WHAT DID WE LEARN ABOUT THE ABs? | NEW ZEALAND vs FIJI

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  • What are the takeaways following the game between New Zealand and Fiji in San Diego?
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  • @daggaboom
    @daggaboom หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    Tim, I didn’t think it was possible but I think you, an Englishman have managed to get South Africans and kiwi’s to love this game even more than the unhealthy levels we loved it at prior to finding you.

    • @timgregory82
      @timgregory82 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Great call

  • @robjolly2460
    @robjolly2460 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

    Proctor gives the ABs a different dimension that they haven't had since Conrad Smith. Uses space well and creates time for his back 3.

    • @andrewah-voa8408
      @andrewah-voa8408 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      hes not smith and being himself is a solid player and option, despite outstanding n possibly player of the day level tonite, there were a few times where he and ALB took the over carry option. He already went well with Jordie in super except in semis n we know that the chiefs(ALB n co dominated them , only to be outclassed by Rico n co n super finals)

    • @MeanAzz_13
      @MeanAzz_13 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Proctor's an awesome talent and is definitely going to be part of the A.B'z going forward, but to compare him to the great Conrad Smith after 1 game vs a leaky Fijian defence is a tad delusional 😂😂
      Maybe wait till Proctor faces better defensive teams before we make comparisons 😂😂

    • @marcdaniels9079
      @marcdaniels9079 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      England fan here. Savea is a legend and the rest is an embarrassment of riches …

    • @aircongosney
      @aircongosney หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I think ALB unlocked proctor, d mac and the all blacks backline tonight with better positioning. Proctor and ALB are a dominant and cohesive midfield.

    • @briancampbell6582
      @briancampbell6582 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Kiwi fan here. I think we still haven't unlocked our best centre combination yet, with this squad. Barrett and Proctor is a obvious one, as they know each from the Hurricanes. It's also which one can handle the rush defence.

  • @juliushenrymarx1960
    @juliushenrymarx1960 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    3 games, 3 wins, 0 cards. That's the most important improvement

    • @lord7th207
      @lord7th207 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I feel like the refs have eased up abit, World Cup final was the worst representation of how we want our game to be portrayed to the world, cards for ridiculous things so hopefully the refs aren’t so card heavy anymore.

    • @Raniera_15Gaming-e3x
      @Raniera_15Gaming-e3x หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lord7th207 look at austrailia vs georgia aussie coped a red

    • @jesseferguson4269
      @jesseferguson4269 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      The cards thing is the biggest improvement in my eyes. When was the last time we played 3 games in a row with not one card?

    • @lord7th207
      @lord7th207 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@jesseferguson4269 I agree it’s good to see, how good is it not hearing from the TMO every 10minutes

    • @scottnz411
      @scottnz411 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@lord7th207 agreed, I think the video ref has backed out of being so involved compared to the World Cup

  • @ladybugm6872
    @ladybugm6872 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I love the All Blacks, incredible sportsman and our respected competitors (South African), but I have to say that I am so excited to see Fiji being able to play a top team like the All Blacks, they can only learn and grow having such incredible competition. I absolutely loved them in the World Cup, what a great team, play with such heart and they can only grow. Very exciting having some great newer countries (though they have been playing for 130 years I believe, they became a competitive team at the World cup last year) joining us on the Rugby stage!! I am also excited to see them grow 😀

  • @iallso1
    @iallso1 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Ratima failed a HIA but hopefully will be available for the start of the Rugby Championship, but the other good news was Hotham playing really well on debut.

    • @broadside1944
      @broadside1944 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hotham played well if you think repetitive pointless box kicking is a good option!

    • @jlm0175
      @jlm0175 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@broadside1944broke the line multiple times, had crisp intentional passes, tackled, jackled, set up two tries and almost got one of his own and didn't do anything that cost us all on debut for much longer than anyone thought he would have to play....go have a nap grandad, Hotham was class

    • @Veinyone
      @Veinyone หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hotham played awesome for the Crusaders in the last few rounds, has a huge future

  • @JimmieCooper-le6vj
    @JimmieCooper-le6vj หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The new guys that came on,all did great.Proctor and Anton Leonard Brown looked great and played well together.Anton was just brilliant.

  • @JUSTCHILLIN862
    @JUSTCHILLIN862 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Becoming one of my favorite rugby channels 👍 keep up the good work brutha from New Zealand 💯🔥

  • @Pacificbertaboy
    @Pacificbertaboy หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I absolutely love watching New Zealand play in the USA. Chicago 2016, Washington DC 2022, San Diego 2024. I believe they are now working on an exhibition game with Australia to be played in Las Vegas next year 💪

  • @DavidSmith-yi8ou
    @DavidSmith-yi8ou หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    I’m confident Proctor will become the new starting 13 by the time we play SA this year.
    And Fletcher Newell, he is going to hold that no.3 jersey for a long time. What a scrummaging weapon that kid is.

    • @andrewah-voa8408
      @andrewah-voa8408 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Protoc will get other shots at 13 but the boys are putting the starting n match 23 team on notice n we have great props I say Tosi will be the bolter.

