Alright so I only briefly touched up upon thermo vs evolved at the beginning of the video and for those who STILL want to say evo > thermo, let me give a lengthy explanation. So the main argument is that monarch hasn't ever seen readings like this, in reference to evolved. The issue is, monarch DOESN't have readings of thermo. No powerlevels, no heat output. Even when asking the author, gregg keyes, he mentions the power levels are different but evolved isn't going to EXPLODE this time. The significance of that is well, thermo WASN't going to explode, nuke amp goji was. Now, nuke amp goji's atomic breath, despite being fired onto ghidorah for 18 seconds did NOTHING to him. Base evo is compared to nuke amp goji. 20x evo is obviously much more powerful. Well, if thermo's pulses can do exponentially more damage than 18 seconds of an amped atomic breath, it's clear thermo is insanely powerful. Looking at supercharged evo, when firing on shimo who has relative durability to ghidorah, she withstood it for 4 seconds. To add insult to injury, ghidorah was amped by 100x after absorbing ALL of the electricity in boston. These 100x gravity beams did what to thermo again? Made him laugh. Unless you can prove that shimo and ghidorah's durability ISN't relative, it's clear which of the two versions of godzilla are more powerful. ONE MORE THING, shimo fought ghidorah before and SHE couldn't even kill him as it's implied that ghidorah had already fought godzilla and mothra and was on his last limb here. Thermo FODDERIZED a 100x amped ghidorah....
So where does this 100x amp for ghidorah come from? Most of that electricity he absorbed was spent in the wing attack, plus the gravity’s beams look just like before.
0:38 "like the one the Titan had released in Boston". It means that the novel refers to thermo explosions, since Godzilla did not explode in his sub charged form. Evolved is stronger for the simple fact that he contains more radiation in his body, the more radiation the stronger he becomes. Thermo's body is not adapted to withstand so much radiation, so he constantly expels it.
No x2 1: they were referring to Boston goji since he WAS going to blow up, but mothra allowed him to survive this event, and 2:as I said thermo was only possible because of mothra's sacrifice, which is why he's on a level goji's body shouldn't be able to handle, and btw Thermo isn't just a nuke amp, since it was stated that his power in Boston was rising by the minute, also he wastes all the energy in seconds, meanwhile evolved lasts for days, so thermo has both s higher energy output and better feats, barbenheimer incarnate is not making it out of this one sadly
@@petroshalkos3453No, in KoTM it was said that Godzilla would go thermo nuclear and thus he would explode. And the novel mentions " stronger than ever before" that already makes evolved stronger than thermo.
@@tduck1858but evolved from got rocked by beast glove Kong while Thermo 2 shoted Ghidorah, so if you are saying that Evolved is stronger than Thermo then that means you are saying Beast Glove Kong is stronger than Thermo and Ghidorah?
Tbh, I hope you’re right about thermo being stronger than supercharged evolved. It just doesn’t make sense that Shimo tanked a supercharged evolved beam to the head for 4 seconds when it should be much stronger than a thermo pulse. However, despite the Argo flying away, that doesn’t mean they still didn’t get readings of thermo as they weren’t actually that far away. Also, can’t they track him from anywhere on the surface of the Earth?
Fda, We haven't seen a SERIOUS Shimo yet, It's stated in the Novel that Evolved is stronger than Thermonuclear, Besides I won't hate your take, You still did good.
im not sure if that was in a novel,but somewhere there was a statement that MG's beam is,like,a million times hotter than the sun. i dont thing you can relate on these types of things. no hate,just saying.
@@Frotheru_The_Dragon What do you mean I can't relate on these type of things? What I said about "We haven't seen a SERIOUS Shimo yet" is not in the novel, So you're thinking that Shimo was serious while in the Hollow Earth fight scene and Rio de Janeiro fight scene? She was controlled there, I don't believe that Shimo was serious at those scenes, Also she never showed her full power in the movie.
@@Frotheru_The_Dragon There's no proof, This is my own take, If you don't like it, Then go, I will change my mind for confirmed statements in the future.
2:49, he may have lost fat, but he got a few extra dorsals, arms and head are a lil bigger and most important of all, his molecular density increased. Yeah uh his weight would actually be similar to before evolving. 3:23 uhhhhh, Godzilla’s body is still extremely hot, wouldn’t that make it even easier for him to damage ghidorah with a stomp. 6:34 The spiral ray is way stronger than the gravity beams btw sooo uhhh, yeah. 7:00 btw those “gravity beam cuts” are likely from Ghidorah’s bites and not the gravity beams as on the film godzilla was only hit 2 before that moment by them and bith where in antartica, and neither were on that part so uhhh yeah. On kotm Godzilla was severely weakened and received the amp from a nuke. In GxK after he wakes up in the colloseum, hes at his peak health, aka 100%, he absorbs a full nuckear olant, and the entire energy on tiamat’s lair, plus, epwhen he was in Cadiz, water turned into steam as he entered it, meaning he was already heating up, something not even nuke amped godzilla did. On top of this all, Shimo clearly was hesitant ti obey skar, and likely didn’t fought to her fullest, as well as most likely being on a bad health condition due to, yknow, being locked up in a dark cave for god knows how long. Shimo *might* lose to Thermo but its not gonna be a damm stomp, rather an actual fight.
I agree on every single point tbh, many people dont take into account what Godzilla had to absorb on both films. A single nuke from near death state and mothra’s essence in kotm, and an entire nuclear plant from peak condition and the most radioactive place on the plane plus tiamat’s dna.
@@shahcamranahmed9056 Whenever I tell someone that evo G is just 20X stronger than his blue form, they always say something stupid like "Evolved Godzilla was shown to be 20x stronger than himself in 2019 including thermo" Im not even kidding someone actually said that😭
The thing is with Greg Keyes it’s that he can’t really give out an answer on who is the strongest, yes he is the one who wrote the novel but it had to be approved by legendary. Same thing goes with the Directors and writers for the Graphic Novels, Legendary can always just change it down the line. So yes Greg Keyes would say something like Supercharged Evolve is in relative power to Nuke amped Godzilla, but at the same time in the Novel, Director Hampton refers to Thermo Godzilla as in she “feared an explosion, like the one the Titan released in Boston” The point is we really can’t get a straight forward answer on which is his strongest form…. (Yet)
Since Kiryu’s absolute zero cannon’s is the same degrees as shimo’s beam, does that mean the absolute zero cannon would melt too? Since I thought Kiryu was the strongest.
Supercharged evolved has a statement that blatantly puts him above burning Godzilla prior to absorbing tiamat’s dna and all of the energy in the largest energy hotspot on the planet was compared to burning to a lesser extent Base evolved>>thermo Supercharged evolved>>>>>>>>thermo Shimo>>>base evolved Shimo=supercharged evolved Shimo negs Thermo
@@Shinghidorah-ms6zi because evolved has far more energy to use His form prior to evolution is compared to burning so with the massive amount of energy he used to evolve, he’s automatically above burning
Yea this fight wasn’t even close when shimo was teased I really thought she was going to be like at least little bit stronger then godzilla and kong turns out she is just a guard dog for scar king
“Godzilla was about to explode like an atom bomb. He wouldn’t have died, he just would have released all that energy in one big wave.” THANK YOU my boy. It absolutely infuriates me when Monsterverse content creators suggest that would have killed him. The idea of that is absolutely ridiculous so thank you for publicly opposing that nonsense take.
