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- How much does it really cost dailuy driving a Maserati GranTurismo S MC shift? We talk to Joe about his honest cost of servicing, maintaining and running his 4.7 V8 over the last 2 years.
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Massive thank you to Joe and Harry for being so kind and letting me feature this lovely car.
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I passed my test in 1961 and set myself a goal of one day owning a Jaguar. 55 years later I achieved that goal. I still own a lovely 3.0 S type which, I'm not ashamed to say, is at the limit of what I can afford comfortably. And that is the secret; be ruled by your personal budget. Happy ownership, everyone!
I have a V8 s-type and it gets 25.2mpg with my driving style. It might be worth thinking about a V8 as I suspect your fuel mpg won't be much better and the V8's are cheap as chips now.
Appreciate the lesson in common sense
Thats how u maintain and use your pride and joy. Fair play to this guy
I know right! Legend 🙌😊
Have my GranTurismo S for 5 years now and still love it when I start the engine and look at it.
Awesome!’ 🙌 How much roughly per year on servicing and maintenance?
@@dadcars It is exactly the same car, model, model year as the one in the video. bought it with 55,000 miles on it when I bought it and has 83,000 miles on it now. First year had about 6k pounds on servicing and maintenance on it and the years afterward on average 2k on cost (tyres, services etc). Just don't buy this car if you don't have the money to take good care of it. I still like every minute I drive it, did road trips all over Europe. First year from Amsterdam to Spain, year after to the factory in Italy, year after Germany / Austria, last year Spain and Portugal and this year a roadtrip from Amsterdam to Palermo and back through the whole of Italy.. Memories for life!
The man maths is hilarious! That Maserati is a gobsmackingly beautiful car, I swear I'm nursing a semi looking at that (a Jeremy Clarkson phrase).
Serious man maths 😅🙌
My 2014 GTS is a daily driver about 800-1000 miles a month. I do the maintenance myself, is a easy car to work on. Front bushings, tie rods, alignment, new front tires, new rotor / pads front and rear, engine mounts, new battery and upgraded headunit. Mostly was deferred maintenance from previous owner. If DIY is an option its a tolerable cost, if you need the dealer forget about it. Dealer cost for maintenance, brake and suspension work is absurd. Its an amazing daily driver, they behave better when you put miles on them. Love my GTS.
Yep, very easy to rack up £1000's if relying on garages/specialists for every job/service.
Fancy doing work on mine? 😅
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Have a very similar experience with a 2010 Granturismo. 22k miles, one major service, new battery, parking sensor replacement, boot lid wiring fixed, front brake pads (they're reassuringly expensive)... which over two years was £4k... but use the car every day and absolutely love it. We have also completed one trip to Normandy (1,000 miles), and one trip to Lake Como (1,750 miles), and that's where the car is in its element. Someone asked me whether I'd worked out the cost of fuel, and at last count, it was approx. £7k. People should know paying £30k for a £100k car, isn't going to be the same as running a new £30k car, and if you're ok with that, then you'll love ownership.
I own the same car - just 2 years younger. I've owned it just over a year and had a fraction of the costs compared to Joe. I don't have the MC Shift so no issues re clutch changes and my engine comes with the alteration to avoid the variator issues. I've had to change one of the drop links on the front ant-roll bar (£86), a parking sensor (£175 OEM - can get it cheaper) and the front parking sensor loom and mounts (someone repaired a sensor in the past, bodged it and allowed water ingress causing corrosion - £98). Also had a split in the coolant expansion tank (£50) - plus £235 for the work to change everything. Someone fitted a rear break pad badly which damaged the pad and the disk so I replaced both rear disks, pads and handbrake shoes - total cost £644 plus another £234 to fit. But this wouldn't have been required if the pad had been fitted correctly. There was also a major service of which I did a lot myself - very easy car to work on with little experience. Some prices are eye watering but so many parts are shared with Alfa Romeo (wing mirrors, key, etc.) and other strange options like Skoda if you don't want an OEM parking sensor. Without wanting to jinx things, I'm finding the owning and running costs much lower than expected. As you say - budget £2k a year and you'll be laughing. And the car is a monster. Saw a McLaren drive past over the weekend and my first though was "doesn't sounds as good as my Maser". So much fun and so many good feelings for not a lot of money!
The chap loves it
The memories with his son are priceless
What’s the point of going to work if not to enjoy it
I fully endorse this video as an Aston Martin owner😂😂
My man! You get it 👌
Fantastic attitude! Getting yourself a really nice car, take good care of it - and use it!! That is the way it should be! Perfect! Maserati GTs are great cars, very elegant, great sound! A classic! I have the same concept with two Maserati 3200 and one Quattroporte 5. I love them all - enjoy every moment, despite a couple of flaws. Maseratis are a pleasure to drive! Nobody can deny that!
🙌 I did nearly 200 miles in my gransport today 👌 wonderful
Ben, the channel is growing well and content spot on. I’ve owned a db9 for 6 years now and enjoyed the content from the start. Always wanted one of these but hate the way the front looks (like one of those deep sea fish) so avoided. Keep going forward and see if you can get some sponsorship too. All the best! Steve
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What a fantastic video! really enjoyed this, you two get on so well on screen - well done!