    • @henrypretorius1440
      @henrypretorius1440 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Will be tough 13 already has a key player Rieko is world class

    • @jacobh1867
      @jacobh1867 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rieko seems to be a protected player. He was average for the Blues all season, and continues that into the black jersey. Sooner he's dropped and told he's wing cover the better.

  • @kiwidamoplays
    @kiwidamoplays หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Well jealous Tim, those Bok AB games are going to be epic! ABs tracking nicely, competition for places is always good, loved Ardie leading the Haka, a warrior, and thrilled for Billy P, had a great game. Keep up the good work mate

  • @quinchin6200
    @quinchin6200 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Got to hand it to Razor and his coaching team - picked the right time to introduce new blood in key positions. The pleasing thing to see is they fronted up and did not disappoint. That will create competition and build depth. Next test Argentina. Bring it on !

    • @6fucyoutube
      @6fucyoutube หลายเดือนก่อน

      Early days

  • @aaronfitton9076
    @aaronfitton9076 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    I think the biggest issue that the ABs had last year was that they didn’t get as much impact from the bench, but it feels this bench is going to win them some games in the future by golly

    • @DrissZyani-bu5mo
      @DrissZyani-bu5mo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No team has their players depth any position

  • @jackiejones690
    @jackiejones690 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    6 new guys and were all supported to shine in their own way. The grand old boys stood up and did us proud as well. Go Razor 😊

    • @axxey
      @axxey หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Did Scott Barret do anything other than drop yet more kickoffs(5 drops from 3 games now) and give away yet another intentional off the ball foul play penalty?

  • @ObiePaddles
    @ObiePaddles หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I’ve always loved Billy Procter. A genuine 13. I get so frustrated with players played out of their position…even though the Barret and Iouane now play 12 and 13 in their clubs

    • @Scrotomus
      @Scrotomus หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Agreed. 2 great players that make terrible midfielders. It was so refreshing seeing the midfield making line breaks and setting up their outsides.

    • @colebedford7
      @colebedford7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Barrett was a 12 before being moved out to fullback… that is his best position imho… and Ioane was a world class winger I think that’s his best position

    • @MrWarkwark88
      @MrWarkwark88 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ioane is a winger and was moved coz we were short in centres

  • @rossdrury9426
    @rossdrury9426 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Jordie and Billie are the starting 12 & 13 for the hurricanes so they know each other well too!

    • @andrewah-voa8408
      @andrewah-voa8408 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      he is a solid player and option, despite outstanding n possibly player of the day level tonite, there were a few times where he and ALB took the over carry option. He already went well with Jordie in super except in semis n we know that the chiefs(ALB n co dominated them , only to be outclassed by Rico n co n super finals)

  • @harleylyons1889
    @harleylyons1889 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Clarke has come a long way from last year and has worked on a lot of his skills (defence and line running). In my opinion I feel he is a more of all round player and should start heading into TRC.

    • @markthompson7817
      @markthompson7817 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Clarke has a few advantages. His kick chase is excellent, something which we did not have enough of against England. He can knock holes across the advantage line, something needed against Englands rush defence. His in and out move in the try he did not score was pure classic winger play. He is the perfect balance against the style of other wingers. If he can get better especially with some one like Proctor inside him we could see something special develop.

    • @kelvinbrunton4780
      @kelvinbrunton4780 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And he looks very fit.

    • @drinkingup2157
      @drinkingup2157 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@markthompson7817 like your thinking there mate

  • @Scrotomus
    @Scrotomus หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Even Jordy has underperformed for the last 3 years at 12. ALB was outstanding at getting over the gain line. In my opinion they should build on ALB and Proctor who are 2 genuine centres with the perfect mix of defense and attacking X factor. Reiko back to wing and Jordy back to bench.

  • @Andy_M986
    @Andy_M986 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sam Darrie had a good game,he went looking for the ball,his support for the ball carrier was awesome.

  • @derekng9766
    @derekng9766 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Based on performances so far, if i was razor id be in a conundrum about Reiko. A class player that was most effective on the wing, but wants to play center. On current evidence both Procter and ALB look in better form for that position.

  • @tonyevans4060
    @tonyevans4060 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I was at Snapdragon to what the game. An exhibition really as Fiji made no impact on an exciting YOUNG AB team!! These exhibition style games are huge moneymaker’s- 33k+ fans at more than $100 a ticket plus tv and merch. The AB merch sold out and the booth lady said it was about a million dollars worth!! One amusing aside- Springbok fans came to wrong game as they were wearing their jerseys etc and were roundly booed by the 32950 Kiwi fans!! All good natured. You sho

  • @Shannon-ul5re
    @Shannon-ul5re หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Some awesome new talent coming through for the new NZ side.

  • @danschist
    @danschist หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Love your content and your passion for rugby shines through. It's also refreshing to have such unbiased opinions, (especially from a pom) 😉

    • @avi8ordude
      @avi8ordude หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’ve really enjoyed English rugby, their coach and their fans the past year. Up the poms!

