Dave Rubin Attacks Sam Seder, Calls Him 'Dishonest Player'
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- Dave Rubin thinks that Sam Seder is dishonest. But what's the real reason he's avoiding Sam? Sam and the Majority Report crew discuss this.
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Dave Rubin; "I just like talking about ideas."
Progressives; "Ok let's do it."
Dave Rubin; "No not your ideas."
White Nationalist; "We got some ideas."
Dave Rubin; "Perfect."
slaps label on the dishonest day trader. claps hands.
Dave: the left doesn't want to talk about ideas.
Also Dave: actually anyone on the left who wants to discuss ideas is just a dishonest actor.
Which political stance has Seder taken that can be described as honest?
Daniel Y all of them? I haven't really seen any evidence that he doesn't believe what he says.
Daniel Y damn you just DESTROYED Sam! /s
@@daniely8350 which stance could be described as dishonest?
His brain is in permanent recovery mode from taking in so many high level important ideas.
He can't have actual leftists on his show because his brain is still in recovery mode from taking in so many high level, important ideas.
Glen Elendra i think the koch brothers control what guests get airtime not him
I mean, just look at Shapiro on BBC. That Neil is huge conservative and Shapiro couldn't handle him because that guy was actually intellectually honest. Even though I disagree with that guy on every policy, he's at least open and honest about it. Imagine when he'd face someone like Kyle Kulinski on the debate stand.
Does anyone else find it absolutely stunning that he uses the word "high level" to mean important when most people use that phrase to mean "summary" or "bird's eye view of the issue?"
@@ezpk- A better way for him to have put it: "I have difficulty processing the profundity of these issues, because of the number at which are being presented to me. My itty bitty brain can't do the think good".
God it makes me happy seeing Rave Dubin get constantly dunked on.
Grittavious Butler political game LeBron James
yeah, that sounds like it'd be pretty funny.
is that on youtube? which channel?
where can i go to see Rubin getting dunked on?
because there's no way you can be referring to this channel. What we see on this channel is Sam Cedar making a bunch of videos every single day about Dave Rubin... Literally any time Dave Rubin speaks on a public forum or even on Twitter, same Cedar makes a f****** video about it.
And then all those videos consist of are normally Seder watching few seconds of rubins own content, then saying " pause it. err, uh...uhrm.. Frankly, that's absurd."
rinse, repeat.
Lostin Thegarden secular talk. Nuff said
josh knix oh yeah you don't have to tell me about secular talk buddy. I love Kyle. and he can dunk on people with the best of them, the difference between he and Sam is that whenever Kyle dunks on someone... it actually feels earned. ya know?
like when Kyle is condescending and smug towards people like Dave rubin.. it actually makes sense. it feels right. because he deserves to be... cause he is actually smarter than Rubin is. and more honest.
whereas sam Seder calling Dave Rubin dishonest and stupid... and making videos mocking him and anyway... It just Falls flat every time, because it's not earned... at all. seder is just as ignorant and dishonest as Dave Rubin is.. maybe even moreso. seder has a terrible stance on literally every issue too. so he has no room to mock ANYONE.
The only thing worse and more cringey than smugness is smugness that is totally unearned.
@@trentonmcclintock7836 wtf are you even talking about?
Which "issue" (s) does Sam have a terrible stance on, and why do you think it's terrible?
Dave "I not gonna debate people that threatens my cash flow" Rubin
My brain is still in recovery from all those high-level ideas from Rave Dubin's show.
u n me both
Ok look...he is an ideas guy!
Dan : Particularly because these ‘ideas’ are so
utterly pathetic that he has to perform mental
gymnastics from his happily-monied-hypothalamus
to his highly overwrought cerebellum!
Dan you and the guy above you are so creative and edgy and unique
Gotta love those stupid ass racist ideas floating around on that dumb ass show. It's such a bad show you start to not pay attention to the idiots talking and start wondering what chairs he purchased or if rube davin ever actually uses that basketball back there... You wouldn't wonder if it was a good show but hey... It happens. Kind of like that show walking dead. It's such a bad show that you wonder if the male characters have crusty balls from all of the not taking showers for days moments...
