@@beastrulehe doesnt. he said that he doesnt want to squeeze out a character. ones a project is finished it‘s finished. this way you create a legendary character. and he is right
It's funny how many people can't tell the difference between inspiration and a ripoff. A ripoff is where you have little to zero innovation and copy something without ANY originality whatsoever. You certainly don't see Snake Plisken fighting giant robots, a Psycho Mantis, men on fire, a bisexual vampire, sneaking around smaller metal gears, him being a clone of a legendary soldier and having multiple "brothers", etc.
People like that haven't even played the games. They watched this video and all of a sudden they know everything in their eyes. Or they're just part of the La li lu le lo.
* I think if they ever decide to do a prequel trilogy that leads up to a remake of Escape from New York, I don't see the harm in saying that Snake Plissken quite literally "IS" Solid Snake from the Metal Gear games. It would certainly make Snake Plissken's world a whole lot bigger, and give him more of a backstory. However, the character should always look like Kurt Russell's Snake Plissken, so that there's no confusing that both characters are one and the same person. They could simply call the first prequel *ESCAPE.* Where they merge Snake Plissken and Solid Snake's background. Where he was originally named "David" by a woman who was one of the staff members working on project "Les Enfants Terribles". * However, for some reason he ended up in foster care(her doing perhaps?). He was adopted by a couple who formally named him "Bob" for whatever reason. For whatever reason, they could not care for him anymore, and he went back into foster care. Then, he would've been adopted by a man named "Plissken" and his wife. This man named "Plissken" would've been the leader of the Hells Angels motorcycle gang NYC chapter. He would not have wanted anyone to know that he couldn't have children of his own. So he and his wife would've put on some normal clothes and made themselves and their home look decent when they went in to sign the adoption forms. * They would do this so they could fool the adoption agency into thinking that they would make good parents. The name "Bob" would not sit right with this leader of a Hells Angels MC chapter. So he starts calling him "Snake", and they begin grooming him to become the leader of this Hells Angels chapter some day. Growing up in a motorcycle gang in the Bronx, NY(where they lived) "Bob"(Snake) becomes a huge fan of, and is obsessed with basketball(the New York Knicks), the Harlem Globetrotters, Evel Knievel, and surfing(in order to explain certain things in "Escape from L.A.). For recreation, if he wasn't playing basketball(prison rules) at one of the local courts, he was surfing at "Rockaway Beach"(92nd Street Beach). * When he was 17 he even won the "East Coast Surfing Championship". To make a long story short, "Snake" gets into a lot of trouble before the age of 18, and for whatever reason is court ordered to join the army. Perhaps to give him an opportunity to break away from crime. He does so well in the army, he is selected and transferred to Green Beret boot camp. He impressed his superiors so much, that he was selected and transferred to the high-tech "FOXHOUND Special Forces Group". He was placed in the "Black Light Unit"(also known as "Delta Unit") FOXHOUND's "Sneaking Unit Special Division". This is why he was called "SD" Plissken(or SD could stand for "Sneaking/Delta"). This could also be where FOXHOUND gives him the call sign "Solid Snake", or "Snake" for short. * Then, WWIII breaks out. This is where the 2nd prequel in the trilogy could take place. It could be called *Escape* *from* *Siberia,* where he is given his first purple heart for something he did, and is promoted to the rank of "Second Lieutenant". The 3rd film in the trilogy could be called *Escape* *from* *Russia,* and could be where he is decorated with his 2nd purple heart by the president himself, and is promoted to the rank of "First Lieutenant". He loses his left eye during this mission due to nerve gas. FOXHOUND surgically implants a bionic eye in place of his now useless eye. It is obvious to look at, that his new eye is bionic in nature. This replacement eye gives him normal vision(so as to not hamper his depth perception). * He was also given a special technological eyepatch to not only conceal the nature of his now robotic-looking left eye, but is also designed to be used in conjunction with his cybernetic eye. Utilizing nanotechnology, they provide him with special features such as: night vision, infrared vision, ultraviolet vision, telescopic vision, microscopic vision and x-ray vision. The last 3rd of the movie could be where he's on leave, and is convinced by FOXHOUND scientist "Dr. Harold Hellman" and fellow member of Black Light Unit "Fresno Bob" to rob the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, and the rest is history. * Then they can begin working on a remake of "Escape from New York", where they could say it's the year 2037(instead of 1997), or better yet, don't give a specific year. Just say "In the future..." or something like that. When WWIII began, the crisis gave the government