TEAM SPIRIT vs TALON - ABSOLUTELY INSANE MATCH !! - LIMA MAJOR 2023 Dota 2 Highlights

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  • @brianmadera1828
    @brianmadera1828 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    23 INSANE PLAY BREAKDOWN
    1. Casters said 23 queued up refresher
    2. He didn’t buyback early for rosh fight and spent his money on Aeon Disk instead of refresher
    3. Larl taken out
    4. 23 unequips his boots for aeon disk and starts hitting rosh
    5. He gets RP but Aeon allows him to BKB
    6. Gets second RP but aeon disk buff status resistant still up
    7. Chronos most of them and kills everyone except magnus while picking up aegis
    8. Mid chrono drops his bkb on the ground, picks up referesher shard and uses it
    9. 2nd chrono solo target on mag and wins the fight

    • @ahmadbaihaqi1839
      @ahmadbaihaqi1839 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All that in just a few secs and shitton of heroes in the pit.
      Man's built different.

  • @romeomarbella5008
    @romeomarbella5008 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    23’s gameplay has matured. He is more patient than before.

    • @jermainerodgers
      @jermainerodgers ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. Best carry

    • @goomaa88
      @goomaa88 ปีที่แล้ว

      yea agreee

    • @mbangroo
      @mbangroo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They have sunbie coach, he will groom all of them really top tier

    • @sharingiscaring4628
      @sharingiscaring4628 ปีที่แล้ว

      23 hater here. But yes I agree 🙂

    • @trollwarlord4556
      @trollwarlord4556 ปีที่แล้ว

      has matured, so in the past its not matured yet? and the highest mmr on several servers😂 maybe in all servers more or less, hasnt matured in the past, coming from a pub player who has maybe an archon mmr or a crusader who knows😂😂😂

  • @safiraaa7753
    @safiraaa7753 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    man, Mikoto & Q baiting Yatoro who didn't have buyback on the last fight is a piece of art. Mikoto then buyback and remnant into the fight while 23 finally arrived on the fight and ended everything.

    • @brianmadera1828
      @brianmadera1828 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Also last minute rush fight 23 bought aeon instead of refresher and unequiped his boots. If u ask me great decision making.

  • @jaytr1x
    @jaytr1x ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Had goosebumps watching this wonderful series, well played by both teams and thank you for that game

  • @nizm0man
    @nizm0man ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Game 3 Mikoto saved them, let void farm up. Great team work with the snowballs as well.

  • @marcjuliustamoro994
    @marcjuliustamoro994 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Mikoto super good. That damage of fist on chrono last rosh fight wrecked tb

  • @CastlesKingSide
    @CastlesKingSide ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Stomp-stomp-awsome game that could have gone either way. Shoutout to Fear for calling it so well for game 3.
    On a side note, saw a tweet from Blitz that Boxi is out of tournament, on some medical emergency. Analyst Jabbz will-stand in for Liquid for the rest of the tournament. That pretty much makes Gladiators the top favorites to win the event...unless they choke like the last time they had a good run at the major (Stockholm 2022 if memory serves right).

    • @Silentzorc
      @Silentzorc ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought it was jabz from talon, he used to play on Pos 4

    • @CastlesKingSide
      @CastlesKingSide ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Silentzorc no no. different guy, he was a pro player but never really made it big. 4k career earnings in prizemoney.

  • @eeeeyyyees
    @eeeeyyyees ปีที่แล้ว +60

    amazing game. amazing edits. thanks as always DD

  • @riedvelt4378
    @riedvelt4378 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    19:31 collapse lul

    • @carlojoeffreypagaragan7573
      @carlojoeffreypagaragan7573 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In game 3 nonetheless

    • @tripnigrey
      @tripnigrey ปีที่แล้ว

      he's expecting for the toss. Miscommunication

    • @hornet7
      @hornet7 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tripnigrey just global silence or bkb make toss not work

    • @tripnigrey
      @tripnigrey ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hornet7 toss came but not on the location he expected. I'm talking about the rp

  • @fomalhaut123
    @fomalhaut123 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just noticed, that haste rune in 30:15 must have been a huge part of the call to bait and kite TB out of base knowing that void can catch up

  • @renbarrientos4813
    @renbarrientos4813 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    eastern european slayers. wow. congrats. PROUD SEA

  • @yggorfforg-mx7xh
    @yggorfforg-mx7xh ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for always uploading highlights videos for those of us who have to go to work and are unable to watch the game live.