2 things that can support amped evo over thermo In the novel BASE gxk goji has the same readings as nuke amped boston goji And in the boston fight he is equal to ghidorah Thermo 3 shot ghidorah so he is 3.3 times stronger then ghidorah And since amped evo is 20x stronger then base evo, which is a bare minimum compared to nuke amp boston goji So thermo is 3.3x stronger then base GXK And amped evo being 20x stronger then base, makes him 16.7 times stronger then thermo Thermo still bodies shimo due to hax though.
Evolved Godzilla is not 20x stronger your just dumb if you believe that he stomped Kong three times on the chest and thermo steps through ghidorah who has a stronger chest than Kong also his attacks don’t do anything to Skar king or shimo either
His atomic breath did nothing but kncock Skar king down who is relative to kong so does that technically mean Skar king is 20x more durable than kong since he had a burn on his back from normal gojis beam hell no
@@Ghidorahman64 amped evo is stronger, not base And thermo stomped on ghidorahs chest realeasing ghidorahs energy. And skar kong just dodged evos breath. Kong is still way more durable
@@321gggnils spiral evolved is stronger than base but not thermo also Skar king got hit by it twice once on his back and once on his hands when he reached out for the crystal
@@Ghidorahman64 amped evo is literaly 20x stronger due to his evolution And I alr gave the powergap between thermo and ghidorah, and thermo and evo Base GXK >= nuke amped boston > base ghidorah If the lowball for base evo is a 2x pkwer increase. And thermo is a 3.3 increase from nuke amped boston Then thermo is 1.3 times stronger then base evo And still just lowballing amped evo, that being 2x stronger again. Amped evo would be baseline .7 times stronber then thermo And skar king would have barley got nicked by the beam, because I never saw him get hit
Fda, I have a suggestion. Could you do Showa Gigan and Final Wars Gigan? Since I believe you did Showa vs Final Wars Godzilla, I would love to see two different versions of the cyborg monster to the battle of the death. Great vid as well. I love the simulations.
Kids nowadays doesnt like real nature power, they like anime/too powerful evolved form with supersaying pink power bc "urm actually pink power is much cooler than thermo so evolved cant be beaten"🤓☝️
I think shino has a chance if she has enough distance to shoot Godzilla from far away to try to freeze him and you gotta remember it's not regular ice so it won't just melt or evaporate instantly
@@OfficialfdaNo. Its not. Godzila preparing for Shimo got a new ability you can say. Thermo nuclear regulation i believe was the name. Thats how he broke out of the ice. Shimo's breath damages the radiation atoms. Only Evolved Godzila has this. Thermo does not. Shimo will knock him out of it.
@@Officialfda i seee movie and shimo was dominating all time against thermonuclear godzila, and godzilla couldnot make any dmg on shimo, just shimo way strong and he shoots his ice like godzila does with atomicbreath
@@OfficialfdaDude, they literally saying "A radiation that slows atoms down, makes them stop in their tracks. Not just something cold, the...the essence of cold". It's not normal ice. Shimo scales above Thermo, according to the novel and VS Battle Wiki. And you miss the fact that Shimo was a kind-hearted Titan that was only forced under pain to fight. Also the fact she can reach Absolute Zero, if she want. She obviously can regulate the temperature, which allowed Skar King to ride on her back in the first place. She dominated Godzilla in the past and froze Ghidorah in a 'singular event', seperated from the ice age. Their are both alive since she had no intend to kill them. Dr. Andrews replied to Trapper's question if she froze Ghidorah and started the last ice age, with "the iwi called her the original titan, but I was translating in a hurry. It could also mean ultimate or quintessential titan." Implying her to be the most supreme example of her kind.
Yeah. Shimo vs. Godzilla done by a Godzilla fan. Novelization already confirmed that Shimo is the ultimate titan. Shimo freezing the entire planet is the most powerful feat so far in the Monsterverse. It is much easier to freeze Thermonuclear Godzilla than to freeze the Earth. Also Shimo's ice blast can slow atoms. The power to freeze the Earth>>>>>>>>>>>The power to melt buildings in a small area. Shimo>>>>>>>>>>Thermonuclear Godzilla.
Yeah. Shimo vs Godzilla done by a Shimo fan. SHIMO'S. ICE. DOES. NOT. KILL. TITANS. even a monke survived it untill was thrown down. Also,it is not confirmed that its easier to freeze Thermo Goji than the Earth(okay thats too much,i know but still). PLUS,how much TIME did it cost to freeze the Earth? Was that,like, seconds? I dont think so. So you using that feat is stupud.
@@Frotheru_The_Dragon Shimo was mentioned to freeze Greenland in minutes in the novelization. The power output to cause the ice age in the Entire Earth is so much more powerful than the power to melt buildings in a small area.
You realize Ice Age ≠ the whole planet is covered in ice. During the ice age there were a lot of areas of Earth with grass and normal just chiller weather. Plus, freezing titans doesn’t kill them in case for Ghidorah or Godzilla.
I just realized that every foe kong faces he gets thrown around like a rag doll Example: Kong skull island he 2017 the skull crawler throws him with his tail Godzilla vs kong he gets thrown by Godzilla with his jaw And Godzilla x kong shimu throws Kong with his jaw Then Kong uses suko as a weapon to attack the other kongs 😂😂😂
It all depends on where the fight will take place that's if they even fight. It's stated that Shimo has supreme cryokinesis and with her intelligence she can outlast Godzilla. But like i said before if they fight.
Also ive seen that the thermonuclear bomb in kotm was 1.5 megatons which is 100 million degrees or more and base goji tanked that with not even a small scratch or mark but amped ghidorahs gravity beams literally burned him but... thermo godzilla... literally laughed at them... this motherf*cker LAUGHED at them...
@Frotheru_The_Dragon but in the novel of gxk supercharged evolved godzilla energy is way powerful than thermo godzilla because he took more powerful radiation from plants and bombs that is way more powerful than the nuclear bomb that got him Amp
I’m unsubbing fda. Edit: I just watched GXK and KOTM again and welp, evolved ain’t doing shit to that thing. Also the 20 X thing didn’t mean he has 20 X more energy, it meant he can hold 20 X more energy then before, I hate myself
Can’t say I like the name “Thermo Godzilla” much, but I’m hyped. (Also, IT’S BURNING GODZILLA! not “Thermo”, in order to get people not confused just put “MV Burning”)… IM EDGING
Bro is saying evo goji atomic breath is weaker than ghidorah gravity beam, even though ghidorah one shot mothra isnt comparable to godzilla drilling a hole through the earth, also, isnt base form goji in the fight with scylla is almost as strong as ampped goji in boston, if so wouldn't supercharged evo goji be almost as strong or stronger than thermo thats the real question
for evolved vs thermo i guess it's depends, if thermo used his pulse he will buff evolved godzilla, evolved godzilla won't explode bc he has insane amount of capacity, if evolved godzilla beamed on thermo he will buff thermo too and might give him more time fighting, however in the end thermo will lose his thermo power and back to normal, so evolved godzilla will beat thermo
Maybe about that melting king ghidorah stomp maybe it is because he got pulsed by thermo 2 times wich are very powerful by all means I'm just saying that it maybe made his flesh softer cause it never said he gain strength (even though it is a possibility) and also absolute zero won’t get melted easily so🤷🏻♂my opinion though
Shimo was not under mind control skar king was controlling her using pain it was shown in the movie when skar king used the crystal shimo would recoil in pain.