the excuse they needed to declare martial law in the country, and it becomes a police state that is then reorganized into a new government that is renamed: "The New World Order"(N.W.O.). New York City is hit by a chemical or biological weapon. The city is quarantined until an immunizing agent can be developed. * A wall is built around Manhattan Island where any civilians infected with a contagious virus, where there is no current or not enough immunizing agents available, are sent. It is a slow process, but any civilians in Manhattan, or were sent to Manhattan Island and are still alive are eventually treated. They had a two-fold reason for building the walls. When the crisis was over, they were not going to tear the walls down. Instead, they were planning on using Manhattan Island as the one N.W.O. "Manhattan National Penitentiary". However, they would not shut off *ALL* of the electricity, and they would continue to provide plumbing, water and food(only what's necessary), but they would not perform maintenance on anything. * They would be on their own in that regard. So what do you think? Would those make some good Snake Plissken movies? Do you think they would do him justice? They would have to take great care when casting the role of Snake Plissken. Josh Brolin would've been perfect for the role when he was between the age of 31 and 39(between the years 1999 and 2007). Jason Momoa would've been perfect between the years 1999 and 2018, but he's 6'4". The character of Snake Plissken is 6' 1", but I guess we're only talking about the difference of 3 inches. They would not be able to afford to make a mistake like they made when casting Alden Ehrenreich as Han Solo in that movie called "Solo: A Star Wars Story. *Please* don't make a mistake like that.
I really love your attention to detail. As much as I prefer to keep Escape from New York/LA separate from Metal Gear, maybe I will make a "what if" video featuring your ideas. It would be fun to mess around with.
@@The_Phantom_Snake * Thank you. It could work. If they did it right. They might have to update, push forward, or be ambiguous about what year each game's story is supposed to be taking place in. The 2nd film in the remake trilogy could mention in passing how they've torn down the walls around Manhattan Island, and are rebuilding the borough of Manhattan, so that when we see it in "Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty" and "Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance", and are also the games in which we see Solid Snake Plissken in disguise as a navy SEAL Lieutenant named Iroquois Pliskin(spelled wrong deliberately). * The real reason why it's spelled wrong is the obvious reason. Because of copy wright protection laws. The in-game reason is because few people knew that Solid Snake's real name was "Bob Plissken", and even fewer people knew that Snake's real father(Ishmael "John" Saladin) was half Mohawk-Iroquois Native American, and was actually raised by that tribe. That gang called "The Red Skins" in Escape from New York, were most likely Mohawk Iroquois. * The reason why Snake gave the name "Pliskin" is because he wanted Raiden to know that it was him but changed the spelling just enough to avoid any legal entanglements just in case he, for some reason, didn't get a chance to delete his cover name from his file on the ship's computers. I know, it's kind of a corny excuse, but maybe the scriptwriters can come up with a better idea. However, Sons of Liberty could be taking place before the "Escape from Russia" prequel, because Snake's not wearing an eyepatch in Sons of Liberty, and he doesn't look like he's got a cybernetic left eye. He could be using a special contact lens that makes his eye look normal and blue, like his right eye. * This would also be their opportunity to say that Snake's rapid aging(due to being a clone) was a rumor spread by his enemies that turned out to be a total lie. That way, Snake will have a normal lifespan, and we get more movies. Then the 3rd film in the remake trilogy, could be a remake of "Escape from L.A.". It could be their chance to get it right this time, and not make it feel like you're watching a Saturday morning Power Ranger episode offshoot. No rubber-faced freaks this time. * No utterly unbelievable full-court shot when he's got the flu on top of it all. No giving him the flu at all to begin with in the first place, if you want him to even have a chance to succeed in the mission in that short amount of time. Who's dumb idea was that? Also, no surfing a tsunami in boots, jumping off the surfboard onto a moving car. Finally, in the first film in the sequel trilogy, we find out that everyone had underground back-up systems, so the E.M.P. attack on the world would be short lived. * Why? So that we can get more Snake Plissken movies, or would it be more interesting to have the sequel trilogy be about how the world got knocked back to the middle ages, and we get to see Snake Plissken surviving in a Mad Max kind of setting. Who knows, maybe Snake Plissken and Mad Max live in the same world. I don't know.
He did...it's called Metal Gear Solid...have you watched the movies and compared them with the games? They're nothing alike aside from a few references.
