This is the BEST review. Mine is arriving today and I’m stoked! I’ve watched basically all the videos on TH-cam about the 4+ and this takes the cake. You covered everything! Thank you passionate DJ.
I ALWAYS enjoy your positive, honest, and in-depth reviews! I just got my Prime 4+ yesterday an upgrade from the Prime 2 and I love it. You are right DENON knows how to hook you in, I'm a fan. Every time I think about changing my eco-system DENON makes an update! It's like they are reading my mind #ScaryStuff!! Again THANK you for an awesome channel!!
I just secured mine!!! Im tired of PIONEER playing games i.e. xdjxz and not being able to use all 4 channels and the Opus Quad and that weird shape. Great vid fam!!! 10/10
This Controller would have been perfect with this features: - Bigger Jogwheels: 20cm diameter (like the Sc6000) - Jog/Wheel Adjust - Individual Key Sync & Bpm Sync Button - Mixer similar to the SC Live 4 or the X1850
@@djstuc sounds fine by me. I started on decks, dragging 3 turntables, mixer and 5 crates of records everywhere. I happily drag my beastly NS7's to gigs without complaint. There is a huge market for motorized decks even if it doesn't seem appealing to the mainstream. That's why different products exist. In Music made the Rane One using the numark TT motors just like on the NS7's, so I just hope for one more Mashup where I get a motorized controller running Engine. :) Until then I will keep using the NS7iii/serato.
Thanks for this nice video! Love your series a lot. Can you quickly check, if external sources now work with the EFX or at least Sweep FX? Before 3.1 only the Filters worked (afaik). Thanks! :)
i would love to see stems on the sc6000, a smart move would be to to separate the vocals&instruments thru the deck 2 outputs on the sc6000 device it will be a killer feature
Denon company has to add up digital sampler to the microphone section of the prime 4 plus, and will be the number one best controller in the world for all djs.
thank you for review ! 👍-- stems only in display ?LC 6000 Prime not have steam,no ?as a recommendation is it worth buying now or should we wait for the next version 5?the difference is only the matte color and steams on display vs prime 4?I ask because the price is quite steep, if it came with the virtual dj pro software...anyway, at the present time, the 4-channel console has no competition for what it offers.
I've been debating about the XDJ-XZ and the Prime 4. After a year of you getting it, what are your reviews for both boards? I am wanting to get one so badly, but have been debating for weeks after doing research for both.
@@johnnyvo5964 It's been a brilliant year with Prime 4 plus. First I had to get used to it a little bit but later I enjoyed it so much. It gives you so much more value for your money. Better sound quality, features, screen, connectivity etc. etc... All I can say is just go for it. Alpha Theta(Pioneer) nowadays only wants to rip you off and put on some stupid subscriptions. XDJ-XZ definitely feels like a 10 year old unit compared to Prime 4 Plus
hello PDJ, I would like to know if I buy this, would I be able to use my Apple Music library from my MacBook with no complications, because I don't see how I can put my Apple Music library onto a ssd, thanks!
Are you trying to play music directly from your laptop, on the Denon? Or are you trying to import your existing Apple Music (iTunes) files into Engine software, and export it to USB/SSD? Or are you trying to stream on your Denon from Apple Music? (Not supported)
I'm considering moving to the Prime ecosystem. Does anyone know: if I put a SATA drive in this thing, how do I transfer new tracks to that drive? Can I transfer from USB or do I have to take the drive out to load them onto it?
As far as I understand from doing it on mine: You have to transfer songs to the Denon Prime 4+ internal drive via usb hooked up to a computer. There are no options for 'copying' songs/folders/playlists etc from a USB drive to the Internal drive or vice versa. You do not need to remove the drive though.. it simply shows up as a drive when you connect a laptop.
@@DJSILKWOLF Thanks for the clarification. I actually went ahead and bought it anyway :) You do indeed just hook it up via it's own USB cable and run a sync from the desktop app
Sorry, I know someone from Pioneer DJ and they have no plans for adding Stems to the Opus. He was shocked that Denon was able to do it. Looks like it's over for Pioneer if you ask me!
