"Who wants to pedal up here" ??? People who aren't lazy. That's who. Do you know how many mountain bikers ride all around the country on trails lmao Trust me, plenty. And just becasue you don't see them doesnt mean they're not out there.
You mean "All I wanted to do was break the rules and get an exception because I am an entitled, self-unaware twat with the temperament of a three year old"
Just get an actual e-bike, problem solved. Police cracked down hard on all the 12 year olds riding them in my area doing wheelies in the middle of the road with traffic. Now you don’t see Surrons at all.
Doesn't matter whether power comes from gas or battery, they are motorized, which is the problem. If you don't like it, find an appropriate trail because they do exist.
Shut up! I've taken my bike on SO many trails that are "non-motorized" trails and I even went past a ranger he was more interested on the bike then the "rules" because it's still in the "bike" catalog.
I've been riding mountain bikes 40 years and thousands of miles. I despise eBikes because of the damage they do to a trail system, not to mention the impatient riders they attract because they are so much faster than conventional a bicycle. Be upset with yourself that you made an error in judgement and maybe a bit thankful you didn't get a huge fine.
I’m curious. Why are you so eager to ride a motorcycle on a bike trail? Why can’t you be happy on a motorcycle trail? There’s a reason bikes and hikers don’t want to share a trail with you. Because it doesn’t take long for a motorcycle trail to look and ride like $hit. Hope you get an expensive ticket next time.
lol who wants to pedal .. well I pedal and Twist a throttel love both of them. but Socity needs a few non motorized places to get away from it man.. OHV Roads and Trails are the salution brother we have some good ones in California we got to ride with the dirty bikes on our Electric pit bikes lol.. Motorized is Motorized sure there are good points to the argument Like how on the way down im far faster on my mtb than on my Talaria lol.. but it is what it is man Hikers/walkers Old people pet walkers Families need natural space away from Moterized vehicles.. if your missing the off Road Look into OHV in your Aera Brother you might find something..
I understand what you're saying but the thing is, this is a fire road, not a MTB trail or anything... there is literally NOBODY hiking there. Furthermore, this trail has a lot of straights and the turns are wide. there is virtually NO WAY you would not see anyone coming (IF there ever was anyone). Additionally, we just went exploring. we were NOT rippin up the place.
@@VoltedAdventures I Know that I got a similar spot I ride both my mtb and Talaria sting and I Hike up with my dogs it's a Fire road as well. Legally the Only motor vehicles allowed is Rangers and fire so even though it is not a Hiking or mtb Trail but a fier Rd they do not Have a Problem with Hikers or mtb'ers. Usually just unauthorized motorized Vehicles are Illegal.. Just stating the Facts im not being a Keran I do the same thing you're doing lol.. its important people Know because u run in to the wrong Ranger having a bad day they Can Take and impound you're bike Just Like a cop can.. Have fun but be mindful and vigilant brother..
Glad you can drive an F250 and a camper up there but you can’t ride a motorcycle back there. A bit stupid. I’ll take a street legal pre runner back there and laugh at them as i drive by
@@icebox829 yeah, that's not really an argument though. Police, wildlife, fish and game, life guards, the coast guard; they can all go places the public is not allowed to go. Being open to the public and open to workers is totally different. Motorcycles ruining trails more than any other vehicle is a farse, but arguing you should be able to go where officers can go is a little silly.
"All right guys, thanks for being so nice" followed by a bunch of whining and negotiating. Ya got busted so just turn around and find an actual dirt bike trail. Glad the rangers were there to keep him off for that day. My guess is he'll be riding that trail again when the rangers don't happen to be around.
As a trail builder I get why people don't like surrons on mtb trails, unfortunately I'd forsure love to ride a surron/trials bike on Mtb trails if I had one. The funny part is you goofs complaining about surrons ruining trails when you've probably never touched a shovel or a rake, or done any form of trail maintenance.
You're not hurting anybody until you do man. I'm about to buy my first e-bike in Cali and ride these types of trails, BUT I'm also a hiker. You can't say you're not hurting anybody riding 20+ mph around blind corners. Why not get a bell like a lot of downhillers? Hikers are always listening out for them and can preemptively get out of the way. You're right no one wants to pedal up but they do. I'm one of them.
