I read too much comments that said Andrew cheated. 1. The video was uploaded live at Twitch. 2. Andrew played on NES, not on emulator. 3. He happened to write some questions about the run in the description and answer them. 4. People that cry haven't played this game yet and they have no idea.
@@3SZ He was the first person to beat Super Mario Bros. Germaphobic Speedrunner's Edition without savestates, which increases the credibility of this run.
If someone ever gets a 4:57, I will be EXTREMELY impressed. 4:57 should be a perfect console time. It requires “hitting the lottery”. 7 years later and we have a 4:55
For all of you ignorant casual scumbags out there who cant do these things: - Do some research before making dumb accusations - Read description - Actually listen to Tompa A Here's some info about this: First off, the timing starts when the runner starts the game and 1-1 screen pops up, and ends at 8-4 when Mario touches the axe that drops Bowser into lava. Then the run itself. Original SMB didn't have too good hitboxes so you can jump over the Piranha Plants while running without getting killed, since Mario's hitbox doesn't hit Piranha Plant's hitbox. Also, SMB couldn't handle many hitboxes at one screen, so all of the hammers didn't actually have hitbox. There's couple of other things that are done in this run, but I'm too lazy to mention them, if you still wonder if this is cheated, go ahead and ask Tompa A himself about it, he can enlighten you. Anyways, I'm pretty sure that Andrew (the runner) himself can't really do anything else but laugh at these comments, but would you please actually have some respect for his skills? Like also would you do some research before making incredibly stupid accusations? That's all I have to say .__.
Andrewg Hey I’m just commenting on your most popular video because I don’t have a twitter. Please just know. You Are NOT forgettable, you are NOT done, washed up, or anything. No one got record during the livestream for chase the record you’ll be fine. You’re having technical difficulties so it’s not your fault. If you aren’t as good at new strata as other people maybe you are just getting older. You have been speedrunning consistently for 10 years now and I think you are STILL a wonderful twitch personality and just as entertaining as darbian. The fact that you have been playing and entertaining for 10 Years is amazing!! Be proud of yourself. And you have an amazing warpless time!!! Anyway, I can’t say If you’ll ever get the Mario record back, but it doesn’t matter. You’ve left a legacy for all the future runners and inspired all of the current runners. Heck you are darbian’s main influence he completely idolizes you. Everyone has a rough night once in a while. I’ve noticed your mood swings on twitter and I get worried. I have anxiety too sometimes and I get overwhelmed and have a lot of mood swings. I can understand that you are busy and I am NOT angry if you don’t keep a consistent schedule (heck I’m in high school and waaaaaaaaaaaay to busy to watch regularly anyway). I think speedrunning is awesome and it’s my favorite thing to watch online. I want to have a twitch when I get out of college. I like running sm64 but I think the smb community is much friendlier and I may need to try rubbing it someday. Anyway, that’s all I have to say. Don’t worry about others judging you. You’ve already proved yourself to the world. You don’t need to prove your worth. You are beautiful with or without the record. Just hold your head high and be YOU. Play whatever you want. You will always be entertaining even if you speedrun E. T. (: (crappy game lol) I mean darb was entertaining even with dragster). Don’t let life get to you. Also don’t be afraid to take a break from streaming if things get too tough. I hope this helped, I know I’m just one young girl commenting on a TH-cam video but I just hope that you will be encouraged!
i love ur speach and it help as well only for andrew. but just be thankfull for other people as well andrew was my first run player i watch and i injoyed his videos
Clearly he understands the game mechanics but why is it that i remember dying at every fricken smallest touch of everything, and he just walks right through them -__-
jodnecroman Not frame perfect... pixel perfect(but not even). The hitboxes of the enemies aren't exactly taking the space of the entire enemy, so you can just jump right through them as if they are nothing.
I agree. Like at 1:23-1:26 people say "Wah, you can't jump over those plants you cheated Wah boo hoo!". It IS actually possible to legitimately jump over those Piranha Plants.
I plan to start doing attempts again in the next few days, and continue until I regain the record. I'm at Twitch.tv/andrewg1990 if you care to watch some live attempts!
It's really interesting to see how, despite knowing about the extra framerule in 8-1 that you save by hitting the starblock, you still didn't go for the pipe jump and instead went for the one frame goomba jump
andrewg1990 Thanks for the tip, but I still can't do it. I'm doing a speed run video, too. I'd like it if you please help me get past that part. Here is the Dropbox link. www.dropbox.com/s/mslnsolaipidwgz/Super%20Mario%20Bros.%20%28Japan%2C%20USA%29.fm3?dl=0
What I want to know is how are you jumping through the piranha plants.... like you literally fly through them when in mario that would count as you dying.
Not in this game it wouldn't, no. The reason is because of the bad hitbox detection in the game. Also please read the movie's description that already explains things like this.
Yeah I read after I made the comment haha. But I noticed he could've knocked about 0.005 of second off his time if he'd of jumped higher near the end where he gets caught on the platform, still impressed though.