Shimu caused the Ice Age around the globe. I personally do not believe that in happened in real life.( The Ice Age, I mean.) (I totally agree with your animation and its analysis. ) I am talking about overall power scalling, not who wins. ) That feat is more powerful than any of Thermo's. The amount energy that is generated on both sides is totally different. Thermonuclear Godzilla did NOT destroy the entirity of East coast and parts of Canada with his pulse, and if he did, maybe we could compare the overall output damage they could cause. Not to mention Godzilla did not have the luxury to use more pulses; he was forced to revert back to his weaker, less powerful state. Whilst Shimu doesn't need any power ups. Just like Ghidorah's hurricanes around the American continent created more energy than Thermonuclear Godzilla or multiple hydrogen bombs combined. I know most people would not wanna hear it, but it's true. Godzillas form was also temporary, as I stated. Think of it this way. A talented martial artist (like Bruce Lee or Jackie Chan) fights a man who is a an accomplished powerlifter and has a much bigger bone density than an average human.(Having bones that dense in real life is a rare anomaly. Those people have a hard time being damaged in car accidents.) Let's also be a bit quirky. This strong-boned powerlifter is also Anatoly Kashpirovskiy. ( Anatoly can treat certain people's health issues simply by talking to them, either through a device or real time. I am not making this up. Search videos about him here on TH-cam. The one in Los Angeles and other vids with captions. He is a hypnosist. He caused many people to be helathier before the fall of the USSR. Shimu did the Ice Age thing...) So the m.artist easily beats this person by performing a bunch of moves, but the persom is overall more powerful; people can feel his presence anywhere in the world by listening to him or in that fight, he loses, yes, but his body is way more powerful. Just like Shimu's frost breath could be felt all over world eventually, not Thermo's pulses. I see see this world differently.
Evo Godzilla is way stronger overall. Thermo fanboy. Read the novel, it states evo is way more powerful than thermo. I’m not hating tho everyone has their opinion
thermos fire was only able to melt buildings when shimo caused the ice age and froze all of greenland, yeah thermo doesn’t have enough power in heat to do anything.
(Arguments for thermo>=evo, not saying I necessarily agree). As you said, more radiation=durability and power for goji, and goji can withhold 20x that before. Meaning his thermo state doesn’t have as much radiation as his evo. Also, Greg said he personally doesn’t know. He is forced to add stuff into novels for narrative and all that, not everything he personally believes. And he says the energy levels were higher, but different. In control. So that’s not really a debunk. And, it’s said than anything they’re seen. Not anything they’ve ever documented, which would include themro. I personally do believe thermo>evo, but it isn’t by much. Thermo beats Shimo, high diff
Because Shimo never fought him my guy. He was side effect of her ice age. Godzila and Mothra beat him and before he could escape Godzila pushed him into the water and then he got frozen. Shimo wasnt anywhere near him.
@@SpaceWafflerYT huh? no, it was said that shimo froze ghidorah but it was already stated before that godzilla was the one who beat ghidorah. Alone. Shimo froze ghidorah as a consequence from her creating the ice age
fda stay true my friend, it doesn't matter how many subs you lose because unlike the others you don't spread missinformation, this is more important than any number out there !!!
But what he said isn't true, he might not be lying intentionally but misinfo is misinfo. Here's an idea on why supercharged evolved is stronger. Thermo power is less condensed and unstable which is why he melts everything around him, Evolved Godzilla now has 20x the radiation and because he has more storage he goes well over what made thermo's power unstable. The reason for the power ups gives a clear idea who's stronger, a nuke given to a near death radiation depleted Godzilla from the oxygen destroyer and mothra's energy made Godzilla go burning, a nuclear power plant, that on average have a lot more radiation than nuke and made him able to use nuclear pulses without going burning then Godzilla, said by Jia's mom, absorbed from the biggest radiation stockpile on earth, including the hollow earth, all nukes, nuclear powerplants, etc,pure movie context points to evolved being stronger.
@@rjsblanket3024just so you know all of what you just said is pure fan cannon as it was stated during kotm climax fight Godzilla's power was rising by the minute, and that's for an 8 hour fight (evening to morning), and monarch left about halfway through the fight, and while SOME of the cast stayed they had no equipment to monitor the energy level's of goji, or the mood to do so while running for their lives, and begging of gxk goji was stated to be RELEVANT to Boston goji, not equal, Godzilla and Kong are relevant, and they are definitely not equals, also he never absorbed Scylla's or tiamat's radiation, as he was never stated or shown to be able to do so, and also only relevant thing he has done is sucking up the radiation from the power plant, and he didn't do that to their bodies, only reason he got tiamat's glow is that he evolved in her layer, and I'm using this "he absorbed their radiation" feat cuz goji guy did, and it's just fan cannon, also, evolved goji is stated by the designer to be inspired of kaio ken x20 Goku, and also he worked on this along with Adam and also these design ideas were implemented, basically evolved, in order to stay evolved, consumes radiation, and also burns up his fat reserves for energy, which is why he gets skinnier throughout the film, so he is wasting energy by existing, also the unfathomable amounts of radiation he absorbed, the blue form couldn't hold it in and was constantly emitting it, so he had less to use up for his evolution, also knowing how strong tiamat is based on the novels, and now her being supposedly amped, goji is sure to have wasted a good chunk of his radiation reserves to safely get rid of her, so he had way less to evolve, also since goji guy still used this imma repeat the obvious, evolved has x20 the capacity, not the energy, that's different, now let's get back to kotm, as explained monarch left about halfway through the fight where Godzilla's power was constantly rising, and assuming the fight lasted about 8 hours, and assuming that he gained 1/20 of his energy per minute, which could be an understatement considering people without equipment could tell a significant difference in power when seeing goji fighting throughout the first couple minutes, so, by the time the fight finished in goji should have got an additional 24 times his base capacity, and on top of his actual tops that's 25, and as I said evolved wasted the majority of his radiation, and as if that wasn't enough Thermo wasted all of it, on top of mothra's radiation, in about 30 seconds. Btw the statement about his top power in Boston would be true if he stayed on the supercharged form, as we know monarch left because they thought Godzilla would die of too much power and explode, now that would be the case if mothra didn't sprinkle him with plot armor and thus allow him to enter his thermonuclear state which has a clear gap from his supercharged state as Ghidorah still had the upper hand in combat 1 on 1 situations, and than what happened is thermo tanking his beams and laughing, the beams base goji got knocked over, pushed back and got cut into by, those beams were s joke to him, and now he killed Ghidorah with 2 pulses and a stomp, and that's even more impressive concidering how Ghidorah's regeneration works, as we saw in the Isla de mara sequence Ghidorah when above Rodan's volcano (a radiation source) could regenerate a whole head in seconds, and I believe it's safe to assume thermo was emitting way more radiation than that that Ghidorah could utilize to become invincible out if sheer regeneration, but Godzilla still outpaced that regeneration cuz he's just THAT strong, also if we take statements as cannon (which ik you will to attempt to get your barbenheimer incarnate back on top) he was stated to be at his strongest and with the most energy ever only when hitting supercharged evolved, so base evolved and blue thermo are probably bellow middle of Boston fight goji, who is the previous peak monarch had for Godzilla, and it was implied that his power was rising at a continually faster pace, meaning the above calculations are most likely a complete understatement, and since supercharged was about equal to Shimo, all 3 of him, Shimo and Ghidorah are at the same level of power, since Ghidorah was barely beating late Boston fight goji while Shimo is on par with supercharged evolved goji who is directly superior to middle of Boston goji, and based on all of the above I believe these would be some interesting match ups, but I guess evolved slams and all the proof I just gave is misinformation since it proved all the gxk fanboys wrong 🤷🏻♂️
@@Frotheru_The_Dragonnope just watching the movie you can see this, shimo was ALWAYS HOLDING BACK, when she wasn't playing around with Godzilla she send him flying with 1 Leg with no diff, she was being controlled and not using full power she was just doing what scar king wanted to
Ghidorah was screaming in pain from blue atomic breath as stated in the novel. Shimo was unfazed by any spiral breaths. And as stated in the novel. Shimo was only getting angrier as the fight went on. Oh yeah btw Shimo didn't go all out as it was stated she didn't wish to hurt Kong or Godzilla ALL OF THIS IS CANNON (unlike this Opinionated video)
Though I agree, thermo is stupidly powerful, i think you lacked a little bit on shimos durability. She tanked the, by far strongest atomic breath Godzilla ever had in the mv. She also did not even suffer from a scratch from it. And all this happen while she didn’t even want it fight him, skar king locked her onto kong the entire fight. I think shimo could endure at least up to four pulses before she was to fall. More than Ghidorah imo
Evolved > Thermo It’s even proven in the films, in KOTM, Godzilla absorbed a nuke and Mothra’s ashes In GxK, Godzilla absorbed the radiation from a nuclear power plant (which can hold more radiation than a nuke) and the radiation from the most radioactive place on earth. And you could argue that he also absorbed the radiation from Scylla and Tiamat after killing them
@@Officialfda defiantly a good argument but until we figure out if shimos durability is worse or better than ghidorah I think evolved is stronger especially since gvk Godzillas breath was able to drill to hollow earth and evolved is stronger sure shimo didn’t get hit as much or for as long but she took it like nothing
@@GojiStan64Its better. Ghidorah was screaming in pain from blue atomic breath as stated in the novel. Shimo was unfazed by any spiral breaths. And as stated in the novel. Shimo was only getting angrier as the fight went on. Oh yeah btw Shimo didnt go all out as it was stated she didnt wish to hurt Kong or Godzila.