@@donjonjr1no motor vehicles? On a fire road? Are you…high? Do the fire department walk out there with their hoses and axes. Fire roads are just roads. People use them to get to camp sites and hunting grounds and OHV areas all over the country. Absolutely no reason a motorized vehicle isn’t allowed. If yo UCA. Drive a car back there yo I can drive a motorcycle back there. Especially one that’s street legal
He was cool and did t write you a ticket, now you're going to abuse his respect by continuing to be disrespectful and go where society has agreed yourv eMotorcycle should ride. You're disrespectful, selfish and you ruin it for others. You are part of the problem.
How about you just be respectful and obey the rules. People should unsubscribe from your channel, then maybe you won't have a reason to illegal and stupid shit.
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The cops here (Norway) would have seized the bikes:/ I grew up in the 80s and we could drive everywhere with our noisy off roads without problems at all. That was freedom. Today weare twice as much people on earth, so freedom is getting smaller and smaller. Soon we must apply to take a dump. Nice officer though- more cops like him!
There's not more people that's just an excuse. There's actually less people. Kids should be able to explore and play. Current conditions is way our kids are on drugs and miserable.
Man, you should check that statement out. The world population has almost doubled since 1985. If people respected others property we would still be able to be like we were back in the day. We had a place to ride 3 wheelers and dirtibikes for years, decades, local privately owned. The owner would come out and sit and visit with us when we were there. A few years ago I went there to ride and he had fenced it off. He pulled up and told me sorry he was tired of picking up garbage, someone had burned a stolen car there, and people were starting to camp there and when he told them they couldnt they called the police on him. He fenced it off and its gone. Also loud, COOL pipes, and lawyers have fucked it all up.@@GenghisKhan311
1:21 you really shouldn’t have your ad practically cover the entire screen while you’re riding! Very dangerous. Might as well have just closed your eyes. You seriously could’ve ran into an oncoming car or something. Maybe just in the future, either pull over to run the ad, or just have it down in the corner of the screen so that you can still see where you’re going n stuff. We need you to stay safe out there bro!!
I recall when a nj park ranger shot and killed a guy riding a motor vehicle on an authorized trail. The event was a big deal at the time and expect is not forgotten.
isnt the reason gas dirtbikes and atv not allowed on those trails is because the loud noise can bother people who live around the trails or the wildlife, so why are these bikes not allowed since they dont bother anyone
Trail maintenance is a large part of differentiating uses, also what kind of multi use access is permitted. High speed and high torque will tear up a trail, causing much higher maintenance, and higher speeds can create hazards with walkers or other slower users, that may be avoided with pedal only use. E-bikes and other PEV types are relatively new products, and the laws and rules are only just starting to figure out how to manage them. Personally, I think trails should have a max speed limit, and some kind of wear and tear or gnarly rating, and users should respect that regardless of the vehicle type. With time, I hope we get effective and accommodating use laws that protect the public while also allowing fun with PEV's.
Hey what up Don't know if my last comment got posted or not but what I had commented is why do some law enforcement think a surron is something else that isn't? I think it's an electric bike without the pedals That's made to look like a dirt bike
If I had a surron I would ride it on the street, screw them its an Ebike with out pedel and an electric motor so I plan on Kettering an e-bike that's 3,000 w dual motors 52 volt with pedals. What are they going to say next about what kind of e-bike that is?
Don’t live in a communist state and this kinda stuff won’t happen. Here in Arizona we can drive e-bikes on or offroad anywhere. Then again we don’t have grown men complaining like little girls.
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Man that’s so cool, my surron looks like a Dirtbike to pedestrians so I lowkey want to register it to avoid problems with the cops I just don’t know if it’s worth it and what the process would be
A Surron is an electric dirt bike (motobike). It's not the same thing as an E-MTB. It has to have pedals and be limited to 20mph to ride e-bike trails.
i finally got my volted gloves in the mail!!! thank you bro. quality is insane. also great video. super nice interaction. everyone was being reasonable. the cops were being nice and the riders were being respectful. this is great to see. happy new year stay safe brotha!!💪🤙
Not true. It still won't be a Class 1 or even a class 2 or 3 E-mtb. You need to learn the rules of e-mtb riding. I'm limited even with my class 1 (no throttle, 20mph max).
