I don't care about wins anymore. I just want Matas to get more minutes. They should've prioritize his development. He'll not develop into something if he's not seeing the court in a consistent minute.
No kidding. He needs to be seeing the floor for at least 16 minutes I would prefer him to play at least half of the game. Let him get his legs under him, his confidence up and the experience
@@swaymcthunder1219 no kidding, it's been oh let's try again! For years now! Like 1-6 mins for buzelis is criminal. You can see his promise but lacks confidence and doesn't want to look bad in his few minutes he gets. Once he's comfortable and has more time to work with his productivity will increase
This isn't just on Billy. Management wants to favor the vets to chase the playin again. Development of the young guys should be the main priority. Let the man make his mistakes. Let PAW make his mistakes. Ditto phillips and DT.
Literally one of the only things I think Billy does well as a coach is developing young talent. He just never has been given that opportunity to do that. And I am not a Billy d supporter at all.
The Bulls are weird. They've made questionable picks with their lottery selections in recent history. They gave Passive P the green light early, yet they're handcuffing Matas. He needs to get out there and get embarrassed a few times. The kid should be in there for 15 minutes per game right now.
They didn't really give PAW the green light. They essentially gave up on him after one year when they signed demar. Ya, he played minutes. But i just stood at the 3 point line. That isn't developing and giving him the green light. They never took off his train wheels. Like you said, and what I been saying all offseason, let these kids make mistakes. Let them learn on the fly from them. But as long as the united center continues to sell out, nothing will change.
I just understand Billy Donovan’s logic on Matas Buzelis the media should be asking questions aggressively about his development and that plan to develop him
it isnt about playing well. its about making at least the 1st round of the playoffs for the Reinsdorf to get that playoff money. i am pretty sure that is the main motivation. we can lose after the first round. they dont care. but as long as they get those extra 2-4 sellouts.
It’s because they’re “playing to win” and for some reason they think the people they’re playing currently are going to help them get there. News flash: they won’t. Let the kid play
I think they playing him to give him a chance to up his trade value. The sooner the better, he might be included in a package with either Lavine or vuc
One of MY BIGGEST "PROBLEMS" with the team is I want to see them with a different coaching staff before I pass too much judgement on them. Even though I give Donovan credit for joining the 21st. CENTURY - FINALLY - I still don't like how he uses the players - or should I say, "DON'T" USE the players.
I don’t get why Billy puts matas in early, then doesn’t put him in again😂 like he just plays less than 5 minutes in the first half most nights what a weird rotation
to be fair, Craig did good tonight even on defense, he was the only player the bulls have that hustle offense and defense, but everybody else was just low to none effort. and let's be honest if you all just watch the game, it's like 45 points combined from Giannis and Lopez was an 100% easy bucket because of vooch's defense, just being real, this is what I said before, Vooch can average 20 points and 10 rebounds a night but will average 40 opponents points per game and 20 opponents rebounds per game.
It's weird how, before the season he was speculated to be among the most nba ready, now all we hear is he has to earn it, he's not ready... how does he earn it if he doesn't play. Let's face it, chicago is the worst place to be signed to as a rookie. If you ain't star level out of the gate forget about it
I agree screw the wins we're not that good, let's develop our young guys and try to trade/rescue Vooch and Zach asap because this team can't help those guys and those guys even at their best can't help this team win, let the youth play and the chips fall where they may
Because Billy and the FO are trying to win so they can bring fans in. They are prioritizing short term, shallow success over long term stable development.
I'm sure Matas will receive more PT after Xmas when the NBA season unofficially begins. By this time he should be familiar with the pace of play, and the talent level of the NBA. I wouldn't have played the rook against the oversized Bucks frontcourt. They have a veteran lineup and he would've struggled on defense where all vets do is draw fouls and get to the FT line.
Wzup bulls central hey do u think its hard for the bulls to play defense because they get called for a foul every time they touch somebody i mean i know there was some foul but do the refs have to call every fucking thing on them i think the game was called in the bucks favor because the game was on espn.