@@Chillout18-s9hthen that just gives me a reason to believe shimo has far better durability which hint hint she does and she’s stronger than ghidorah keep in mind Godzilla has to evolve to stand a chance
I generally liked that little simulation style video, reminds me of Death Battle where they compile a ton of info then run a really fun simulation. can't wait for more of those "simulations" as they get better and better
Alright so I only briefly touched up upon thermo vs evolved at the beginning of the video and for those who STILL want to say evo > thermo, let me give a lengthy explanation.
So the main argument is that monarch hasn't ever seen readings like this, in reference to evolved. The issue is, monarch DOESN't have readings of thermo. No powerlevels, no heat output. Even when asking the author, gregg keyes, he mentions the power levels are different but evolved isn't going to EXPLODE this time. The significance of that is well, thermo WASN't going to explode, nuke amp goji was. Now, nuke amp goji's atomic breath, despite being fired onto ghidorah for 18 seconds did NOTHING to him. Base evo is compared to nuke amp goji. 20x evo is obviously much more powerful. Well, if thermo's pulses can do exponentially more damage than 18 seconds of an amped atomic breath, it's clear thermo is insanely powerful. Looking at supercharged evo, when firing on shimo who has relative durability to ghidorah, she withstood it for 4 seconds. To add insult to injury, ghidorah was amped by 100x after absorbing ALL of the electricity in boston. These 100x gravity beams did what to thermo again? Made him laugh.
Unless you can prove that shimo and ghidorah's durability ISN't relative, it's clear which of the two versions of godzilla are more powerful.
ONE MORE THING, shimo fought ghidorah before and SHE couldn't even kill him as it's implied that ghidorah had already fought godzilla and mothra and was on his last limb here. Thermo FODDERIZED a 100x amped ghidorah....
Well evolved isn’t 20x stronger it said energy CAPACITY magnified meaning he can hold and contain 20x more energy
Thermo>>>>>>>>>evo
So where does this 100x amp for ghidorah come from? Most of that electricity he absorbed was spent in the wing attack, plus the gravity’s beams look just like before.
@@smokedog7333another point 😭
@@cantaro5958 Comes from the grid
Low budget Goji Center 🗣🗣 (im all for it)
no low budget godzilla guy
no they are difrent channels with difrent scenarios him and godzilla guy are friends and him and goji center already we're both in a video at once
@@Glitch-Xillaboth of them low budget to be honest
0:38 "like the one the Titan had released in Boston". It means that the novel refers to thermo explosions, since Godzilla did not explode in his sub charged form.
Evolved is stronger for the simple fact that he contains more radiation in his body, the more radiation the stronger he becomes. Thermo's body is not adapted to withstand so much radiation, so he constantly expels it.
The difference is that thermo is releasing all his energy at once while evo keeps a lot of it in. That also wasn’t the statement he was referring to
How does evolved have more energy than thermo?
No x2
1: they were referring to Boston goji since he WAS going to blow up, but mothra allowed him to survive this event, and 2:as I said thermo was only possible because of mothra's sacrifice, which is why he's on a level goji's body shouldn't be able to handle, and btw Thermo isn't just a nuke amp, since it was stated that his power in Boston was rising by the minute, also he wastes all the energy in seconds, meanwhile evolved lasts for days, so thermo has both s higher energy output and better feats, barbenheimer incarnate is not making it out of this one sadly
@@petroshalkos3453No, in KoTM it was said that Godzilla would go thermo nuclear and thus he would explode.
And the novel mentions " stronger than ever before" that already makes evolved stronger than thermo.
@@tduck1858but evolved from got rocked by beast glove Kong while Thermo 2 shoted Ghidorah, so if you are saying that Evolved is stronger than Thermo then that means you are saying Beast Glove Kong is stronger than Thermo and Ghidorah?
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Evolved brain rot my skibidi thermo negs beta evolved
@@Officialfdawrong
@@NowImTheShocker6085wrong
Barbie lizard glaze is crazy
Evolved Godzilla is stronger they executed the form wrong on screen that's why.
bro turned from the most deadly player in ku to a low budget goji center💀
Todays my birthday also and this was an amazing gift for me
Thank you FDA for uploading videos. They are really the reason I’m still a Godzilla fan
Ngl this was quite a suprising turnout and I love a good plot twist. And next weeks vid man oh that oughta be INTERESTING! Keep up the good work btw
This was such an enjoyable video! I always had a feeling that thermo was stronger than evo, all the points you made are too solid to be counter argued
The battle we have been waiting for.
Tbh, I hope you’re right about thermo being stronger than supercharged evolved. It just doesn’t make sense that Shimo tanked a supercharged evolved beam to the head for 4 seconds when it should be much stronger than a thermo pulse. However, despite the Argo flying away, that doesn’t mean they still didn’t get readings of thermo as they weren’t actually that far away. Also, can’t they track him from anywhere on the surface of the Earth?
Fda, We haven't seen a SERIOUS Shimo yet, It's stated in the Novel that Evolved is stronger than Thermonuclear, Besides I won't hate your take, You still did good.
im not sure if that was in a novel,but somewhere there was a statement that MG's beam is,like,a million times hotter than the sun.
i dont thing you can relate on these types of things.
no hate,just saying.
@@Frotheru_The_Dragon What do you mean I can't relate on these type of things? What I said about "We haven't seen a SERIOUS Shimo yet" is not in the novel, So you're thinking that Shimo was serious while in the Hollow Earth fight scene and Rio de Janeiro fight scene? She was controlled there, I don't believe that Shimo was serious at those scenes, Also she never showed her full power in the movie.
