In some senses. I use Vital and Surge together. Surge's wavetable oscillator sounds better IMO, it has more filters, and they are about to add 4 new oscillator types. If you want you can mix and resample wavetables in the free Vital with any of it's parameters then export them as .wav files and use them in Surge immediately.
Having so much control over wave structure is what makes Vital so attractive. But now that I have it, I don't know what to do with it; almost. Discovery is a fun part of the process. Still, a manual would be most helpful. At least we have people like you that are willing to explain things better. Thanks.
having patched synths since mid-ninties, i can say ...yes i ALSO see the Value of hearing about the synth from the dev/engineer in the form of a manual. Anyone who has ever read the classic hw manuals or fantastic user guides from U-he, fully understands why this is always a goldmine.
It's cool that Vital lets you control the wavetable with so much detail, but everyone I've seen on TH-cam that actually uses this feature just basically makes random shapes to see what happens. This is the first video I've found that actually explains the logic behind the adjustments he's making.
I appreciate this walk-through. I only have the U-he wt's and some hardware Waldorfs so this in-depth 'editing' is a new thing...wild wild...almost too wild...like a rabbit hole ;)
thanks for the in-depth swimming lesson. off topic, but relevant: the gate on the voiceover mic would benefit from a more gradual release time, a higher noise floor, or some combination of both. The way it keeps dropping completely out is quite hard on the ears, and actually highlights the mic noise more that masking it. If it helps, that mic pre could come down a few dBs and still be plenty loud, though I'm not sure if this would miss this preamps particular sweet spot. again, thank you for this. I'm noticing with many sounds so far that quite a lot of magic can happen about 5-10 steps in any direction from the init patch. This means some patience for the pleasure, but not nearly as much and so much more (respectively) than some other highly flexible synths and processes.
I just started laughing multiple times while watching this video. You're getting a lot of crazy sounds and showing cool functionality a blink of an eye away that had me going "wait, what was that again". Great video!
Hi, if you removed yourself from the screen (we can still hear you), we could see Vital (resized) and what you're doing with it better and, to boot, be less distracted. Thanks for the tutorial.
@@dreamaera Whenever you load a sample in the wavetable editor, there is an option "Window Size". If you know the exact tone or key of the sample you are loading, you can enter it and it will translate it to the right window size. If you have a vocal sample that is on C3 for example, you can type "C3" and press Enter.
Thank you! But I must say that this "tutorial" is only for very experienced (expert ones) , not for newbied like me. Tons of mouse moves and clicks witho no explanation about it... But I can see tha uou're good on sound design... Thanx a lot!!!
quick question if i want to do the "double audio file" setup you just did in the "fades" 12:00 section of your video, what can i do instead of drag and dropping my samples ? when i try to import the second one, whichever previous audio source i had open gets deleted when the next one gets imported. this doesnt happen with drag and dropping it though... so what gives ? am i not doing it correctly ? thanx in advance
How do you turn on the harmonics when they're gray? Only a few wavetables like the init and basic shapes already have them purple ready to edit harmonics, most are gray and you can't edit them.
Endless possibilities but extremely hard to make musical sounds (for me at least). Thanks for making this video, maybe try to decrease the boom on your vocals next time?
what is Vital PC specifs ? PC intel i7 , 8 Mo RAM, NVDIA GT 440 + ASIO Hamerfall ADAT PCI-E, + CUBASE, even after installing C++ 2015-2020, tryed on windows 7, tryed on Windows 10 , Windows 11 : VITAL never launched, always crashes. The ONLY VST plugin to never launch. What must i do to make it work as seen in your videos ?
I had trouble to load single cycle. Not sure why. But only when I set the blend to none, then it loaded it correct shape. The number of samples was 2048 and it loaded it incorrect shape.
Yeah its in the works... two banks actually. One with a bunch of psytrance presets I've been working on and then another project. Picked up a JP8000 so in the process of sampling all the waveforms and creating custom tables and using those to do a JP inspired bank too.
You can modulate pretty much everything, wavetable of course too although not the selection. You could easily create a fade between two wavetables though and resample it to a new one... not sure about preset selection although I don't see the point of that. Effects you could just turn them all on and modulate the dry/wet parameters.
I don't think so, haven't been using vital much lately. Not sure why you would want to repeat keyrames in a table though... I may be wrong but can't think of a use that I would want this features for.
vital is the best free synth in existence
Can't beat it, best in it's class
In some senses. I use Vital and Surge together. Surge's wavetable oscillator sounds better IMO, it has more filters, and they are about to add 4 new oscillator types. If you want you can mix and resample wavetables in the free Vital with any of it's parameters then export them as .wav files and use them in Surge immediately.
If I hadn't bought it already, I would get it right now after watching your video. This thing is amazing!
Having so much control over wave structure is what makes Vital so attractive. But now that I have it, I don't know what to do with it; almost. Discovery is a fun part of the process. Still, a manual would be most helpful. At least we have people like you that are willing to explain things better. Thanks.
Your opening sentence makes it seem like you’d know how a synth works.
having patched synths since mid-ninties, i can say ...yes i ALSO see the Value of hearing about the synth from the dev/engineer in the form of a manual. Anyone who has ever read the classic hw manuals or fantastic user guides from U-he, fully understands why this is always a goldmine.
@@nsjx Yeah i keep the reason manual handy and it's so helpful
learning keyboard shortcuts as well can never hurt
It's cool that Vital lets you control the wavetable with so much detail, but everyone I've seen on TH-cam that actually uses this feature just basically makes random shapes to see what happens. This is the first video I've found that actually explains the logic behind the adjustments he's making.
