@Dark Ramen that got me thinking what Kryptonians did on Krypton when it came to food and water, did they milk a cowanoid(creature/alien that has a very close resemblance to a cow), and we’re there some sort of alien animals that they ate
Nope All fanboy wanks That's all. Thot bot doesn't have any of those Infinite blah blah blah you talk of. He didn't lift the multiverse Rather a simple projection of a limbo. He only stated that I can adapt (that doesn't mean infinite adaptation) . He was in the monitor realm That doesn't mean he's bigger than the multiverse. And 4th wall breaking like Deadpool Isn't plot manipulation Heat of ten billion suns damaged him. Cas is a multiversal at best Nothing more.
*The same universe that a man who's parents were murdered and decides it is reasonable to beat up people in the middle of the night dressed like a bat* God I love this show
You forgot beating up the mentally ill as a mean to make himself feel better about his miserable existence and recruiting small children off the streets is a brilliant strategy.
not exactly the monitor realm lies beyond the dc multiverse but that doesn't mean, the monitors (the creatures living in it) are omnipotent, they were killed on a few occasions .monitors created THOT BOT SUPERMAN AKA COSMIC ARMOR superman so he can be killed..the monitor realm is 12th dimensional anyone above that would whoop him..not a big deal really unless you believe those fake rumors running around on the internet..
No Cosmic Armour Superman can be classified as the Eraser that the Writer uses against the characters that he creates, as Grant did when he got C.A.S. to kill Mandrakke, but sadly he only fell off the Comic and ended up outside of the Monitor Sphere itself, still alive mind you so he later comes back more powerful but that's another story.
Cosmic Armor Superman is a living embodiment of the power and influence of Superman. How fitting is it that the DC Multiverse's ultimate weapon of defense is based on the superhero that started it all?
The concept behind Cosmic Armor Superman is amazing. It’s a difficult to read but once you wrap your head around it it bends your mind in ways that makes you laugh. Now this is really cool. In limbo lies a book that contains one story, the story of everything that has ever happened in all the universes. So although there is only one story all stories are in this story. When this story began, there was a flaw on the page. Now being this story is just that, a story, there are going to be inconsistencies, there are going to be things within the story that don’t jive, there are going to be flaws. So what the monitors did was they constructed Cosmic Armor Superman and put this flaw inside him. So ultimately what Cosmic Armor Superman is is a device to combat this flaw. He is a hero to the villain flaw. So whenever something in story doesn’t make sense, there is Cosmic Armor Superman to save the day and fix the flaw in the universe. How cool is that, on a meta story level, kind of amazing. Grant Morrison rocks.
@@wlane2384 this is in Grant Morrison’s Final Crisis. It’s a mini plot containing 2(I think) issues called Superman Beyond. It is a really dense read. I had to read each page a few times before I really understood what was going on. But it is really worth it. I think it is some of Morrison’s best work. Right up there if not better than his All-Star Superman. If you like Superman, another great Superman book that’s highly underappreciated, due to it not being well known, all those that read it love it, is Tom King’s Superman: Up in the Sky. I loved this book. Again it’s not a long read, but is well worth the read.
One cool thing about the Monitors is they all start off identical. They're drawn that way for a while, they all speak the same and have similar personalities and actions. As the story progresses they start to become 'infected' by 'story' and begin to slowly look different, act different and have their own personalities.
Not gonna lie, haven’t finished the video yet but this is one of the best videos I’ve ever seen on TH-cam. Purely amazing,awesome explanation and sweet concept thanks rob (think that’s you’re name idk pretty sure you say robcore but correct me I’m wrong cause I think I am)
So effectively this Superman is living *plot armor* made from the essences of Superman & Ultraman combined by the monitors? I think the explanation in this video was awesome, even if I've got all the facts wrong in my mind I *feel* like I understand it all clearly. That's all anyone ever needs. :P
LKVideos I know but people keeps saying BS that alien X will beat him absolute shit they said they can scan him and they get plot manipulation powers as well. Not true that’s his own power. Superman was lives around by the fans that’s how he gained that power, you have to be loved that much to gain the plot manipulation
In this story: These cosmic level creatures that exist above concepts of space and time come to Superman for Help Superman briefly holds a book that is described as having infinite pages, and being bigger than multiverses His energy is fused with Ultraman's so the duality can power the Thought Robot. Which exists above universes, space, time, etc. Superman holds the bleed in his mouth which the monitors themselves say only they can do Aaaaaaaand later ins Final Crisis Superman vibrates his voice and obliterates Darkseids true form. Just in case anyone was interested in knowing how powerful Grant writes superman
Dropped a like, left a comment, you and the team are absolute legends Rob thanks for giving people like me who don't have a comic store near them something to look forward to every week! #LETSGOCHAMP #RobCorp
Zatharos Fusions shouldn't count because that's not truly Goku's power. Same goes for Thought Robot. I see that as help, therefore don't acknowledge it, but if you do then...whatever
SupremeEspio well I mean if you want to talk about about true power with no “assistance” then, we can settle on the next best thing with Gold Superman 1 Million then.
Kanna Kamui that and dbs was a horrible story with garbage animation inconsistencies all over the place. Fuck the fight between goku and vegeta for the first time had better animation then all of dbs...
Sadly, I’ve probably watched this video 10 times over the years, and I still watch it every time it’s recommended for me. I love it!… even though Rob sounds so frustrated while doing CAS. lol
I remember the thought robot appeared more than in just the Superman beyond miniseries. Can’t remember exactly where but I remember a second appearance after the death and return of Superman...could be wrong but I distinctly remember a dc comic stating the need for the thought robot- don’t know if he appeared though
I disagree that he's the most powerful Superman. In the 1940s Superman participated in a storyline on the radio broadcast called "Clan of the Fiery Cross". In it, Superman infiltrates the KKK using actual code words and arguing against parables they told. What makes that version of Supes the most powerful ever is that he didn't just defeat one chapter of the Klan in a fictional world. By exposing their secrets to a national audience, unveiling their mysticism as baloney, and arguing against them he actually dealt a fatal blow to the actual Klan in the real world. It devastated recruitment and coordination between them in an organization that was so tied to secret knowledge, codes, and anonymity. It outed thousands of Klansmen by revealing who would have said certain things. He played a non-trivial role in defeating a super villain society on the other side of the 4th wall. Very few fictional characters can defeat people in the real world but Superman is apparently an exception.
Cosmic Superman is the protector of STORIES. ALL STORIES. DC, Marvel, all myths, all anime, etcetera, etcetera. All of it, told and untold. It means he can do anything conceivable and not conceived yet. Power incarnate doesn't even begin to describe him.
@Jordan Fuifui Still only exists in DC and everything tied to DC tho. Marvel (or Image, or whatever different conpany) have nothing to do with DC's monitor realms
@@uncledruggie669 If you read the story and didn't understand Grant Morrison used the Monitors and Overmonitors as the metaphor for writers, artists, and editors, the Bleed as the medium of writing/drawing and Cosmic Superman as the embodiment of all stories that cannot be defeated because of the concept of "to be continued", then that's why you don't get it.