@@whitecrpt uh,proof?
@@Frotheru_The_Dragon There's no proof, This is my own take, If you don't like it, Then go, I will change my mind for confirmed statements in the future.
@@whitecrpt ok
2:49, he may have lost fat, but he got a few extra dorsals, arms and head are a lil bigger and most important of all, his molecular density increased.
Yeah uh his weight would actually be similar to before evolving.
3:23 uhhhhh, Godzilla’s body is still extremely hot, wouldn’t that make it even easier for him to damage ghidorah with a stomp.
6:34 The spiral ray is way stronger than the gravity beams btw sooo uhhh, yeah.
7:00 btw those “gravity beam cuts” are likely from Ghidorah’s bites and not the gravity beams as on the film godzilla was only hit 2 before that moment by them and bith where in antartica, and neither were on that part so uhhh yeah.
On kotm Godzilla was severely weakened and received the amp from a nuke.
In GxK after he wakes up in the colloseum, hes at his peak health, aka 100%, he absorbs a full nuckear olant, and the entire energy on tiamat’s lair, plus, epwhen he was in Cadiz, water turned into steam as he entered it, meaning he was already heating up, something not even nuke amped godzilla did.
On top of this all, Shimo clearly was hesitant ti obey skar, and likely didn’t fought to her fullest, as well as most likely being on a bad health condition due to, yknow, being locked up in a dark cave for god knows how long.
Shimo *might* lose to Thermo but its not gonna be a damm stomp, rather an actual fight.
I agree on every single point tbh, many people dont take into account what Godzilla had to absorb on both films.
A single nuke from near death state and mothra’s essence in kotm, and an entire nuclear plant from peak condition and the most radioactive place on the plane plus tiamat’s dna.
Why do you need to write “uhhh” in your comment? 😂
@@yeojiexunjackson1898 ty for responding to his imformation and giving many points
@@yeojiexunjackson1898 and whats the matter.
Thank your someone that actually knows the truth that Thermo is more powerful than super charged evolved
He’s not
He isn't tho, even the Supercharged Goji after eating a nuclear power plant was stated to be relative to Thermo Godzilla
@@Mrpoop6640 nah he is
@@brothsipper-h5o ok relative is fine but thermo is still stronger
OMG BRO THANK YOU SO MUCH! I've been debating so many people about his thermo form and evo G and it's like they don't understand anything at all!😭🙏🏾
What don't they understand?
@@shahcamranahmed9056 Whenever I tell someone that evo G is just 20X stronger than his blue form, they always say something stupid like "Evolved Godzilla was shown to be 20x stronger than himself in 2019 including thermo" Im not even kidding someone actually said that😭
@@CosmicSkull2 Okay well "including thermo" is certainly not true at all, but evolved Godzilla should still have more radiation than thermo.
@@shahcamranahmed9056 well...trash that...i don't even know the writers name ;-;
The thing is with Greg Keyes it’s that he can’t really give out an answer on who is the strongest, yes he is the one who wrote the novel but it had to be approved by legendary. Same thing goes with the Directors and writers for the Graphic Novels, Legendary can always just change it down the line. So yes Greg Keyes would say something like Supercharged Evolve is in relative power to Nuke amped Godzilla, but at the same time in the Novel, Director Hampton refers to Thermo Godzilla as in she “feared an explosion, like the one the Titan released in Boston” The point is we really can’t get a straight forward answer on which is his strongest form…. (Yet)
Since Kiryu’s absolute zero cannon’s is the same degrees as shimo’s beam, does that mean the absolute zero cannon would melt too? Since I thought Kiryu was the strongest.
Supercharged evolved has a statement that blatantly puts him above burning
Godzilla prior to absorbing tiamat’s dna and all of the energy in the largest energy hotspot on the planet was compared to burning to a lesser extent
Base evolved>>thermo
Supercharged evolved>>>>>>>>thermo
Shimo>>>base evolved
Shimo=supercharged evolved
Shimo negs Thermo
What's supercharged evolved?
Bro already debunked that statement in the video if you watched
Also thermo is releasing all this energy at once while evo is more keeping it in
@@Shinghidorah-ms6zi because evolved has far more energy to use
His form prior to evolution is compared to burning so with the massive amount of energy he used to evolve, he’s automatically above burning
@@officialpothitman9145 when was it compared to burning before
thermo vs evolved 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
evolved is getting cooked sry man
Evolved ez
Evolved ain't lasting 💀💀💀
Thermo will cook him
I am going insane
@chadgorosaurus
We have a question is shimo a alpha titan
No
@@Toji_THE_GHOST_OF_ZENNINshe is, or at least theorized to once have been the alpha in the novelization.
@@cantaro5958 thanks
@@Toji_THE_GHOST_OF_ZENNIN thank you as well
I don’t think she’s an alpha titan, just a strong one.
Yea this fight wasn’t even close when shimo was teased I really thought she was going to be like at least little bit stronger then godzilla and kong turns out she is just a guard dog for scar king
“Godzilla was about to explode like an atom bomb. He wouldn’t have died, he just would have released all that energy in one big wave.” THANK YOU my boy. It absolutely infuriates me when Monsterverse content creators suggest that would have killed him. The idea of that is absolutely ridiculous so thank you for publicly opposing that nonsense take.
This is perfect
2 things that can support amped evo over thermo
In the novel BASE gxk goji has the same readings as nuke amped boston goji
And in the boston fight he is equal to ghidorah
Thermo 3 shot ghidorah so he is 3.3 times stronger then ghidorah
And since amped evo is 20x stronger then base evo, which is a bare minimum compared to nuke amp boston goji
So thermo is 3.3x stronger then base GXK
And amped evo being 20x stronger then base, makes him 16.7 times stronger then thermo
Thermo still bodies shimo due to hax though.
Evolved Godzilla is not 20x stronger your just dumb if you believe that he stomped Kong three times on the chest and thermo steps through ghidorah who has a stronger chest than Kong also his attacks don’t do anything to Skar king or shimo either
His atomic breath did nothing but kncock Skar king down who is relative to kong so does that technically mean Skar king is 20x more durable than kong since he had a burn on his back from normal gojis beam hell no
@@Ghidorahman64 amped evo is stronger, not base
And thermo stomped on ghidorahs chest realeasing ghidorahs energy.
And skar kong just dodged evos breath.
Kong is still way more durable
@@321gggnils spiral evolved is stronger than base but not thermo also Skar king got hit by it twice once on his back and once on his hands when he reached out for the crystal
@@Ghidorahman64 amped evo is literaly 20x stronger due to his evolution
And I alr gave the powergap between thermo and ghidorah, and thermo and evo
Base GXK >= nuke amped boston > base ghidorah
If the lowball for base evo is a 2x pkwer increase.
And thermo is a 3.3 increase from nuke amped boston
Then thermo is 1.3 times stronger then base evo
And still just lowballing amped evo, that being 2x stronger again.
Amped evo would be baseline .7 times stronber then thermo
And skar king would have barley got nicked by the beam, because I never saw him get hit
yo outro song????
Fda, I have a suggestion. Could you do Showa Gigan and Final Wars Gigan? Since I believe you did Showa vs Final Wars Godzilla, I would love to see two different versions of the cyborg monster to the battle of the death. Great vid as well. I love the simulations.