@theblys Yes, actually, it is true. And I am plenty versed on ebike laws, so you can save your pretention for someone else, thanks. If the bike can be propelled by you pedaling it, then it can be operated as such, anywhere that a normal bike can be ridden. Whether it be a public roadway or a path limited to a specific class. It is true that these motors are far too powerful when unrestricted to be labeled as class 1,2, or 3. However by simply installing a pedal kit that can allow the user to propel the bike via pedaling while limiting/disabling the power from the motor, you actually can ride it anywhere a standard bike can be ridden. The reason is because that as long as the bike is limited to whatever the speed and variation of propulsion that the local regulations dictate pertaining to the path being traveled upon, then no crime is being committed. The laws labeling classes are in regards to the speed, motor wattage output, and method of input to propel the bike. A pedal kit can satiate all of those issues. Look into it. These bikes can very much fall into a hybrid Grey area. It's ok if you don't understand since you only have a class 1 bike.
@@joshp2608does fitting a set of cranks and pedals to it automatically disable the throttle and limit the output of the motor? Or is that all still usable to the rider? Do people buy e-bikes and then not use the motor sometimes? I think motor assisted pedaling can be pretty handy for people who want to exercise but not kill their joints (and I don’t think people care too much about those electric bikes) but the ones that you don’t have to pedal at all are electric motorcycles and probably should be on a designated trail for motorized vehicles. It’s clearly a polarizing topic and with the surge of electric motor powered transportation there will definitely have to be some new laws and regs worked out.
I agree with most commentors here, but I predict our friend here will be seen as a pioneer in the future. Eventually the parks will change the rules to let you ride the electric motorcycle. This sort of thing happened with bikes in skateparks. Bike riders just kept illegally using the parks regardless of the rules and enforcement. Eventually, the parks opened up to bike riders. The only way to stop it is with threat of violence from the locals. Skate-only parks usually have a militia of local skaters watching over them.
These aren't MTB trails. They're roads that night lead to trail heads but they certainly aren't trails yet. Ride em. Why not. They're already rutted up so bad from wash out. How much damage are you gonna do on a little Surron bike? Like C'mon. Plus these guys aren't ripping anything up. They're pretty conservative actually. I ride dirt bikes and an e-mtb. Where i live i wouldn't be startled to see these bikes riding the roads. Nobody would. The MTB trails here are much tighter and smaller. Single track. Those i wouldn't ride with a Surron but these? They're roads. The Rangers are driving up there in 3/4 ton trucks so gimmie a break.
@@tylerandsandiescott2893 and that's why I said there's not a snowballs chance in hell it will work. Every trail association in America hates surrons and will advocate against changing any laws. You're better off making your own space.
Dirtbike ebike who cares this is our country. We should make the rules not the select few. No wonder all the kids are on drugs. Everything fun is illegal. People need to fight for our rights back. Public property should be open forbthe public to do what we want as long as people dont trash it
He was chill although misinformed. Law enforcement do not have the authority to make up a law on the spot. To this day there is not a single national park or public path with any law against electric bikes. So if it looked like a pos Giant mtn bike it would be okay but purely on cosmetics it is not allowed?
And there never should be a law. Whocares if kids or people are out enjoying riding around. People need to take back control of our country. Sad they want everyone lock in a room playing video games
Well said and yes the powers would prefer people stayed inside on the games all day, it helps control the citizens if they have no actual goals or hope. Get back on that trail and take the ticket to fight it. @@GenghisKhan311
you need to do some research, its called a non motorized trail. were motorized vehicles are illegal. and theses fkn stupid electric motor bikes are classed as motorized. it is prohibited to use a motor vehicle on National Forest System trails, except on those trails designated for off-highway vehicle use. 36 CFR 261.55(b) See Exhibits A, B-2, C, and D for exceptions and locations.
@clintonkeith5333 No a lot of laws exist because the karens of the world can't stfu and mind there own shit. How many e-moto accidents happen in your country every year? Definitely not enough to create laws but here we are.
