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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- Today, we tackle the most debated topic in the Godzilla fandom's history. With a new Monsterverse movie's release, fans have started this age-old debate once again. Will the Monsterverse's Godzilla's physical strength, speed, and brawler esc fighting style take the win or will the Heisei's Godzilla's atomic firepower and durability prove to be too much for Monsterverse Godzilla to handle?
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I just want to remind everyont to keep it civil in the comments, this is NOT a powerscaling video. What did you guys think of the explanation and outcome?
It was good but heisei wins this
I expected it and I love it.
@@MurderTimetrioHUGE CAP
ehrm heisei godzillas fart can blow up the solar system
I personally strongly disagree but respect your opinion on which big radioactive dinosaur wins this one 👍
"His 99,000 ton ass hated Scylla so much he JUMPED IN THE AIR"
One of the greatest quotes I've ever heard XD
Scylla’s got opps
It's 90,000 metric tones for the non-Americans.
I should’ve been the one to fill your darkslayer soul with LIGHT
Final wars would be proud.
You forgot to mention that *fearsome Godzilla has evolved*
*Rumbling.mp3*
Damn I forgot about that one, MV low Diffs then 😔
*skin ripping noises*
@@Gabarasolostheverseyour not the creator
Fearsome Godzilla has evolved to clap H Godzilla ass cheeks
As a Heisei fanboy myself, I'm not even mad. The arguments made make perfect sense. Heisei is still my favorite, but that doesn't mean he has to take everything.
You have my respect 🤝
As a heisei fan same
Same
For sure. Heisei was my entry into Godzilla. I love them. But MV Godzilla is amazing successor.
I agree that Heisei was amazing. Really cool Godzilla and when you think of Godzilla the first thing that came to my mind was Heisei before 2019. Monsterverse too is just amazing.
Why can’t we just agree that they’re both awesome in their own way?
Both are amazing godzillas
I do prefer mv godzilla because of his speed and agility but heisei is my third favourite
Because it's not a debate on how awesome they are, it's a debate on who'd win on a battle
@lucastheodoro4188 that's how WIS debates start, on who is more awesome. Who is more awesome leads straight to who would win
i can
they are both my 2-3 favorite g design (after minus one cuz thats like mashup of those two)
so yea
not really, showa godzilla's goofy, not awesome and he still mops the floor with legendary godzilla@@CypherGodzilla
Damn, he is genius. Even if he says "Heisei wins" or "Legendary wins" everyone might take this as an April Fool's joke.
Big brain 😭
People saying mv wins isn't an April fools joke. THEY are a joke.
@@Mechagodzilla1975 mv solos showa and heisei neg diff 😱
But it’s not april 1st in any part of america, just accept the fact that heisei sucks💀
@@ATA_KotmAarondamn bro that take was absolute trash.
March 31st 2024 - war of fanboys
May 6th 2024 - The War Continues
May 16th 2024 - The shit never ends
So true
Literally.
March 27th 2025 - *ITS STILL GOING*
Do you hear the keyboards clacking in the distance? It's the fanboys/girls threatening to doxx you if you don't make their preferred godzilla win!
Couple hours later and they seem to have been able to keep to themselves, I think sanity is starting to be restored among the Godzilla community!
@@eeeee8531Sheesh, let's hope.
@monstermaker73
It's mostly chill, most comments on Heisei's favor correct mistakes made on the video.
What💀
@@ДанилЕгоров-к2с It's true
FDA's lawyer is sharting rn
You also have to remember MV Goji has been around for 252 million years. I have no doubt that his battle experience is on another level, especially relative to Heisei Godzilla.
That has been retconned, but MV Godzilla as an individual is still as old as the last common ancestor of humans and chimps (roughly 6 million years old)
@user-tk6li9li5n The Permian Extinction was 252 million years ago
Godzilla's *species* are around 252 million years ago, Godzilla himself was only around for 5-6 million years at most.
But that doesn't matter as Heisei Godzilla was only around 70 years old at the time of his death.
@@maximseretenskynah godzilla been around for 252 as the gojira species is way older
@@Merica_official50 *I SAID IT WAS RETCONNED!*
Finally someone actually doesn't downplay Monsterverse Godzilla it took so long for someone just to actually pinpoint the actually good feats of Monsterverse Godzilla while also liking heisei Godzilla!!!
Fr man people sleep on MV
While I agree mv is slept on. Hesei should still stomp
@@madslayer4197nah lol
I thought I was the only one
Mv Godzilla > all godzillas.
Something that I think is annoyingly ignored is how well Godzillas could work together.
Heisei and MV would be one hell of a team, Minus one would be a fantastic support for most other Godzillas. O’course no one cares about any of that.
Yeah Godzilla getting physical , and heisei just being his tanky mini gun.
Mv would be rushing enemies non-stop, heisei is a fockin wall/tank, and minus one is a sniper
@@Space_leopard Minus one could also heal other Godzillas with his atomic breath because of how much radiation it emits
@@Destoroyahpng TF2 medic then
@@Space_leopard the healing is not as rewarding as the hurting
Anyone else hear the heisei powerscalers getting ready for war?
Nice pfp
@@Matheus_Rubio thanks lol
@@Arandomgamer7w
Hear? I can FEEL them 💀
@@CypherGodzillaWHAT💀💀💀
It’s been 3 months and I cant find a better and more accurate vid than this.
Before the heisei fanboys attack me, I’m not biased, just a person who knows my crap.
