise in the big build has made me learn alot more....
Every video of yours teaches me something new every time....
God bless you.
Ahmed,
Best wishes from Leicester ENGLAND
Nice one bro
Great videos. I really enjoy these projects. Always great camera work.
Awesome, thank you!
Very nice
great video as always, if everyone on the job site had you attitude we'd build amazing houses
7:16 what software you used for the 3D model amigo ? thanks in advance
class vid robin, ive been flat out lately with kitchens and lately a house refurb job. would absolutely love a roof job. any news on the roofing square? noticed a few on recent vids. id love to know how to properly use one of these mega confusing things
Great content Robin. Big love from across the water in Ireland!
Great video, as always Robin. The 3D visualisation tool looks amazing - a bit like us being able to see what you envisage in your mind's eye when you look at a project.
Best bit though (for me) - Scotland...."It's like another country! Well, it IS another country!" Cheers, Robin. You absolutely get it.
Exactly. We never get grey sky like that up here. Beautiful sunshine and blue skies every day, unlike bleak, grey South England.
@@ricos1497 yeah....wasn't really referring to the weather. Never mind.
@@protectiongeek I know what you meant, I was just being cheeky.
10:31 thanks Robin now i know where our great lumber goes :P and now i know who to blame why the lumber is so expensive here Sweden, jokes a side! :D i enjoy your videos and i learned some great stuff by watching them before i started to build a garage and now it's almost finished! So a huge thanks Robin :)
Thanks Robin, It was deffo worth going through the logistics, If I ever need to embark on something similar myself
May I ask what software you are using to design the roof structure? I admire your way of doing work and seek to be like that. Thank you for sharing your experience!
The software is from a company called Mitek widely used by many truss manufacturers all over the world
Poetry in motion!
Like mytec been using a company DWB (Hooked up from my client) they do great work with posi joist, truss and roof design couldn't recommend them enough.
Robin I can sense that excitement through the TV to get stuck in with all that timber hope it all starts well for you. I'm as excited to see how this roof job develops. I've been doing steelwork for a good 10 years welding grinding but wood seems such a cleaner warmer material to work with deffo need to start a timber project! Good luck mate 👌
Great to see the roof starting looks great on the computer lay out , still a bit of an issue with getting timber over here 🤟🇮🇪☘️☺️👋
Looking forward to next phase Robin
Great video as always! Its great to see such attention to detail which is massively lacking nowadays with people trying to do things as quickly as possible and having no pride.
As a structural engineer myself (so admittedly some bias) we are often hamstrung by building regs for small domestic projects. I've done a lot of work on listed buildings, repair, conservation all with traditional timber frame construction and it's my preference to work with timber.
It looks like you're replacing the ridge steel with a timber truss which is a great but most houses don't have the luxury of all that extra space at the ridge so require a steels which is alot shallower. I've specified ply box beams in the past to avoid steels and heavy solid timber sections.
Pre fab timber trusses are great but are designed by the manufacturer as it's more economical for the client and engineer (I can design them but the fee just isn't there). Mitek and wolf systems to name a couple of companies who do this using Thier bespoke system. Also workmanship needs to be spot on as you're relying on the nail plates and accurate cuts to make it work, much better done in a factory than on site, especially if they don't have the same attention to detail as you do.
There are many ways to skin a cat! People just have preferences on how they want something done.
Hi! I just wonder why you use impregnated timber in the roofstructure? Love your channel, it is interesting for me to see how you build in UK when I´m a carpenter from Sweden. Have a nice weekend!
Sweden is a beautiful Country, I adore the timber houses with the red paint, 👍 🔨 🇮🇪
Looking forward to this👍
Really useful content. Thx)
Where it all started!
Yes building regs are totally different in Scotland. Everything is built stronger and better insulated. Much more strict disability access laws. For example, trusses must be sheeted in ply or OSB before felt or membrane. Counter battens and then tiling battens there after. Tiles double nailed and clipped on top.
My good God - I know the weather can get bad up there but that is really something else. The walls will probably fall down before the roof does!
I wouldn’t mind having just 20% of his enthusiasm….for anything!
That just took me back to the 80's TRANSFORMERS TRUCK'S IN DISGUISE
Now the fun starts. No Purlins I noticed, are they redundant these days?
Far from it , steel purlins used mainly with wallplate bolted on top due to excessive spans
This roof design isn't available by the looks of things as no supporting walls upstairs.
Tiles or slates is the most important decision due to dead loads of roof.
Cross battened roofs are the future as eliminates need for ventilation at soffit as can be placed over fascia.
Also allows full depth of rafters to be insulated, no 50mm air gap required
Triangulation is key in roof design and over engineering is a most
Fantastic channel 👏👍
Hell of a crane and a good looking batch of C24. But I reckon I saw him stretching the telephone lines though... Come on Robin: did he break them?
Cracking video Robin. Tea looked nice as well 😂
Ask Roger nicely and I'm sure he'd lend you his white board and marker pens😂👍
LOL
Something quite lumpy. Is lumpy a technical term?
Excuse the pun but looks like you have got your work cut out!!
Keep up the good work and stay safe.
Oh dear. I think you have blocked your skip in. And by the looks of it. It needs changing. Love your work
spot on
They had two weeks to get it!! They where too busy!!!
@@ukconstruction i feel your pain, no build ever goes smoothly, there's always something
Robin... You sir need your own t.v program.. You would make it big Time mate 100%
They pay crap money!! I was once asked to be a judge for a carpentry showdown on national TV I was really keen until they said it was not paid!! I bet the researchers who where contacting me on many occasions where on 50k a year!!!
