Modern Vs Vintage Trains!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ค. 2024
- The great debate! Modern or Vintage? Which do you prefer?
This week we are running trains from both Modern and MPC (vintage) eras.
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I like both, but I lean a little more towards vintage. It's more budget-friendly, better for smaller layouts, and is more serviceable if anything goes wrong.
Agreed.
i have to lean towards modern. I understand, the vintage has so much character and better budget, but the modern is absolutely incredible and extremely detailed.
I like my vintage engines for one reason that I look for when buying a locomotive.. that is magna- traction. I have some pretty good grades and I love my magna-traction models. They've survived 70 years of abuse...(I keep the way I get them, they've earned their stripes). One of my best ones is a 2046 that I rescued from a antique store, busted, and missing many parts. After much tinkering, it's very dependable. I wonder how long today's modern electronics will last over time. That being said, I do have a MTH 611 myself, and am very proud of it. Both have their advantages, love them all, remembering that it all started in the mid 60s with a very cheap 027 set that I ran till it died years later. Still have some of those bits.
New, old, it doesn’t matter. Once you have decent scenery and the trains start running, it magically becomes real.
One of my favorite books is “The Runaway Train” where David sets up his 10th birthday present of a Lionel train set but when he starts following it around the house he finds a switch that runs it out on the back porch and then all through 1943 Auburn, AL. and back into the house with the hopper car full of candy dropped by a girl in a five and dime store.
And thanks for pronouncing Norfolk correctly.
Modern you get cause your just fascinated by all the bells and whistles but Vintage is a life time of memories
Hard to say, I kinda like the vintage stuff for how cute it sounds to me, yet the modern stuff I like because it sounds and looks so cool. I am at loss and can not say that one is better than the other.
I don’t have any, but for me, if I was spending all the time and money, I’d prefer modern with all those wonderful features and sounds. I’d love to be in a position where I can get bored of the modern and want a few older sets just for the heck of it.
Vintage or modern model trains are always cool. You got to love that MPC era simplicity and the totally prototypical sounds.
I’m a huge MPC fan. I’m currently putting together all the trains of The Famous American Railroad Series. On the hunt for the Blue Comet.
Like em both too. All beautiful! Really great layout! Nice and clean ! Looks great
Fun to see how model trains have developed over the past 40 years. 🚂👍👊
Hey Chris,
Saw you in York at the point you were giving away the Triplex. Didn't want to interrupt. The look on thier faces... Thanks for being a great ambassador for our hobby!!😊
Fantastic! That was my favorite part of York. We recorded the whole thing and I will post the video this week. A moment I will never forget :)
@@RBPTrains I personally like a mix of modern and vintage locomotives for a layout although my ideal layout would probably be primarily consisted of modern locomotives from the 90s to the present some pre-war sets and pre-war inspired sets along with modern remakes of them and at least a few postwar items. One or two MPC items would not be bad either. Overall, modern and prewar are probably my favorites.
RBT - Chris,
I learn from every video and from the comments from you fellas. I like the new track design also.
I've only got Lionel Postwar, and the sound of those things growling along never gets old. And of course, Magne-traction.
Mine are too.
@@sarahhearn-vonfoerster7401 Mine used to belong to my grandfathers, and they gave it all to me. How did you get yours?
@@sambrown6426 and have you ever seen Lionel prewar? Prewar in my opinion is interesting too and I would think that while the 1950s would be considered the golden age of Lionel I think an appropriate term for Lionel’s second best stage a silver age if you will would be the 1920s.
Very cool video. I am a vintage train guy. I have 1946 675 steam set, a 1948 726 passenger set, and a 1950 671 small freight set. Most of rolling stock is vintage with some PWC freight cars and operating car sets. Most of my operating accessory sets are vintage. Track is o-31 tubular track and modern o-22 switches. My layout is 4 by 8. No room for scale track and locomotives . The vision line is out of league and not with in my budget. Vintage and MPC are affordable and work on O-31 track.I really like your channel as you have a layout witch scale engines and rolling stock. I get to see these scale sets run. Thank you. The neat thing about O gauge is any person can get into the hobby.
