Sell miller, boeser, garland, schenn, myers and OEL all for picks and Tank for a chance at bedard! Oh don't forget to sign horvat! Let's rebuild to win 🏆 💪
Out: Horvat, Boeser. (Replace with Podkolzin and Hoglander). Return: Dmen only. Prospects or players. Build the team around Demko + dcore. OPTIONAL: Hughes to NJD (he deserves to play in the playoffs with his brothers. His talent wasted here is a crime.) For one of their high value forwards.
@@kpax45 Benning was a mistake, Willie did decent in his first year but afterwards, Willie couldn’t keep the sqaud together as he did in his first season.
JR’s response to Drance around the 33 minute mark was the first thing he said that was 100% right. There are good players, but they haven’t become a team. The problem is they commit and double down on these guys who continue not to gel as a team…
I'm not surprised at all. Both Green and Benning was high on internal competition and how it's a good thing if every player is fighting for a spot. I guess that mindset sits in the walls. This mindset is totally opposite to what Boston is doing. Bruins have zero tolerance over locker room attics. Everybody in the team supports each other. Then they are total ass holes to anyone outside the team... Boston is not only the top team in the league, it's probably the only that hasn't made a rebuild in recent times.
No mention of gino odjicks passing? A very important person to the organization in the past and not a glance in this discussion. No question from any reporter either. Very big problems with this organization.
Sadly, it speaks to the lack of class in the culture of this organization. An emotionally fragile team, hanging their hopes on players with toxic personalities like JT Miller instead of Bo. I’m not even a Canucks fan, but I’m watching this as a Hockey fan in Calgary, and am disgusted by how the Vancouver fan base and the history of this organization is being taken for granted and disrespected.
The Canucks medical staff has a history of misdiagnosing players going as far back as Cody Hodgson. A failure by the Canucks medical staff that ruined a young man's career. I hope they changed the medical staff because the Canucks history of injuries from Salo to Boeser and Tanev. It's not a coincidence we have had such horrible history. Rutherford is new here. Our problems with players getting injured all the time has been going on for a long time.
JR's a germaphobe. He didn't even travel with the Pens to the bubble in Toronto during pandemic playoffs. No way he was going hand on hand with the Dr LOL.
@@kpax45 Good plan. Lock yourself in your basement for the remainder of the year and get 27 boosters.....that will prevent the virus.... and destroy your mental health. Paranoia will destroy ya'.
Love the transparency. Even if the franchise is not where we want it to be, im glad JR is able to speak openly and clearly about what's going on behind the scenes.
This is wild that Jim is being so candid and stayed for so long to answer all these tough questions. I got faith in JR. The contracts we gave him to deal with aren't his fault. We unfortunately have to test our patience further more to let them do their job as its unfair to access their work yet. Blame the contracts! Only in retrospect are people complaining about the Miller extension. At the time it was the right move, and it may still be the right move.
It wasn't the right move at the time either. He would have brought back assets and the canucks were out of a playoff spot. It was a dumb move. Signing Mykhehev also a dumb move. These guys are continuing the same direction benning was on. Miller will be a buyout candidate in 3-5 years. And now talk of a kuzmenko extension..... Why would you extend kuzmenko when once again you can get possibly a 1st or 2nd round pick for him??
@@MrRbirdy17 How do you know all these draft picks and assets were/are being offered? They weren't getting offers and they had to sign one of them. The only thing they got wrong was the term.
The Canucks are in a tough spot. Lots of good pieces on the roster no doubt, but the cap really holds them back. Crazy to see them score so many goals & lose so many games. At least the losses have been entertaining LOL!
Yeah that’s fair to say he was definitely not playing like himself in the small amount of games he played, but when he’s himself he’s definitely a game changer.
Hey Dumb dumb!! Our team is brutal not enough pieces is an understatement. We need a full terror down and rebuild -Horvat for the best deal offered this trade deadline Demko to LA for 1st round plus their best prospects Hughes- To the devils for Nemec, 1st rounder and plus plus OEL is a buyout Miller would be a salary dump trade like Pacciorety to the Canes Boeser, maybe the wild can take him with salary retention on our end. Kuzmenko trade for a 1st and prospect Plus our 1st rounder this year Now this would be one hell of start! Tell me I’m wrong
@@richardhughes1685 You cannot trade a player on long term injury, which Demko is so you are wrong there. They could not trade him if they wanted to. I don't like trading him to LA either, better to trade him out of division even out of conference would be better.
This is so true - at least they are entertaining to watch. It would be much worse if they were losing most games by 1-0 scores. Defensively, Ekman-Larsson and Myers are brutal and half the forwards let the opposition dance through center ice unopposed. They are more entertaining than Arizona, Columbus, or Montreal - at least there's that...
This guy Rutherford is past is prime and has no idea what he is doing...He came in and now they are a losing organization..Bruce came here and it was a winner because of Bruce...The owner now is going to have a lot of issues when Bruce goes..Its nuts....Bruce if they don't fire Rutherford and the new GM and offer you an extension and both the GM;s job and the head coach get the hell out of there...What a shame for Bruce....he deserves better for what he has done.....
@@HonkyTonkHellraiser he obviously told the owner what he wanted to hear to get this job..'oh yeah just a couple tweaks and we'll be in the playoffs no prob'.. 'you're hired'!
So he had a press conference to announce that the team is planning on doing more of the same, can’t keep horvat, & that Boudreau’s days are numbered. Thanks for the update tips.
OK, now I see why Vancouver is struggling so bad. I did not understand why this team was not playoff bound with it's talented core of players. Who would play for this guy? Imagine if Yzerman gave a presser like this. Time to clean house at the management level, not the players. I'm almost afraid to watch the Lightning game Wednesday.
I totally agree, they are walking on eggshells with uncertain futures and have low morale. On any given day they are a competitive team and can win. They beat Colorado twice this season in comebacks. They can beat Tampa Bay as well, last time they were a goal short of a great comeback. If they were a little happier they would be more focused and would be winning more games. There is very little separating success from failure in the NHL. I blame the owners and management as well. Spot on.
@allancrow134 Yes they beat the Avs, remember the Avs had all their top line out with injuries= 7 prayers. Why is Rutherford doing damage control, is it to prepare fans trade deadline players will be traded for draft picks.
NOt impressed in the slightest with this management group. Talk and talk but little actually being said. And the way old father time JR is treating Bruce is borderline criminal. There are serious issues with this org at the moment, and JR seems too linked with Pittsburgh to know he's not there anymore. Bringing in the Canucks current GM, who had never held a GM position beforehand, and looking at the new possible coach - all coming from the burgh. WTF. His overall arrogance about what he obviously thought was easy when he came here: dumping contracts to free up cap space didn't look good when it wasn't as easy as he thought. My understanding is he has a 3 year contract and is already 1/3 of the way through that and done sweet fa about cleaning this mess up, except add a thick veneer of toxicity around the team on to it. And where the hell is PA in all this ... hiding in his hobbit hole? Doesn't seem to be able to do anything meaningful either, except do the publicity stunt of signing Bieksa's one day contract on tv. I'm a Canucks fan, but fear for the short-mid term future of the club with this management group in place.