Amazing art as always fda
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@@OfficialfdaTysm for finally making this video I am so tired of heisei fanboys but can you do Evolved Godzilla (technically 2014-2024) vs king titan from ark bc people say king titan solos mainly bc he literally stopped earth’s rotation but Godzilla is between 100 feet but less than 200 feet shorter than hin
@@AwesomeMonkeyVr
I mean FDA’s video disproves nothing
@Gabara_Solos_Ur_Fav_Verse It disproves a lot, actually. You're clinging to outliers. Time to stop it.
@@Officialfda let’s gooo base form legendary Godzilla wins with low to NEG difficulty against base form H Godzilla and legendary Godzilla win against AMP H Godzilla with low to mid difficulty
Guys, I think Godzilla will win this one. NO CAP
Stop lying! Godzilla wins obviously
Nah bro i think Gojira wins
yea Godzilla wins (wich one xd?)
YOU GUYS ARE ALL WRONG GODZILLA ONE TAPS THE ENTIRE VERSE
Nah you're all wrong! Godzilla clearly wins against godzilla!
The best thing coming out of these debates is the thumbnail art lot's of talented artists in the Godzilla community
Personally I don’t agree with the outcome, But I’m not one to argue with someone over fictional nuclear dinosaurs.
literally😂
Heisei being the Hydrogen bomb.
@@Mechagodzilla1975 mv actually is
@@OneFirePhoenix-Some random mv fanboy
@@Mechagodzilla1975rip you my guy
Let’s go I’m flying to LAX and right when the plane lands I can watch this banger.
All I want to say before I even watch the video, the thumbnail is great. Love it.
Thank you! I’m happy you like my artwork
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@@legendarywolverine5529 You really should! Even if you think you're rusty, with enough time you'll start to become more and more satisfied with your own artwork
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12:45 his atomic breath was being down played when reaching hollow earth because of gravity changes. also, every mv ability is Amphibiousness Atomic breath Healing factor Nuclear pulse Prehensile tail Radiation and Energy Absorption heightened Senses Nature awareness Extreme temperature resistance Symbiosis and more since it is still continuing
I knew legendary will win because that uppercut on scylla and the fact heisei is slower than my dad coming back with the milk legendary will be able to get in close fast because well heisei is slow and sucks at psychical fights
LMFAO
LOL 💀
WHAT THE HELL 💀💀
😂🤣
PFFFFWHAAAAAT?!
I've already seen 2 videos of this Debate from "Goji-Chronic" and "Godzilla King Of The Monsters" guy who do powerscaling with numbers and info I can trust. Rn I'm watching this video to for fun
Edit: I did enjoy it but the MV Godzilla absorbing Radiation from the powerplant seems biased cause can't Heisei do that as well, even if we take Heisei as a PowerPlant, he can do the same thing right back at MV Godzilla
if they absorbed each others radiation it then become who can do it faster and with more efficiency.
one underrated heisei strength feat is that he lifted biollante in her final form which weighs 200k tons
I really hate scaling, for example, rock beats scissors, and paper beats rock, so paper would logically beat scissors right?
I have stared at this comment for 6 hours and I still don’t know the answer. My whole life is a lie.
Exactly the phrase "someone scales to someone" never made any sense to me
Tbh, I feel like the Heisei fanboys are gonna be more mad at this
Fr tho*
They arent mad, bc they have brains, they just say its false. (Which it is + I ain't a heisei fanboy as I prefer Legendary)
@@Mechagodzilla1975 I assure you, they’re gonna be making tons of videos, harassing FDA over a tiny little debate about a rubber dinosaur and And a giant CGI saltwater crocodile. And the worst part is I’m pretty sure FDA is a minor who is just making this videos for fun.
Eh it's like that with every godzilla fan when they find out that their favourite godzilla loses apart from gojira 1954 fans there the chill fans
@@godzillazillayt6922fr tho! I don’t think I’ve seen anyone say that 1954 is the strongest. They are what we should all aspire to be, chill people who don’t care about pointless debates
Seeing Monsterverse Godzilla absorb radiation Gamera style was pretty crazy and cool ngl. Always thought he was running around munching on nuclear weaponry like the MUTOs or just passively taking it into his body, but nah just straight up vortexing it into his mouth lmao
if this was a realistic fight between 2 animals MV wins . But if you use powerscaling like the terms mountain,star or galaxy lvl heisei wins
Agree
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Tru dat. Legendary is just too aggressive.
@@penguinlord6098 yea i just imagine legendary picking up heisei and throwing him farther than when he trew kong since he weighs less
@@GugaKing512 Or he final warses the shit out of it, and throws heisei to space.
Blud I remember this one time where a guy said Heisei was COMPLEX-MULTIVERSAL, AND NUKES AND OTHER EVENTS AMPLIFIED HIS POWER 880 TIMES.
Fun fact: There are no statements in any of the films regarding this. Even in the books.
Heisei = Planetary
MV = Small - Planet
This could be referring to Godzilla Almighty, but it's a whole different Godzilla.
There are actually statements that support a 200x increase in vs Ghidorah II thanks to the 200 nukes, but aside from that there's nothing that leads to a 880x increase in a film, so yeah that guy must've been on the good s--t for that increase.
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He’s likely talking about burning Godzilla, who smoked like 2000 tons of natural uranium deposits, which was the final push he needed to overdoes himself and for his burning form, and yk if you compare burning to well 84, he’s gotten a lot more then 1000x more powerful.
@@SpaceGodzilla-xb7vk Erm, no? How can really juiced up lizard control or destroy multiverses? He can't even destroy the planet.
Sure, he may be 1000x more powerful, but *HE CANNOT* beat Rimuru. He would need again, his "Almighty form". Even if he did absorb 2k tons of uranium, MV would literally be more powerful since he did absorb a whole ass powerplant, and more according to novels.
