I love at 29:54 the sea emperor says “I’ll be an ocean current” and in the new subnautica 2 trailer there’s a ocean current that takes the character deeper
@@Oh-bo A whirlpool is a body of rotating water produced by opposing currents or a current running into an obstacle. Still a current no need to urm... actually, loser.
I think there’s a databank entry about the inventor of the seamoth that implies something along the lines of “If someone does something that massively increases Alterra’s profits they immediately get promoted to Alterra’s board of directors.” I think the discovery of a plethora of hyper advanced alien technologies would count as something that would boost Alterra’s profits significantly, which means Riley would be promoted to the board of directors.
@@zenphir9051 Riley could very well have been sent back to lead the construction of the outposts in the Crater area. This would make sense considering he knows the region and fauna so well TLDR: Riley came back to get his Cuddlefish 😂
37:18 - That isn't just any reaper skull, but THE reaper skull! The very same reaper that Marguerit subdued and brought to the base she shared with the Torgals in the deep grand reef; the one she then killed, and used as a makeshift raft/food supply to survive in as she drifted across the planet to sector 0. Her logs about that time are morbid AF, but I kept wishing she'd written more.
it doesnt say what happened to the one she subdued, this was a SECOND one that attacked while she had the first one restrained. she killed this one on her own with a sharp scrap of metal.
5:00 The Architects being a hivemind would have made it very hard to make out the emperors single voice among the billions - trillions of voices they already hear everyday
@YTaccNotice I'm talking about in the og Subnautica and about the architects in that game, specifically the architects studying the sea emperor in the lava zone facility. They were all connected to each other at that time. The part of the video I time stamped talks about how the sea emperor reached out to those architects studying it and how they didn't respond to her, most likely because it would be hard to hear her single voice in the web of every other architects voice they are already hearing.
First thing I think about? “Warning: Multiple Leviathan class entities in your vicinity, are you sure whatever your doing is worth it?” *Insert nightmare fuel roar here*
You're mischaracterizing Alan. Firstly, he's of species that operate on logic much more than emotions they have quite a bad grasp of. They don't even know what music is and don't understand it. He expected the sea dragon to get sad or mad (whatever that is, he's not sure) for losing an egg but never expected it to get so triggered it would somehow stalk them all the way to lost river, ghosts' territory. Secondly, the facility walls were made with leviathans in mind, they were supposed to withstand anyone's attack, but the enraged dragon overcame the odds (and died right after, if i'm not mistaken). Basically his only, albeit crucial, mistake is he never bothered to understand emotions of emotionally driven creatures, but he's not stupid. And he actively makes up for that mistake. As for why he got contained in the cube, iirc there were others, its just that his cube's power source survived slightly longer. I'm not sure about the last part though, its been a while since I played the game. In any case, he's the lead scientist, the one with most knowledge, so it makes sense for him to get the cube storage even if it was the only one.
@@lukas4915 he was a literal genius who out grew his own body because of it, yet didn't understand emotions past the the basic of basics. He was an idiot plain and simple.
26:30 dont forget there is an alternative ending for the sunbeam where if you do deactivate the gun prior to answering the radio the sunbeam will tell you that the debris field is to much and they must leave thus technically saving the sunbeam but still requiring you to make the rocket anyways
@Pejgismalt maybe not, as she uses pda of xenowork instead alterra, so she doesn't have any access to any alterra technology and that's why pda is empty
@@ayush.s_36 and think about this. She went there herself, knowing the risks and dangers. When Ryley went there, he was forced there due to the aurora's destruction via the QEP.
@@Abyssal_Blade029 she was fueled by her desires to solve her sisters death, which is pretty stupid since she barely knows anything about scuba diving let alone the planet because if it was real life she would probably die in a few hours, unless she was licensed or something then yeah
Everyone always says that it's a second reaper that destroyed the Degasi Grand Reef base, but I will die on the hill that I believe it was a sea dragon for a few reasons. * Paul refers to it as an "alien kraken". Could he be referring to the mandibles of the Reaper, both in this quote and referring to the "tentacles", just being mistaken? Sure, definitely. But having seen it Grab something, mandibles don't move the same way tentacles would. They're much more rigid compared to a tentacle being more flowy, and noodle-y. * Paul also says that the "alien kraken" is bigger than a Cyclops. The reaper leviathan is 55 meters (180 ft), where the Cyclops is 54 meters (177 ft). Technically longer, but barely (from a far) , and likely not a big enough difference for someone to make the distinction in a high stress situation. The Sea Dragon, on the other hand, is 112 meters(367 ft). SIGNIFICANTLY longer than a Cyclops. * We know that Sea Dragons hunt Reapers, or at least have in the past, due to there being Reaper skeletons in the inactive lava zone. It's entirely possible that a Sea Dragon was either already hunting the Reaper Maida wounded. OR a Sea Dragon noticed a weakened Reaper that would make an easy meal and went after it. The latter I think is more likely, as I don't think Sea Dragons have the brain power to wait until Maida got it back to the base, and it would surely have no issue catching up to her. * The sound we hear in the PDA Log when the Degasi base gets attacked does NOT sound like a Reaper to me. It sounds much more like a Sea Dragon and feels like the game's way of eluding to them before the player had seen them yet. The player had likely already seen (had definitely already heard) a Reaper leviathan, and could have potentially already seen a Ghost, since there are adults in the Grand Reef. If the player had heard both of these already and is now hearing a PDA of a reportedly MASSIVE leviathan whose roar the player hasn't even heard yet, it'd be a great device to instill fear as to what the hell could be deeper. * We see other Reapers near one another, but never attack one another, suggesting Reaper Leviathans don't typically partake in cannibalism. * Final point why I think it's a Sea Dragon - There are a few Lost River entrances that are big enough to fit a Sea Moth, the Grand Reef is one of those entrances, so it's likely this, and the Mountains Entrance, are the ones the Sea Dragons use to go out to find Reapers to drag back to the inactive lava zone, so a Sea Dragon could have been nearby. There are definitely a few gameplay functions that make this debunkable - We never see a Sea Dragon hold/grab anything with its tentacles. We never see a Sea Dragon out in the Grand Reef, while the Crag Fields/Crash Site isn't too terribly far from the Grand Reef. It's MUCH less believable that Maida would not only be able to puncture the Sea Dragon's lava-proof skin with a dinky piece of metal, but also fight it off so it doesn't eat her. It's already a bit of a stretch to believe one woman could take on a Reaper with a knife and a dream. All in all, FANTASTIC video, please don't get the idea that I didn't enjoy it, I'm just a HUGE nerd and deeply interested when it comes to Subnautica lore and spent a good 20-30 minutes of my first playthrough just listening to that one PDA log of the Degasi getting attacked and listening to Reaper Roars because I wasn't sure what I was hearing lol I LOVE Subnautica lore, and gladly take the chance to ramble on about it for several paragraphs xD
very good interpretation! honestly i feel like the logs were intended to be about a sea dragon when the devs changed it halfway through, there's so many plot holes when paul describes the leviathan bz kinda confirmed that it was a reaper, but the logs definitely feel like they're describing a sea dragon more, especially with the tentacles part, glad you enjoyed the video!