Kids nowadays doesnt like real nature power, they like anime/too powerful evolved form with supersaying pink power bc "urm actually pink power is much cooler than thermo so evolved cant be beaten"🤓☝️
I personally think shimo wins, but that animation made the video perfect
Honestly, I would love to see the GodzillaSaurus in the Jurassic franchise. He might win against Rexy, but stop at the Giganatosaurus.
I think shino has a chance if she has enough distance to shoot Godzilla from far away to try to freeze him and you gotta remember it's not regular ice so it won't just melt or evaporate instantly
You could argue it is normal ice considering she froze over the entirety of Greenland which is just normal ice….
@@OfficialfdaNo. Its not.
Godzila preparing for Shimo got a new ability you can say.
Thermo nuclear regulation i believe was the name.
Thats how he broke out of the ice.
Shimo's breath damages the radiation atoms.
Only Evolved Godzila has this.
Thermo does not.
Shimo will knock him out of it.
@@Officialfda i seee movie and shimo was dominating all time against thermonuclear godzila, and godzilla couldnot make any dmg on shimo, just shimo way strong and he shoots his ice like godzila does with atomicbreath
@@OfficialfdaDude, they literally saying "A radiation that slows atoms down, makes them stop in their tracks. Not just something cold, the...the essence of cold". It's not normal ice.
Shimo scales above Thermo, according to the novel and VS Battle Wiki.
And you miss the fact that Shimo was a kind-hearted Titan that was only forced under pain to fight. Also the fact she can reach Absolute Zero, if she want. She obviously can regulate the temperature, which allowed Skar King to ride on her back in the first place. She dominated Godzilla in the past and froze Ghidorah in a 'singular event', seperated from the ice age. Their are both alive since she had no intend to kill them.
Dr. Andrews replied to Trapper's question if she froze Ghidorah and started the last ice age, with "the iwi called her the original titan, but I was translating in a hurry. It could also mean ultimate or quintessential titan." Implying her to be the most supreme example of her kind.
Yeah. Shimo vs. Godzilla done by a Godzilla fan. Novelization already confirmed that Shimo is the ultimate titan. Shimo freezing the entire planet is the most powerful feat so far in the Monsterverse. It is much easier to freeze Thermonuclear Godzilla than to freeze the Earth. Also Shimo's ice blast can slow atoms. The power to freeze the Earth>>>>>>>>>>>The power to melt buildings in a small area. Shimo>>>>>>>>>>Thermonuclear Godzilla.
Yeah. Shimo vs Godzilla done by a Shimo fan.
SHIMO'S. ICE. DOES. NOT. KILL. TITANS.
even a monke survived it untill was thrown down. Also,it is not confirmed that its easier to freeze Thermo Goji than the Earth(okay thats too much,i know but still). PLUS,how much TIME did it cost to freeze the Earth? Was that,like, seconds? I dont think so. So you using that feat is stupud.
Godzilla burning was compared to a dying star and his core was reaching 100,000,000 Kelvin.
@@Frotheru_The_Dragon Shimo was mentioned to freeze Greenland in minutes in the novelization. The power output to cause the ice age in the Entire Earth is so much more powerful than the power to melt buildings in a small area.
@@ramesesrommella.macatol1247minutes-hours but most likely hours because nothing in the movie even remotely supports this
You realize Ice Age ≠ the whole planet is covered in ice. During the ice age there were a lot of areas of Earth with grass and normal just chiller weather. Plus, freezing titans doesn’t kill them in case for Ghidorah or Godzilla.
The outcome of this battle was unexpected;)
Yo uh, do you know how to reset your data in kaiju universe? (I know its down but when its back up i want a fresh start)
I just realized that every foe kong faces he gets thrown around like a rag doll
Example:
Kong skull island he 2017 the skull crawler throws him with his tail
Godzilla vs kong he gets thrown by Godzilla with his jaw
And Godzilla x kong shimu throws Kong with his jaw
Then Kong uses suko as a weapon to attack the other kongs 😂😂😂
Shin Ultraman vs Monsterverse or pacific rim kaiju
0:00 I believe that when he stomped Kong it wasn’t meant to be fatal, because he was going to end him with his atomic breath
It all depends on where the fight will take place that's if they even fight.
It's stated that Shimo has supreme cryokinesis and with her intelligence she can outlast Godzilla.
But like i said before if they fight.
Evolved Godzilla solos
Cap
@@mikorex4848 no cap the novel said it
solos who and why?
@@Frotheru_The_Dragon Evolved Godzilla solos thermo
@@Kiryugoji02 blud the novel is soft cannon with means every thing they say can be reckoned or just never were cannon to begin with
FDA what’s your discord can you give me a more in depth reason as to why thermo is stronger than evolved Godzilla?
Also ive seen that the thermonuclear bomb in kotm was 1.5 megatons which is 100 million degrees or more and base goji tanked that with not even a small scratch or mark but amped ghidorahs gravity beams literally burned him but... thermo godzilla... literally laughed at them... this motherf*cker LAUGHED at them...
FDA I’m sorry but this is your worst take E V E R, still staying as a sub tho
Or am i
My girl shimo got underpowered:(
@@Lord_SQUIDIOUS bruh she isn't that strong tho
@@mikorex4848 yes she is
@@Lord_SQUIDIOUS is she really
@@mikorex4848 yup
thermo goji fr said: nah id go boom
FINALLY someone says thermo is more powerful than evolved
Supercharged Evolved godzilla vs burning godzilla
burning would still win
@Frotheru_The_Dragon but in the novel of gxk supercharged evolved godzilla energy is way powerful than thermo godzilla because he took more powerful radiation from plants and bombs that is way more powerful than the nuclear bomb that got him Amp
You already debated MV Goji vs Heisei goji, now you gotta do Thermo Vs Burning (if possible)
As much as I love Thermo, Burning takes the fight pretty easily. Heisei is just that broken, lol.
Now I wonder what Evolved Thermo would be like...
I’m unsubbing fda.
Edit: I just watched GXK and KOTM again and welp, evolved ain’t doing shit to that thing. Also the 20 X thing didn’t mean he has 20 X more energy, it meant he can hold 20 X more energy then before, I hate myself
☠️
He was speaking completely misinformation
@@ChaoticShadow-12yeah.
How?
@@ChaoticShadow-12 cool.
then speak information.
Can you put Kong 2021 vs final wars, Godzilla ?
Can’t say I like the name “Thermo Godzilla” much, but I’m hyped. (Also, IT’S BURNING GODZILLA! not “Thermo”, in order to get people not confused just put “MV Burning”)… IM EDGING
Evo is stronger than thrermo 😂
No it's not
Did you watch the video
Supercharged evolved is stronger then nuclear not evolved which gets slammed but supercharged evolved that would be an extreme div.
@@mikorex4848yes it is
@@Liam-z6d9k no it's not super charged evo is
Bro is saying evo goji atomic breath is weaker than ghidorah gravity beam, even though ghidorah one shot mothra isnt comparable to godzilla drilling a hole through the earth, also, isnt base form goji in the fight with scylla is almost as strong as ampped goji in boston, if so wouldn't supercharged evo goji be almost as strong or stronger than thermo thats the real question
This vs about to be fire
for evolved vs thermo i guess it's depends, if thermo used his pulse he will buff evolved godzilla, evolved godzilla won't explode bc he has insane amount of capacity, if evolved godzilla beamed on thermo he will buff thermo too and might give him more time fighting, however in the end thermo will lose his thermo power and back to normal, so evolved godzilla will beat thermo
Nice video but could you make a vs video of evolved tiamat vs Muto Prime?