I give Rutherford a ton of credit for sitting there through a ream of tough questions. Most fair, some unfair. He and the doctors are right about medical confidentiality (which somehow is moot in the NFL - just different country, or do the players sign off on their confidentiality?). Regarding the bad contracts, Jim Benning was a disaster for the team, but the Mikheyev contract is a puzzler. JT Miller's contract would seem to contradict Rutherford's comment that "our offer on the table is fair by Horvat's performance up to this year, but not this year." This indicates that he doesn't want to pay a player based on a career year. But isn't that exactly what he did with JT Miller? Anyway, TONS of credit for JR sitting through that presser. Love the Canucks.
They keep going on about clearing cap space. What are they going to do with that space? Go and acquire more big money contracts? This team is not good enough and tinkering around the edges with more Benning-esque contracts isn't going to get it done.
he literally explains his plan to pick up young NHL players who may not have worked out on their original team and then get draft picks. try to keep up
What does that even mean? Let’s not elevate it to the same level as Montreal, Boston or Chicago. A whiny (notice I didn’t say “passionate) fan base and a city of cub journalists doesn’t mean it’s a top Canadian market.
Benning and Linden in their first draft took a guy who's out of the League (as I predicted) over Nylander, Erhlers, Larmer, Fiala, Pasternak, Sanheim, Tuch, Kempe, then with next top six took another guy who's out of the League (as I predicted) over Matt Tkachuk, Chychrun, Sergachev, Keller. Also, kept the Sedins until their 40's, no chance of playoff success, while no top draft picks, that's the only reason Nonis had to trade away franchise goalie for Horvat, and why there was never a rebuild. All the rest, needing 3 new top D, is details.
This team is a joke, the rebuild should have happened right after we got bounced from the first round after making it to the finals. Ownership cares too much about playoff revenue to want to go into a full blow rebuild. Linden wanted to do it, but got the axe. Benning was a yes man that agreed to listen to ownership and saddled us with these horrible contracts not to mention failing to trade the likes of Markstrom, Toffoli and Tanev for assets. Worst GM we've had by far.
Don't forget that the Canucks bad draft picks. Joulevi especially, from the moment he was picked I knew it wasn't the right move. I wanted Vancouver to either get Tkachuk or Sergachev. Also Hoglander and Podkolzin haven't been great either.
@@kpax45 obviously the medical staff responsible for the problem isn't going to say "yeah we mishandled it"...Quinn is obviously concerned for what he's seen first hand to his teammate.
Well I agree that he's frustrated and not a doctor. Look at demko, off season surgery, then injured 15 games into the season. The trend of injuries here doesn't look good for the team doctors. Maybe poor judgment ?
The more they talk, the more it makes me think and believe it is mis-handling and wrong doings by the medical people. Something is definitely going wrong 🔥🔥🔥
@@AJ-ox6yi Yeah, but like… look at teams like Toronto or Tampa, who have had numerous injuries to deal with over the past few years alone. Or god, Colorado this season - they’ve faced a nightmarish amount. Do you see a single player speaking out against the way their team handles injuries and medical care? Short answer; no, you don’t. There’s gotta be something severely messed up about the Canucks medical staff and treatment for multiple people to speak out about it in recent history.
This has been my first year in decades where I've completely stopped watching this team. I don't understand this teams aversion to rebuilding. Same old crap
That’s what should be so sad to hear for any Canucks fan is that the organizational mandate is essentially do the same thing they’ve been doing for almost a decade.
@@dtrain9911 that’s not what I get from most Canucks fans. They seem to have accepted that the team missed its chance to build properly around those guys and that a full rebuild has been necessary since about 2014.
You know after watching this media briefing by JR I am impressed. He knows the inside game of hockey. Pontificators do not know what goes on in managing an NHL team. As a die hard Canucks fan (been with them unequivocally since they entered the NHL) I have ridden the highs and lows of this team. Yes this season has been a bust. There's many elements that contribute to it. But lets give this management team the benefit of time to let their inner experience affect change. Benning has saddled our Canucks with decisions that are long term. Long term contracts that paralyze making the roster changes needed. Recall the Luongo contract that even he said was a ball and chain for him. I long for the days when we signed players to max 3-year contracts and then extended them. Seven plus year contracts do not allow the NHL to see forward movement. Cap space has hampered the league as a whole and it shows in our desire to move some Canuck players. JR admits the number one issue is Cap space to affect positive change in roster/success = wins and making the playoffs. As fans we know it inside us too. What we don't know is what they do on a daily basis to achieve the goals to bring a better roster to the ice. As a fan let's rely less on pontificators and allow patience and belief that things are being done to achieve what we want from this team.
If the Canucks were a blue chip stock, they would have i,p.o.'d' at $20 a share.. and fitfy years later be trading at $30 a share, with at least 3 cuts in the dividend. Dump it and buy a Railroad
What...I'm a die hard canucks fan but there's rational thinking we need to put here. Jimbo 2.0 has done nothing to help our situation, in fact his treatment of Bruce Boudreau from day one is despicable. Canucks house is on fire and Owners are starting to see it, too bad he's too busy with his own kids trying to emancipate from him. In the end, Fans vote by how many tickets are being sold, and it's easy to see the prices are dwindling and the arena is not selling out any time soon.
I’ve been a fan also . Since the beginning. They blew the first choice . I’ve seen live hockey all around the league . The Canucks have always been the most emotionally fragile team I’ve seen .
Canucks fans, this guy will destroy your franchise. The Carolina Hurricanes took over a decade to recover from his poor roster building, The Penguins are now feeling the affects of him purging their minor league system and draft capital, he’ll ruin the Canucks as well. The guy is terrible at building teams for long term success. The Canes did nothing after winning their cup in 05-06, except make one playoff appearance until Rutherford left them after the 13-14 season and he completely set the Penguins back with poor trades after the back to back cups.
i like Jim because he doesnt cave in to a bunch of idiotic media guys. Hes not a fan hes a professional manager. He knows the business and he knows players arent like trading playing cards like most of the media think. There is so much more to running a team then what meets the eye. Glad he spelled some things out. The media still wont listen. Vancouver fans might be dissapointed but its what is best for the team not some guy sitting at home watching the games with a case of beer.
Agreed. Drance and Farhan just complain about the same things and want to get their way, yet have zero clue on how the business is run. JR is a HoFer and this is why. He knows the game inside out.
@@Skittle9651 did you listen to the show Drance is on the one thing he focus on was a sarcastic joke Rutherford made and somehow he made it into something blown out of proportion
So they moved out 32 people and brought in 24 of the wrong people! They do have some really good offensive players, but he said it well, their not a team every night with accountability! It's not just a Miller team or a Peady team, when Garland is your hardest working heart and soul of the team and get zero respect from his team mates when he gets pounded into the boards or blatant punches in the face, yeah it's not a team buying in with grit and determination.
ANY other team would have stood up for their teammate in the exact same situation, yet all canucks, including Horvat, just stand there and stare at the guy? Brutal.
Rutherford talks teambuilding and he wants to sign young players under 25 and he loves the Miller contract. Everything with the Canucks makes so much sense. Oh yes and the players love it here. How can they possible not. Everything is perfect. We have all totally misunderstood everything. There is basically no problem. A few glitches but nothing to worry about. Give Big Jim two years - its the one and only thing Canuks need. Success will follow. So happy now.
Out: Horvat, Boeser. (Replace with Podkolzin and Hoglander). Return: Dmen only. Prospects or players. Build the team around Demko + dcore. OPTIONAL: Hughes to NJD (he deserves to play in the playoffs with his brothers. His talent wasted here is a crime.) For one of their high value forwards.
