Torque 1980 - Episode 04
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The above links to an article from the Australian Women''s Weekly dated Oct 16 1974, about the then new Torque program and Peter Wherrett.
"Torque began in 1974 and continued to rate highly in its evening timeslot for the ABC until it came to an end in 1980. Peter Wherrett always said he made the series with the public broadcaster because he wanted to be able to pull no punches about those vehicles that had safety or engineering problems. It was this forthright honesty that attracted the audience to Torque over the years." (Janet Bell - 'Australian Screen' NFSA)
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I'm only 23 so this aired way before my time, but holy crap is this bloke on the ball. He totally gets it, and I'm stoked that mainstream broadcasting networks actually aired this at the time.
Sadly lacking today. Except perhaps to a certain extent Cadogan on TH-cam.
This program lacks diversity. 🙄
Look up kingswood country ..
@@jcee6886 Cadogan is a second rate bogan, Not in Wherret's league
Back in those days the ABC took seriously its charter to produce quality shows. And, of course, they were funded to be able to do it.
Aside from the reviews, I love all the old street footage - signage, Valiants cruising along, all the nice 'old' houses
And Amaroo and Oran Park race circuits 🙂
Don't forget all the Holdens......
Yeah, so cool to see it again as normal life.
Aussie TV when it was worth watching
Only If your easily brainwashed like the current crop of vegan lesbian left wing transgender homosexual bi Xbox playing Netflix TH-cam Facebook deadshits.
I remember driving a 1980 Toyota Corona for a couple of weeks in the mid 90's. My vehicle had been in an accident and the Corona was a loan car.
Without contest, the Corona was the worst car I have ever driven. The 3 speed automatic amplified the total lack of power, combined with it's ability to evaporate fuel was amazing. It's handling was atrocious, with a total lack of grip combined with steering wheel that was totally disconnected from any road feel. I think Peter Wherret was being very kind.
It probably had the Holden backfire engine
@@tafnamtaf8909 Yes, in the sedan. You had to get the 5 door lft back variant, to have the Toyota 18R engine and 5 speed manual.
A Toyota with a GM engine...I'm surprised Mr Toyoda allowed that!
@@Warpedsmac it was due to australian government regulations. Toyota of australia made the decision to go with the starfire so idk if Toyoda even knew at the time.
Peter was a very good motoring journalist, he stood up to the big 3 (G.M.H. Ford, Chrysler) in the 70's and 80's and made public the faults that existed in their products, he was always pushing for safer cars, there was no bullshit with him, he told it like it was. R.I.P. Pete.....
The real topgear
Lol
Presented by a real Aussie cross dresser
These were a great car show and it would be good to see something like this again on Australian screens. I was in my teens around this time and it helped me understand how cars worked and drove. Too bad there isn't anyone like Peter Wherrett anymore on Australian TV.
What do you mean?? there are plenty of drag's on TV these days!
@@MrFister84 - what a small and stupid little person you are.
The problem being that most automotive journalists seem more interested in praising cars than critiquing them.
@Deevo037 - the only way they can get advertising revenue.
Mind you prior to that if you wrote bad things you didn't get to go to releases in Switzerland etc, wined, dined, best hotels and the show bag of gifts and jacket you took home. My business partner years ago was a mate of Paul Gover, said his jacket gift collection was staggering.
@@markmark5269 Unfortunately true. Usually you can pick an honest revue from what some journalists might refer to as manufacturer fellatio. There's no such thing as a perfect car, all you can really hope to achieve is a vehicle who's good points outweigh its bad points.
watching these videos feel like looking at 70s America in an alternate universe. the cars are different yet strangely familiar. motorweek has some great retro reviews of american cars. this channel is a great find.
Had a 1980 Corona from 1980 to 1995, it saw me through interest rates property purchases did some very long trips.Some say a lot of themselves commenting on the personal life of the presenter.