I love Joe 😅 he’s a great sport for going on camera for this. We’ve got a GS Vs GT video coming soon 👌
This guys shorts are epic, cheers Ben. Love from United States
Lol 😂 check out the shorts on my grancabrio review 🙈 😂
Top man! This is how cars like this should be owned.
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I've had a 2012 Grand Cabrio 4.7 with ZF box for about 6 months here in New Zealand. Yeah, deferred maintenance has not been cheap but to be fair, I was aware of several issues with it from the get go, and other things have mostly been preventative stuff I didnt have to do. It's cost me about NZ$12000 (£5800) in servicing/repairs to date. It really is the only car I've ever purchased entirely with my heart rather than my head and even driving it back from the shop last week after a big bill, my smile returned within 5 minutes of starting it (Alternator failed, and OEM Denso alternators imported from the UK aren't cheap). Yes, it's expensive to maintain and service but it's a passion - although as with anything, it pays to remember when to quit. I have practical cars to get around town so keep it as a summer touring car. Been on three good trips in it to date. Touring (albeit at our silly 100km/h open road limit) gets a surprising 14.5L/100km, or 19.5 (UK)MPG. That is, until you hit the "loud" button.
How many miles are on yours? I have a 2015 GTS shipping in right now, and if I have to pay $6,000 in the first 6 months, I'm screwed.
Love how Ben stays true to his Dadcar theme with the exclusive, dad-only, jean shorts! Keep bringing it, baby!
Thanks for this video. I've got a 2011 coupé S and cabriolet S and they have been great so far.
I purchased my 2011 Granturismo S MC-shift over 18 months ago, it's not a daily driver as I work in london, however I have done over 4500 miles in it, inlcuding 2400 miles in August around the south of France (Alps), popped into Italy and Switzerland but it does get sorned after it's MOT in october. So far the GTS has cost me £2100, which was a big service at Sports Italia, inc a few odds and sods eg exhaust clamps, header tank and I opted to get this done early due to my European road trip. Last MOT a few weeks ago advisory for rear tyres !! oops, thats the hairpins in the Alps. My MPG from that trip ave by proper calculations using Fuelly, was 19mpg, best day was 26mpg, worst day was 12 mpg !! But fun was had, lots of fun.
Next year the spend will be a lot higher as it needs front subframe loooking at, and poss front discs ! But driving these, seeing the reaction of people enjoying hearing and seeing it makes it all worth while, I felt like a movie star driving in Monaco, people taking photo's & filming it. It's one special motor, that I am very privileged to own and enjoy. !! Would I recommend one.. hell yes !
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Hi Ben hope your doing good.
That was an informative video on the cost breakdown of owning one.
I loved the video.
Stay safe and take care.
Thanks Frank 🤙
@@dadcars Your welcome Ben.
Great video ; you’ve made me feel much better the running costs of my Bentley Arnage
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Great video and lovely car!
We had a Quattroporte when we had our first child and absolutely loved it. We did about 12k a year as it was the only family car - it was even great in the snow! Amazingly it averaged about 25mpg (longer ratios with the ZF box maybe?) maintenance was a bit heavy needing new dampers and ultimately the cam variators killed it.
But even so - per month it averaged out at probably less than what you’d lease a new soft roadster for…
You can’t own any of these cars on a limited budget but this does make my R230 SL500 look like a cheap runaround lol 😆 …. Seriously though, as the chaps have said, this is still an achingly beautiful car and even though the running costs may seem high, the overall cost to the owner are still way way less than buying an equivalent car with either a six figure capital cost or a monthly cost in four figures. When you factor in the depreciation on a newer car then this sort of older car makes absolute financial sense.
Yep! I always recommend buying the most exciting car outright that you can comfortably afford to run 🙌
@@dadcars exactly, my R230 SL500 with full history, all the extras I wanted with that beautiful V8 cost me just under £10k (ridiculously cheap!) which thankfully I could happily buy cash. I put aside a few grand as a repairs fund and top it up each month and I’ve now had coming up to 3yrs of driving a beautiful head turning car with no major issues just routine/preventative maintenance. All for the price of a secondhand hatchback or a years depreciation on a more expensive car, what’s not to like? 😊
I think the same, I live in Dagenham and its Ford land, but I remember going to auction buying an ex fleet bmw, when Joe Public could go, for the price of a late Ford fiesta.
Well this is a great video, very informative! This is what people really want to see 🙂
I think being open about the realty of running these cars properly is really helpful, awesome of Joe to be willing to go on camera and share all this too 😊🙌
Driven not hidden is the best attitude towards any sports car ownership, those people who erroneously purchase sports cars only to park it up under the delusion (garage Queen) that it is an investment will wake up, smell the coffee and count their losses. This behaviour is prevalent amongst Porsches owners but not exclusive to Porsche owners. It is a foolish way to waste money by acquiring a liability and depreciating assets then believing it to be an investment, this goss error is fuel by social media. Nice content as always Dadcar.