As a Sabres fan that is also a Canucks fan, the fans there need to have patience and trust a long-term plan that will build a cup winning team. You don't want to make impatient decisions that will only get you knocked out of the 1st round of the playoffs and broke financially. The Sabres rushed 2 rebuilds because everyone wanted to see them win NOW and it caused the longest playoff drought in NHL history. It could take a few years to build a winning team.
Yeah and that means being patient while teams suck really bad. A rookie that scores 5 goals one year might score 30 the next, or just continue sucking. You can't know until you get a large sample size.
22:15 wanting to get canuck players 25 /26 years or younger . What in the hell then . Why did you sign JT then to that 8 year contract . Could of gotten solid 1st round draft pick and high prospect player who would of been way younger than 26 . Harold
Canucks are still dealing with some crummy Benning contracts. When you hear the gm say that they have tried to make trades but nothing has come up. That falls back on the players usually. Benning pushed them to the cap and dried there prospect pool. Until they get the cap down through end of contracts or otherwise. The problem of bennings gm capabilities are still gonna be present until these garbage contracts are done and over with. The team needs to be accountable to themselves. They can play with skill, they just need to honor that with themselves.
Podkolzin and Hoglander still qualify as prospects, don't forget Benning left us with Linus Karlsson. People are giving up on Lekkerimaki too quickly, and we pulled Nils Aman without a hat
@@user-by3nd4rm6cwrong, by all accounts he is a very toxic personality in the locker room. Just look at his on ice antics recently. He is becoming the poster boy for the losing culture of this team.
Vancouver fans know hockey. If you would ask them. They would say keep Boudreau. And get rid of Rutherford. Any President who would call out his coach during a tough patch. After that coach made an heroic run to get into the playoffs a year earlier. And who has had a respectable career in the league over many years. That President needs to go.
I've watched the Canucks all season. They're not as bad as they are made out to be. They are just walking on eggshells because of the constant battering. You can't win championships with low morale. I wish management would lighten up and let them focus on playing the game instead of all the uncertainty and drama.
We have a very solid top 3 lines upfront. Our defense and lack of a goaltender to rely on has killed any chance of us having any consistency. The scores throughout the season have easily reflected that.
When someone says the owners give, us all the tools and are hands off is lying. This guy has done nothing to try to move a guy like Hovat for a few 1st round draft picks. Major surgery is not needed they need to stay out of coaching decisions mamage your gm and get them them the money to make deals. The game has changed on him he needs to just retire. Why would you go with Tochett a guy that never wins. Every comment and non movement is perplexing.
Canucks 2021-22: 40-30-12 (92 pts) 2022-23: 18-22-3 (39 pts to date) Horvat is having a career year, and Pettersson a bounce back season. What's happened, aside from blowing leads in a number of games? Or, is that it?
@@jamesanthony5681 did you ever notice how players seem to have great years the last year in their contract? If I was the Bruins I would trade for him and give Canucks 2 forwards and 2 Def and #5 pick since they the Canucks have is believe picks in each round maybe even 2 4th round picks in 2023.draft
Funny how you can't tell if he had a surgery for medical privacy laws yet 1 year ago I couldn't go in a restaurant to eat because I was unvaccinated thought that was my right to privacy......just saying
The most important person(s) for a hockey team to win and NHL Championship are the General Manager / Owner. The latest was having Caulfield available in the draft day but taking Podkolzin. But check out why Jagr was not a Canuck or why Cam Neely was a Canuck for a cup of coffee. Look back at the Montreal Canadiens when they had Sam Pollock as GM: Cup after Cup after Cup
@@forgetful3360 Using the French Canadian Rule For the first five years of the Amateur draft, from 1963 to 1967, the Canadiens never invoked their French Canadian option. In 1968, the Canadiens saw an opportunity and finally made use of their exclusive right for the first time. They selected goaltender Michel Plasse and a centreman from Montreal named Roger Belisle. Plasse played 32 games for the Habs as a backup goalie and was subsequently lost with no compensation in the 1974 Expansion Draft. Roger Belisle never played a game in the NHL. In 1969, the Canadiens used the French Canadian rule again to select Rejean Houle and Marc Tardif before the other teams drafted in regular order. Although both of these 1969 selections were serviceable NHL’ers, they were hardly the foundation of any future Habs dynasty. Both players were lost to the rival WHA after four seasons with Montreal. Au Revoir to the Rule By 1969, the old sponsorship system had been completely phased out. The NHL voted to eliminate the French Canadian rule, otherwise, the Habs would have been happy to take junior phenom Gilbert Perreault from Victoriaville, Quebec in 1970. Perreault went on to become the foundation of the early Buffalo Sabres’ success. That’s it. From 1970 forward, the Canadians built their most successful teams the old-fashioned way, through wise trades and diligent draft picks. As the league expanded, the newer teams needed skilled players immediately. Still deeply stocked, the Canadiens could afford to give up serviceable players for future draft picks. Other Original Six teams had the same opportunity, but Habs’ general manager Sam Pollock was the master. That’s how he secured Guy Lafleur and other superstars the Canadiens’ of the 1970s employed while grabbing six more Stanley Cups.
Rogers Arena is bad luck place since 1995 till now! move back to old place or build new Arena somw where else! waste time and money! only few good player elias-pettersson, andrei-kuzmenko,bo-horvat,jt-miller , the other and tradeaway. the dumb and stupid move fired Bruce Boudreau!🙄
YOU JUST STARTED! YOU JUST HIRED A NEW GM! Now you are restarting your own "re-tooling". It's pathetic when people in charge have no clue what they are doing.
One more comments - it starts with the fans. Canuck fans are not hockey fans. Not like Edmonton or Calgary. The team and the coaching staff barely needs to try to get the adulation and praise from the public. Fans are too laid back. But if the Florida team can do it, why can't the Canucks do it. I would change the name of the team, change jerseys/colours, change the theme music, Make so many changes, that when the double latte - with added THC, crowd shows up, they won't recognize the place.
Canucks have to change it up, start with that U2 song they play at the start of the game. There is a hypnotic feeling at the arena. The place needs a major reno. Forget the team, change the feeling and look of the arena. We need Chef Ramsay to come in and jump start this dying franchise. I haven't watched a Canuck game for 5 years and I won't until they change. It seems that the accountants only want the same old - same old. The arena reminds me of a small town arena which hasn't see funding for 20 years and still has pictures in the lobby which show the local boys that made it to the WHA 15 years ago.
Omg . Stop already . This guy has had the best medical treatment , money can buy . What a laugh . I’ve needed medical care since covid started , I must wait as I get more ill . Pound sand
At least they seem to be taking things seriously and have somewhat of a plan. It’s hard to do much when no one has cap space, though. It’s easy to say blow it all up, but what teams have the cap room to take on these big contracts? As long as Jim and Patrik have autonomy, that’s what’s important.
@@stentorofsparta3576 Rutherford left the penguins because the owner interfered why come to an organization then that has the owner interfering maybe because he’s not. They guy has won 3 Stanley cups he has plan
@@dtrain9911 oh so you’re saying it was his idea to sign JT Miller long term? Cause I was gonna give Rutherford a pass for that cause I figured it was the owner. But you’re telling me it was all Rutherford. Ok then.