There are several videos where he is playing live in front of an audience, Shigeru Miyamoto included. And his latest WR was even streamed live on Twitch with commentary. This guy is the real deal.
anyone else notice THAT THIS GUY CLEARLY HACKED THE GAME TO PASS THROUGH ENEMYS i tried the whole hitbox error thing AND I DIED plus even if it is an actual glitch shouldnt a speedrun u know be a LEGITAMENT PLAYTHROUGH not to mention 5:05 once again TRYED IT AND I DIED
Speedrunning is completing a non-modified game in a short amount of time. Speedrunning uses *any techniques that is available in the game only* to complete the game. And that is the definition of speedrun.
datrandomyoutubecommenter No speedrunners would like to do that. Not even ordinary players. Because doing that stuff (in other games. Super Mario Bros is kinda easy) is too easy and does not need to remember which part to do this and that. (Like Half Life for example)
Top of plant's can't kill you. You can see the hitboxes of enemies here, go to 1:25 for the flowers: watch?v=hoUmUs9PeI0. At 4:06 he survive because as long as you are falling, you'll stomp on enemies no matter where you hit them. May sound weird, but that's how it is. The hammers in the end are a special case. Because too many spawn at ones, they game can't handle them. So some hammers may not have a hitbox. imgur. com/lUAIOEY.png Though after awhile, they all will: imgur. com/T4mKIAF.png
Using features of the game is literally as far from cheating as you can possibly get. You sound like the kid no one wanted to play any games with because he'd make up whatever arbitrary rules were needed to make it impossible for him to lose.
People like you annoy me. If it's in the game it's not cheating. And using glitches that were never fixed and are part of the game isn't cheating either. If he hacked or changed ANYTHING in the game to make it run faster than it's considered cheating. But as we can see this dude speed-running this game didn't do any of that. Only skill and memory were used in this run. Fuck off Steve and have yourself a nice day.
I still find this cheating. Using warp zones is extremely cheap and they gaming society these days are so fucking crap they allow this crisp to count. I know it was put into the game but it shouldn't be counted.
The problem is that when you create restrictions, everyone disagrees on what is allowed or isn't. Allowing everything solves this problem at a competitive level. Many games could be maxed out for time if glitches or tricks weren't allowed. Also, there are always various categories. This is with warps, but I have runs without wars as well
Miyamoto himself said that warp zones were made for people who were good at a game to reach harder areas quicker. Warp zones are CLEARLY meant to be used, otherwise why would they put them in the game?
the people above me have been too polite here. warp zones are put into the game with the intent to be used. glitches are things in the game that are not intended to be used. so even if you're a stupid "glitches are cheating" shit-for-brains, you'd still allow warp zones, because they aren't glitches. but no, it seems to me that you're worse than those people. until you can tie the world record you have no right to talk shit andrew's run.
I don't understand the 2:02 mark. He hits the vine that allows you to get to the area where the 6-7-8 warp pipes are, but he goes down a pipe right after that and ends up in the warp area anyway? If you climb the vine you come up through the floor where that hole is.
Doing it all while small Mario, not only because it takes 1 second too much time to become Super Mario, but because you're so damn good and "don't need no stinkin' mushroom!" Bravo, dude!
Everything you see is real. And there are loads of videos proving that he is legit. His current WR was even streamed live on Twitch. And he has done many runs at various events, including the 25th Years Anniversary for Mario, with people like Shigeru Miyamoto watching. Can't get any more real than that.
Anyone know if the physics or control is different in the gba ”nes classics” version? I can't seem to be able to do as tiny of jumps as he does like in the pipe on 1-1. Or on 1-2 when he jumps on the koopa abd the 2 goombas right after the 2 koopas.
at 2:05 he jumps into that pipe which takes him into that coin land, when i do that[ipe it dosent work i have to take the vine, is he cheating or somehelp
I somehow opened this in two tabs, the second about 5 seconds after the first. The sound was extremely confusing. "How is he jumping when the screen is black..?"
Someone pleaseee help me. Level 1-2 is the only one I can't speed run somewhat consistently on my PAL version because at 0:52 the turtle thingy is too far under the bricks for me to jump over him 99% of the time. WWHHYY??
How does he do the warp at 4-2. I follow the exact movement and path but when I go down the pipe, I'm in a room with coins, not the warp zone. Can anyone clarify? Granted, I am using an emulator/ROM. Is this why? Is the version I have different than the cartridge version?
It should work with all NES releases of the game, both US and EU versions on all platforms. It's done by delaying the camera position. Fastest done, as shown in the video, to backwards jump into corners.
+Plamondonl7000 It's not too hard with enough practice, and for a short run like this people would have practiced that specific jump A LOT because it is necessary to have it down.
Some things for people to know. First. Hit boxes. The graphic on the screen has nothing to do with the thing that registers Mario as being hit. Ie the teeth on the pipe plants does no damage, rather it is the stem that is in the hit box. I have seen many speed runs of this game (including live events) and nothing he does is cheating at all.
People who don't understand programming glitches will never accept that this is a real speed run. This game was a very complicated feat of programming in the year 1985; glitches were bound to be discovered and there was no internet to release fixes. I have seen speed runs very similar to this in real life on real NES consoles with real Super Mario Bros. cartridges. Well done on the world record, sir.
One question... In 4-2 you went In a pipe and it took you to the warp when you are supposed to go on the vine. How do you do that? I heard of a backwards jump pipe glitch for that but I'm not sure.
No, its actually cuts out a good deal of the level by going through the pipe. That is probably the most well know and used shortcut in the game. None of his jumps were to get any coins or power-ups but rather calculated to slow or speed up the run so that he hits everything perfectly or to activate things like the vine.
haaaa forget it ... I just think that most of NOOBS does not know certain passages of the game as the rebound on the tube suspended, or that you have not convinced some steps PERFECT and killing some enemies these are things that at first sight may shock! I take that as a compliment! xD Great beautiful Speedrun, my friend ... CIOA!