    • @Pp.Ksh9
      @Pp.Ksh9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree. When I was in college I played 4-6 hrs everyday, now I can only watch highlights like these and I'm content.

  • @iqueron8890
    @iqueron8890 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    That double chrono in the rosh pit. Imagine the adrenaline rush to land that perfectly. What a game

    • @yosefinocencio2105
      @yosefinocencio2105 ปีที่แล้ว

      not the double crono, its the double aeon disk

    • @jermainerodgers
      @jermainerodgers ปีที่แล้ว

      Impressive . Bcs he didnt catch his teammates inside of chrono.

    • @johndenzelmangubat299
      @johndenzelmangubat299 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@yosefinocencio2105Am playing it pause and play cant see when the double aeon happens, the 2nd rp lands before rosh died cant see how he has a very high resistance to stun

    • @anhdangviet2668
      @anhdangviet2668 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@johndenzelmangubat299 remember, Aeon Disk lasts about 2-2.5 sec and Magnus almost instantly use second RP so the RP wear off really fast. Not Magnus fault though, it's Void who buys Aeon Disk so he can survive Magnus combo

    • @iqueron8890
      @iqueron8890 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yosefinocencio2105 there are no double aeon. I already check it

  • @weslymaneaki1052
    @weslymaneaki1052 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    MIKOTO now is one of the best midlaner I think

    • @abdansyakur3999
      @abdansyakur3999 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's Good but not best, still A lot great Midlanner out there such as Abed, Nisha, and other

    • @weslymaneaki1052
      @weslymaneaki1052 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@abdansyakur3999 i said one of the best, not the beat tho

    • @viavlalala4764
      @viavlalala4764 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​​@@abdansyakur3999 I don't know if you're watching SEA scene or not, but Mikoto is the only SEA midlane that won against Abed back then when Abed stuck in SEA due to covid and doing part-time in SEA tourney

    • @mbangroo
      @mbangroo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He has been in great form

  • @uchihamadara9967
    @uchihamadara9967 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Englighten me, why did yotaro chose Vyse instead of Aeon Disk in game 3 against void late game?

  • @prothoraxe
    @prothoraxe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Collapse was 1 millisecond too early on the 2nd RP, faceless void was still under the status resistance of the aeon disk so the 2nd RP didn't last the full duration. If that didn't happen, Spirit would've won for sure.

  • @prhl
    @prhl ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What was that game 3 man, best one so far! That must've been a tilting game 3 for yatoro, understandable that the man's just went straight home.

  • @sendxnoodles
    @sendxnoodles ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Talon, last hope for Sea.

    • @naldoro9715
      @naldoro9715 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope 99.99% players from SEA can learn from them

  • @macbuang07
    @macbuang07 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great game. Observation and opinion: Talon really need 23’s comfort heroes to win.

  • @animeniactv748
    @animeniactv748 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    23 is a consistent carry. So strong

  • @DarkRedZane
    @DarkRedZane ปีที่แล้ว +1

    29:14 Can someone explain how the 2nd reverse polarity duration was so short on faceless void?

    • @DarkRedZane
      @DarkRedZane ปีที่แล้ว

      @kuyboss3661 I think that too, but when I played it on slow-motion, Aeon-disk status already wore off.

    • @DarkRedZane
      @DarkRedZane ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @kuyboss3661 my suspicion is that Magnus was like, 0.01 seconds too early for his 2nd RP.

  • @anonymousunknown8226
    @anonymousunknown8226 ปีที่แล้ว

    that magnus RP on last Roshan war is the game changer, that void's Aeon Disk save the game. If Magnus wait for 0.1 to use the second RP, it would be Team Spirit win

  • @dabdabdabi5
    @dabdabdabi5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best game of Lima Major so far. Effing legendary. First to make a mistake losses.

  • @elemenopi4827
    @elemenopi4827 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    this is what we get when teams don't pick troll, sven, or lifestealer. some actual great games.

  • @kadalmesir545
    @kadalmesir545 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks DD, great game.

  • @eucliwood0138
    @eucliwood0138 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mikotos' back is aching. I can feel it.

