Kila nyanyi kwa raha zake….. she will die a happy person having lived her life. Just like us others who do not subscribe to her way of living…. Kila mtu aishi maisha yake vile anataka, maisha ni yako.
Thank you for having me Jagero. These are conversations that need to be heard. Queer people exist in all diversities and I'm happy I could shed some light for more understanding.
@@jennieshepha fear is a spirit. Assuming that you do read the Bible and you believe in the words written in it, you have not been given the spirit of fear but that of love and a sound mind.
Being part of the community means accepting some accept it & others will think the devil has a chokehold on you. What matters most is what the individual and how it sits with them. Good conversation.
Great conversation.Michelle, your solidity in knowing thyself is all you need. Nobody should define you but you. I hope all goes well with your proposed wedding, but even that is just a paper, and people use partnerships.
In a society where people are quick to be judgemental I’m glad she has the guts to come out and live her truth. She’s not hurting anyone with her choices and I bet she’s happier than most people. This is just similar to conversations about children. When someone says they do not want to have kids and how it’s been frowned upon within the African society which is rubbish! You can’t please everyone, be authentically you !
FIRST!!!, let’s start with the fact that Kenya is a secular country Not everyone subscribes to Christianity or Islam, and even within those religions, interpretations of sexuality vary. Homosexuality is not a 'sin' or 'demonic'; it’s a natural variation of human existence. Forcing your beliefs on others is not only disrespectful but also perpetuates stigma and violence. Conversion therapy is scientifically discredited and banned in many countries because it’s abusive, harmful, and ineffective. Being gay is not a disease to be 'fixed.' Your entitlement to dictate other people's identities and lives under the guise of religion is dangerous and oppressive. Instead of clinging to harmful narratives, si we just consider focusing on love, empathy, and understanding Let others live their truth without your unsolicited interference.
First things first: Nobody forces anyone to do anything, and even when you don't believe in God, the existence of nature as we know and observe it actually negates the whole homosexuality ideology because if it really was a 'normal' thing, nature as we know it wouldn't exit. Secondly, religion is not oppressive but serves as a mirror to a society that abides by it. With time culture evolves and the evolution may not necessarily be a positive or sensible progress just like in the USA abortion which is essentially murder, is legal in most states but when you murder a pregnant woman you're charged for murder of the mother as well as the unborn child, how does that make sense? But with religion, the mirror reflects the rot in society regardless of evolution and calls for change. Thirdly, we can't just limitlessly let everyone 'live in their truth' because no one exists in a vaccum. Also by definition there can only be one truth, you can not personalize truth! And the truth in this matter is there is a God who created literally everything in existence as male and female and that was very much intentional, it cannot be a coincidence. And so as we seek to love, empathize and understand the LGBTQIA++ community let us not forget that what they are doing is NOT normal.
@@PRINTERPAGE The focus on them is so amplified that you fail to see the real danger right in front of you. They account for only 3% of the global population. Pope Francis said that 2% of clergy are pedophiles. The Archdiocese of Los Angeles has paid 1,353 victims of abuse $880M in the largest payout ever made. They had paid out $740M to other victims previously. They have spent more than $1.5B to compensate victims. That’s in Los Angeles alone! Can you imagine the damage on a global level? Do you know they would send priests suspected of child abuse to African countries to shield them from prosecution. Can you imagine the horrors the priests inflicted here? Pope Francis went to Chile and met with victims who were abused by priests. He asked for forgiveness for the irreparable damage done to them. He listened to their stories, prayed & wept with them. He acknowledged that the cover up was wrong. Many victims drop out of school, suffer from various addictions, PTSD, depression, anxiety, fear of intimacy, lack of trust, they carry guilt and shame when they were the ones violated by adults in positions of power, people they trusted. The world has more pedophiles than LGBTQ folk including Trump who is a pedophile. Who do you think poses a greater risk to your child? Your child is more likely to be assaulted by a Priest, nanny, teacher, neighbor, relative before they even know anything to do with LGBTQ. Where’s the anger about that? 1 in 5 Kenyan teens will drop out of school because a pedophile got them pregnant. Are your leaders talking about that? A study done in Australia indicated that 1 in 6 adult men found children to be sexually attractive. 1 in 10 admitted to committing the act. They also found that those who admitted desire and had acted upon it were people who • work with children * be married * have higher levels of social support * earn higher incomes * * be a victim of child sexual abuse Instead of focusing on LGBTQ that children don’t even have the bandwidth to understand teach them about morals and values that will keep them safe out in the world. Teach them about consent. 89% of pedophiles stop once they realize the child has an awareness of what is happening & is likely to tell. The child saying ‘No’ is a huge deterrent. You are more likely to encounter a pedophile than a gay person. Don’t buy into the sensationalism of perceived danger from a small group and miss the very real danger lurking.
@@PRINTERPAGEI wonder why you wouldn't think that being born homosexual is not part of the diversity of nature and creation as those who are heterosexual/straight. Just like we have Asians and blacks, we have homosexuals too.