Yeah I’m all about buying the car you really want and using it to make memories, that’s the only time it’s worth the money 🙌
I have a 2011, and all I've spent on it since I got it in June is on a voluntary paint fix with some respray, couple of new tyres, and fixing some small electrical bits and bobs. But then again I haven't driven it 22,000 miles. 😂
I absolutely love my GranTurismo S. It's in the garage at the moment having a heated seat switch and a parking sensor replaced. But, you know, that's all part and parcel. The joy you get from a car that looks and sounds this special makes that a price worth paying for me personally.
Theres so much luck involved with cars and i had one of these having gone through:
Alfa GTV 3.0 V6 - zero issues whatsoever until i hit black ice and wrote a minter off but quite pricey to run and 99% garages hate old Alfas
2x Nissan 350Z - zero issues, bomb proof engineered, a big driving upg over the above and not really any dearer to run
2005 BMW M5 V10 - bought an 80k miler with little reading up and ran for 2 yrs upto 90k with zero issues. No rod bearing, vanos or SMG issues despite not knowing of them at point of purchase... and that only happened on impulse as id gone to try a E46 M3 and didnt gel with it but this lovely silverstone blue M5 just sat there whispering to me. Its only downsides were it truly truly drank oil and petrol for fun and cost alot more to run in those respects than the 350Z but again it was a huge upgrade over the 350Z and it remains the "best" car ive ever owned in soooo many respects if not QUITE being my favourite.....
2009 Maserati GT-S 4.7 - just about my favourite car even if the above drove better and was notably quicker, better steering, better comfort, better audio system etc etc. The noise, the looks (bianco pearl with blue leather/alcantara interior to match the MC12 scheme) and the feel good factor just made me fall in LOVE. The sense of good taste was a real thing... where people were at best disinterested and at worst sneered at me for being a BMW owner even if it was the M5, the respect for being a Maser owner was a totally different experience. And heres why my luck came in..... in 2yrs ownership it remains the cheapest car ive ran out of all the above over a 2yr period owing to the 2yr servicing and it being well sorted at the point i bought it. 3000 miles was not alot of use but it gave me no real issues. To think what this chaps spent during the same period of time makes me eternally grateful for my experience. I sold mine for close to what i paid as well and it percentage wise retained the most value of any car ive owned too.
Finally, after all of the above i moved on the Maser (partly out of knowing my luck wouldnt last forever) for a last off the line BMW M6 V10 as a "final hurrah" project but it turned out to be a lemon with multiple issues which left a sour taste alone and the dealer i bought from was a pain to deal with in returning it which made the whole thing a horrid experience. At this point my enthusiasm died and my circumstances changed so i bought what i thought would be by far my cheapest to run car for nr 20 yrs while mulling over potential future ownership possibilities, an Alfa Brera 2.4JTD with 80k on the clock. Freshly resprayed and seemingly a decent example i looked forward to my lowest running costs in years BUT..... within the first year the gearbox exploded on the M1 requiring full rebuild with clutch n flywheel. Soon after the power steering rack, pump and pipework all went due to a leak. I had paid £5k for the car and spent £5k repairing stuff in the first 2 yrs. In 2 yrs with the Maser i spent £1500 but then its gearbox and steering systems didnt implode lol. Fast forward and the Brera remains with me purely out of my own determination to get value out of the spend but numerous issues abound.... turbo boost pressure drops, exhaust rear boxes corroded, front and rear subframes corroded, lower engine mount all but disintegrated, drivers seatbelt wont always retract, passnger window gets stuck open. This far cheaper to buy and fill up vehicle is basically making up for many years of extreme luck with some seemingly much more expensive to run, highly strung and exotic stuff and smashing my wallet every 2000 miles like ive never experienced before.
Like i said LUCK of the draw with cars is something even when you try to minimise the chances of it happening! Thx for reading btw!l
It is a beautiful car and obviously gives the owner massive pleasure, but those costs are horrific, most 'normal' people just wouldn't be able to afford or justify that. I get massive pleasure out of my car, it's a 2010 Mazda MX-5 Sport Tech with power retractable hardtop. It has 83,000 miles on the clock and since I bought it 3 and a half years ago it has cost me less than £750, more than half of which is items I chose to buy to upgrade it, the rest is servicing, MOT and one repair. The only issue I have ever had is the front right brake caliper seized due to the car having been parked up for a long time before I bought it, this cost me £35 to replace. It has not depreciated at all since purchase. No, it's not a Maserati, not it's not a supercar, but I doubt I would have had more fun in anything else! I previously had a Honda S2000, which also cost me nothing and I made a profit on the sale of that car, so my motoring costs are pretty minimal.
Mx5s are great cars, I’ve owned 3 of them (including a sport tech with the diff and the bilsteins), but that was years ago and now I’m fortunate to own a Porsche Boxster, a TVR, and an Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio. My last service on the Alfa cost more than the combined purchase price 2 of my MX5’s. My overall point is that I’ve been in your position, and I’ve been in his position, and I’d take his position every day. The MX5 is a great car for the money, but it’s rubbish compared to anything from a Boxster upwards. It’s also a useless 2 seater roadster for being a “Dad car” which is why many people, including myself, are watching this video/channel. I can only recommend that you at least drive some cars outside of your MX5 to see why other cars are better, and the MX5 is just good for the very cheap money it is.
I am so pleased he uses it… ❤ and drives an individual’s car, not another SUV..