@@stentorofsparta3576 they have a plan you don’t have to like but it’s the plan of a guy who’s won 3 Stanley cup every management group goes through ups and downs especially in year 1 will see where it’s all at in 4 or 5 years
Not a Van. Fan but get rid of Rutherford and Allvin and bring back Linden cause he was right when he tried to tell ownership under his time a rebuild is needed and they apparently didn't listen and he was let go not too long after. Give him that second chance to prove he was right over Allvin and Rutherfords "retool".... long term success over a potential short term gain
I would have such a hard time dealing with these media members. I wish the Bruins reporters would question Sweeney the way these guys are drilling him but it’s easy to pick on medical staff
If they needed major surgery. A huge boon doggle to resign JT. They would need two really good guys back. A young defenseman and another one with potential or draft pick. Attacking the coach months ago wa another boon doggle
I would have started by offering condolences to the Odjick family. I would look to trade Bo for some young prospects/ draft picks, and I wouldn’t reveal ANY details of those negotiations. I wouldn’t have resigned Miller, because his tantrums are toxic. We want a team that is emotional but not immature, and let’s face it- his actions are immature. I’d hire Bieksa as a culture coordinator to nurture a healthy team environment, one where guys are having fun winning. Id educate the players on Canucks history so they understand the TEAM they play for - letting Linden walk was symbolic of the death of this teams identity and culture. I’d treat Bruce with respect until his contract is done or he is let go. This means publicly showing him support even when it feels hard. I would NEVER have said (in reference to the after hours interview) that the team had a bad training camp, they had bad habits, they had no superstar and that he didn’t know Bruce’s contract was a 2 year contract. That added an element of insecurity to the team and was so unnecessary and unsupportive. Maybe theres truth to them, but you don’t need to air all that publicly and at such an early point in the season…In terms of players, sending podz and hogs to Abbotsford was the right move. You have to focus on developing these young players. I’d look to trade Boeser and Garland- they’re great players who aren’t thriving here but will probably do great elsewhere. I’d focus on developing Burroughs over Stillman, because of the heart that Burroughs shows- that’s the kind of influence you want in the locker room. I would be very careful in signing players that didn’t work out on their first teams- I would want to know WHY they didn’t work out and make darn sure it’s not because of a toxic personality. Lastly, everything done with 100% respect and class from the top to bottom. Respect, honour, accountability, genuineness, hard work, dedication, discipline and support of each other would be uncompromisable core values. It’s about winning with integrity. Last thing I’ll say- while I don’t agree with everything JR has said or done, I do give him credit for taking responsibility and fielding these tough questions.
A lot of contradictions made by Rutherford. Is that because he's not clear HIMSELF of the direction of the team moving forward? Also, not great optics overall, bringing out medical staff, who can't answer questions. "We do a good job here. Further than that, we're not at liberty to comment." Yeah, thanks for coming.
A guy who gets up there and 1. Says ownership has not interfered at all 2. Says he made mistakes in thinking he would come in and more quickly move contracts, and 3. Who out and out says something around a 2-3 year timeline for his major surgery to realign/rebuild the team. Some answers. Thank you. That cuts out a lot of the negative hyperbuzz I've been hearing and in which I've participated for the last little while. I will stop my maligning of ownership, for now. Again, thank you Jim. (though, its still gonna be a lot of work to forgive ownership for the 6 purgatorial years that was the Benning era).
If you were running the Canucks, what moves would you make to improve the roster?
Sell miller, boeser, garland, schenn, myers and OEL all for picks and Tank for a chance at bedard! Oh don't forget to sign horvat! Let's rebuild to win 🏆 💪
Rebuild. Make every player available get high draft picks and prospects. Keep Boudreau. Bruce there it is Bruce There it is!!
I would start with Rutherford and Alivin. It was a dumb move of Aqualini to hire a coach before a GM. I would only keep Horvat and Peterssen.
Nothing will work until there's an ownership change. Let's get real
Out: Horvat, Boeser. (Replace with Podkolzin and Hoglander).
Return: Dmen only. Prospects or players.
Build the team around Demko + dcore.
OPTIONAL: Hughes to NJD (he deserves to play in the playoffs with his brothers. His talent wasted here is a crime.) For one of their high value forwards.
Linden allready said we need a serious rebuild... to f'ing late!
Linden also hired Jim Benning and Willie Desjardins! He did not do a great job either!
@@kpax45 Benning was a mistake, Willie did decent in his first year but afterwards, Willie couldn’t keep the sqaud together as he did in his first season.
Sport is not easy
Confidentiality? Oh really? That’s rich given the last two years. Didn’t you hear? People no longer have a right to medical privacy in Canada.
JR’s response to Drance around the 33 minute mark was the first thing he said that was 100% right. There are good players, but they haven’t become a team. The problem is they commit and double down on these guys who continue not to gel as a team…
This regime didnt double down on the current roster, they simply weren't able to move out the players they wanted...yet
I'm not surprised at all. Both Green and Benning was high on internal competition and how it's a good thing if every player is fighting for a spot. I guess that mindset sits in the walls. This mindset is totally opposite to what Boston is doing. Bruins have zero tolerance over locker room attics. Everybody in the team supports each other. Then they are total ass holes to anyone outside the team... Boston is not only the top team in the league, it's probably the only that hasn't made a rebuild in recent times.
@@iettord3124 Benning was NOT high on internal competition. Not that he was against it
@@iettord3124 even the bruin players take contracts that are less them markit value to make the team better
I always forget that Allvin is the GM since Rutherford is front and center more often.
Rutherford's job is more about charting a course for the franchise, Allvin's job is managing the actual assets
There's a problem right there, regardless of Rutherford's resume.
@@gpower Very baseless statement to make
Fire the medical staff
Somewhere Trevor Linden sitting in his couch, eating popcorn, smiling and just thinking "I hate to say I told You so but..".
Laughable franchise.
Player privacy issue with a hand injury? Ok
"Privacy laws regarding medical care"? Where was that when people lost their jobs b/c of the vàxx?
New ownership is their only hope.
No mention of gino odjicks passing? A very important person to the organization in the past and not a glance in this discussion. No question from any reporter either. Very big problems with this organization.
Sadly, it speaks to the lack of class in the culture of this organization. An emotionally fragile team, hanging their hopes on players with toxic personalities like JT Miller instead of Bo. I’m not even a Canucks fan, but I’m watching this as a Hockey fan in Calgary, and am disgusted by how the Vancouver fan base and the history of this organization is being taken for granted and disrespected.
The Canucks medical staff has a history of misdiagnosing players going as far back as Cody Hodgson. A failure by the Canucks medical staff that ruined a young man's career. I hope they changed the medical staff because the Canucks history of injuries from Salo to Boeser and Tanev. It's not a coincidence we have had such horrible history. Rutherford is new here. Our problems with players getting injured all the time has been going on for a long time.
it actually goes back longer than even the 1970's.
Cody Hodgson was no good. Period.
Get rid of eastern loyal admin. Change ownership and keep their nose out of the game.
that awkward handshake between the doc and Jim🤣 19:04
Akward putting it nicely 😭
JR's a germaphobe. He didn't even travel with the Pens to the bubble in Toronto during pandemic playoffs. No way he was going hand on hand with the Dr LOL.
@@Skittle9651 Covid is still around, I do not blame Jim
@@kpax45 Good plan. Lock yourself in your basement for the remainder of the year and get 27 boosters.....that will prevent the virus.... and destroy your mental health. Paranoia will destroy ya'.