@@ServantRules CAS still isn't the protector of "ALL" stories. Doesn't matter what Grant Morrison used the writers for. CAS ONLY exists within the DC universe. He can be defeated. Characters scale higher than him. He doesn't exist anywhere outside the DC universe.
Thanks Rob, I am actually surprised that I had never heard of this version of Superman. Although I have to say now that I am happy that I didn't, I don't like the idea nor the idea of superman being a machine. Prime 1 M! remains my favorite version. Thanks as always!!
I'd imagine CAS and Goku's fight going something similar to Goku vs Beerus when they first met. *Goku charges Superman* *Superman flicks his finger* *99.99% of the Dragon Ball multiverse is decimated in an instant* *Superman goes back to DC universe bored af*
Super gt goku yes i mean this dude is angle or zeno or beyond level Sdh and xeno version..that trickly do..since there is someone who try to kill zeno? The same guy who literly stronger then anyone in db super
Did you watch the video this isn't superman he is basically "fused" with ultraman and a HUGH power boost. This isn't only superman that's like saying lets have goku and zeno fuse and then give that fusion a massive power boost.
@@yorgfigure6164 clearly u didn't watch the video superman took over the thought robot so its only superman's conscious controlling the robot, but in mind its 2 superman fused together, so basically its still superman cause hes the one in control. Thats why if you've read the comics u would see that mandrak calls him superman instead of thought robot
Vel Tal But Cosmic armour Superman buried himself and wrote to be continued on his tombstone, so I think he's still opened to Superman piloting him again
Soooo Cosmic Armour/Thought Robot Superman is a fusion between matter&anti-meta supermans, which is a conceptual beeing made to never lose&"save the day"? Does that mean that the Presence is below the over monitors, Mandrak&Cosmic Armour Superman? Also what would be the equivalent to Marvel's The One Above All in DC then?
The Presence cosmic armour superman is out Side of fiction and presence is inside of dc fiction.and mandrakk was made by over monitor to eat the dc story and cosmic armour superman beats him and throw back to over monitor.mandrakk can’t be killed he come back to life again to eat the story. The monitor can kills toaa and presence with ease because he was outside of fiction Over monitor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everything Mandrakk=cosmic armour superman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toaa presence living tribunal spectre Lucifer and Michael
I'm surprised the how often people Overlook the whole to be continued Bit. Mandrakk stated that the tombstone was Cosmic armor Superman's her Superman's or something like that and ask Superman what he wanted written on it. During the battle Cosmic armor Superman realized he was inside of a self-assembling hyper story that was trying its best to kill him. Knowing that at the end of the story he was supposed to die regardless of him being Victorious over the threat he created the ultimate loophole. By stating to be continued even if the story that was trying to kill him was brought to a end supposedly at the end of the current DC Multiverse he would be able to resurrect not just himself but the entire DC Multiverse at the start of the next story his to be continued rather than the end or anything that could be considered final
I bet cosmic armor superman is faster than flash. lol I've said this before superman is a character that can practically do anything IF push. these comic book writers are showing this in all the things superman has done and continue to do its is like what would superman do next. After all he is the grandaddy of all super hero
Flash or the speed force is a 3 spatial 1 time dimensional existence surrounding the current multiverse. Ca Superman is above that dimensional bottleneck. So was Darkseid when he was falling through the higher dimensional barriers casting a shadow over the multiverse. There's a map on this. They can destroy the speed force just like mr myxplikt can as he is of 5th dimensional race of beings. I honestly think either you're trolling or don't understand what CA Superman represents.
@Grim Reaper "the ability to adapt to whatever he needs to be" so... CAS is basically like the protege, who has already copied the power of the beyonder and the living tribunal, additionally he can edit reality as he sees fit and it he is fully aware of the fourth wall... he can literally feel the reader's breath and heartbeat through the pages of the comic book.
@Grim Reaper protge kicked living tribunal's ass so hard that the comic book writers themselves made a celestial that can defeat the protege... and superman can without any doubt beat the living crap out of protege. Also how can you say that the living tribunal is in a higher plane of existance than CAS, if CAS is aware of the fourth wall while the living tribunal isn't?
The Truth Michael is weak as he can only shape matter, really depends where the fight is, lucifier would get destroyed in the monitor sphere, Beyonder was already covered in a separate video (I think)
Superman One Million is actually the name of Kal Kent, Superman's descendant from the 853rd century who's also a member of Justice Legion A. This fits in with the informal naming conventions of the other JLA members of that era (Batman One Million, Wonder Woman One Million, Aquaman One Million, Starman One Million, Hourman One Million, and Flash One Million aka John Fox). The golden, original Superman who spent 15,000 years inside the sun after his return to Earth in the 700th century and who wields the last Green Lantern power ring is Superman Prime. Because he's the "prime" or first Superman--not to be confused with Superman-Prime, the adult version of Superboy-Prime from the pre-Crisis Earth-Prime. Note that Superman One Million would still be "beyond Omega Level" since he has all of the powers of the original Superman plus 10 other superpowers introduced to the Superman bloodline when one of his ancestors married the queen of the 5th dimension. On top of that, when Superman Prime returned to Earth's solar system in the 700th century, he agreed to bestow a power boost to whichever of his descendants was the active Superman of the era as long as they agreed to remain the protector of Earth. This combination of abilities allowed Superman 1M to literally punch through time from the 20th century back to the year 85,271.
Kal Kent is the Superman of DC One Million, Kal EL is the Superman Prime of DC One Million, he is never referred to as Superman One Million he is referred to as *SUPERMAN PRIME* One Million by fans.
Nate River An advanced Intellect, wells of financial resources, mastered every martial art, expert in every field of science, and being one of the best strategist in his universe. People who think Batman prevails solely due to plot armor and favorism don't know much about the character and underestimate what someone with his money, knowledge, and skill could be capable of.
Shigeo Kageyama There is nothing that Batman's money, skill, or knowledge could do against any of the heavy-hitters that actually want to hurt him. The "Because he's Batman" meme was born out of this. I don't underestimate Batman's skill, or money, or knowledge. I'm just not gonna act like any of these things put him in the same breath as Flash, WW, Superman, Martian Manhunter etc.. Imagine if all of them were aliens who had never been to earth. Can you honestly say with a straight face that ANY of them would be like "Oh shit, we better not cause trouble there. There's a smart guy with money and knows martial arts!"? Nobody can say 'yes' with a straight face and still try to defend Batman as "human." There's an actual movie of Darkseid taking hits from Superman and WW AT THE SAME TIME, and Darkseid barely budges. Then Batman comes with a little rocket in his belt that somehow does more than those 2. When Batman stays in his own comics, he's one of my favorites. When Batman shares panels with people he has no business being around, it just becomes absurd. It's either plot armour or CIS.
