The Bulls Might Have a Josh Giddey Problem
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- Discussing the Bulls loss to the Cavs in the NBA cup and continued issues with Josh Giddey
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The real problem of the Bulls is that they dont have an agile and athletic center that is good at defense and can rebound. Drummond wouldve been a great help underneath but they released him. Management and the headcoach is more of the problem rather than the players.
They didn’t release him. He was a free agent and signed with another team. I don’t think Drummond would have been the answer in that regard either though
Atleast they kept him and offered him something so he stayed. Defense is one big problem with this team and Donovan is just too inconsistent that the team will get nowhere with him as the head coach.
He plays like a statue in the middle.
@@aragornn23facts, Donovan is trash
Man you so right bulls management don't want dominate centers they never used Drummond right and the coach can't coach.
lol after a solid start to the season Giddey has two bad games in a row and he is the problem despite most of the team, Nikola and Coby aside playing horribly in patches this season but hey Giddey is the easy target. Kids barely twenty and hasn't even played 10 pro games for the bulls yet....cut him some slack
He's getting plenty of slack. Opportunity, too. And Giddey has had four bad games in a row, those not being his only ones. Josh will get more "slack" if the Bulls go into tank mode. Maybe. He'll still have to earn and keep his position. The one he wants as a starting NBA PG. No one cares he's 22. He left Okc because he didn't want to come off the bench. So stay off the bench. Ayo is a role player, expectations for him are lower. This his fourth season, same as Giddey. He does his job, plays his role without complaint. More is rightly expected of Giddey who asked to be traded from Okc because HE didn't want to be a role player. Vuc? He's a center. Bulls have no other, really. He plays by default. If Giddey has s target on him? Its because he put it there himself.
@jdh9676 four bad in a row? He had two of his best games of the season prior to two the last two. Have you even been watching?
Prediction. We finish 10th. lose in the play-in. Miss out on our 1st round pick. Get fleeced on Vuce and Lavine trades. Lonzo gets injured again for rest of season. Giddy decides to sign somehwere else meaning we got nothing in return for Caruso. .................. you may think this is far fetched. but is it?..................... o and BD remains as head coach cuz we finished 10th.
Ngl that is 100% what is going to happen 😭😂
It's just....so Bulls!😭
Probably is exactly what we,’re headed for
Nah keep that same energy for Zach Lavine who was 4-16 and 0-3 from three for 8 points.
Exactly bro to easy to blame giddey he was on fire a few games ago
@ Facts
Thank you bro. Dude crumbles like the leaves on the trees every November. It’s like clockwork.
@ He needs to go!
@ unfortunately. But fr bro had a lot of years here to help build a culture. Not just be an “electric” player. No shade. The split is best for both bulls and Zach.
We put up a good fight against the cavs both times
I’ve been saying this but I think Ayo is a good choice for the main pg role
Giddey should guard 4's and slower 3's. Doncic can't guard either anybody at perimeter, but made it to a NBA finals. Giddey is a bad defender, but bigger problem is Donovan and his inability to hide it on defense!
You can't hide someone that bad
99% of teams do. How many players on the team were in foul trouble, how many shot poorly etc.
LaVine with 8 points.. ouch.
I attended this game. Zach had to play PG for 3 quarters. It’s pretty hard to play Giddey without a rim protector behind him. His offense is inconsistent and I understand better why OKC didn’t play him during playoffs.
Lonzo was working pre-game and wasn’t even using his right hand to get shots up.
yet AKME was gung ho on giving up Caruso for only him and no picks. lol. this is the trade that will go down in infamy. especially if OKC wins the championship and Caruso contributes what we expect him to.
Oh nice! The atmosphere seemed great at the game. Too bad the Bulls came up short
@@BullsCentral Yeah went to the Knicks then Cavs…and Joakim was right about Cleveland.
But MSG was electric!! Best place to watch a NBA game.