Please someone explain how i can get to play this Real mario.. Do i have to buy a Nintendo game? or can i get it for my PC? Please or is there any hand held game like the PSP type that can play this original mario? I'll prefer the portable device that can play this game. Please someone help.. Thanks
4:06. If he didn't slow down, he would get a time of 243, which gives you fireworks. Delaying an in game second is faster. 3:26. You can't clear this without slowing down, and doing it backwards is slightly faster. 2:05. By jumping into the walls you can change the camera position slightly. This was done to be able to use the pipe to reach the warp zone, which normally requires the vine. And as said, explained in the description ;). (Except for the 3:26 part...)
This brings back memories for me. I bought my daughter the system for Christmas in early '80 and wired the game up on Christmas Eve (so it would be ready on Christmas morning). I started playing and got hooked and played almost until daylight. I remember my thumb was sore all Christmas day..lol She spent untold hours on this game and eventually was able to make it through to the end and play through a second time (with much more deadly creatures). I recall a spot where 2 turtles are coming down the steps and if you timed it right (killing them) one of them got stuck and oscillated back and forth accumulating extra lives until the lives counter maxed out over a hundred. From there you could continue for hours even though you got killed.
That is explained in his description. Normally, you need to take the pipe to the right of the lavapit to reach the water area. But if you just load the pipe, you can use the left one instead. This saves a little bit of time.
brottarnacke The game can only support a certain number of hitboxes at a time, and the number of these hammers greatly exceed that limit, therefore some of the hammers don't have hitboxes.
Yes and No yeah the game cant deal with many hitboxes in a very short amount of time, but about 1 sec after the hammers are in the air all of them have their hitboxes working perfectly (and you only got that first barrage to pass trought, then all of them will have a correct hitbox)
+lordleoo glitching is when u break the game by accident or on purpose it can help beat the whoke game in no time but some glitches can lead to disasters
April Trombley Just found this comment while scrolling through this comment section: "+artao5 oh, I see .. you're making use of glitches well screw that!! playing glitches isn't legitimately playing the damn game PFFT lol ... whatever. enjoy your "glory"" Some people...
Do you explain me why he dived in pipe in world 4-2 and went in world 8-1 after he had found the plant? I tried so, but the pipe couldn't teleport me, I found yourself in standard secret underground world with coins...
Nice job. After hearing all the explanations about hit boxes (they sound legit, this seems in fact to be real) I only wish I could get myself a version of the original mario to try them out. I've only played other versions, on other games (terminator 2) and this could not be done there. Hammers had such a long range it was impossible to go between them, and I've played this a LOT. I especially wanna try that jump when you're falling right next to an object, that jump inception, jump within a jump, it looks so cool.
Danger Edm Good thing there is a video description =). Here is some more detailed information about the game: kb.speeddemosarchive.com/Super_Mario_Bros
0:00 Bowser: Bah hah hah, let's see that plumber defeat me now, I've arrayed entire armies against him, defences, minions that fly, walk, crawl on the walls and ceilings. 1:36 *distant gunshot*
The way that one works is that when all the hammers are thrown at once, it takes awhile for the game to operate them. This results in them all not having a working hitbox shorlty after being thrown: i.imgur.com/hBB91Us.png But after awhile, they are all working fine: i.imgur.com/T4mKIAF.png
It's possible to skim the hammers that close. You just have to be lucky. I mean its hard to watch a video like this and not at least entertain the thought of foul play.
andrewg1990, this is pretty awesome. I always laugh when I watch your video because I think to myself "I bet the developers didn't have this in mind when they made this game." I saw you posted that you wanted to do faster runs. I have a small tip for you that might actually speed you up: At the end of the levels I notice you always jump to the top of the flagpole. I think it would shave some time off your run if you did not do that. Just fall down and then jump to the very bottom of the flagpole. Think of it as a right triangle. You would be falling down (the hypotenuse) which would be a shorter distance than jumping across and going down the flagpole. Not to mention sliding down the flagpole takes longer than you just falling down to the floor. You get less points but you're doing a speed-run not a points run. I look forward to seeing your next speed-run on this game.
Already explained in the movie description that it is not faster to land on the pole lower down. Unless you do a glitch that skips the flag from going down at all, but the input is too precise for real time runners. The waiting time for the flag is the same no matter where you land on it. However, if Mario avoids landing on the bottom block when he jumps off the flagpole, he'll reach the castle 11 frames earlier.
I was wondering how on Level 4-2 you where able to use the pipe instead of the vine lol, I tried it a few times till i realized that you need to jump backwards to get the glitch :), and props to your posted questionnaire.
As mentioned, read the description. It's explained why that pipe could be used. No matter what you may believe, everything in the run is 100% real and can be repeated on console in real time without cheating devices.
