TH is the best. Well rounded reviews. With such passion and charisma it's no wonder why they're absolutely the premier car review channel on YT. I've been a fanboy for longtime and its great to see this conversation take place.
A family friend let me drive his standard M2 DCT before it was sold off, even when it’s my first time with that car and I could already drive it at seven tenths in MDM mode. I have not driven any front engined car made in the last 10 years that requires this much effort yet is so rewarding at the same time. Best part is it never feels overly scary even when the tail starts to kick out a bit. I really fell for the M2. And there was some actual feedback coming through the wheel too.
I’ve had my OG M2 since February of 2024 and have put nearly 25k miles on so far. It’s been a blast. I really wanted the M2 Comp but I got a really good deal on my OG. M2 Comps with no accidents and low miles we’re selling for $12-17k more than the OG and I just didn’t think the difference was worth that much
@@sdgsdgsdg54 probably. I didn’t have much seat time with the stock intercooler. I did the chargepipe, intercooler, downpipe, and tune in the first week of owning the car. The stock one was tiny compared the the 6.5” I put in
Mainly due to the noise and "M tax " on engine parts. Furthermore, as a young adult, ive seen all my peers fixated on numbers (0-60, 60-130) instead of the character of the car. My current daily is a 2006 Honda Accord Euro r, and I smile ear to ear driving that car. 😂
Love my OG M2 for dual duty usage. At an instructor pace, you can hammer it all day with minimal modification. There are definite benefits to the OG over the comp. It’s the perfect mid-level track car that can be daily driven and have kids in the back!
It is the same as far as part numbers but the Competition has a strut brace where OG does not. It is hard to explain how it drives differently, it's either weight or they revised some of the unchanged part numbers during the LCI.
I have a M235i 6spd Stage 2 Tune, one thing i hate the most is the power band. Either Stock or tuned, it has too much down low torque and no top end. It dies at 6000 rpm and i have 1200 rpm left, wish it was more linear. Ive spun out a couple times cuz of it 😅
If you have an F87 get the MP coilovers and adjust them to softer settings. He’s right the standard suspension is really awful. It totally transforms the car.
@ The comp has same suspension, so same issue. It’s a bit faster but the engine is prone to more potential issues. Mines gone now replaced by a Cayman 718 S, but the M2 was a good driving tool when the standard suspension is upgraded.
Good to know on the top mounts. We need a couple degrees of camber in the front to fit our new square setup - any advice to keep the noise down with top hats?
I have öhlins r&t with stock mounts, perfect for the road but not enough camber for the track with the stock hubs. So I upgraded to the camber correction hubs from BMW, now -2.5°C camber up front. I had Millway street top mounts before but found them still to produce to much NVH.
AST CO's are absolute garbage. I had to rebuild mine after a few days at Laguna Seca....then the guy I sold them to had to rebuild them twice before giving up on them...trash
@@bmwblog Infamous S55 crank hub held together with friction ring and hope, instead of being keyed. 10 long years BMW knew about the flaw and refused to revise it because it would be admission of guilt.
@@jonathanwinston9958 Even if I agree it is overblown - I would accept it on M2 Competition. But I could never accept it for the price of M2 CS. Some people had their crankshaft crack during drilling for keyed hub. But the risk (however small) on crankshaft cracking on expensive M2 CS is unacceptable.
TH is the best. Well rounded reviews. With such passion and charisma it's no wonder why they're absolutely the premier car review channel on YT. I've been a fanboy for longtime and its great to see this conversation take place.
Yes, definitely Top Gear type of content. We will post more clips from this podcast, Thomas talks about that also
Had an F87 M2 for 3 years. I still miss it.
A family friend let me drive his standard M2 DCT before it was sold off, even when it’s my first time with that car and I could already drive it at seven tenths in MDM mode. I have not driven any front engined car made in the last 10 years that requires this much effort yet is so rewarding at the same time. Best part is it never feels overly scary even when the tail starts to kick out a bit. I really fell for the M2. And there was some actual feedback coming through the wheel too.
I’ve had my OG M2 since February of 2024 and have put nearly 25k miles on so far. It’s been a blast. I really wanted the M2 Comp but I got a really good deal on my OG. M2 Comps with no accidents and low miles we’re selling for $12-17k more than the OG and I just didn’t think the difference was worth that much
Nothing wrong with the OG M2. Many actually like it more.
Does stock og need bigger ic for track use?