@@ophanim7665 heisei absorbed space Godzillas “infinite energy”, that’s already more then anything that mv Godzilla has done and will probably ever do.
I just came here to say one thing I love that Doug appeared in GXK
I agree with this outcome. Even though Heisei Godzilla is more durable than MV Godzilla, MV Godzilla would brush off Heisei beam with no trouble a all and die to him being stronger, heavier, much faster and much more agile and just the more skilled an intelligent melee fighter, Heisei would be very overwhelmed.
Watch a powerscaller stupidy bill
how would he brush it off???
@@orangeisntsus5535 neither of their beams would do anything to each other. I said brush it off as if brushing dust off your shoulder because the beam would have 0 effect. Honestly the heat behind heiseis beam is the only thing it has going for it and it’s far less than 1 million degrees meanwhile nukes are over 50 million degrees. Legendary Godzilla took one to the face with his eyes open and recieved 0 damage from it so heiseis beam is going to have basically no affect. All it would do is push him back a little if anything but legendary beam would do the same. Eventually both will have to fight in hand ti hand combat and legendary would rush in after learning his atomic breath was having 0 effect.
@@tdwwolf6107 That, AND we have a metric for the beam's effects, in the form of skyscrapers. It doesn't have much force behind it, and only just affects things due to its speed and temperature. Something MV Godzilla could brush off.
@monstermaker73 so we're just ignoring how it blew chunks off of kaiju?
See, physically, legendary stomps HORRIBLY, while heisei has a slight edge on atomic breath, though that's mainly with burning. So, overall, Legendary VS Heisei, Legendary wins with mid-high diff. Burning might win with extreme diff, because of his atomic breath, though he is still dying, because he's definitely gonna need to use meltdown to win. Also the fact he still doesn't have physical edge. Evolved vs Burning, evolved wins mid-high as well. His physical strength is superior to previous legendary's strength, and he has a physical strength boost from evolving (a little bit) , and an extremely powerful pulse and breath, having clear edge over burning.
Don't want to sound like a fanboy but Heisei's physically stronger than MV Goji.
The logic used on thw strength category was really weird, like a fake feat of pushing 600k tons being above breaking a tectonic plate on the bottom of the ocean doesn't really make sense.
That and the fact that Heisei can take over 10k times his own power back at him really gives him a solid edge durability wise even with Evolved's 20x (as far as I'm aware) increase.
PS: I don't wanna force an opinion on ya' though, I respect you thinking that MV Goji wins and believe that there are good arguments for a W from him, but on the case of this video, it really wasn't a good one.
Isn't Thermo goji stronger than evolved?
@@Eclipse_Gojiphysically, no, in general, not really, I mean, evolved has a 2,000,000+ degree atomic breath, and presumably his pulse is equal to that if not much higher, now if i remember correctly thermo only has a 1-1.5 million degree atomic breath, meaning in general evolved is stronger.
@AJ_IV
Going by temperature isn't that reliable imo.
Though if I remember correctly it was stated that Evolved was stronger than Thermo somewhere, but I might be wrong and getting all that tangled up with the 20x increase statement.
@@redmartin6237the increase is 20x so, if we do that math, his atomic breath was at 20,000-100,000 degrees Fahrenheit as of GvK, and it was SIGNIFICANTLY stronger in GxK before evolution, so it's hard to tell but i'd say the base atomic breath can probably go up to at least 150,000, maybe 200,000, adding up to a 4,000,000 degree evolved atomic breath! However, your point still stands, as there are good arguments for each variant.
The only think heisei fans can do is cough up ridiculous calculations that basically say heisei Godzilla is pretty much invincible…and that monsterverse Godzilla wouldn’t even be able to move him, let alone brawl with him.
Calculations are not ridiculous.
Both Godzilla's would throw each other around but Heisei Godzilla would win in a fight.
@@RoughTopicheisei’s short slow ass is not throwing MV Godzilla around . Bro moves like he’s in space 😂
And I’m a heisei fan
@@TheBlackDragonSS9820
Well, Heisei does have the feats to throw someone of MV Goji's weight and is canonically much faster than what we've seen on screen (300 mph though MV Goji's over twice that mark).
That and the video did make some crucial mistakes, like a fake feat of pushing 600k tons being above breaking a tectonic plate.
I say it's a fate feat because the 600k ton mark was already debunked a long time ago.
There are arguments to say why MV Goji wins but this video doesn't really hit that mark with how biased it seemed towards MV Goji at certain points.
@@TheBlackDragonSS9820 Just because Heisei is moving like slow-motion doesn't disprove him being millions of times stronger than Legendary Godzilla.
@@RoughTopicyou seem like the kind of person others would move away from on a bus based on your delusions
ok but whats heisei godzilla gonna do when MV godzilla goes all out american and shoots him with a gun?
AMERICA!!! WHAT THE F* IS A KILOMETER
@@Officialfda 🦅
@@Officialfda AMERICA RAHHH 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅🔥🔥🔥
MV godzilla whips out the FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY breath, Heisei shrinks back in fear as he feels the oil and communistic ideals of the world crumble around him, as he is forced in his knees to beg for forgiveness, freedom, and democracy.
Heisei overpowers him easily and mv cant do anything about it. Mv pulls out a gun. And yells "wtf is a kilometer" then Heisei runs away and dies (dont ask how).
You actually good at debating u don’t have to resort to scans and guide books like other debaters do actually go based off what happeneds in the comics and movies w but they are both the strongest live action Godzillas but nice work dude
I think I just the video you were talking about.
