Hey Lukasz, That's a tough call and something we definitely didn't try or discuss during the launch. I'd say a piece of luggage that straps UNDER the seat would be alright, but any strapping going near the exhaust should be monitored and checked before a big trip.
Hey Jack, The interface is fairly simple, which makes navigation of the menu relatively easy. When we had the Dorsoduro in the fleet, it didn't strike us as an issue. Thanks! - Nic
Could the Dorsoduro be used as a true dual sport or adventure bike. I was looking at getting a KTM 690 but then seen the Dorsoduro. I really the size and look of it. Is it off road capable? Thanks for the video.
I took one out for a test ride and imo it's way too heavy to be a true dual sport bike. It's also extremely under powered compared to the Z900 and GSXR750, which motorycle.com made a review on even though they had the Shiver (which is basically the same motor and chassis). It has the disadvantages of a touring bike (weight) but no advantages of it (windscreen, fairings, luggage capability etc). I do not know how sophisticated the electronics are for off road either but those 3 spoke rims have been proven to be off-roadable (I would question the durability). I would consider it more of an overweight supermoto if anything.
Anything is a dual sport bike if you try hard enough! The serious answer would be no, the Dorsoduro wouldn't make for a good off-road experience. It's designed as a road-going machine, so it has little off-road DNA instilled into the package overall. Suspension has been tuned for road use, meaning that heavy hits on the trails wouldn't go over well - that observation applies to essentially every road going machine. Alloy wheels can be used off-road but wire-spoke wheels tend to have much higher durability, not to mention the 17'' wheel in the front could lead to some instability. It's weight is also a consideration. At a claimed 467 pounds, that's quite a bit heavier than the average dual sport, but not too far fetched when it comes to larger displacement ADV bikes. However, the advantage with the vast majority of dual sports and ADV bikes is that they have tires, suspension, chassis and wheels that have been developed to handle both on and off-road use. Larger diameter front wheels would be able to handle off-road terrain much easier than a 17'' alloy wheel. There wouldn't be a benefit to retrofitting a Dorsoduro 900 for dual sport or ADV riding, when there are completely competent options from most manufacturers. In fact, you could take a look at the Aprilia Caponord 1200. Since you seem to have you sights aimed at the KTM 690 Enduro R already, I'd say stick with that. The Dorsoduro 900 will have a more street-friendly feel than the Enduro R, as it will offer better cornering ability etc. As an off-road machine, the short answer is it isn't. Hope this helps! Stay safe out there!
stefano cioni On the heavier side, and a smaller fuel tank. Either way, these both are widely overlooked bikes. I love both, but prefer the shiver on a daily basis.
I have just got the older version of the shiver from 2015, and the limited experience I had with it confirms pretty much what was said in the review. I moved on from a Kawasaki er6n. And the negatives I was able to tell so far when it comes to the shiver 750 is: it doesn't have a fuel gauge, it only has a low fuel light, it doesn't show range either. Maybe sounds worse than it really is when you get used to it. The handling and brakes are absolutely awesome, the reason why I got the bike. The under the seat exhaust heats up the seat quite a bit and it could be annoying if you get stuck in traffic. There is also absolutely no space under the seat, not even for a lock or a little cargo net to tie your backpack or something to the rear seat. It just fits absolutely nothing. When it comes to the engine, i guess it depends on what you want and your riding style. I expected it to feel a lot more powerful coming from the er6n. Probably because of the taller gearing it feels pretty much as powerful as the er6n, maybe a bit more. I dont even think it really needs a traction control. That is probably improved with the new 900. Also I wish the engine would rev a bit more, the er6n really picks up at around 6k rpm and goes screaming all the way to 12k rpm. I loved to go through the gears with it. The shiver doesnt really give you that, it is as fast, but the power kind of fades by the end and at least mine only revs to like 10k rpm so it doesnt give me as much of a fizz while going through the gears, but saying that, after like 15 minutes of riding on it, I was already faster on it than the er6n because the handling is so good. The shiver is not a hooligan but not a booring bike either, it just feels natural and nice. The shiver doesnt have the "iconic style status" of a ducati monster and it is not as exciting or powerful as the mt09 or a street triple so few people consider it. It is just not marketed and positioned that well, but it is a damn good bike, I loved it after I tried it.