I wouldn't go that far. MGS references Escape from New York a few times and Solid Snake was definitely inspired by John Carpenter's character, but anyone who's played the games and watched the movies would know that they're two very different characters. Kojima also has Carpenter's "blessing" in a way, since Carpenter is actually a big fan of Metal Gear. (And is into video games in general to a surprising degree for someone his age.)
I don't see th similarities between Snake Pliskin and Solid Snake as "characters". Heck, Solid Snake never looked like Snake Pliskin for the first 3 games in the series...only Big Boss resembled him in MGS3 and after losing his eye. You guys really should learn what a "ripoff" is.
@@Miyakolover Miyakolover is right. Hideo Kojima didn't ripoff the films whatsoever. Kojima is a huge movie buff and used the characters he'd seen in movies and took inspiration from them and then translated that to his games. Other than the obvious references to Escape From New York, Metal Gear Solid is totally original and Kojima's brainchild. Just the concept of Metal Gear has nothing to do with the films.
Don’t forget that Kurt Russel was breathing and snake was breathing too
🤯
I think they both walked, too. (Idk please fact check me thank you)
I thought it was common knowledge lol even John Carpenter declined to sue for plagiarism because he enjoyed video games!
Sue for plagiarism tf
very true, but it was because he met and liked kojima personally
Don't forget they were both dudes disguised as other dudes acting like other dudes
I loved escape from la and kurt russell
this is alot more than i noticed
Nicely done.
I think you mean Metal Gear references in Escape From New York because, as we know, Hideo Kojima created the universe with his infinite brain power.
Jesus... Alot of people angry in the comment sections lol
Asmongold said metal gear solid was escape from new york lol. Hideo kojima saw escape from new york and turned it into a game lol.
That's true. Kojima was heavily inspired by escape from New York. He even wanted Kurt Russell to voice snake but he turned it down
@@The_Phantom_Snake does kurt russell regret that decision now?
@@beastrule I don't think he's ever made a public statement about it
@@The_Phantom_Snake i bet he regrets it :)
@@beastrulehe doesnt. he said that he doesnt want to squeeze out a character. ones a project is finished it‘s finished. this way you create a legendary character. and he is right
da boyyyyys
instead of kurt russel or kiefer sutherland... they plan oscar isaac as snake 🙃 holeewood..
Fortunately for us that’s probably never gonna happen.
well those guys are 73 and 57 respectively
It's funny how many people can't tell the difference between inspiration and a ripoff.
A ripoff is where you have little to zero innovation and copy something without ANY originality whatsoever.
You certainly don't see Snake Plisken fighting giant robots, a Psycho Mantis, men on fire, a bisexual vampire, sneaking around smaller metal gears, him being a clone of a legendary soldier and having multiple "brothers", etc.
People like that haven't even played the games. They watched this video and all of a sudden they know everything in their eyes. Or they're just part of the La li lu le lo.
the la li lu le lo?
@@darkarma9368 HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?! (MGS2 reference aside, If you play Metal Gear you will know what the la li lu le lo is)
me when im a patriot
* I think if they ever decide to do a prequel trilogy that leads up to a remake of Escape from New York, I don't see the harm in saying that Snake Plissken quite literally "IS" Solid Snake from the Metal Gear games. It would certainly make Snake Plissken's world a whole lot bigger, and give him more of a backstory. However, the character should always look like Kurt Russell's Snake Plissken, so that there's no confusing that both characters are one and the same person. They could simply call the first prequel *ESCAPE.* Where they merge Snake Plissken and Solid Snake's background. Where he was originally named "David" by a woman who was one of the staff members working on project "Les Enfants Terribles".
* However, for some reason he ended up in foster care(her doing perhaps?). He was adopted by a couple who formally named him "Bob" for whatever reason. For whatever reason, they could not care for him anymore, and he went back into foster care. Then, he would've been adopted by a man named "Plissken" and his wife. This man named "Plissken" would've been the leader of the Hells Angels motorcycle gang NYC chapter. He would not have wanted anyone to know that he couldn't have children of his own. So he and his wife would've put on some normal clothes and made themselves and their home look decent when they went in to sign the adoption forms.