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Dude, you’re local to me. That’s the orange line bike path at 0:17 ! I’ve seen a few surrons riding up & down that path!
@@2ification Might have been us lol
Glad too see rangers taking care of business
The business: cheeseburgers and pizza
What are you doing next? Driving a snowmobile up a ski resort?
Wtf dude. That would be awesome
I'd pay a dollar to see dat!
I'm so glad you have an overdeveloped sense of entitlement and think that rules don't apply to you.
"Who wants to pedal up here"
???
People who aren't lazy. That's who.
Do you know how many mountain bikers ride all around the country on trails lmao
Trust me, plenty. And just becasue you don't see them doesnt mean they're not out there.
Pedal Power!! 🦵🦵🚵🏽♀️
You mean "All I wanted to do was break the rules and get an exception because I am an entitled, self-unaware twat with the temperament of a three year old"
You’re an idiot what a stupid comment 🤣 seems like you’re the 3 year old throwing a tantrum.
we are free people we dont have rules outside dont hurt people ... piss off
Just get an actual e-bike, problem solved. Police cracked down hard on all the 12 year olds riding them in my area doing wheelies in the middle of the road with traffic. Now you don’t see Surrons at all.
Doesn't matter whether power comes from gas or battery, they are motorized, which is the problem. If you don't like it, find an appropriate trail because they do exist.
Shut up! I've taken my bike on SO many trails that are "non-motorized" trails and I even went past a ranger he was more interested on the bike then the "rules" because it's still in the "bike" catalog.
I've been riding mountain bikes 40 years and thousands of miles. I despise eBikes because of the damage they do to a trail system, not to mention the impatient riders they attract because they are so much faster than conventional a bicycle. Be upset with yourself that you made an error in judgement and maybe a bit thankful you didn't get a huge fine.
@@upsmann9695 nah, the day I get a fine is also the day they catch me lol
@@RacingR-Csdoes a Surron have pedals? no it's a motorcycle
If he doesn't like it he should start working to build trails just for dirt bikes, and then use those.
My take, if it's an ebike that can operate on motor alone without pedaling, then it should not be allowed.
I’m curious. Why are you so eager to ride a motorcycle on a bike trail? Why can’t you be happy on a motorcycle trail? There’s a reason bikes and hikers don’t want to share a trail with you. Because it doesn’t take long for a motorcycle trail to look and ride like $hit. Hope you get an expensive ticket next time.
Was this a bike trail though? There were full size trucks going up there.
@@tylerandsandiescott2893 fair point
@@user-op8fg3ny3jno that’s not a fair point. Only Rangers are allowed on wide paths for maintenance purpose and often times use fire trail.
@@voicenadar1762 It defeats the point about wrecking the trail though. Why can't they cycle up there like everyone else?
Hikers make trails wider than bikes. Ever seen a bike trail? 6in wide tops.
Quit it dude. Seek help for your entitlement issues.
lol who wants to pedal .. well I pedal and Twist a throttel love both of them. but Socity needs a few non motorized places to get away from it man.. OHV Roads and Trails are the salution brother we have some good ones in California we got to ride with the dirty bikes on our Electric pit bikes lol.. Motorized is Motorized sure there are good points to the argument Like how on the way down im far faster on my mtb than on my Talaria lol.. but it is what it is man Hikers/walkers Old people pet walkers Families need natural space away from Moterized vehicles.. if your missing the off Road Look into OHV in your Aera Brother you might find something..
I understand what you're saying but the thing is, this is a fire road, not a MTB trail or anything... there is literally NOBODY hiking there. Furthermore, this trail has a lot of straights and the turns are wide. there is virtually NO WAY you would not see anyone coming (IF there ever was anyone). Additionally, we just went exploring. we were NOT rippin up the place.
@@VoltedAdventuresAll that matters is your motorcycle is not allowed there. You are a nuisance.