I find the whole thing of “coming out “ crazy! You don’t have to come out to declare what or who you’re into…the fact that you feel the need to “come out “ then you know something is off already with your situation
I should say congratulations to the guest and warm reception from dwj. However I should say that dialogue was limiting and the questions weren't prompt. The discussion to begin with bible before knowing the religious belief was so low especially from jagero. I hope next podcast will score highly
Madness is an interesting choice of word considering what level of mindlessness it has to take for a person to be so unable to hold other people's truths so much that they think of it as "madness".
Thank u God bless u. Forgive me but this is a way to lure innocent gals to join this satanic behaviors. Give us any quote in the bible where the disciples were queers nonsense@@mrswaweru789
Watu wako na hasira sana huku nje.....my friend, if you are doing good, continue doing good and if you are doing bad, continue doing bad... So kila mtu akae pale anafaa and let's all wait for judgement from our Maker. Let's leave His job to Him (God).. i come in peace.
To begin with, I come in peace... We judge a lot the lgbtq group yet we glorify and normalize sex before marriage, sex b4 marriage in whatever gender you do with is a sin. We lean on one side because we want to feel more holier than others which is so not cool..
She's sooo happy and I'm sure Jesus is working to keep her that way with her wife. When others have a good life aren't bothering anyone, idk why we try to put them down. I'm sure she's had her own internal battles about this with Jesus and she found nothing but love and peace from him (Jesus)
the only confusion is the misquotation of the law as the provisions they are stating are from the penal code and not the 2010 COK but the detailing and interpretation is on point
@@mrswaweru789 it’s not just an African thing. Even in liberal countries like America, people dread this. You can see the Trump administration fighting hard to being back some normalcy and protection of the family unit.
@@mrswaweru789Is stealing and corruption African culture? It amazes me how Kenyans are happy to accept and even accept the extreme injustice, corruption, dishonest and stealing in the community and yet demonize people's sexualities just coz someone somewhere decided to condemn it
@@LoveHumansAsGodLovesYou God has given people like President Donald Trump and President Museveni a leadership opportunity a platform to let the world know that such are abnormal and must be kept off the open platform. these are evil and evil and there are no other words for making an evil and sinful activity other than just confirming that its evil. Romans 1:26-27
Without being judgmental, I wish someone could educate her that her existence is as a result of a relationship between a man and a woman. I know local artists will not resonate with this statement.
They are not important points in any way. She has said very clearly, she was never attracted to boys from a very early age - this we can assume was before she lost her father. What will you say when you meet the others who do not fall in any of the demographics that you have described?
I can't judge her but pray for her that one day she will change. I have a girlfriend who's queer and every time i tell her to try date a man she gets mad at me so bad so i let her be but still friends
She left being an atheist so leaving lesbianism possible. She said that she would want a child of her own but still a lesbian and look for a role model somewhere, that tells me she knows whatever she's doing isn't right. Let her make up her mind and have a family the right way.
Y'all out here hating and pretending hamjalearn anything common.. common sense oughts to be very common but clearly again it's not... Mitchell I wish you all the best Gal❤❤❤ y'all are out here sinning 😅😅with y'all order of nature
This belief of a every child needs a father or man really frastrates me coz there's a million of men in homes who are just there and they are as good as the kids and it turns to be a woman doing most of providing, paying bills and disciplining of kids so its so sad that society believe that they are that important in homes.Actually there are a lot of married single women in society.am a straight woman i don't blieve in LGBTQ .
Men were created to do more than what people know they do. A father is a father whether earning or not, whether normal or abnormal- only his children, God and His community understands his value and will know the relevance of his absence. A Man husband has a divine purpose in the life of an obedient wife, The wife so much know His worth and thats why some women will prefer joining another marriage to be counted part of it even if the man has no job. God knows why He placed order in the human family set up. Thanks to God for bringing back president Donald trump to preach the worth of a family to the human race in todays' world. Shalom
@@ibrahimokuro1020 you're misplacing the word of God and the purpose of a father in the home.its actually a sin for a man to bring the children in this planet and fail to purposely provide and the same Bible again says the good wise father lives inheritance for his kids this includes a positive legacy generally but fathers of now are nowhere near to Gods guidance.
Children most definitely need a father - the kind that is actually intentional in his role as an involved dad. But having one cannot prevent anything from happening, it is not a magic ward that protects children from making whatever choices they will make - I do not think there are kids who want to become gay but decide against it because they have a father. I think that people try to rationalize things they do not understand by blaming extra ordinary situations, single mums being the most common.
@@ibrahimokuro1020 The "divine purpose" of a father is to provide for his offspring and family. Some men have failed in their role as fathers, husbands. The only reason some women hang on to men or relationships that do not even make sense to man or beast is because in our society, we demonize, castigate and stigmatize single women and single mothers, in some communities it is such a taboo it becomes impossible to survive even financially without attaching themselves to a man.