  • @avi8ordude
    @avi8ordude หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The Fiji defensive system was very different to the English so made it easier for AB’s midfield to shine. Having said that, they still needed to beat the man and create space which was impressive throughout most of the game. Developing these new midfield combinations in the rugby championship must be the way forward.

  • @ginaterauna9845
    @ginaterauna9845 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Once again, another great analysis. Fantastic to see a new squad to create depth and competition. So proud of our new debutantes ❤

  • @rory7590
    @rory7590 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    A lot of focus tends to be on potential backline changes but actually, what was most interesting was the back five of the pack, which I feel is an area still in doubt for NZ. Some fans are calling for Savea to go to the open side, although we have seen little evidence that this is happening. As such, NZ have been picking bigger open-sides - this time Blackadder who has previously played Blindside. He did OK, although I’m not sure whether he will be in the starting team yet. It was also notable that Jacobson, who is equally versatile, was a target jumper at the tail of the lineout. This may also give him some selling points that he could challenge for a starting spot. Both Vaa’i and later Darry actually looked pretty good in the line out and around the field but the question is whether they would be physical enough against the Springboks. When Sititi came on for Savea he looked fully in control and influential - which gives some credence that a 6-2 split may be a worthwhile tactic if it gets more loose forwards like this in the game.

    • @markthompson7817
      @markthompson7817 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ah the old argument of Ardie to seven. It’s depends how they structure the combination. The style at the moment is a big burley seven who makes a lot of tackles in the style of Caine and Papalii. A blocker, enforcer and ball carrier at six and and a faster almost in the style of the old seven at eight. Putting Ardie at seven means he would be making a lot of tackles and sitting at the bottom of a lot of rucks and may negate his other gifts.

    • @austingtir
      @austingtir หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Blackadder is clearly the best 7 in NZ. (he was the link man to the backline in the Fiji game and was part of the reason the backs looked so good imo). Papali'i is the best tackler i put him at blindside because Finau isnt performing.

  • @andrewah-voa8408
    @andrewah-voa8408 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    great summary Tim, Caleb was one best wings with reece n narawa in super rugby n I missed him vs England. He n Proctor(the doctoc) were outstanding tonite n in super. great to see tamati, tosi n satiti(wish there was room for satutu too). ABs are treking equal with Oz new kiwi Oz coach at 3 n 0.Bring on the TRC.

  • @katatonickiwi8310
    @katatonickiwi8310 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    First of all, it wasn't England's defence we were facing so excitement should be tempered.
    Proctor has looked good all year and his Super Rugby centre partner IS Jordie, therefore we could see a swap for the Argentina Test matches at least.
    All 6 of the newbies did well.
    Ratima was just a concussion so it's just protocols for a couple of weeks, so will be available for RC. Hotham looked good, I think Christie just dropped another slot in the halfback rankings.
    Still scrappy, but for a new set up, and playing roster, feeling pretty confident of some serious improvements over the next 12-24 months

  • @surendemel8297
    @surendemel8297 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I hope New Zealand aren't pressured to peak too soon. They have a massive schedule ahead. Haven't beaten France recently.
    The interesting aspect is, NZ can play two different games with Jodie & Reeks, and a different game with ALB & Billy

  • @joeritchie2
    @joeritchie2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember when Caleb Clarke first broke on the scene I thought whoa! NZ has found the new Jonah Lomu! But that initial impression soon faded. I’m certainly not back to thinking about him in the same breath as Lomu, but his recent form shows what potential he still has, though he’s still maybe on AB’s next best winger as long as Telea is around.

  • @MauriceLeahy
    @MauriceLeahy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Billy Procter and ALB had outstanding first halves especially and will give the selectors some real food for thought . I would like to see Procter start at center and move Ioane to the wing for the ABs next game . Potentially very exciting

  • @murraysmith595
    @murraysmith595 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Kick off reception was horrible 2nd week in a row.... playing to much to pattern instead of eyes up.. many times hit the short flat runner at traffic, When there was acres of space if the right pass was chosen. ALB gave good go forward in midfield, Proctor is classy. Hotham looks a prospect for the future. Good to see Blackadder get through. Has been so unlucky with injuries.

  • @ElijahMan2633
    @ElijahMan2633 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Huge fan of Caleb Clarke

    • @rippedup1931
      @rippedup1931 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Overrated

    • @WhoAmEye187
      @WhoAmEye187 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Same he's amazing

    • @WhoAmEye187
      @WhoAmEye187 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@rippedup1931Jesus judging by your comments your Caleb's biggest fangirl

    • @axxey
      @axxey หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He's played far better than telea(all year) who teams are starting to realise is never in position for kicks and defends like a wet paper bag. Everyone(like Eggchaser here) loves telea's sideways backwards prancing he does before he loses or doesn't release the ball tho.

    • @RRSmurf
      @RRSmurf หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I enjoy his play, even moreso this year... What elevates him imo is how he took criticism for the past couple years and seems to have worked his arse off in the off season.
      Great attitude!