@@VoltedAdventures I Know that I got a similar spot I ride both my mtb and Talaria sting and I Hike up with my dogs it's a Fire road as well. Legally the Only motor vehicles allowed is Rangers and fire so even though it is not a Hiking or mtb Trail but a fier Rd they do not Have a Problem with Hikers or mtb'ers. Usually just unauthorized motorized Vehicles are Illegal.. Just stating the Facts im not being a Keran I do the same thing you're doing lol.. its important people Know because u run in to the wrong Ranger having a bad day they Can Take and impound you're bike Just Like a cop can.. Have fun but be mindful and vigilant brother..
“Grey Area” hah. Knock it off
Yeah people that aren’t lazy will pedal up there and pedal all of it.
“Go slow so you can show the trails around the valley” on a pedal powered bike🙄
Just spend time studying maps and know the rules
Glad you can drive an F250 and a camper up there but you can’t ride a motorcycle back there. A bit stupid. I’ll take a street legal pre runner back there and laugh at them as i drive by
@@icebox829 yeah, that's not really an argument though. Police, wildlife, fish and game, life guards, the coast guard; they can all go places the public is not allowed to go.
Being open to the public and open to workers is totally different.
Motorcycles ruining trails more than any other vehicle is a farse, but arguing you should be able to go where officers can go is a little silly.
"All right guys, thanks for being so nice" followed by a bunch of whining and negotiating. Ya got busted so just turn around and find an actual dirt bike trail. Glad the rangers were there to keep him off for that day. My guess is he'll be riding that trail again when the rangers don't happen to be around.
As a trail builder I get why people don't like surrons on mtb trails, unfortunately I'd forsure love to ride a surron/trials bike on Mtb trails if I had one. The funny part is you goofs complaining about surrons ruining trails when you've probably never touched a shovel or a rake, or done any form of trail maintenance.
These aren't trails. They're roads. They haven't seen a rake or shovel in their life in guessing.
That’s not even trai lthough that’s a dirt road
You're not hurting anybody until you do man. I'm about to buy my first e-bike in Cali and ride these types of trails, BUT I'm also a hiker. You can't say you're not hurting anybody riding 20+ mph around blind corners. Why not get a bell like a lot of downhillers? Hikers are always listening out for them and can preemptively get out of the way. You're right no one wants to pedal up but they do. I'm one of them.
Yea I agree with that, popular trails where you KNOW other people use, is something I avoid
surrons have a horn
and?@@sonle7019
@@sonle7019 This
A bell is fair enough.
Silly surron riders. Get a real Moto…stay off mtb trails
This is a Fire Road, not a mtb trail.
@@VoltedAdventuresA lot of fire roads in California are multi trail user which means no motor vehicles but you already know that
@@donjonjr1 kinda invalidates the point about the surron ripping up the trail though
@@user-op8fg3ny3j yep, surrons shouldn't be there
@@donjonjr1no motor vehicles? On a fire road? Are you…high? Do the fire department walk out there with their hoses and axes. Fire roads are just roads. People use them to get to camp sites and hunting grounds and OHV areas all over the country. Absolutely no reason a motorized vehicle isn’t allowed. If yo UCA. Drive a car back there yo I can drive a motorcycle back there. Especially one that’s street legal
Go to a motocross track.
Lol it's not a gray area, you are riding a motorcycle on trails meant for bicycles
That Ranger was super chill....
Yessir 🫡
But you're still going to be selfish and disrespectful. Can't wait to you hurt someone and you see what "being an adult" really amounts to.
Hey Volted guys, good video, is it okay to include it in moto compilation? Credited of course! Keep up!
Yessir 🫡
Ok thanks , I’ll be out riding the trails again after you go away for lunch , I’m sure you’re hungry lol !
Get fit. Ride a bike. Win-win.
I'm also confused by this, because he is riding slower than an analog MTB 😂
i have built a 60mph full suspension Ebike, to avoid this, a Surron is a motorcycle.
I got a 72v surron and im curious if you registered it or not
@@Danielxperez14 No, it's mtb from Walmart that i converted into a Ebike.
Damn dude that ranger was pretty chill man he even said i wish i could let you guys 😂 Gotta love that landscape man so beautiful 🤘
Yea bro he was super cool. That trail is insane, I gotta go back lol
@@VoltedAdventures Maybe take a different entry just incase 🤣👍
He was cool and did t write you a ticket, now you're going to abuse his respect by continuing to be disrespectful and go where society has agreed yourv eMotorcycle should ride.