Can never go wrong with the Blue Comet from any Era 😉 its always fascinating to see how far along technology has come when looking back at older models that were outstanding for there time and how they are today!
Nice video idea Chris, love it!
I spot a Gundam model - it's cool.
I only have 1 model (no layout though) & it's the HO scale 46200 - Princess Royal by Tri-ang (now Hornby) but sadly she's missing her front wheels & is also need of an overhaul, as she's also missing her left side rods too.
Even though I don't have a layout to use, I know of a place that has some of my fav. Australian trains (even though my fav. fav. train's the 4014 ~ Big Boy) that I might try to see if i can enter the contest with (if they'll left me take a video of them running).
Excellent video Chris, I like them both. My three kids had a youth pastor who not only looks identical to you but also speaks and entertains with the same passion! I don't think he plays with trains, though. 🤔 Thanks for sharing, Chris!
Hey Chris! Love the contrast between the good ol' days and the newer and more deluxe selection of today! Thanks for sharin'.
- Vic
An outstanding video and topic, Chris. Hands down, the whistles of the modern era locomotives are the most appealing, although I don't like the higher pitch of the three pitch whistle on the SP Daylight. The look of the vintage and modern of each are both super. Great to see on any layout at any time. It was a real adventure into the development of O gauge model trains over the years.
I agree. I love the way the modern whistles. Cory Mears
Definitely a bigger fan of modern. The vintage is cool, but the modern hits different.
I'm on "Team Modern" for this one. They look, sound and perform much more realistically compared to their vintage counterparts, which is what I like about model trains in general a vast majority of the time. Only the Norfolk & Western J Class looks like its real life counterpart for the vintage steamers shown here, and that's why it's my favorite vintage steamer shown in this video. The vintage Southern Pacific GS4 is just a Norfolk & Western J Class with an oil tender and a Mars light. The other two vintage steamers are depicted as Hudsons, when in the real world, they were Pacifics. Nice that you were able to acquire these four steam passenger trains and two versions (modern and vintage) of each; very colorful collection of iconic trains from across the nation.
Hi Chris, I think the modern ones are the best. Especially the streamlined steam locomotives. Cory
In my opinion,you are by far the most entertaining model railroad TH-camr I've seen. I greatly appreciate it,needed this vid today. I primarily collect Post war and Mpc,although I like the scale stuff. I just don't have space for the giant curves.
Agreed, RBP/Chris is a very entertaining fella.
Will there be "Academy" awards developed for U tooba? 🤔
Thank you for the kind words! This video/topic was a fun one to explore.
I collect Post War and MPC. Like you, I run the Blue Comet and Crescent with multiples of cars in both, but add the Rail King Crescent cars only with a custom Lionel Southern-MTH F3 Diesel as the Loco. Quite a twister. I am really enjoying your channel. Keep up the good work!
I like modern, but do have some vintage. I do run vintage every now and then. You provide a good comparison of current and past trains. Keep up the good work!
A friend of mine is a big fan of post war trains 😊
Awesome video the daylight changed a lot over the years from the traditional conventional control model to the top of the line visionline locomotive 🚂
I had a large collection of MPC back in the 70's and 80's and I really enjoyed them back then. My complaint was you could buy the engine but it only came in one road name for the engines released each year (I hated that). I later sold all my trains as a complete collection with little regret. Now I have a large collection of MTH and Lionel trains and I love them because I could buy road name specific models with awesome detail and sounds.
That was an interesting comparison and your ever growing collection is impressive. You are correct in that you can't compare the electronic sound effects from back then to the present day digital offerings. But, for their time, they were a welcome addition. It has been said that those postwar Lionel diesel horns that used the D cell battery were actually door bell buzzers. Every Monday I watch the show I Love Toy Trains. Trainz is one of their sponsors and you did a good job with their ad. Keep up the good work and I look forward to your next video.
While they were probably door buzzers, early postwar diesel horns were stamped 'Delta Electronic Marion, Indiana' on the tops, and Delta used those same buzzers for bicycle horns, and later stall warning buzzers in some aircraft. So yeah, with some adjustment to pitch, those buzzers probably saw other uses as well.
I had the pleasure of getting a cab ride on 611 while she was in Strasburg for my Birthday last year. It was fabulous.
