GRAND FINALS: Maru vs. Serral - Starcraft 2

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  • @yuvl32
    @yuvl32 2 ปีที่แล้ว +407

    I love the “standing against overwhelming alien invasion” vibe these fights have.

    • @LPZonline
      @LPZonline 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      why TvZ is my favourite match up~

  • @okamiman73
    @okamiman73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    I think the best part of this vid is how expressive Serral is at the end. I think that's the most expressive, non-angry I've ever seen him lmao

    • @drewpaiva93
      @drewpaiva93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah!! I think he lost his virginity, he's looking like a man now

    • @Caldera01
      @Caldera01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't think I've ever seen Serral angry? Must be a Finnish thing...
      If anything he has seemed disappointed / frustrated more than angry.

  • @0nelove__472
    @0nelove__472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    that neural parasite on the ghost, then emp. just wow. well done serral

  • @Vazalemma
    @Vazalemma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    It would also be cool to highlight the final game of ShoWTimE vs Serral, that game was one in a million

    • @ericxu7023
      @ericxu7023 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks for pointing this out, I am going to watch this one straight away

    • @l_ifeefi_l1998
      @l_ifeefi_l1998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I like how u type out their names proper lol

  • @superpantman
    @superpantman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I love that Serral has adapted his playstyle. His 2018 domination was off the back of insane infestor broodlord control. I think when ghosts become such a strong counter to that he struggled. I saw him lose quite often to Clem.
    Now he is changing it up so much, even going for early timing attacks and dropperlords and nydus harass. He still uses infestors a lot which I enjoy as they're my favourite zerg unit.

  • @peacefulwarrior90
    @peacefulwarrior90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Love the observer in this cast. The pip is super fun to see both perspectives.

  • @efijas
    @efijas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Finally new content. We missed you dearly

  • @blue-phoenix115
    @blue-phoenix115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Parasiting the ghost to EMP the other ghosts... Brilliant!

  • @Kevin-du7qt
    @Kevin-du7qt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Serral has been on a tear lately. It took him a bit to adapt to the zerg nerfs, but he has looked unbeatable as of late. I haven't seen Maru get stomped like this in a while. Literally 4-1 maru and none of the games looked close except for the one he lost which seemed like an early tap.

  • @RachelTension
    @RachelTension 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    has there ever been a maru vs serral game that wasn't a highlight?

  • @gambit0913
    @gambit0913 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Watching Serap play is like how I envision Zerg to be like but it’s insane he does this in a competitive setting

  • @ElAndoro
    @ElAndoro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Im glad you still provide us with flawless cuts

  • @Tomoyuki_Tanaka
    @Tomoyuki_Tanaka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    That was a lot more one-sided than I thought it would be...

    • @marcoscuaritegonzales1305
      @marcoscuaritegonzales1305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      In Marus webcam Maru was rubbing his hand quite alot in between games, he wasnt at his bestself

    • @Tomoyuki_Tanaka
      @Tomoyuki_Tanaka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marcoscuaritegonzales1305 Damn, I hope he is all right.

  • @Metaspace2
    @Metaspace2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Maru's micro and mental discipline in defending against a superior supply count over and over is legendary. Serral's strategic thinking was something else.
    Incredible skill from both payers!

  • @gcl2783
    @gcl2783 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Excellent casting of excellent games.

  • @ENZ2103
    @ENZ2103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was really hoping to see another game between these 2 on your channel. You sure do have some serendipitous timing!

  • @seri-ously8591
    @seri-ously8591 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I had to take a shower after that seeing Serral doing Maru dirty like that. It was like watching campaign Terran vs Zerg, Terran getting bled dry and eventually overrun. Serral playing really greedy helped so much against Maru.

  • @GabrielSantosStandardCombo
    @GabrielSantosStandardCombo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    There's nothing quite like watching Serral's swarm flood down Maru's defenses, over and over again.

  • @MattSipka
    @MattSipka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    16:20 commentary here is on point. Might as well take a majority of workers from your well-secured natural expansions and drain the resources from the contested bases that your army already has on lockdown.