@@wambuikingatua3820 I agree with what you say but the fact remains that joblessness and lack of a source of income is a mental problems that troubles all men. As a man I feel it and it pains me most. But lacking a source of income should not be a reason to make somebody lose his position that God ordained of him as the head of a family and a father of his children. I know of so many instances that one feeds his family but the moment he looses his job, a divorce is filed against him.
The interviewer please,do some homework before you meet the client.For example if she is a lesbian,study the subject. You asking a sensitive question,it is not time to lift a mug and get the smile of your face.
Romans 1:28-32 ..Furthermore just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God,so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought to be done.They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, greed and depravity.....etc. This is what happens when you decide to lean on your own understanding....Deception from the devil is real....these are the last days.....and revelation says if one has an ear let them hear......i know someone is going to say i am judging....but God's word is clear.....its light...its life it set's you free........ These are the last days.....its either you are with Christ on not...The book of .Joshua says....CHOOSE YE THIS DAY WHOM YOU WILL SERVE.....these are the end times...... You can come after me but k ow that ....everything shall pass...but only God's word will remain....
Did you choose to be attracted to men or just found yourself being attracted to them? Why do you think it’s a choice? Please tell me how much time Jesus spent talking about homosexuality. I’ll wait.
@@avamrima5301God has not hidden from us His will... He has said what He wants and what He doesn't want...He is holy and doesn't not call what is wrong right .. We should see things as He sees them...
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Your statement is a gross generalisation. I'm queer and I implore you to as any question at all under the sun and I will answer what I can in truth and good faith within the context and limits of my own anecdotal experience and what I have learnt.
Hapa nayo it's not true. She's seated and speaking. It doesn't mean cross certain boundaries in the name of being taught. Kama uko na swali, uliza hapa comment section.
Jagero, I’m your fan from Namibia, I love your shows and follow you, I’m a bit disappointed at this discussion what’s this lady talking about. To me she is confused and she is confusing especially young people who are at tender ages like teenagers who are going through identity crisis. Why does she want male sperm to have a child, why can’t she have sex with her woman partner and have their children? She is promoting all these nonsense, why can’t lesbians have children with themselves rather than using male sperms yet they do not promote normal life and relationships. Like what type of madness is this? I have a plea my brother Jagaro, for you to please focus your having shows on things that build and contributes positively to African people and societies. These nonsense are foreign and European agendas being promoted in our African societies.
Calm down Becky. This DWJ meaning dialogues. Not everybody agrees with you but you see they have allowed you to say whatever you wanna say. Who gives you the right to say the things you wanna say has given her the right to say what she wanna say.
She wants to chased like a woman, to persue is too much for her she says,she wants a male role model for her children,she wants male sperms, what then is she talking about ?all that she is saying is that she is doing the wrong thing
Wah, the further you go from God the more confused you become because essentially you don't create or belong to yourself, for yourself... it's just that simple
Hallo Jagero, Thanks for how you conduct the interviews, making clear what something is. What is evil and sinful is evil and sinful, even if we develop English Phrases to make them look good. I once worked in an organization that was dealing with such. I think the information came as a shock and the evangelist in me had the opportunity to speak up and rebuke the sin. I was asked to recunt my words which I refused to do so, I was warned of dare consequences that included my sacking. I was jobless but happy to be on God's side of seeing things. Deut 29: 29 says that the secret things belongs to God and those things that have been revealed belongs to us and to our children even our childrens children. Truly, if such kind of people are prayed for, just like the blind with eyes restored, they get restored well. Romans 1:26-27 By God permitting things, that does not make them good for the human race.
Just a question,if you are going to have a family with two mothers wont you then confuse the kids?again this means you will "use"an innocent man to sire kids with.
No I don't think there is confusion anywhere. Many Kenyans like her with a wife have kids some even more than 4 children and they are doing well. Some of their children even have families of their own.
Hii syllabus inaenda mbio sana. So...do you guys get character developed like the rest of us on this side of life? The heterosexual side is what I mean.
It's an interesting question. I mean from my experience it's mostly been that if either side of the family is accepting of their union, the two families agree how things go.
Has God not set an example of a family? Has He not told us what He loves and what He hates.. God will not change His laws to fit our immoral behaviours...@@josephinesuji5900
How can one be spiritual and you read the Bible and the bible is the compass to our live I pray that my daughter will not come across this video....nkt
Don't be the parent that when your child turns out to be a lesbian woman you are the first to push them to take their own life Believe me, I know she's fought with God about this more than any of us tupende tusipende like the battles we each have with God. Getting to a place where she openly speaks about her journey is not easy
I've never encountered anyone who was attracted to girls exclusively from a very young age. Most people develop feelings in their teens or later. So in this case, there's more to it than society thinks. I always thought it was a choice, but it must be biological.