@@lapisfluff Marg COULD have sailed off on the reaper she brought back that was already wounded, but I agree this would still have plot holes - why wouldn't a sea dragon, just yoink it from her as she drifted off on it? The only theory I could come up with to support it is that somehow she got to the void with the heavily wounded/dead reaper, so the dragon left them alone, not wanting to venture into the void, but that's a stretch. I could totally see it being a half-way development thing where it initially was meant to be a dragon but there was too much conflict with the idea, so they were just like "nah nevermind, reaper." but didn't change the description or sound in the PDA logs. I'm glad you liked my interpretation! It's not often I get to geek out with someone as interested in the lore as me :D
@@HadalMoth Point 1: Okay, so you have a point with the lines: "Came out of nowhere. An alien *kraken*, bigger than a Cyclops." "Just as its *tentacles* came within reach, Maida appeared out of nowhere." I think "kraken" by the point of 2341, has likely evolved into a word for "Sea monster" not an actual kraken, although I could be over analyzing that. But maida obviously as you said couldn't possibly have overpowered a Sea dragon. I seriously don't think the already wounded reaper would just randomly wake up and attack, as aggressive and ready as it seemed. Your point about a reaper not being able to "grab" things is true, however Paul never mentioned grabbing, only that the monster turned to him. I seriously also doubt that even with the nails, a Sea drag could "tear a hole through the hull" MANDIBLES on the other hand easily could. And also reapers can still grab things remember when it grabbed your Seamoth with said mandibles? Yeah. Point 2: So the way Paul describes the monster in HIS LOG definitely I agree sounds like a Sea dragon, no doubt... As I said though, the meaning of the word "Kraken" can have easily evolved from now to 2341. I can't actually explain "tentacles" "Bigger than a cyclops" could be the devs not taking into account high-stress situations, and instead pointing out the accurate size instead. I think however Paul's log was definitely intended at first to be describing a sea dragon. Point 3: Sea dragons have, and probably canonically still hunt reapers. But Maida likely got the reaper from the dunes. (I’ll elaborate during the final point. Point 4: Although I like your analogy on what the devs were thinking, the roar was DEFINITELY a reaper. I compared the roars of the log, a reaper, and a Sea dragon. The log roars and the reaper roars matched GREATLY both sounding like gut wrenching screams, not a Dragon cry, AT ALL. I literally couldn't hear it. At all. Definitely didn't sound like a dragon to me. BUUUUT maybe Simon Chylinski actually misunderstood the assignment from Tom Jubert, and consequently so did the BZ writers. (Tom had left) I do think it could have been originally intended to be a dragon. Point 5: Obviously Reapers don't cannibalize each other. But personally I think the other one was driven more by "Hey! That's my family!" Rather than "Oooh, look! Free food." Reapers may not be too intelligent, or have any real feelings or attachments, but I think being a species would give them pure instincts to protect, or at least help each other in danger. Point 6 Final: The only entrance I see a Sea dragon using is the Lost River/Mountains junction tunnel. It leads straight to a reaper habitat, and is a very easy exit/entrance for the dragons to the Lava Zones. The other lost river entrances sure are close to the dunes, but again I don't think the dragons would use such entrances because A. The Dragons are too big (The Trench) B. They probably aren't smart enough, or are too smart, to use an entrance leading to a non-reaper habitat directly. And I see the dragons LEAST of all using the grand-reef entrance. You'd be definitely correct with the Mountains entrance. But the Grand Reef? Nah. Another exit taking a while to get to, leading to another tight cave (Deep Grand Reef), and also another non-reaper habitat further out. I don't think they'd come this way. Besides, the Crash Zone, is the closest biome and still isn't close enough. Maybe the Blood Kelp Trench, being right next to the dunes, but also very tight.
@@Uuan1000 P1. Fair, the meaning of the word could very well have changed/its usage widened. I wasn't meaning that Reapers can't grab, they very much can lol Moreso that the DRAGONS aren't seen grabbing with their tentacles, and the way a tentacle would grab something vs a mandible grabbing something would look different, but again, high stress sitch. You're right, a dragon wouldn't likely TEAR its way through a base, but it could Bash its way through a base, like it did when the precursors yoinked one of its eggs. P2. I could believe the high stress situation making him blow the proportions *out of the water* (hehe) I could also believe that it was originally intended to be a Dragon but the devs scrapped that idea, so I don't have much to say to your point here, I just generally agree :D P3. While I definitely think it's possible she grabbed the reaper from the Dunes, imo its more likely that she would have grabbed it from the crash site since it's much closer. Grabbing it from the crash site also lends itself more to the idea that it was originally a dragon and the idea was scrapped due to their originally being a presumed entrance to the Lava Zone near the crash site that was also scrapped by the devs (look into the Hell Hole, if you're not familiar. It's some pretty cool lore of the game development itself) P4. ngl this part is a STRONG Mandela effect for me. I remember going back and forth for at LEAST an hour, playing the audio clip in game and playing reaper/dragon sounds via the wiki. I remember it not sounding ANYTHING like a Reaper and strongly resembling a Dragon. Going through and listening to YT videos with all the clips, I find myself agreeing with you. That's straight up a Reaper. Idk if the audio quality was just different in my game for some reason, or what but I For Sure remember it sounding so similar to a dragon. Some videos state that the logs they cover are "new voice acting" but these videos were posted 5yrs ago. I first played in 2022 so there's no way I heard the "old" voice logs. Super weird to me, but either way, you're right, the voice log definitely sounds like a Reaper. P5. I could get behind the idea that Maida happened to grab the young of another Reaper, this would also add a nice mirror to Maida inadvertently sabotaging the Degasi crew by stealing the young of a leviathan the same way the precursors did with the Sea Dragon egg. I'd be more inclined to believe the "that's my baby!" than "that's my general kin" as both the Dunes and the Crash Site are plentiful with Reapers, so I feel like if it were just a "don't touch my kind" thing that more than just the one would come to defend it. P6. I personally could see a Dragon using the trench exit/entrance even though it'd be a tight squeeze. The mountains is definitely the easiest for a dragon to use - big, right next to a healthy supply of Reapers, so close you can hear them when you enter the lost river this way. If we're working on the idea that was INITIALLY a Sea Dragon, and the idea was scrapped and replaced with a Reaper, I'm most inclined to then believe the Hell Hole entrance would be the one that was used. It's a hole right to the Lava Zone, where a bunch of Reapers would be, maybe even more than the Dunes/Mountains before the Aurora squished em. It's also pretty close to the Mountains, so this could have meant that the dragons could use either entrance to get to generally the same area in the lava lakes. Currently, there isn't an entrance to the Lava Lakes that doesn't house at least one Ghost. We could either assume that Ghosts and Dragons don't really bother each other, but I don't believe that. Ghosts generally feed on smaller creatures, becoming filter feeders when they get big enough and move out into the void, however they're extremely territorial, so I don't think they'd be chill with a Sea Dragon poking its nose in their area. All in all, I don't think the few sea dragons left are long for the world of 4546B, especially with the Aurora potentially covering/destroying their primary way of getting food. It's definitely a Reaper that attacks the Degasi base in the game we currently have, after re-listening to the voice logs, but I'm still hanging on the idea that it was originally intended to be a dragon and the idea was scrapped lol
@@HadalMoth Yeah Ik about the hell hole, listen I am a Subnautica VETERAN... By that I mean have been in love with the game since the Pre-Alpha... The hell hole however, to my knowledge was scrapped before the Degasi even existed, so I don't think that stands up. And also, I don't think it canonically existed in the current Subnautica, because otherwise we'd be able to access it from the lava zone, but there is no hole leading from the lava zone to an Aurora bottom. I see what you did there... Blew it out of the water... I like the idea of it being a baby, a full size reaper would be pretty hard to tow. That last one about Dragons and Ghosts... I think that has more to do with an in-game hole, more than anything we're talking about... But that is true, perhaps Ghosts are just scared of 'em. Also, I don't understand why you included grabbing in the first place, I'm sure both Reapers and Sea Dragons could grab, but neither of the "Disaster" Or "The End" logs mention grabbing. Lastly... Why does EVERYONE end friendly comments with lol? 😂
I'm pretty sure you can find a Sea Emperor Leviathan in Sector Zero, this would likely be one of the Big Momma's kids since they were supposed to spread out and spread the Enzyme, thats probably how Robin's sister got the cure to the Kharaa
@@jeremiahwarren2812 Not really. There were several Leviathan Emperors floating around in sector zero, but that was in the old version of the plot. They are not in the new one. And later we can get a blueprint for an enzyme that is literally made up of two easily accessible components (ha-ha, super-developed beings couldn't recreate the enzyme, despite their technological and not only superiority, and a species that is inferior to them in everything (humans) could, ha-ha-ha, not funny, I think there's a plot hole here, sorry)
@@The_Cloak_ Ah, so that's why. But, I still think it looks a little strange that creatures much more advanced than humans couldn't synthesize the enzyme, while humans could.
@@aaa334-80 maybe humans reversed engineered it? The Architects could have definitely done it if they had the better enzyme 42. So maybe humans found enzyme 42 from the crash site, reverse engineered it and then spread it out to sector zero (before the leviathan was unfrozen). Or maybe one of the baby Sea Emperors swam there when it grew up.
@@ThatOneGuy__729 It's quite possible. Especially since this could explain why people even have a recipe for this enzyme. I also have a theory that they took the enzyme blueprint from Riley's PDA and found similar plants in biocomposition on sector zero. But, unfortunately, neither the first nor the second theory is mentioned in the game. Therefore, purely from a plot point of view, we were left without an answer as to how people were able to synthesize this enzyme at all.
21:12-21:25 I always found that to be one of the most chilling dialogues I’ve ever heard. In my opinion is the perfect way for them to end that storyline, just solidifying that they failed. That is the words of a man who knows that he’s already dead, but still trying to be at peace with it which is what makes it so incredible. Amazing voice acting right there.