"They said I'm not an honest actor because I changed all of my political opinions at the age of 40 so I won't debate them" No Dave, it's because we all know that inside your head there is nothing more than a vacuous husk that makes you question the insignificance of reality.
Dave rubin is a hack...
He like to criticize the left by his own words,
"if you don't evolve the day they evolve, you're a bigot"
Meanwhile when it was pointed out to him that he has reversed and or flipped his stance on almost every single position he held very shortly ago this was his response...
"my feelings have changed as time has gone on...people evolve, it's called being human. But some would rather attack."
it seems that the real rule is if you don't evolve (sell out) when Dave Rubin does, you're a regressive leftist.
Joke is on you. You sound clueless.
you spend your time bashing the regressive left, but you wont debate them on your show
You don't understand... he's interested in ideas, not getting dunked on in a debate
Strawmen are easier to beat though. Maybe if Sam starts dressing up like a scarecrow he might be able to trick Rubin into a debate.
Here's a guy who calls Sam "dishonest" yet shows up on Alex Jones Show and retweets "Pizzagate" Cernovich and Paul Joseph Watson. "Dishonest" doesn't even begin to describe those scumbags.
I'm fully convinced that the only way Dave will talk to Sam is if he is tricked into doing it. Same goes for Steven Clam Crowder
@Jojoboi oil Yeah so they can avoid getting into a debate Sam 😂
@@jeffpro8 He's gonna find em in them streets
Maybe Dave will do an interview with “Tam Cheder”
Sam should debate Bill Burr
Sam should get the make-up people for Sacha Baron Cohen to give him a new look and then have someone send the letter to butter them up.
Dave Rubin can't possibly get any worse.
Dave Rubin - "hold my beer"
"hold my ideas"
@@thomasmackelly7685 More like "Hand me your ideas, cause I don't have any of my own".
laughs as fox news is triggered.
Ben called him an evil sinner to his face, but he cares about being maligned by guests?
It's always projection with the right
I gotta say, you are subscribed to people I would never imagine you being subscribed to, like AIU and No Bullshit. Are you there to troll them, or...... ?
Bingo
FYI you're still a bootlicker
@@vacantandstainedd cool story bro
@@sprybug well AIU is a liberal but I disagree with no BS on most things, I'm subscribed to TH-camrs I disagree with on a lot of things too
"I'm only interested in ideas"... What about the idea of stepping outside of your echo chamber?... Seems like an interesting idea!
arbi babakhanians lol
When has the left ever stepped out from their echo chamber? I live in Europe. Our webs just echo whatever is in W. Post, CNN, MSNBC - then UK Guardian- and this goes further. Same articles just translated. Usually about, for example, how amazing AOC is.
@@Pipervojta I don't deny the fact that there are echo chambers on the left as well. Also you only mentioned the corporate media and interestingly excluded the most insane corporate echo chamber, which is on the right: Fox News.
But Fox news stands kind of alone. Is highly overpowered by all the media from the left. Also there is no respectable (there wasn´t before the youtube stars) conservative media house. Since Fox News is just tabloid, which I don´t like. And the same thing is in Eastern Europe - it is either left media or right-wing tabloids. Thanks god for youtube. And thanks god for people like Rubin. I don´t mind that his hosts are mostly conservative cos any other media that I turn on - it is just the left liberals speaking.
Piper P you realize all these so-called “liberal media” outlets are basically just permanent war propaganda right? With the possible exception of the Guardian.
Sir Rubin ran away
Bravely ran away away!
When the question reared its ugly head
He bravely turned his tail and fled
Sir Rubin turned his tail about
And gallantly he chickened out
Swiftly taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat
Bravest of the brave, Sir Rubin!
On second thoughts, let's not go on oppositional media, t'is a silly place.