  • @lelegoyeng
    @lelegoyeng ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wooah no one say anything about jabz on game 2 and 3, thats really save talon a lot of time

    • @RealRangerix
      @RealRangerix ปีที่แล้ว

      agree jabz and Q really do a great job

  • @gnolihz
    @gnolihz ปีที่แล้ว

    22:28 mikoshow that really save Talon from losing

  • @reiikyuu
    @reiikyuu ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive had my doubts of Talon being the best team in SEA and this series proved me wrong. Although Jabz had some bad positionings in G3, 23 and Miktoo stepped up real hard. Props to TS though, they performed very well despite having a pos 2 thats a bit of a downgrade to Torontotokyo

  • @imfinishedgrinding638
    @imfinishedgrinding638 ปีที่แล้ว

    24:35 I'm no Collapse hater, I actually like the guy but this here should have been possible during TI10, not being fully disabled while horn tossed. 23savage got the BKB off mid-horn toss.

  • @renellcristobal3524
    @renellcristobal3524 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    that mikoto buyback bait at the last fight.

  • @gregorioiiialas8407
    @gregorioiiialas8407 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jabz transition to offlane is a good decision. Who knew he'll dominate so much.

  • @burisngag7529
    @burisngag7529 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This talon is way better than the talon team with kuku and topson 😂

    • @Kidstogoplaytime
      @Kidstogoplaytime ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They were t1 not talon..😂🤣

    • @burisngag7529
      @burisngag7529 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kidstogoplaytime oh yeah got confused 😂😂😂😂

  • @gandammuu4063
    @gandammuu4063 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    lina so broken, need patch ASAP, how come a single int based hero with low str growth can outstand slark, dk, and NP hitting her, literally 1v3 and winning

    • @John__-ie3od
      @John__-ie3od ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You realize NP is also an int hero...

    • @gravity00x
      @gravity00x ปีที่แล้ว

      marci is an str carry and she will evaporate any int hero withi. 1.5 seconds.
      ogre is an in hero and peobably the tankiest little shit in gaming history, so please go somewhere else with ur pazzzzetiiiiiikkk "unfair" rant

    • @carlojoeffreypagaragan7573
      @carlojoeffreypagaragan7573 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@John__-ie3od but not on the receiving end

  • @rizkyarifin7828
    @rizkyarifin7828 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wheres the eg vs sr?

    • @DotADigestDD
      @DotADigestDD  ปีที่แล้ว

      Video reuploaded because of a TH-cam bug
      th-cam.com/video/CAE67o1nyv0/w-d-xo.html

  • @vincemarcvillafuerte6639
    @vincemarcvillafuerte6639 ปีที่แล้ว

    30:14 yatoro know he is f*** cause faceless void is coming.

  • @denverspence5576
    @denverspence5576 ปีที่แล้ว

    23 with excellent supports ..MAGNIFICENT

  • @straightthinkings
    @straightthinkings ปีที่แล้ว

    Any tip on games guys?

  • @diparedi2380
    @diparedi2380 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how the casters say yatoro instead of his actual ign, yatoroDOG.

  • @CelestialSofa
    @CelestialSofa ปีที่แล้ว

    set speed to .25 and listen to comms at 6:20

  • @ERene-lw4vl
    @ERene-lw4vl ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thai team amazing game. and thaiplayer

    • @kamuharustau0999
      @kamuharustau0999 ปีที่แล้ว

      it mixed with malay and indo

    • @sakda357
      @sakda357 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a international team. A Pure Thai team has no a good mid player and Thai team organizer could not solve that problem.

  • @livingstonlevi3848
    @livingstonlevi3848 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    mikoto MVP for game 2 and 3

    • @dabdabdabi5
      @dabdabdabi5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree bro. In game 3, 23Savage was the one doing the damage, but Mikoto was the one baiting Spirit to make mistakes and also gave space for 23's farm.

  • @Appstoneoffice
    @Appstoneoffice ปีที่แล้ว

    Faceless void in late game is nightmare

  • @andine127
    @andine127 ปีที่แล้ว

    Solid game 3 what a series

  • @voughn5
    @voughn5 ปีที่แล้ว

    23's scary. He's only gonna get better here on out.

  • @theerathum
    @theerathum ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Game 3 it a WTF this it so epic game

  • @christianjonesalcala790
    @christianjonesalcala790 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yatoro's weakness = SEA

  • @vermouthsavage4750
    @vermouthsavage4750 ปีที่แล้ว

    23!!! CAN YA DO SOMETHING FOR ME!? CAN CARRY TALON AGAIN NOW FOR ME!?!

  • @rizkydwi9439
    @rizkydwi9439 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🇮🇩 🤝 🇹🇭 . no pinoys, theres party

  • @xkvndgr8___302
    @xkvndgr8___302 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did the RP at 29:20 didn't last very long on Void?