Okc did play him in the play-offs though. He was one of the reasons they beat the pelicans. He just had a poor series against dallas (basically all of the thunder shot poorly that series)
The defense is going to continue to be bad, I like what I saw from Patrick Williams, vucevic was good again he continues to impress me
Bulls Have no defense
oh man, the dude who couldn’t get any PT on a team is not as good as we thought him to be 🙄 this trade continues to look abysmal from an asset situation
He was a starter for the first seed in the west sir
@@kilodolla5034 he never ever played at the end of games when it mattered. They told him he was going to come off the bench next year. The were the number one seed and it wasn't because of him.
@@kilodolla5034and got benched and didn’t play for the first seed go figure
@RafiqWashington-tx7id look at the games SGA was out and giddey was playing. He was arguably the best player on his team when SGA was out and he was one of the reasons his team was the 1st seed last year
Giddeys and amazing player..let him settle you dimwits
Giddey problems? What about superstar zach with the 8 point game.
giddey has had a couple bad or mid games, zach has had 1 or maybe 2 of them (not mentioning the 9 assists zach had)
I was hoping to see someone else call out Zach too. Every year at this time. Dude starts a downward spiral. Look at the two seasons before this. It’s crazy. 4/16 ain’t it bro. Vintage “I’m gonna try and force it at the rack and scream for a foul that isn’t there after” Zach tn. Just when I was about to credit him for playing smarter hoops this season😂
@@big_mus he would have likely had 12-15 dimes if he didn’t revert back to that tryna take it to the deck stuff and scream for the foul. Overall he looks better this season. But after a game like tn.. woof. Same Zach doing Zach things. 😔
Blame the coach for putting him on Donovan at the start of the game and killing his confidence.
So sorry to hear about Lonzo’s injury update. Where did you get the 2-6 weeks from tho? All I saw was a tweet from KC Johnson saying he needs at least another week (granted: 2-6 is technical still correctly described by at least one…).
I never saw the point of trading Caruso unless you were getting picks, but whatever.
Zo's the bulls best 4th quarter point guard.
I ain't worried. We got this Bulls. Giddey be a baller
Wow everyone’s throwing him under the bus now
I mean….that was a pretty horrendous game for him
True, but who doesn't have bad games??? The hate for some players is ridiculous. 2/7, Levine 2/9, trae young last few games his played often starts slow and gets it going hot. Imagine if the stars start 2/8 and the coach sits them the rest of the game. then the next game they start cold and get benched again. Not a way to build a team or someone you got as a starter and leader of the team.
@@kristoffereberius2476 he's not very good. He's just fine. Accept it already. He's falling behind with the Bulls same as in Okc. The sample size is not small. He needs to be better. If games like this and being benched in the clutch of close ones doesn't motivate him to play like a starter and leader, what will? LaVine and Young have earned their positions in the league. The NBA does not bench stars unless a disaster. Giddey needs to earn that privilage, its not given. Have you seen Trae and Zach's numbers this season? Zach's game prior? You don't bench that! If Giddey could play defense guess where he'd be? On the floor! Or become a reliable shooter? Something...anything! Besides what? Passing the ball? Getting some opportunistic rebounds? The Bulls rolled out the red carpet for him, gave him the starting PG position. He has to be better, period. And consistent.
@@kristoffereberius2476giddey has always been a confidence player. Always plays great when confident. Coaches need to understand that
If the bulls don’t resign Josh this offseason my gosh that would be such a lose to trade AC and giddey doesn’t work out and you end up with nothing from it after this season
I tried to tell bull's fan's about the 30 million dollar man
Ayo need to finish every 4th quarter
I’m starting to see some growth in PW! Been looking way more aggressive and played like a point forward this game
Billy is a problem not giddey
Both kid..both
Surely the bad coaching from last and previous seasons is part of the problem. The whole team is known for bad defense. OKC had good team d, giddey could guide guys into chet or j will etc. everyone in the game was in foul trouble and Levine had a poor shooting game, previous Coby and others. If every lean run sends you to the bench and you stay there then how's he gets to shoot to form. Josh's shooting percentages and contributions are much different to those people want to see more of or are considered stars.
If the bulls are building for the future, trying to build team play, trying to develop younger players.....where is the proof of it????? The team started better than expected now everyone is expecting them to win even over the dominant teams. Overall they are over performing, the team defense is just straight up shit, from everyone not just giddey. The team has shown they are capable, they need direction and teamwork.