I think Riley was an important asset just to execute. Although who knows… my personal version is that he got promoted or made captain of an Alterra ship or something like that 🤷🏻♂️ I hope
@@lam1700Riley's incredibly valuable information and efforts that Led to probably tens of trillions in profits thanks to sector 0 and The Crater (wich I still bet is going to be at least implied to have been revisited in Subnautica 2) would probably have paid off his debts
There is something that makes the first Subnautica and the second one so vastly different (and because of the major plot difference of the architects direct interference with the plot) is that the first game had so much more mystery to it. I actually liked how we didn't have the architects in the story like Al-an, but we are left remnants of it. Artifacts of the past. It's so interesting to piece together what happened to them by exploring the biomes. Both Subnautica's are superb when it comes to its adventure & world building, but the first one is just so good. The mystery in fear, wonder, and survival. So peak.
TBH the first thing I think about when visiting a game is the lore of it. Its one of the biggest points of intrest for me. When I saw that Subnautica had such a large amount of lore to it, that I didnt have to go searching for, I was immediately intrigued towards what it had to offer
You forgot to say that they didn't care about finding the degasi. They just wanted to "attempt" to find it so they can be done with it. And when the scanners found a "strange object at the planets surface" (most likely the big gun) officer keen said and I quote "turn that recorder off"
Honestly I love that they talked about Alterra messing with the Khaara bacterium, and the worry about bioweapon. It's fun given the other game made where it does in fact become a bioweapon and it has already been confirmed those games are in the future of the Subnautica universe
i know this is probably not what subnautica 2 will be, but i want a spinoff game of robin and al-an being bad bitches and laying low in an architect city, robin discovering all new things about their culture while al-an makes amends and tries to start giving vaccines or something. This is so different from the other subnautica games so i think it is unlikely but i would love it so much.
Me too! Though that idea for a game is subject to about 50,000 different opinions of what the story should be like, and probably some complainers who just don't like anything, but keep playing the games and complaining about them. 😉
I do believe Alterra makes bases in the crater because you can find posters of Reaper Leviathans in Below Zero. So that means they've come in contact with them, and we know they aren't located in Sector Zero. It at least confirms they've been to other regions of the planet, if anything.
@@FayinKay do YOU not feel fear when gazing into a pool of the same substance you yourself mostly are? does ice not feel the same fear as I do when gazing into the ocean?
I saw some dumb TH-cam short that was like "there's no evidence earth exists in the Subnautica universe, what if it actually got destroyed or something!" And I'm like... did you play the game? Or read the lore?
yeah that stuff seems to be false, if the data entries i found are to be considered canon earth is alive and well under the sol transgov in the subnautica universe
1:45 but didn’t AL-AN say in Below Zero that it was him and a team of Architects that brought the disease to the planet in order to research it and not that they found it like we assume from the first game?
In AL ANS defense i think he was genuinely desperate since by the time he stole the eggs. I headcanon (to make this all make more sense) that the core worlds were going dark as entire planets died off and his species was near extinction. He essentially said "now or never"
This was incredibly made. Give this video a like and share. Props on the incredible effort put into this. Subnautica is such a hidden gem. Cant wait for a movie.
this was just fantastic. i have been fascinated with subnautica for years now. thank you for putting the whole lore into a video it shines new light on what the game is all about
33:36 for a while the juvenile sea emperors where on an area in subnautica below zero before getting scrapped out of the game so i guess u could assume she got it from them 🤔
yup, during early access youd find some juvenile emprors in the area near the glow whales i think, releasing enzyme into the water and asking you to play, referencing their mom's line in the first game
30:49 I don’t think alters killing Riley would be a very good explanation lore wise. As it feels like it would completely diminish your efforts and feeling of accomplishment from the first game. Especially since Riley was silent most people could ascribe themselves too him and I feel it would be a real kick in the nuts, oh you know that guy that you saw this beautiful and wondrous world for the first time through and put massive amounts of efforts so you could escape the dire situation you’d been forced into? Yeah well dead.
Often goes unnoticed but why does Riley owe Altera any money at all.? Lifepod rental.? He has made everything he uses by building the items using molecular samples from natural materials, flotsam & jetsam (Scrap) that he found lying around the place, on a workbench powered by the sun which plucked atoms from the air to replicate the item he needed. Leading to the philosophical question of.. Will there ever be a time survival won't revolve around cash.? Lol.
The PDA said when you first collect diamonds (or gold I don't remember) that any resources you collect or use to make items are property of the Alterra corporation and you will have to reimburse them if you get back
what goose said: every material you use to build, everything you do build, even the plants and animals you eat...all of it gets tallied against you for "unauthorized access to Alterra resources." So you eating a Peeper counts as a luxury equivalent of eating an unnamed Earth fish, and is put against your debt accordingly. The first time I played, I brought back fish samples with me for roleplay reasons. They might have been my Riley's only hope. Though honestly looking back at things, it was likely use of the Ion Cubes and alien tech that truly sets off your debt counter.
I'd like other games in other planets from this universe. For example: some gas planets where you are left on some floating isles building your own cloud city etc...
The plot of the Mercury could easily be its own horror game. Imagine being stuck in a frozen zone on a water covered planet, not having most of the blueprints you'd normally have since you weren't planning on being on the planet, trying to find a way to leave, all while you and everyone else is slowly dying from an unknown disease. When you do finally manage to leave, you get shot down, and that's it for you. The Degasi crew could also be cool, but the story is so linear I don't think it would work well
33:34 in earlier builds of the game, you could find the grown up sea emporer jeuvuniles, the story was likely writin with this in mind. However they got scrapped in the later builds
Pro tip for stalker teeth, get a grav trap, 2 or 3 scrap metal, and drop it all next to stalkers. Grav trap will keep the scrap metal from being pulled away for the most part, and will pull stalkers closer. The stalkers will continually strike at the scrap, and you just have to wait under it for teeth to fall, got like 15 or 16 of em in 5mins.
Watching this, I realized I only did one third of what you can do in below zero (I went straight to building Al-An's body and completing the game) and wondering why it was so short...
When i think of Subnautica I think of the sea emperor mother leviathan. I love how they made her gentle even though she's the biggest leviathan we see. I hope there is some sort of tribute to her story in Subnautica 2. Very excited to see what the game has in store as Subnautica is one of my all time favorites. Thanks for the great video! ❤
20:16 man you know how scared I’d be seeing a reaper in the grand reef? Especially in that little cave area which is mostly pretty safe and he’s just not supposed to be there
30:51 imagine curing a entire planet then deactivating a alien weapon and finally getting back home just to get executed? Nah I don’t think they executed him
@@lapisfluffyes you included the canon story line very well, good job on the video! Flow was very nice, audio well balanced and the visuals quite fitting. Only thing for me is around 29:40 the sea emp noises and quiet was a little too long but it wasnt too bad
@@lapisfluff so for a while in early access there was a different story for Below Zero in which Sam was still alive and helping you throughout the story and Marguerite didn't feel so random because she played a big role in fighting the (only) real villain of the story in alterra corp, as well as getting you off the planet. I can't remember everything as i tend to fill plotholes or undeveloped parts with headcanon but i think Sam was even used as leverage against you and seemed conflicted about your actions. anyways: you should probably still be able to find early access builds on the internet and a couple youtubers like the last bacon, the unknown and exernox made videos about the early access story as it was
At 2:44 when u say it’s in a “unknown galaxy” we can infer that this is the andromeda galaxy due to when sunbeam said that they were on the other side of the andromeda galaxy
2:45 the reason the precursors (another word for the architects) had built this gun to shoot ships entering or exiting was because of how contagious kharaa is, and they couldn’t even risk letting ships in the atmosphere of the planet leave as it would very well mean the end of all alien and human civilizations alike. 20:07 the reason this reaper came was very unlikely to avenge its friend who Marguerite killed as if you somehow scan one the pda will let you know that to evolve the way they did they sacrificed nearly all their intelligence for brawn, and as a result aren’t the smartest. The reaper probably forgot about the other one as soon as it died. But then why are there no reapers in the grand reef today? It’s the same reason there’s so many near the aurora- one of their features is sonar, and when the aurora crashed several reapers thought the large explosion was sound waves bouncing back on whatever they were hunting, and impulsively moved to the new environment. Also if I recall the dunes is faraway from the crash zone which I believe, if I remember it being on the other side of the crater, to be the reason little to none of the reapers in the dunes heard the explosion and didn’t leave their habitat. If a few reapers from most biomes journeyed to the aurora however, you may be thinking there should be more reapers and i definetely cannot blame you. Many likely died from the radiation, and due to the excessive amounts of sandsharks in the crash zone, the skeletons were likely buried faster than most biomes erosion due to sandsharks ability to constantly kick up dust to camouflage themselves having a side effect of making them practically the main source of erosion wherever they live. Also in the same log, 22:25, him saying the others were part of the ecosystem was even more evidence of a previous moment in the video where it was hypothesized that he was talked to by the sea emperor leviathan. This is because of her personality, and always loving to share information, especially in poetic form like when she explains to Riley about the precursors building a facility around her. But what does this have to do with becoming part of an ecosystem? The sea emperor likely shared to Bart about her religious ideas of reincarnation which we know she has as he states possibilities for what she might be when or if she meets you again after death. Bart probably got the idea of reincarnating as an alien of 4546b from the sea emperor.