Nate River Batman has held his own and prevailed against stronger opponents before. The time he defeated some of the strongest justice league members with the justice buster is a great example of this
Shigeo Kageyama The Justice Buster is an example of PIS. It's literally "let's not go all out on him." Batman stands on his own or prevails ONLY if these beings hold back on him. That's like letting a toddler punch you in the face over and over and then actually believing he could beat your ass if he eventually draws blood. The toddler isn't special, you're letting the toddler hit you. It would take less than 1% of Supermans max to destroy everything Batman is, was, and ever will be. This is a fact. But again, Batman will somehow pull something random out of his ass "because he's Batman." I don't care how smart he is, or how much prep he has, there are some beings who would erase Batman from existence. But because he's popular, he will reach into his ass, and suddenly be able to follow the movements of Flash, or go toe-to-toe with Superman. I swear, people argue that Superman is boring because he's too op, but bring up Batman who can apparently beat everyone in the universe despite just being a rich genius. Okay.
"What Cosmic Armor Superman's power are, well they're basically everything." "What Cosmic Armor Superman really is, is a plot device" "One of his abilities is the ability to adapt to whatever he needs to be in order to defeat whatever threat his facing" "Literally, there is nothing or no one that will be able to defeat Cosmic Armor Superman"
Michael Gordon I guess it would depend on the writer. Some versions of Superman aren't anywhere near Solar System levels...his average showings are in that range actually. You have versions that are planetary at best, then you have extreme versions that are galaxy - universal. It all depends on the writer, the story, and what version of Superman you choose.
Michael Gordon yes he is. That's why Darkseid wants him. With supes intellect and AND OP powers, he'd wreck anyone without warping abilities. Or, he'd just create his army of normal street thugs and give them super powers( he's able to do this if he sundips for long enough, around a say would do). However, anyone who can warp reality could essentially kill him with hi difficulty
Dom c Pretty much. But even when you pick one mainline Superman, the interpretation of his powerlevel and skill sets are WILDLY different. It's kinda hard to determine where exactly he stands because of this and also why Superman Prime 1mil is actually not very easy to scale from the main continuity Supes. His high ends and low ends are quite as even with his average showings. That being said, he's anywhere from star level to galaxy when you take out the outlier low and high ends. I guess that'd put him at omega levels, but not beyond it...depends on where exactly does a beyond omega rank(i believe universal and beyond).
Justin Burton Well,tori bot is the creator of everything in dbz and the actuall omnipotent in the series.Omnipotence>everything so tori bot wins.Everyone else gets easily murdered.That includes Zen-oh as of now.There is also super shenron who can grand any wish.But there is a question.Could the super dragon balls work on someone who is outside of dbu and generaly out of existence???I think not but who knows.
Anastasia Ntemiri cosmic supermans power is to make up whatever power he needs to defeat his opponents. So he would become tori.bots creator and shit it out of existence.
"A THOUGHT-ROBOT CAPABLE OF ADAPTING INSTANTLY TO COUNTER ANY FUTURE THREAT. A SENTINEL SUIT DESIGNED FOR A SINGLE PURPOSE. TO PROTECT ALL EXISTENCE AGAINST THE ULTIMATE ENEMY." Everything you think of any powers, any possibilities, any ideas, any plot armors, any stories even before you write a character that will beat CAS, CAS already adapted and countered it INSTANTLY. You have bigger candy? Oh hell no CAS has twice bigger candy than you. You will call for an EDITOR to edit CAS story?? CAS already adapted and fired your EDITOR. The writer of CAS wanna change CAS powers? CAS already adapted and become a Writer on his story. You're thinking right now?? CAS already adapted to it so don't even think or have thoughts about countering CAS cuz he already adapted and countered it INSTANTLY.
Apostolos CAS adapted and countered One Punch Man story. CAS sent a little editor of himself in One Punch Man then slapped One’s face and with a little whisper “this is how you write a non boring character”. Little Editor CAS edited character manga One Punch Man and made Saitama to a boxer level. Saitama was so happy that he can go all out in a boxing match. Thanks to CAS. 👍
This isn't complicated. It's actually pretty simple: Comic books like to abuse this cheap tactic of making increasingly overpowered characters as an easy way to keep raising the stakes, and they don't care how stupid it sounds. First bad guy wants to blow up a building. The next wants to blow up the world. The next wants to blow up the universe. The next wants to blow up ALL THE UNIVERSES. The next wants to blow up REALITY ITSELF. The next wants to BLOW UP REALITY AND TIME AND EAT GOD. The next one wants to eat God's dad and also everything ever plus whatever else there is besides "everything". It's jus little kids shouting INFINITY PLUS ONE over and over.
@@ddd-sx7pw It's why I avoided comics until very recently. It's like, they're afraid readers won't care about a "low stakes" villain after Lord Wizro tried to have sex with every mailbox in the universe, but that's just sloppy storytelling. If someone on the street pointed a gun at you, you wouldn't say "BORING. He's not even gonna knock over a building."
@@903-v8u Remember in the Justice League movie when Superman punched Steppenwolf one time and completely shattered every bone in his body? And then you realize, hey wait, so Steppenwolf is actually way weaker than the past two villains Superman fought, and every other member of the Justice League is just fucking useless?
@@thegreatgeekdetective6925 That's why I never got into it. Even as a little kid I'd see snippets and think "Is this nothing but squatting and yelling?"
Writers get fired, the editors flip a coin and decide who wins? Yeah. =)) Inside of narrative it's gonna depend on the genre, entirely, because at that point, genre rules take over. While there's SOME room in film noir, indie comics and anime for the bad guys (and/or the "embodiment of all things rotten" as it were) to win out and win hugely, truth is, DC Comics is THE original traditional comic book company. So there will be a battle of Good Versus Evil--that's what they do. And the Good Guys will win--again, that's what they DO. The narrative then boils down to HOW that happens. It won't ever be a _Madoka Magica_ business where the main character/hero is screwed from the get-go and it's just a matter of who delivers the final defeat. Nope, in the DCU, goodness, if not mercy, will prevail. Always.
That is what happened in this story mandrakk was a plot manipulater dc stories were gonna end in final crisis that's why it's called final crisis but when they both fought superman won because the thought robot is based on literal concept of superman which you know superman saves the day. Superman's story was stronger and he won
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ComicsExplained maybe cosmic armor superman will help with Dr Manhattan..
ComicsExplained could you do sentry or ghost rider please? I want to understand if they're omega or beyond omega level
ComicsExplained martian manhunter next
ComicsExplained Could you do Insane genis vell please
ComicsExplained thanks rob
Every Anime Protagonist: "I have the BEST plot armor!"
Cosmic Armor Superman: "Hold my plot..."
Milkman Superman: hold my milk
@Dark Ramen that got me thinking what Kryptonians did on Krypton when it came to food and water, did they milk a cowanoid(creature/alien that has a very close resemblance to a cow), and we’re there some sort of alien animals that they ate
@@debashishratnam3139 I think so
Nope
All fanboy wanks
That's all.
Thot bot doesn't have any of those
Infinite blah blah blah you talk of.
He didn't lift the multiverse
Rather a simple projection of a limbo. He only stated that I can adapt (that doesn't mean infinite adaptation) .
He was in the monitor realm
That doesn't mean he's bigger than the multiverse.
And 4th wall breaking like Deadpool
Isn't plot manipulation
Heat of ten billion suns damaged him.
Cas is a multiversal at best
Nothing more.