The problem is that we don't play freaking matas
An 8 minutes problem about Josh Giddey, they should just bench him then. Solved. Next problem please.
Yep, even Patrick improved but they look a whole lot better when Giddey is not out there 😬. His defense is so bad I can’t watch it. He doesn’t even get lower to the ground when defending. Like bend your knees. Get ready to defend bro. 🤦🏻♂️it’s like a highway when he’s defending.
He really doesn't bend his knees AT ALL. Makes you wonder if they're in bad condition and no one is saying anything
@@anthonychristianson411dude we are fans that watch basketball, but we are not even coaches. Like are any of the coaches see this?? It’s soo bad. He’s standing out there like a tree. No wonder he will be terrible. Like bend down a bit, make yourself wider, spread your hands. Smh, so bad bro
Giddey needs to be given the ball
He is and will be a problem. He doesnt provide nearly as much offense to dismiss his awful defense
Which is very concerning
Collectively, this team has terrible hands. There were at least 4-5 opportunities for freebies on the break and we either can’t control the ball or make a horrible jump pass that gets picked off. Each time It happened was when we were within a score or 2. That was a winnable game. Billy needs to stop leaving Julian Phillips out there so long. He’s what dalen was the past couple years. A complete offensive liability. 4 on 5.
Bulls should got 1st round pick for ac trade especially with giddy in hos final year than got pay him. Hope bulls don’t pay him he is horrendous on defense. The Good thing is bulls will definitely keep top 10 pick which is good thing.
Was at work but all i saw from the game is KC tweeting we came from a 19 point lead but then lost by 18…
Get rid of the coach and get a defensive minded coach.
Why do Chicago teams consistently for years always play from behind and have bad starts.
Or go up early big leads to have a team come back from down 20+ points 💀 kills me
I think Giddey has a chance to develop u just cant start start him with Zach Coby and Vuc that has to be the least defence in a line up with not that powered of an offence.
And to think Josh Giddy wanted that big contract I think he might be let go after this season if he doesn't start improving
The problem is vuc have no defense guy go to basket he just srand there with his hand up not go get it we need a rim protector bad asap that can block shot and can move his feet we can score but defense suck
He shouldn't be resigned.. maybe if we can trade him at deadline for 2nd rounder, would be fine with me. He just aint worth what he will be seeking 25-30M per.. he is very streaky shooter and unplayable in clutch, main problem of course disaster of Defence
Giddey sucks. I can’t believe this guy wants $30mil a year. Weak layups always getting blocked
Yes we know since Alex Carugoat was traded away for “potential”
Allow to bring up a painful trade day reminder
LaMarcus Aldridge for Tyrus Thomas
Not exactly that level but next season will be grumble volcano from me.. without Giddey improving
Here's my issue, we do an athletic center who can cover up a lot of mistakes on the perimeter, protect the paint and block shots., that's a fact that management doesn't seem to be addressing with any urgency. I would have put Carter in because he can be a pest defensively. Loved PWill playing point forward as a was a point guard in high school and did a really good job of play making, would love for BD to explore that. And why in the hell don't we run more 1/4 or 2/4 pick&rolls and let PWill dominate in the paint and pass out if a double team comes.
Yeah AK he's stupid asf and his basketball IQ as a whole is highly questionable
If I'm coach I'm scheduling the next practice at 6am and doing absolutely nothing but outlet passes for 90 minutes.
Ridiculous
Brutal for Lonzo that’s horrible
And Buzelis is like what 35 years old right? That's why he is not playing in this "youth" movement. Praying for the Bulls to lose as much as they can.
Giddey's the only one not playing ISO!!
Zach and Vuch are playing to be traded to a title contender. The rest, Cony, Ayo, Patrick, Giddy, all of them are playing at their peak level. Meanwhile Lonzo is a curse. My boys aren’t getting any better this season. 😢
Coby nowhere near his peak… he still hasn’t learned a lot of things abt the game and how to manipulate.
@ That’s terrible.