I want Unkown Worlds to make three prequel games, one for the Mercury II, one for the Degasi, and one where we play through the events of AL-AN making the decisions that led to the first game (Sea emperor’s containment, construction of the QEP, Sea Dragon Massacre, etc) they really cooked with the original game, especially with all the information we get about what happened to the Architects and the Degasi, with all that lore they could make, as previously mentioned, three New Prequel games for the franchise, which means that including Subnautica 2, not counting any potential games after, there would be 5 Subnautica games, which would truly make it a franchise in opinion. And if one of the devs or someone who can contact the devs reads this, let me save Unknown Worlds the trouble of picking names: 1. Subnautica: Mercury 2. Subnautica: The Degasi 3. Subnautica: Precursor Your welcome Unknown worlds
I love subnauticas lore so i instantly clicked (also I am so confused with BZ because like instructions are so unclear and the parts take so much time for al-an to tell you what to do)
The horrifying realisation that I'll have to go to the crash ship to get the parts to make decent progress. Reapers scare the .... out of me. I'm not made for this.
0:32 hmmm 🤔 did I hear subnatica 2 oh nah ima bout to buy below zero again and play it and finish it myself but can someone or can you explain or confirm that the devs are working on subnatica 2 cuh if so 😩
Amazing video! I enjoyed it a lot! Although I thought Subnautica's lore was very consistent, logical and well-crafted while not being too over the top, your video made me realize that the events that took place when the Precursors settled at 4546B up until the outbreak aren't really that consistent and logical... I guess some oversights can be justified. For example, you could argue that the half robotic half biologically perfect Precursors were killed by Kharaa because their biological parts weren't prepared to face the sickness, but I don't really buy it... These mistakes don't make the story that we don't see in-game downright bad, but a little more implausible than I thought before watching your video. I still think that the Subnautica universe has great lore and you presented it super well in your video, yet you also made me think about the tiniest inconsistencies that I too had overlooked during my playthroughs. Again, amazing video and thank you! Have a nice new year!
Well done. Many younger players of this game series don't know how this story was developed. When the game first appeared in early access, there was no "lore" at all. The developers were simply trying to make the game mechanics work. Many popular TH-cam players did a LOT of speculating on what the story might be even though there was no indication that a story was even planned. The first attempt to create a story was the Degasi story line. It wasn't voiced and only marginally revealed in PDA texts. It was disjointed, confusing and contradictory, and didn't follow the final story of Paul, Maida, and Bart. Many gamers still persisted in their speculations that the planet had been inhabited by an older race of beings that somehow had been wiped out, possibly by global flooding. Eventually the developers introduced the buildings of the Architects and a hint at their technology but no explanation of who they were or what they had been doing. During this time, still in Beta, the Degasi story was cleaned up, voiced, and we finally knew what had happened. It seemed that the three had met the same but separate fates. The story of the Degasi ultimately had no effect on how you played the game. The next stage in story development was designed to hand hold the player through the game progression and the series of Arora escape pod messages was developed. Each pod investigated led the player through a logical progress of tech development and finally to the discovery of the Architects' main lab - still with no explanation as to who or what they were, just an ancient race that had disappeared long ago. The full story of the Architects wasn't presented until 2018 when the game was fully released, some four years after the early access release in 2014. Generally speaking this is probably the WORST way to develop a story driven game. Only a few games have achieved success by writing a story to fit the game play long after people have been playing the game without a coherent story.
I have a theory for why she could make the cure at 33:32. It is a mutated kharaa so maybe the mutated kharaa is more susceptible to cures than the regular kharaa. That is my theory why Sam was able to make the cure.
This was really well made! Great video! :)
eyyy thank you so much bacon!!!
Yay bacon!!!
Omg! The real ‘The Last Bacon’!
@@TheLastBacon HI BACON you are awesome btw
No joke the first thing i sae in my mind was you @TheLastBacon like wth
When I hear Subnautica I think of THE GIANT SPACE LASER THAT BLEW MY RESCUE OUT OF THE FUCKING SKY
Wellll, If it didn't, Riley would have spread the kharra bacteria to the entire human race, potentially wiping it out.
@@iancatolico1795 tbh, humans kinda suck, I'm 80% sure that's the whole point of the ending lol
@@Coreupt7118 well maybe subnautica 2 will be us fighting back
@mutantmonkey7825 it's been confirmed to be on a different planet
Same here
I love at 29:54 the sea emperor says “I’ll be an ocean current” and in the new subnautica 2 trailer there’s a ocean current that takes the character deeper
oh my god YES YES YES
I can see you sir as a man of greater intelect, these were good thoughts you had. Have a nice day
69 likes on this comment rn
you mean a whirlpool
@@Oh-bo A whirlpool is a body of rotating water produced by opposing currents or a current running into an obstacle. Still a current no need to urm... actually, loser.
I think there’s a databank entry about the inventor of the seamoth that implies something along the lines of “If someone does something that massively increases Alterra’s profits they immediately get promoted to Alterra’s board of directors.” I think the discovery of a plethora of hyper advanced alien technologies would count as something that would boost Alterra’s profits significantly, which means Riley would be promoted to the board of directors.
i like that theory, if you think about it nothing in game says riley dislikes alterra
I would love it if Riley comes back as a big bad in the next game.
@@zenphir9051 Riley could very well have been sent back to lead the construction of the outposts in the Crater area. This would make sense considering he knows the region and fauna so well
TLDR: Riley came back to get his Cuddlefish 😂
That is a great theory
If he somehow paid back the trillion credits he owes them
37:18 - That isn't just any reaper skull, but THE reaper skull! The very same reaper that Marguerit subdued and brought to the base she shared with the Torgals in the deep grand reef; the one she then killed, and used as a makeshift raft/food supply to survive in as she drifted across the planet to sector 0. Her logs about that time are morbid AF, but I kept wishing she'd written more.
There were originally gonna be more of her logs but they got cut iirc
there would have been so much less plot hole
it doesnt say what happened to the one she subdued, this was a SECOND one that attacked while she had the first one restrained. she killed this one on her own with a sharp scrap of metal.
5:00 The Architects being a hivemind would have made it very hard to make out the emperors single voice among the billions - trillions of voices they already hear everyday
@@FeaturingKing He also said it was just Alan put in the cube
@YTaccNotice I'm talking about in the og Subnautica and about the architects in that game, specifically the architects studying the sea emperor in the lava zone facility. They were all connected to each other at that time. The part of the video I time stamped talks about how the sea emperor reached out to those architects studying it and how they didn't respond to her, most likely because it would be hard to hear her single voice in the web of every other architects voice they are already hearing.
"With you, I am ready to face whatever awaits."
Thats goodass line.. Ive been waiting for a sequel ever since hearing that line
Oh hi there fellow honkai star rail fan what are you doing this far out from the community where it is safe?.
@RadicalFloat_95 ?
First thing I think about?
“Warning: Multiple Leviathan class entities in your vicinity, are you sure whatever your doing is worth it?”
*Insert nightmare fuel roar here*
What’s the first thing you think of when you hear the words, Subnautica? Me water
@@aidangilman9190 🐟 FIsh
@@zombum306 fair
Yeah same lmao, just "water"
@@aidangilman9190 the song "Abandon Ship"
Leviathan
You're mischaracterizing Alan. Firstly, he's of species that operate on logic much more than emotions they have quite a bad grasp of. They don't even know what music is and don't understand it. He expected the sea dragon to get sad or mad (whatever that is, he's not sure) for losing an egg but never expected it to get so triggered it would somehow stalk them all the way to lost river, ghosts' territory. Secondly, the facility walls were made with leviathans in mind, they were supposed to withstand anyone's attack, but the enraged dragon overcame the odds (and died right after, if i'm not mistaken). Basically his only, albeit crucial, mistake is he never bothered to understand emotions of emotionally driven creatures, but he's not stupid. And he actively makes up for that mistake. As for why he got contained in the cube, iirc there were others, its just that his cube's power source survived slightly longer. I'm not sure about the last part though, its been a while since I played the game. In any case, he's the lead scientist, the one with most knowledge, so it makes sense for him to get the cube storage even if it was the only one.