Mazinger Zero: *laughs*
*The same universe that a man who's parents were murdered and decides it is reasonable to beat up people in the middle of the night dressed like a bat*
God I love this show
😂😂😂
You forgot beating up the mentally ill as a mean to make himself feel better about his miserable existence and recruiting small children off the streets is a brilliant strategy.
These comments are perfect description of batguy.
Fuck you
@@kylelundgren5133 how dare you discuss Batman in a negatively sarcastic manner! 😋
They really should have had the balls and called it Plot Armor Superman because that is literally what it was.
If i made the character, i would call it that
K
not exactly the monitor realm lies beyond the dc multiverse but that doesn't mean,
the
monitors (the creatures living in it) are omnipotent, they were killed on a few occasions .monitors created THOT BOT SUPERMAN AKA COSMIC ARMOR superman
so he can be killed..the monitor realm is 12th dimensional
anyone above that would whoop him..not a big deal really unless you believe those fake rumors running around on the internet..
LEGEND K.P what were they?
Because I’m currently in an argument about him.
Or two...
@@mrbrandtastic5473 edited
Isnt that called Author-level power?
Well mardrakk was a editor-level treat
So cosmic armor Superman should be too
Actually the author level power is The Writer
Nah
Author level power would be stripping all of CAS’s powers away
That’s Milkman Superman’s Power
No Cosmic Armour Superman can be classified as the Eraser that the Writer uses against the characters that he creates, as Grant did when he got C.A.S. to kill Mandrakke, but sadly he only fell off the Comic and ended up outside of the Monitor Sphere itself, still alive mind you so he later comes back more powerful but that's another story.
Cosmic Armor Superman is a living embodiment of the power and influence of Superman. How fitting is it that the DC Multiverse's ultimate weapon of defense is based on the superhero that started it all?
Nah he's the living embodiment of plot armour at it's best
Troll^
Theoren Maybee ^ butthurt
michael Ramos Troll
Chris Purolover butthurt
Because when your Lois Lane that's what you do. Lmao
Jared M you're*
😂😂😂
xD
The concept behind Cosmic Armor Superman is amazing. It’s a difficult to read but once you wrap your head around it it bends your mind in ways that makes you laugh. Now this is really cool. In limbo lies a book that contains one story, the story of everything that has ever happened in all the universes. So although there is only one story all stories are in this story. When this story began, there was a flaw on the page. Now being this story is just that, a story, there are going to be inconsistencies, there are going to be things within the story that don’t jive, there are going to be flaws. So what the monitors did was they constructed Cosmic Armor Superman and put this flaw inside him. So ultimately what Cosmic Armor Superman is is a device to combat this flaw. He is a hero to the villain flaw. So whenever something in story doesn’t make sense, there is Cosmic Armor Superman to save the day and fix the flaw in the universe. How cool is that, on a meta story level, kind of amazing. Grant Morrison rocks.
What book(s) is this story in?
@@wlane2384 this is in Grant Morrison’s Final Crisis. It’s a mini plot containing 2(I think) issues called Superman Beyond. It is a really dense read. I had to read each page a few times before I really understood what was going on. But it is really worth it. I think it is some of Morrison’s best work. Right up there if not better than his All-Star Superman.
If you like Superman, another great Superman book that’s highly underappreciated, due to it not being well known, all those that read it love it, is Tom King’s Superman: Up in the Sky. I loved this book. Again it’s not a long read, but is well worth the read.
One cool thing about the Monitors is they all start off identical. They're drawn that way for a while, they all speak the same and have similar personalities and actions. As the story progresses they start to become 'infected' by 'story' and begin to slowly look different, act different and have their own personalities.
Is there a god that can fix Mcdonalds ice cream machine tho🤔
New Zealand Ha! 💯 The force is strong with you!
Lmaooooo
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Nah not possible
Nope. Not even God-scourge of divine chaos. He is so strong he can destroy a hyperdimension. Shaggy cannot even exist near it.
Plot Armor is stronger
Marko Šurbatović - Šuki you won 😂
Sooooo she goes around recruiting Supermen from the multi-verse, but creates the most OP of them all.
Yea thats why I hate batman
PillsburyHomeboi no he's god
Darkseid plot armor strong too. He is now a baby haha. Unlike antimonitor, he is dead now
Cosmic Armor Superman is superior to strength, speed and durability and now has a lot of super powers and is unlimited and solos any universe he’s in.
emanuel navarrete agreed!
Not any Universe in every Omniverse as his powers only work in his base Omniverse but he is very strong.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki yeah, but there are some series where he can't do anything and others where he can just blink and destroy that universe
Not every, because I know plenty more characters as broken as him
Depends who writes the comic 🤣🤣
Do beyond omega lucifer Morningstar
Morningstar is more powerful than any character in the beyond omega
Caleb Mayfield is he really?
Random Ish He is the second most powerful DC being so I think he is lol
Oh dc one I thought you was talking about persona 1 and 2 villain they have the same name. So I was like uh for a second they don't do that here.
David Levy yes that be great
I love multi universe theories. I love the way marvel and DC both express it.
that jawline could kill the entire DBZ multiverse.
Harnessed through the power of Jay Leno :V
He'd make Beerus into a simple domestic house cat. lol
Nall Calmer nah duh it's fucking comesic armor superman let basic superman fight beerus
Frankly,DBZ is the only franchise that could probably match the JL powerhouses in some level.
Fortunate Anane honestly i hate pitting superheros against superheros.
Not gonna lie, haven’t finished the video yet but this is one of the best videos I’ve ever seen on TH-cam. Purely amazing,awesome explanation and sweet concept thanks rob (think that’s you’re name idk pretty sure you say robcore but correct me I’m wrong cause I think I am)
So effectively this Superman is living *plot armor* made from the essences of Superman & Ultraman combined by the monitors? I think the explanation in this video was awesome, even if I've got all the facts wrong in my mind I *feel* like I understand it all clearly. That's all anyone ever needs. :P
Really well put there
CAS is literaly a plot device. It can alter the plot until it wins .... I mean ....
LKVideos I know but people keeps saying BS that alien X will beat him absolute shit they said they can scan him and they get plot manipulation powers as well. Not true that’s his own power. Superman was lives around by the fans that’s how he gained that power, you have to be loved that much to gain the plot manipulation
Alien X can only manipulate thing in the 3D and CAS exists outside the 3D so Alien X beating CAS is just BS
So Superman and Ultraman fused into one being and that essence was given to the robot Cosmic Armor Superman to fuel him ??
We need him to take on Irma
Holy shit, you actually covered my request on this guy. I've been asking for months. Thanks Rob! :D
Pastel Assassin Fuck you
+hyku Who pissed in your cheerios?
coming up on infra-red the same guy who wanks CAS, you
Accidental238 Supertard^^
coming up on infra-red actually, hmm.. I'm sorry, but I'm the one who pissed in his cheerios.
I wonder if this is who Doctor Manhattan sees smiling in Doomsday Clock.
Manhattan just wiped out entire DC multiverse and recreated it around superman so I think pretty much Manhattan saw plot armour maybe
No that blue guy is a Superman version
Context please? I don't remember that part
@@lastson5014 hmmmm
Doctor Manhattan would likely see CAS as a superior being
"The Ultimate Retcon" the Author's final, unbeatable weapon. So this Superman represents the embodiment of the meta narrative
Thank you Rob, this was badass. It was an awesome break from the studies here at CSULB. Keep being Robalicious!