@@sdgsdgsdg54 probably. I didn’t have much seat time with the stock intercooler. I did the chargepipe, intercooler, downpipe, and tune in the first week of owning the car. The stock one was tiny compared the the 6.5” I put in
i assume u daily it? were you looking at m3/4 as well?
@@sdgsdgsdg54it doesn’t NEED it, but you do get noticeable heat soak power loss after a few laps with the stock IC
I love my og m2! With proper coilovers and alignment this thing is great track learning car
Picked up a 2017 model 3 months ago and im loving every second
Why not the S55?
Mainly due to the noise and "M tax " on engine parts. Furthermore, as a young adult, ive seen all my peers fixated on numbers (0-60, 60-130) instead of the character of the car. My current daily is a 2006 Honda Accord Euro r, and I smile ear to ear driving that car. 😂
@@bmwblogew you’re one of those
He said he would get a CT4V Blackwing if he ever sold his M2. Curious to see if he still feels that way.
Had an Alpine White 2017 M2 with the DCT, great car. Miss that transmission.
Love my OG M2 for dual duty usage. At an instructor pace, you can hammer it all day with minimal modification. There are definite benefits to the OG over the comp. It’s the perfect mid-level track car that can be daily driven and have kids in the back!
2:50 Isn’t the Competition suspension exactly the same as the OG? As far as I know, the part numbers of springs and shocks are the same.
It's not the same and it's way too stiff
@@DhanleyEntertainment afaik it;'s all the same , I've had an OG M2 from 6-2016 to 11-2018 switching to an M2 Comp. Cheers Robin
Not the same
@@jonathanwinston9958 How is it different with all the same part numbers?
It is the same as far as part numbers but the Competition has a strut brace where OG does not. It is hard to explain how it drives differently, it's either weight or they revised some of the unchanged part numbers during the LCI.
Bought the OG M2 Aug 24 because I couldn’t accept the sound of s55, never regret it even though s55 is a better car
I have a M235i 6spd Stage 2 Tune, one thing i hate the most is the power band. Either Stock or tuned, it has too much down low torque and no top end. It dies at 6000 rpm and i have 1200 rpm left, wish it was more linear. Ive spun out a couple times cuz of it 😅
REAL im on a 535xi and its the same deal
If you have an F87 get the MP coilovers and adjust them to softer settings. He’s right the standard suspension is really awful. It totally transforms the car.
Can get a comp now for a few grand more - is that not a better idea?
@ The comp has same suspension, so same issue. It’s a bit faster but the engine is prone to more potential issues. Mines gone now replaced by a Cayman 718 S, but the M2 was a good driving tool when the standard suspension is upgraded.
Good to know on the top mounts. We need a couple degrees of camber in the front to fit our new square setup - any advice to keep the noise down with top hats?
I have öhlins r&t with stock mounts, perfect for the road but not enough camber for the track with the stock hubs. So I upgraded to the camber correction hubs from BMW, now -2.5°C camber up front. I had Millway street top mounts before but found them still to produce to much NVH.
Is there a full podcast/ talk with Thomas?
Yes. We wanted to break it down so people can digest it easier. But here it is th-cam.com/video/oEucUmHcboM/w-d-xo.html
AST CO's are absolute garbage. I had to rebuild mine after a few days at Laguna Seca....then the guy I sold them to had to rebuild them twice before giving up on them...trash
Dang sorry to hear about your experience with them. I have fortune autos on my car and they’ve been great
Really? What coils are you running now
Where can we catch the entire conversation
th-cam.com/video/oEucUmHcboM/w-d-xo.html
@@bmwblog thanks!
Thomas Holland!
I can’t believe you daily a 1M in Chicago.
I don't daily it.
Still waiting for Thomas to announce the purchase of a CT4 Blackwing like he said he would 😉
Let's see. That would be a wild car
5:40 CS fixed "every" problem except the CRANK HUB. A >$100K M2 with an engine that grenades. A disgrace.
Haven't heard of that one. I'm assuming because not that many CS models
@@bmwblog Infamous S55 crank hub held together with friction ring and hope, instead of being keyed. 10 long years BMW knew about the flaw and refused to revise it because it would be admission of guilt.
Preventively I did the CHF( Mosselman) two years ago incl oil change etc. Now running 550ish BHP(and 700Nm/ 516lb/ft) Love it.
Crank hub problem is way over blown. So few had any issues.
@@jonathanwinston9958 Even if I agree it is overblown - I would accept it on M2 Competition. But I could never accept it for the price of M2 CS. Some people had their crankshaft crack during drilling for keyed hub. But the risk (however small) on crankshaft cracking on expensive M2 CS is unacceptable.
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