_"u don’t have to resort to scans and guide books like other debaters do actually go based off what happeneds in the comics and movies"_
What? Dude, why do you phrase looking at scans and guidebooks as if such an act is a bad thing? That's part of what being a powerscaler means. We look beyond the superficial showings of characters in movies to gather more accurate Attack Potency and Speed metas. Just because a character may look more or less impressive on-screen, doesn't mean they're actually at that level.
@@thebatmanofneo-gotham5667 most of the debators I watch on discord mostly rely on scans and guide books they rarely get anything from the movie
@@thebatmanofneo-gotham5667 "That's part of what being a powerscaler means!" 🤓🤓👆👆
@@cast8060 Not sure why you're trying to make me out to be a fool for saying what I said, because it is indeed true. Why bother analyzing how strong a character is if you don't examine guidebooks and scans?
If anything, you should be using those emojis for the title vomment and not me. Because he's presenting the argument of "what you see is what you get" in this context.
When Legendary ran into Monster zero they created a shockwave and a shock wave is faster than the speed of sound.
Legendary Godzilla has Nucleosynthetic glands. And Nucleosynthetic material bruns up too 5million decrease celsius.
Legendary Godzilla radiation was said to be Cherenkov radiation. Cherenkov radiation is fast than light (in water).
(I personally think its a stalemate)
Yeah but just by going by the temperature said material can reach is not really a viable way to see things.
After all, the Atomic Breath itself can be either higher or lower than that mark, in the end, Legendary is who'll have the final word on how hot MV Goji's AB is. . . Which doesn't really matter in the end knowing that both Heisei and MV Goji can take that kind of temperature without much of an issue.
This one is mostly on the raw power behind each Atomic breath, with either having an argument to surpass or be in par with the other.
@@redmartin6237 this isn't about the fight this is facts he didn't say.
sry but wtf is a nucleosynthetic gland???
the shit that enables his atomic breath ability in his throat@@Seele_and_their_Scenario
@rockateart9752
Oh apologies, force of habit I guess 😅
I can sense the heisei powerscalers typing a essay on why heisei is outerversal because he farted
Yea that's why scaling is bad
@@user-gjb637mg4lodamn right you are.
Hesei is overpowered though
@@madslayer4197 Not gonna deny that, but Powerscalers will try and say that Heisei is so much more impossibly powerful than he is
Powerscalers sucks but in fact heisei has more good feats
"And there it it the definitive awnser to this debate...who im a kidding people are gonna argue this forever"-Death batle
That’s the toxic Godzilla Community for ya.
Even if i love more heisei godzilla holy fuck this video is so good, i like all the investigation you made and the details
W vid once again
I would ask of you could put up every goji up against Titanus Doug, but then I was like thats so unfair like Doug wins ez no contest neg diff
Heisei is downplayed in this video, considering Heisei is made out of quadrillion of those cells that tanked a Blackhole and a Supernova, he would just eat his attacks, of course we don't base the strength of their atomic breath from their temperature, we use powerscaling.
Literally proof in the vid that shows mv Godzilla beats heisei
: *welp I guess we gotta go*
@@GreGg9 this comment clearly explains that Heisei was downplayed in the video
@@Plain_Ichi ay man I don't know if u knew this b u t maybe rewatch the video right?, and then you'll see why hesiei is not being downplayed. Btw I am a hesiei godzilla fan but at least I'm not blinded by nostalgia and use worthless guide books that don't even go well with the films making it not a good source of information . Yes hesiei godzilla did tank his own beam 20kx hotter but Godzilla took an asteroid MILLIONS times hotter. Point blank too btw
@@GreGg9 Battra was supposed to destroy a meteor that will essentially destroy earth, guidebooks are alright if you don't ignore some of his feats it becomes pretty consistent.
@@GreGg9
MV Goji didn't take the asteroid point blank, the trajectory it showed puts it was too far to hit him up close.
And Heisei tanked an Asteroid too, strong enough to obliterate the mountain range around him so I don't really see why the temperature of the asteroid matters.
I feel like instead of fighting, heisei will try and communicate with legendary like how he first reacted to super mecha, and then either two things play out, legendary is chill or legendary becomes extremely territorial and instigates a fight
I'm more inclined for the first outcome though.
I mean, it's likely the only remaining relative Legendary has and a potential/ key ally, if Heisei remains chill a conflict can be easily avoided.
If Heisei's not anger driven he and MV Goji might even come to an agreement, with Legendary being the Alpha and ensuring balance while Heisei remains reserved and will only interfere if stuff gets too out of hand.
I agree with most, but you forgot the most important feat MonsterVerse has over heisei in terms of durability.
Heisei was crippled by SuperMechaGodzilla and was practically on death's doorstep after it proceeded to overwhelm his regenerative abilities. Not only did the US Version of the Oxygen Destroyer severely hurt MonsterVerse which he barely survived til Serizawa's sacrifice, but Ghidorah dropped him from the upper atmosphere. This means that not only did he survive the extreme heat of re-entry but crashing into the ground that should have crippled him let alone killed him.
Amazing video!
But Hesei was able to tank hits from Mothra whi was able to divert a planet destroying meteor, he didn't even MOVE. How do you top that? How would MV even be able to MOVE Hesei?
Their attacks can't even destroy buildings, as you can see when mothra's attacks miss. Plus when Heisei Godzilla used his nuclear pulse against the asteroid diverting mothra😂, the buildings that got hit are perfectly fine like nothing hit em😂😂😂
@compositegoji lol true. I'm on team MV and I thought they had us beat with this one 🤣
@@TerminatorDinosaur Their statements cannot beat our logic lol😂
W video bro. GxK was peak.
It ain’t called “the new peakpire” for nothin.
It’s not an anti-feat if Biollante can pierce Godzilla because she is a clone of Godzilla. The same creature, same cells
And the fact that he was being weakened as the fight went on from the Anti Nuclear Energy Bacteria.