Because he's a project player that's why. Look how well they did with PW. And they gave him all the minutes in the world and he's still mediocre. Tonight's game was no different from the 1st game matchup the Bucks scored 122 pts again but White didn't score 35 to bail them out. Vucevic was outstanding doing his best statue impersonation best yet. Giddy has been taking shooting lessons from Ben Simmons. Listen we all know Giddy can't shoot very well he just needs to get others open shots and when he does that we have a chance. The game was on ESPN and the panel of so called experts were very honest on the Bulls dilemma. They are bad but not bad enough. Nobody knows what direction they are going in including the people who are running things.
The Bulls just suck at this point. AK looks ridiculously confusing in his decision to trade away Caruso for a weak @$$ Josh Giddy, letting go of reputable and contributing players like Drummond, Javonte Green, DJJ, And of course Demar Derozan for what? Not to develop our youth but to pigeon hole them longer than necessary. Then you gave Patrick Williams a nice extension for some dumb odd reason when he's been subpar way before the extension. It is stupid! Finally, the elephant in the room is Billy Donavon. He's terrible! And should have been fired waaaaay before they secretly extended his contract. Look at the result of these asinine decisions. I want to see a better product than this. Wake me up when this nightmare is over, please!
Is it really in Mata's best interest, on a nationally televised platform, to have his shorts handed to him? Yes, Matas needs to play more, but there are other games better suited to get "practice time" in. As you noted, look what hypercriticism is doing to Giddey. It's glaringly apparent that Matas is not ready start any NBA game. Let the 19/20 year old acclimate before becoming a target of disappointing expectations.
WHIS IS DONOVAN STILL COACHING? He's horrible! How much talent has he had since he's been there? Championship winning coaches have been fired around the league since he's been coaching the Bulls but he's still got his job. An absolute trash organization.
Third! Also, I’m very excited for vuch and lavine to get traded. They’re taking away playing time to develop Matas, and taking away possessions from Coby white to cook and further develop. Management needs to make this Coby’s team
#11 pick not getting minutes is so wild to me, especially on a team that obviously isn't contending
Don Bill is a waste of our tallent
Same with Phillips. Idc if Craig did good tonight, I want the young guys playing
Don Bill is a waste of our tallent
I don't care about wins anymore. I just want Matas to get more minutes. They should've prioritize his development. He'll not develop into something if he's not seeing the court in a consistent minute.
Don Bill is a waste of our tallent
No kidding. He needs to be seeing the floor for at least 16 minutes I would prefer him to play at least half of the game. Let him get his legs under him, his confidence up and the experience
Fire Billy only way
Same story with everyone of our young guys. Stop supporting this team chasing play in tourney
@@swaymcthunder1219 no kidding, it's been oh let's try again! For years now! Like 1-6 mins for buzelis is criminal. You can see his promise but lacks confidence and doesn't want to look bad in his few minutes he gets. Once he's comfortable and has more time to work with his productivity will increase
because billy donovan. Thats the answer. It's been long overdue for him to go.
I don’t know why it’s not a unison agreement. How some people still defend him is baffling.
THANK YOU!
Yeah we need a developmental coach
This isn't just on Billy. Management wants to favor the vets to chase the playin again. Development of the young guys should be the main priority. Let the man make his mistakes. Let PAW make his mistakes. Ditto phillips and DT.
Literally one of the only things I think Billy does well as a coach is developing young talent. He just never has been given that opportunity to do that. And I am not a Billy d supporter at all.
I just wish we would just fire billy he’s so badddddddd
i had buzelis winning rookie of the yr until i realizer billy dont give him mins smh
The Bulls are weird. They've made questionable picks with their lottery selections in recent history. They gave Passive P the green light early, yet they're handcuffing Matas. He needs to get out there and get embarrassed a few times. The kid should be in there for 15 minutes per game right now.
Absolutely! At least 15 minutes/ game. How else will he learn?