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Great video. I was shocked to see what has happened with Sports Italia since you recorded this. Landlord has treated then like sh!t and business has had to go to the wall. First thing I was planning to do with GC I am look8ng at was to take it to them for a full check and probable under seal….
I owned one for two years cost me about 2k service, parking sensor and new HDU for the infotainment system which is common. I did myself and was easy with the help of an expert. In fairness it wasn’t used much and maybe I was lucky 👍👍 Great channel Ben also ❤
As an owner of a Maserati GranSport since 2007 - if you look at the cost of the 2 clutches, all the performance modifications, maintenance, tires, carbon fiber bits….yes, it’s VERY expensive…BUT it’s not expensive if you plan on keeping the car for the rest of YOUR life….Maserati’s are different…Italian cars in general are just in a league of their own. Yes, I’ve spent over $20k in clutches, performance modifications, maintenance and everything else…but is this really all that bad??? NO NO sir not…for people who spend $800-1000 a month on a new car or lease every couple of years over the course off their life…it’s not expensive at all and I can guarantee, those new cars will NOT put a smile on your face like a real Maserati does….I’m talking about GranSports, Quattroportes, and Granturismos…not the Ghibli or an SUV. You can’t buy a Maserati and think it’s going to be cheap….people
buy these all beat to hell and abused and then OH…it’s unreliable, Maserati’s suck…blah blah blah….TH-camrs buy these, they buy them cheap…they bash the brand and then onto the next. Also, driving these cars at high speed 150/160/170/180/190…is no problem…these are GT cars. If you want perfection…buy a German car. I’de love to see a video done by a real owner who has owned one of these for 16-17 years…to give a real perspective. These cars are great. I also have a 1989 and 1997 Bentley Turbo R…nothing else compares to those either and yet all these TH-camrs bash it because THEY can’t afford the maintenance. The secret to owning a Maserati is to buy all the parts over time and in advance…then, it’s actually quite affordable. The brand is great…it’s the cheap owners who give the brand a bad name.
Did you see this as a bashing video? Did you watch the whole thing? I love Maseratis 🤷♂️
Yes sir, I sure did…and absolutely none of this was directed at you. You make fantastic videos. Thank you for sharing.
@@ChicagoItalian ah no worries 😊 yeah the owners who defer maintenance and hide the issues for the new owner hurt these cars. Same with certain Astons. I have so much more maser content coming, I love these cars 🙌
Looking forward to it my friend. I hope you and your family are well.
Love what you said bro I was just telling my dad I think a Maserati is a car to keep not sell and I think now he’s thinking on it he has a grand turismo red interior convertible and man I’m so in love with it driving is like a dream and I really hope to have this car for generations hopefully he passes it down to me. But yes I’m tired of all the hate on the Maseratis but I mean I’ve noticed it’s mainly on the ghibli not the grand some are on the quattroportes but yeah I feel like ppl try and compare things to much and miss out oj other aspects I really feel like Maserati is a unique car as a whole I’d rather it over a Ferrari personally
I don’t have a Granturismo but it is an achingly beautiful car. I have a 2006 GranSport and have owned it for around 8 months and it came with full dealer service history from new. As soon as I got it I had a full service done and had the radiator replaced (A$4,500) and replaced all 4 tyres with Michelin PS4S (A$1,800). The car is absolutely amazing and I love it. Next on the list to consider will be secondary cat delete pipes and maybe the Formula Dynamics Drive By Wire module. Have done around 2,000kms so far and has been an absolute delight. Maintenance on these cars has to be kept up. It’s kinda like the Busso powered Alfa’s…like the 147 GTA. The cars themselves weren’t that expensive to buy in the used car market so people didn’t want to spend the money to maintain them properly so a lot of them needed extensive catch up work. These cars are definitely a case of buying the best one you can find! I intend to keep mine for a very long time and will not be cutting corners on anything!
Hi Alfa_davo - perfect - welcome to the club…see, this is what I am talking about…putting money into it and maintaining the car…not bashing it because of what you had to put into it already. PEOPLE - it’s an Italian car…please research and understand what you are getting into.
I recently got my Gransport 👌 I did not like the DBW mod, I paid to have it removed. It’s sat in my boot now 😅
Definitely keen for that video of the two cars out together!
It’s filmed! Coming soon 🤙
Thanks really appreciate the video what an amazing car and a down to earth owner
Oh wow thanks Chris!!! 🙌😊 Joe is lovely 🤙
Love the GranTurismo. The Ferrari Engine sounds so lovely, and the car is just so beautiful. It seems timeless.
Great video and super helpful.
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Thanks for this video. Great info. I just spent $4,300 on my 2012 GTS with the 4.7 L last week. (Shut out to Exotic Specialty Services in Huntington Beach who also service my McLaren 570.) . I've had my Maserati 2 and half years and until last month I only spent $1,200 on A/C repairs and $350 on oil changes. But last month I had brake work done, a vacuum leak fixed, really bad valve cover leak addressed with new cam solenoids, replaced water pump belt and an electrical ground issue corrected. That's about $3K a year but I really should have NO issues after now. I've put 4K on it. (I have 12 cars and work from home and I still drive as much as I can. ) I'm fine with that amount per year. If I had spent £10K a year, I would have been really disappointed. I also spent $30K to purchase this beauty. Thanks for being so transparent.