@Yuck Foutube Everyone has a right to privacy if they wish & an expectation that they will not be denigrated over their differences.Even in 2019 some don't get it.None of the detractors lived in his shoes, he & his brother achieved & did more with their lives than most.Peter has been dead just shy for 10 years, the concept of R.I.P. seems to be beyond the grasp of some. As far as bleating about the bias of the ABC is concerned, multiple enquiries have found no case.
I had a 1980 corona....rt132...imported hatchback. Toyota 2L...not the holden engine. Gee it was great.
Thanks for posting these old motoring programs Love them real time capsules of a lot of the cars I grew up with in New Zealand. I have now subscribed great site.
This dude bought a new meaning too "Heel" and toe.
Never saw it. Really good show. You could put this on now and it would get viewers for sure.
I agree with you Mark :)
In NZ, we had the 2T and 3T engines.
They were 1.6 and 1.8 respectively, and were a "semi-hemi".
Went really well, and fairly grunty at the time.
This is 10 times better than top gear this is a real car show.
Right on m8! Those idiots make the show all about them rather than the car. The only people I ever rated on top gear were Quentin Wilson & Tiff Needel ( a former racing driver) both of whom are highly clued up about the automotive industry. I've only discovered Peter Wherrett recently but this is the best car show I have ever seen and I love the inclusion of legit driving tips alot of which have been proven in rallying to keep control of the car in an emergency situation. Brilliant car program 👌🏻👍🏻
Someone I used to know had this Toyota with the star fire 4. It had 850,000 kms on the clock. But yes, not a refined or a sophisticated engine.
The liftback from the same year was fully imported from memory and it came with the toyota engine which would of been an 18r.
The body roll on that Toyota, oh my god
Haha. We had an XD s pack falcon. Thought it was very modern. Mother had a head on in it, bent the steering wheel over with her body. Lucky to have lived.
I forgot how handsome and sharp the second series 200B was.
That XD looked magnificent!
Are you kidding? Every Falcon from XD to AU was fugly!
Cole Hartel look up the word opinion.
@@colehartel7206 no one particularly cares what you think, and the hundreds of thousands of people who bought them and still own them would tend to disagree with your loan opinion. I'm sure you love your Hyundai Excel however.
only the AU was fugly.@@colehartel7206
Haven't seen a XD in ages. Then saw one at the traffic lights a few days ago and really appreciated it. It was like seeing a long lost friend.
Back when tyres were a much simpler car part. These days you have endless variations with stupid prices attached. RFT tyres come to mind immediately.
They said about the first 200B (it might have been Peter Wherrett who also said it) "The 200B is just a 180B with 20 more mistakes" LOL
What a great show.
The Starfire motor was a slow heap of junk, what a travesty when Toyota had some really good engines even back then!!!
The Backfire engine sure was a one limp biscuit. Reliable but limp.
I remember mountains of these at Pickapart in Kilsyth years ago.
@white pride yeah they'd have whole cars for sale sitting up the end of the carpark. Can't say I remember that particular HQ but jeez they had cars there that would be worth a fair bit of money now. I remember a pretty tidy XB 302 wagon there once. Looking back I wish I had have bought it. 😕
@white pride remember all the Skodas and Fiats at Pickapart? Ha! Hundreds of em😂 Yeah that caryard's empty now. Might stay that way too if they ever build the Dorset Rd extension.
Try finding 1 of these coronas for parts now a days they are almost non existing
@@bingysbackyard like most oldys now.
Hahaha mine was one of them! May it rust in hell, that decrepit sack of shit!
1st time I've seen this brilliant
4:10 I had forgotten about people driving around with the rear window of early panel vans open 😎😎😎😎
Star fire wow. I watched the HubNut video on this car. I assumed they made that noise because it was old. But wow.
I like the term town carriage. What a great way of not blasting a car but looking at its merits at a lower level.
Heroic uploads - thank you very much indeed! (Ohhh that poor Starfire Corona...how tragic!)
the Starfire Torana was worse
oh yuck...it ran an awful gm piece of shit engine?
@@keptinkaos6384 I had a bottom of the range commodore L with a starfire 4. Worst pairing since sonny and Cher.