What do you mean african countries like Kenya need evidence 😂😂? It's kenya in Africa. No evidence is needed as long as it's police or prosecutor have money, then you go to court and to Jail 🤷♀️🤷♀️
People need a lot of education starting with the host, there is a lot to learn on this and just 1 or 2 LQBTQ+ guest isn't enough. Michele is kind, is in touch with her real self and very non-judgmental sababu some of the questions..eh! I wish the very best to you Michelle and your partner, soon to be wife❤ Explore outside of Kenya.
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Her calmness and easy-going approach to this topic and questions I commend her. I have no idea why I was triggered by some of the questions wheeewww!!
Kila nyanyi kwa raha zake….. she will die a happy person having lived her life. Just like us others who do not subscribe to her way of living…. Kila mtu aishi maisha yake vile anataka, maisha ni yako.
Michelle is beautiful, intelligent, warm and open. I am glad to see her here sharing her truth.
Thank you for having me Jagero. These are conversations that need to be heard. Queer people exist in all diversities and I'm happy I could shed some light for more understanding.
How old are you baby girl, kindly do you know Michelle Ntalami?
Am soo of proud of you ❤
Please Michelle talk to me please
You are a beautiful lady. I am seeing lots of void I your life, and you are subconsciously trying to fix these using lesbianism.
Ooohkay mbaitsa ove vurahi kweri?
Wow, it’s always good to hear from people who are affected by the legal system. All the best to her and others
The fact that I am even watching this scares me a lot. I fear for my girls 😢😢😢 the world is really ending 💔
@@jennieshepha fear is a spirit. Assuming that you do read the Bible and you believe in the words written in it, you have not been given the spirit of fear but that of love and a sound mind.
The world will never end. It's you who will end at some point.
@@george1528😂😂 I didn't know that 😅 kwani Jesus won't come back 😢
We just have to keep praying for our kids. I worry about a lot of things but lesbianism isn't one of them.
When the madness of an entire nation disturbs a solitary mind,it isn't enough to say the person is mad!
Can this madness just stop..nkktt!!!
Being part of the community means accepting some accept it & others will think the devil has a chokehold on you. What matters most is what the individual and how it sits with them. Good conversation.
Great conversation.Michelle, your solidity in knowing thyself is all you need. Nobody should define you but you. I hope all goes well with your proposed wedding, but even that is just a paper, and people use partnerships.
In a society where people are quick to be judgemental I’m glad she has the guts to come out and live her truth. She’s not hurting anyone with her choices and I bet she’s happier than most people. This is just similar to conversations about children. When someone says they do not want to have kids and how it’s been frowned upon within the African society which is rubbish! You can’t please everyone, be authentically you !
I enjoyed this conversation. So proud of you Michelle 😊
FIRST!!!, let’s start with the fact that Kenya is a secular country
Not everyone subscribes to Christianity or Islam, and even within those religions, interpretations of sexuality vary. Homosexuality is not a 'sin' or 'demonic'; it’s a natural variation of human existence. Forcing your beliefs on others is not only disrespectful but also perpetuates stigma and violence. Conversion therapy is scientifically discredited and banned in many countries because it’s abusive, harmful, and ineffective. Being gay is not a disease to be 'fixed.' Your entitlement to dictate other people's identities and lives under the guise of religion is dangerous and oppressive. Instead of clinging to harmful narratives, si we just consider focusing on love, empathy, and understanding
Let others live their truth without your unsolicited interference.
First things first: Nobody forces anyone to do anything, and even when you don't believe in God, the existence of nature as we know and observe it actually negates the whole homosexuality ideology because if it really was a 'normal' thing, nature as we know it wouldn't exit. Secondly, religion is not oppressive but serves as a mirror to a society that abides by it. With time culture evolves and the evolution may not necessarily be a positive or sensible progress just like in the USA abortion which is essentially murder, is legal in most states but when you murder a pregnant woman you're charged for murder of the mother as well as the unborn child, how does that make sense? But with religion, the mirror reflects the rot in society regardless of evolution and calls for change. Thirdly, we can't just limitlessly let everyone 'live in their truth' because no one exists in a vaccum. Also by definition there can only be one truth, you can not personalize truth! And the truth in this matter is there is a God who created literally everything in existence as male and female and that was very much intentional, it cannot be a coincidence. And so as we seek to love, empathize and understand the LGBTQIA++ community let us not forget that what they are doing is NOT normal.
Sir
Get some basic education please
For your own sake@@PRINTERPAGE
@@PRINTERPAGESome basic education would go a long way..No?
@@PRINTERPAGE The focus on them is so amplified that you fail to see the real danger right in front of you.
They account for only 3% of the global population. Pope Francis said that 2% of clergy are pedophiles. The Archdiocese of Los Angeles has paid 1,353 victims of abuse $880M in the largest payout ever made. They had paid out $740M to other victims previously. They have spent more than $1.5B to compensate victims. That’s in Los Angeles alone! Can you imagine the damage on a global level?