And we can't forget the massive upgrade he had on vs Ghidorah II, having a bulkier build and growing 20 meters thanks to the radiation.
Enjoyed the vid but there were a couple things you did get wrong about both Heisei and MV Godzilla that could change the outcome.
Muto prime was confirmed by aftershocks author that in order to affect tectonic plates it used abilities not its raw strength, while still extremely impressive you cant really say MV Goji is now capable of the same thing using only his raw strength. Heisei was shown on screen breaking a tectonic plate by accident, with the characters mentioning it a later scene. I personally would give heisei the edge on strength and while MV goji could be capable of doing the same thing there's nothing concrete saying it is.
Later in the video you mentioned MV would be able to syphon Heisei's energy because MV was shown absorbing radiation in GxK but you forget Heisei is capable of the same thing and unlike MV, Heisei was shown using this ability in battle when fighting Spacegodzilla. This isn't a powerscaling thing it was shown on screen with the characters making a point that Godzilla was stealing spacegodzilla's power which later in movie allowed him to use the red spiral ray.
I still think overall the video was great but there were just a few things you overlooked that make this fight closer and (in my own opinion) does give Heisei the edge in this fight.
wait....what would happen if they both absorbed each other's energy at the same time?
@@jameszhao1428 probably would either enter a meltdown state or it comes down to who could syphon each other fast which would probably end in a stalemate 🤷♂️
really good video GG.
Can you do legendary vs earth pls?
Considering I’ve down burning vs earth I could very well do something like evolved or thermo vs earth
@@Officialfda thx I really love your video continue like this!! Oh and you can do legendary vs showa!
Thank you for clarifying this!!! I’ve always wondered who would win this fight!!!!
I think heisei is more likely to win his durability is just too high being able to tank his own atomic breath times 20,000 that would pretty much instantly kill legendary Godzilla people say the legendary Godzilla is stronger but I don’t think so because we’ve only been able to see him pushing around other kaiju while Heisei picked up and threw a 150,000 ton Mechagodzilla
YES!!! LETS GOOO!!! SOMEONE REALIZES!! I completely agree bro you just earned a subscriber. If someone is so butt hurt that heisei loses they can go cry about it to their mom lol its not the end of the universe (like they think would happen by heisei godzilla breathing) if heisei loses a fight like jeez. You finally settled this debate for me. If someone tries to start a heisei vs mv debate with me ima just take them straight to this video and let you humble them. Good day bro and see you on your next video 👊
You ain’t humbling shit when they use feats and statements from toho themselves, don’t even also
Humbling? LMAO
Gkotm nearly made fda think heisei>earth but fda only chose to see it as a tie cuz he’s biased and unable to accept the truth
FDA was a hypocrite in this video
Doesn’t want to use statements for heisei yet uses an iffy statement of mv’s beam being stronger than anything in the universe
You’re the same mf who think the scales of mv touching universal are accurate who were made by a mv glazer who faked all of his debate wins
@@Gabarasolostheverselil bros mad look at ur name
Finally
Someone how doesn’t fanboy MV and Heisei
Guess my art isn’t so inaccurate
W fr! Good video and refreshing to see a power scaler come to the conclusion that Monsterverse Godzilla is actually the winner in this 1v1
Actually u forget something
In the opening credits of the Gvk movie, It said that mv Godzilla's atomic breath not at full power is 500k temperature making it equal to heisei Gojira's beam, and all though im a heisei fan, Mv Godzilla's Atomic breath Did much more than what heisei did with his atomic breath
But in 2014 they said the Godzilla atomic breath is around 20,000
E V O L U T I O N
@@jameszhao1428 *FEARSOME GODZILLA HAS EVOLVED*
@@monstermaker73 *FEARSOME GODZILLA HAS EVOLVED*
@@ArthurBr1000Oficial FEARSOME GODZILLA HAS EVOLVED
You're wrong there, on the GvK opening MV Goji’s AB temperature was put on the 20k degrees Celsius mark or lighting temperature to be precise.
Some have used the director statement to disprove it but they forget the 2014 and Aftershock mark given, which are both 20k, or well around 33k to 77k if Arvid Nelson's statement on Twitter is used, which is my preferred mark tbh.
The 500k mark comes from a Quora calc that used the temperature needed to drill all the way through, something mostly rejected as there are a few contradictions. . . And lowering the power output of the feat if J remember correctly, haven't seen it in a while.
fda you seriously made my day.
Every other video says that
“ oh Heisei’s beam is so much stronger out of league that it could keep MonsterVerse Goji far and injured from all of the bema spamming and it would eventually wear him down\ to the point where Heisei would slowly walk towards him and MVG would let him slowly advance towards him and then pick him up and pulse him, burning his already damaged hide and finally killing this guy. “
Or-
“ Although Monsterverse’ close range combat is good, Heisei could just use his pulse to greaten the distance between the 2 before decking Fodderzilla with his far superior beam!”
They just ignore how many categories Legendary really has over Heisei, he’s so much faster that I don’t even think Heisei could hold him in his hands and deal some severe damage without Legendary just slashing through his hide with his claws or chomping at his flesh with his enormously hurtful jaws or RAMMING HIM to the floor using all dat body mass or decking him over with his tail or crushing his bones with his feet or burning him with his atomic breath or even using his dorsal to slice him and ⬆️ would be incredibly badass and funny to see.
Thank you for saving the legacy of Chadzilla, me and him are incredibly thankful.
Chadzilla is the new name for Legendary Gojira.
No hate but, you are underestimating heisei's durability.