Awesome
@@Soundwave1900 I fucking love AL-AN, he singlehandedly made below zero plot ten times more interesting
I don't think he's mischaraterizing him it's just that for someone so smart it was bit of a dumb move
@@emonn6416did you just skip everything he said after that first sentence?
@@lukas4915 he was a literal genius who out grew his own body because of it, yet didn't understand emotions past the the basic of basics. He was an idiot plain and simple.
26:30 dont forget there is an alternative ending for the sunbeam where if you do deactivate the gun prior to answering the radio the sunbeam will tell you that the debris field is to much and they must leave thus technically saving the sunbeam but still requiring you to make the rocket anyways
I like how this debris field is not forgotten when you leave. Causing some damage on the way out.
billions must watch lore
Lol
Yes
Billions must swim
@@Superearthcitizen1 be be eve d r
@@patriot9156 what
Have you ever thought about how the pda acts like in emergency mode, but never tells robin that it is?
i think it's safe to assume that robin put the pda into that mode anticipating that she needs to survive
@Pejgismalt maybe not, as she uses pda of xenowork instead alterra, so she doesn't have any access to any alterra technology and that's why pda is empty
@@ayush.s_36 and think about this. She went there herself, knowing the risks and dangers. When Ryley went there, he was forced there due to the aurora's destruction via the QEP.
@@Abyssal_Blade029 she was fueled by her desires to solve her sisters death, which is pretty stupid since she barely knows anything about scuba diving let alone the planet because if it was real life she would probably die in a few hours, unless she was licensed or something then yeah
Could very easily be chalked up to software changes by Alterra to the PDA between Subnautica and BZ. I mean, look at Clippy.
Everyone always says that it's a second reaper that destroyed the Degasi Grand Reef base, but I will die on the hill that I believe it was a sea dragon for a few reasons.
* Paul refers to it as an "alien kraken". Could he be referring to the mandibles of the Reaper, both in this quote and referring to the "tentacles", just being mistaken? Sure, definitely. But having seen it Grab something, mandibles don't move the same way tentacles would. They're much more rigid compared to a tentacle being more flowy, and noodle-y.
* Paul also says that the "alien kraken" is bigger than a Cyclops. The reaper leviathan is 55 meters (180 ft), where the Cyclops is 54 meters (177 ft). Technically longer, but barely (from a far) , and likely not a big enough difference for someone to make the distinction in a high stress situation. The Sea Dragon, on the other hand, is 112 meters(367 ft). SIGNIFICANTLY longer than a Cyclops.
* We know that Sea Dragons hunt Reapers, or at least have in the past, due to there being Reaper skeletons in the inactive lava zone. It's entirely possible that a Sea Dragon was either already hunting the Reaper Maida wounded. OR a Sea Dragon noticed a weakened Reaper that would make an easy meal and went after it. The latter I think is more likely, as I don't think Sea Dragons have the brain power to wait until Maida got it back to the base, and it would surely have no issue catching up to her.
* The sound we hear in the PDA Log when the Degasi base gets attacked does NOT sound like a Reaper to me. It sounds much more like a Sea Dragon and feels like the game's way of eluding to them before the player had seen them yet. The player had likely already seen (had definitely already heard) a Reaper leviathan, and could have potentially already seen a Ghost, since there are adults in the Grand Reef. If the player had heard both of these already and is now hearing a PDA of a reportedly MASSIVE leviathan whose roar the player hasn't even heard yet, it'd be a great device to instill fear as to what the hell could be deeper.
* We see other Reapers near one another, but never attack one another, suggesting Reaper Leviathans don't typically partake in cannibalism.
* Final point why I think it's a Sea Dragon - There are a few Lost River entrances that are big enough to fit a Sea Moth, the Grand Reef is one of those entrances, so it's likely this, and the Mountains Entrance, are the ones the Sea Dragons use to go out to find Reapers to drag back to the inactive lava zone, so a Sea Dragon could have been nearby.
There are definitely a few gameplay functions that make this debunkable - We never see a Sea Dragon hold/grab anything with its tentacles. We never see a Sea Dragon out in the Grand Reef, while the Crag Fields/Crash Site isn't too terribly far from the Grand Reef. It's MUCH less believable that Maida would not only be able to puncture the Sea Dragon's lava-proof skin with a dinky piece of metal, but also fight it off so it doesn't eat her. It's already a bit of a stretch to believe one woman could take on a Reaper with a knife and a dream.
All in all, FANTASTIC video, please don't get the idea that I didn't enjoy it, I'm just a HUGE nerd and deeply interested when it comes to Subnautica lore and spent a good 20-30 minutes of my first playthrough just listening to that one PDA log of the Degasi getting attacked and listening to Reaper Roars because I wasn't sure what I was hearing lol I LOVE Subnautica lore, and gladly take the chance to ramble on about it for several paragraphs xD
very good interpretation! honestly i feel like the logs were intended to be about a sea dragon when the devs changed it halfway through, there's so many plot holes when paul describes the leviathan
bz kinda confirmed that it was a reaper, but the logs definitely feel like they're describing a sea dragon more, especially with the tentacles part, glad you enjoyed the video!
@@lapisfluff Marg COULD have sailed off on the reaper she brought back that was already wounded, but I agree this would still have plot holes - why wouldn't a sea dragon, just yoink it from her as she drifted off on it? The only theory I could come up with to support it is that somehow she got to the void with the heavily wounded/dead reaper, so the dragon left them alone, not wanting to venture into the void, but that's a stretch. I could totally see it being a half-way development thing where it initially was meant to be a dragon but there was too much conflict with the idea, so they were just like "nah nevermind, reaper." but didn't change the description or sound in the PDA logs. I'm glad you liked my interpretation! It's not often I get to geek out with someone as interested in the lore as me :D
@@HadalMoth
Point 1:
Okay, so you have a point with the lines:
"Came out of nowhere. An alien *kraken*, bigger than a Cyclops."
"Just as its *tentacles* came within reach, Maida appeared out of nowhere."
I think "kraken" by the point of 2341, has likely evolved into a word for "Sea monster" not an actual kraken, although I could be over analyzing that.
But maida obviously as you said couldn't possibly have overpowered a Sea dragon. I seriously don't think the already wounded reaper would just randomly wake up and attack, as aggressive and ready as it seemed.
Your point about a reaper not being able to "grab" things is true, however Paul never mentioned grabbing, only that the monster turned to him. I seriously also doubt that even with the nails, a Sea drag could "tear a hole through the hull" MANDIBLES on the other hand easily could. And also reapers can still grab things remember when it grabbed your Seamoth with said mandibles? Yeah.
Point 2:
So the way Paul describes the monster in HIS LOG definitely I agree sounds like a Sea dragon, no doubt...
As I said though, the meaning of the word "Kraken" can have easily evolved from now to 2341.
I can't actually explain "tentacles"
"Bigger than a cyclops" could be the devs not taking into account high-stress situations, and instead pointing out the accurate size instead.
I think however Paul's log was definitely intended at first to be describing a sea dragon.
Point 3:
Sea dragons have, and probably canonically still hunt reapers. But Maida likely got the reaper from the dunes. (I’ll elaborate during the final point.
Point 4:
Although I like your analogy on what the devs were thinking, the roar was DEFINITELY a reaper.
I compared the roars of the log, a reaper, and a Sea dragon.
The log roars and the reaper roars matched GREATLY both sounding like gut wrenching screams, not a Dragon cry, AT ALL. I literally couldn't hear it. At all. Definitely didn't sound like a dragon to me.
BUUUUT maybe Simon Chylinski actually misunderstood the assignment from Tom Jubert, and consequently so did the BZ writers. (Tom had left)
I do think it could have been originally intended to be a dragon.
Point 5:
Obviously Reapers don't cannibalize each other. But personally I think the other one was driven more by "Hey! That's my family!" Rather than "Oooh, look! Free food."
Reapers may not be too intelligent, or have any real feelings or attachments, but I think being a species would give them pure instincts to protect, or at least help each other in danger.