    • @arandombard1197
      @arandombard1197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm surprised it's not done more often when you expect to split the map, or even as a threat against your opponent who is trying to go for a late game map split. Zerg often take those outer bases first, then the Terran will fight its way out and retake them. So why not drain those outer ones first, then come back and finish off the inner bases later?

    • @Tonius126
      @Tonius126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arandombard1197 you risk your workers if you pause your offensive too long for a counter attack probably.

    • @lordbry470
      @lordbry470 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arandombard1197 Cos its a very risky move. Do that and both your army and economy is at risk.

    • @arandombard1197
      @arandombard1197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lordbry470 Yeah, it's a difficult thing to balance. But eventually you will have to move your economy to the outer bases anyway, so now it's at risk but you have no alternatives.
      A lot of Zerg - Terran/Protoss games seem to favour Terran in these situations so it feels like it might be worth the risk. Especially as the Terran/Protoss often just turtles knowing they will win due to efficiency, while the Zerg throws wave after wave at them. Use that defensiveness against them by draining the outer bases quickly, then when it transitions to the more attrition based end-game, none of your economy will be on the frontlines and they won't be able to push you back to take a base, as they will all be empty. Meanwhile, they're opening themselves up to be vulnerable as they start saturating their outer bases.
      I'm not saying they should do it every time, just that's it an option. It's a bit like deciding to heavily drone up and neglect on your army, on the basis that you don't think your opponent will launch a powerful early attack and you can just out-economy them. If it works, it pays off but it can also be punished heavily.

    • @tiktac69
      @tiktac69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arandombard1197 Lowko will be very happy when he'll see that ^^

  • @ENFIKEFEPOKETC
    @ENFIKEFEPOKETC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    25:07 maru taking a page out of mengsk's book there

  • @alexsappington1587
    @alexsappington1587 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    ZG has improved so much on commentary, really great this match.

  • @andrewroyle2847
    @andrewroyle2847 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love seeing an expression on Serral's face that isn't deadpan. XD

  • @chrisklugh
    @chrisklugh ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching The Best vs The Best is remarkable. Normally both these players make SC look easy vs mostly everyone. But these 2 going at it just looks awesome!
    This is coming from mostly watching Maru own with Terran and rarely really watching Serral. So seeing him represent that Zerg Rush vs a very good Terran almost looks cinematic. I really love watching these 2 fight.

  • @ltigno
    @ltigno 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I clicked so fast after seeing “finals” and “Maru ve Serral”. 😂😂

    • @Caldera01
      @Caldera01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should see the Serral vs Showtime series from the same tournament.
      Serral really showing why he's the GOAT. You can audibly hear Showtime say "WTF dude?!" at the end of one special match between them in the series.

  • @Brucester47
    @Brucester47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great to see Serral get a much deserved win, hope Maru isnt being held back by his injury anymore

  • @Evarakeus
    @Evarakeus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That neural on the ghost in game 4 was beautiful

  • @ravikkar
    @ravikkar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally, an upload. I was starting to get worried.

  • @michaelcraven9539
    @michaelcraven9539 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zerg, the only race to change its weakness to a strength

  • @aneubeck4053
    @aneubeck4053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was the first time I’ve ever seen an unmorphed changeling. 26:30

  • @F4c2a
    @F4c2a 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "You don't split your army correctly it's an unfortunate situation for Maru"
    Welcome to Zerg 24/7, Terran keeps zooming drops left and right and if Zerg splits wrong he's dead while Terran can just zoom out if overwhelmed.

  • @aaronalquiza9680
    @aaronalquiza9680 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    for some reason the purple theme HUD/UI made memories of my childhood flow in my brain.

  • @keizan5132
    @keizan5132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To those of you who watched these highlights: watch the full thing too, it's worth every second.

  • @Necroneer
    @Necroneer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Serral is so good

  • @TheyForcedMyHandLE
    @TheyForcedMyHandLE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zerg swarm. How it should be played. Exciting to watch.