@@aljiaooutside of durability he still gets folded tho
He's also MUCH older. 252 Million Years. That implies a lot more battle experience compared to the relatively young Heisei Godzilla.
@@petroshalkos3453 heisei's durability is like x10,000 mv's since both of their beams are 500k degrees celsius. That was in 1989 too, heisei became 200x stronger between 1989 and 1991.
@@aljiaofda stated numerous times that LG’s beam could reach a maximum of 100K Celsius. And Legendary’s durability isn’t 10,000x less than Heisei’s you dufuss-
you did the video exactly how I proved it and the thumbnail was awesome!
A TH-camr whos finally accurate and who doesn't glaze Heisei.
fda bouta lose all his heisei fan viewers
the only people staying would be his mv glazers fans lmao not to be mean but he's horrible at scaling
@@mehdiberlat They're gonna dip because their fictional nuclear dinosaur lost? Wow. A five year old who just finished rewatching Final Wars has more conviction than these pathetic fucks.
@@mehdiberlatstop crying and accept that MV Godzilla wins bro ☠️💀☠️☠️💀💀💀💀💀
@@mehdiberlatI think that's most of the people
@@mehdiberlat Fda says that his videos aren't powerscaling videos, when that's a lie.
Any kind of "Who would win" question, video ect. is powerscaling. Fda just doesn't understand what powerscaling means.
Ngl im very intrigued. I would say heisei imo but honestly probably is kinda close. We haven't seen mv full potential yet anyway.
Edit: nvm you really showed why mv wins. Heisej fanboys coming in with their goofy guide book feats. Aka the same guide book that says heisei Ghidorah is a showa Ghidorah clone 💀
Is that actually real, is there a guide book that says Heisei ghidorah is a Showa ghidorah clone? If so what type of drugs was Toho taking.
DAMM why do people always have to argue mv vs heisei people they're both good so stop arguing
Finally someone gets it, I personally think Heisei wins but they are both powerful in their own ways
In a universe where monsters fight, I think it's fine to argue about this
@@INDOMINUS_REX_EDITZ_YT thank you
@@ParrotsAccount yeah no I disagree
@@godzilla44556 np bro
Howdy, it’s me again. I know I’m gonna get hate for this, but I expected legendary to win due to his severe speed and agility advantage. As powerful as Heisei is and as durable as he is, I just didn’t see Heisei killing a larger, bulkier fighter that was significantly faster than the lumbering tank.
It’s like a Usain Bolt trying to take down Jason Voorhees. A Tank vs a cheetah.
I definitely feel that statement of Godzillas breath being more powerful than anything in nature is hyperbole. If his breath was more powerful than a blackhole then that would throw off the entire MV scaling (Kong got hit in the back by it during GvK and survived. Guess Kong has Blackhole durability lmao). By ‘in nature’ it probably meant “on Earth” which makes more sense. No way MV Godzilla shooting out beams more powerful that Supernovas while simultaneously causing minimal terrain destruction by comparison.
if it was really stronger than a supernova, a single spark from it would evaporate the planet
Godzilla's atomic breath gets wider the farther it goes (theoretically infinite). We saw it when he used it to drill down the hollow earth, when he fired it at the surface it was just as wide as his mouth, but when it reached the hollow earth it got so wide. In theory, whenever he fires it at the sky, it may travel there infinitely, it could get so wide there that it could get as wide as a planet or star or even a supermassive blackhole and if one was hit on its way, it would get obliterated
My Take:
Base MV > Base Heisei
Burning Godzilla > Thermo Godzilla
You are correct . Although I do see a lot of nerdy heisei fan base raiding this comment and bring up a lot of bs by saying he’s multiversal or high boundless +. I’ve seen it already
This is the correct answer.
Exactly
@@GhidorahFan64FACTS LOL
Correct 🥳
Very goated, but just a question
Why did you sing the skibidi toilet song 💀
No wonder
Thank you FDA me and my friends gotten into too many arguments on who'd win and thank you for squashing the argument
I agree except the fact he is using base heisei,if was both amped you would get slammed in a debate because heisei would slam
@@valdoacre
That and the bias towards MV Goji (usage of both comics and statements alongside the movies while Heisei only got the Movies) alongside the flawed logic and debunked information.
MG21's 600k weight mark was debunked by the director himself.
@@redmartin6237 when i said mv is stronger? Learn how to read,i literally said heisei would win
@@valdoacre
I didn't say Heisei was weaker, I was just reinforcing your point because the creator of the video was using already debunked information to give an edge to MV Goji, and even with that he had to use some ridiculously flawed logic to give strength to him.
Apologies if my bad English just made an unnecessary mess.
@@redmartin6237 oh its ok to
I am brazilian so i have a bad english too
I like this video cause you gave information about it , I couldn't decide who would win , I like them both in different ways but thanks to you its clear to me , love your work
Actually, MV Godzilla weights 164.000 tons
Nice video man, I see people are mad in the coments and are downplaying MV Godzilla just because of ur conclusion, but anyways, we must not play attention to those brainless people who do not accept that their childhood Godzilla loses.
Adam wingard confirmed that the weight for the gvk intro was takin from a godzilla article and that gvk intro was rushed
His official weight is 99k
That child hood Godzilla survived being in a volcano for 4 years 💀
@@INDOMINUS_REX_EDITZ_YT thats rights
@@INDOMINUS_REX_EDITZ_YTyeah cus radiation is their energy source, use your brain💀
@@ATA_KotmAaron Biollante was said to be “immortal” what does that tell u?
There is one massive problem with your analysis and thats the strength feats. You mention Godzilla slamming Battra into the ground hard enough to crack open a tectonic plate yet chose to scale that feat off of Battras weight rather than the techtonic plate being split apart.