I am a HO/N/On30 collector.
I remember seeing a blue comet on I love toy trains that look like vintage but it was more well done. As for the others I never even knew they had models like this in vintage design
I love both vintage and modern era of Lionel trains
We love them all brotherman, really nice colection. These engines take us back to being a kid again Bro, LOVE THIS VIDEO!!!! COOL MAN COOL!!! 😃😆😁😆💓💞💕👏👏👍👍👍👍
I really enjoy your video's, one suggestion is to list the model number of the trains you run. I like a couple of your train and tried to search for them. Keep the the good work.
Great suggestion! I will update the description.
I appreciate the new offerings as they are by far more detailed than anything offered before. I collect everything from prewar to LTI, although most of my collection is postwar. Even though I was born in 1982, I gravitate to the older stuff.
All of those are great!...the smoke on the Daylights is awesome!
Hi RBP, I just wanted to say I'm a huge fan. I love both eras because of the color schemes. It's nice to see someone bridging that gap between them and thoroughly enjoying both. I'm more of a modern guy myself, but I have great respect for those who still run vintage. I'm a bit young (literally and figuratively) to the hobby, but my collection consists of a TMCC GS-2, TMCC AC-9, Legacy Golden State E7s, and a TMCC Cab Forward which I'm selling to upgrade to a Legacy Cab Forward.
You have some nice trains in your collection! That cab forward is gonna be epic. I don't have one of those! Thanks for watching Nicolas!
Thanks for this video, Chris. It's excellent as are all your videos. BTW, you have gotten me hooked on the MPC Era. You are right- without the MPC Era, we may not have the Lionel we all know and love today and the resulting products. MPC did provide the link to the modern day.
Another great show Chris! There's not much I can add except you're so right, people wanting to get into the hobby but not wanting to take out a second mortgage on the house should take a good look at the MPC Era trains and not just those. Look at what I call the Kughn Era Lionels made from 1985 to 1996, many of those are coming up o the second-hand market and be had for very reasonable prices. And there's also the Post-War Era trains, many of which are so common it's no sin if you want to take one in no-so-good external condition and give it a custom paint job of your own. And if one doesn't like the older sound systems they're easily upgraded with sound kits available from different outfits.
Oh, and it's no suprise the Blue Comet sets tend to be more expensive, Blue Comets of any era and make are always hot items.
I’ve been on a Postwar Lionel kick lately, between 1946 and around 1957, when Lionel focused on military trains. It has a nice balance of keeping Lionel’s toylike charm while still having a few modern features like smoke
Great video Chris.
Excellent selection of sets to compare!
Me, I like all of the trains you ran. Keep having fun and enjoy them.
Great video Chris, really enjoyed it
I really enjoyed this video Chris. Very cool being able to have both types of these sets. Thanks for taking the time to make and share this video!
Thank you! This is a video I have been wanting to make for a while. It was a lot of fun to record the trains side by side.
I would love to see another video with the Yellowstone
Also the Yellowstone will be the start to my collection of O Scale trains
Hi Chris,
Great video! 👍 I like the older one trains but I love and collect the modern trains. If I could, I would buy all of them, but they’re hard to find in Europe.
Very cool Chris!! One thing I notice as a non O scale guy (Im HO), it seems the new stuff is much quieter then the vintage. I think thats true across the board, but very noticeable here.
The newer trains are much quieter with their flywheel motors and such. In O Gauge, we often refer to the vintage trains as growlers, especially the Post War F3s. Thanks for watching!
Great content and great trains. Another "top shelf" video and I thank you !
Thanks James!
I love the vintage trains from the MPC era. Especially, the Norfolk & Western 611 and Blue Comet trains.
Also, I’m going to see it at Strasburg on Memorial Day Weekend for the In-Cab Experience on May 26th and ride the train on May 27th. 😬 Can you feel the excitement? lol
Great video Chris. I think both modern and vintage are great. As I grow my collection, I’ll continue to get both b
The last shot with the Daylight’s made me think:
GS Series Daylight: Hurry up lil bro!
MPC Daylight: WAIT FOR ME!!!