Thanks Nate. It's nice to see the endless possibilities with this plugin.
19:45 Perfect track opener sound. Wow, this synth impresses me more and more every time I look deeper into it.
I appreciate this walk-through. I only have the U-he wt's and some hardware Waldorfs so this in-depth 'editing' is a new thing...wild wild...almost too wild...like a rabbit hole ;)
Very thorough and clear demonstration overall, thanks! Amazing sounds.
thanks for the in-depth swimming lesson.
off topic, but relevant: the gate on the voiceover mic would benefit from a more gradual release time, a higher noise floor, or some combination of both. The way it keeps dropping completely out is quite hard on the ears, and actually highlights the mic noise more that masking it. If it helps, that mic pre could come down a few dBs and still be plenty loud, though I'm not sure if this would miss this preamps particular sweet spot.
again, thank you for this. I'm noticing with many sounds so far that quite a lot of magic can happen about 5-10 steps in any direction from the init patch. This means some patience for the pleasure, but not nearly as much and so much more (respectively) than some other highly flexible synths and processes.
Superb content and delivery. Thank you very much ! Vital makes my Hydrasynth look like a Victorian steam engine....
My pleasure, and thank you.
😂😂😂
OMG finally someone explaining advanced tab in detail! Thank you!
I lobed it when you modulated the delay time to exploit the pitch change! Super cool
Thanks Nate - very interesting Synth
I just started laughing multiple times while watching this video. You're getting a lot of crazy sounds and showing cool functionality a blink of an eye away that had me going "wait, what was that again". Great video!
I can't wait to get Vital! Thanks for making the waiting a little easier ;-)
Hi, if you removed yourself from the screen (we can still hear you), we could see Vital (resized) and what you're doing with it better and, to boot, be less distracted. Thanks for the tutorial.
Did you know you could just enter "C0" in the window size? It'll automatically adjust it to the correct amount of samples.
Could you elaborate?
@@dreamaera Whenever you load a sample in the wavetable editor, there is an option "Window Size". If you know the exact tone or key of the sample you are loading, you can enter it and it will translate it to the right window size. If you have a vocal sample that is on C3 for example, you can type "C3" and press Enter.
Great video! Thank you!
Thank you!
But I must say that this "tutorial" is only for very experienced (expert ones) , not for newbied like me.
Tons of mouse moves and clicks witho no explanation about it...
But I can see tha uou're good on sound design...
Thanx a lot!!!
I can hear the people who just bought Serum screaming from here
I bought it months ago. I'm still screaming
Same. I do prefer Serum for making Brutal Bass sounds whilst Vital is more experimental and weirder sounding. They both work well together.
Serum >>>>
Serum has better flanger and phaser filters, and a better compressor.
Use the Wavetable Editor in that amazing tool called UVI Falcon...I know it's your favorite and mine too! ;)
quick question if i want to do the "double audio file" setup you just did in the "fades" 12:00 section of your video, what can i do instead of drag and dropping my samples ? when i try to import the second one, whichever previous audio source i had open gets deleted when the next one gets imported. this doesnt happen with drag and dropping it though... so what gives ? am i not doing it correctly ? thanx in advance
Great in-depth table-waving (Italian accent) ...
How do you turn on the harmonics when they're gray? Only a few wavetables like the init and basic shapes already have them purple ready to edit harmonics, most are gray and you can't edit them.
Thx Nate! Matt should hire you to write a user manual. ;-)
Endless possibilities but extremely hard to make musical sounds (for me at least).
Thanks for making this video, maybe try to decrease the boom on your vocals next time?
what is Vital PC specifs ?
PC intel i7 , 8 Mo RAM, NVDIA GT 440 + ASIO Hamerfall ADAT PCI-E, + CUBASE,
even after installing C++ 2015-2020, tryed on windows 7, tryed on Windows 10 , Windows 11 :
VITAL never launched, always crashes. The ONLY VST plugin to never launch.
What must i do to make it work as seen in your videos ?
By 'sample-playback-esque' , did you mean Mellotron-like, because that would be way cool! 😉 18:18
I had trouble to load single cycle. Not sure why. But only when I set the blend to none, then it loaded it correct shape. The number of samples was 2048 and it loaded it incorrect shape.
Cheers, useful tips!
thanks a lot
Are you planning to release a Vital presets? I would support
Yeah its in the works... two banks actually. One with a bunch of psytrance presets I've been working on and then another project. Picked up a JP8000 so in the process of sampling all the waveforms and creating custom tables and using those to do a JP inspired bank too.
The thing is, if you dont create your own wavetables, you can't really say it's your own sound, unless you just work with the basic shapes
Can you make a video on new free wavetable synthesizer "graphite vst" availabe on bedroom producers blog.
Always overlooked. But pretty solid as well
Hey there nice video! is it possible to modulate the Wavetable- and/or preset selection? or maybe the effect selection?
You can modulate pretty much everything, wavetable of course too although not the selection. You could easily create a fade between two wavetables though and resample it to a new one... not sure about preset selection although I don't see the point of that. Effects you could just turn them all on and modulate the dry/wet parameters.
Awesome
is it possible to copy&paste keyframes?
I don't think so, haven't been using vital much lately. Not sure why you would want to repeat keyrames in a table though... I may be wrong but can't think of a use that I would want this features for.
Uh… anyone know how to fix missing wevetables? Downloaded it and all the free nasty wave tables are gone
helpful
you sound like me :P thanks for the tips!
how can i get it?
:O
Why is everyone so overboosting frequencies around 200 Hz in voice recordings? This continuous boo-boo-boo just blows your head.