  • @symonyoung9388
    @symonyoung9388 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I learnt that lady was $hlt at singing the National anthem

  • @fl7907
    @fl7907 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The ABS centre's has been an issue over recent years. My issue is not having genuine centre's and having part time centre's filling in. ABS Teams are stronger when we have genuine centre's are playing e.g. Conrad Smith, Ma'a Nonu. Centre is a specialist position in attack n defence, can't understand how we can't fill in the position with full time genuine centre's. Let's pick genuine centre's for the next test!!

  • @garethpearce5255
    @garethpearce5255 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yeah good points on the TV coverage. You notice when they play in territories not used to rugby. Felt a bit amateurish. They probably should have brought some experienced operators in. Very interesting about Proctor, not sure what will happen there. I'd like to see Clarke play in the Rugby Championship. The game style probably suited McKenzie, SA will be the test, if he can play under that pressure.

  • @rory7590
    @rory7590 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    What would a Barrett/Proctor combination look like? It would look like the combination that played for Hurricanes all season, I’d guess!

    • @EggchasersRugby
      @EggchasersRugby  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haha, yep, fair point

    • @liberateyourslack
      @liberateyourslack หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That is, comfortably the best centre paring in Super rugby.

  • @helgard1983
    @helgard1983 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I beleive that England NZ Springboks and Ireland are on 99% of what a rugby team can achieve. Its a game of inches now between these teams...

    • @Trajan2401
      @Trajan2401 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Nah ABs can get a lot better.

    • @michaelrooks4030
      @michaelrooks4030 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don't really know what england achieved played 2 tests against abs and lost 2 zip ..yes I know they were close games

    • @icefarrow7959
      @icefarrow7959 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@michaelrooks4030 Really? The fact that they're able to play fast, attacking rugby against a team like NZ shows just how far they've come. If they tried that in the past, they'd have been monstered.

    • @ObiePaddles
      @ObiePaddles หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I was at the ABs vs Sprinboks in AKL when ABs put 50 on them and gave away no points. ABs can get a lot better, not sure about other teams but only as I dont know their potential.

    • @andrewah-voa8408
      @andrewah-voa8408 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      n France top team

  • @Paddythefatty
    @Paddythefatty หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jordie and Billy have been the 12 and 13 for years at the Canes. We already know what we are going to get.

  • @jacedaace01
    @jacedaace01 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great review. Agree with 100% of your points in regards to this match. Looking forward to the TRC commencing in a few weeks' time & your takes on the ensuing matches. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts...

  • @colinmeehan791
    @colinmeehan791 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Reiko is a wing,period.He has no idea how to run his wings into space.And he often dies with the ball,then gets turned over.

    • @jameshartzenberg5763
      @jameshartzenberg5763 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Havilli (12) and Proctor (13) will compliment each other well too. Leonard Brown (12) and Barrett (13). Rico @ wing please if he is not playing with either Havilli/ALB/Proctor at inside center.

    • @markthompson7817
      @markthompson7817 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Reiko, started with immense potential at 13. But he just never got better. He does all the off the ball stuff really well but (having played wing at provincial level, so this is an area I watch carefully) I would hate to play outside him. I used to say that about ALB but something’s changed. The professor once said that people should,learn to follow ALB, no one seemed to able to do that, then along came Proctor or is it Razor and Co,s influence?

  • @DPRoberts70
    @DPRoberts70 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a Kiwi living in Canada, I totally agree with your comments on the tv camera work.
    North Americans don’t understand the game and there camera work is awful… if they what to sell the game here…World Rugby is going to have to sort out their North American broadcasters out

  • @korocam9137
    @korocam9137 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You forgot to mention Fiji beat England at Twickernham last year. Jordie Barrett and Billy Proctor are a very strong combination for the Hurricanes.. what about the debut for young Noah Hotham who had to come on before half time after Cortez was injured? The All Blacks have good competition in the front row, and have identified a promising young lock. 👍🏽💯🔥

  • @davejordan267
    @davejordan267 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Semi radradra I reckon would've been more impactful in the midfield. It was frustrating that Fiji didn't exploit him getting pill more cause when he got pill and carried we saw glimpses of what he can do. Hard luck tho Fiji.

    • @subbie5498
      @subbie5498 หลายเดือนก่อน

      were the main fiji guys not available?

    • @WhoAmEye187
      @WhoAmEye187 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@subbie5498they had all there best players plus were playing the all blacks b team

    • @subbie5498
      @subbie5498 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WhoAmEye187 so tuisova isn't there best no botia no yato none of their main wingers

    • @WhoAmEye187
      @WhoAmEye187 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So what cupcake? All blacks played there b team ya muppet and as if those players would have made a diffrence lmao​@@subbie5498

    • @axxey
      @axxey หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Super unfortunate Fiji lost Frank Lomani quite early, big hit to organisation.

  • @Tom_McMurtry
    @Tom_McMurtry หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Barrett and Proctor both play for the Cane's and looked fantastic as a combination this year.

    • @nvwcj22
      @nvwcj22 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Proctor yes, not convinced about Jordie. He's been average.