Wow sounds like quite the collection 👌
I own a 2016 MC and this car is absolutely intoxicating. I don’t daily drive it but as soon as I can every weekend I take it out with my family and we go for a ride. Kids love it too.
I did some upgrades major one was the infotainment and the AC control unit, spacers, but no way I will keep track of the cost of ownership. It’s my toy it’s my joy and I will enjoy
I have had a 2013 face lift Sport with the F1 box since April. I have done 2.5k miles in it and it has cost £5.5k - £3k for a major service, header tank, acceleration sensor, broken brake caliper nipples, clutch solenoid, alignment, wheels refurbished and new tyres. I also bought the parts needed for a clutch job as it will need it at some point as well as front discs and pads all round. So far the car has been utterly reliable. Of course I have now jinxed her.
It’s a very simple car to maintain as it is just the right mix of old and new tech. I am also lucky that I have access to a fully equipped workshop with a two-post lift and I love working on classics such as my 928 GTS 5-spd or my 996 GT3 Club Sport. Thus the Maserati doesn’t scare me. As a matter of fact, it is actually quite well engineered.
One thing that I don’t agree with in your video - these cars were designed to be driven - a lot! If you look at their LHD equivalents in Europe - most 2010 GTSs would be on 70,80 even a 100k miles plus. It’s very rare to see relative garage queens like we get here in the U.K. on 20k miles. The more you drive them, the more reliable they are.
Last but not least - a German car can present a big bill too. My X5M needed a brand new engine from BMW to the tune of £30k at 80k miles - I had owned it for 40k and it has 16 service stamps with BMW….
Keep up the good work…
Buddy of mine has exact same model. No issues beyond normal maintenance. He loves the Ferrari engine.
I have a Granturismo S as well, although mines the ZF Auto. I think what you say about £3-4K a year is probably about right. I’ve done 8k miles so far, had the car around a year, and that is roughly what I’ve spent.
Personally, I think the Maserati GT is probably one of the best cars you can buy for smiles per gallon.
Still worth every penny - to drive this car , mines gone now to a new owner - how I miss it
🙌 How much roughly per year did it cost in your experience?
I've just purchased a 2012 maserati granturismo S, auto, for less than 30k. 10 liters of good oil is 100 quid. Maserati oil filter 80 quid. Independent garage labour 200 quid or less, so that's a service for under 500. Some independent will do a minor full service for 600-700. Can't count tires and fuel for running costs. I get 17-20mpg. Cars brilliant, you don't have to pay main dealer prices if you know where to go. Excluding tyres and fuel. Can be less than a grand a year. Mines identical colour inside and out ! Full auto box , not f1 clutch. Lots of sites for parts like scudaria parts and euro car spares. Main dealer will rinse you for almost 3 car for a major service. 8 spark plugs at ten quid each, most around 1200 major service.
Sounds like a great car for a great price, I’d set aside an extra £1k per year for unforeseen things that crop up as well though and keep it on trickle charge when not in frequent use 🙌
@@dadcars will do. Yeah I make sure I don't leave it sitting for more than a few days. I work from home so i am lucky that I only do around 5000 miles a year. I think Gran Turismo prices going up , especially for 4..7 models. It's fine 50,000 miles. I've unplugged the exhaust valves, neighbours know when I'm leaving! Sounds unbelievable. Let it warm up for ten mins then sport mode. Plan to keep it a year or two then sell it. Say I've had one !
If it's worth it to you, it's worth it! No question. Great video Ben 👌
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Had a 2013 GranTurismo S in Blu Mediterraneo. Bought it at 3years old and 9kmiles and sold it at 6years old with 18k miles.
Apart from standard servicing nothing ever went wrong. It never sprung any suprises and was looked after by CARRS Ferrari Maserati main dealer who were excellent and never tried to rip us off.
Happy memories of a great GT car that we took over to Europe
You know they are good cars when "Chrisfixit" buys his dad one ! Great video thanks 😊
Dad had a wealthy friend in the mid seventies, black 930 Turbo, unfeasibly big arches and wheels, picnic table on the boot……. as a 12 year old it was mesmerising…..
Spool forwards, best mates dad bought himself a Guards red 911SC, Fuchs wheels, whale tail, turbo bodied, hooning around Essex then moving to terrorise St Austell in Cornwall…….
A business partner had a bronze 924 which I used to belt around Dagenham when courting in…..
Another good friend has, and had 924, 944 and numerous 911’s ……. still owning a LHD air cooled C4……..
Anyhow…… I’m 60 this year, they’re 60 this year…….. I had to.
So, a 2001 (996) Turbo Coupe tiptronic sits in the garage…….. Silver with Kerscher (Fuchs) wheels………at a squeeze, myself, my wife, my 17 and 15 yr olds and the dog can fit…….. but more importantly, just me and my memories in a wave of nostalgia……. As for the choice of gearbox……. when you stand on it, you would be advised to have two hands on the wheel as the experience is deeply religious….. 😮 🙂🇬🇧
Don’t wait…….. buy your dream before you’re too old or they ban them……..🏁
Our Ghibli S has been amazing. 30k miles, two services, one new suspension part, six tyres. Awesome performance and cheap to run. Each service was £850.