Do you know they would send priests suspected of child abuse to African countries to shield them from prosecution. Can you imagine the horrors the priests inflicted here? Pope Francis went to Chile and met with victims who were abused by priests. He asked for forgiveness for the irreparable damage done to them. He listened to their stories, prayed & wept with them. He acknowledged that the cover up was wrong. Many victims drop out of school, suffer from various addictions, PTSD, depression, anxiety, fear of intimacy, lack of trust, they carry guilt and shame when they were the ones violated by adults in positions of power, people they trusted. The world has more pedophiles than LGBTQ folk including Trump who is a pedophile. Who do you think poses a greater risk to your child? Your child is more likely to be assaulted by a Priest, nanny, teacher, neighbor, relative before they even know anything to do with LGBTQ. Where’s the anger about that? 1 in 5 Kenyan teens will drop out of school because a pedophile got them pregnant. Are your leaders talking about that? A study done in Australia indicated that 1 in 6 adult men found children to be sexually attractive. 1 in 10 admitted to committing the act. They also found that those who admitted desire and had acted upon it were people who
• work with children
* be married
* have higher levels of social support
* earn higher incomes
* * be a victim of child sexual abuse
Instead of focusing on LGBTQ that children don’t even have the bandwidth to understand teach them about morals and values that will keep them safe out in the world. Teach them about consent. 89% of pedophiles stop once they realize the child has an awareness of what is happening & is likely to tell. The child saying ‘No’ is a huge deterrent. You are more likely to encounter a pedophile than a gay person. Don’t buy into the sensationalism of perceived danger from a small group and miss the very real danger lurking.
@@PRINTERPAGEI wonder why you wouldn't think that being born homosexual is not part of the diversity of nature and creation as those who are heterosexual/straight.
Just like we have Asians and blacks, we have homosexuals too.
Looking foward to this!!! Michelle is such a force to be reckoned with ❤❤❤
Jagero,your office plant has really improved,i have been tracking its change in greenness ,the light u put in there has done the trick
If you are not hurting anyone and you are happy, just continue living your happy life. Life does not have a manual.
I find the whole thing of “coming out “ crazy! You don’t have to come out to declare what or who you’re into…the fact that you feel the need to “come out “ then you know something is off already with your situation
Very true
Live a good life and be kind to those around. Remember it is what you leave behind when you are gone that counts.
She has not wondered too far God is still on the throne imagine
It's part of women's rights
Decolonise your mind.
I should say congratulations to the guest and warm reception from dwj. However I should say that dialogue was limiting and the questions weren't prompt. The discussion to begin with bible before knowing the religious belief was so low especially from jagero. I hope next podcast will score highly
Thanks for watching, hope we can do better next time!
We are under no obligation to 'understand and accept' your madness.
I'm afraid the way this people are given platforms they influence innocent ones to this madness
Madness is an interesting choice of word considering what level of mindlessness it has to take for a person to be so unable to hold other people's truths so much that they think of it as "madness".
Thank u God bless u. Forgive me but this is a way to lure innocent gals to join this satanic behaviors. Give us any quote in the bible where the disciples were queers nonsense@@mrswaweru789
For starters its none of your business. Mind yours!
By 'her madness' you mean her agency and autonomy? 😕
She is very factual and the fact that she has been promiscuous in her life, it concludes to what led into her current living.
She is soo cute 😊. Am proud of you
No she is not😅
Have always love to watch Mitchell.
It's sections 162 and 165 of the penal code, not article 165 of the Constitution
Exactly.I was also wondering which type of the constitution she was referring to
Very proud of this woman.
Watu wako na hasira sana huku nje.....my friend, if you are doing good, continue doing good and if you are doing bad, continue doing bad... So kila mtu akae pale anafaa and let's all wait for judgement from our Maker. Let's leave His job to Him (God).. i come in peace.
Sad
May Jesus locate this gorgeous gal.
No
Your mindset is 'sad'
@@valentine2533 there is nothing sad in her mindset.. you are just self acclaimed lads
To begin with, I come in peace...
We judge a lot the lgbtq group yet we glorify and normalize sex before marriage, sex b4 marriage in whatever gender you do with is a sin. We lean on one side because we want to feel more holier than others which is so not cool..
She's sooo happy and I'm sure Jesus is working to keep her that way with her wife. When others have a good life aren't bothering anyone, idk why we try to put them down.
I'm sure she's had her own internal battles about this with Jesus and she found nothing but love and peace from him (Jesus)
the only confusion is the misquotation of the law as the provisions they are stating are from the penal code and not the 2010 COK but the detailing and interpretation is on point
Is it just me? I dread this as a parent. I pray for my kids everyday that they turn out okay in this life.
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We are many.and I think giving this people platforms is not on.this is not African culture.tupeni mawe.
@@mrswaweru789 it’s not just an African thing. Even in liberal countries like America, people dread this. You can see the Trump administration fighting hard to being back some normalcy and protection of the family unit.
@@mrswaweru789Is stealing and corruption African culture?