Yessss!
Thank you for doing this video!
Can you do a video about trigon the terrible or monarch pls
In this story:
These cosmic level creatures that exist above concepts of space and time come to Superman for Help
Superman briefly holds a book that is described as having infinite pages, and being bigger than multiverses
His energy is fused with Ultraman's so the duality can power the Thought Robot. Which exists above universes, space, time, etc.
Superman holds the bleed in his mouth which the monitors themselves say only they can do
Aaaaaaaand later ins Final Crisis Superman vibrates his voice and obliterates Darkseids true form.
Just in case anyone was interested in knowing how powerful Grant writes superman
He simply doesn't.
@@human3213 obvious halo fan is obvious
Dropped a like, left a comment, you and the team are absolute legends Rob thanks for giving people like me who don't have a comic store near them something to look forward to every week! #LETSGOCHAMP #RobCorp
Shannon Briggs woo
Yeet
Swag
Same. But keep in mind, in our digital age, you can always buy comics online. (or download illegally if you can't buy them)
saw u on joe rogans podcast LET'S GO CHAMP!!!
Rob...you just gave me the ultimate solution to any "Strongest Version Of Superman vs." topics
Just when you thought superman couldnt get any more powerful. . .
ikr
Ikr
Yep
@arima kishou lol this blog has been debunked already and has no argument.
@arima kishou 5 feats of him what?
3 years later and this still gets me😂😂💯
8:55
"yeah but Goku in his base form can still beat him" - someone in the comment section probably
Bro I thought you was a goku fan for a second
@@johnnycake9239 GOKU WOULD LOSE. Some say he is outerversal in his base which is utterly stupid.
@@ShrabanaMazumder_AsstProfBGC what can I say *cough* fanboys think he beats everyone
You had us in the first half
Some people really believe that?
lol shots fired at Benny
Beyond Omega Level: Rick Sanchez.... do it already
Satan hes op asf
Yes
Yeeeeeeep
He dis it s month after ur comment xD
Superman is a beast
But he looks stupid for having a underwear outside his pants
Man Cosmic Superman is OP.......above the level of even the void in marvel
JAMI Muhammad THAT WOULD BE A GREAT VS. VIDEO
Lu Bu no prop eternity level l guess
wegil idiot ? Eternity is universal .. tribunal is a bit multiversal + .. supes thought robot is multiversal +
SHRIKANT GOSWAMI tribunal is hyperversial+ he is a bit stronger then this superman who is hyperversial but just a bit
SIR SUN MAN no, this superman is on the level of pre retcon Beyonder, Spectre is already at LT's level
Honestly one the craziest characters I've ever seen yet loved the video and felt you did an awesome job explaining him Rob!
So basically, he's the eraser.
Beyond the eraser
Yea his more than that. He's like the ultimate protector of the DC multiverse. Think of him as the DC fan base. Even more powerful than the writers.
@@bensly9194 now thats just kinda impossible
The perfect tool to use in a vs Goku argument
Zatharos perfect way for causing warring threads
Zatharos Not really. That's like saying Vegito is a stronger version of Goku.
SupremeEspio considering that’s a version of Goku himself I don’t see why you wouldn’t use it but okay. Whatever
Zatharos Fusions shouldn't count because that's not truly Goku's power. Same goes for Thought Robot. I see that as help, therefore don't acknowledge it, but if you do then...whatever
SupremeEspio well I mean if you want to talk about about true power with no “assistance” then, we can settle on the next best thing with Gold Superman 1 Million then.
How about Doomsday Superman.
When superman gets infected by the doomsday virus
Best BackPack NA YES that was a good storyline I loved it.
Best BackPack NA. Do you mean Superdoom? Superman kills doomsday and then sucks all of doomsday into himself.
IntergalacticNobody and gets thicc
No super brainy doom
Best BackPack SuperDoom don't you mean
Dc has more universes than Dragon Ball Super
Black Discliples Dragonball Super only has 12 so it doesn't set a high standard lol
Shigeo Kageyama Actually it's 18 since zeno already erase 6 other universes.
Alternis Dim good point but DC and Marvel has Dragonball Super beat.
I would hope so DC has been around for over 75 years with thousands of comics expanding the story over the years
Kanna Kamui that and dbs was a horrible story with garbage animation inconsistencies all over the place. Fuck the fight between goku and vegeta for the first time had better animation then all of dbs...
Thank you rob for simply trying to explain the complexities of The New 52
Thank you Rob, sometimes I feel like the only one who puts Comicstorian in his place. That guy's channel is the Dark Multiverse.
Damn! you just called Comicstorian's channel the OPS! LMAO
interesting video about the most powerful superman in DC. keep up the good work man
Rob, Nice Video, Can you do a Omega level Green Lantern video?
Roblox Barry Allen : oh yeah!
Yes!
Sadly, I’ve probably watched this video 10 times over the years, and I still watch it every time it’s recommended for me. I love it!… even though Rob sounds so frustrated while doing CAS. lol
Why sandly?😂
you're doing God's work Rob. Thanks for working so hard and putting out so much high quality work.
I always though '52' was in reference to the number of established characters. Shows what I know about comics.
I remember the thought robot appeared more than in just the Superman beyond miniseries. Can’t remember exactly where but I remember a second appearance after the death and return of Superman...could be wrong but I distinctly remember a dc comic stating the need for the thought robot- don’t know if he appeared though
“Ultra Instinct Goku can beat any version of Superman.”
*Cosmic Armor Superman flinches*
“Who the hell was Goku?”
Superman doesn't kill
Barely
Cause he kills in injustice, and probably only villains in comics that's all
@@leviticuscornballs Post Crisis Superman has Killed Zod and His Cronies.
75% DC fans will try to start a war with dbz characters.
25% fans will just enjoy the video.
Fictional Fan dbz fans*
i ask some to prove goku could beat ca sup and they say goku go ui and ato-doge everything.
he can't and i know it. just wanted to see what they try to pull to say he could. lol
It's the other way around. EVERYTIME
Your math is way wrong. Only a few comments even suggest the battle. Also who are you to talk since you're obvisly here to start crap.
I wish to see more of this character, seems as though he has potential for a great story.
So he's basically D.C 's protege
Billy - Not anymore. It was a one-off thing in 2006.
Billy that's what I was thinking
Generic Fan of Dragonball and DC yeah of course not now but I'm terms of powers, he's just one of those cheap characters
Billy more op lol
Billy but more op
Comicstorian gives lessons to comics explained :)
8:58 LITERALLY CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD LMAOOOO
Goku fanboys still say he can beat this Superman lmao
They are the autistic ones.
He can beat all versions of superman except one million and cosmic armour
Cereal Guy Goku can bath in the Sun?
Cereal Guy silver age superman, superboy prime, strange visitor superman, god of strength superman, new 52 superman lol i can keep going
@@JayBelafonte yes but no he can't breath in space but is durable enough to stay in the sun
Keep up the great work bro 👍
He is hands-down my favorite Superman and I hope to learn more about
I disagree that he's the most powerful Superman. In the 1940s Superman participated in a storyline on the radio broadcast called "Clan of the Fiery Cross". In it, Superman infiltrates the KKK using actual code words and arguing against parables they told.