Apparently Ben Shapiro delegitimizing his marriage to his face isn't an insult.
Jared Dowty I mean, sin and God is a construct created by humans to try and understand the relativity of the universe and humanity’s purpose in it, which is nothing at all. You Christians are real weird with this.
Lefties are real weird with xtians being jerks, yes. Very weird about that. Most of the country is xtian, most seem able to keep stuff like that to themselves, as they should. They don't, well those are their sincerely held beliefs... mine and others are that such people are not friends, and are in fact unworthy of your friendship when theirs is so conditional.
Also, right wingers are weird, they think it matters if you dont say merry Christmas or if you do say assault rifle. Weirdly, easily triggered, while having the idiotic audacity to suggest others just take xtian insult on the chin.
@Jared Dowty and its an opinion that dave rubin is a dumbass. Tho not so much an opinion and more an observable truth.
@Jared Dowty the real problem is when Cheistian opinions manifest themselves into legislation that infringes upon my freedom and liberties
I would love to see Sam destroy Dave, as soon as Crowder falls in line.
The Crowder Horcrux gas been dealt with. It's only a matter of time
Rubin so shook he can’t even deflect properly lol
As much as I wanna see you on his show, I would literally pay money to see Natalie debate him
Ooooh god yes.
Admittedly Contra would be far too kind, but that’d be amazing.
Contra is insaaaane brilliant but I’ve never been super impressed with her unscripted work
@@Dinini she is not so great at improvisational debate .
. She cool tho.
Same! I only found her channel a few weeks ago, but I'm already obsessed. She's my new hero
I wish Sam would show up to one of Dubin's speaking tours and Crowder's change my mind segments.
Crowder just like Shapiro are too busy "DESTROYING" 18 year old college students.
This seems to be the best Conservatives and Republicans have in targeting the younger generation and colleges.
It about as pathetic as the Religious Right's 'good news clubs' targeting kids in public schools.
The fanboy mob there will probably kill Sam after he exposes him-
Ignacio Torres well, they claim to believe in the non-aggression principal, so they’d at least have to wait until Sam murders Rubin in broad daylight to attack him in response.
@@AdmiralBison they are there to counter the left wing indoctrination from the faculty.
Wes Heiser no, it’s a weak attempt by conservatives as they know academia in regards to critical thinking, Science and secularism is more liberal and advancement is the anti-thesis of conservatism.
That’s why emotional babies like Shapiro get owned by real journalists (even conservative ones) on BBC and Steve Crowder is a one trick pony who is too afraid to debate grown up liberals, instead arguing with 18 year old college kids.
Actually; many conservative pundits have chickened out in doing debates at past Politicon because they know they lack substance and the conservative arguments they would champion would be eviscerated under scrutiny.
You think Dave, or some staff intern, has to watch these Dave Rubin majority report videos?
At this point it'd be kind of irresponsible for him not to be aware of what his more prominent critics are saying about him.
Oh I definitely believe Rubin, Shapiro, Owens all these other bought off talkings heads and their staff are checking Progressive channels and videos.
They can do things like misquote, quote mine, pretend to be victims, evade debates, and all manner of con games.
The money they make must be good, but I couldn't look myself in the mirror if I was them.
Duane Locsin don't project the lefts disingenuous argument tactics on the right.
they avoid debate 100%, but that misquoting strategy is soooo much projection
Mike Brouwer Imagine thinking it’s the left playing self projection. That’s like advanced level delusional lol.
He's only interested in ideas. You have no idea how great his ideas are. They're so great, he has ideas about ideas. It's that meta. You only want to lie about his ideas Sam, that's all. You just want to suppress his right to have ideas by having a debate with him.
If Sam does ever get to debate Rubin, we can have a drinking game.
Take a shot whenever Sam says "The idea...that" and finish the drink if Rubin says "I'm interested in ideas."
@@HarryS77 Fuck no, I don't want to die, just get drunk.