I always get excited to see a new video of yours and was super excited to see the daylight along with all the others here. I still have not gone down to my local train museum, but up here in Portland we have the last surviving daylight which I think is pretty cool! Also love to see the Astray Red Frame in your new videos. Looks to be a PG which was my first PG Gundam to build :) Do you have any other Gundam's in your collection?
Thanks Nigel and that is cool that you live so close to the Daylight. Would be great to see that one in person one day. As for the Gundam, I only have this one and a MG Wing. Looking to build a few more but that is becoming a slippery slope, haha!
@@RBPTrains I totally get where you are coming from for the slippery slope haha! My Gundam collection is far larger then my train, of which I just started collecting. I believe I have more un-built then I do built now😝
I like the sound and the look of the modern version . The "hoot" of the 611 is very close . I also like the non brilliant varnish of the modern scale size model . Only thing I don't like is the prices of them !!!!
The whistle is pretty cool on that one! Thanks for watching Louis.
Been a vintage fan my whole life.
Got myself a 736 and 746, love 'em both. I've had some modern stuff, but it just doesn't have the same charm as the vintage stuff. Gonna be picking up a 700E real soon, the true icon of Lionel in my books.
I love modern trains for the realism and features, but I also love the vintage stuff for the history and collectibility
Another awesome video Chris. I have the MTH Premier BLUE COMET and 5 car set, the engine is in PS only.
dude the mini you by the tracks is awesome
In my opinion every era of model railroading is fantastic
I like both but because of my budget and lack of room for a large layout, I tend to collect more of the vintage trains. One good thing is that Lion Chief Plus is now giving people with smaller layouts a chance to have engines with improved features, especially the sound and Bluetooth control.
Both versions are cool, and I would take either one. I have a preference for the MPC version. I used to work in the railroad exhibit at Carnegie Science Center in Pittsburgh, and we had the MPC Blue Comet and Crescent, 3 of each. I took those apart and repaired them countless times. repairing the modern version would be much more difficult. I don't have any of them at home.
While watching the video, the image of a miniature O. Winston Link with his camera set up track side popped into my head. Something to remember when my family and I get to build our own layout.
We've colected modern Brotherman!!! H.&J. M 👍👍😀😃😁💟💕❤
Mpc stands for model products corporation. It was an era where Lionel started to make much more than just trains, but also functioning buildings, cars, and more. Also, they made functioning train cars like the helicopter flatcar
i love how in the background of your videos randomly there is a pg gundam astray lol
I like the vintage, But Man The Nostalgia🫠😃😄😁👍🇺🇲😀😆😉🙃🙂🤔😙
That’s one safe railway with the gundam guarding it
Great video! Keep up the good work
Great vidio,, the Yard layout stared with lionchief sets then a 681 set from the 50s. Running outside with postwar engines is the best, bt speakers ad a modern sound to it from the tender and the pulling power from the magna traction is great...Thanks for the morning coffee
I loved this video RBP. Great work keep doing what you do.
The modern has them by looks but the vintage have that good old spirit of original Lionel trains that’s why I choose vintage and I have a steamer that is either 63 or 64 years old. Anyway nice video RBP thanks for giving us something good to watch.
I just brought the MPC Southern Crescent locomotive. And had no idea it is that old, lol.
Chris, One thing you could've added to make a better comparison is their RRP as appropriate. It may help to put them into perspective. Vision line et al could be considered frightfully expensive today, was the MPC blue comet the same frightfully expensive price in its day? I have some standard and wide gauge and as I'm sure you're aware the 381 3 car intercontinental ("state") set was extremely expensive in its day, although marketed for a different demographic, one that doesn't necessarily exist today.
Great video, very enjoyable. I like both, were a probable lean towards modern, just due to their sheer impressiveness as a model. although as I'm wide/standard gauge my thoughts don't really count ;)
Great idea! I am wondering what the original Retail Price was for these sets in the 70s. Need to find out that info so I can run the good old calculator to see what the cost would be today. I like the standard gauge stuff! The history around it fascinates me. Thanks for watching!
Prefer vintage engines ,easy to repair and cost effective,better made in usa.