They didn't really give PAW the green light. They essentially gave up on him after one year when they signed demar. Ya, he played minutes. But i just stood at the 3 point line. That isn't developing and giving him the green light. They never took off his train wheels. Like you said, and what I been saying all offseason, let these kids make mistakes. Let them learn on the fly from them. But as long as the united center continues to sell out, nothing will change.
I just understand Billy Donovan’s logic on Matas Buzelis the media should be asking questions aggressively about his development and that plan to develop him
it isnt about playing well. its about making at least the 1st round of the playoffs for the Reinsdorf to get that playoff money. i am pretty sure that is the main motivation. we can lose after the first round. they dont care. but as long as they get those extra 2-4 sellouts.
No excuses starting next game Torrey Craig probably isn’t playing we have to see matas 20 minutes MINIMUM
Josh giddey has been putting up stinkers lately
It’s because they’re “playing to win” and for some reason they think the people they’re playing currently are going to help them get there.
News flash: they won’t. Let the kid play
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If Lavine was brought in a bit earlier in the fourth, the 3pt attack potential would have been there, perhaps. Thanks
I think they playing him to give him a chance to up his trade value. The sooner the better, he might be included in a package with either Lavine or vuc
I'm just sick of Billy Donovan he is the issue and the front office.
One of MY BIGGEST "PROBLEMS" with the team is I want to see them with a different coaching staff before I pass too much judgement on them.
Even though I give Donovan credit for joining the 21st. CENTURY - FINALLY - I still don't like how he uses the players - or should I say, "DON'T" USE the players.
I'm sure if we will have the chance to have Flagg in our line up.. he will as well be bench under billy.
Because Billy ain’t a good coach man.. they’ve lost the plot rn.
I don’t get why Billy puts matas in early, then doesn’t put him in again😂 like he just plays less than 5 minutes in the first half most nights what a weird rotation
how can the front office not fire donovan or explain why buzelis is not playing more min
to be fair, Craig did good tonight even on defense, he was the only player the bulls have that hustle offense and defense, but everybody else was just low to none effort.
and let's be honest if you all just watch the game, it's like 45 points combined from Giannis and Lopez was an 100% easy bucket because of vooch's defense, just being real, this is what I said before, Vooch can average 20 points and 10 rebounds a night but will average 40 opponents points per game and 20 opponents rebounds per game.
Well said about Giddey
Because Jalen Phillips is really good like you say!
Buzellis minutes going to increase when Dalen Terry gets packaged or cut. If he adds a little weight, it’ll help him. He got that dawg in him.
I agree! How is J.Giddey getting 26min and M.buzelis gets 7....
It's weird how, before the season he was speculated to be among the most nba ready, now all we hear is he has to earn it, he's not ready... how does he earn it if he doesn't play. Let's face it, chicago is the worst place to be signed to as a rookie. If you ain't star level out of the gate forget about it
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It’s almost like AK is still scared to let go of trying to win and start again. We all want a rebuild. just commit!
Billy doesn't have much faith in his rookies no matter how good they are Matas does need more minutes to get better
Agreed!
A fine question..... Again...
They tryna get tht trade value up all the old people finna get the boot
The rookie and Duarte need more minutes.
THT needs minutes too. He’s still young as well
I agree screw the wins we're not that good, let's develop our young guys and try to trade/rescue Vooch and Zach asap because this team can't help those guys and those guys even at their best can't help this team win, let the youth play and the chips fall where they may
Because Billy and the FO are trying to win so they can bring fans in. They are prioritizing short term, shallow success over long term stable development.
The coach needs to get sacked.
Every other rookie getting the chance to cook even second rounders
Craig more minutes Than matas?!?!?!??!!
Bulls need to stop putting they younglings in n IEP class !!!!!!!!!
Because Billy Donovan doesn’t like to play rookies
I'm sure Matas will receive more PT after Xmas when the NBA season unofficially begins. By this time he should be familiar with the pace of play, and the talent level of the NBA.
I wouldn't have played the rook against the oversized Bucks frontcourt. They have a veteran lineup and he would've struggled on defense where all vets do is draw fouls and get to the FT line.