The question is what happened to the caller? Is he still on hold? You guys just gonna cut him off like that😳
His perfect segway into their already planned segment was too good to pass up.
Congratulations to that guy who put those questions to Rubin. Takes some courage.
The Koch brothers have laid down an edict that Rubin shall not debate Sam Sedar. It's a Koch commandment
Rubin is such a Koch head
I love the extensive lead-up to, "Why won't you debate Sam Seder?" That made it so much better lol
Dave Rubin: "I think it's pretty obvious if you watch what I did up here, like I don't attack people personally."
Also Dave Rubin, 10 seconds earlier: "Sam Seder is a dishonest player and lied about me repeatedly."
It's not an "attack"...it's an honest assessment of Sam and Co. He was asked a question directly about Sam...he gave his opinion...next topic please. Unlike Sam here who obsesses on Rubin each and every week it seems with slanderous/insulting videos about Rubin.
@@twoshedsjohnson8540 Alright, let's bring some empiricism up in this bitch. As I cannot prove a negative, you're gonna have to find some instance where Sam slandered Dave.
Note however that there's a huge distinction between insulting someone and slander that you conveniently ignore: calling a liar a liar can be regarded as an insult, even though it's true, it is only slander when the accusation is unfounded.
"I just wanna talk about ideas, man, and I don't care if these ideas hurt your feelings. But these guys? Their ideas hurt my feelings, so they're not allowed to come talk about ideas with me."
04:45 “There’s no win in it for me.”
Sums it up nicely
Seeing ContraPoints on Rubin would be the most entertaining thing in recent years
That sure was a lot of words to say, "I'm still afraid of Sam Seder."
Dave Rubin is talking about "Honesty"? What the world has come to!
Sam should complain that Clint Eastwood, Kid Rock, Hank Williams Jr. and Scott Baio and Sean Hannity won't come on MR.
Reading: "What about the points they've been making on the Mahrmmrhr rhmmm... Look I'm here to talk about ideas"
Wait, wasn't there a caller at the beginning...?
I think this show is fake and scripted. I know it's a clip from a longer episode but yeah I thought that was weird too.
They just called to ask about this clip and they had it cued up and went into it...
9:18 OHHHH, you can see it in his face how much that hurt!
"he's a progressive, he's an old school liberal"
it's either one or the other, ya bozo!
Dave: I'm here to talk about ideas!
Lots of people: Talk with Sam about ideas?
Dave: What's in it for me, though?
I’m listener Evan, thanks for the shoutout Sam! Dave is too afraid to engage in the battle of ideas.
I live for these dubin clips
Someone should press him further and make him say what "lies" has Sam Seder made about him?
Cuz I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be able to come up with an good answer!
He's inviting a bunch of celebrities on his show 😂😂😂. Guess he thinks he's Jimmy Kimmel. Why not invite Ellen DeGeneres and the ladies at The View too?
Meghan McCain and dave Rubin 😂
Sam, maybe you remind him too much of the space he used to also occupy. You gotta admit that's scary.
His corporate overlords won't let him have any lefties on.
Joseph S. Exactly they don’t want want anyone to debate him that would bring up his past and make him look dumb even to his audience
I like how Rubin goes on a rant on regressive leftness when that wasn't even the guy's point lol
He's got one setting
"Sam Seder is a dishonest player, also I don't like to attack people personally."
The reason Rubin listed mostly actors as liberals he wants to debate is because Dave, like all conservative grifters, wanted to be a movie star, but sadly he was rejected into recovery mode.
Dave Rubin, the king of "The Marketplace of Feelz." Milo was on his show trashing almost everyone and he never jumped on and corrected him.
It's funny to me that so much of the right has built their entire platform around "the left is afraid to debate" and yet so many on the right are genuinely afraid, legit scared, to debate or talk to Sam. Sam isn't intimidating or scary, he's just a normal guy. So for people to be so afraid to even talk to him is super hilarious.
Rave Dubin is that type of coward that would feel super proud of himself with a pat on the back for winning an argument with a toddler.