Make sure you make some long videos of that roof getting built even if you have to pay someone haha I badly wanna see it. Cheers robin
Mick from Alloways Putney is the top man =D
Love the banter you get when working on projects like this. It really does make my day Ps why did everyones Yankee. Have a jubilee clip on it???
Stop it rolling when you put it down
Without getting too political. White middle aged heterosexual men seem to be the only demographic that you can blame for everything nowadays but watching things like this remind me that we didn’t get where we are by exploiting people but by innovation, self drive, and a healthy work ethic. What a brilliant video
Clevett - one question, concerning all the materials from the merchant: Do you/your company pay for that in advance, does the customer or do you have a special arrangement the the merchant with monthly payments by you or your customer or something else ? I am asking, because I am thinking of starting a one-man show, here in Denmark with landscaping, and small carpentry tasks etc. and wondering about those costs. How to take care of expenses. (I do not want to be my customer's bank). Love everything about your channel. Have a nice weekend. Cheers.. Per
Hi Per, we always buy our materials as we use them, we order on good time, negotiate a fair price and my client wil make the payment if its a large amount, it is unnecessary turnover for me passing through my bank account!!
Welcome to my World and poxy trusses. Your ones are a bit different in that they go onto a load bearing wall. We don't do that here as internal walls non load bearing. The truss company I buy from use Mitek software. I used to work for a company that used a different software. I love the way you say price goes up just go back to the customer. As I said before if only it was that easy. I'm on a bank pay fixed payment contract. Customer borrowing 100% of their limit. No where to go. A lot of Builders in same boat. There was a figure released the other day 160 odd thousand contracts have been cancelled. No money in the job or no materials. And now as trades drop out shortage of tradies. My roof and wall cladding are Colorbond steel products. My supplier told me this week price hike of 38% in February. This is the type of thing we are currently facing in Oz. I seriously believe this will be my last build. It will break me.
I,m a young carpenter myself would love to come and work for you !
Hi again Robin. Didn't get a reply from you last time i posted, so i thought i would ask again. Why is it in England you build your roof lines intruding into the second story living spaces, thus robbing the occupants of a decent stand up head height in certain areas? This practice is not carried out in Australia where i live. All upper floor areas have floor to ceiling heights of around 3 to 4 metres. Is it something to do with your building codes over there? Greg.
I think it's to do with aesthetics and keeping the internal and external as original looking as possible to older building design.
I live in Melbourne now and so many of the mcmansions here probably have the head space you speak of but the designs are awful and age very badly.
Hi Greg, apologies for not answering your other question, I have lots of comments for whivh I am grateful but not so much time to answer!!, the simple answer is planning department restrictions that mean that you are unable to change an existing dwelling that drastically, it can depend on where the building is, how old the building is (maybe if it has listed status) and many other beurocratic rules!! We do add complete storeys to dwellings and a recent rule will allow this without planning permission using something called permitted development but the qualifying criteria is very narrow!!!
Hope that helps mate, thanks for watching bro!!
@@ukconstruction Thanks for getting back Robin. OK, that explains it well. Sad to see Governments and Councils with their crazy rules and regulations spoiling things for a lot of people. We get that kind of rubbish in Australia as well. Also, i do enjoy your shows. Always a pleasure to watch a quality professional man at work. Cheers, Greg.
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Good luck with the Alloway timber! been subbing for another builder who uses their timber and on the whole it's shocking, bows, cups and twists come as standard along with depth discrepancies of up to 10mm.
Mate, I have worked with Alloway timber for decades and they use the same importers and growers as most of the other merchants, its not just their timber that is subject to natural distortion but they will always change a product or let you select, tell the boss to go look first!!
shame you couldn't land all the wood up top :)
It looks so easy but ends up being ultra complicated
Maths 😭😭😭😭😭😭
🏴👍
Most merchants driver's would be sacked on the spot for lifting over a cable.
Really? seen it done hundreds of times, some of the roads in Greater London (loft conversion capital of the word) have masses of cables and masses of crane deliveries, in my experience most of the drivers are super skilled and in the case of our on this day, he was very calm and methodical, there are risks in every delivery by hand or by crane in my opinion?
@@ukconstruction totally agree Robin 99% of drivers are absolute pros and merchant drivers are some of the best out there. But I've worked for two of the big nationals and their H&S policies would have you down the road, whether you'd done any damage or not.
Loving the series btw 👍👍
Cheers Gareth
How much did you get paid for that !!
I have the luxury of working with innovative companies and brands to achieve my goals, and yes in some cases I get paid from brands, in this case this is just normal business for me no supplier had to pay me anything, I turn down loads of sponsorship opportunities purely because some viewers are very touchy about paid collaborations, my videos like other TH-camrs will always declare a paid sponsorship at the beginning in line with the rules of TH-cam etc where this happens
Your going to need to hurry up and put more floor in. You must be running out of drawing space.
Actually, just wait until someone asks to look at the preliminary design documents.
why draw on the floor, kneeling down, utter garbage.
Sorry mate look forward to see you do your video
I have to agree with Paul here it would have helped if you used a board and markers.
In all honesty, why calling a "specialist" to design a simple roof ?
Just need the correct paperwork for building control, as a carpenter I do not have the letters behind my name that a structural engineer has so I am not able to officially design this roof, even though I did!!
@@ukconstruction We all know you designed the roof and could make it in your sleep,
thanks for the video Boss
@@ukconstruction As usual, isn't. We are extremely lucky that we are able to sign off any structure and avoid going to deal with Structural "scientist" that know a page more than a book.
You don't have to be a chartered engineer, or engineer for that matter to submit structural calculations to building regs. Anyone can do it.
@@Aaron-gl8cm and checked by Building Control (in theory).