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Not happy where we are but Rutherford sat in there, took his shots, answered and did hide. That needs to be said.
Is this all bennings fault?
Love the transparency. Even if the franchise is not where we want it to be, im glad JR is able to speak openly and clearly about what's going on behind the scenes.
@@Mitch-ui8ps Lol, he'll retire when he feels the time is right
This is wild that Jim is being so candid and stayed for so long to answer all these tough questions. I got faith in JR. The contracts we gave him to deal with aren't his fault. We unfortunately have to test our patience further more to let them do their job as its unfair to access their work yet. Blame the contracts! Only in retrospect are people complaining about the Miller extension. At the time it was the right move, and it may still be the right move.
Throwing a popular class act like Boudreau under the boss is Rutherford's fault
@@kpax45 Yeah ill admit I didn't like how he handled the Bruce situation. He said that they're friends in this which is kinda hard to believe lol.
@@420camk I kind of doubt that too. With friends like that you don't need enemies
It wasn't the right move at the time either. He would have brought back assets and the canucks were out of a playoff spot. It was a dumb move. Signing Mykhehev also a dumb move. These guys are continuing the same direction benning was on. Miller will be a buyout candidate in 3-5 years. And now talk of a kuzmenko extension..... Why would you extend kuzmenko when once again you can get possibly a 1st or 2nd round pick for him??
@@MrRbirdy17 How do you know all these draft picks and assets were/are being offered? They weren't getting offers and they had to sign one of them. The only thing they got wrong was the term.
The Canucks are in a tough spot. Lots of good pieces on the roster no doubt, but the cap really holds them back. Crazy to see them score so many goals & lose so many games. At least the losses have been entertaining LOL!
To be fair, they’d be in a far better spot if Demko was playing & playing to his capabilities.
Yeah that’s fair to say he was definitely not playing like himself in the small amount of games he played, but when he’s himself he’s definitely a game changer.
Hey Dumb dumb!! Our team is brutal not enough pieces is an understatement. We need a full terror down and rebuild
-Horvat for the best deal offered this trade deadline
Demko to LA for 1st round plus their best prospects
Hughes- To the devils for Nemec, 1st rounder and plus plus
OEL is a buyout
Miller would be a salary dump trade like Pacciorety to the Canes
Boeser, maybe the wild can take him with salary retention on our end.
Kuzmenko trade for a 1st and prospect
Plus our 1st rounder this year
Now this would be one hell of start!
Tell me I’m wrong
@@richardhughes1685 You cannot trade a player on long term injury, which Demko is so you are wrong there. They could not trade him if they wanted to. I don't like trading him to LA either, better to trade him out of division even out of conference would be better.
This is so true - at least they are entertaining to watch. It would be much worse if they were losing most games by 1-0 scores.
Defensively, Ekman-Larsson and Myers are brutal and half the forwards let the opposition dance through center ice unopposed.
They are more entertaining than Arizona, Columbus, or Montreal - at least there's that...
This guy Rutherford is past is prime and has no idea what he is doing...He came in and now they are a losing organization..Bruce came here and it was a winner because of Bruce...The owner now is going to have a lot of issues when Bruce goes..Its nuts....Bruce if they don't fire Rutherford and the new GM and offer you an extension and both the GM;s job and the head coach get the hell out of there...What a shame for Bruce....he deserves better for what he has done.....
Weird how rutherford came into vancouver thinking the team needed only minor changes..talk about being out of touch.
Exactly my point. The game has passed him by years ago
@@HonkyTonkHellraiser he obviously told the owner what he wanted to hear to get this job..'oh yeah just a couple tweaks and we'll be in the playoffs no prob'..
'you're hired'!
@@brent3611 absolutely I agree
So he had a press conference to announce that the team is planning on doing more of the same, can’t keep horvat, & that Boudreau’s days are numbered. Thanks for the update tips.
I think the main thing was to talk about pearson situation.
This team will completely collapse once Horvat is gone.
@@Loveconcert2006 probably in their best interest.
Team is becoming laughing stock of league. What a depressing year its been. Not much is going according to plan.
@@Loveconcert2006 probably for the best, team needs a good draft pick anyways.
OK, now I see why Vancouver is struggling so bad. I did not understand why this team was not playoff bound with it's talented core of players. Who would play for this guy? Imagine if Yzerman gave a presser like this. Time to clean house at the management level, not the players. I'm almost afraid to watch the Lightning game Wednesday.
I totally agree, they are walking on eggshells with uncertain futures and have low morale. On any given day they are a competitive team and can win. They beat Colorado twice this season in comebacks. They can beat Tampa Bay as well, last time they were a goal short of a great comeback. If they were a little happier they would be more focused and would be winning more games. There is very little separating success from failure in the NHL. I blame the owners and management as well. Spot on.
@allancrow134 Yes they beat the Avs, remember the Avs had all their top line out with injuries= 7 prayers. Why is Rutherford doing damage control, is it to prepare fans trade deadline players will be traded for draft picks.
NOt impressed in the slightest with this management group. Talk and talk but little actually being said. And the way old father time JR is treating Bruce is borderline criminal. There are serious issues with this org at the moment, and JR seems too linked with Pittsburgh to know he's not there anymore. Bringing in the Canucks current GM, who had never held a GM position beforehand, and looking at the new possible coach - all coming from the burgh. WTF. His overall arrogance about what he obviously thought was easy when he came here: dumping contracts to free up cap space didn't look good when it wasn't as easy as he thought.
My understanding is he has a 3 year contract and is already 1/3 of the way through that and done sweet fa about cleaning this mess up, except add a thick veneer of toxicity around the team on to it.
And where the hell is PA in all this ... hiding in his hobbit hole? Doesn't seem to be able to do anything meaningful either, except do the publicity stunt of signing Bieksa's one day contract on tv.
I'm a Canucks fan, but fear for the short-mid term future of the club with this management group in place.
Holy crap Sportsnet ease up on the ads, you can't need money that desperately!
I give Rutherford a ton of credit for sitting there through a ream of tough questions. Most fair, some unfair. He and the doctors are right about medical confidentiality (which somehow is moot in the NFL - just different country, or do the players sign off on their confidentiality?). Regarding the bad contracts, Jim Benning was a disaster for the team, but the Mikheyev contract is a puzzler. JT Miller's contract would seem to contradict Rutherford's comment that "our offer on the table is fair by Horvat's performance up to this year, but not this year." This indicates that he doesn't want to pay a player based on a career year. But isn't that exactly what he did with JT Miller? Anyway, TONS of credit for JR sitting through that presser. Love the Canucks.
They keep going on about clearing cap space. What are they going to do with that space? Go and acquire more big money contracts? This team is not good enough and tinkering around the edges with more Benning-esque contracts isn't going to get it done.
he literally explains his plan to pick up young NHL players who may not have worked out on their original team and then get draft picks. try to keep up
@@peters5090 How much cap space do you possibly need to open up for young reclamation projects?
He completely underestimated the Vancouver market
What does that even mean? Let’s not elevate it to the same level as Montreal, Boston or Chicago. A whiny (notice I didn’t say “passionate) fan base and a city of cub journalists doesn’t mean it’s a top Canadian market.
Canucks seem to have broke the bank on staff members . Do they have more than other teams .
Every single person up there needs to leave. The owner most of all because if he doesn't, nothing changes.