The end time for all SMB runs is when you hit the axe, as that's when you stop being able to control the character. And the start time is from beginning of 1-1, which is at 0:08. For a time of 4:58.898. This info is also clearly stated in the description, just need to learn how to read =).
fyrrocker25 well, no. The flag has to come down anyway, BUT Mario moves faster backwards when he’s going to the right. So, if he’s at the top, he runs backwards more and it’s faster.
the weird thing i keep seeing is the warp zone in world 2 every time i see it i think i must have had a weird version of the original 8-bit because my warpzone in world 2 offered warps to worlds 3, 4 and 5
practice makes man perfect... must have practiced so many times to play like dis...anyways dude u have refreshed my childhood memory... dis was one of my favourite game and hope u remember contra....
"Mario!! Bowser kidnapped me again!!!"
"Dammit again? Sigh... I'll be there in 5 minutes."
"You're seventeen seconds late".
I read too much comments that said Andrew cheated.
1. The video was uploaded live at Twitch.
2. Andrew played on NES, not on emulator.
3. He happened to write some questions about the run in the description and answer them.
4. People that cry haven't played this game yet and they have no idea.
TheJapanornothing tru
He used Windows XP.
@@AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn and?
@@3SZ He was the first person to beat Super Mario Bros. Germaphobic Speedrunner's Edition without savestates, which increases the credibility of this run.
@@AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn i dont know what you mean but i assume it's a good thing
this game seems cool whens is it coming out
Gr8 b8 m8. I r8 8/8
its coming out late 1986. We are going to need a time machine to get it though.
***** Yup :)
Ze Keeni 1985.
On September 13th, 1985
Peach: Come over Mario
Mario: Im busy
Peach: Bowser isn't home
Mario: *this video*
If someone ever gets a 4:57, I will be EXTREMELY impressed. 4:57 should be a perfect console time. It requires “hitting the lottery”.
7 years later and we have a 4:55
5 years later and we have 4:54
We will have 4:50 eventually
@@SamTheS It's now
Now 4:54
4:54 guys :)
For all of you ignorant casual scumbags out there who cant do these things:
- Do some research before making dumb accusations
- Read description
- Actually listen to Tompa A
Here's some info about this:
First off, the timing starts when the runner starts the game and 1-1 screen pops up, and ends at 8-4 when Mario touches the axe that drops Bowser into lava. Then the run itself. Original SMB didn't have too good hitboxes so you can jump over the Piranha Plants while running without getting killed, since Mario's hitbox doesn't hit Piranha Plant's hitbox. Also, SMB couldn't handle many hitboxes at one screen, so all of the hammers didn't actually have hitbox. There's couple of other things that are done in this run, but I'm too lazy to mention them, if you still wonder if this is cheated, go ahead and ask Tompa A himself about it, he can enlighten you. Anyways, I'm pretty sure that Andrew (the runner) himself can't really do anything else but laugh at these comments, but would you please actually have some respect for his skills? Like also would you do some research before making incredibly stupid accusations? That's all I have to say .__.
This footage has been tampered with. If you look closely at about 5:12 you'll see a woman who isn't in the kitchen. Clearly he hacked the game.
I love this
Quiet you
That would explain why he jumped through plants
***** All in good humor.
2011:4:57 is like winning the lottery!
2019:4:54 is like winning the lottery!
202X:even saving a frame is like winning the lottery!
2021: 4:53 or better in tas at all is like winning the lottery b2b!
@@ThaAwesome10 I got the TAS for Super Mario Bros. Extended: It was a 4:53.749!
Andrewg Hey I’m just commenting on your most popular video because I don’t have a twitter. Please just know. You Are NOT forgettable, you are NOT done, washed up, or anything. No one got record during the livestream for chase the record you’ll be fine. You’re having technical difficulties so it’s not your fault. If you aren’t as good at new strata as other people maybe you are just getting older. You have been speedrunning consistently for 10 years now and I think you are STILL a wonderful twitch personality and just as entertaining as darbian. The fact that you have been playing and entertaining for 10 Years is amazing!! Be proud of yourself. And you have an amazing warpless time!!! Anyway, I can’t say If you’ll ever get the Mario record back, but it doesn’t matter. You’ve left a legacy for all the future runners and inspired all of the current runners. Heck you are darbian’s main influence he completely idolizes you. Everyone has a rough night once in a while. I’ve noticed your mood swings on twitter and I get worried. I have anxiety too sometimes and I get overwhelmed and have a lot of mood swings. I can understand that you are busy and I am NOT angry if you don’t keep a consistent schedule (heck I’m in high school and waaaaaaaaaaaay to busy to watch regularly anyway). I think speedrunning is awesome and it’s my favorite thing to watch online. I want to have a twitch when I get out of college. I like running sm64 but I think the smb community is much friendlier and I may need to try rubbing it someday.
Anyway, that’s all I have to say. Don’t worry about others judging you. You’ve already proved yourself to the world. You don’t need to prove your worth. You are beautiful with or without the record. Just hold your head high and be YOU. Play whatever you want. You will always be entertaining even if you speedrun E. T. (: (crappy game lol) I mean darb was entertaining even with dragster). Don’t let life get to you. Also don’t be afraid to take a break from streaming if things get too tough. I hope this helped, I know I’m just one young girl commenting on a TH-cam video but I just hope that you will be encouraged!
i love ur speach and it help as well only for andrew. but just be thankfull for other people as well andrew was my first run player i watch and i injoyed his videos
That final jump through axes was SOOO freaking lucky...=)
Nah, last axe has no hit box
Nope, it's consistent
Clearly he understands the game mechanics but why is it that i remember dying at every fricken smallest touch of everything, and he just walks right through them
-__-
I know
If you'd play a little more you would see how broken the hitboxes actually are. You can for example jump through piranha plants.