    • @nevermore013
      @nevermore013 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aeon disk

    • @zachpogipogi2040
      @zachpogipogi2040 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Aeon is still ongoing on his 2nd RP

    • @ridji3
      @ridji3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@zachpogipogi2040 he refreshed the aeon with refresher

    • @xkvndgr8___302
      @xkvndgr8___302 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zachpogipogi2040 yah just a tiny bit of duration saved him.

    • @xkvndgr8___302
      @xkvndgr8___302 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ridji3 that's afterwards.

  • @pulless
    @pulless ปีที่แล้ว

    what a game in game 3

  • @kurochibis8379
    @kurochibis8379 ปีที่แล้ว

    23 literally carries any team.

  • @shahidinsalleh6817
    @shahidinsalleh6817 ปีที่แล้ว

    Collapse collapsed in fountain 🤭

  • @checklist9758
    @checklist9758 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mikotogod

  • @muthusamydon8616
    @muthusamydon8616 ปีที่แล้ว

    23 savage!!!!! talon played wonderfully!

  • @jermainerodgers
    @jermainerodgers ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mikoto 2nd best mid next to nisha

    • @JZ094
      @JZ094 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did u not watch abed stomped nisha mid bit sadly liquid is better team

    • @afrizal8275
      @afrizal8275 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@JZ094 mikoto destroyed nisha too, and liquid still win. nisha lose his lane a lot. but still can comeback and give impact to win the game. that is what make him the best, also his achievement too.

    • @JZ094
      @JZ094 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@afrizal8275 best mid is for who wins mid not really games
      Winning lanes don't count as best mid nowadays??

    • @afrizal8275
      @afrizal8275 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JZ094 call that best laning phase. not best mid 🤦.

  • @Jaykmrch
    @Jaykmrch ปีที่แล้ว

    No point buying back on tb after metamorphosis, just waste of gold

  • @swakaddy4190
    @swakaddy4190 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a game ! Ggwp talon

  • @justmoch8985
    @justmoch8985 ปีที่แล้ว

    mikoto and jabz, always carrying the team. ehm, i mean the carry.

  • @jarmago7750
    @jarmago7750 ปีที่แล้ว

    24:48 Yatoro bought back and went 1v5. Something's fishy.

  • @eiwolfgi1207
    @eiwolfgi1207 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow amazing game, go Talon

  • @prabinchhetri9681
    @prabinchhetri9681 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nasty first game… weird picks.. sf - knew they lost moment he didn’t take farm lead like 90% of sf games lol

  • @hoanglinh8271
    @hoanglinh8271 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    True fluke TI. I will keep my opinion, why do you know? Because after winning TI, the dog collapse broke up with his lover, who was by his side when he was nothing in the dota2 world. Worse, he didn't even acknowledge that the child in Marie's womb was his own.

  • @jeffreydomingo9478
    @jeffreydomingo9478 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If only yatoro bought bkb. Or his own early aeon.

    • @ask4frnd
      @ask4frnd ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah, he always depends on teammates. 4 protect 1 doesn't work anymore.

    • @kazutomonishimura9180
      @kazutomonishimura9180 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not the BKB, because the BKB is useless if he is caught with the chrono. If only some of his teammates had bought Ethereal Blade to save Yatoro from the chrono, it would have made a huge difference, but Mirana built it late. And from Yatoro's side, he should have built Aeon and a refresher instead of a hex in his bagpack. For the picks, they should have countered it with Vengeful Spirit to save Yatoro.

    • @dextercastillo5046
      @dextercastillo5046 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kazutomonishimura9180 he bought aeon but sold immediately when he knew np has nullifier.

    • @jeffreydomingo9478
      @jeffreydomingo9478 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kazutomonishimura9180 i understand he will get chronoed either way. Just to avoid some of the other damages coming from the outside. Void isnt killing him on one chrono by himself. He has enough hp and armor to survive especially earlier on the game. Problem is even of he survives, there will always be follow ups. And he cant do anything cos he doesnt have bkb.

    • @jeffreydomingo9478
      @jeffreydomingo9478 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dextercastillo5046 yeah, a little bit too late.

  • @ark4ku425
    @ark4ku425 ปีที่แล้ว

    double chrono in ros pit

  • @jagerobangkero
    @jagerobangkero ปีที่แล้ว +4

    YatoroDog

    • @marcjuliustamoro994
      @marcjuliustamoro994 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He didnt handshake at all when the game ends. He just left what an arrogant dog

  • @felipebethle3527
    @felipebethle3527 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    man so happy to watch TS fall, nice job talon!!