This team is a train wreck
Benning and Linden in their first draft took a guy who's out of the League (as I predicted) over Nylander, Erhlers, Larmer, Fiala, Pasternak, Sanheim, Tuch, Kempe, then with next top six took another guy who's out of the League (as I predicted) over Matt Tkachuk, Chychrun, Sergachev, Keller. Also, kept the Sedins until their 40's, no chance of playoff success, while no top draft picks, that's the only reason Nonis had to trade away franchise goalie for Horvat, and why there was never a rebuild. All the rest, needing 3 new top D, is details.
This team is a joke, the rebuild should have happened right after we got bounced from the first round after making it to the finals. Ownership cares too much about playoff revenue to want to go into a full blow rebuild. Linden wanted to do it, but got the axe. Benning was a yes man that agreed to listen to ownership and saddled us with these horrible contracts not to mention failing to trade the likes of Markstrom, Toffoli and Tanev for assets. Worst GM we've had by far.
Don't forget that the Canucks bad draft picks. Joulevi especially, from the moment he was picked I knew it wasn't the right move. I wanted Vancouver to either get Tkachuk or Sergachev. Also Hoglander and Podkolzin haven't been great either.
I can't believe this is actually a professional sports team. The whole ownership group is an embassment to the city of Vancouver.
Every time I hear "Dr. Bill" all I can think of is Dr. Nick Riviera.
If only the presser opened with "Hi, everybody!"
I know reporters might be getting emails from drunkards now and then, but let's face it, the fans have checked out for years.
There is a simple solution to getting a rebuild/new owner, stop buying merch and tickets to the game
So why did Quinn Hughes say it wasn't handled properly? Nothings adding up here
I do not believe Hughes is a doctor or medical expert so he could just be expressing some frustration
@@kpax45 obviously the medical staff responsible for the problem isn't going to say "yeah we mishandled it"...Quinn is obviously concerned for what he's seen first hand to his teammate.
Well I agree that he's frustrated and not a doctor. Look at demko, off season surgery, then injured 15 games into the season. The trend of injuries here doesn't look good for the team doctors. Maybe poor judgment ?
The more they talk, the more it makes me think and believe it is mis-handling and wrong doings by the medical people. Something is definitely going wrong 🔥🔥🔥
Maybe something WENT wrong (pass tense), thanks to the...previous regime?
Don't you think every team has medical setbacks when you consider the number of injuries that happen around the league?
@@AJ-ox6yi Yeah, but like… look at teams like Toronto or Tampa, who have had numerous injuries to deal with over the past few years alone. Or god, Colorado this season - they’ve faced a nightmarish amount. Do you see a single player speaking out against the way their team handles injuries and medical care?
Short answer; no, you don’t. There’s gotta be something severely messed up about the Canucks medical staff and treatment for multiple people to speak out about it in recent history.
Pretty sure Tanner freaked out when Jim brought up "major surgery"
No one asked how to fix the defence? That’s the biggest problem on this team
They are tied up in bad contracts..
@@milktobo7418 and I don’t think just changing 1 player on defence will fix it either
uh, pretty easy to tell: cap space, overpaid useless D men, coaching/structure - take your pick
sack Jim Rutherford. Canucks have been suffering long before Boudreau came on the scene. Jim has to go. He is an AH.
This has been my first year in decades where I've completely stopped watching this team. I don't understand this teams aversion to rebuilding. Same old crap
16:58 That’s it for a response to that season ticket holder. “I don’t agree.”
They need more than surgery. They need to rebuild everything. You can’t save them with a retool
That’s what should be so sad to hear for any Canucks fan is that the organizational mandate is essentially do the same thing they’ve been doing for almost a decade.
@@stentorofsparta3576 Very unfortunate
@@stentorofsparta3576 most Canucks fans don’t want the unnecessary rebuild that would cost us Hughes, Pettersson and Demko
@@dtrain9911 that’s not what I get from most Canucks fans. They seem to have accepted that the team missed its chance to build properly around those guys and that a full rebuild has been necessary since about 2014.
Gonna havta let Rutherford be for 4 years
How about talk to tanner directly
You know after watching this media briefing by JR I am impressed. He knows the inside game of hockey. Pontificators do not know what goes on in managing an NHL team. As a die hard Canucks fan (been with them unequivocally since they entered the NHL) I have ridden the highs and lows of this team. Yes this season has been a bust. There's many elements that contribute to it. But lets give this management team the benefit of time to let their inner experience affect change. Benning has saddled our Canucks with decisions that are long term. Long term contracts that paralyze making the roster changes needed. Recall the Luongo contract that even he said was a ball and chain for him. I long for the days when we signed players to max 3-year contracts and then extended them. Seven plus year contracts do not allow the NHL to see forward movement. Cap space has hampered the league as a whole and it shows in our desire to move some Canuck players. JR admits the number one issue is Cap space to affect positive change in roster/success = wins and making the playoffs. As fans we know it inside us too. What we don't know is what they do on a daily basis to achieve the goals to bring a better roster to the ice. As a fan let's rely less on pontificators and allow patience and belief that things are being done to achieve what we want from this team.
If the Canucks were a blue chip stock, they would have i,p.o.'d' at $20 a share.. and fitfy years later be trading at $30 a share, with at least 3 cuts in the dividend. Dump it and buy a Railroad
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What...I'm a die hard canucks fan but there's rational thinking we need to put here. Jimbo 2.0 has done nothing to help our situation, in fact his treatment of Bruce Boudreau from day one is despicable.
Canucks house is on fire and Owners are starting to see it, too bad he's too busy with his own kids trying to emancipate from him. In the end, Fans vote by how many tickets are being sold, and it's easy to see the prices are dwindling and the arena is not selling out any time soon.
I'll believe it when I see it.
I’ve been a fan also . Since the beginning. They blew the first choice . I’ve seen live hockey all around the league . The Canucks have always been the most emotionally fragile team I’ve seen .
Canucks fans, this guy will destroy your franchise. The Carolina Hurricanes took over a decade to recover from his poor roster building, The Penguins are now feeling the affects of him purging their minor league system and draft capital, he’ll ruin the Canucks as well.
The guy is terrible at building teams for long term success. The Canes did nothing after winning their cup in 05-06, except make one playoff appearance until
Rutherford left them after the 13-14 season and he completely set the Penguins back with poor trades after the back to back cups.
i like Jim because he doesnt cave in to a bunch of idiotic media guys. Hes not a fan hes a professional manager. He knows the business and he knows players arent like trading playing cards like most of the media think. There is so much more to running a team then what meets the eye. Glad he spelled some things out. The media still wont listen. Vancouver fans might be dissapointed but its what is best for the team not some guy sitting at home watching the games with a case of beer.
Agreed. Drance and Farhan just complain about the same things and want to get their way, yet have zero clue on how the business is run. JR is a HoFer and this is why. He knows the game inside out.
@@Skittle9651 did you listen to the show Drance is on the one thing he focus on was a sarcastic joke Rutherford made and somehow he made it into something blown out of proportion
he tells it like it is as a free speech absolutist
#based
19:03 when the doctor tried to shake JRs hand and then tried to save it with the dap.
19:02 yikesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Brutal! Time for a serious management change. This is bad!
holy crap what is with all the commercial breaks
Opera has a built in ad filter, I don't have any commercial breaks.
Who is the outspoken reporter? Great questions to held him to the fire.