I was young when the game came out, so I said screw this and played street fighter instead
Its what they call frame perfect i believe.
jodnecroman Not frame perfect... pixel perfect(but not even). The hitboxes of the enemies aren't exactly taking the space of the entire enemy, so you can just jump right through them as if they are nothing.
4:38 Never been seen Mario ninja move in the history of Nintendo entertainment!
And people complain BF4 is buggy lol
When peach asks mario to save her, he's like, " don't worry babe; i'll be there in 5 minutes."
LIAR!!! IT DIDN'T
random54321 Nope he did!
ComputerDude2600 When? I don't see and videos of this game saying that.
random54321 Oh, you know, it wasn't a joke or anything.
random54321 That was want as a joke. there is no text about what Johnny G said, because it's a joke. You need to learn what is and what is not a joke.
people in 2008: 4:59 will never happen
people in 2020: 4:59 one-handed, or coin-less take it or leave it
4:57*
Awesome ! Do you have link with this video ? I want to hear those commentaries =)
Description 4:57 would be the human limit. It would be like winning the lottery.
2018 Kosmis: Hold my beer for 4:55 min
Now Niftski 4:54
if you think this is cheating, learn what hitboxes are,and get an understanding for games
Baseball Caniac i think it’s more that the hitboxes in smb are really screwed.
Mah gawd.
That's fast.
***** Trust me. That man is crazy!
People in 2008: 4:59 will never happen
Meanwhile in 2021 Niftski got a 4:54
I agree. Like at 1:23-1:26 people say "Wah, you can't jump over those plants you cheated Wah boo hoo!". It IS actually possible to legitimately jump over those Piranha Plants.
Pixel perfect jumps, you're amazing.
fun videos here on your channel! Awesome content, we'll be checking out more. Keep up the good work!
Hello roblox man
Never in a billion years i thought i'd see you here
^
Hi
So, it turns out that someone actually beat this guy and got a 4:57, which is incredible, but I wish Andrew still had the world record though
I plan to start doing attempts again in the next few days, and continue until I regain the record. I'm at Twitch.tv/andrewg1990 if you care to watch some live attempts!
andrewg1990 Alright! I will :D
andrewg1990 you cheated
+andrewg1990 i think the mistake you made was the bump in 4:08, which if you didnt bump into that you wouldve gotten a much better time
+Shinonome Nano That's exactly what I thought too, that's the only true noticeable mistake
It's really interesting to see how, despite knowing about the extra framerule in 8-1 that you save by hitting the starblock, you still didn't go for the pipe jump and instead went for the one frame goomba jump
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@andrewg1990 I tried the 4-2 Warp Pipe glitch when you went backwards, and it didn't work. I'm using an emulator.
***** you have to stop on the pipe before going down.
andrewg1990 Thanks for the tip, but I still can't do it. I'm doing a speed run video, too. I'd like it if you please help me get past that part. Here is the Dropbox link. www.dropbox.com/s/mslnsolaipidwgz/Super%20Mario%20Bros.%20%28Japan%2C%20USA%29.fm3?dl=0
Tell me when you figure it out please :)
Josh K. Who are you talking to? Me or andrewg.
***** You Chris. I'm trying to speedrun as well and it kind of sucks trying to get this part down, but failing every time :(
What I want to know is how are you jumping through the piranha plants.... like you literally fly through them when in mario that would count as you dying.
Not in this game it wouldn't, no. The reason is because of the bad hitbox detection in the game. Also please read the movie's description that already explains things like this.
Yeah I read after I made the comment haha. But I noticed he could've knocked about 0.005 of second off his time if he'd of jumped higher near the end where he gets caught on the platform, still impressed though.
Hitting the flagpole sooner triggers fireworks, which loses time overall.
Hi
Tompa A oh please I played this game all day today I never went through them.
There are several videos where he is playing live in front of an audience, Shigeru Miyamoto included. And his latest WR was even streamed live on Twitch with commentary.
This guy is the real deal.
Great job! Amazing! This 100% legit! stop making stupid comments about hacks
Wouldnt it be faster to get less coins? So that the counting at the end would be some miliseconds shorter :D
No, because game time is lost in 0.35 sec intervals. Google "21 frame rule"
5:06 really????
h i t b o x e s
1. Read the description.
2. Do some research about the runner.
3. Play the game.
Have a nice day.
idk if its fake but i seen him going through the plants some times, maby its a game bug or a cheat, i cant say for 100%
It's a glitch in the game, this is a verified video.
its gaming mechanics snes smb is made that way
It's NES Shitty (awesome) hitboxes,
lol
You people need to fucking gi back to god damn nes game and try glitches out, dont assume there piece of shit cheats ok.
anyone else notice THAT THIS GUY CLEARLY HACKED THE GAME TO PASS THROUGH ENEMYS
i tried the whole hitbox error thing AND I DIED
plus even if it is an actual glitch shouldnt a speedrun u know be a LEGITAMENT PLAYTHROUGH
not to mention 5:05 once again TRYED IT AND I DIED
Speedrunning is completing a non-modified game in a short amount of time. Speedrunning uses *any techniques that is available in the game only* to complete the game.
And that is the definition of speedrun.