It amazes me how Kenyans are happy to accept and even accept the extreme injustice, corruption, dishonest and stealing in the community and yet demonize people's sexualities just coz someone somewhere decided to condemn it
@@LoveHumansAsGodLovesYou
God has given people like President Donald Trump and President Museveni a leadership opportunity a platform to let the world know that such are abnormal and must be kept off the open platform. these are evil and evil and there are no other words for making an evil and sinful activity other than just confirming that its evil. Romans 1:26-27
We listen we do not judge but We condemn and reject it for our own blood
Without being judgmental, I wish someone could educate her that her existence is as a result of a relationship between a man and a woman. I know local artists will not resonate with this statement.
Very True, from her story she went to all girls schools from small age and also she was raised by a single mum. These are very important points
I'm sure she's aware. That's basic biology.
But we all know we exist because of an hetero relationship at some point 👉 but rather learn and unlearn we live our true self ❤
They are not important points in any way. She has said very clearly, she was never attracted to boys from a very early age - this we can assume was before she lost her father. What will you say when you meet the others who do not fall in any of the demographics that you have described?
@@wambuikingatua3820 What do you consider important in regard to the subject matter?
I can't judge her but pray for her that one day she will change. I have a girlfriend who's queer and every time i tell her to try date a man she gets mad at me so bad so i let her be but still friends
She left being an atheist so leaving lesbianism possible. She said that she would want a child of her own but still a lesbian and look for a role model somewhere, that tells me she knows whatever she's doing isn't right. Let her make up her mind and have a family the right way.
Y'all out here hating and pretending hamjalearn anything common.. common sense oughts to be very common but clearly again it's not... Mitchell I wish you all the best Gal❤❤❤ y'all are out here sinning 😅😅with y'all order of nature
We Love you Mitch❤💐
This belief of a every child needs a father or man really frastrates me coz there's a million of men in homes who are just there and they are as good as the kids and it turns to be a woman doing most of providing, paying bills and disciplining of kids so its so sad that society believe that they are that important in homes.Actually there are a lot of married single women in society.am a straight woman i don't blieve in LGBTQ .
Men were created to do more than what people know they do. A father is a father whether earning or not, whether normal or abnormal- only his children, God and His community understands his value and will know the relevance of his absence. A Man husband has a divine purpose in the life of an obedient wife, The wife so much know His worth and thats why some women will prefer joining another marriage to be counted part of it even if the man has no job. God knows why He placed order in the human family set up. Thanks to God for bringing back president Donald trump to preach the worth of a family to the human race in todays' world. Shalom
@@ibrahimokuro1020 you're misplacing the word of God and the purpose of a father in the home.its actually a sin for a man to bring the children in this planet and fail to purposely provide and the same Bible again says the good wise father lives inheritance for his kids this includes a positive legacy generally but fathers of now are nowhere near to Gods guidance.
Children most definitely need a father - the kind that is actually intentional in his role as an involved dad. But having one cannot prevent anything from happening, it is not a magic ward that protects children from making whatever choices they will make - I do not think there are kids who want to become gay but decide against it because they have a father. I think that people try to rationalize things they do not understand by blaming extra ordinary situations, single mums being the most common.
@@ibrahimokuro1020 The "divine purpose" of a father is to provide for his offspring and family. Some men have failed in their role as fathers, husbands. The only reason some women hang on to men or relationships that do not even make sense to man or beast is because in our society, we demonize, castigate and stigmatize single women and single mothers, in some communities it is such a taboo it becomes impossible to survive even financially without attaching themselves to a man.
@@wambuikingatua3820 I agree with what you say but the fact remains that joblessness and lack of a source of income is a mental problems that troubles all men. As a man I feel it and it pains me most. But lacking a source of income should not be a reason to make somebody lose his position that God ordained of him as the head of a family and a father of his children. I know of so many instances that one feeds his family but the moment he looses his job, a divorce is filed against him.
Such behaviour led to destruction of Sodom and komora. May God rescue our community
Wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it right is right even if no one is doing it.
Kabisa
She's very beautiful. Men mko wapi? Can't you convince her otherwise? This is terrible
I believe some individuals on the African continent are getting into these areas to create content.
True but most of them, its the underworld way of creating confusion in Gods creation
Hapa inje mko na mambo.
But single parents have raised more children than more parents.
Those pipo who hate have just own depression & anxiety.
Environment has alot of influence in our lives.single mother&girl schools made her choose her path.
It's always a man commenting badly about Single mothers 😭
Correct
Especially girls school, those of us who went to mixed schools never saw this.
The interviewer please,do some homework before you meet the client.For example if she is a lesbian,study the subject.
You asking a sensitive question,it is not time to lift a mug and get the smile of your face.
Hii ndyo inaitwa Kumbaff…kuaibisha waluya
Romans 1:28-32 ..Furthermore just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God,so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought to be done.They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, greed and depravity.....etc.
This is what happens when you decide to lean on your own understanding....Deception from the devil is real....these are the last days.....and revelation says if one has an ear let them hear......i know someone is going to say i am judging....but God's word is clear.....its light...its life it set's you free........