  • @rawoniongaming8100
    @rawoniongaming8100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    23:49 All it takes to deal with the ghosts that fought all game for him was one good neuro parasite... scary.

  • @tismurf2138
    @tismurf2138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gold ending 32:55

  • @piotrbelon8360
    @piotrbelon8360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad to see they are still doing great after that pandemic break. Starcraft dead game ? Never, as always

  • @sebastianpalominos3706
    @sebastianpalominos3706 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    i will insist
    creep+banelings killed the fun in starcraft

    • @iambrett333
      @iambrett333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      nah, this is literally the best player in the world. they only seem busted because his economy is so insane that he can re-up his baneling army 10 times

    • @sebastianpalominos3706
      @sebastianpalominos3706 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@iambrett333 dont get me wrong, he is indeed the best player in the world....but this doesnt change the fact that creep+banelings killed the fun in starcraft, just Attack command and make everything dissolve

    • @Tonius126
      @Tonius126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sebastianpalominos3706 Ghost killed the fun in ZvT. Counters infestors, vipers, ultralisk, Brutelords and lurkers becaue if EMP and Snipe. Nerf ghost, no variaty because of that stupid OP units obliterates everything.

    • @sebastianpalominos3706
      @sebastianpalominos3706 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tonius126 except for the fact that 1 infestor can neural and turn them deadmeat
      also, extremely expensive
      nothing compared to attack move and then replenish and another attack move

  • @gureguru4694
    @gureguru4694 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like the ling/bane spam then just use gas to build specific things to counter whatever maru is doing.

  • @donjuan3296
    @donjuan3296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn, Serral is looking strong.

  • @keonepatterson327
    @keonepatterson327 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like maru mightve held a bit better with some blue flame hellbats possibly in the backline for when the lings get thru, amazing games tho!

  • @samuelalbertoancallealcoce326
    @samuelalbertoancallealcoce326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Terran's strategy: tanks, hellbats, ghosts, marines, medevacs, even scv fight...
    Zerg's strategy: Zerlings and banelings. Oh, maybe a roach...

  • @Rath_9
    @Rath_9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve taken about a year break from watching Starcraft but man idk if Maru’s age is showing or what, but he did not look on form from how I remember him while Serral looks as strong as ever

    • @MrFarlarzia
      @MrFarlarzia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maru has health issues, causing pain in his hands amongst other things.

    • @marco_219
      @marco_219 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not like it takes incredible macro and micro to even compete against zerg :). /s

  • @naaadr3740
    @naaadr3740 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Serral giving off alphastar vibes like the roach all ins

  • @bozydarziemniak1853
    @bozydarziemniak1853 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    its like war of Starcraft Gods

  • @Contractor48
    @Contractor48 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Zerg player's still feel ghosts need nerf. The state of Terran vs zerg is horrible. Zerg imba

    • @harrymaxwell8489
      @harrymaxwell8489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Zerg got too good at defending drops. This turtle style the terran is forced in seems to be fading. Nothing really to change the meta, ghost counter like 80% of zerg army, mass ling bane is the only way

    • @uberculex
      @uberculex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@harrymaxwell8489 If they lose ghosts then they lose all late games against zerg. They have nothing that can compare to zerg late game units and are able to deal with zergling run/bys

    • @harrymaxwell8489
      @harrymaxwell8489 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@uberculex I 100% agree. Just it's impossible to change the meta, but I've seen the terran win by having the zerg run out of minerals/gas

    • @uberculex
      @uberculex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@harrymaxwell8489 If they don't have ghost, they can't defend with favorible trades against things like ultralisks and brood lords with viper support. The viper negates seige tanks, liberators, thors with energy that can be recharged on a spore crawler.

    • @lapphoRa
      @lapphoRa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's not zerg that's imba, its serral... also, if the race was OP it wouldn't be the least played race in the world by a largeeee margin lol.