@@jermainesnyder2375 how is that terrible? it means he’s only 24 and still has more levels he can reach in his game. he’s already playin like this now, so once he puts it all together…
@@javares9626 So, Ayo has only 7-10 years left max to retire. He’s at his peak bro, maybe another 5% improvement at best. Look at Ayo, Coby, Giddy, hell all of them except Zach and Vuch, panic in the paint. They can’t score outside of a set play or fast break, otherwise it’s a guaranteed miss shot or another of many turnovers, that’s their weakness. They can’t create points like Zach and many other top players in the NBA because they’ll never be a top player, they just don’t have that high basketball IQ.
Bulls YMCA 🏀is impressing. I can't even remember anybody giving up 49 points in the 1st quarter. I don't know how any coach 🥴👈 {Billy} can get in front of reporters and explain the lack of defense once again. And even though Giddy was part of the problem they still gave up 144. Are you all still having fun.
Why does Zach completely fall apart every year at this time?? It’s uncanny bro.
Everybody calls Billy “ a players coach”. I call him a “JV coach.” Happy to see Pat playing consistently decent at least.
I saw the game and looks like giddey don't wanna play for billy donovan anymore
Hate when y’all blame players like the team is any good
Which is why I’ve said that the Bulls should’ve been in tank mode…there is nothing to play for they suck
every other game he's either hyped or called a bust :)
Shouldnt have traded for him. Id take Caruso 100 times every time!
Do you think Lonzo would be a case for a buyout at the trade deadline? If let’s say Bulls have traded away the pieces? Thoughts?
I don’t really see why they would do that, especially knowing how cheap this organization is, they would rather just let his contract play out than buy him out
@ to kinda help him out but I agree.
P.Williams #44 is a sore spot in the starting lineup, not a good scorer or rebounder.He provides no rim protection as a PF either.
Next couple of games lavine and giddey going to have big ones
billy needs to go and when need to make some sort of move before the trade dead line its becoming unbearable too watch i love this team but between bulls and the bears its getting tough thank god i atleast have the 49ers and golden state (my brother in laws teams) because im tired of the losing in chicago all of our teams are absolute garbage
wtf are you talking about this game was never close
Just say you didn’t watch the game. There were multiple lead changes leading up to the final 3 mins
No identity.
No mentor. AC and Demar drove these young kids. Only thing Zach doing is driving to the rack and then screaming for fouls after lol. He was looking smarter this year in the floor, but then it’s back to old Zach tryna be him too much.
Josh giddey trash
Josh whoo ? Trash performance 15 min on -27-/+ 😂😂😂
Ive never seen a more toxic fan base than the bulls. You will never be successful if you don’t support your players. And you all consistently find the negative in your players … Giddey is 22! Support him and see how good he can become from fan support and confidence
This ain't high school ball, 'bro. And Josh put on his Big Boy pants when HE decided not to remain on the team that drafted and developed him for three seasons in Okc. He told Presti...at 22..."At this point in MY career I'm not about coming off the bench." At that point? A player must earn fan support in the NBA. Even on a tanking team...which the Bulls are not...there are going to be fan favorites from week to week and team favorites as well. Josh has been a heavily played NBA starter for three seasons, well paid and taken care of. He has and gets all the support he needs and deserves. But he let himself loose in the shark tank of the NBA and the Bulls rolled out the red carpet for him. Bulls took the starting PG position from Coby White and gave it to Josh because he and our VP agreed it was his. He had and has all the support he needs every time he steps on the court. But he needs to earn it at this point. He's not a special player. Not Wemby or Chet. He's just one among many. In all honesty he should have finished out his rookie deal in Okc. He bet on himself? Fine. Wherever he goes now...if he wants to be a starting NBA point guard...he will be held to high standards worthy of the position. Idk where you been but we support our players in Chicago. We support Josh. But that support must be maintained by the player dependent on there role for the team. Let's hope Josh has an impressive game tomorrow. No one is even saying he's terrible or trade him. But we aren't handing the franchise to him and he can see the bench just as quickly as anyone else. Our starters today except Vuc, Zach, and now Josh have worked there way from the bench, and to the bench. Last two seasons PW was benched in favor of Caruso. Josh was handed his position. He must perform to keep it or face fair scrutiny.
Lazy clickbait title. Watch some games and do some real analysis instead of being a sheep and following all the other streamers weak narrative and analysis
Watch something else bro. I also came up with this topic