  • @ProjectFrugal
    @ProjectFrugal หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Centres and Locks are our (NZ's) current issue but it's looking like these areas are being addressed. We have depth across the entire park and we'll only get better IMHO. Christie has been superseded by others and Reiko is on the outer now due to form.

  • @sox7784
    @sox7784 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Going to be interesting who Razor picks for Argentina great to see new faces love it ❤❤❤ CC back on the wing !!! Will he get to play the next test???

  • @bigceasar169
    @bigceasar169 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clarke and Will Jordan has to be starting wingers from this upcoming championship Proctor was very impressive

  • @benmoore8911
    @benmoore8911 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, your insight and knowledge on rugby is impressive. Looking forward to the rugby championship, go the All Blacks!

  • @deanreardon
    @deanreardon หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for the coverage. Always tune in to get your point of view after the matches

  • @ontheblock40hot11
    @ontheblock40hot11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I hope the games in SA u see are amazing cause what an atmosphere

  • @Edgycoo
    @Edgycoo หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    All our debutants are awesome. And with ramtima, roigard and noah from nowhere, our hb is now stacked. Sititi is a star and we have the best scrum. Bring it. Will jordan to return. Just our lineouts lacking retallik type height. And our centre lacks punch and dmac kicking not the worlds best. But good with ball in hand. But under razor, good guidance hopefully. A team can be made.

    • @oldblack15
      @oldblack15 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Darry played ok. Josh lord injured atm. A Dutch player coming through the ranks. All 2mtr+

    • @oldblack15
      @oldblack15 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ALB and proctor both punching through the gain line

    • @lockk132
      @lockk132 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Plenty of young big locks around ,just need to pick them

    • @Edgycoo
      @Edgycoo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@oldblack15 yep darry was great

    • @markthompson7817
      @markthompson7817 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Darry, Lorde…

  • @Darkside.315
    @Darkside.315 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Billy proctor and jordie barrett both are team mate in hurricanes squad. Interesting to see both of them at 12 and 13 in black jersey

    • @nvwcj22
      @nvwcj22 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'd go Proctor & ALB combo. Jordie's been average.

  • @lord7th207
    @lord7th207 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1. De Groot
    2. Aumua
    3. Lomax
    4. Barrett
    5. Darry
    6. Jacobson
    7. Blackadder
    8. Savea
    9. Ratima
    10. Dmac
    11. Telea
    12. Jordie
    13. Proctor
    14. Will Jordan
    15. Beauden
    16. Taylor
    17. Tosi/Williams
    18. Newell
    19. Vaii
    20. Sotiti
    21. Hotham
    22. ALB
    23. Ioane

  • @jackdarby8904
    @jackdarby8904 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    From a kiwi, Great game and some real positives to take. Will Jordan to come back adds to the depth in wing/fullback. Like you mentioned scrum-halves have terrible luck with injury. I can't wait for the Rugby Championship.

  • @simonmaney3438
    @simonmaney3438 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Reiko's been copping it a bit here in NZ, and Billy Proctor's performance hasn't helped that, but... England really tested the All Blacks - like Fiji can't - and I think Reiko will be able to show his class against Argentina.

  • @donnybrascocoliogne819
    @donnybrascocoliogne819 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A NEW A.B ERA UNDER A NEW COACH N STAFF.....So far its 3 wins from 3 games, ARGENTINA N AUSTRALIA "Should" be a WIN expected. However S.A and the End of year Tour to the Northern Hemisphere is our main STAMP games to see how far we are compare to the big 5 in this new era
    This is why the All Black's have "DEPTH" in players to choose from, its getting and picking the "RIGHT" players that needs to be ACCURATE in picking for the positions. RAZOR and his Staff for me are the right people to put the ALMIGHTY ALL BLACKS back at the top and winning games towards the next RWC in Australia and beyond, but taking it game by game ❤👊🇳🇿👊❤

  • @alangrant5278
    @alangrant5278 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Razor Robertson has been vastly successful with taking the Super Rugby title with the crusaders all 7 years he coached them

  • @Billcali
    @Billcali หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The AB's are definitely lacking retaining the ball in the ruck and Their number 7's have almost had no ruck turnovers in their 3 outings. That's a huge problem..
    Ps I think ALB has to be considered as a starter.

    • @brentwithey4241
      @brentwithey4241 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Daulton did well at the breakdown against England he put so much pressure on England and made his tackles felt. Blackadder is not aa 7 more a 6 he never pressured fiji and by gosh he missed a lot of tackles. Keep playing Daulton he will go from strength to strength he just needs a run of tests.

    • @killin.479
      @killin.479 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brentwithey4241 are you misspelling Dalton's name on purpose?

    • @markthompson7817
      @markthompson7817 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@brentwithey4241agreed. Dalton is way ahead of Blackadder. Black adder is the fly in the bottle of the loose forwards. Dalton is a rock.

    • @markthompson7817
      @markthompson7817 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@killin.479can’t beat a pedant on a good day. We all knew what he meant.