Double J … My Man!!
So they moved out 32 people and brought in 24 of the wrong people! They do have some really good offensive players, but he said it well, their not a team every night with accountability! It's not just a Miller team or a Peady team, when Garland is your hardest working heart and soul of the team and get zero respect from his team mates when he gets pounded into the boards or blatant punches in the face, yeah it's not a team buying in with grit and determination.
ANY other team would have stood up for their teammate in the exact same situation, yet all canucks, including Horvat, just stand there and stare at the guy? Brutal.
Correction : Garland instigated. He took a jab at Sergachev and got a punch in the face in return.
Rutherford talks teambuilding and he wants to sign young players under 25 and he loves the Miller contract. Everything with the Canucks makes so much sense. Oh yes and the players love it here. How can they possible not. Everything is perfect. We have all totally misunderstood everything. There is basically no problem. A few glitches but nothing to worry about. Give Big Jim two years - its the one and only thing Canuks need. Success will follow. So happy now.
@@Elsanna7 I was being ironic.
DUHHHHH.....
Wizard Suleiman has everything honestly, without deception.
canucks managment is so old it frightens me
If I was Rutherford I would be doing everything possible to have Bedard play for Vancouver.
Might as well tank rest of year, finish in bottom 5 to get in lottery. Even if they don't win it would be good to get a top 5 draft pick!
Then all management should be fired first considering they went into the season with a "anything but playoffs is a complete failure" attitude.
So Canucks can kill off yet another talent? For the love of ice hockey let Bedard go to a proper organization.
Out: Horvat, Boeser. (Replace with Podkolzin and Hoglander).
Return: Dmen only. Prospects or players.
Build the team around Demko + dcore.
OPTIONAL: Hughes to NJD (he deserves to play in the playoffs with his brothers. His talent wasted here is a crime.) For one of their high value forwards.
As a Sabres fan that is also a Canucks fan, the fans there need to have patience and trust a long-term plan that will build a cup winning team. You don't want to make impatient decisions that will only get you knocked out of the 1st round of the playoffs and broke financially. The Sabres rushed 2 rebuilds because everyone wanted to see them win NOW and it caused the longest playoff drought in NHL history. It could take a few years to build a winning team.
It will take a few years to build a winning team. We'll see if it can be done
Yeah and that means being patient while teams suck really bad. A rookie that scores 5 goals one year might score 30 the next, or just continue sucking. You can't know until you get a large sample size.
we've been patient since 2011 XD
@@Xdot15 Team was still competitive for a couple of years after 2011, you mean been patient since 2013
22:15 wanting to get canuck players 25 /26 years or younger . What in the hell then . Why did you sign JT then to that 8 year contract . Could of gotten solid 1st round draft pick and high prospect player who would of been way younger than 26 . Harold
19:01😂
Canucks are still dealing with some crummy Benning contracts. When you hear the gm say that they have tried to make trades but nothing has come up. That falls back on the players usually. Benning pushed them to the cap and dried there prospect pool. Until they get the cap down through end of contracts or otherwise. The problem of bennings gm capabilities are still gonna be present until these garbage contracts are done and over with. The team needs to be accountable to themselves. They can play with skill, they just need to honor that with themselves.
Podkolzin and Hoglander still qualify as prospects, don't forget Benning left us with Linus Karlsson. People are giving up on Lekkerimaki too quickly, and we pulled Nils Aman without a hat
the biggest problem spells JT Miller. That contract was post Benning.
@@iettord3124 He's been playing better lately, and no, he's far from the biggest problem
@@user-by3nd4rm6cwrong, by all accounts he is a very toxic personality in the locker room. Just look at his on ice antics recently. He is becoming the poster boy for the losing culture of this team.
@@beegee8418 No evidence of him being a locker room cancer, you're making a baseless accusation
Vancouver fans know hockey. If you would ask them. They would say keep Boudreau. And get rid of Rutherford. Any President who would call out his coach during a tough patch. After that coach made an heroic run to get into the playoffs a year earlier. And who has had a respectable career in the league over many years. That President needs to go.
NEWS FLASH. WE MISSED THE PLAYOFFS
I've watched the Canucks all season. They're not as bad as they are made out to be. They are just walking on eggshells because of the constant battering. You can't win championships with low morale. I wish management would lighten up and let them focus on playing the game instead of all the uncertainty and drama.
U should blame the fans and local media for that
We have a very solid top 3 lines upfront. Our defense and lack of a goaltender to rely on has killed any chance of us having any consistency. The scores throughout the season have easily reflected that.
When someone says the owners give, us all the tools and are hands off is lying. This guy has done nothing to try to move a guy like Hovat for a few 1st round draft picks. Major surgery is not needed they need to stay out of coaching decisions mamage your gm and get them them the money to make deals. The game has changed on him he needs to just retire. Why would you go with Tochett a guy that never wins. Every comment and non movement is perplexing.
Canucks
2021-22: 40-30-12 (92 pts)
2022-23: 18-22-3 (39 pts to date)
Horvat is having a career year, and Pettersson a bounce back season.
What's happened, aside from blowing leads in a number of games? Or, is that it?
@@jamesanthony5681 did you ever notice how players seem to have great years the last year in their contract? If I was the Bruins I would trade for him and give Canucks 2 forwards and 2 Def and #5 pick since they the Canucks have is believe picks in each round maybe even 2 4th round picks in 2023.draft
This was a great press conference.
Did it have to take place the day after Gino past away?
@@zilla3745 Completely coincidental
Funny how you can't tell if he had a surgery for medical privacy laws yet 1 year ago I couldn't go in a restaurant to eat because I was unvaccinated thought that was my right to privacy......just saying
This guy took a real good team and turned into a toxic climate and if someone goes is RUTHERFORD.
JR seemed genuinely surprised about the Pearson injury complications. Does he not talk to his players daily? How can he be surprised?
He literally said that he does not deal with players daily.
I can save the Canucks boys put the pressure on me
Please get berdard
Danny Mcjesus
The most important person(s) for a hockey team to win and NHL Championship are the General Manager / Owner. The latest was having Caulfield available in the draft day but taking Podkolzin. But check out why Jagr was not a Canuck or why Cam Neely was a Canuck for a cup of coffee. Look back at the Montreal Canadiens when they had Sam Pollock as GM: Cup after Cup after Cup
Great teams, but as I remember they had territorial rights. Lot of great players outta Que in those days.
@@forgetful3360 Using the French Canadian Rule
For the first five years of the Amateur draft, from 1963 to 1967, the Canadiens never invoked their French Canadian option. In 1968, the Canadiens saw an opportunity and finally made use of their exclusive right for the first time. They selected goaltender Michel Plasse and a centreman from Montreal named Roger Belisle. Plasse played 32 games for the Habs as a backup goalie and was subsequently lost with no compensation in the 1974 Expansion Draft. Roger Belisle never played a game in the NHL.
In 1969, the Canadiens used the French Canadian rule again to select Rejean Houle and Marc Tardif before the other teams drafted in regular order. Although both of these 1969 selections were serviceable NHL’ers, they were hardly the foundation of any future Habs dynasty. Both players were lost to the rival WHA after four seasons with Montreal.
Au Revoir to the Rule
By 1969, the old sponsorship system had been completely phased out. The NHL voted to eliminate the French Canadian rule, otherwise, the Habs would have been happy to take junior phenom Gilbert Perreault from Victoriaville, Quebec in 1970. Perreault went on to become the foundation of the early Buffalo Sabres’ success.