These are the last days.....its either you are with Christ on not...The book of .Joshua says....CHOOSE YE THIS DAY WHOM YOU WILL SERVE.....these are the end times......
You can come after me but k ow that ....everything shall pass...but only God's word will remain....
Did you choose to be attracted to men or just found yourself being attracted to them? Why do you think it’s a choice? Please tell me how much time Jesus spent talking about homosexuality. I’ll wait.
These are the last days. Expect anything but know that God will never change His laws to fit people's choices...
@ Do you apply all laws according to the Bible?
Delulu is the solulu😏
You cannot sin and be with God..
Tusidanganyane hapa..
Let's leave some things to God and not do his work. His fruits are happiness and Joy and that's all I see here, clearly God is at work too.
Love is not a sin
Then all of us are not with God.
@@avamrima5301God has not hidden from us His will... He has said what He wants and what He doesn't want...He is holy and doesn't not call what is wrong right .. We should see things as He sees them...
@@paulysutsiey649God is not poor... He has so many who do His will and who hates evil .
Mungu naomba nikae katika hema yako.Dunia kuna mchafuko
"Can pigs fly"?
If pigs identify as eagles, they can most definitely fly.....
Freedom is not doing what you wanna do... Freedom is denying sin... SIN MAKES YOU A SLAVE!!! SLAVE!!!!!!!!
God ain't a confusion
You're doing a fantastic job! I have a quick question: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How can I transfer them to Binance?
Who am I to judge her while the Lord is still on the throne of merci i have seen thousands of girls like her changed and for her it's not too late
PROBLEM ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY, THEY R VERY SENSITIVE ONCE U ASK QUESTIONS, TO THEM IS DISCRIMINATION, they r not open and willing to teach us
Because there is only one the devil doesn't want light....what do you think should be open here
The devil is a liar, a destroyer of destiny
Your statement is a gross generalisation. I'm queer and I implore you to as any question at all under the sun and I will answer what I can in truth and good faith within the context and limits of my own anecdotal experience and what I have learnt.
Uhm! Excuse me..didn't you watch the interview
She is literally the opposite of defensive...
Hapa nayo it's not true. She's seated and speaking. It doesn't mean cross certain boundaries in the name of being taught. Kama uko na swali, uliza hapa comment section.
How do you want to be persuaded or persued yet again you want to be a man,it means you feel otherwise
@josephineatieno8543 where has she said she wants to be a man? 🤔
Article 165 majorly talks about the establishment of the high court.
Which clause is she referring to
She confused the Kenyan Penal code with the constitution
Jagero, I’m your fan from Namibia, I love your shows and follow you, I’m a bit disappointed at this discussion what’s this lady talking about. To me she is confused and she is confusing especially young people who are at tender ages like teenagers who are going through identity crisis. Why does she want male sperm to have a child, why can’t she have sex with her woman partner and have their children? She is promoting all these nonsense, why can’t lesbians have children with themselves rather than using male sperms yet they do not promote normal life and relationships. Like what type of madness is this? I have a plea my brother Jagaro, for you to please focus your having shows on things that build and contributes positively to African people and societies. These nonsense are foreign and European agendas being promoted in our African societies.
Calm down Becky. This DWJ meaning dialogues. Not everybody agrees with you but you see they have allowed you to say whatever you wanna say. Who gives you the right to say the things you wanna say has given her the right to say what she wanna say.
@@beckyshiimi7536 I didn't even finish watching.serms this guy has an agenda of promoting homosexuality in Kenya
She wants to chased like a woman, to persue is too much for her she says,she wants a male role model for her children,she wants male sperms, what then is she talking about ?all that she is saying is that she is doing the wrong thing
@@TheJagerohow this will impact souls you will answer..
Hello. trying to make payment through mpesa but not succeeding
We need to learn more about this 'community' so that we can know how you can help them.
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How about you first help the Kenyan community to adapt honesty, love, justice and fight against corruption?
Imagine wako sawa tu. Enda parliament and tafuta hawa wanaume wanaua our women left right and centre.
The Bible just reveals God. Thats the God looking out for you. Praying that Jesus finally finds you
Jesus is always at the door knocking... It's upon us to open the door or not
@Jagero i heard that in Uganda even having such discussion can be criminal.. it could be termed as recruiting.... en its punishable
thankfully this isnt Uganda
Nope. I'm in Kampala, no such thing. The law is not enforced.
not true...life is just the same,no one really cares...
I can't even waste data on this...Jo are u payed to promote these gays...am done with you
Just pray that our children don't come across this
@@brendahasanapray for wisdom to have difficult conversations. Your children know more than you think.
Weee noma
be tolerant to other people,the world is big for everyone 😂😂
We listen but we don't judge. Yako kesho hauijui.
Wah, the further you go from God the more confused you become because essentially you don't create or belong to yourself, for yourself... it's just that simple
Stay out of Ponography you will avoid so much!
Your eyes is the gate to your body and spirit.