* They would do this so they could fool the adoption agency into thinking that they would make good parents. The name "Bob" would not sit right with this leader of a Hells Angels MC chapter. So he starts calling him "Snake", and they begin grooming him to become the leader of this Hells Angels chapter some day. Growing up in a motorcycle gang in the Bronx, NY(where they lived) "Bob"(Snake) becomes a huge fan of, and is obsessed with basketball(the New York Knicks), the Harlem Globetrotters, Evel Knievel, and surfing(in order to explain certain things in "Escape from L.A.). For recreation, if he wasn't playing basketball(prison rules) at one of the local courts, he was surfing at "Rockaway Beach"(92nd Street Beach).
* When he was 17 he even won the "East Coast Surfing Championship". To make a long story short, "Snake" gets into a lot of trouble before the age of 18, and for whatever reason is court ordered to join the army. Perhaps to give him an opportunity to break away from crime. He does so well in the army, he is selected and transferred to Green Beret boot camp. He impressed his superiors so much, that he was selected and transferred to the high-tech "FOXHOUND Special Forces Group". He was placed in the "Black Light Unit"(also known as "Delta Unit") FOXHOUND's "Sneaking Unit Special Division". This is why he was called "SD" Plissken(or SD could stand for "Sneaking/Delta"). This could also be where FOXHOUND gives him the call sign "Solid Snake", or "Snake" for short.
* Then, WWIII breaks out. This is where the 2nd prequel in the trilogy could take place. It could be called *Escape* *from* *Siberia,* where he is given his first purple heart for something he did, and is promoted to the rank of "Second Lieutenant". The 3rd film in the trilogy could be called *Escape* *from* *Russia,* and could be where he is decorated with his 2nd purple heart by the president himself, and is promoted to the rank of "First Lieutenant". He loses his left eye during this mission due to nerve gas. FOXHOUND surgically implants a bionic eye in place of his now useless eye. It is obvious to look at, that his new eye is bionic in nature. This replacement eye gives him normal vision(so as to not hamper his depth perception).
* He was also given a special technological eyepatch to not only conceal the nature of his now robotic-looking left eye, but is also designed to be used in conjunction with his cybernetic eye. Utilizing nanotechnology, they provide him with special features such as: night vision, infrared vision, ultraviolet vision, telescopic vision, microscopic vision and x-ray vision. The last 3rd of the movie could be where he's on leave, and is convinced by FOXHOUND scientist "Dr. Harold Hellman" and fellow member of Black Light Unit "Fresno Bob" to rob the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, and the rest is history.
* Then they can begin working on a remake of "Escape from New York", where they could say it's the year 2037(instead of 1997), or better yet, don't give a specific year. Just say "In the future..." or something like that. When WWIII began, the crisis gave the government the excuse they needed to declare martial law in the country, and it becomes a police state that is then reorganized into a new government that is renamed: "The New World Order"(N.W.O.). New York City is hit by a chemical or biological weapon. The city is quarantined until an immunizing agent can be developed.
* A wall is built around Manhattan Island where any civilians infected with a contagious virus, where there is no current or not enough immunizing agents available, are sent. It is a slow process, but any civilians in Manhattan, or were sent to Manhattan Island and are still alive are eventually treated. They had a two-fold reason for building the walls. When the crisis was over, they were not going to tear the walls down. Instead, they were planning on using Manhattan Island as the one N.W.O. "Manhattan National Penitentiary". However, they would not shut off *ALL* of the electricity, and they would continue to provide plumbing, water and food(only what's necessary), but they would not perform maintenance on anything.
* They would be on their own in that regard. So what do you think? Would those make some good Snake Plissken movies? Do you think they would do him justice? They would have to take great care when casting the role of Snake Plissken. Josh Brolin would've been perfect for the role when he was between the age of 31 and 39(between the years 1999 and 2007). Jason Momoa would've been perfect between the years 1999 and 2018, but he's 6'4". The character of Snake Plissken is 6' 1", but I guess we're only talking about the difference of 3 inches. They would not be able to afford to make a mistake like they made when casting Alden Ehrenreich as Han Solo in that movie called "Solo: A Star Wars Story. *Please* don't make a mistake like that.
I really love your attention to detail. As much as I prefer to keep Escape from New York/LA separate from Metal Gear, maybe I will make a "what if" video featuring your ideas. It would be fun to mess around with.
@@The_Phantom_Snake * Thank you. It could work. If they did it right. They might have to update, push forward, or be ambiguous about what year each game's story is supposed to be taking place in. The 2nd film in the remake trilogy could mention in passing how they've torn down the walls around Manhattan Island, and are rebuilding the borough of Manhattan, so that when we see it in "Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty" and "Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance", and are also the games in which we see Solid Snake Plissken in disguise as a navy SEAL Lieutenant named Iroquois Pliskin(spelled wrong deliberately).