Try as much as you like. Everything you see here is 100% legit and can be done on the NES version of the game.
true but i would like to see a non glitched speedrun
datrandomyoutubecommenter No speedrunners would like to do that. Not even ordinary players. Because doing that stuff (in other games. Super Mario Bros is kinda easy) is too easy and does not need to remember which part to do this and that. (Like Half Life for example)
Read the description
u were hit 12 times without death.hax r 2storng
Thank the game's bad hitbox detection for that. Works the same for everyone.
Also, Game Genie helps.
five Game Genie wasn't used though, or any other cheat devices or game modifications.
cool story m8
grow up
Top of plant's can't kill you. You can see the hitboxes of enemies here, go to 1:25 for the flowers: watch?v=hoUmUs9PeI0.
At 4:06 he survive because as long as you are falling, you'll stomp on enemies no matter where you hit them. May sound weird, but that's how it is.
The hammers in the end are a special case. Because too many spawn at ones, they game can't handle them. So some hammers may not have a hitbox. imgur. com/lUAIOEY.png
Though after awhile, they all will: imgur. com/T4mKIAF.png
using a warp is cheating though soooooo
Well, it isn't. But you can watch his WR of Warpless instead if you like: watch?v=OElKnBYoQxo
It's not cheat.
its inteanded to be in the game so nope its not cheating
Using features of the game is literally as far from cheating as you can possibly get.
You sound like the kid no one wanted to play any games with because he'd make up whatever arbitrary rules were needed to make it impossible for him to lose.
People like you annoy me. If it's in the game it's not cheating. And using glitches that were never fixed and are part of the game isn't cheating either. If he hacked or changed ANYTHING in the game to make it run faster than it's considered cheating. But as we can see this dude speed-running this game didn't do any of that. Only skill and memory were used in this run. Fuck off Steve and have yourself a nice day.
I still find this cheating. Using warp zones is extremely cheap and they gaming society these days are so fucking crap they allow this crisp to count. I know it was put into the game but it shouldn't be counted.
How about u shut up and respect this guys mario skills
The problem is that when you create restrictions, everyone disagrees on what is allowed or isn't. Allowing everything solves this problem at a competitive level. Many games could be maxed out for time if glitches or tricks weren't allowed. Also, there are always various categories. This is with warps, but I have runs without wars as well
Miyamoto himself said that warp zones were made for people who were good at a game to reach harder areas quicker. Warp zones are CLEARLY meant to be used, otherwise why would they put them in the game?
the people above me have been too polite here.
warp zones are put into the game with the intent to be used. glitches are things in the game that are not intended to be used. so even if you're a stupid "glitches are cheating" shit-for-brains, you'd still allow warp zones, because they aren't glitches. but no, it seems to me that you're worse than those people. until you can tie the world record you have no right to talk shit andrew's run.
It said "Speed run" not "100% clear + speed run"
I don't understand the 2:02 mark. He hits the vine that allows you to get to the area where the 6-7-8 warp pipes are, but he goes down a pipe right after that and ends up in the warp area anyway? If you climb the vine you come up through the floor where that hole is.
Doing it all while small Mario, not only because it takes 1 second too much time to become Super Mario, but because you're so damn good and "don't need no stinkin' mushroom!" Bravo, dude!
Was flagpole glitch not known about at the time this run was done?
Not yet possible in real-time. I never expected there to be a consistent method for the setup.
I cant get the "show more" option or description
Everything you see is real. And there are loads of videos proving that he is legit.
His current WR was even streamed live on Twitch. And he has done many runs at various events, including the 25th Years Anniversary for Mario, with people like Shigeru Miyamoto watching.
Can't get any more real than that.
Anyone know if the physics or control is different in the gba ”nes classics” version? I can't seem to be able to do as tiny of jumps as he does like in the pipe on 1-1. Or on 1-2 when he jumps on the koopa abd the 2 goombas right after the 2 koopas.
Stop cheating (in all actuality this was very impressive and I compliment your skill in this game).
He didn't cheat
I know.
+Cynical Ash did you only read the first two words of his comment?
+Monte Schellenberger it was probably edited later
No it wasn't it says the comment is edited right next to it if you do.
at 2:05 he jumps into that pipe which takes him into that coin land, when i do that[ipe it dosent work i have to take the vine, is he cheating or somehelp
I somehow opened this in two tabs, the second about 5 seconds after the first. The sound was extremely confusing. "How is he jumping when the screen is black..?"
Someone pleaseee help me. Level 1-2 is the only one I can't speed run somewhat consistently on my PAL version because at 0:52 the turtle thingy is too far under the bricks for me to jump over him 99% of the time. WWHHYY??
How does he do the warp at 4-2. I follow the exact movement and path but when I go down the pipe, I'm in a room with coins, not the warp zone. Can anyone clarify? Granted, I am using an emulator/ROM. Is this why? Is the version I have different than the cartridge version?
It's explained in the FAQ (click "show more"). The pipe pointer is compromised by jumping into objects and changing Mario's screen position.
How does the warp glitch in level 4-2 work Is this only possible in certain versions? And if it is is it possible in wii u vc European version?
It should work with all NES releases of the game, both US and EU versions on all platforms.
It's done by delaying the camera position. Fastest done, as shown in the video, to backwards jump into corners.
How did you do the wall jump without TAS?
+Plamondonl7000 It's not too hard with enough practice, and for a short run like this people would have practiced that specific jump A LOT because it is necessary to have it down.