That’s it. From 1970 forward, the Canadians built their most successful teams the old-fashioned way, through wise trades and diligent draft picks. As the league expanded, the newer teams needed skilled players immediately. Still deeply stocked, the Canadiens could afford to give up serviceable players for future draft picks. Other Original Six teams had the same opportunity, but Habs’ general manager Sam Pollock was the master. That’s how he secured Guy Lafleur and other superstars the Canadiens’ of the 1970s employed while grabbing six more Stanley Cups.
Hmmm calling coaches a few months ago but calling and talking don’t know or want to make change lol hmm okay why call then lol 🤔🤭
You always call candidates when team's struggling, but Jim is honest and saying he wants to live up to keeping his Coach until end of season
Because he has to throw bruce under the bus first
Rogers Arena is bad luck place since 1995 till now! move back to old place or build new Arena somw where else! waste time and money! only few good player elias-pettersson, andrei-kuzmenko,bo-horvat,jt-miller , the other and tradeaway. the dumb and stupid move fired Bruce Boudreau!🙄
YOU JUST STARTED! YOU JUST HIRED A NEW GM! Now you are restarting your own "re-tooling". It's pathetic when people in charge have no clue what they are doing.
One more comments - it starts with the fans. Canuck fans are not hockey fans. Not like Edmonton or Calgary. The team and the coaching staff barely needs to try to get the adulation and praise from the public. Fans are too laid back. But if the Florida team can do it, why can't the Canucks do it. I would change the name of the team, change jerseys/colours, change the theme music, Make so many changes, that when the double latte - with added THC, crowd shows up, they won't recognize the place.
Canucks have to change it up, start with that U2 song they play at the start of the game. There is a hypnotic feeling at the arena. The place needs a major reno. Forget the team, change the feeling and look of the arena. We need Chef Ramsay to come in and jump start this dying franchise. I haven't watched a Canuck game for 5 years and I won't until they change. It seems that the accountants only want the same old - same old. The arena reminds me of a small town arena which hasn't see funding for 20 years and still has pictures in the lobby which show the local boys that made it to the WHA 15 years ago.
Canucks fans better familiarise ourselves with Pittsburgh’s roster and AHL prospects in case Jim and Patrick decide to send Horvat there.
still not gonna do a proper rebuild... he will just "retool".. that's just hilarious..
Omg . Stop already . This guy has had the best medical treatment , money can buy . What a laugh . I’ve needed medical care since covid started , I must wait as I get more ill . Pound sand
The game has passed Rutherford by. It's time for the organization to except that and move on
They have to know fun is good ,till not disrespect others .we have to learn that.everything and everybody has a limit.
At least they seem to be taking things seriously and have somewhat of a plan. It’s hard to do much when no one has cap space, though. It’s easy to say blow it all up, but what teams have the cap room to take on these big contracts? As long as Jim and Patrik have autonomy, that’s what’s important.
They don’t have a plan unless they plan to tank
Rutherford clearly doesn’t have autonomy. Aquilini is essentially the de facto gm. And the plan going forward seems to be do more of the same.
@@stentorofsparta3576 Rutherford left the penguins because the owner interfered why come to an organization then that has the owner interfering maybe because he’s not. They guy has won 3 Stanley cups he has plan
@@dtrain9911 oh so you’re saying it was his idea to sign JT Miller long term? Cause I was gonna give Rutherford a pass for that cause I figured it was the owner. But you’re telling me it was all Rutherford. Ok then.
@@stentorofsparta3576 they have a plan you don’t have to like but it’s the plan of a guy who’s won 3 Stanley cup every management group goes through ups and downs especially in year 1 will see where it’s all at in 4 or 5 years
Fire JR.
Just like he said. No excuses. He has failed at every level. I would fire him
With Cause.
If they need therapy ,send them for therapy you have good people to listen to Canadian citizens
boooooooo!!!
Dump the management who kept JT Miller and traded Bo Horvat!!!
There, will you guys please shut up about "we have no plan"
Yep, I'm done with this team for now. Retool over rebuild = mediocrity. We've all seen this for the last eight years.
Not a Van. Fan but get rid of Rutherford and Allvin and bring back Linden cause he was right when he tried to tell ownership under his time a rebuild is needed and they apparently didn't listen and he was let go not too long after. Give him that second chance to prove he was right over Allvin and Rutherfords "retool".... long term success over a potential short term gain
This aged well...Canucks +33 goal diff, 1st in GF, 1st GA
OK?
I would have such a hard time dealing with these media members. I wish the Bruins reporters would question Sweeney the way these guys are drilling him but it’s easy to pick on medical staff
If they needed major surgery. A huge boon doggle to resign JT. They would need two really good guys back. A young defenseman and another one with potential or draft pick. Attacking the coach months ago wa another boon doggle
I would have started by offering condolences to the Odjick family. I would look to trade Bo for some young prospects/ draft picks, and I wouldn’t reveal ANY details of those negotiations. I wouldn’t have resigned Miller, because his tantrums are toxic. We want a team that is emotional but not immature, and let’s face it- his actions are immature. I’d hire Bieksa as a culture coordinator to nurture a healthy team environment, one where guys are having fun winning. Id educate the players on Canucks history so they understand the TEAM they play for - letting Linden walk was symbolic of the death of this teams identity and culture. I’d treat Bruce with respect until his contract is done or he is let go. This means publicly showing him support even when it feels hard. I would NEVER have said (in reference to the after hours interview) that the team had a bad training camp, they had bad habits, they had no superstar and that he didn’t know Bruce’s contract was a 2 year contract. That added an element of insecurity to the team and was so unnecessary and unsupportive. Maybe theres truth to them, but you don’t need to air all that publicly and at such an early point in the season…In terms of players, sending podz and hogs to Abbotsford was the right move. You have to focus on developing these young players. I’d look to trade Boeser and Garland- they’re great players who aren’t thriving here but will probably do great elsewhere. I’d focus on developing Burroughs over Stillman, because of the heart that Burroughs shows- that’s the kind of influence you want in the locker room. I would be very careful in signing players that didn’t work out on their first teams- I would want to know WHY they didn’t work out and make darn sure it’s not because of a toxic personality. Lastly, everything done with 100% respect and class from the top to bottom. Respect, honour, accountability, genuineness, hard work, dedication, discipline and support of each other would be uncompromisable core values. It’s about winning with integrity. Last thing I’ll say- while I don’t agree with everything JR has said or done, I do give him credit for taking responsibility and fielding these tough questions.
A lot of contradictions made by Rutherford. Is that because he's not clear HIMSELF of the direction of the team moving forward? Also, not great optics overall, bringing out medical staff, who can't answer questions. "We do a good job here. Further than that, we're not at liberty to comment." Yeah, thanks for coming.
A guy who gets up there and 1. Says ownership has not interfered at all 2. Says he made mistakes in thinking he would come in and more quickly move contracts, and 3. Who out and out says something around a 2-3 year timeline for his major surgery to realign/rebuild the team. Some answers. Thank you.
That cuts out a lot of the negative hyperbuzz I've been hearing and in which I've participated for the last little while. I will stop my maligning of ownership, for now. Again, thank you Jim. (though, its still gonna be a lot of work to forgive ownership for the 6 purgatorial years that was the Benning era).