You're disrespectful, selfish and you ruin it for others.
You are part of the problem.
Maybe take a bicycle next time you want to ride bicycle trails...
How about you just be respectful and obey the rules.
People should unsubscribe from your channel, then maybe you won't have a reason to illegal and stupid shit.
Hello! Would it be okay to use it in compilations and maybe on some of ours Social Networks? You will get full credit for it. Thanks
Yessir 🫡
@@VoltedAdventures Thanks a lot :)
Noone cares about this clown. Use good footage instead.
Dude, your biggest mistake is publicizing what you are doing. You are giving motorcycles a bad name. Be smart
What's going on! Would it be ok with you if I share this vide for my youtube project? I'll credit you on screen and I'll drop a link in description of course. Thanks in advance.
That would be awesome
Hello! Is it possible to incorporate this video into my upcoming videos? Thanks for your help ! :)
Yes, just please give credit in the description
The cops here (Norway) would have seized the bikes:/ I grew up in the 80s and we could drive everywhere with our noisy off roads without problems at all. That was freedom. Today weare twice as much people on earth, so freedom is getting smaller and smaller. Soon we must apply to take a dump. Nice officer though- more cops like him!
"Soon we must apply to take a dump" lol I feel you man. We are not that far off form this... and yea that officer was really cool
There's not more people that's just an excuse. There's actually less people.
Kids should be able to explore and play. Current conditions is way our kids are on drugs and miserable.
Man, you should check that statement out. The world population has almost doubled since 1985. If people respected others property we would still be able to be like we were back in the day. We had a place to ride 3 wheelers and dirtibikes for years, decades, local privately owned. The owner would come out and sit and visit with us when we were there. A few years ago I went there to ride and he had fenced it off. He pulled up and told me sorry he was tired of picking up garbage, someone had burned a stolen car there, and people were starting to camp there and when he told them they couldnt they called the police on him. He fenced it off and its gone. Also loud, COOL pipes, and lawyers have fucked it all up.@@GenghisKhan311
Cops aren't going to be cool if you keep disrespecting him, his title and the law.
@@GenghisKhan311 there are more people, but it's an aging population
what name for that trail?
1:21 you really shouldn’t have your ad practically cover the entire screen while you’re riding! Very dangerous. Might as well have just closed your eyes. You seriously could’ve ran into an oncoming car or something.
Maybe just in the future, either pull over to run the ad, or just have it down in the corner of the screen so that you can still see where you’re going n stuff.
We need you to stay safe out there bro!!
Why would he be seeing a screen?
😂😂😂 Will do! 🫡
I recall when a nj park ranger shot and killed a guy riding a motor vehicle on an authorized trail. The event was a big deal at the time and expect is not forgotten.
No one wants to pedal up there? And the laws shouldn't apply to you because you say you ride safely and slow? Get over yourself.
Hey mate, would it be nice to feature your clip in my next episode? Credited of course (watermark and link to your channel).
I don't see why not?
Wait, no e-moto, but you can drive trucks and haul campers up there?
clown world
Your the clown ..clown..
Can we see your calves?
LMAO this is my new favorite question for the surron losers
nice glove!!!!!!!!!!!! kind of want one of that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no location?
isnt the reason gas dirtbikes and atv not allowed on those trails is because the loud noise can bother people who live around the trails or the wildlife, so why are these bikes not allowed since they dont bother anyone
Trail maintenance is a large part of differentiating uses, also what kind of multi use access is permitted. High speed and high torque will tear up a trail, causing much higher maintenance, and higher speeds can create hazards with walkers or other slower users, that may be avoided with pedal only use.
E-bikes and other PEV types are relatively new products, and the laws and rules are only just starting to figure out how to manage them. Personally, I think trails should have a max speed limit, and some kind of wear and tear or gnarly rating, and users should respect that regardless of the vehicle type. With time, I hope we get effective and accommodating use laws that protect the public while also allowing fun with PEV's.
Surrons are pretty quiet.
Your video was so engaging! Would it be alright if I include a snippet on my channel? I promise to credit you prominently.