  • @DanielDem87
    @DanielDem87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    finally someone uses infestors to easily counter ghosts, even worse for the terran if they get the EMP upgrade (which they sould never research vs Zerg)

  • @somedudemanguy
    @somedudemanguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know they skip most of the opening minutes in these highlight videos, but it's still insane to me how quickly Serral takes over entire maps. Even Maru can't turtle when he's down 3 bases to 7.

  • @sangh.m611
    @sangh.m611 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Neural parasite 1 ghost -> instant EMV the ghosts -> instant victory

  • @Crownest219
    @Crownest219 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those abduction makes me smile to the ears

  • @IWANT_TOBELIEVE
    @IWANT_TOBELIEVE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    YES UPLOADS ✅️

  • @rawoniongaming8100
    @rawoniongaming8100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it not worth it to use an scv at 11:20 to repair the hellions. Seeing them back at base i saw that raven was repaired but hellions went back out after still damaged. I wonder if the mine time was worth more then the repair time?

  • @robo0052
    @robo0052 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's like survival game :)

  • @leenverkade
    @leenverkade ปีที่แล้ว

    Serral makes Zerg look so broken...And thats 95% his insane skill ofcourse. But infestor burrow + spell casting feels a bit op.

  • @dzikiLOS
    @dzikiLOS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    does anyone know why are there gems in random locations on screen?

  • @Havok229x
    @Havok229x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bring back the Warhound unit for Terran. Might help them not be bottom tier all the time.

    • @avo616
      @avo616 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      💀🅱️

  • @earthbind83
    @earthbind83 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's what happens if you don't go CC first like in the current GSL group stage B, vs. both Reynor and DRG.

  • @CrimsonA1
    @CrimsonA1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would Maru have made a comeback if he sent one medvac full of units to just one of Serral's proxy bases?

    • @Вальдор
      @Вальдор 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, becouse queens and zergling movespeed 100kk

  • @jastorms712
    @jastorms712 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    los ataques de serral son brutales, literalmente no de dejaba estabilizar su 5ta base :o

  • @F4c2a
    @F4c2a 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Serral showed emotion? As a fellow Finnish person, I regret to inform you that he will be exiled.

  • @nitrousoxide1797
    @nitrousoxide1797 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hate how they cut half of the video out for TH-cam

    • @DFGdanger
      @DFGdanger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a highlights channel. Go look for the official VOD if you want to see the full thing.

  • @boreduser12
    @boreduser12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who are these 2 commentators? They are good.

  • @williampwild
    @williampwild 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "roaches bussin' open them walls"

  • @heybaeuwb8888
    @heybaeuwb8888 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like the struggle with the casting in this is real lol.

  • @pilandejericco2487
    @pilandejericco2487 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the way Serral engage off creep is just insane. Maru trying to go for the exhaust game doe not work against Serral lol

  • @youyoushin1873
    @youyoushin1873 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congratulation Serral

  • @awkwardcultism
    @awkwardcultism 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did you skip the first three and a half minutes of the match?

  • @alzhang8
    @alzhang8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    10 bases vs 4 bases, wow

  • @Frontline_view_kaiser
    @Frontline_view_kaiser 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The GOAT is back

  • @pedrorkpify
    @pedrorkpify 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Serral el mejor zerg de todos los tiempos

  • @timmysun1234
    @timmysun1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I found the first person really cool

  • @254zero
    @254zero 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Serral is insane

  • @ShailenSobhee
    @ShailenSobhee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ffs, can Maru please win a final?? For the Terrans out there..

    • @donhartfield
      @donhartfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I swear, everytime I see these, as awesome as Serral is, Maru just gets curb stomped. Time and time and time again...

    • @reftu7856
      @reftu7856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@donhartfield by ling bane infestor combo. this comp is like an auto win against Maru or any other terran players.

    • @elsuperjoe2006
      @elsuperjoe2006 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is not balance game.

  • @douglaswidodo7996
    @douglaswidodo7996 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn u should build defense systems against alien..

  • @rudybaran
    @rudybaran 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about the first game?