@@jcee6886 oh yeah and i had a VH 3.3L aka the .202ci blue pile oh crap the one with the nylon dizzy gear that if the engine misfired it would strip it in a heart beat did it once to me the remains got into the oil pump jammed it no pressure no motor either.the only good engines put into these cars were VB all it was still the red motors V.C most except the 4cyl the V.H the 4.2 and 5.0' were ok the V.K all of them were Shit the H.D.T, Brocks were good but they were very sorted cars the Nissan fired V.L,s might just have been the best of the sixes period.
@@keptinkaos6384 The Nissan Six is a jewel of an engine...silky, gutsy and tough (provided that the substandard Holden radiator plumbing is bled of air, of course.)
First impressions are the turn in fits me great as I have turned and the boot is perfect for keeping my frocks.
The XT130 Corona was shocking compared to the previous model. The Starfire four was crap and the sheet metal was thinner and rusted. The Australian Government was giving tax breaks to overseas car companies if they used a certain percentage of Australian content, e.g. PBR or Girling brakes, Aussie Borg Warner diffs and the crappy Holden sawn off six.
23:00 - Datsun/Nissan 200B. Rust around the qtr panels & glass/panel seals before it exited the dealership. A complete rust bucket....
And trimatic
gjmob 300 000 km never anything wrong with it , changed oil very 5k
The previous Corona had ballsy engine.
@@wilson2455 okay! We get it!
When the corolla turned on I was like wtf, Diesel?
Corona
Back when the ABC was for everyone!
As a paddock basher, the corona was a beast
The Starfire engine = the original Corona Virus!!
It was one limp biscuit that engine.
Oh what a feeling Toyota! 🎉
I wonder how many door handles they had to replace on that xd lol
That was a special safety feature to keep people OUT of the car. They still sell the door handles at autobahn to this day. My vk has door handles that are built like a tank, fords were cheap nasty shit. And the bumpers drooping were just delicious to look at.
Alot of valients about when he tested corolla. Can't believe the 4.0l elb used less fuel than a 2.0 cortina! Banging on about drums in the rear - it's still that way today!
I got 32mpg in my 4.0 manuel ELB Valiant back in the day.
Why am I watching 1980s Australian car shows? I don't know, but I am.
Because it’s more entertaining and educational than the crap that passes for television these days. I mean endless cooking shows and married at first sight is considered high art in 2022.
THEM good old days. when you could watch a tv program. and THEY ACTUALLY TEST THE CAR.
This is such a great program. Top gear is unbelievably cringey nowadays with the constant lame attempts at humour rather than just presenting the information we need to hear. Peter Wherrett is excellent. I realize the guy is no longer with us and I deliberately refered to him in a present tense because he is the epitome of a motoring journalist. Spot on 👍🏻👌🏻. Incidentally that ford xd falcon is practically identical to a car here in the UK by the name of Granada (a 1980 version obviously)... The later models went in different directions.
Oran Park RIP
Yep Oran Park is now Leggoland
23:00 - Datsun/Nissan 200B. Rust around the qtr panels & glass/panel seals before it exited the dealership. A complete rust bucket....
Ok we get it, no need to post the same comment as a reply on every other comment on this video
This guy is the antithesis of the Australian bogan. Where are these figures now?
I had a corona in high school in the late 90s. Bored out and skimmed heads resulting in higher compression made the little starfire a bit more responsive and the car a pretty fun little nugget. Those cars can take a punishing.
The Starfire engine, aka the Misfire!
Never missed Torque. Dont know why ABC dont have a motor car program now days
I think it has something to do with Australians killing off the local automotive industry by choosing Thai built twin cab 4WDs and Korean Hatchbacks. Contrast that with American motorist who would no sooner buy Asian or European cars than fly to the moon.
@Denes Szerdahelyi globalist? Ford, GM, Chrysler/Mitsubishi, Toyota, Nissan... you can't get much more globalist than that!
And don't believe everything Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt tell you about the ABC (both hard right wingers).
The ABC? They're to busy bowing down and promoting the nutty Lefties
@@fractalign you mean like the Commodore? A car that was only bolted together here from overseas parts and that was so far behind it couldnt compete on the world stage....yea righto.