Point 6 Final:
The only entrance I see a Sea dragon using is the Lost River/Mountains junction tunnel. It leads straight to a reaper habitat, and is a very easy exit/entrance for the dragons to the Lava Zones.
The other lost river entrances sure are close to the dunes, but again I don't think the dragons would use such entrances because A. The Dragons are too big (The Trench) B. They probably aren't smart enough, or are too smart, to use an entrance leading to a non-reaper habitat directly. And I see the dragons LEAST of all using the grand-reef entrance.
You'd be definitely correct with the Mountains entrance. But the Grand Reef? Nah. Another exit taking a while to get to, leading to another tight cave (Deep Grand Reef), and also another non-reaper habitat further out. I don't think they'd come this way. Besides, the Crash Zone, is the closest biome and still isn't close enough. Maybe the Blood Kelp Trench, being right next to the dunes, but also very tight.
@@Uuan1000
P1. Fair, the meaning of the word could very well have changed/its usage widened. I wasn't meaning that Reapers can't grab, they very much can lol Moreso that the DRAGONS aren't seen grabbing with their tentacles, and the way a tentacle would grab something vs a mandible grabbing something would look different, but again, high stress sitch. You're right, a dragon wouldn't likely TEAR its way through a base, but it could Bash its way through a base, like it did when the precursors yoinked one of its eggs.
P2. I could believe the high stress situation making him blow the proportions *out of the water* (hehe) I could also believe that it was originally intended to be a Dragon but the devs scrapped that idea, so I don't have much to say to your point here, I just generally agree :D
P3. While I definitely think it's possible she grabbed the reaper from the Dunes, imo its more likely that she would have grabbed it from the crash site since it's much closer. Grabbing it from the crash site also lends itself more to the idea that it was originally a dragon and the idea was scrapped due to their originally being a presumed entrance to the Lava Zone near the crash site that was also scrapped by the devs (look into the Hell Hole, if you're not familiar. It's some pretty cool lore of the game development itself)
P4. ngl this part is a STRONG Mandela effect for me. I remember going back and forth for at LEAST an hour, playing the audio clip in game and playing reaper/dragon sounds via the wiki. I remember it not sounding ANYTHING like a Reaper and strongly resembling a Dragon. Going through and listening to YT videos with all the clips, I find myself agreeing with you. That's straight up a Reaper. Idk if the audio quality was just different in my game for some reason, or what but I For Sure remember it sounding so similar to a dragon. Some videos state that the logs they cover are "new voice acting" but these videos were posted 5yrs ago. I first played in 2022 so there's no way I heard the "old" voice logs. Super weird to me, but either way, you're right, the voice log definitely sounds like a Reaper.
P5. I could get behind the idea that Maida happened to grab the young of another Reaper, this would also add a nice mirror to Maida inadvertently sabotaging the Degasi crew by stealing the young of a leviathan the same way the precursors did with the Sea Dragon egg. I'd be more inclined to believe the "that's my baby!" than "that's my general kin" as both the Dunes and the Crash Site are plentiful with Reapers, so I feel like if it were just a "don't touch my kind" thing that more than just the one would come to defend it.
P6. I personally could see a Dragon using the trench exit/entrance even though it'd be a tight squeeze. The mountains is definitely the easiest for a dragon to use - big, right next to a healthy supply of Reapers, so close you can hear them when you enter the lost river this way. If we're working on the idea that was INITIALLY a Sea Dragon, and the idea was scrapped and replaced with a Reaper, I'm most inclined to then believe the Hell Hole entrance would be the one that was used. It's a hole right to the Lava Zone, where a bunch of Reapers would be, maybe even more than the Dunes/Mountains before the Aurora squished em. It's also pretty close to the Mountains, so this could have meant that the dragons could use either entrance to get to generally the same area in the lava lakes. Currently, there isn't an entrance to the Lava Lakes that doesn't house at least one Ghost. We could either assume that Ghosts and Dragons don't really bother each other, but I don't believe that. Ghosts generally feed on smaller creatures, becoming filter feeders when they get big enough and move out into the void, however they're extremely territorial, so I don't think they'd be chill with a Sea Dragon poking its nose in their area.
All in all, I don't think the few sea dragons left are long for the world of 4546B, especially with the Aurora potentially covering/destroying their primary way of getting food. It's definitely a Reaper that attacks the Degasi base in the game we currently have, after re-listening to the voice logs, but I'm still hanging on the idea that it was originally intended to be a dragon and the idea was scrapped lol
@@HadalMoth Yeah Ik about the hell hole, listen I am a Subnautica VETERAN... By that I mean have been in love with the game since the Pre-Alpha...
The hell hole however, to my knowledge was scrapped before the Degasi even existed, so I don't think that stands up. And also, I don't think it canonically existed in the current Subnautica, because otherwise we'd be able to access it from the lava zone, but there is no hole leading from the lava zone to an Aurora bottom.
I see what you did there... Blew it out of the water...
I like the idea of it being a baby, a full size reaper would be pretty hard to tow.
That last one about Dragons and Ghosts... I think that has more to do with an in-game hole, more than anything we're talking about... But that is true, perhaps Ghosts are just scared of 'em.
Also, I don't understand why you included grabbing in the first place, I'm sure both Reapers and Sea Dragons could grab, but neither of the "Disaster" Or "The End" logs mention grabbing.
Lastly... Why does EVERYONE end friendly comments with lol? 😂
I'm pretty sure you can find a Sea Emperor Leviathan in Sector Zero, this would likely be one of the Big Momma's kids since they were supposed to spread out and spread the Enzyme, thats probably how Robin's sister got the cure to the Kharaa
@@jeremiahwarren2812 Not really. There were several Leviathan Emperors floating around in sector zero, but that was in the old version of the plot. They are not in the new one. And later we can get a blueprint for an enzyme that is literally made up of two easily accessible components (ha-ha, super-developed beings couldn't recreate the enzyme, despite their technological and not only superiority, and a species that is inferior to them in everything (humans) could, ha-ha-ha, not funny, I think there's a plot hole here, sorry)
@@aaa334-80 The two items that you need to make the enzyme were just there so you didn’t soft block yourself out of curing the creature
@@The_Cloak_ Ah, so that's why. But, I still think it looks a little strange that creatures much more advanced than humans couldn't synthesize the enzyme, while humans could.
@@aaa334-80 maybe humans reversed engineered it? The Architects could have definitely done it if they had the better enzyme 42. So maybe humans found enzyme 42 from the crash site, reverse engineered it and then spread it out to sector zero (before the leviathan was unfrozen). Or maybe one of the baby Sea Emperors swam there when it grew up.
@@ThatOneGuy__729 It's quite possible. Especially since this could explain why people even have a recipe for this enzyme. I also have a theory that they took the enzyme blueprint from Riley's PDA and found similar plants in biocomposition on sector zero. But, unfortunately, neither the first nor the second theory is mentioned in the game. Therefore, purely from a plot point of view, we were left without an answer as to how people were able to synthesize this enzyme at all.
21:12-21:25 I always found that to be one of the most chilling dialogues I’ve ever heard. In my opinion is the perfect way for them to end that storyline, just solidifying that they failed. That is the words of a man who knows that he’s already dead, but still trying to be at peace with it which is what makes it so incredible. Amazing voice acting right there.
“What’s the first thing you think of when you hear the word ‘Subnautica’?”
Me: scary wAter
@@EzekEyes I said pain
I said scary Big fish
WATER, put the LEVIATHAN away WATER, i'm not going near that thing WATER.
My dumb ass brain: W A T E R
I think Riley was an important asset just to execute. Although who knows… my personal version is that he got promoted or made captain of an Alterra ship or something like that 🤷🏻♂️ I hope
He had so much alterra debt they executed the poor guy unless he was like a alterra credit billionaire
@@lam1700Riley's incredibly valuable information and efforts that Led to probably tens of trillions in profits thanks to sector 0 and The Crater (wich I still bet is going to be at least implied to have been revisited in Subnautica 2) would probably have paid off his debts
There is something that makes the first Subnautica and the second one so vastly different (and because of the major plot difference of the architects direct interference with the plot) is that the first game had so much more mystery to it. I actually liked how we didn't have the architects in the story like Al-an, but we are left remnants of it. Artifacts of the past. It's so interesting to piece together what happened to them by exploring the biomes. Both Subnautica's are superb when it comes to its adventure & world building, but the first one is just so good. The mystery in fear, wonder, and survival. So peak.