Thats like scaling goku punching frieza based on how heavy frieza is, it just doesn't make sense.
MV hasn't demonstrated the ability to split tectonic plates, and has been expicitly stated to not be strong enough to do so. Strength should clearly go to Heisei.
Given how there was magma visible almost immediately after Heisei Godzilla cracked open that tectonic plate, he was probably on a VERY thin portion of that plate, which means his feat is a little less impressive than people make it out to be.
Tha fact that you think heisei throwing Mechagodzilla is a more impressive feats than cracking open a tectonic plate is astonishing. Tells .e everything i need to know lol
I think its just a matter of tectonic plate breaking attacks apply to both Heisei and MV, so instead of going into power scaling, he just stayed the course with feats we can actually see demonstrated and not things that need to be extrapolated out.
@smugreptile6695 The difference is that MUTO Prime had to utilize weak points in the plates. The writer has literally told people that he thinks actually breaking open a tectonic plate like Heisei did is impossible for a kaiju to do in the monsterverse
Not to mention that lifting feats don't actually matter much in this scenario because they don't directly correlate to striking force
@@godzillaandstuffproduction9383when did the writer state this
@Shinghidorah-ms6zi It's in a Goji-Cronic video I believe if you want the direct screen shot. If I remember correctly, it's his Heisei vs Monsterverse Godzilla
@@godzillaandstuffproduction9383 well it was also stated that she has proportional strength to Beatles who can lift 1,000 times their own body weight. 135,000 times 1,000 is 135 million. Meaning she can lift 135 million tons. The average tectonic plate is 20-40 million tons so yeah the muto prime could probably break a tectonic plate. She probably chooses weaker tectonic plates to break so it would be less effort
I really loved this video and I agree with everything, and I think the Heisei and MV fans just get along . For once
Hi indo
@@_xiryu_ hi xD
I agree with the IQ of Mv, but you forgot a part where Heisei once interacted with humans in i think godzilla v destroyah
Didn't Heisei G absorb nuclear energy in the 84 movie? I think MVG would win, but damn it would be a fun fight to watch.
Back to absorbing radiation, I've always assumed any Godzilla in general would get stronger being near a source of radiation. If that's the case, I wonder how the atomic breath would come into play if they would just feed each other radiation?
Cry heisei fanboys Legendary is the goat!
Comp mv is terraria golem victim
@@destsoloswCAP
I think strength and speed should clearly go to Heisei. Breaking a freaking tectonic plate with a kaiju's body is far more impressive than any strength feat of MV's. Speed should be a no brainer, Space Godzilla escape from a black hole and both he and Mogera were capable of fighting during interstellar speeds making them bare minimum ftl and Godzilla was keeping up with them no problem. Another thing you forgot to mention is Heisei insane adaptability. One moment his atomic breath does no damage, then the next, he's practically one shotting them. Everything else makes sense though.
Cry Heisei fankid
did my eyes lie to me? did i rly just see a person write abt how it is impressive to break a very thin tectonic plate and think space godzilla would go full speed all the time? thats like saying you're faster than flash bc you beam him in a race when he was walking 4 mph while you walking 5 mph i swear heisei fanboys amaze me with their stupidity
I like this video, I’m not no power scaler but this seems correct
bro casually ended the most heated debate in minutes, MV godzilla sweeps
i am going to choose legendary becouse its my favourite if he loose i am still going to cheer him up and be proud of him
edit:w-wait... I WON?
LEEEEEEES GOOOOOOOOOOO LEGENDARY IS THE KING! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
I mean but just because he is your Favorit doesn't mean he is stronger, Heisei basiclly one shots legendary
@@aarons1705 i know but i still cheer for him,
its like cheering for like a football team thath you know he is going to loose, but you don't ever know if they are going to win or loose...
or you change team every time?
@@vegitobluekkx2069 fair enouth
@@aarons1705GxK goji is like amped up Showa goji. Bro was just tossing titans around like they were a ball of some sort😂
@@Soren_.-24 I haven't watch the movie yet, in germany its Release date is the 4th but I already know without even watching the new movie that he isn't comparable to Showa or heisei
This is a very well-reasoned analysis and I find myself agreeing with you.
The only thing I'd disagree with is the whole "SpaceGodzilla black hole" situation. That was just a theory from the humans as to where SpaceGodzilla had come from, and no concrete evidence was ever offered in the movie to prove it. (If SpaceGoji really had survived a black hole and outputted its power he'd be vapourizing the Solar System just by firing his beams.) Similar, Legendary Godzilla's breath being "the strongest thing in nature" doesn't work as a feat because it's a statement that isn't backed up by Legendary Godzilla doing anything stronger than drilling a hole through the Earth. I'd say those two statements can be discounted entirely in any analysis of these two Godzillas fighting.
That was quite the mouthful, but either way your video is really good! Could you do Evolved Godzilla vs Monsterverse Ghidorah next? I'm curious to see how Godzilla's latest form stacks up against the False King.
Tbh, Spacegoji not obliterating the Solar System with his Beams also apply to other characters that have survived Black Holes, taking for example, Godzilla Earth himself, who thanks to Void proved to be able to support and output a Black Hole (knowing that he literally blew up three of them), but doesn't just obliterate the Solar System with his Particle Ray.
This just as Space, can be explaining as either concentrating the energy of their attacks as an attempt to reduce the damage they would cause to their surroundings, with Earth not willing to destroy the planet he lives in and Space preferring to take advantage of Earth (as shown in the film with his crystal towers that doubled as an infinite energy source for him).
Imo, in this case statements do apply pretty nicely, as Spacegoji's blackhole origin is consistently supported by them.