What makes that version of Supes the most powerful ever is that he didn't just defeat one chapter of the Klan in a fictional world. By exposing their secrets to a national audience, unveiling their mysticism as baloney, and arguing against them he actually dealt a fatal blow to the actual Klan in the real world. It devastated recruitment and coordination between them in an organization that was so tied to secret knowledge, codes, and anonymity. It outed thousands of Klansmen by revealing who would have said certain things.
He played a non-trivial role in defeating a super villain society on the other side of the 4th wall. Very few fictional characters can defeat people in the real world but Superman is apparently an exception.
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He's not Superman tho
this has to be the dumbest comment in all of comics explained.. please do us a fav and never comment again..
There is a universe that represents the real world though. Cosmic Armor Superman can easily top that feat with little to know effort.
Rafael Lopez true
Cosmic Superman is the protector of STORIES. ALL STORIES. DC, Marvel, all myths, all anime, etcetera, etcetera. All of it, told and untold. It means he can do anything conceivable and not conceived yet. Power incarnate doesn't even begin to describe him.
not really, i'm pretty sure he doesn't exist anywhere else than the DC universe
@Jordan Fuifui Still only exists in DC and everything tied to DC tho. Marvel (or Image, or whatever different conpany) have nothing to do with DC's monitor realms
@ServantRules No, CAS only exists within DC> Don't know where you got that exists in "All" stories from.
@@uncledruggie669 If you read the story and didn't understand Grant Morrison used the Monitors and Overmonitors as the metaphor for writers, artists, and editors, the Bleed as the medium of writing/drawing and Cosmic Superman as the embodiment of all stories that cannot be defeated because of the concept of "to be continued", then that's why you don't get it.
@@ServantRules CAS still isn't the protector of "ALL" stories. Doesn't matter what Grant Morrison used the writers for. CAS ONLY exists within the DC universe. He can be defeated. Characters scale higher than him. He doesn't exist anywhere outside the DC universe.
Thanks Rob, I am actually surprised that I had never heard of this version of Superman. Although I have to say now that I am happy that I didn't, I don't like the idea nor the idea of superman being a machine. Prime 1 M! remains my favorite version. Thanks as always!!
"Dudes just like Superman. He's got telepathy, he can shape-shift and he's afraid of fire. Thanks for watching guys. PPPEEAACCEE!"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
5:30 I'm dying with the face 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's real name is Plot Armor Superman 😁😁😁
Sebastien-Loik Ntsangou-Kanda Plot armour is one of his abilities lol
Ikr
Sebastien-Loik Ntsangou-Kanda like Batman
Imagine comsic armor batman
Precisely
I have this comic in 3D and it was so much fun to read!
I hope he also had the power to foresee that he wouldn't be used again, but i wouldn't know because this is the first I've heard of him
I'd imagine CAS and Goku's fight going something similar to Goku vs Beerus when they first met.
*Goku charges Superman*
*Superman flicks his finger*
*99.99% of the Dragon Ball multiverse is decimated in an instant*
*Superman goes back to DC universe bored af*
Super gt goku yes i mean this dude is angle or zeno or beyond level
Sdh and xeno version..that trickly do..since there is someone who try to kill zeno? The same guy who literly stronger then anyone in db super
Did you watch the video this isn't superman he is basically "fused" with ultraman and a HUGH power boost. This isn't only superman that's like saying lets have goku and zeno fuse and then give that fusion a massive power boost.
Parak eet its ultra man and superman fused, they are the same being just different universe so uh yes its still superman lol
@@MrChrisVega What? Are you fucking stupid this is 2 supermans in one with a huge power boost.
@@yorgfigure6164 clearly u didn't watch the video superman took over the thought robot so its only superman's conscious controlling the robot, but in mind its 2 superman fused together, so basically its still superman cause hes the one in control. Thats why if you've read the comics u would see that mandrak calls him superman instead of thought robot
If Cosmic Armor Superman is there to protect the multiverse, then where was he when the dark knights and Barbados attacked?
Maybe protecting the multiverse from something worse?
dude they seperate go back to their earth to continue life.
Vel Tal But Cosmic armour Superman buried himself and wrote to be continued on his tombstone, so I think he's still opened to Superman piloting him again
There are worse things in the DCU than Barbados
iM HaZY lol
That imp still wont stop messing with him and batman tho lmao
“Cosmic Armor Superman” is the most perfect combination of letters and spaces ever conceived in our timeplane.
@arima kishou Odin is multiversal + dumbass 😂😂😂Cas is high Hyperveresal
@arima kishou he exists in the monitor sphere making him high Hyperveresal
Lol let's see Martian Manhunter next
marquise reeves your wish came true
Can you do spawn or black bolt?
Comicstorian hopefully got a chuckle out of this
Thanks for doing this guy, I had a hard time finding information on him
The THOT robot😂
tyler .jackson why would say this, now I can't get it out from my heard
That litterly just popped into my head right before I saw this comment lol
Yeah! He gettin some Thot ass everyday! That's when CA Superman takes of his CA for THOT ass.
Lmaoo..im not even mad😂
I knew i couldntve been the only one😂😂
How about LOBO or ICON..
Ali Sonson Only black people care about Icon.
I kid, I kid. I myself also love Icon.
Icon needs more exposure! Glad they showed him in Young Justice.
Soooo Cosmic Armour/Thought Robot Superman is a fusion between matter&anti-meta supermans, which is a conceptual beeing made to never lose&"save the day"?
Does that mean that the Presence is below the over monitors, Mandrak&Cosmic Armour Superman?
Also what would be the equivalent to Marvel's The One Above All in DC then?
The presence =toaa=the pencil
Cosmic armor superman=the earser😁
merrick silverwolf The Writer
Well technically yes he would be
The Presence cosmic armour superman is out Side of fiction and presence is inside of dc fiction.and mandrakk was made by over monitor to eat the dc story and cosmic armour superman beats him and throw back to over monitor.mandrakk can’t be killed he come back to life again to eat the story. The monitor can kills toaa and presence with ease because he was outside of fiction
Over monitor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everything
Mandrakk=cosmic armour superman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toaa presence living tribunal spectre Lucifer and Michael
Apple Id No.
I'm surprised the how often people Overlook the whole to be continued Bit. Mandrakk stated that the tombstone was Cosmic armor Superman's her Superman's or something like that and ask Superman what he wanted written on it. During the battle Cosmic armor Superman realized he was inside of a self-assembling hyper story that was trying its best to kill him. Knowing that at the end of the story he was supposed to die regardless of him being Victorious over the threat he created the ultimate loophole. By stating to be continued even if the story that was trying to kill him was brought to a end supposedly at the end of the current DC Multiverse he would be able to resurrect not just himself but the entire DC Multiverse at the start of the next story his to be continued rather than the end or anything that could be considered final
I bet cosmic armor superman is faster than flash. lol I've said this before superman is a character that can practically do anything IF push. these comic book writers are showing this in all the things superman has done and continue to do its is like what would superman do next. After all he is the grandaddy of all super hero
Flash or the speed force is a 3 spatial 1 time dimensional existence surrounding the current multiverse. Ca Superman is above that dimensional bottleneck. So was Darkseid when he was falling through the higher dimensional barriers casting a shadow over the multiverse. There's a map on this. They can destroy the speed force just like mr myxplikt can as he is of 5th dimensional race of beings. I honestly think either you're trolling or don't understand what CA Superman represents.