    • @sjbuttonsb
      @sjbuttonsb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Serral won the double elimination bracket so he gets to start the final with an extra win. Maru lost to Showtime in round 2 and then clawed his way back up the lower bracket.

    • @rudybaran
      @rudybaran 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sjbuttonsb oh, thx man!

  • @razvan5061
    @razvan5061 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Serral looking like jaedong in this 😉

  • @PK-vw3gd
    @PK-vw3gd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what's with this video starting in the middle of match?

  • @emeteriahernandezmedina5890
    @emeteriahernandezmedina5890 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate how good Is serral. Congratulations

  • @valueds
    @valueds 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was this GSL

  • @ArioDragon
    @ArioDragon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I feel like ling and banes should be nerfed. Too easy and effective.

    • @Tonius126
      @Tonius126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Ghost needs to be nerfed. Counters every lategame bio units with snipe and spellcaster with thier EMP.

    • @ArioDragon
      @ArioDragon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Tonius126 That too i guess.
      I just want to see more use of roaches, hydras, ultras etc. Not just ling+banes all day long.

    • @theoffbrandduo6756
      @theoffbrandduo6756 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It just has to do with what the players decide what build to lock themselves into and/or force the other player to lock into. Widow mines destroy that comp but it was hard to transition due to the pressure. Overall it’s just super high skill players that make the comp seem broken when it’s really not

    • @vincent930
      @vincent930 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really, there are too many counter units like widow mines and siege tanks. Zerg will have no chance winning games if they were nerfed

  • @nikkator
    @nikkator 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    does someone know why Serral surrenders in the 3rd match?

  • @tommythunder7498
    @tommythunder7498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If Maru can't win there is a HUGE problem ! 1 banelings are way too cheap (rinse and repeat this doesnt take skill and Serral is one or the most skilled player) !!! Terran need anti ground static defense to stop those runnys like peotoss and Zerg can do ! Flamming Betties and Auto Turrets (remove them from Raven and give those the healing mech disk ability from Nova!

  • @ruidasilvamartins
    @ruidasilvamartins 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Serral !!!

  • @Phi1618033
    @Phi1618033 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maru v Serral is like Federer v Nadal.

  • @TheMasterhomaster
    @TheMasterhomaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Serral is a SC2’s GOAT.

  • @thezzach
    @thezzach 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow 😮 That was just…wow 🫣

  • @alexanderbersie
    @alexanderbersie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God I would love a Serral video that is not just roach spam

  • @IWANT_TOBELIEVE
    @IWANT_TOBELIEVE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    WHERES THE VIDS

  • @DustinGhia
    @DustinGhia ปีที่แล้ว

    Hail Caesar Serral!!!! 💪💪💪

  • @mickeyromeo
    @mickeyromeo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    we have got a roach warren. huh? Don't you mean serral is making a roach warren? What are you in the game playing with him or something? Bad casting is bad.

  • @gaspault
    @gaspault 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ruthless.

  • @matheusazevedo3138
    @matheusazevedo3138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Serral is my favorite player, I’m glad to see him win

  • @wrinklebob7465
    @wrinklebob7465 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg... The amount of ads put onto this video is just baffling 😠😠😠

  • @liebe6997
    @liebe6997 ปีที่แล้ว

    game 4, thats what u talk about when u say "zerging" someone down!
    more grind than helms clam!

  • @hko2006
    @hko2006 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two titans clash

  • @LiveLoveLevelUp
    @LiveLoveLevelUp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    He makes the zerg race proud, such a destructive force, if one didn't know what a beast Maru was you'd think hes just an average player watching this. HOW?!

  • @swage8566
    @swage8566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    can terran even actually win this matchup without relying on a fuckup by the zerg? I swear everytime i see these games all the terrans are trading 50% more efficiently, winning defensive holds and even doing good drop damage and then zerg just remaxes in 30 seconds for the 100th time just to w key them again and again until terran runs out of units that can shoot.