The Godzilla PS4 game even mentions it if I remember correctly.
PS: Evolved most likely wins against MZ.
If I remember he's canonically stronger than his peak on 2019 as Thermo.
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I don’t know why people say they heisei lifted an island, he did not. Ppl also say he’s stronger than Earth physically.
Heisei’s best lifting feat is throwing mecha Godzilla (150K tons)
Earths best feat is PICKING UP A MOUNTAIN WHEN WAKING UP (OVER 100 MILLION TONS) (I think it was the mountain was that heavy)
Finally, someone understands that MV would win
This is why you are a goated yter
I can accept the outcome. Both Godzillas are two of my top favorites, so I’m fine with this.
🍿I absolutely love watching people argue in the comments, it's so entertaining
take the L heisei fan boys / power scalers for once we actually have a proper Debate yes, i have had it with power scalers saying if heisei touchs a building the world just explodes
To quote scout
Grass grows
Birds fly
Suns shines
And brother!
The darkness is coming.........
You need to run.
Ikr. I’m fed up with the Heisei fans saying that Heisei one taps the universe.
@@tdwwolf6107 yeah what happened to the good old days where fans could just enjoy a conversation about how this Godzilla could do against this godzilla without the pointless calculations that ruin the point of even asking
@@Rhinoxsaurus Why do calculations ruin the point of asking?
@@RoughTopic if me and my friend asked each other between two characters who would win in a fight, we list what feats they've done( on screen, no statements actually shown to us ) and then somebody comes and say this character should just by farting because this pixel equals to the universe or this statement is very literal( half the time they're not). Why should I bother ask if the answer I'm gonna get is there is no fight for this fictional character cause I use math therefore I'm smarter than you.
Hesiei fanboys gonna hate this vid
Heisei negs, with or without powerscaling
He proved it wasn’t the case.
@@milljump4845
No, he used Battle analysis wrong.
Yall are all wrong godzilla is way stronger
What I like about these kinds of videos is the comment section.
The best part
@@Officialfda See this guy understands.
I'm sorry but this is bullsh*t, Mv godzilla literally can't even scratch Heisei and considering that heisei's atomic breath can hurt spacegodzilla who can survive multible Supernova's is enouth to say it would one shot Mv godzilla+heisei only gets stronger the longer he fights while Mv would just run out of stamina.
MV fans with the random ass KU pfps coming to your location
Bro just ignored the entire video XD
@@jameszhao1428 No I haven't, he didn't show any feat that bring Mv godzilla even close to heisei's power level
@@aarons1705 why are fda's feats not valid?
@@jameszhao1428
For lacking context.
Like there's quite a bit going on Heisei's favor coming from the official guides without the use of powerscaling.
Reaction speed?
Confirmation both in film and guides of being consistently faster than light.
Fighting capability?
Heisei has done some kudo s--t on the movies, being able to do a headlock throw on a Mecha Godzilla that weights 150k tons.
Etc.
The video is well researched for MV Goji's but lacks a lot in terms of the information that clears a lot of Heisei thanks to the limits that the special effects used by the Era.
Like straight up, Heisei canonically runs at 300 mph (or 600 mph with calcs. . . Gotta love Fire Rodan), something that can't really be shown on a 242 pound suit.
I would like to see Gojira vs Minus one
Gojira steals in durability and experience+Battle IQ but that’s really it.
It's good to remember that just cause monsterverse's juicy thighs beats heisei doesn't mean he's better or worse than heisei
(I like mv cause he's a hand to hand demon and even though ion fw heisei I can respect the people who like him)
Heisei fanboys after this 💀. I love you fda.
No I just think fda is good but this video is trash as it makes no sense
Legendary fans after watching a powerscaller do this topic 😭 Heisei fans after watching a power scaller "Thank you for saving me from goofy ahh people👍"
@@LionelBeckleswhat are you talking about? It’s a opinion you doofus grow up.
@@LionelBecklesyou're basically proving their point on how ridiculously toxic powerscalers are LMAO
With this being said , it's "power scaler" not "power scaller" hope you notice that, and their video isnt trash is pretty good
@@saidzilla226Bruh im 9 and I know how to powerscale you never watched Godzilla king of the monsters or Goji Chronic LMAO silly goose😂
I think the big radioactive lizard wins or what do you think
heiseh stans aint eating good with this one🔥
(fax)
Here come the Heisei fanboys
watch goji chronics hesei vs mv
He powerscaled it, FDA just analysed it
@@oliyes406nice pvzgw2 Picture
Power scaling has so many things wrong with it, don’t take that at face value.
@@oliyes406 fda still used something similar to powerscaling
@@dencocreations1701 Powerscaling does have a few issues but its the most viable way to know wich character is stronger than the other
Good video, but what i really want to know is if this means MV can defeat destoroyah.
Finally some one who can’t ally understand monsterverse is stronger than people think it is
Dude he could explode freely
Your art is sick btw
Bruh heisei would ragdoll monsterverse goji and disintegrate him with his uranium atomic heat ray
Not really, Heisei needs to absorb an Uranium radiation source to get said Atomic Breath.
But he does get a supercharge without much issue tbh, that same ability is what ended up causing his death as Burning.
@redmartin6237 he needs to absorb A TON of radiation to go burning, he just needs a bit for his red heat ray. Plus he always has his normal spiral heat ray that severed King Ghidorahs middle head.
Yup, i knew this would happen 😌
(p.s keep making those essays it aint gonna do anything.)
he literally one shots mv,he lifted smg from the head and kept him still in the air then threw him,and i think the uranium heat ray scaling i shouldnt state it everyone should know it
@@danielkamehameha It must've done something. I mean, you're basically admitting to running away like a bitch.