  • @MrSmith-ny7sp
    @MrSmith-ny7sp ปีที่แล้ว

    Fatorodog! SEA never forgets.

  • @rommelnogueras6694
    @rommelnogueras6694 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy shit. Hahahaha. Watta game!!

  • @CarlosIsaacRSison
    @CarlosIsaacRSison ปีที่แล้ว

    Tspirit losing again to sea team, they really need to study sea dota

  • @Fogship
    @Fogship ปีที่แล้ว

    This is ts when collapse make few mistakes

  • @RR-xw1uy
    @RR-xw1uy ปีที่แล้ว

    magnus collapse best hero?? still lose.. this is fun

  • @remorse7405
    @remorse7405 ปีที่แล้ว

    gabbi must be proud

  • @chuauzikpuia4658
    @chuauzikpuia4658 ปีที่แล้ว

    The crowd sounds amazing. Must feel like a football stadium.

  • @norestwicked6125
    @norestwicked6125 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy Shiiitt

  • @thenormalman2030
    @thenormalman2030 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    bruh hahhahahhaha game 3 is so yikes

  • @WtKKeepCurious
    @WtKKeepCurious ปีที่แล้ว

    Good game 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

  • @첸새로운날
    @첸새로운날 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is ez game?

  • @FestIval77129
    @FestIval77129 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dd > noobfromua

  • @johnnewsted5139
    @johnnewsted5139 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a game! Lez Go! Talon! Sea pride, just play like that, who ever know maybe they could go through grand finals, just my opinion..😊

  • @yiminggao3066
    @yiminggao3066 ปีที่แล้ว

    first time see the disk void

    • @molen3194
      @molen3194 ปีที่แล้ว

      Make sense, for breaking chains combo Larl + Collapse + Mira

    • @yiminggao3066
      @yiminggao3066 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@molen3194 yeah

    • @yiminggao3066
      @yiminggao3066 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@molen3194 really works lol

    • @jaytr1x
      @jaytr1x ปีที่แล้ว +8

      A very smart play, he knows that he can be chained stunned but as long as he gets the chrono they will secure that fight. He won't be 13k mmr for no reason. What a play

  • @Bigboy3005
    @Bigboy3005 ปีที่แล้ว

    🎉 Sea proud

  • @mchuy5225
    @mchuy5225 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    EZ GAME YATOROGOSHHH 322 player

  • @akhil8280
    @akhil8280 ปีที่แล้ว

    yatorodog as always

  • @aymenbouaiss7218
    @aymenbouaiss7218 ปีที่แล้ว

    LARL what a grief 3rd game, just get the goddamn aghs man

  • @karlbryankishol999
    @karlbryankishol999 ปีที่แล้ว

    yatoro didnt even shake hands lol salty

  • @skullinzudhi8669
    @skullinzudhi8669 ปีที่แล้ว

    😱😱

  • @emptyblank9943
    @emptyblank9943 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great series, also thank for speedy upload DD.

  • @menmenknows
    @menmenknows ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BYE YATORO THE MEDIOCRE 🤣🤣🤣 ./.

  • @chraos
    @chraos ปีที่แล้ว

    gameplay is sick but seriously that dude with the horn needs to shut up

  • @RianMellow
    @RianMellow ปีที่แล้ว

    TI Champs By A Fluke 🤣🤣🤣

    • @sakda357
      @sakda357 ปีที่แล้ว

      They has TorontoTokyodrift at that time.

  • @MrJafar
    @MrJafar ปีที่แล้ว

    Yataro Fart

  • @florenceguinguyon7436
    @florenceguinguyon7436 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yotoro who? Hm....

  • @Robilskakmatg
    @Robilskakmatg ปีที่แล้ว

    Mikoto indog😂😂😂😂

  • @jg5966
    @jg5966 ปีที่แล้ว

    good doto

  • @babyapple_
    @babyapple_ ปีที่แล้ว

    The last game, the TB multiple buybacks are so useless. smh

    • @havizarga8457
      @havizarga8457 ปีที่แล้ว

      TB isn't good hero to do BB. without metamorphosis he's useless

  • @DrYellowFlash
    @DrYellowFlash ปีที่แล้ว

    Spirit cant get through SEA again hahaha ez game

  • @lemyool
    @lemyool ปีที่แล้ว

    Buti nga nanyo

  • @davendaven84
    @davendaven84 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flukers 😂😂😂

  • @RVJess01
    @RVJess01 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always cocky team spirit! Karma is real! Thats why nobody like team spirit. Hahaha