* The real reason why it's spelled wrong is the obvious reason. Because of copy wright protection laws. The in-game reason is because few people knew that Solid Snake's real name was "Bob Plissken", and even fewer people knew that Snake's real father(Ishmael "John" Saladin) was half Mohawk-Iroquois Native American, and was actually raised by that tribe. That gang called "The Red Skins" in Escape from New York, were most likely Mohawk Iroquois.
* The reason why Snake gave the name "Pliskin" is because he wanted Raiden to know that it was him but changed the spelling just enough to avoid any legal entanglements just in case he, for some reason, didn't get a chance to delete his cover name from his file on the ship's computers. I know, it's kind of a corny excuse, but maybe the scriptwriters can come up with a better idea. However, Sons of Liberty could be taking place before the "Escape from Russia" prequel, because Snake's not wearing an eyepatch in Sons of Liberty, and he doesn't look like he's got a cybernetic left eye. He could be using a special contact lens that makes his eye look normal and blue, like his right eye.
* This would also be their opportunity to say that Snake's rapid aging(due to being a clone) was a rumor spread by his enemies that turned out to be a total lie. That way, Snake will have a normal lifespan, and we get more movies. Then the 3rd film in the remake trilogy, could be a remake of "Escape from L.A.". It could be their chance to get it right this time, and not make it feel like you're watching a Saturday morning Power Ranger episode offshoot. No rubber-faced freaks this time.
* No utterly unbelievable full-court shot when he's got the flu on top of it all. No giving him the flu at all to begin with in the first place, if you want him to even have a chance to succeed in the mission in that short amount of time. Who's dumb idea was that? Also, no surfing a tsunami in boots, jumping off the surfboard onto a moving car. Finally, in the first film in the sequel trilogy, we find out that everyone had underground back-up systems, so the E.M.P. attack on the world would be short lived.
* Why? So that we can get more Snake Plissken movies, or would it be more interesting to have the sequel trilogy be about how the world got knocked back to the middle ages, and we get to see Snake Plissken surviving in a Mad Max kind of setting. Who knows, maybe Snake Plissken and Mad Max live in the same world. I don't know.
I might be the only one from my country who recognized the similarities upon seeing the movie; MGS isn't popular in India.
Good, don't let it be
@@user-ek2xg3ps5syou’ll live
@@user-ek2xg3ps5s yeah they'll ruin it
Always knew MGS was a ripoff, but not to THIS extent. Kojima is too funny.
It's not a ripoff tho 😂
@@TheLoneLander Please. If Kojima was an American he’d be sued into prison.
@@theDiReW0lf that's not how that works but aight
Inspiration ≠ ripoff
@@smokey12823heavy inspiration*
kojima apologists, unite!
We get it kojima, you like escape from New York. Now can you make something original???
He did...it's called Metal Gear Solid...have you watched the movies and compared them with the games? They're nothing alike aside from a few references.
Escape from new york was " pretty good" but escape from L.A was horrible, even still you can see allot Hideo drew from the movie
So Kojima stole the Snake character?...that's lovely. 😒
I wouldn't go that far. MGS references Escape from New York a few times and Solid Snake was definitely inspired by John Carpenter's character, but anyone who's played the games and watched the movies would know that they're two very different characters. Kojima also has Carpenter's "blessing" in a way, since Carpenter is actually a big fan of Metal Gear. (And is into video games in general to a surprising degree for someone his age.)
He’s from Japan, they copied everything after WW2 it’s what they do.
I don't see th similarities between Snake Pliskin and Solid Snake as "characters".
Heck, Solid Snake never looked like Snake Pliskin for the first 3 games in the series...only Big Boss resembled him in MGS3 and after losing his eye.
You guys really should learn what a "ripoff" is.
@@dazzaMusic Maybe you should search about all the American movies that ripped off Japanese movies and stories, it's not hard.
@@Miyakolover Miyakolover is right. Hideo Kojima didn't ripoff the films whatsoever. Kojima is a huge movie buff and used the characters he'd seen in movies and took inspiration from them and then translated that to his games. Other than the obvious references to Escape From New York, Metal Gear Solid is totally original and Kojima's brainchild. Just the concept of Metal Gear has nothing to do with the films.