Bro i see you everywhere
@@Gojiblck thats because i am everywhere
@@AdamWingard_Officialsavage reply 🗿
@@AdamWingard_Officialsavage reply 🗿
@@King-Ghidorah thanks lel
Maybe about that melting king ghidorah stomp maybe it is because he got pulsed by thermo 2 times wich are very powerful by all means I'm just saying that it maybe made his flesh softer cause it never said he gain strength (even though it is a possibility) and also absolute zero won’t get melted easily so🤷🏻♂my opinion though
Godzilla guy and goji center but on a low budget (Let him cook)!!!!!!!!
3:09 fax
Pokemon has taught me type weaknesses, and Fire beats Ice o3o
We getting 2 epic videos in 1 day. I’m done
W❤ video bro a new sub from me❤🔥💯
Shimo was not under mind control skar king was controlling her using pain it was shown in the movie when skar king used the crystal shimo would recoil in pain.
Could bayverse optimus prime (including the bayverse comics) survive the monsterverse
bro i can't deal with this thing's dawg
Shimu caused the Ice Age around the globe. I personally do not believe that in happened in real life.( The Ice Age, I mean.) (I totally agree with your animation and its analysis. ) I am talking about overall power scalling, not who wins. ) That feat is more powerful than any of Thermo's. The amount energy that is generated on both sides is totally different. Thermonuclear Godzilla did NOT destroy the entirity of East coast and parts of Canada with his pulse, and if he did, maybe we could compare the overall output damage they could cause. Not to mention Godzilla did not have the luxury to use more pulses; he was forced to revert back to his weaker, less powerful state. Whilst Shimu doesn't need any power ups. Just like Ghidorah's hurricanes around the American continent created more energy than Thermonuclear Godzilla or multiple hydrogen bombs combined. I know most people would not wanna hear it, but it's true.
Godzillas form was also temporary, as I stated.
Think of it this way. A talented martial artist (like Bruce Lee or Jackie Chan) fights a man who is a an accomplished powerlifter and has a much bigger bone density than an average human.(Having bones that dense in real life is a rare anomaly. Those people have a hard time being damaged in car accidents.) Let's also be a bit quirky. This strong-boned powerlifter is also Anatoly Kashpirovskiy. ( Anatoly can treat certain people's health issues simply by talking to them, either through a device or real time. I am not making this up. Search videos about him here on TH-cam. The one in Los Angeles and other vids with captions. He is a hypnosist. He caused many people to be helathier before the fall of the USSR. Shimu did the Ice Age thing...)
So the m.artist easily beats this person by performing a bunch of moves, but the persom is overall more powerful; people can feel his presence anywhere in the world by listening to him or in that fight, he loses, yes, but his body is way more powerful. Just like Shimu's frost breath could be felt all over world eventually, not Thermo's pulses.
I see see this world differently.
Hmmmm, what about Evolved thermonuclear godzilla :0
Pls do Evovled godzilla vs mecha godzilla.
Baby Heisei>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
W take 🔥👏
Who wants to be fdas pookie bear
Bro lease do Godzilla evolved supercharged vs shimo full power please
I am tired of these debates let’s end this
Aw hell naw
This guy put Shimu in her place
do king ghidorah vs shimo
Martin James Jackson Richard Johnson Thomas
you something what if godzilla when thermo in his new evelved from
This is really one of the only times i've ever agreed with you. Thank you for actually understanding that MZ solos shimo
Shimo >>>>>>>> ghidorah
If thermo wins I get to have ryan
ye but thermo evo is stronger than normal evo
if we will see thermo evo
Evo Godzilla is way stronger overall. Thermo fanboy. Read the novel, it states evo is way more powerful than thermo. I’m not hating tho everyone has their opinion
ur just just so................. 😑
@@satyanandseereeram6702 just so what?
look thermo, will just charge up his pulse and kill evo
@@ItzPureArt ur just du mb
@@satyanandseereeram6702 it’s not that simple 😐
Godzilla guy said that evolved is stronger then thermo. And u say thermo stronger than evolved. Imma believe you cause you have more proof
Wait Wait Wait normal g man or supercharged g man can kill shimo
And ppl said shimo would win lol-
Godzilla evolved is more powerful than nuclear
Buddy, your little animation is broken.
"Evolved is morw powerful than thermo
But thermo is more poweful than evolved"
A wise mans words
First of all you spelled more wrong so I know you’re a kid and Godzilla guy said evo was stronger than thermo fda said the opposite
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People that appreciate they took the time to make this and not hate on him
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(btw not like begging)
LIKE BEGGER
@@calebkirkland2051 if you could read you would see that it says (btw not like begging
Sir you're under arrest for abusing this mentally handicapped dog.
Legendary Godzilla: Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
(Points to Ghidorah)
Legendary Godzilla: He did it.
The dog be innocent
Shimo one shots thermo
@@chaneladriana6829 Hilarious
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 it is because of how weak thermo is compared to evolve
why are yall surprised pokemon literally taught everyone fire>ice
true.
people r so dumb
Pokémon ain’t canon to the monsterverse
@@BlueDragon-mr6kdwomp womp😢😢😢😢
thermos fire was only able to melt buildings when shimo caused the ice age and froze all of greenland, yeah thermo doesn’t have enough power in heat to do anything.
Bro I thought shimo would win against thermo, but after this comment I can say thermo wins
(Arguments for thermo>=evo, not saying I necessarily agree).
As you said, more radiation=durability and power for goji, and goji can withhold 20x that before. Meaning his thermo state doesn’t have as much radiation as his evo.
Also, Greg said he personally doesn’t know. He is forced to add stuff into novels for narrative and all that, not everything he personally believes. And he says the energy levels were higher, but different. In control. So that’s not really a debunk.
And, it’s said than anything they’re seen. Not anything they’ve ever documented, which would include themro.
I personally do believe thermo>evo, but it isn’t by much. Thermo beats Shimo, high diff
shimo can freeze the world in minutes, thermo can only destroy a city
jr victims
@@Master_Sigma2 freezing≠destroying. And we don’t know how long it took Shimo to cause the ice age, only how long it took to freeze Greenland
@@Master_Sigma2 also yes, heisei jr slams
I mean Thermonuclear Godzilla did beat King Ghidorah who Shimo couldn't kill and could only freeze for Millions of years. That alone says everything.
Because Shimo never fought him my guy.
He was side effect of her ice age.
Godzila and Mothra beat him and before he could escape Godzila pushed him into the water and then he got frozen.
Shimo wasnt anywhere near him.
@@Chillout18-s9h well it's been changed that shimo fought ghidorah, but still needed help from godzilla and his other one ally
@@SpaceWafflerYT huh? no, it was said that shimo froze ghidorah but it was already stated before that godzilla was the one who beat ghidorah. Alone. Shimo froze ghidorah as a consequence from her creating the ice age
fda stay true my friend, it doesn't matter how many subs you lose because unlike the others you don't spread missinformation, this is more important than any number out there !!!
But what he said isn't true, he might not be lying intentionally but misinfo is misinfo.
Here's an idea on why supercharged evolved is stronger. Thermo power is less condensed and unstable which is why he melts everything around him, Evolved Godzilla now has 20x the radiation and because he has more storage he goes well over what made thermo's power unstable.
The reason for the power ups gives a clear idea who's stronger, a nuke given to a near death radiation depleted Godzilla from the oxygen destroyer and mothra's energy made Godzilla go burning, a nuclear power plant, that on average have a lot more radiation than nuke and made him able to use nuclear pulses without going burning then Godzilla, said by Jia's mom, absorbed from the biggest radiation stockpile on earth, including the hollow earth, all nukes, nuclear powerplants, etc,pure movie context points to evolved being stronger.