That’s reassuring to hear 🙌 what year is it?
Beautiful car, I’ve got the 2011 s Gransturismo, had mine for nearly 4 years, no big bills for me
Do you have the automatic 4.2?
I love my Maserati and the driving experience is well worth the cost. However I have never had any major issues with mine. Standard maintenance cost is about the same as my last Mercedes.
How many miles ?
And what model
@@ossoplu1463 I have had a Granturismo but currently have a quattroporte
@@ossoplu1463 my Quattroporte has 65k and the Granturismo had about 85k
@@kevinhindman9943 hows the quattroporte? i dont hear much about those and what made you get rid of the gt its really a one in a life time car i feel like amazing sound handling interior i can go on and on and just unique in general
Well I am on the same 😂 annual running cost of my GTS exceeds total value of my wife's car. But there is obviously a another view. A part that of that cost is to keep it running but the second comes to our common hobby :-). Its clear that our cars are the girlfriends that or wifes somehow tollerate
Lol that’s a funny way of looking at it 😂 my wife is supportive as I use them a lot with the little ones 🥰
Ghibli owner here. This video is the last piece of information and confirmation needed for me to put my dream to bed and end the notion that one day I will own a GT. RIP my dream car.
Edit: my Ghibli... costs after year 1... £100 for a new battery. Got up to 50mpg on the way to Holland a couple times.
Great interview
Sorry about the expenses that you incurred but you may want to consider a Tesla model S. They are now sub $80,000 ((USD)) and only maintenance I've had on mine was to add the windshield wiper fluid. You might like the idea that it can travel, 0 to 60 and 3.1 seconds.
I used to really want one of these... After watching this though “used to” are the key words. What a money pit.
The smile on your kids face is PRICELESS !
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Hi, great video and content as always. I opted for an extra warranty to cover for break downs, have you considered it and would it have covered part of the costs?
It’s never broken down on him, think he’s just always wanted to keep it tip top and running at its best for all the use and trips 👌
I just bought a Maserati GT too. Very very cheap with a few issues. £700 later and it has an MOT. I am doing all the work myself and this means that you cut costs by about 2/3. Add in looking around for bits and having time to check the root cause of an issue can get costs down to a 1/4. For example I had the dreaded rear ball joints highlighted on last MOT - £2k for new arms? Nope it was actually the tie rods at £550 that made it look like the ball joints were bad. now it has no advisories on MOT for that. Service pack will cost me about £500 including gearbox and diff, otherwise normally it will be £250 or so. Mine also returned 25mpg on the way home, since on short journeys it has been about 14mpg, however I replaced the battery at a cost of £130 for a Bosch S5 and the modules are still adjusting and the average reflects very short journeys to MOT and a fair bit of idling and cold starts. Insurance is £280… almost same as my Volvo! Although that includes a big excess. So they are expensive, but depending on how dirty you want to get, they do not need to be horrendously expensive, just shockingly expensive! Oh and boy calls it his Maserati too - great for school run.
Awesome! Yeah this is the way to do it if you can 🤙 welcome to the Daderati club 😎
Don’t drive a Maserati or large Alfa Romeo on a budget. Ask me how I Know 😂 Still, they’re worth every single penny. Amazing cars ❤
Yeah and it’s those who try to run them on a budget that pass issues on to future owners 🥲
Problem is that he bought a 2009, and a sports shift. Should have bought a 2011 and onward without the known variator problems. Also a Sports Shift model is always going to be more expensive to run than the ZF. I have owned several Granturismos and they have been solid cars. There are not supposed to be cheap to run. You will only be disappointed if you try to run this car on a budget unless you can work on the car yourself. Congrats on using it so much!!
Doesn't really make sense that they are not supposed to be cheap to run. Clearly the poor engineering, quality of parts and unnecessarily rip off prices contribute to the expense of owning one of these.
Another great video, very informative. The key to owning such cars is, let your heart lead you not your head...however, know when to bail out.
Also, a guy owned one at my previous job. Whenever I saw him pulling into the car park after I had parked, i always waited to hear the sweet sweet v8 before i headed to the office.🙈
It’s such an incredible and unmistakable sound, whoever designed the exhaust system is a genius 🙌
In 1992 a friend of mine and me were often walking down the streets, passing a big hotel of a brand, I won't mention here. He said, his older 3 brothers had the idea of renting a big Mercedes, just for driving into the drive-through of this hotel and make fun of it. It was a funny idea of a bunch of kids.
30 years later, I own a Mercedes S-Class V222, and I was cruising around with 2 friends, telling them this old story. After 1 second of thinking, I came to the conclusion to make this funny idea from 30 years ago happen, so we drove to that hotel and drove through the drive-through, which was fun, because there is also a club in that hotel and a lot of people were standing there, waiting to get in. We were like VIPs showing up.
I think a lot of people don’t appreciate how much it costs to keep a car in tip top condition. I just checked my spreadsheet of how much I’ve spent on my humble Focus ST225 and if you take off the initial £7K purchase price 7 years ago I’ve spent at least £15.5K, which equates to around £2k each year with all the mods I’ve done to the car over the years, so pretty much on point with how much to expect setting aside each year to look after something fun and modify it.