Some things for people to know. First. Hit boxes. The graphic on the screen has nothing to do with the thing that registers Mario as being hit. Ie the teeth on the pipe plants does no damage, rather it is the stem that is in the hit box. I have seen many speed runs of this game (including live events) and nothing he does is cheating at all.
Amazing...great job my friend, thanks for posting!
People who don't understand programming glitches will never accept that this is a real speed run. This game was a very complicated feat of programming in the year 1985; glitches were bound to be discovered and there was no internet to release fixes. I have seen speed runs very similar to this in real life on real NES consoles with real Super Mario Bros. cartridges. Well done on the world record, sir.
One question... In 4-2 you went In a pipe and it took you to the warp when you are supposed to go on the vine. How do you do that? I heard of a backwards jump pipe glitch for that but I'm not sure.
Hi andrew. I'm practicing for this run, is it possible to do the 4-2 vine glitch on an emulator (i use FCEUS 2.2.2)?
Thank you
garadas21 everything on NES is possible on emulator
How come you went in the pipe at 0:14 just to get coins? Didn't that slow you down?
No, its actually cuts out a good deal of the level by going through the pipe. That is probably the most well know and used shortcut in the game. None of his jumps were to get any coins or power-ups but rather calculated to slow or speed up the run so that he hits everything perfectly or to activate things like the vine.
haaaa
forget it ...
I just think that most of NOOBS does not know certain passages of the game
as the rebound on the tube suspended, or that you have not convinced some steps PERFECT and killing some enemies
these are things that at first sight may shock!
I take that as a compliment! xD
Great beautiful Speedrun, my friend ...
CIOA!
Please someone explain how i can get to play this Real mario.. Do i have to buy a Nintendo game? or can i get it for my PC? Please or is there any hand held game like the PSP type that can play this original mario? I'll prefer the portable device that can play this game. Please someone help.. Thanks
get it for the Game Boy Advance
If you get it for the game boy advance just know it’s very different than the original
Wouldnt it be faster to land at the bottom of the pole to save time on the fall, and the score counter ?
Check the first question in the description.
Tompa A im such a scrub...ah well thanks for pointing it out, hopefully i'll actually learn to read the description everytime
All without getting high on 'shrooms.
literally
lol 😂🤣
Yeah, I already thought you were slow doing a 4:59.4 speed run :) You are crazy man!
4:06. If he didn't slow down, he would get a time of 243, which gives you fireworks. Delaying an in game second is faster.
3:26. You can't clear this without slowing down, and doing it backwards is slightly faster.
2:05. By jumping into the walls you can change the camera position slightly. This was done to be able to use the pipe to reach the warp zone, which normally requires the vine.
And as said, explained in the description ;). (Except for the 3:26 part...)
This brings back memories for me. I bought my daughter the system for Christmas in early '80 and wired the game up on Christmas Eve (so it would be ready on Christmas morning). I started playing and got hooked and played almost until daylight. I remember my thumb was sore all Christmas day..lol She spent untold hours on this game and eventually was able to make it through to the end and play through a second time (with much more deadly creatures). I recall a spot where 2 turtles are coming down the steps and if you timed it right (killing them) one of them got stuck and oscillated back and forth accumulating extra lives until the lives counter maxed out over a hundred. From there you could continue for hours even though you got killed.
Tempo aproximado sem usar os atalhos?
Approximate time without using shortcuts?
His warpless WR is 19:12, you can find it on his channel.
That is explained in his description.
Normally, you need to take the pipe to the right of the lavapit to reach the water area. But if you just load the pipe, you can use the left one instead. This saves a little bit of time.
How did you pass through Bowser's hammers at 5.06?
brottarnacke collision detection fail :P honestly if you pause the video you will see that he got hit.
Nevin Rhymer
It's probably a glitch in the game, which he did admit to exploiting.
brottarnacke The hitbox detection is no glitch. Learn more about it and more here: kb.speeddemosarchive.com/Super_Mario_Bros
brottarnacke The game can only support a certain number of hitboxes at a time, and the number of these hammers greatly exceed that limit, therefore some of the hammers don't have hitboxes.
Yes and No
yeah the game cant deal with many hitboxes in a very short amount of time, but about 1 sec after the hammers are in the air all of them have their hitboxes working perfectly (and you only got that first barrage to pass trought, then all of them will have a correct hitbox)
What if you don't take any warps in 8-4? Can you still finish or run into dead end?
The level just loops. You need to take the correct order of pipes to reach Bowser
I still don't understand why people still claim that glitching is cheating...
+April Trombley what's glitching?
+lordleoo glitching is when u break the game by accident or on purpose it can help beat the whoke game in no time but some glitches can lead to disasters
False Image I know that. I am a speedrunner myself. However, I don't get why people are yet to understand the concept of glitching
heartboy I know, right?
specifically, i'm talking about the retards who are always just so fucking confused.
April Trombley Just found this comment while scrolling through this comment section: "+artao5 oh, I see .. you're making use of glitches
well screw that!! playing glitches isn't legitimately playing the damn game
PFFT lol ... whatever. enjoy your "glory""
Some people...
Do you explain me why he dived in pipe in world 4-2 and went in world 8-1 after he had found the plant? I tried so, but the pipe couldn't teleport me, I found yourself in standard secret underground world with coins...