  • @jlm0175
    @jlm0175 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Blackadder was our best loose forward if youre going on actual workrate. Ardie was solid and had a couple of bursts in typical beastmode fashion but for that entire 80 ethan was a defensive powerhouse. He didnt really let anyone get the better of him and was so quick to just go atraight over people

    • @troyocarroll
      @troyocarroll หลายเดือนก่อน

      He missed 4 tackles from 11 - defensive powerhouse? If he's the best loose forward the others must have been rubbish. Leave your bias at home and evaluate honestly.

  • @fossilmatic
    @fossilmatic หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The “same page” cohesion looked less like a new style and just more of the old in the first two tests against England. No discernible innovation in the gameplan as yet.
    The midfield did distribute and carry better, but they didn’t have the rush defence to contend with, which makes the difference moot. ALB was the standout in creating front foot ball after the collision. Clarke has improved his defence and got involved with good angles. He offers more out wide as a power winger than Telea.
    DMac looked better and his goal kicking is becoming very consistent, which we’ve lacked in the last six years. Still kicking aimlessly when playing for territory, which B Barrett should cover as first receiver when pressure is on.
    Ratima provides better service and options than Christie, and should jump up the ranks.
    Jacobsen provided the other target we need in the line out and was excellent around the ruck. Blackadder coughed up the ball running away from support and getting isolated too often early on and doesn’t look a 7 in cohesion with the other loosies. Va’ai was very good in the breakdown and in loose play, providing plenty of front foot ball. S Barrett still indulging in play off the ball in costly instances.
    The tight five looked very good and you can see a ”bomb squad” developing for the Bok tests. Lots of depth there.
    There is still a lack of cohesion and understanding of roles around the defensive line under pressure in our own 22. You often see lead, flat footed forwards in the attack line slowing down the distribution without causing confusing pictures for the opposition defence (see what Ireland did to the Boks), but then they are not filling out the close quarters on defence, leaving backs to scramble to fill holes and leave space for cross field kicks out wide. We’ve been caught out by this in all three tests. Defensive and attack coaches have to step up and sort that out.
    Finally, after seven years of moaning about countering the rush defence the ABs are not seeing the advantage of joining the party. They let Fiji have space to run both cross field and straight far too often. This is where the three big bodies in the loosies costs us. The second channel is where you see DMac making far too many tackles to close down opposition motion. Again, that’s when you want to see mobile forwards in the line, rather than as second and third receivers on attack.
    Even at 47-5 it was a mixed performance and leaves a lot of doubt leading into the Rugby Championship. Argentina will be well drilled as we saw against France and can capitalise on the weaknesses above.
    Who will Razor pick to start next time? I think it’ll be conservative and he’ll go to players he knows better. He’s talked openly and frequently so far, which Kiwis find refreshing, but the onfield performances haven’t matched the rhetoric so far.
    Jury remains out. I suspect after the Capetown match we’ll have our first real idea of how it’s all going.

    • @Patrick8804
      @Patrick8804 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Blackadder was disappointing. Jordie looked mentally fatigued when he came on. Well, he played like that anyway. He looked a yard off the pace. ALB had a field day playing in his natural position of 2nd-5 where he's so good at running the inside channel. Proctor is a natural centre whose instinct is to pass the ball and set up his wingers, even when he made linebreaks. He won't let the black jersey down but he's no Conrad Smith or Bruce Robertson.

  • @racketman2u
    @racketman2u หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think that Clarke proved what we suspected, that he is now more effective than Telea. Brown had a very good game, too.
    The newbie forwards looked good, a bit more mongrel perhaps, but our lineout and maul still need work , and DMac's box kicks still ineffective; which begs the question; do we really have the best coaches?

  • @rodeo4786
    @rodeo4786 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Proctor had a good night given the opportunity to utilize his full range and hard running which is what an international 13 should do however the Abs backline generally had the license to use the time and space to their advantage but against a brickwall ie England. SA Ireland France then the space is narrowed considerably good win tho

  • @KanineMinor94
    @KanineMinor94 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rieko might find himself as the odd man out down the track. Loved the ALB/Proctor combo but cant see ALB starting, only because Jordie is vice captain. Once Jordan's fit and back at 15 then ALB and Beaudy would be great in resuming their bench roles. Hoping Clarke cements the starting gig and that Narawa gets a proper shot to stake his claim as well

  • @markrutherford6010
    @markrutherford6010 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    NZ has got some very good young halfbacks.Ratima and Hotham are very good.
    Speed of pass is very important for the All Blacks.Christie and Perenara passing is not good enough.
    Start ALB and Proctor against Argentina.Clarke has been good all season long.
    Tele’a is very good player.I think he might of lost some pace.Clarke is definitely quicker.

    • @Pacificbertaboy
      @Pacificbertaboy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed NZ definitely have great halfbacks at the moment. Ratima, Cam Roigard, Hotham and TJ Perenara. Deadly quartet

    • @nvwcj22
      @nvwcj22 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed! Argentina have strong solid bodies. They play rough. Need Clarke & Reese in the wings.