TBH the first thing I think about when visiting a game is the lore of it. Its one of the biggest points of intrest for me. When I saw that Subnautica had such a large amount of lore to it, that I didnt have to go searching for, I was immediately intrigued towards what it had to offer
So real literally every game I play i try my hardest to learn the lore
You forgot to say that they didn't care about finding the degasi. They just wanted to "attempt" to find it so they can be done with it. And when the scanners found a "strange object at the planets surface" (most likely the big gun) officer keen said and I quote "turn that recorder off"
0:10 Water😊
SAME LOL
Honestly I love that they talked about Alterra messing with the Khaara bacterium, and the worry about bioweapon. It's fun given the other game made where it does in fact become a bioweapon and it has already been confirmed those games are in the future of the Subnautica universe
22:36 I like that Bart kinda considers Maida a friend(idk what the term I’m looking for is) by saying it’s reassuring he’s gonna join her
i know this is probably not what subnautica 2 will be, but i want a spinoff game of robin and al-an being bad bitches and laying low in an architect city, robin discovering all new things about their culture while al-an makes amends and tries to start giving vaccines or something. This is so different from the other subnautica games so i think it is unlikely but i would love it so much.
Subnautica: architect edition (guns included) should be a spinoff game as well, but we can only hope
Me too! Though that idea for a game is subject to about 50,000 different opinions of what the story should be like, and probably some complainers who just don't like anything, but keep playing the games and complaining about them. 😉
Grand theft auto subnautica
I do believe Alterra makes bases in the crater because you can find posters of Reaper Leviathans in Below Zero. So that means they've come in contact with them, and we know they aren't located in Sector Zero. It at least confirms they've been to other regions of the planet, if anything.
"what is the first thing you think of when you hear 'subnautica'?"
my dumb ahh: water
why did you scream mid sentence? does water scare you?
@@FayinKay do YOU not feel fear when gazing into a pool of the same substance you yourself mostly are? does ice not feel the same fear as I do when gazing into the ocean?
@@FayinKay "ahh" is meant to substitute "ass" so it's grammatically correct at the very least
this is such a good lore video. I've played through both games, and was looking for a recap. this was exactly what I wanted
I saw some dumb TH-cam short that was like "there's no evidence earth exists in the Subnautica universe, what if it actually got destroyed or something!" And I'm like... did you play the game? Or read the lore?
yeah that stuff seems to be false, if the data entries i found are to be considered canon earth is alive and well under the sol transgov in the subnautica universe
You’re on TH-cam too much. Get a life loser
@@lapisfluff however, dolphins aren’t :(
@@amalgasoul5794dolphins went “so long and thanks for all the fish”
1:45 but didn’t AL-AN say in Below Zero that it was him and a team of Architects that brought the disease to the planet in order to research it and not that they found it like we assume from the first game?
@@TheGlobadier I think that was also said in the first game.
The video i was looking for! Thank you.
In my gameplay canon. I stayed in the planet after curing myself. There's no way I'm going back to alterra.
HOLY MOLY IT WAS SUBSTANTIALLY SIZED!!! good job lapis!
This is a great video it deserves more support!
22:39 HE SAID THE THING
In AL ANS defense i think he was genuinely desperate since by the time he stole the eggs. I headcanon (to make this all make more sense) that the core worlds were going dark as entire planets died off and his species was near extinction. He essentially said "now or never"
This was incredibly made. Give this video a like and share. Props on the incredible effort put into this. Subnautica is such a hidden gem. Cant wait for a movie.
this was just fantastic. i have been fascinated with subnautica for years now. thank you for putting the whole lore into a video it shines new light on what the game is all about
this is the best video explaining the subnautica lore i have ever seen. Great job man
I love Subnautica for so many reasons, but the nature of Alterra and its parallels to the US MIC is just chef’s kiss.
33:36 for a while the juvenile sea emperors where on an area in subnautica below zero before getting scrapped out of the game so i guess u could assume she got it from them 🤔
yup, during early access youd find some juvenile emprors in the area near the glow whales i think, releasing enzyme into the water and asking you to play, referencing their mom's line in the first game
Wait they removed that? That sucks
OH YEAH I CAN ALREADY TELL THIS IS GONNA BE GOOOOOOOOOOOD!!
Btw the architects were insane they had a bomb capable of desorying a solar system and the bomb was the size of a baseball
30:49 I don’t think alters killing Riley would be a very good explanation lore wise. As it feels like it would completely diminish your efforts and feeling of accomplishment from the first game. Especially since Riley was silent most people could ascribe themselves too him and I feel it would be a real kick in the nuts, oh you know that guy that you saw this beautiful and wondrous world for the first time through and put massive amounts of efforts so you could escape the dire situation you’d been forced into? Yeah well dead.
ya and curing the disease would have to give him some value
Often goes unnoticed but why does Riley owe Altera any money at all.?
Lifepod rental.? He has made everything he uses by building the items using molecular samples from natural materials, flotsam & jetsam (Scrap) that he found lying around the place, on a workbench powered by the sun which plucked atoms from the air to replicate the item he needed. Leading to the philosophical question of..
Will there ever be a time survival won't revolve around cash.? Lol.
I think it's because Alterra "owns" the planet
The PDA said when you first collect diamonds (or gold I don't remember) that any resources you collect or use to make items are property of the Alterra corporation and you will have to reimburse them if you get back
what goose said: every material you use to build, everything you do build, even the plants and animals you eat...all of it gets tallied against you for "unauthorized access to Alterra resources."
So you eating a Peeper counts as a luxury equivalent of eating an unnamed Earth fish, and is put against your debt accordingly.
The first time I played, I brought back fish samples with me for roleplay reasons. They might have been my Riley's only hope. Though honestly looking back at things, it was likely use of the Ion Cubes and alien tech that truly sets off your debt counter.
@@GeneGear thanks and that explains even more about why you owe 1 trillion credits
I'd like other games in other planets from this universe. For example: some gas planets where you are left on some floating isles building your own cloud city etc...
@@Monsterfiluto_23 I’d totally make that a Lando Calrissian roleplay
This is so good and accurate, can you do a video specific for the kharaa bacterium?
won't rule it out ;)
0:13 ERA!!!
The plot of the Mercury could easily be its own horror game. Imagine being stuck in a frozen zone on a water covered planet, not having most of the blueprints you'd normally have since you weren't planning on being on the planet, trying to find a way to leave, all while you and everyone else is slowly dying from an unknown disease. When you do finally manage to leave, you get shot down, and that's it for you. The Degasi crew could also be cool, but the story is so linear I don't think it would work well
the degasi crew storyline would be a cool comic book and I will die on this hill
30:58 I heard him and robin teamed up and formed the sea empire’s which fought alterra.
Hearing deep rock galactic music in the background on a subnautica video is not something I thought I needed
Finally a lore video long enough to explain stuff but not to long so i die of old age before the video finishes thank you ❤
Im so excited for subnautica 2, i didn't get to do a blind playthrough for the original and below zero
33:34 in earlier builds of the game, you could find the grown up sea emporer jeuvuniles, the story was likely writin with this in mind. However they got scrapped in the later builds
Can’t wait for Subnautica 2 lore
Pro tip for stalker teeth, get a grav trap, 2 or 3 scrap metal, and drop it all next to stalkers. Grav trap will keep the scrap metal from being pulled away for the most part, and will pull stalkers closer. The stalkers will continually strike at the scrap, and you just have to wait under it for teeth to fall, got like 15 or 16 of em in 5mins.
this could easily be made a movie and it would be awesome. thanks for the nice video . nice job. :)
Oh fuck bro is cooking
I feel bad for Bart, man. I feel like he would have been able to reach the emperor eventually if he didn't focus on research.
I'm so in love with this game that I can't explain and a huge part of it is the story. Thank you so much for uploading this! ♥️
great video lapis, as always
Watching this, I realized I only did one third of what you can do in below zero (I went straight to building Al-An's body and completing the game) and wondering why it was so short...
This video will hit hard especially after watching subnautica 2 trailer
When i think of Subnautica I think of the sea emperor mother leviathan. I love how they made her gentle even though she's the biggest leviathan we see. I hope there is some sort of tribute to her story in Subnautica 2. Very excited to see what the game has in store as Subnautica is one of my all time favorites. Thanks for the great video! ❤
YOU DROPPED IT YESSS
20:16 man you know how scared I’d be seeing a reaper in the grand reef? Especially in that little cave area which is mostly pretty safe and he’s just not supposed to be there
amazing video man, first time ive seen your content as well.