Awesome! Thank you! Perhaps I should pass this on to Joe 😂🙌 thanks for sharing your ownership costs! I think a lot of people try to forget the accumulative amounts as well 🫠
@@dadcars I have a theory why some popular cars end up suddenly tanking in price before they start to creep up. When I picked up my ST 7 years ago the average price was around 6-7K for a good one, but then a couple years on the prices tanked to as low as 2-3K for them. From what I saw in the owners clubs was people who could afford to buy them suddenly ran out of money to run them when they realised they are thirsty and have their fair share of faults of just wear and tear for the age, like bushes, wheel bearings and engines without the block mod cracking their liners. This then meant these owners getting rid for cheap and generally tanking the market price for them. Now I’ve recently seen the average price creeping back up to the 3-4K mark as I think the rough and rubbish ones are getting broken for parts and the nicer ones are showing up and exchanging hands on the sales threads.
@@A2KLAU yep you’re right it’s the same for many performance cars 🤙
That's right. Owning a car besides total bangers will always cost an arm and a leg.
For example, simply speaking, if you take the price of your car and divide it by miles driven, or expected to be driven to end of life, that cost /mile isn't going to be nice to look at. A 30k car that covers 200k miles is at 15p/mile. Before everything else.
Leases for new cars at 3-4-500/month with 8k annual allowances works out to 60p/mile.
I do 3k miles per year in my 2013 Granturismo Sport. First year maintenance cost was £3.6k. Second year was £4.2k, although £2k was new brake discs. So your figure of 3-4k per year is pretty realistic. Like Joe, the money I've spent is for general maintenance to keep it in tip top condition. These are not "cheap" cars to maintain. But it's a occasion to drive them unlike the mass produced German equivalents, which are great cars, but are just not special enough in my opinion. I've not regretted buying mine and cant think of another car that can replicate the same feeling.
Awesome 🙌 yeah 3-4k maintaining it properly seems to be a good guide. I’m sure you’ll have cheaper years occasionally
@@dadcars prior to buying it, I budgeted £3k per year, so I'm comfortable paying it, as I knew what I was getting myself into. However, touch wood the car has been very reliable despite the reputation Maserati have to the general public. Love the content btw, and I wish you all the success in the future now you've gone full time on YT 💪
@@simonsays929 thanks Simon 🤙
Wow, that dealer needs a shoutout thats crazy good service to let the customer take it to a local garage and pay £6k of work on a cheaper sports car.
I am the owner of two Maserati QP, a 2005 with 120k km and a 2007 with 90k km and buying them is the best decision I ever made in buying a car. Like your guest..the satisfaction you get driving these cars is worth every penny you put into them.. proper maintenance is a key factor for the reliability and longevity of these supercars. I have put 20 k on the 2007 in the last 2 years and is my daily driver... I had to change the F1 pump at the dealer and regular service at a cost of about 10,000 pounds for the last 2 year.. the F1 pump alone was about 6,000 at 70 k km. For the 2005, i had to do major suspension overhaul, change clutch, engine gaskets, injectorsand some body repairs..windows etc and i spent around 20k pounds so the car cost me a total of say 25k but the condition is like new now...What car can you buy for 25 k pounds nowdays? Definetely not maserati class car you will need at least double..If you lease or rent a similar car I am sure it will cost you about 1000 pounds a month...which is money you spend not owning the car... so put that into perspective, the cost of properly maintaining the car plus the joy you get driving it is very cheap.. by the way I bought both cars for 3,000 pounds each.
Interesting insight. Never owned one, on face value, it seems disproportionately high running costs, once u factor in depreciation also.
Must have a well paid job though, if u divide all those costs plus deprec/tax/ins each month of bottom line lol.
Id be interested to see an older Maserati on channel, something like the late 80s saloons with the v6 twin turbo, dont recall the model number.
It's worked £1/mile not including fuel and depreciation for this guy. That's mental!
Do you live in the Silverdale Road/Loddon area of Earley, Reading? That Close looks familiar and I haven't lived in the area for over 20 years
I completely understand the spend, well worth every penny spent 👌 smiles for miles 💪💪💪
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Having just watched James's video on the maintenance cost of the Maserati I will be interested should you do a cost review in 12 months time of your own expenditure.
The memories i created with mine will last my lifetime. The bills have faded from memory. Wonderful cars.
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Truth is itll always be above average maintenance, itll have more expensive parts and labor than not just japanese cars but also bmw or benz but if you buy a 2013 especially that wasnt neglected itll be a very solid car that can basically run on basic maintenance, most of which you can do on your own easily
British petrol heads - some of the best. He isn't even worried about spending that (as long as his wife doesn't know) - just as long as it can get across Normandy in a rapid manner once a year.
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Just paid off my Honda. Have always thought these were gorgeous. Thanks for reminding me not to do something stupid.
it’s all about what you can comfortably afford IMO as stretching can make owning any car a horrible experience
Would love a Maserati GT. But I get my V8 fix from a 2012 E500 4.7TT Cab. Average 26mpg on the 10K miles I've done. Seen as high as 33mpg. And 2K a year really does cover it all.