I find it funny that right now you are doing a comparison of old and new just after I had to make a decision. My father bought a G gauge loco, the LGB BR99 6001, when I was a kid. Unfortunately, he sold it and now that I can finally start building a small garden railroad myself, I wanted to have one. The version with sound, the 2080S, came onto the market in 1974 and at the time cost almost 3 times as much as the version without sound. It was revolutionary as it already had a bell, initially mechanical, whistle and synchronized cylinder sound in 1974! It was produced until 1993 with small changes, e.g. the sound of the bell was later also generated electronically, and the sound was only fundamentally revised with the 1994 model. I deliberately chose an old, analogue version. It's amazing what's possible these days, but the challenge is just getting the microcontroller right, which is what engineers had to do back then to teach a bunch of analog parts to sound like a steam engine, and at the right beat, too. that is worth preserving!
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I personally find beauty in both vintage and modern model trains
My son wanted me to tell you he loves your train layout videos.
Awesome! Tell him Thank You from me :)
I like the gundam on the layout. I have a custom painted one inside my railroad shop building on my layout.
Chris, I collect vintage & repo Tinplate as well as modern TMCC & PS2/3 MTH. Thanks.
Chris thanks for running your Southern Crescents
Awesome video, Chris
I can’t wait for the rbp trains with friends video!!! I already sent in my video lol
Awesome, I will be going through all of the submissions in the coming weeks so thank you for sending!
Awesome video! I also like that Gundam Astray even though I don't care for Seed anymore and I'm more of a old school UC fan.
I'm a vintage Marx and Lionel fan myself. The locos and rolling stock are much more budget friendly. Someone may have already commented on this, but here's a fun fact: Marx came out with a side smoker for the 666 and 1666 in the 1950s no other manufacturer of o gauge trains would have this feature until Lionel did it in the 1980s.
Extraordinary video Extraordinary collection impressive layout and the bridge I like modern lionel locomotives they are very realistic looking and sounds very much realistic like you stated the MP Era got it all started
I have to say, modern and vintage both have their own charm. I’d say I can’t like one more than the other.
That red frame tho 👌
i started out with o gauge 60 years ago and still love it. i like modern but i think im partial to vintage.
Thank you Chris 👍👍
I like 'em all Chris and run anything my layout will accommodate from American Flyer O-gauge, Hafner, Marx, Lionel, MTH, K-Line, etc., whatever I like.
Whoa. 1985. Good year bro
Great video 👍. 📹 👏👏👏.
Thanks a lot! Always enjoying seeing those super cool trains👍👍👍
It would also be great if you could do a video about the different product lines of different brands. For example I saw an MTH amtrak set and I was like this is great 👍. But then I saw that it was just a starter set and maybe didn't have all the features of a premium level set. Is Rail king the premium line?
Is Lionel legacy the premium line? Is the Vision line the premium line?
It's confusing if you're just starting in the hobby. Thanks!
All the best and looking forward to your next videos 📹
I'm honestly quite torn between Modern and Vintage eras for trains. Vintage trains have that charming "semi-scale" look to it that can catch both young and old hobbyists eyes alike. Modern trains are impressive with how much detail and electronic wizardry they can pack into them.
RBP. I love ALL the eras except the general mills era of Lionel. My favorite set is my 1988 hiawatha reproduction.
Old and New Chris! Did you know that Mr. Lionel was actually the nickname of long time Lionel consultant Lenny Dean? (1926-2007)
yeeesss you did it.I like modern for there power and vintage because it dosent cost to much
Wo im ready for the comp
Yes, so cool. I like the way you present the trains. I wonder if you could do a show about the scale size's? I would like to know more about they meaning of scale, and when they made them. Thanks.
Great suggestion! I did a video on Semi Scale trains a while back but have not really done a video highlighting the various sizes in O Gauge. I will see if I can pull something together on that topic.
I love trains from all eras but my favorite is the post war trains.
CONGRATULATIONS!! IT'S GREAT!!!
Born in 1970, so I’m MPC era too.
In my N gauge collection are both modern and vintage trains. In a lot of cases i prefer the vintage ones. They are more durable and less troublesome. In some ocassions i bought both the modern and vintage version and the never ones are less noisy and have nicer driving gears but the overal quality is not always better