Yea thats cool
Engaging on how to break rules
This guy is an idiot.
I didn't see you go through a locked gate with official vehicles only sign.
If he is still holding. He would be up 3x by now
Where is this?
Los Angeles
Hey what up Don't know if my last comment got posted or not but what I had commented is why do some law enforcement think a surron is something else that isn't? I think it's an electric bike without the pedals That's made to look like a dirt bike
I feel you
You want to be treated with respect yet you don't respect the law. There are still good people in the world. Try to be one.
If I had a surron I would ride it on the street, screw them its an Ebike with out pedel and an electric motor so I plan on Kettering an e-bike that's 3,000 w dual motors 52 volt with pedals. What are they going to say next about what kind of e-bike that is?
Why don't you use your muscles and not be a lazy person?
Just a different way to enjoy yourself. Not everyone thinks like you.
@@tylerandsandiescott2893you're right, not everyone is physically capable. Some people are invalids. Those people ride surrons.
Pretty sure that ranger does not do much pedaling......
Neither the rider...
At least he wasn't an ass hole to you nice views tho 👍🏽
Yea he was super chill.
2-strokes 4 life
I’m down to try this with my dirt bike 🤷🏾♂️
Yep you’re probably better off at Disneyland.
Don’t live in a communist state and this kinda stuff won’t happen. Here in Arizona we can drive e-bikes on or offroad anywhere. Then again we don’t have grown men complaining like little girls.
How does Arizona feel about riding electric motorcycles everywhere? Because that’s what this is would be classified as lol
Hello, Rider!
Wonderful clip! Would it be OK if we used it in a youtube video we're making and maybe share it on our social media? We'll credit you in the video and all descriptions. Thank you! :)
Can you explain what happened? :)
No.
the trails are beat and it has nothing to do with the bikes, they drove up thier .. whats the difrence . this is just silly bad laws
6:30 that’s what she said… 😬 #tiny
Hey what's up have a question why do some law enforcement says or thanks. A servron is a motorcycle that is ridiculous. It's not
No way 😮😮😮
Man that’s so cool, my surron looks like a Dirtbike to pedestrians so I lowkey want to register it to avoid problems with the cops I just don’t know if it’s worth it and what the process would be
Depends on what state you're in. Theres a lot of good info on the Surron FB groups. I would look there.
im in cali@@VoltedAdventures
A Surron is an electric dirt bike (motobike). It's not the same thing as an E-MTB. It has to have pedals and be limited to 20mph to ride e-bike trails.
28mph* your misinformed@@reelmtb
Wow another reason I would never live there!
Go ride in northern Nevada and get out of California.
😂
Nothing grey about it, you are riding a motorcycle. Stop being lazy.
👍🔥nice bike
Thanks
This 😂😂😂 suck it motos
Nope keep riding
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put a pedal kit on your bike and it can be ridden anywhere
Not true. It still won't be a Class 1 or even a class 2 or 3 E-mtb. You need to learn the rules of e-mtb riding. I'm limited even with my class 1 (no throttle, 20mph max).
@theblys Yes, actually, it is true. And I am plenty versed on ebike laws, so you can save your pretention for someone else, thanks.
If the bike can be propelled by you pedaling it, then it can be operated as such, anywhere that a normal bike can be ridden. Whether it be a public roadway or a path limited to a specific class.
It is true that these motors are far too powerful when unrestricted to be labeled as class 1,2, or 3. However by simply installing a pedal kit that can allow the user to propel the bike via pedaling while limiting/disabling the power from the motor, you actually can ride it anywhere a standard bike can be ridden.
The reason is because that as long as the bike is limited to whatever the speed and variation of propulsion that the local regulations dictate pertaining to the path being traveled upon, then no crime is being committed.
The laws labeling classes are in regards to the speed, motor wattage output, and method of input to propel the bike. A pedal kit can satiate all of those issues. Look into it. These bikes can very much fall into a hybrid Grey area. It's ok if you don't understand since you only have a class 1 bike.
@theblys the rules are different in almost every country.