There is no "The Best Standalone DJ System"! It depends on dj's needs, workflow and occasion!!! Is this a great product? Yes. Sure! Personally, I don't like the layout and I don't agree with the buttons with multiple functions. I also don't like controlling the length of a loop with an encoder. I want to press a button whenever I need to halve the loop especially from 1 beat down. You don't have precision at short times with that encoder. FX on/off is not close to the wet/dry level... And these are the main reasons why Denon players have not yet replaced Pioneer players despite the more advanced technology! Implementation is not ok. Under the stress of djing on a stage, you don't want that screen to respond to touches by mistake. That's why on the Pioneer screens you have to press, which indicate the presence of the intention to activate a function, or make a selection! Or press a pad thinking you are in hot cue mode while you are in pad fx or beat jump mode...etc. Of course, when you make a mix at home, there is no pressure and it's ok. Besides, my setup at home consists of Kontrol S4 mk3 and two F1, so I'm not necessarily a fan of Pioneer, especially in terms of costs. But I prefer them when djing at an event with a large crowd, where the light is weak, etc... So to the expression "The Best Standalone DJ System" you should also add "for me"! Sorry for the long comment and I hope I didn't offend anyone and anyway, this is my personal opinion!. I wanted to highlight the different needs depending on the event! I've been djing for over 25 years and I've been to both festivals and weddings, corporate parties, barbecues with friends, etc. and there are different situations with different needs! The problem is that everyone judges from their point of view and if you haven't mixed in all scenarios, it's easy to misjudge the other scenarios! Cheers! 😉
__ I was a pioneer user, I had enough of relating always of a third party software to organize my music player or be able to play like serato, rekordbox, etc.. since Denon dj prime 4+ came to the market I can play freely wherever I want, FX are great.. Steams in beta version has been removed in the last update for sure will come back steams and more surprises soon, if is complicated for you the new technology of denon dj prime 4+ it is to bad disappointed because is very advanced easy to use if you compare against the obsolete pionee dj.. Denon dj prime 4+ this piece of equipment has quality and gives you freedom to play anywhere in the world..
@@fabianSchweiz Right now, my setup is 2 x SC6000 and DJM A9. Gues what? I still have to use a software (Engine Dj) and beside this, that software is 2 decades behind! Sorry! Many workflow flaws with the SCs... I do my job with them? Ofcouse! No problem. But for advanced fast stuff... meh! At least they look nice! 🤭
Don't make no sense to buy the prime + when they could of just put the stems on the original prime 4..Also They could of gave the other denons the stems when you update to 3.1. They can do it..I'll wait...
Also the sample should of been when you can sample your dj tag or other music while playing music ...Come on denon stop playing..Hot cues will be perfect for a 32 beat sample
One thing denon has always done is one up the competition. I get pioneer is the industry standard, but denon is always innovating.
There is no such thing as "industry standard"
Everyone plays on what they like nowadays
This is the BEST review. Mine is arriving today and I’m stoked! I’ve watched basically all the videos on TH-cam about the 4+ and this takes the cake. You covered everything! Thank you passionate DJ.
A fantastic review, as always. My Prime 4+ is on the way! Woo hoo!
I ALWAYS enjoy your positive, honest, and in-depth reviews! I just got my Prime 4+ yesterday an upgrade from the Prime 2 and I love it. You are right DENON knows how to hook you in, I'm a fan. Every time I think about changing my eco-system DENON makes an update! It's like they are reading my mind #ScaryStuff!! Again THANK you for an awesome channel!!
Thanks so much! This truly means a lot, as comments like this keep me making these videos. Enjoy that PRIME 4+ ... it's sure to please!
@@PassionateDJ I'm just keeping it real. I have the Numark Mixstream Pro because of you. Ms. Ed Luva might be calling you to tell you to stop. 😂😆🤣
@@djedluva2021 😂😂 don’t be getting me in trouble, now
I just secured mine!!! Im tired of PIONEER playing games i.e. xdjxz and not being able to use all 4 channels and the Opus Quad and that weird shape. Great vid fam!!! 10/10
Enjoy!! You’ll love it.