Rubin's Pretend It's Personal tour should come with a health warning: Coch Money will rot your brain.
that guy did an excellent job!! major props to him for standing up to dave and keep pressing him and not getting nervous.
Here's an IDEA: drink whenever Rubin says "IDEAS."
Annika I died in 7 seconds THANKS A LOT
Natalie from ContraPoints 🙌
She's my new hero, even though i just found her channel this month
IDW stands for I Don't Want criticism.
It sounds like Dave Rubin should sit down and have a discussion with you to correct the record, but he'd probably have to block himself on twitter.
The bottom line is, Dave is a Bottom!
Dave has some high-level ideas about Sam, you have to acknowledge that, his ideas are traveling space with nearly the speed of light shooting down anti-idea UFOs
Dave Rubin talking with Sam or Kyle is as likely as Steven Crowder facing Potholer54.
Am I the only one who kind of hopes Dave never accepts the debate just so keeps getting dunked on for it?
The idea of Rubin calling someone else dishonest... What a rube!
"No win for me"
Rubin, for the first time in many years has said something truthful.
A big win in the battle of ideas.
Wait so, Dave won't talk to anyone who attacks him personally, but he's asking on people who he attacks personally?
Isn't refusing to attend your gay wedding because you don't believe in gay weddings, a personal attack? Yet he has an inordinate amount of good will towards Ben Shapiro.
Disingenuous grifter.
Lex772 They’re just called weddings now.
@@richardvinsen2385 I'm wording it the way Shapiro probably would.
Hey lets give Dave a break. That could be one of his last public appearances. Don’t think he can handle too many public challenges from actual thinking people.
OK on a totally unrelated observation but it's funny to me.
Notice Dave Rubin is drinking smart water....Mmm LOL
All that aside. Dave is such a Big big disappointment, He's totally L7
Humble request, please follow every mention of Dave Rubin as a "classical liberal" with a laugh track. Thank you.
I had no idea that Dave "those guys at the lincoln project can't maintain an erection" Rubin didnt personally insult people. It's good of him to let us know that
that feel when you tag Amy Schumer and Mark Ruffalo to debate politics but you never debate politics
Holy shit you went on jesse lees show?! Gonna check that out, since I saw Davids 'interview' there. Also people should see Davids response to this.
"If you're gonna attack me personally..." Oh....You mean like...not being so politically correct? 🤣
(Also, my unstated thirsty comment about the college student should be added to the record.)
Not inviting a single serious, dyed-in-the-wool leftist on his show -- one who is willing to champion instead of shit on leftist ideas -- is a sign that David is at least self-aware of how intellectually vacuous he is. He appears to know that it would irreparably damage his superficial brand, and likely end his career faster than reappearing on Joe Rogan's show.
Pot attacks kettle! "That kettle is black"
Area code 619 *exists*
Me: BOOYAKA BOOYAKA!
This kid is a PERFECT example of modern politics and gives me hope for humanity. He liked Rubin when he was in high school, and then he grew up. Yep. This is happening all over the place. The grift can only last so long when a kid's mind opens up a little bit to other perspectives.
Dave Rubin unmasks in this debate.
Doth, thou kettle... Call the pot black?
Rave Dubin
The right: We shouldn't keep out people whose ideas make us uncomfortable. But, I can no platform people I consider abrasive. That's my right.
The left: We no platform Milo Y because he gives out personal details about college students on stage that puts their lives at risk.
The right: Stop being so sensitive. You should give everyone a platform.
Hypocrisy at its best.
tl;dr I've gone from self-ascribed left slanted liberal to anarcho-syndacalist (and pretty agnostic on what forms of socialism/communism might be inbetween now and then in the far future) mostly because when I liked Dave I started noticing his dishonest right leaning guests and their misrepresentation of my beliefs and even my country's leanings, which are more 'right' leaning than my own but still considerably more left than the US.