@@joshp2608does fitting a set of cranks and pedals to it automatically disable the throttle and limit the output of the motor? Or is that all still usable to the rider? Do people buy e-bikes and then not use the motor sometimes? I think motor assisted pedaling can be pretty handy for people who want to exercise but not kill their joints (and I don’t think people care too much about those electric bikes) but the ones that you don’t have to pedal at all are electric motorcycles and probably should be on a designated trail for motorized vehicles. It’s clearly a polarizing topic and with the surge of electric motor powered transportation there will definitely have to be some new laws and regs worked out.
I agree with most commentors here, but I predict our friend here will be seen as a pioneer in the future. Eventually the parks will change the rules to let you ride the electric motorcycle. This sort of thing happened with bikes in skateparks. Bike riders just kept illegally using the parks regardless of the rules and enforcement. Eventually, the parks opened up to bike riders. The only way to stop it is with threat of violence from the locals. Skate-only parks usually have a militia of local skaters watching over them.
Slap a pedal kit on and you would have been fine.
These aren't MTB trails. They're roads that night lead to trail heads but they certainly aren't trails yet. Ride em. Why not. They're already rutted up so bad from wash out. How much damage are you gonna do on a little Surron bike? Like C'mon. Plus these guys aren't ripping anything up. They're pretty conservative actually. I ride dirt bikes and an e-mtb. Where i live i wouldn't be startled to see these bikes riding the roads. Nobody would. The MTB trails here are much tighter and smaller. Single track. Those i wouldn't ride with a Surron but these? They're roads. The Rangers are driving up there in 3/4 ton trucks so gimmie a break.
if a motor vehicle can be ridden on the road then so can you bike
It’s nice to know that there’s no code of conduct as far as physical fitness For Park Rangers
We need to press our government officials to allow these on mtb trails. Get the laws changed so people can have fun again
Not a snowballs chance in hell. Build your own trails or take it to a mx track if you're too lazy to pedal an ebike.
@@theGiver3 lul you don't own the trails you ride on ya goofball
@@blackpepe doesn't matter, does it? Rule is no mx bikes. Therefore, no surrons are allowed. End of story.
@theGiver3 that why I was saying to go after our politicians and get the laws changed.
@@tylerandsandiescott2893 and that's why I said there's not a snowballs chance in hell it will work. Every trail association in America hates surrons and will advocate against changing any laws. You're better off making your own space.
I'm confused u can't ride a electric motor bike on a trail its not a gas powered dirt bike i think it could be fought in court its ridiculous
Dirtbike ebike who cares this is our country. We should make the rules not the select few. No wonder all the kids are on drugs. Everything fun is illegal.
People need to fight for our rights back. Public property should be open forbthe public to do what we want as long as people dont trash it
Lol. You think there should be no laws or rules?
Absolute bullshit. Its a e bike totally harmless. Maybe he would have been cool if he wasn’t there to kick the camper out
He was chill although misinformed. Law enforcement do not have the authority to make up a law on the spot. To this day there is not a single national park or public path with any law against electric bikes. So if it looked like a pos Giant mtn bike it would be okay but purely on cosmetics it is not allowed?
Agree
And there never should be a law. Whocares if kids or people are out enjoying riding around. People need to take back control of our country. Sad they want everyone lock in a room playing video games
Well said and yes the powers would prefer people stayed inside on the games all day, it helps control the citizens if they have no actual goals or hope. Get back on that trail and take the ticket to fight it. @@GenghisKhan311
you need to do some research, its called a non motorized trail. were motorized vehicles are illegal. and theses fkn stupid electric motor bikes are classed as motorized.
it is prohibited to use a motor vehicle on National Forest System trails, except on those trails designated for off-highway vehicle use. 36 CFR 261.55(b) See Exhibits A, B-2, C, and D for exceptions and locations.
www.ecfr.gov/current/title-36/chapter-I/part-4/section-4.30
Government overreach
Ban ebikes
Laws, laws, laws,,,,and more and more laws !!!!!! Laws laws laws !!!!!!
Sadly, a lot of laws exist due to people who lack common sense or respect for others.
@clintonkeith5333 No a lot of laws exist because the karens of the world can't stfu and mind there own shit.
How many e-moto accidents happen in your country every year? Definitely not enough to create laws but here we are.
Control,control, control !!!!!!!