Been said trade the vets Soo as they got value before a injury. The time is now
Hurts more when im watching this go down with my own eyes😪 every time I go watch a bulls vs bucks game, we lose🧎♂️➡️☔️
They have drafted this guy to keep him in the dog house
The Bulls are lost and confused.
Move craig, vucc and lavine. Let the young guys run and sink or float.
It’s really bad. This is Matas opportunity to learn the NBA and become a better player and Billy just does not allow it…
Its a seniority thing.
Wzup bulls central hey do u think its hard for the bulls to play defense because they get called for a foul every time they touch somebody i mean i know there was some foul but do the refs have to call every fucking thing on them i think the game was called in the bucks favor because the game was on espn.
Because the bulls needs to blow up the team and give him the keys but they are scared
Billy Donovan is just like Aaron Boone, doing all shitty stuff and still keeps their job
Lemme guess. He doesn’t play D? Bad foot aside.
THIS IS WHY BILLY DONOVAN SHOULD BE FIRED. YOU DRAFT A GUY TO PLAY NOT SIT ON THE BENCH. AKME NEED TO TELL THEIR BOY TO GIVE THE ROOKIE MORE MINUTES.
Keep Torrey Craig in the lineup
Billy is silly bro he got a 6’10 sf/pf but don’t know how to utilize him
Because he's a project player that's why. Look how well they did with PW. And they gave him all the minutes in the world and he's still mediocre. Tonight's game was no different from the 1st game matchup the Bucks scored 122 pts again but White didn't score 35 to bail them out. Vucevic was outstanding doing his best statue impersonation best yet. Giddy has been taking shooting lessons from Ben Simmons. Listen we all know Giddy can't shoot very well he just needs to get others open shots and when he does that we have a chance. The game was on ESPN and the panel of so called experts were very honest on the Bulls dilemma. They are bad but not bad enough. Nobody knows what direction they are going in including the people who are running things.
Billy donovan is the problem period hope that guy gets fired asap
i think they're just desperate on getting rid of vooch and zach, trying to solidify their trade value.
Fire Billy
Billy Donovan don't like talent. This is the reason why Metas buzzelas can't get no playing time in the game
Bronny could've got more minutes
The Bulls just suck at this point. AK looks ridiculously confusing in his decision to trade away Caruso for a weak @$$ Josh Giddy, letting go of reputable and contributing players like Drummond, Javonte Green, DJJ, And of course Demar Derozan for what? Not to develop our youth but to pigeon hole them longer than necessary. Then you gave Patrick Williams a nice extension for some dumb odd reason when he's been subpar way before the extension. It is stupid! Finally, the elephant in the room is Billy Donavon. He's terrible! And should have been fired waaaaay before they secretly extended his contract. Look at the result of these asinine decisions. I want to see a better product than this. Wake me up when this nightmare is over, please!
Is it really in Mata's best interest, on a nationally televised platform, to have his shorts handed to him? Yes, Matas needs to play more, but there are other games better suited to get "practice time" in. As you noted, look what hypercriticism is doing to Giddey. It's glaringly apparent that Matas is not ready start any NBA game. Let the 19/20 year old acclimate before becoming a target of disappointing expectations.
Play the rookie
WHIS IS DONOVAN STILL COACHING? He's horrible! How much talent has he had since he's been there? Championship winning coaches have been fired around the league since he's been coaching the Bulls but he's still got his job. An absolute trash organization.
Third! Also, I’m very excited for vuch and lavine to get traded. They’re taking away playing time to develop Matas, and taking away possessions from Coby white to cook and further develop. Management needs to make this Coby’s team
Don Billy is to stubborn to develop young players , he should leave..
FO should hire Griffin instead.
Patrick Williams is bad anyway let’s just start Matas over him
He’s our only defender in the starting lineup we would literally have no defense
The Bulls´s coach just is not good. In nothing. Not good in thank, not good in developing, not good in winning.
Josh giddy 🗑️
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FIRE BILLY WTF