    • @stillwatersrundeep001
      @stillwatersrundeep001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've said it before, when the zerg is halfway competent terran can't win

    • @WARGARM
      @WARGARM 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope brain-dead ling bang is too balanced

    • @meggot5831
      @meggot5831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Serral makes this matchup look easy, this playstyle is very inefficent and on a timer. Is totally reliant on holding forward bases

    • @Santisima_Trinidad
      @Santisima_Trinidad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, very much so.
      One of the more important things is early damage. The more drones you can kill early on the easier it is later, as the zerg just can't grow as fast whilst you build up to do duel in the mid game.
      The next item is mech. The ling bane style you usually see in these very A movey endgames is very bad versus thor hellion, with ghosts dueling spellcasters. Lings die to hellions, banes detonate on single thors and gain 0 value. The longer the terran stays on bio the better for zerg, as bio is matching the tech of the zerg whos on a higher economy, as opposed to besting it. Mech also has the added advantages of dealing well with zergs higher tech stuff (broods, vipers, ultras) and not requiring anywhere near as many medivacs, which are a big supply sink. Mech is susceptible to multi pronging, but whats worse, loosing a base you weren't defending very heavily, or loosing a base you were defending heavily.
      And the final item is, as it always will be, battlecruisers. Even with neural parasite, BCs force corrupters, stuff other than ling bane, and keep the zerg at home a bit to defend.
      I do personally think the ling bane style serral used to win in a lot of these games is a bit overpowered, but a good terran can certainly beat it.

    • @swage8566
      @swage8566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Santisima_Trinidad it feels like it’s a lot harder to succeed with the Thor hellion mech comp in the mid game tho it’s so slow that Zerg can just constantly harass with runbys and you can’t easily respond with cross map plays of your own that you can do with bio or something. Then with mass Thor hellion you’re so immobile that Zerg gets more map control anyways and can just keep throwing units at you while teching up while Terran have to deal with constant pressure to maintain their army supply and tech up. It feels like the matchup is entirely based on Zerg keeping the map pressure which while I’m sure is super difficult at this high level Zerg just had more options compared to terran. I’m kinda just talking by what I’ve seen, I don’t really play so this is just kinda how it feels seeing all these games

  • @СергейТомилов-б2х
    @СергейТомилов-б2х 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Серрал красавчик! Ты забрал у меня 4 рабов? НО забрал без уважения... за это я заберу у тебя игру.

  • @VArsovski10
    @VArsovski10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could see lots of Balance talks in the chat,
    Kinda agree, Terran should have the possibility to get higher gas units faster, maybe an upgrade for the MULE's to mine gas as well 🤔
    Pretty sure that kind of flexibility would allow Terran eek out more gas faster therefore not just rely on mass Marine with some Ghost transitions, but possibly more of a mech presence as well

  • @TheDuffman86
    @TheDuffman86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Terrain needs more late game options it's ridiculous terrain automatically loses whenever they get to late game

    • @Tonius126
      @Tonius126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ghost counters every lategame zerg. Emp counters spellcasters and snipe kills lategame zerg bio units. Ghost needs a nerf.

    • @smithiWerben
      @smithiWerben 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Tonius126 Ghost is the only thing giving terran somewhat of a chance in lategame and even that is barely enough, but sure, nerf the only good ting terrans have.

    • @Tonius126
      @Tonius126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@smithiWerben Then its not balance. Nerf ghost and buff somthing else then maybe BC. Ghost counters 80% of Zerg and now Serral are soley relying to ling and banes.

    • @uberculex
      @uberculex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tonius126 BC's will always be countered by viper or neural parasite from a perma cloaked caster. This is the reason why only the best non zerg can make tier 3 work at a high level. They need a buff to a unit that is cheaper and swarmable to counteract those two units dominating tier 3 by evaporating expensive units in a flash.

    • @Tonius126
      @Tonius126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@uberculex there is a tradeoff for everything, weakness and counters but that doesn't apply to ghost, they are just crazy OP. Ghost counters spellcasters with EMP and any Bio with snipe which is 80% of zergs! Just imagine protoss having a unit that counters 80% of Terran units? Nerf ghost, buff something else.