*GOD OF DEATH FLASH* is faster.
Sam Geurdi you can not destroy the speed force
Ray Legend
Cosmic armor is beyond the speed force bruh
+Happy compsognathus
No Flash incarnation is *anything* to CAS
cosmic armor superman vs beyonder (pre retcon)
cosmic armor superman vs living tribunal
Cosmic armor superman vs pre retcon beyonder.
Cosmic armor get raped.
*Cosmic armor vs living tribunal*
Cosmic armor gets GODstomped
@Grim Reaper "the ability to adapt to whatever he needs to be" so... CAS is basically like the protege, who has already copied the power of the beyonder and the living tribunal, additionally he can edit reality as he sees fit and it he is fully aware of the fourth wall... he can literally feel the reader's breath and heartbeat through the pages of the comic book.
@@worldman3218 yea but comsic armor superman is at least 11D or possibly 12D but living tribunal is 16D
@@worldman3218 and protege is like 17D
@Grim Reaper protge kicked living tribunal's ass so hard that the comic book writers themselves made a celestial that can defeat the protege... and superman can without any doubt beat the living crap out of protege. Also how can you say that the living tribunal is in a higher plane of existance than CAS, if CAS is aware of the fourth wall while the living tribunal isn't?
Cosmic Armor Superman VS DOOMSDAY!!!
Well think about it they can both adapt to their situation.
TheEyelessObserver 😂😂no contest man
I knew I'd seen this but it just popped up, again. Neat.
Did you do Martian Manhunter?
Gotta say, Patonson's mascara shot was pulled from this.
Now do lucifer and micheal or beyonder.
The Truth Michael is weak as he can only shape matter, really depends where the fight is, lucifier would get destroyed in the monitor sphere, Beyonder was already covered in a separate video (I think)
hyku but micheal is the third strongest character in dc.
hyku He never did Pre-Retcon Beyonder
I'd still like to see Martian Manhunter.
YELLOW LANTERN PUNISHER (Frank Castle) v.s. BLUE LANTERN CAPTAIN AMERICA (Steve Rogers)
The Bombtastic Bag-Man Bro that sounds too good to be true #TeamCap
The Bombtastic Bag-Man holy shit #TeamPunisher FTW
The Bombtastic Bag-Man no
+RasenKamehameha X100 Steve would beat Frank.Also he respects Cap too much so he wouldn't ever fight him
Lockjaw he inspired almost universal hope throughout the Marvel Universe, m8. Even characters like Deadpool and Punisher look up to him.
These two issues were so confusing thank you for clarifying
Superman One Million is actually the name of Kal Kent, Superman's descendant from the 853rd century who's also a member of Justice Legion A. This fits in with the informal naming conventions of the other JLA members of that era (Batman One Million, Wonder Woman One Million, Aquaman One Million, Starman One Million, Hourman One Million, and Flash One Million aka John Fox).
The golden, original Superman who spent 15,000 years inside the sun after his return to Earth in the 700th century and who wields the last Green Lantern power ring is Superman Prime. Because he's the "prime" or first Superman--not to be confused with Superman-Prime, the adult version of Superboy-Prime from the pre-Crisis Earth-Prime.
Note that Superman One Million would still be "beyond Omega Level" since he has all of the powers of the original Superman plus 10 other superpowers introduced to the Superman bloodline when one of his ancestors married the queen of the 5th dimension. On top of that, when Superman Prime returned to Earth's solar system in the 700th century, he agreed to bestow a power boost to whichever of his descendants was the active Superman of the era as long as they agreed to remain the protector of Earth. This combination of abilities allowed Superman 1M to literally punch through time from the 20th century back to the year 85,271.
blackermarket123 so I guess that makes prime 1 million stronger than galactus and thanos.
Kal Kent is the Superman of DC One Million, Kal EL is the Superman Prime of DC One Million, he is never referred to as Superman One Million he is referred to as *SUPERMAN PRIME* One Million by fans.
Superman is the best!
Dalton Prather
Agreed
ye :D
american fanboy who has never whatched db
ardian sadiku i have kiddo. I have
Nay
Do a beyond omega level Batman. Tell us why Batman is one of the most dangerous man in the universe.
Jaylon Collins Plot armour/favoritism. There you go.
Nate River An advanced Intellect, wells of financial resources, mastered every martial art, expert in every field of science, and being one of the best strategist in his universe.
People who think Batman prevails solely due to plot armor and favorism don't know much about the character and underestimate what someone with his money, knowledge, and skill could be capable of.
Shigeo Kageyama There is nothing that Batman's money, skill, or knowledge could do against any of the heavy-hitters that actually want to hurt him.
The "Because he's Batman" meme was born out of this. I don't underestimate Batman's skill, or money, or knowledge. I'm just not gonna act like any of these things put him in the same breath as Flash, WW, Superman, Martian Manhunter etc..
Imagine if all of them were aliens who had never been to earth. Can you honestly say with a straight face that ANY of them would be like "Oh shit, we better not cause trouble there. There's a smart guy with money and knows martial arts!"?
Nobody can say 'yes' with a straight face and still try to defend Batman as "human."
There's an actual movie of Darkseid taking hits from Superman and WW AT THE SAME TIME, and Darkseid barely budges.
Then Batman comes with a little rocket in his belt that somehow does more than those 2.
When Batman stays in his own comics, he's one of my favorites. When Batman shares panels with people he has no business being around, it just becomes absurd. It's either plot armour or CIS.
Nate River Batman has held his own and prevailed against stronger opponents before. The time he defeated some of the strongest justice league members with the justice buster is a great example of this
Shigeo Kageyama The Justice Buster is an example of PIS. It's literally "let's not go all out on him."
Batman stands on his own or prevails ONLY if these beings hold back on him. That's like letting a toddler punch you in the face over and over and then actually believing he could beat your ass if he eventually draws blood. The toddler isn't special, you're letting the toddler hit you.
It would take less than 1% of Supermans max to destroy everything Batman is, was, and ever will be. This is a fact. But again, Batman will somehow pull something random out of his ass "because he's Batman."
I don't care how smart he is, or how much prep he has, there are some beings who would erase Batman from existence. But because he's popular, he will reach into his ass, and suddenly be able to follow the movements of Flash, or go toe-to-toe with Superman.
I swear, people argue that Superman is boring because he's too op, but bring up Batman who can apparently beat everyone in the universe despite just being a rich genius. Okay.
Hah! "Benny has dumb hair." Fucking awesome! Lol.
"What Cosmic Armor Superman's power are, well they're basically everything."