Hallo Jagero, Thanks for how you conduct the interviews, making clear what something is. What is evil and sinful is evil and sinful, even if we develop English Phrases to make them look good. I once worked in an organization that was dealing with such. I think the information came as a shock and the evangelist in me had the opportunity to speak up and rebuke the sin. I was asked to recunt my words which I refused to do so, I was warned of dare consequences that included my sacking. I was jobless but happy to be on God's side of seeing things. Deut 29: 29 says that the secret things belongs to God and those things that have been revealed belongs to us and to our children even our childrens children. Truly, if such kind of people are prayed for, just like the blind with eyes restored, they get restored well. Romans 1:26-27 By God permitting things, that does not make them good for the human race.
Where is the fear of God really???
What Jagero has said, its a sin, but hey, we glorify sin right?..
Canila whaaaaatt?😮😮😂😂
Just a question,if you are going to have a family with two mothers wont you then confuse the kids?again this means you will "use"an innocent man to sire kids with.
you do realize gay men also exist right?
No I don't think there is confusion anywhere. Many Kenyans like her with a wife have kids some even more than 4 children and they are doing well. Some of their children even have families of their own.
Sinning in the name of feelings, we don't need this kind of interviews
Love is not a SIN
Love of sin is evil. @@melodynjuki2202
Hii syllabus inaenda mbio sana. So...do you guys get character developed like the rest of us on this side of life? The heterosexual side is what I mean.
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@C_Sonnie Sina ubaya hata imagine😂😂
Character development is everywhere my dear friend.
And what is the thing with the lgbtq colours?
Jagero a lady leaves her home to Aman's home in the normal setup..in Mitchell's case of wife and wife who's home is the couple gonna stay?
It's an interesting question. I mean from my experience it's mostly been that if either side of the family is accepting of their union, the two families agree how things go.
I LIKE IT WHEN I SEE WOMEN FIGHTING FOR THEIR RIGHTS. FOR OTHERS YOU CAN CONTINUE LIVING YOUR RELIGIOUS/HOLY LIFE.
Mungu wangu .kifo hiki. Mjue Mumba wako .siku zako zimekwisha
she should come to uganda in just two weeks she will be set on the right path ave ku busiyazi
Jah,is she aluhya,her name sounds alike.🤔🤔
Confused about God
God can not accept this kind of marriage and even the universe won't...this is so bold of this lady how i wish she was doing the right thing.
Are you God's spoke person?
@@josephinesuji5900 I wonder too
Has God not set an example of a family? Has He not told us what He loves and what He hates.. God will not change His laws to fit our immoral behaviours...@@josephinesuji5900
Dont have male friends, now thats too far🤔
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Well,no judgement here.
How can one be spiritual and you read the Bible and the bible is the compass to our live I pray that my daughter will not come across this video....nkt
1:20:00 don't be the person they are talking about here
Don't be the parent that when your child turns out to be a lesbian woman you are the first to push them to take their own life
Believe me, I know she's fought with God about this more than any of us tupende tusipende like the battles we each have with God. Getting to a place where she openly speaks about her journey is not easy
@@avamrima5301do you know that we are supposed to run away from sexual immorality as per the word of God?
A waste of my time and bundles😢
I hate this respect God for sure 😢😢😢😢
She needs spiritual help
Indeed as much as we are all sinners it's of great concern that she get that spiritual help my own opinion 🙏
Michelle go baby 🥳🥳🥳🥳
Where
Oooiye shes so innocent 😢❤
Kamba ladies.. where did you go wrong
I thght she said she's luhya ama
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😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 ati order of nature
I've never encountered anyone who was attracted to girls exclusively from a very young age. Most people develop feelings in their teens or later. So in this case, there's more to it than society thinks. I always thought it was a choice, but it must be biological.
Sweetheart kama for real unataka watoto...it means you are lost!!Kama umeamua ni lesbianism kwanini unataka watoto basi?You are contradicting yourself
uzuri she can get a kid if she so wishes and still continue being a lesbian. I doubt her partner will have any issue.
Watu wamejam uku😅😅😅😅
Children brought up by single parents especially mothers,are crooked because of lack of father figure in the family..
That's entirely false
No mine are all straight
medicle problem isnt a choice
Karembo i understand your stand on religion n it's ok.but think about think dea,why did universe or God creat the organs of a female n male?
Exactly
Spiritual pple run from the real reality..
What do you mean african countries like Kenya need evidence 😂😂? It's kenya in Africa. No evidence is needed as long as it's police or prosecutor have money, then you go to court and to Jail 🤷♀️🤷♀️
Hahaha..Until she decides to get married and leave her past behind and have babies and raise a family with her man.
People need a lot of education starting with the host, there is a lot to learn on this and just 1 or 2 LQBTQ+ guest isn't enough.
Michele is kind, is in touch with her real self and very non-judgmental sababu some of the questions..eh!
I wish the very best to you Michelle and your partner, soon to be wife❤ Explore outside of Kenya.