It normally leads to the warp pipe area. It's explained in the description why he could use the pipe to reach it.
Nice job. After hearing all the explanations about hit boxes (they sound legit, this seems in fact to be real) I only wish I could get myself a version of the original mario to try them out. I've only played other versions, on other games (terminator 2) and this could not be done there. Hammers had such a long range it was impossible to go between them, and I've played this a LOT. I especially wanna try that jump when you're falling right next to an object, that jump inception, jump within a jump, it looks so cool.
@Yoshi jr. You are not accounting for the start up screens, which last about 8 seconds
5:06 how did you not die while trying to jump through the hammers / over Bowser?!
click "show more" below video
Try playing it, it's an easy thing to do. Savestate and run until you get it. (Although this doesn't have savestate)
weird at 4:30-4:31 the plant disappears then at 5:06 he is clearly hit by Bowser's hammer and does not die.
That plant always disappears idk why. The hammers are weird hit detection
The princess was like: "Oh shiiii, Mario came in 5 minutes instead of like an hour. I didn't even have time to shave my legs!"
I use an emulator to called an nes emulator and on 4-2 it didn't work at all every time when i get close to the wall mario dosen't jump
how did you wall jump off the pipe in world 8 4 and how are you jumping through piranha plant$
Danger Edm Good thing there is a video description =).
Here is some more detailed information about the game: kb.speeddemosarchive.com/Super_Mario_Bros
Bowser: Hey Mario, wanna hang out?
Mario: Sure! Be there in 5 minutes!
at the start of 4-2, isn't it faster to jump on the single block and on top, instead of the double and going under
0:00 Bowser: Bah hah hah, let's see that plumber defeat me now, I've arrayed entire armies against him, defences, minions that fly, walk, crawl on the walls and ceilings.
1:36 *distant gunshot*
I accidently did the 4-2 glitch once but I don't understand how the glitch works...
I understand the hitbox and all, but the 5:06 thing is extremely fishy
The way that one works is that when all the hammers are thrown at once, it takes awhile for the game to operate them. This results in them all not having a working hitbox shorlty after being thrown: i.imgur.com/hBB91Us.png
But after awhile, they are all working fine: i.imgur.com/T4mKIAF.png
It's possible to skim the hammers that close. You just have to be lucky. I mean its hard to watch a video like this and not at least entertain the thought of foul play.
andrewg1990, this is pretty awesome. I always laugh when I watch your video because I think to myself "I bet the developers didn't have this in mind when they made this game."
I saw you posted that you wanted to do faster runs. I have a small tip for you that might actually speed you up:
At the end of the levels I notice you always jump to the top of the flagpole. I think it would shave some time off your run if you did not do that. Just fall down and then jump to the very bottom of the flagpole. Think of it as a right triangle. You would be falling down (the hypotenuse) which would be a shorter distance than jumping across and going down the flagpole. Not to mention sliding down the flagpole takes longer than you just falling down to the floor. You get less points but you're doing a speed-run not a points run.
I look forward to seeing your next speed-run on this game.
Already explained in the movie description that it is not faster to land on the pole lower down. Unless you do a glitch that skips the flag from going down at all, but the input is too precise for real time runners.
The waiting time for the flag is the same no matter where you land on it. However, if Mario avoids landing on the bottom block when he jumps off the flagpole, he'll reach the castle 11 frames earlier.
Tompa A Cool. I should have hit the "Show More" button. : )
porkshanker Always a good thing to do =).
I was wondering how on Level 4-2 you where able to use the pipe instead of the vine lol, I tried it a few times till i realized that you need to jump backwards to get the glitch :), and props to your posted questionnaire.
As mentioned, read the description. It's explained why that pipe could be used. No matter what you may believe, everything in the run is 100% real and can be repeated on console in real time without cheating devices.
Isn't it faster if you get to the lower part of the pole when finishing a level? you dont get the long animation, and you will save some seconds
Question #1 in the movie's description.
Tompa A thanks, did not notice
how do you make yourself fall faster after jumping
How did you jump through the line of hammers?
2x speed makes it look like a sonic game XD
ok more like 1.5 :/
The end time for all SMB runs is when you hit the axe, as that's when you stop being able to control the character.
And the start time is from beginning of 1-1, which is at 0:08. For a time of 4:58.898.
This info is also clearly stated in the description, just need to learn how to read =).
what if you went lower on the flag? wouldn't it be a little faster?
fyrrocker25 well, no. The flag has to come down anyway, BUT Mario moves faster backwards when he’s going to the right. So, if he’s at the top, he runs backwards more and it’s faster.
I really believe my generation of 1985 will never get tired of video games
You're awesome bro..
nice gaming skill..:o
After watching this, I set the record for having the most numbers of mini heart attacks in less than 5 minutes.
the weird thing i keep seeing is the warp zone in world 2 every time i see it i think i must have had a weird version of the original 8-bit because my warpzone in world 2 offered warps to worlds 3, 4 and 5
Looks legit to me...I've played this since'85,when the duck hunt game was built right in to the same game . I say good for you ,andrewg.
This isn't the world record currently I'm seeing one in the suggestions right now with 4:57.69.
practice makes man perfect... must have practiced so many times to play like dis...anyways dude u have refreshed my childhood memory... dis was one of my favourite game and hope u remember contra....
this guy obviously 24/7 playing video games i am proud xD