I have been lucky enough to have owned different Ferraris , Porche 11s and a Maserati shamal, all have been more expensive and trouble to maintain. The best car all round I have ever kept is my Maserati 4.200 from 2004 with all the upgrades. Luxury leather every where, dry sump, Ferrari 430 cross plane and great looks, it's been the best and cheapest to maintain than all the others and it has class. Apparently, according to my daughter have severe attention deficit disorder, which means I get fed up with things quickly if they are not exceptional, I never feel this way with the Maserati and it's a keeper.
I’m very much enjoying my gransport 👌 more content coming soon on it 😊
Always loved those wheels.
I love the way he is laughing at the money spent...Lovely looking car though...
You got to laugh sometimes 😅
I could probably dig out what I’ve spent over 10 years on the 3200.. not sure it’s a good idea, I did it a couple of years ago, didn’t think I’d need to do it again, not sure it’s healthy, but it wasn’t as bad as many people might think!
Maybe a similar video on yours would be good to balance things out Ian 😅
@@dadcarsI’ll have to fish the documents out, but best to have it working!
In 2 years, he's spent more on that car, post-purchase, than I have in 30 years of buying and maintaining a few Toyotas - yes, including purchase prices.
The service garage mentioned is far from being the "go to" place. Maybe by some because they charge a lower labour rate perhaps. Within a short distance you have either Emblem & AV Engineering and either would be my preference. Both have had exemplary reputations over a much longer period.
I have a 2013 convertible that I bought new and I have a 2017 coop. Both are dealer serviced and I have had no trouble! The scheduled maintenance is expensive but maybe I have prevented issues. These cars do chew up tires quickly but that is really my only complaint.
I thought running my Aston Rapide was expensive but jeez.
Once a Maserati, always a Maserati. My dad had Maseratis ( 4 Porte snd Mexico) I have a ghibli
I bought my 2012 granturismo s mc shift in July and apart from tyres which I knew about all I have done is put fuel in it , I had it up on the lift at the weekend to put lanoguard on the underside but for its age it was really good anyway.
Fortunately I have the tools and knowledge to do my own work so I don't have to pay the eye watering dealer service costs .
He was correct. Big smiles every time you jump in your car!
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For that kind of money, you could get a Guilia Quadrifoglio with warranty, more spec, better handling, more power and more space. But I guess people wouldn't notice you as much in the office car park.
I daily my F10 M5 doing 15k miles per year. Including BMWs warranty I budget on £250 per month before it turns a wheel. That includes BMW servicing plus interim oil/filter changes, road tax and tyres (if needed). Unfortunately I see similar cars for sale which look great when priced against a new Fiesta or Focus but the M5 is still a £70k car when it comes to running costs.
He must have a good job. Im happy with my 2014 bmw 320 sport.
These cars need to be driven , had my 4200 for nearly 4 years never let me down apart from services and a clutch and your usual consumer items .
Awesome! How much per year has the 4200 cost roughly in maintenance and servicing?
@@dadcars I would say about 1k to 2k but Iam quite handy with a spanner .
I like the passion and no one can ever tell you that you overspent if it brings a smile to your face. That said for the extra £20k sunk into improvements you could have had a 2018 model
That’s what I think a lot of people do, max out on the best car they can then it sits on their drive as they don’t have the spare cash to use it properly and fear something going wrong 👌 I made a similar argument for the FF over a lusso.
@@dadcars but in this video it doesn’t factor in depreciation. £30k for 2009 model plus £15-20k improvements vs £50k for 2018 (likely with some warranty) both will depreciate (2018 one quicker) but then will max out at £30k vs paying an additional £15-20k to still have a £30k car but 9 years older
@@apb3251 but a 2018 would have cost a lot more than 50k 2 years ago
@@dadcars perhaps but now the 2009 car is not worth £50k investment it’s worth £30k which is the price all of these models have clung to for the past 8 years unless it’s a 60k mileage example which would be more like £23k
how old and how many miles did it have when bought?
I can understand where you are coming from. My passion is sailing, described as standing in a cold shower tearing up $10 notes!
If you truly love it… and you can afford to do it, it’s worth it for the memories 😊🙌
These are beautiful cars. I love the use its had, life is too short to drive boring cars!
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Love Maserati but I don't think I will be buying a secondhand one soon with those running costs!
What a sound. Every drop of fuel going into that engine is a blessing of god. 😁
This guy gets it 🙌 💯 hope you subscribe and stick around for more 😎
@@dadcars I have heard about your channel on jayemm on cars for some time but I never had the time to watch any of your videos. However, TH-cam decided to show this video on my feed. I also love Maseratis, especially the sound. Aston Martin has a nice sound especially a cold start, but I think Maserati has the best sound
So long as you can afford it, any cost is worth it if you enjoy it!
Lovely car, but that's just crazy! Maybe someone should have quitely slipped a photo of a Lexus LC 500 in front of him before he took the plunge on the Gran Turismo. Then again if you have deep deep pockets and it's what you really want....
I asked the Maserati dealership what the cost was to replace a windshield - $4200 Canadian. I had my Ford F-150 windshield replaced for $230