  • @joedennehy386
    @joedennehy386 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It was nice to see the ball being spun along the backline. The loosies played well. Cody is not the best hooker anymore. Ratima is now number 2 behind Roigard I reckon. Centres were great. Sorry Reiko

    • @garethpearce5255
      @garethpearce5255 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, I think it's time to move on from Taylor.

    • @khankake9576
      @khankake9576 หลายเดือนก่อน

      With Roigard unavailable. Christie has to step up.

    • @markthompson7817
      @markthompson7817 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@khankake9576Christie is ordinary. The passing from the deck of the two half backs last night was noticeably faster. Really important when we face the rush defences to come.

  • @samuelcecil9273
    @samuelcecil9273 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great review and to the point no glossing over it big room for improvement - Cody ? could be replaced and also at 10 should dmac need a rest than we are looking for a fly half as bodie will be receiving a pension come rugby wc but I thought blackadder reminded me he’s all knees n elbows and Clark for Reece hnmmmm
    I am a Uk based kiwi so I too go up at 4am with 35 minutes played cheers eggy

  • @stefanbaldwin1649
    @stefanbaldwin1649 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jordie Barrett and Billy Proctor play 12 and 13 at the Hurricanes!

  • @kaimaiiti
    @kaimaiiti หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    NZ have never given "man of the match" because it's a team sport. Some other broadcasters do man of the match and make the choice by the 75th minute which is ridiculous. My impression is that some broadcaster just picks their favourite without data... choosing a recognized star rather than the best performer.

  • @aymericboulle6813
    @aymericboulle6813 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jordie Barrett plays with Ioane at Club Level with the Hurricanes. Could be huge as a combination. And the wingers.... considering Will Jordan is still out for the moment..

  • @gjreedy9526
    @gjreedy9526 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Barrett Proctor for me. Combos are more important than best player. They play at the hurricanes so know each other a bit better.

  • @aircongosney
    @aircongosney หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I hope they dont play barrett at 12 anymore. Tends to miss opportunity and kill the rythm of the game. We saw proper midfielders tonight. Jordy could be super sub and cover backline, but dont see what he brings beyond the top specialists. ALB and proctor, have more natural rugby sense and decision making - they run better lines, make better offloads, tackle just as much and surely between the "duel pivots" ABs dont need jordys boot starting.

  • @makatawhs
    @makatawhs หลายเดือนก่อน

    NZ have so many options…
    Roigard to return, Roigard starts.
    Jordan to return, Beauden or Jordan at 15?
    Clarke or Telea?
    Rieko or Proctor?
    Sititi to 8? Ardie to his preferred position at 7?
    Btw Add Friszel and Mounga next year.

  • @deliamcleod1165
    @deliamcleod1165 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Centre, well Proctor, Barrett and ALB great in the position, Reiko is great but not necessarily a great centre, I can't think of another country which has the problem of what to with a talent like Reiko who is being outplayed in his position, because if you look to move him back to wing, who do you drop? Jordan, Telea, Reese, Clarke? not likely.
    I know how much you love DMac but I'm still not convinced, his decision making can be at times suspect, especially in his kicking game, in my opinion he's a little like Carlos Spencer, flashy, talented but ultimately couldn't make that last step up against the very best teams.or temper his own style to fit the needs of the game he was playing and the team he was playing with. It's a worry that his best performances are not against South Africa, England, France and Ireland.

    • @joedennehy386
      @joedennehy386 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There's a bit of truth in what you say, slightly flakey

  • @MorgMorg-uf6ps
    @MorgMorg-uf6ps หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the wide angle camera shots😂

  • @hankgoldenshaft
    @hankgoldenshaft หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was at the game it was truly a great event for all the expats living over here. The F35 flyover was absolutely sick

  • @madyak222
    @madyak222 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Razor has Huge expectations from the NZ public to, either maintain or up what is already the highest winning percentage of any team in any sport in the world. Which must make him a little nervous, and probably part of the reason he is easing into his coaching tenure with the All Blacks. I think this teamAll Blacks/including coaching staff have at least two gears they can ratchet up. I don't think they are playing to their highest ability or with the confidence to do outrageous moves to: several score rapid fire tries; or completely turn a game against a Peer team around with one amazing play after another, at this stage, but it's only a matter of time. Go the AB's.

  • @axxey
    @axxey หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Proctor so great... But Anton Lienert-Brown wrecked him in this game, just as he has all midfielders, all year, in every single measurable metric. Other than playing Jordie as a kicking option this midfield is much better.

    • @198746779838
      @198746779838 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yea i thought ALB had a better game than Procror but both really good.

  • @phillipmiga3961
    @phillipmiga3961 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All black defense improves good to see them transitioning to the newly effective rush defense

  • @Andy_M986
    @Andy_M986 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It was Fiji mate, I didn't expect them to push the ABs,wish they could have,but realistically, perspective.

  • @dalewarren9885
    @dalewarren9885 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Will Jordan is the best right wing on the team, will be back from injury soon.

  • @alangrant5278
    @alangrant5278 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s only our first few games since the RWC (let’s not mention the RWC).