I have the theory that the reginald and gary fishes are named by bart honoring or Marguerite mocking some crewmates from the degasi
30:51 imagine curing a entire planet then deactivating a alien weapon and finally getting back home just to get executed?
Nah I don’t think they executed him
great vid. not boring not overly edited. very noice
"i cannot see the sky"
genuinely chilling
I have a question. What's the year that the altera invented the first waterproof swinging door? 😅❤
The sunbeam and aurora exploding is the most beautiful thing ive ever seen in subnautica
As someone who preferred the beta below zero lore I hope you included something about it in this vid
when did i include it? as far as i know i included the current canon storyline, not trying to be rude im just clueless lmfao
@@lapisfluffyes you included the canon story line very well, good job on the video! Flow was very nice, audio well balanced and the visuals quite fitting. Only thing for me is around 29:40 the sea emp noises and quiet was a little too long but it wasnt too bad
@@lapisfluff so for a while in early access there was a different story for Below Zero in which Sam was still alive and helping you throughout the story and Marguerite didn't feel so random because she played a big role in fighting the (only) real villain of the story in alterra corp, as well as getting you off the planet. I can't remember everything as i tend to fill plotholes or undeveloped parts with headcanon but i think Sam was even used as leverage against you and seemed conflicted about your actions.
anyways: you should probably still be able to find early access builds on the internet and a couple youtubers like the last bacon, the unknown and exernox made videos about the early access story as it was
@@SkyKing1225 if i remember correctly once you disable some kind of spy beacon is when she “ conveniently” remembers Sam
At 2:44 when u say it’s in a “unknown galaxy” we can infer that this is the andromeda galaxy due to when sunbeam said that they were on the other side of the andromeda galaxy
2:45 the reason the precursors (another word for the architects) had built this gun to shoot ships entering or exiting was because of how contagious kharaa is, and they couldn’t even risk letting ships in the atmosphere of the planet leave as it would very well mean the end of all alien and human civilizations alike.
20:07 the reason this reaper came was very unlikely to avenge its friend who Marguerite killed as if you somehow scan one the pda will let you know that to evolve the way they did they sacrificed nearly all their intelligence for brawn, and as a result aren’t the smartest. The reaper probably forgot about the other one as soon as it died. But then why are there no reapers in the grand reef today? It’s the same reason there’s so many near the aurora- one of their features is sonar, and when the aurora crashed several reapers thought the large explosion was sound waves bouncing back on whatever they were hunting, and impulsively moved to the new environment. Also if I recall the dunes is faraway from the crash zone which I believe, if I remember it being on the other side of the crater, to be the reason little to none of the reapers in the dunes heard the explosion and didn’t leave their habitat. If a few reapers from most biomes journeyed to the aurora however, you may be thinking there should be more reapers and i definetely cannot blame you. Many likely died from the radiation, and due to the excessive amounts of sandsharks in the crash zone, the skeletons were likely buried faster than most biomes erosion due to sandsharks ability to constantly kick up dust to camouflage themselves having a side effect of making them practically the main source of erosion wherever they live. Also in the same log,
22:25, him saying the others were part of the ecosystem was even more evidence of a previous moment in the video where it was hypothesized that he was talked to by the sea emperor leviathan. This is because of her personality, and always loving to share information, especially in poetic form like when she explains to Riley about the precursors building a facility around her. But what does this have to do with becoming part of an ecosystem? The sea emperor likely shared to Bart about her religious ideas of reincarnation which we know she has as he states possibilities for what she might be when or if she meets you again after death. Bart probably got the idea of reincarnating as an alien of 4546b from the sea emperor.
better start preparing for part 2 of this video mr.creator
He’s got around 2 years till full release
@ yea that is why i said „start preparing for” not start making
I loved the lore of the architects so below zero is one of my favs wish we could get a game exploring there planet
15:49 a timestamp for myself
Super underrated video I thought I knew alot about subnautica but I learned alot, I cant wait for subnautica 2
How is this not being picked up for the coolest sci-fi series ever?
I want Unkown Worlds to make three prequel games, one for the Mercury II, one for the Degasi, and one where we play through the events of AL-AN making the decisions that led to the first game (Sea emperor’s containment, construction of the QEP, Sea Dragon Massacre, etc) they really cooked with the original game, especially with all the information we get about what happened to the Architects and the Degasi, with all that lore they could make, as previously mentioned, three New Prequel games for the franchise, which means that including Subnautica 2, not counting any potential games after, there would be 5 Subnautica games, which would truly make it a franchise in opinion.
And if one of the devs or someone who can contact the devs reads this, let me save Unknown Worlds the trouble of picking names:
1. Subnautica: Mercury
2. Subnautica: The Degasi
3. Subnautica: Precursor
Your welcome Unknown worlds
Please carry this on once subnautica 2 comes out!
Now it's time to wait about the new lore in subnautica 2 next year
I love subnauticas lore so i instantly clicked (also I am so confused with BZ because like instructions are so unclear and the parts take so much time for al-an to tell you what to do)
I like the Deep Rock Galactic music in the background. Really suits the vibe. Rock and stone!!!
The horrifying realisation that I'll have to go to the crash ship to get the parts to make decent progress. Reapers scare the .... out of me. I'm not made for this.
this is peak subnautica lore this is the first time I saw you channel and halfway through i realised this channel DESERVES A MILLION SUBS
0:32 hmmm 🤔 did I hear subnatica 2 oh nah ima bout to buy below zero again and play it and finish it myself but can someone or can you explain or confirm that the devs are working on subnatica 2 cuh if so 😩
Yes, the devs confirmed a “subnautica 3”, using time capsules in the first subnautica to give in game photos for subnautica 3
Guess what?
Amazing video! I enjoyed it a lot!
Although I thought Subnautica's lore was very consistent, logical and well-crafted while not being too over the top, your video made me realize that the events that took place when the Precursors settled at 4546B up until the outbreak aren't really that consistent and logical...
I guess some oversights can be justified. For example, you could argue that the half robotic half biologically perfect Precursors were killed by Kharaa because their biological parts weren't prepared to face the sickness, but I don't really buy it...
These mistakes don't make the story that we don't see in-game downright bad, but a little more implausible than I thought before watching your video. I still think that the Subnautica universe has great lore and you presented it super well in your video, yet you also made me think about the tiniest inconsistencies that I too had overlooked during my playthroughs.
Again, amazing video and thank you! Have a nice new year!
When I hear subnautica I think “WHAT THE **** IS THAT AWFUL CREATURE”
I have been looking for a video that explains it all, and this is just it! Thanks for making it, it must have taken a lot of effort
0:45 not gonna be a problem because I played both like 3-4 times😅
Lapis:“What do you think of when you hear subnuatica” me:”water”
0:05 what comes to mind is no autosave and constant crashes and lost progress
Dude watching this makes me realize how much I missed and how much easier gameplay would’ve been if I picked up on things like the maps in below zero
Marguerit was born to inherit the stars
Well done.
Many younger players of this game series don't know how this story was developed. When the game first appeared in early access, there was no "lore" at all. The developers were simply trying to make the game mechanics work. Many popular TH-cam players did a LOT of speculating on what the story might be even though there was no indication that a story was even planned. The first attempt to create a story was the Degasi story line. It wasn't voiced and only marginally revealed in PDA texts. It was disjointed, confusing and contradictory, and didn't follow the final story of Paul, Maida, and Bart. Many gamers still persisted in their speculations that the planet had been inhabited by an older race of beings that somehow had been wiped out, possibly by global flooding. Eventually the developers introduced the buildings of the Architects and a hint at their technology but no explanation of who they were or what they had been doing. During this time, still in Beta, the Degasi story was cleaned up, voiced, and we finally knew what had happened. It seemed that the three had met the same but separate fates. The story of the Degasi ultimately had no effect on how you played the game.
The next stage in story development was designed to hand hold the player through the game progression and the series of Arora escape pod messages was developed. Each pod investigated led the player through a logical progress of tech development and finally to the discovery of the Architects' main lab - still with no explanation as to who or what they were, just an ancient race that had disappeared long ago. The full story of the Architects wasn't presented until 2018 when the game was fully released, some four years after the early access release in 2014.
Generally speaking this is probably the WORST way to develop a story driven game. Only a few games have achieved success by writing a story to fit the game play long after people have been playing the game without a coherent story.
Damn… even the lore has lore.
you sound like a profesional talking in a documantary video.your a good lore explainer.
I have a theory for why she could make the cure at 33:32. It is a mutated kharaa so maybe the mutated kharaa is more susceptible to cures than the regular kharaa. That is my theory why Sam was able to make the cure.