@@rjsblanket3024watch the video man ☠️
@@rjsblanket3024just so you know all of what you just said is pure fan cannon as it was stated during kotm climax fight Godzilla's power was rising by the minute, and that's for an 8 hour fight (evening to morning), and monarch left about halfway through the fight, and while SOME of the cast stayed they had no equipment to monitor the energy level's of goji, or the mood to do so while running for their lives, and begging of gxk goji was stated to be RELEVANT to Boston goji, not equal, Godzilla and Kong are relevant, and they are definitely not equals, also he never absorbed Scylla's or tiamat's radiation, as he was never stated or shown to be able to do so, and also only relevant thing he has done is sucking up the radiation from the power plant, and he didn't do that to their bodies, only reason he got tiamat's glow is that he evolved in her layer, and I'm using this "he absorbed their radiation" feat cuz goji guy did, and it's just fan cannon, also, evolved goji is stated by the designer to be inspired of kaio ken x20 Goku, and also he worked on this along with Adam and also these design ideas were implemented, basically evolved, in order to stay evolved, consumes radiation, and also burns up his fat reserves for energy, which is why he gets skinnier throughout the film, so he is wasting energy by existing, also the unfathomable amounts of radiation he absorbed, the blue form couldn't hold it in and was constantly emitting it, so he had less to use up for his evolution, also knowing how strong tiamat is based on the novels, and now her being supposedly amped, goji is sure to have wasted a good chunk of his radiation reserves to safely get rid of her, so he had way less to evolve, also since goji guy still used this imma repeat the obvious, evolved has x20 the capacity, not the energy, that's different, now let's get back to kotm, as explained monarch left about halfway through the fight where Godzilla's power was constantly rising, and assuming the fight lasted about 8 hours, and assuming that he gained 1/20 of his energy per minute, which could be an understatement considering people without equipment could tell a significant difference in power when seeing goji fighting throughout the first couple minutes, so, by the time the fight finished in goji should have got an additional 24 times his base capacity, and on top of his actual tops that's 25, and as I said evolved wasted the majority of his radiation, and as if that wasn't enough Thermo wasted all of it, on top of mothra's radiation, in about 30 seconds. Btw the statement about his top power in Boston would be true if he stayed on the supercharged form, as we know monarch left because they thought Godzilla would die of too much power and explode, now that would be the case if mothra didn't sprinkle him with plot armor and thus allow him to enter his thermonuclear state which has a clear gap from his supercharged state as Ghidorah still had the upper hand in combat 1 on 1 situations, and than what happened is thermo tanking his beams and laughing, the beams base goji got knocked over, pushed back and got cut into by, those beams were s joke to him, and now he killed Ghidorah with 2 pulses and a stomp, and that's even more impressive concidering how Ghidorah's regeneration works, as we saw in the Isla de mara sequence Ghidorah when above Rodan's volcano (a radiation source) could regenerate a whole head in seconds, and I believe it's safe to assume thermo was emitting way more radiation than that that Ghidorah could utilize to become invincible out if sheer regeneration, but Godzilla still outpaced that regeneration cuz he's just THAT strong, also if we take statements as cannon (which ik you will to attempt to get your barbenheimer incarnate back on top) he was stated to be at his strongest and with the most energy ever only when hitting supercharged evolved, so base evolved and blue thermo are probably bellow middle of Boston fight goji, who is the previous peak monarch had for Godzilla, and it was implied that his power was rising at a continually faster pace, meaning the above calculations are most likely a complete understatement, and since supercharged was about equal to Shimo, all 3 of him, Shimo and Ghidorah are at the same level of power, since Ghidorah was barely beating late Boston fight goji while Shimo is on par with supercharged evolved goji who is directly superior to middle of Boston goji, and based on all of the above I believe these would be some interesting match ups, but I guess evolved slams and all the proof I just gave is misinformation since it proved all the gxk fanboys wrong 🤷🏻♂️
Incredible video fda
Yes
thanks king
2 absolutely amazing power scalers
@@OMZeditz1 fda is not a powrscaler😊
@@OMZeditz1 lies. Goji chronic is shit at power scaling
Heh shimo will show more power to her strength in future movies
did you ask legendary?
@@Frotheru_The_Dragonnope just watching the movie you can see this, shimo was ALWAYS HOLDING BACK, when she wasn't playing around with Godzilla she send him flying with 1 Leg with no diff, she was being controlled and not using full power she was just doing what scar king wanted to
@@Master_Sigma2 not what i asked,all i need is no from you to end this argument.
by this logic so as godzilla since y’know
he’s the main character (aside from kong)
Ghidorah was screaming in pain from blue atomic breath as stated in the novel.
Shimo was unfazed by any spiral breaths.
And as stated in the novel.
Shimo was only getting angrier as the fight went on.
Oh yeah btw Shimo didn't go all out as it was stated she didn't wish to hurt Kong or Godzilla
ALL OF THIS IS CANNON (unlike this Opinionated video)
Oh heyy i wrote something similar here to
Thermo nuclear Godzilla easily destroy the evolved Godzilla to 😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐
Though I agree, thermo is stupidly powerful, i think you lacked a little bit on shimos durability. She tanked the, by far strongest atomic breath Godzilla ever had in the mv. She also did not even suffer from a scratch from it. And all this happen while she didn’t even want it fight him, skar king locked her onto kong the entire fight. I think shimo could endure at least up to four pulses before she was to fall. More than Ghidorah imo
Destoroyah victims Lmao (don’t hate me-)
Just for this comment i do hate ya
@@ParrotsAccount hmm, let’s see…idgaf-
Evolved > Thermo
It’s even proven in the films, in KOTM, Godzilla absorbed a nuke and Mothra’s ashes
In GxK, Godzilla absorbed the radiation from a nuclear power plant (which can hold more radiation than a nuke) and the radiation from the most radioactive place on earth. And you could argue that he also absorbed the radiation from Scylla and Tiamat after killing them
I heard he absorbed part of Tiamats dna and I’m sure he got some from Scylla too evolved is easily more powerful
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@@Officialfda defiantly a good argument but until we figure out if shimos durability is worse or better than ghidorah I think evolved is stronger especially since gvk Godzillas breath was able to drill to hollow earth and evolved is stronger sure shimo didn’t get hit as much or for as long but she took it like nothing
@@GojiStan64Its better.
Ghidorah was screaming in pain from blue atomic breath as stated in the novel.
Shimo was unfazed by any spiral breaths.
And as stated in the novel.
Shimo was only getting angrier as the fight went on.
Oh yeah btw Shimo didnt go all out as it was stated she didnt wish to hurt Kong or Godzila.
@@Chillout18-s9hthen that just gives me a reason to believe shimo has far better durability which hint hint she does and she’s stronger than ghidorah keep in mind Godzilla has to evolve to stand a chance
shimo froze king-gidorah easily, evo goji can fight shimo somewhat evenly, evo is stronger than burning who is stronger than gidorah
g19 amped should be much weaker then g24 amped...
LET THE ARTISTS COOK
(I’m going with shimo)
I feel like the artists for Fda are just downgraded versions of the artists for Godzillaguy's thumbnails
@@MellowRiverswhy do I see you everywhere
I generally liked that little simulation style video, reminds me of Death Battle where they compile a ton of info then run a really fun simulation.
can't wait for more of those "simulations" as they get better and better