I was glad when I found Rubin's Report, because politics seemed evermore toxic, especially compared to my own country (which is still not without drama of course) and it felt great to have a place where I could see two people learn more about one another without screaming over a microphone.
Between my own country being probably significantly more socially liberal and a lack of guests that had similar views to my country because that was 'too far left' already, as described by some of Dave's guests, and finding his talks with Lauren Southern mentioning things about my country that were blatant lies at worst and convenient half-truths at best, I started to question his selection of guests more and more, and I felt 'my side', left slanted liberal, which was also Rubin's side, as I believed, wasn't represented at all, and sometimes even misrepresented without any fact checking.
When I started looking into these claims on my own, doubting what I had been taught and read up on before even on topics I am exposed to the academic with directly, and after a while I started to severely doubt his guests honesty, and in turn his own.
However, I've come to the conclusion that he's more likely naive than actually malicious. That doesn't make him any less wrong, of course. He has no idea what leftism is, let alone liberalism. There's tons of social liberal countries that do the things he calls regressive and have been fine, socially, but not in terms of economic disparity. And even in terms of the latter: Economies are prospering massively, it's just falling into the hands of increasingly less people, in the low double digits. Sure, it's less bad than the US, but poverty is distributed to other countries still, so our middle class bracket can be expanded.
This isn't a long term solution, and why Dave refuses to put more progressive people, let alone *actual* lefties or far lefties on, is beyond me, how he can claim someone still adhering to liberalist values of capitalism as 'regressive/far left' is just plain political ignorance that a host of an exclusively political show can't be permitted to have without being called out for it.
As if this guy would ever debate Rachel Maddow lol
He has zero credibility
dave rubin heard people calling him a dishonest player and he was like thats good.. really good.. ill have to use that one day
Disappointing that Christakis, who I think was completely correct in that Yale Halloween debacle, went on Rubin Report. But this is part of a larger strategy. Take all things that one might regard as "left", conflate them, and then make a pan-argument against any argument that you designate as from the left. A "logical" construction, for example, is: we should not empower labor to negotiate for better wages because some little shits at Yale were freaked out about Halloween costumes. That's the racket.
I enjoy that Rave Dubin can't block lefties in real life.
You're obsessed with Dave Rubin
. Gotta get those views
“If you want it, you can get it” lol@Matt 😂🤣😂🤣
"iDeAs."
Dave Rubin
Dave Rubin doesn't want to face off with someone that has different thoughts than his. His brain would fracture when he tries to counter those ideas.
The problem is Seder doesn't want to talk *with* Rubin, he wants to talk *at* Rubin.
Dave Rubin made a massive mistake in saying Sam Seder and David Pakman have lied about him, because now he's gonna have to back up those assertions.
I bet he sees "debate sam" in his alphabet soup
The dude who asked the question nailed it. Was very clear and phrased it well then followed it up brilliantly.
I love you name and pic. Hey Arnold was a rad fucking show
that "ok" part needs to be memed, it's so meme potentially. XDDDD
I like how Dave completely disregarded the well crafted question of that guy, he specifically went for Dave's tagline "Diversity of ideas instead of diversity of identity", yet Dave called him extreme for wanting more diversity of ideas and that how the show is now is good because he has people that IDENTIFY as left wing, so they don't need to actually talk about their left wing ideas.
To think I used to watch his content.
Why does Seder talk about Dave Rubin so often? If it weren’t for Seder bringing him up all the time I think most people would have no idea that Dave Rubin even exists.
Dave Rubin calls Sam dishonest? Projection, yeronner.
And he cares about as much about ideas as he does about debating Sam on Sam's show.
how exactly contrapoints is dishonest ? seriously she is like the sweetest and only polite and logical person on youtube .
The E-Boy college student that destroyed Dave Rubin is my new icon
The words you are looking for Sam are these: Dave Rubin is disingenuous. He acts like he wants open dialogue but he doesn't, he acts like he is liberal but he isn't
Dave Rubin has RULES and PRINCIPLES?