"What Cosmic Armor Superman really is, is a plot device"
"One of his abilities is the ability to adapt to whatever he needs to be in order to defeat whatever threat his facing"
"Literally, there is nothing or no one that will be able to defeat Cosmic Armor Superman"
Mandrakk killed him. But it was a weird fight of "I win no matter what" vs "I cant be beaten no matter what"
But real superman can and will be.. Don't ask me why
Goku: hey how strong are you
Cosmic superman:YES
Like Rule 34 of Powers
Ca superman died but not on mandrakk he literaly kick his ash but he only want to save lois on multiverse he said he dont want ca s
Would you say that Superman himself is a Beyond Omega Level Threat?
Michael Gordon I guess it would depend on the writer. Some versions of Superman aren't anywhere near Solar System levels...his average showings are in that range actually. You have versions that are planetary at best, then you have extreme versions that are galaxy - universal. It all depends on the writer, the story, and what version of Superman you choose.
ReeceHoward06 Or basically which superman.
Michael Gordon yes he is. That's why Darkseid wants him. With supes intellect and AND OP powers, he'd wreck anyone without warping abilities. Or, he'd just create his army of normal street thugs and give them super powers( he's able to do this if he sundips for long enough, around a say would do). However, anyone who can warp reality could essentially kill him with hi difficulty
Dom c Pretty much. But even when you pick one mainline Superman, the interpretation of his powerlevel and skill sets are WILDLY different. It's kinda hard to determine where exactly he stands because of this and also why Superman Prime 1mil is actually not very easy to scale from the main continuity Supes. His high ends and low ends are quite as even with his average showings. That being said, he's anywhere from star level to galaxy when you take out the outlier low and high ends. I guess that'd put him at omega levels, but not beyond it...depends on where exactly does a beyond omega rank(i believe universal and beyond).
And who would win in a 1v1, Cosmic Armor Supes or Doomsday considering they both adapt to whatever they are going up against?
So cosmic level superman pwns the entire dbz universe.
Justin Burton yeah but you will still have people say otherwise
Justin Burton All but toribot.Anyone else is getting erased to molecular level with less than 0.00001% of CA superman.
Anastasia Ntemiri sounds like a plot device vs plot device
Justin Burton Well,tori bot is the creator of everything in dbz and the actuall omnipotent in the series.Omnipotence>everything so tori bot wins.Everyone else gets easily murdered.That includes Zen-oh as of now.There is also super shenron who can grand any wish.But there is a question.Could the super dragon balls work on someone who is outside of dbu and generaly out of existence???I think not but who knows.
Anastasia Ntemiri cosmic supermans power is to make up whatever power he needs to defeat his opponents. So he would become tori.bots creator and shit it out of existence.
bruh you violated Batman 2:15 😆
Beyond omega level Dumbledore!
wow like literally he used a plot armor "plot armor superman"
I'm waiting for the DBZ fanboys to come out and say that Goku could beat Cosmic Armour Supes 😝
The only thing that can beat a living plot device is another living plot device. So you'd have to look for something like that in DBZ.
THEMrFill goku would beat cosmic armor superman with his dick 😂
Ultima Nova hope you're joking
Ultima Nova 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I got it, that comment😂
THEMrFill DBZ are just a bunch of weebs still stuck in the mid 2000s not realizing that people have moved on 😂
So basically, Superman and Batman with prep.
Plot Armor Superman
"A THOUGHT-ROBOT CAPABLE OF ADAPTING INSTANTLY TO COUNTER ANY FUTURE THREAT. A SENTINEL SUIT DESIGNED FOR A SINGLE PURPOSE. TO PROTECT ALL EXISTENCE AGAINST THE ULTIMATE ENEMY."
Everything you think of any powers, any possibilities, any ideas, any plot armors, any stories even before you write a character that will beat CAS, CAS already adapted and countered it INSTANTLY. You have bigger candy? Oh hell no CAS has twice bigger candy than you. You will call for an EDITOR to edit CAS story?? CAS already adapted and fired your EDITOR. The writer of CAS wanna change CAS powers? CAS already adapted and become a Writer on his story. You're thinking right now?? CAS already adapted to it so don't even think or have thoughts about countering CAS cuz he already adapted and countered it INSTANTLY.
CAS has already given you a beer, so no need for the "Give this man a beer" joke anymore
Kathode N CAS adapted to that joke and has given me two beers and another joke lol
wtf
BJorn LuLszic saitama can kill him with one punch
Apostolos CAS adapted and countered One Punch Man story. CAS sent a little editor of himself in One Punch Man then slapped One’s face and with a little whisper “this is how you write a non boring character”. Little Editor CAS edited character manga One Punch Man and made Saitama to a boxer level. Saitama was so happy that he can go all out in a boxing match. Thanks to CAS. 👍
This isn't complicated. It's actually pretty simple: Comic books like to abuse this cheap tactic of making increasingly overpowered characters as an easy way to keep raising the stakes, and they don't care how stupid it sounds.
First bad guy wants to blow up a building. The next wants to blow up the world. The next wants to blow up the universe. The next wants to blow up ALL THE UNIVERSES. The next wants to blow up REALITY ITSELF. The next wants to BLOW UP REALITY AND TIME AND EAT GOD. The next one wants to eat God's dad and also everything ever plus whatever else there is besides "everything".
It's jus little kids shouting INFINITY PLUS ONE over and over.
LAVATORR finally. Thanks.
@@ddd-sx7pw It's why I avoided comics until very recently. It's like, they're afraid readers won't care about a "low stakes" villain after Lord Wizro tried to have sex with every mailbox in the universe, but that's just sloppy storytelling. If someone on the street pointed a gun at you, you wouldn't say "BORING. He's not even gonna knock over a building."
@@903-v8u Remember in the Justice League movie when Superman punched Steppenwolf one time and completely shattered every bone in his body? And then you realize, hey wait, so Steppenwolf is actually way weaker than the past two villains Superman fought, and every other member of the Justice League is just fucking useless?
LAVATORR the same can be said about dragon ball characters.
@@thegreatgeekdetective6925 That's why I never got into it. Even as a little kid I'd see snippets and think "Is this nothing but squatting and yelling?"
"decides that it is reasonable to beat up people in the night, dressed like a bat." lmfao this actually made me laugh.
But what happens when 2 plot level powers collide?
Writers get fired, the editors flip a coin and decide who wins? Yeah. =))
Inside of narrative it's gonna depend on the genre, entirely, because at that point, genre rules take over. While there's SOME room in film noir, indie comics and anime for the bad guys (and/or the "embodiment of all things rotten" as it were) to win out and win hugely, truth is, DC Comics is THE original traditional comic book company. So there will be a battle of Good Versus Evil--that's what they do. And the Good Guys will win--again, that's what they DO.
The narrative then boils down to HOW that happens. It won't ever be a _Madoka Magica_ business where the main character/hero is screwed from the get-go and it's just a matter of who delivers the final defeat. Nope, in the DCU, goodness, if not mercy, will prevail. Always.
That is what happened in this story mandrakk was a plot manipulater dc stories were gonna end in final crisis that's why it's called final crisis but when they both fought superman won because the thought robot is based on literal concept of superman which you know superman saves the day. Superman's story was stronger and he won
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