Opus Quad is a straight up joke, theyre trying hard to rebrand to look like a designer dj product but fail
This Controller would have been perfect with this features:
- Bigger Jogwheels: 20cm diameter (like the Sc6000)
- Jog/Wheel Adjust
- Individual Key Sync & Bpm Sync Button
- Mixer similar to the SC Live 4 or the X1850
@@djstuc yeah? Like the Sc6000…
@@djstuc miss understood for my side, I Take a look at my Sc6000 and yes, you are right, the jogs diameter is 20cm, Miss calculations for my part
Agreed, 7" or 17-18cm => best compromise!
Just give me the sc6000m motorized platters on a prime 4 and take my money.
@@djstuc sounds fine by me. I started on decks, dragging 3 turntables, mixer and 5 crates of records everywhere. I happily drag my beastly NS7's to gigs without complaint. There is a huge market for motorized decks even if it doesn't seem appealing to the mainstream. That's why different products exist. In Music made the Rane One using the numark TT motors just like on the NS7's, so I just hope for one more Mashup where I get a motorized controller running Engine. :)
Until then I will keep using the NS7iii/serato.
Thanks for this nice video! Love your series a lot.
Can you quickly check, if external sources now work with the EFX or at least Sweep FX? Before 3.1 only the Filters worked (afaik). Thanks! :)
push!
i would love to see stems on the sc6000, a smart move would be to to separate the vocals&instruments thru the deck 2 outputs on the sc6000 device it will be a killer feature
I'm buying one. It's an awesome DJ Controller.
Really Excellent Review, thank you
I hope they can implement the stems in the SC6000 next year. It would make sense in my eyes because it’s a flagship product. Great review 👊🏾
🤞that would be killer
They will introduce sc6000+ when they have perfected stems
Denon company has to add up digital sampler to the microphone section of the prime 4 plus, and will be the number one best controller in the world for all djs.
Warning! effecs do not work with an external source ( line or phono )!
boo 👎
thank you for review ! 👍-- stems only in display ?LC 6000 Prime not have steam,no ?as a recommendation is it worth buying now or should we wait for the next version 5?the difference is only the matte color and steams on display vs prime 4?I ask because the price is quite steep, if it came with the virtual dj pro software...anyway, at the present time, the 4-channel console has no competition for what it offers.
Mine is completely frozen after trying to update out of the box. Hella bummed I can’t use it.
I got myself Prime 4 Plus coming from XDJ-XZ. Will see how it goes with Denon DJ ecosystem
I've been debating about the XDJ-XZ and the Prime 4. After a year of you getting it, what are your reviews for both boards? I am wanting to get one so badly, but have been debating for weeks after doing research for both.
@@johnnyvo5964 It's been a brilliant year with Prime 4 plus. First I had to get used to it a little bit but later I enjoyed it so much.
It gives you so much more value for your money. Better sound quality, features, screen, connectivity etc. etc...
All I can say is just go for it.
Alpha Theta(Pioneer) nowadays only wants to rip you off and put on some stupid subscriptions.
XDJ-XZ definitely feels like a 10 year old unit compared to Prime 4 Plus
Are the legs of this unit functional?
10:22 so you still can't connect 2 laptop to the controller where the USB ports located
Why would you do that? You literally have it on the unit 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
People say this is bad for scratching. Is this true? If so, what standalone has great scratching?
Ne One or Rane Performer.
Hey man just wondering if your waveforms on the screen when playing a song sometime lag?
Will be nice if add steams to prime 4
hello PDJ, I would like to know if I buy this, would I be able to use my Apple Music library from my MacBook with no complications, because I don't see how I can put my Apple Music library onto a ssd, thanks!
Are you trying to play music directly from your laptop, on the Denon?
Or are you trying to import your existing Apple Music (iTunes) files into Engine software, and export it to USB/SSD?
Or are you trying to stream on your Denon from Apple Music? (Not supported)
Tjis what i been looking for
The moment denon makes a stand alone with sc6000 jogs I am ditching pioneer
Lol
If one better and they use the 6000m jogs, I'm ditching pioneer and maybe my vinyl set up lol (maybe)
wondering how to add star rating into a track from the device, maybe you know?