LOL that was my first car,love it why? got me from a to b beats the bus
Peter tries his hardest to find something good to say about this $hitbox!
10-11 Ltrs per 100ks!!! I whinge about my i30 getting 8.2. We have come a long way. Best car I ever had for fuel economy was the KE Laser with a 1.6 Ltr engine it would return 6.8 on a long trip!
Not sure if i can take styling critique from a dude in a brown beret
Mamama my Corona.!
And the corona and other small cars, including sigma were rear wheel drive.
I had a 120y back in 96
I'm old enough to have owned a 200B, albeit a wagon. I agree that the motor was good, really good for a 4 of the day, with surprising power. And handling in the dirt was great. But the stabilty under hard braking was woeful, locking up and going sideways meant caution was the order of the day... 🙂
Oran park 👍 gone now ,😪
79/80 and cross plies?? No new cars were fitted with them and had not been for 4 or 5 years
The old Ford would've needed a wheel alignment after that🤣🤣 I loved all my x series Ford's, but changing lanes would put the alignment out and a 6 year old would break the outer door handles
looks better than the 1983 Nissan Stanza.
Jeez, he would have been better off reviewing those chromed shine boots at 14.00. hahaha
Won’t even fit an esky. Wouldn’t even look at it , I’d rather walk.
If it didn't rain you wouldn't need tread on tyres ......where does he live ?
toyota still puts drum brakes in the back of the bloody Yaris
@Yuck Foutube oh they work ok but they cost 3 times as much to service when the time comes and when they get wet they have a tendency to fail big time.
A Yaris weighs as much as a shopping trolley! Fred Flintstone brakes are more than adequate for a Yaris.
@Yuck Foutube maybe but i was a courier and i will take a $150 pad disk pad change over a $500 pad and wheel cylinder change any day.work sure do the job ok but a good idea i don't think so.
The Holden 'red' 6 cylinder was a good engine, but cutting off 2 cylinders making it the starfire 4, or otherwise known as the 'backfire' 4, they were never successful! Unreliable and Gutless!! Think Toyota Australia used the engine so the car would have some Aussie components and probably to try and save money, not a good move!
I do not think the car is too bad to look at, Toyota have always been a bit conservative, they like to build a well made reliable vehicle and have earned RESPECT worldwide for that!!!!
I have in the past used retread tires just for daily driving, i did not have any problems with them, really they did not seem much different to any other tire. They wore well too, they were a Goodyear retread, they were a good retread.
Done for local content rules to lower tariffs, IIRC.
Purely political reasons to do with local content etc. Toyota basically had their hands tied. A real shame as the Toyota engines were really good. Thankfully the versions we got in NZ had the Japanese engines.
What about the pit crew
Bravo 👏
Jesus, what didn't this bloke flog off over?
That starfire 4 old inline 6 holden with 2 pistons chopped out lmao absolute heap of shit (As were those horrible holden 6s (Early jobs)
Why did they put that cut-down Holden engine in it? Import tariffs?
they were built in Victoria I think there was a cost thing and some political BS
Start of the Button plan aimed at reducing the number of car manufacturers and sharing of components and whole cars. This saw the Falcon ute badged as the Nissan Ute, Commodore sold by Toyota as the Lexcen and other weird offerings.
Charles James yep and the Nissan patrol got Ford badges the Toyota Camry got holden badges and that's how holden put a Nissan skyline 6 in the last narrow body commodore and it was the best 6 cyl commodore made.
@@keptinkaos6384 That's ominous...the Holden plant reduced the Toyota to mediocre, The Nissan plant lifted the Holden to its best yet incarnation and the Button plan started reducing and standardizing. Perhaps the Button plan and various subsidies softened the landing because it took 35 more years to die and yet that Nissan 6 and that Starfire 4 really said it all, way back then.