  • @kevinrombouts3027
    @kevinrombouts3027 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good comments. I thing ALB and Proctor ate a better bet than Jordie and Reiko. I would like to see Reiko back on the wing. You didn't discuss the forwards outside of Ardie Savea.

  • @markorourke5901
    @markorourke5901 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't think you can put too much emphasis on our win, you will see a totally different game when we play South Africa, Aussy, or the Lions. it will be a much more even game and will be bloody tough for the ABs. then you will see them dig-in hard.

  • @aaronmckechnie4467
    @aaronmckechnie4467 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Incessant!

  • @Edgycoo
    @Edgycoo หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Remember Fiji went 24-30 vs England. Beat Australia. 34-17 Vs France. I thought fiji didnt fade as much as i thought they would.

    • @subbie5498
      @subbie5498 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      that fiji was more stacked though tuisova botia and the wingers

    • @Edgycoo
      @Edgycoo หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@subbie5498 so was nz. As we are missing, retallik, sam whitelock. Sam cane. Aron smith. Richie mounga. Will jordan. Can roigard.

    • @subbie5498
      @subbie5498 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Edgycoo you can't count retired players they also could only prepare for 2 days

    • @Edgycoo
      @Edgycoo หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@subbie5498 lol. We dominated a team that others struggled a little more to put away. Both teams played well. I see a trend of saffas , irish English all saying we are missing xyz players. Everyone is. Abs are looking likely to come good . Positive motion

    • @jdhif
      @jdhif หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's our playstyle, it's not just like this against Fiji, Italy and other tier 2 nations aswell. We just always put close to 50 against tier 2 teams even when they are competitive against pretty much every other nation

  • @nzfreeski
    @nzfreeski หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wait till Will Jordan is back, along with the return of Mounga and frizzel -not to mention Cam Roigard

  • @rabbitss11
    @rabbitss11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fiji were without a few of their star players but, yeah, the AB's are starting to look a little bit more cohesive although for some reason this week's issue seemed to be catching the ball at re-starts.

  • @goonbosstv5349
    @goonbosstv5349 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Want to know what Barrett and Proctor look like as a combination, just watch any number of Hurricanes matches over the past few years.

  • @mariusstrydom3667
    @mariusstrydom3667 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At the moment the All Blacks are the best team and I can’t see the Boks winning a game against them. They are good at the break down and the backline very good. Mckenzie and Barret very dangerous.

  • @matakitaki1
    @matakitaki1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    IMO, by looking at defence abilities you easily pick your team.

  • @nickstjohn72
    @nickstjohn72 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice one eggy

  • @WhoAmEye187
    @WhoAmEye187 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Anton is a much better 12 then jordie as he actually does more then just pass or kick 😂

    • @nvwcj22
      @nvwcj22 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah Jordie's lost his spark.

  • @whakatane6298
    @whakatane6298 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Billy Proctor feeds the wingers better
    Jordy Barrett is over rated
    Satiti is just waiting to be unleashed
    Tosi is impact
    Narawa needs to be outside Proctor
    Will Jordan, Taukieaho and Roigard will just make this team even more lethal

    • @brentwithey4241
      @brentwithey4241 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      jordy isn't overated at all. His carrying is strong tackling is amazing. Kicks well and he is hard working like a forward at the breakdown. I don't know why people are on his case he performed strong against England considering the slack ball from 9 and 10. Would like to see both ALB and Proctor given a chance outside him though as I see that as exciting

    • @nevillepieterse9983
      @nevillepieterse9983 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jordi overrated?

    • @AllBlacksNZ
      @AllBlacksNZ หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Your wrong about Jordie, but your right about everything else…

    • @oldblack15
      @oldblack15 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Narawa always seems to be dropping balls or just out of position. Him and talea back to provisional rugby with work ons. Probably Reiko as well?

    • @nzfreeski
      @nzfreeski หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brentwithey4241agree completely - Jordie is so important in big physical games

  • @graemehuia5964
    @graemehuia5964 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finlay where are you? We need you back.

  • @kitdyer8968
    @kitdyer8968 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Newbies played well will be Proctor LBrown combination will be locked in for the ABs in future match

  • @Ebendejongh1
    @Ebendejongh1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Their game flowed and seemed to fast for fiji to defend.

  • @huepix
    @huepix หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I thought we (NZ) looked pretty ordinary.
    Savea is like Superman.
    A.L-Brown played brilliantly as did Proctor.
    D.Mac looked vulnerable.
    A lot of players coming back for the rugby champs tho.
    Would love to see the bosses allow Mounga to play.
    Player of the day goes to the venue, and the people of San Diego for a brilliant spectacle.

    • @stephportablepagan8759
      @stephportablepagan8759 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mounga is not available. Currently on contact inJapan

  • @MrWarkwark88
    @MrWarkwark88 หลายเดือนก่อน

    True test will be the two Sa tests in Sa then end of the year England Ireland and France in a row …

  • @diarmuidquirke4604
    @diarmuidquirke4604 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man I stayed up for the game thinking it would be closr 😢

  • @guesswho6925
    @guesswho6925 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How good is that All Black scrum! Massive world class props