This is unavailable at the time being. :(
Still no stems in stand alone
I'm considering moving to the Prime ecosystem. Does anyone know: if I put a SATA drive in this thing, how do I transfer new tracks to that drive? Can I transfer from USB or do I have to take the drive out to load them onto it?
As far as I understand from doing it on mine: You have to transfer songs to the Denon Prime 4+ internal drive via usb hooked up to a computer. There are no options for 'copying' songs/folders/playlists etc from a USB drive to the Internal drive or vice versa. You do not need to remove the drive though.. it simply shows up as a drive when you connect a laptop.
@@DJSILKWOLF Thanks for the clarification. I actually went ahead and bought it anyway :) You do indeed just hook it up via it's own USB cable and run a sync from the desktop app
does it work with Rekordbox?
No
It will read Rekordbox USBs
Once the pioneer Opus gets Serato and tidal and stems it’s over for this!
Denon DJ sure has a way of getting things to market just in time!
Sorry, I know someone from Pioneer DJ and they have no plans for adding Stems to the Opus. He was shocked that Denon was able to do it. Looks like it's over for Pioneer if you ask me!
@@Zsklar yuuuup!!
@@Zsklar if they add super clean stems to the 5000s and 6000s. Way before pioneer does. You may see more pros change their riders
Opus is nearly twice the price as the prime 4+
There is no "The Best Standalone DJ System"! It depends on dj's needs, workflow and occasion!!!
Is this a great product? Yes. Sure!
Personally, I don't like the layout and I don't agree with the buttons with multiple functions. I also don't like controlling the length of a loop with an encoder. I want to press a button whenever I need to halve the loop especially from 1 beat down. You don't have precision at short times with that encoder. FX on/off is not close to the wet/dry level... And these are the main reasons why Denon players have not yet replaced Pioneer players despite the more advanced technology! Implementation is not ok. Under the stress of djing on a stage, you don't want that screen to respond to touches by mistake. That's why on the Pioneer screens you have to press, which indicate the presence of the intention to activate a function, or make a selection! Or press a pad thinking you are in hot cue mode while you are in pad fx or beat jump mode...etc. Of course, when you make a mix at home, there is no pressure and it's ok. Besides, my setup at home consists of Kontrol S4 mk3 and two F1, so I'm not necessarily a fan of Pioneer, especially in terms of costs. But I prefer them when djing at an event with a large crowd, where the light is weak, etc... So to the expression "The Best Standalone DJ System" you should also add "for me"!
Sorry for the long comment and I hope I didn't offend anyone and anyway, this is my personal opinion!. I wanted to highlight the different needs depending on the event! I've been djing for over 25 years and I've been to both festivals and weddings, corporate parties, barbecues with friends, etc. and there are different situations with different needs! The problem is that everyone judges from their point of view and if you haven't mixed in all scenarios, it's easy to misjudge the other scenarios!
Cheers! 😉
__ I was a pioneer user, I had enough of relating always of a third party software to organize my music player or be able to play like serato, rekordbox, etc.. since Denon dj prime 4+ came to the market I can play freely wherever I want, FX are great.. Steams in beta version has been removed in the last update for sure will come back steams and more surprises soon, if is complicated for you the new technology of denon dj prime 4+ it is to bad disappointed because is very advanced easy to use if you compare against the obsolete pionee dj.. Denon dj prime 4+ this piece of equipment has quality and gives you freedom to play anywhere in the world..
@@fabianSchweiz Right now, my setup is 2 x SC6000 and DJM A9. Gues what? I still have to use a software (Engine Dj) and beside this, that software is 2 decades behind! Sorry! Many workflow flaws with the SCs... I do my job with them? Ofcouse! No problem. But for advanced fast stuff... meh! At least they look nice! 🤭
Don't make no sense to buy the prime + when they could of just put the stems on the original prime 4..Also They could of gave the other denons the stems when you update to 3.1. They can do it..I'll wait...
Also the sample should of been when you can sample your dj tag or other music while playing music ...Come on denon stop playing..Hot cues will be perfect for a 32 beat sample
No vale 2200 dólares, no mientas. Vale mucho más.
Still no RBG wave forms and adjustable jog wheels is a fat yikes...
Looks like they've just canned the stems for the Prime series
Can you share some more information on this? Thank you