@@mebeasensei best and worse case I got to drive all of those cars extensively for a mates hire car company on the road between Cairns and Port Douglas doing some car ferrying for him that road was somewhat mean and tended to show a car's weaknesses pretty fast. the Japanese cars were well built and drove well but were asthmatic under the pedal when you needed power Aussie cars had power but squeaked a lot from poor finish mind you the falcon and the Commodore were still the better country road cars in the end.
Duh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh
Myyyyyy Corona
Bet ya never thought that your comment would be so on point a few months later huh. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I had one of those Coronas. It was the most useless, slow, body rolling, wallowing sacks of shit I’ve ever witnessed. Moving to a totally clapped out 89 camry with fucked struts and 340,000k’s on the clock was a massive upgrade.
That starfire engine was terrible , way worse then the previous model .
The Camry of today
ABC could have organised rattle guns for the poor buggers.
19:41 I guess you can have a traffic density like that on the F3 Sydney-Newcastle Freeway when the country has 14 million people and a wee small toll.
@Yuck Foutube Especially the part when there was a car and car components manufacturing industry with only 14 million people. Things have moved too fast from just under 40 years ago.
"Fairly ordinary handling" = handles like a bag of shit.
The 4 cylinder StarFire engine was an absolute pile of shit.
thumbs down for the 15 sec add break straight of the bat
Fuck I want one...
70s and 80s cars were true drivers cars. They had unique looks and designed with characteristics which were intended to give them identity. Now the cars of today are plasticated frog eye all look the same over priced complicated electronica rubbish. Designers and car makers need to go back to basics. Bring design back and perhaps look at American cars from the 50s for inspiration when cars were built and sketched by men with true car blood.
Going back to basics would result in higher fuel consumption and many more injuries and deaths, to both vehicle occupants and pedestrians. No thanks.
Peter often was concerned with comfort when in the car, hence he liked slipping into a cocktail frock or even a sexy midi skirt when occasion demanded.
"After Wherrett and Mathers separated in 2006, Peter went to live as a woman, Pip Wilson, at Lake Macquarie.[9] Peter lived as a woman for the last two years of his life, and described this as "my last great achievement""
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Wherrett#Personal_life
Fair enough, he was a good bloke and a good sheila too!
@@stmounts He was a transvestite for many years, yes.
so unnecessary
@@grant1352 Why, he was free to wear whatever he wanted & he looked great in a tutu.
Datsun 280B,
It's got holes in the floors and dents in the doors,
Datsun 280B!
Roll down the hill and pay the bill,
Datsun 280B!
2 hundred Bee dude
Wow. I was unaware they put one of those shithouse Starfires in a Toyota Corona for the Aussie market. They'd never have sold one if they'd tried that here in NZ.
Why would anyone try anything in NZ? We always try to send the shit back, including Darryn fuckwit Hinch.
@@thomaselliott573 Yet we got the proper Corona with an engine that was actually good. Yeah, we're the chumps... hahaha
Even if it had sheep skin seats?
@@J-SH06 Ok you found our achilles heel... anything sheep related!
@@TonyRule the top of the line XX model got the proper Toyota engine in Aus.
a hot day back then? before global warming and climate change were dreamt up??
So, you don't understand the difference between climate and weather?
Mate, don't try and argue with these two rhodes scholars.@@donnyaxe78
Smartest thing said in this thread. :)@@Monsieur405
anything that requires big corporation shitlords to pay out to do their part for the environment is "dreamt up"
god daym i get my climate change info from comrade trump and his donors.
Peter "Whinging Greenie" Wherret 😂😂
Lol... this dude was a cross dresser in his later life.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Toyotas were slow back then. Nothing's changed!
Not an Aurion driver ?
@@freeagent8225 No thanks!
0-100 in 12 seconds.
the corona was a car was for public servants and accountants to commute to work meh! the 200B was for yuppies
Datsun released an LPG version of the 200B(single fuel LPG, not dual fuel).
It was not a success and was bought mainly by government departments.
I've read a lot about the lack of handling and mechanical refinement on these old-school Japanese cars, but it's great to actually see it. Now that I've witnessed it... my god these things were complete tugboats lol. It's like it's actively trying to resist turning.