Otakar Libal When the fuel light comes in for good, it starts counting the mileage. I usually fill up around 150 miles, and still have gas left. The stock exhaust gets way too hot, and the bike runs very lean from the factory (750) I upgraded my exhaust which makes the bike feel less heavy, and added a fatduc emulator to richen the fueling up. It runs so much better, no more jerky throttle or flat spots. The heat is gone as well. Best upgrade you can do. The Shiver has torque everywhere, so you don’t need to rev it out like other engines. It’s not a blow your arms off fast kinda bike, but very quick for the street. I dropped my forks and the bike is night and day more nimble, although around 85+ mph you can feel it’s less stable. Wonderful bike. I do wish aprilia fitted a larger tank to the 900, and offered more than one color in the US. I would buy one if so
Going to Pick up the dorso in an hour for a day, im so excited i cant wait
Shiver looks amazing
Great review man!
Those lateral air intakes ❤️
nice riding
Can I strap soft luggage on a back seat?pipes look insulated but not sure they are hot or not
Hey Lukasz,
That's a tough call and something we definitely didn't try or discuss during the launch. I'd say a piece of luggage that straps UNDER the seat would be alright, but any strapping going near the exhaust should be monitored and checked before a big trip.
Seat height for both please. Thanks
during you testing the dorsoduro, is there any other difficulty, issue, malfunction...in seting up user mode or atc?
Hey Jack,
The interface is fairly simple, which makes navigation of the menu relatively easy. When we had the Dorsoduro in the fleet, it didn't strike us as an issue.
Thanks!
- Nic
if the screen is tft then why not build in gps
Could the Dorsoduro be used as a true dual sport or adventure bike. I was looking at getting a KTM 690 but then seen the Dorsoduro. I really the size and look of it. Is it off road capable? Thanks for the video.
I took one out for a test ride and imo it's way too heavy to be a true dual sport bike. It's also extremely under powered compared to the Z900 and GSXR750, which motorycle.com made a review on even though they had the Shiver (which is basically the same motor and chassis). It has the disadvantages of a touring bike (weight) but no advantages of it (windscreen, fairings, luggage capability etc). I do not know how sophisticated the electronics are for off road either but those 3 spoke rims have been proven to be off-roadable (I would question the durability). I would consider it more of an overweight supermoto if anything.
Anything is a dual sport bike if you try hard enough! The serious answer would be no, the Dorsoduro wouldn't make for a good off-road experience. It's designed as a road-going machine, so it has little off-road DNA instilled into the package overall. Suspension has been tuned for road use, meaning that heavy hits on the trails wouldn't go over well - that observation applies to essentially every road going machine. Alloy wheels can be used off-road but wire-spoke wheels tend to have much higher durability, not to mention the 17'' wheel in the front could lead to some instability.
It's weight is also a consideration. At a claimed 467 pounds, that's quite a bit heavier than the average dual sport, but not too far fetched when it comes to larger displacement ADV bikes. However, the advantage with the vast majority of dual sports and ADV bikes is that they have tires, suspension, chassis and wheels that have been developed to handle both on and off-road use. Larger diameter front wheels would be able to handle off-road terrain much easier than a 17'' alloy wheel.
There wouldn't be a benefit to retrofitting a Dorsoduro 900 for dual sport or ADV riding, when there are completely competent options from most manufacturers. In fact, you could take a look at the Aprilia Caponord 1200. Since you seem to have you sights aimed at the KTM 690 Enduro R already, I'd say stick with that.
The Dorsoduro 900 will have a more street-friendly feel than the Enduro R, as it will offer better cornering ability etc. As an off-road machine, the short answer is it isn't.
Hope this helps! Stay safe out there!
honestly i think that the dorsoduro could do with a revamped new front look, it's getting a bit old for 2018
Nice review but I think saying there are no negatives? There has to be negatives...
stefano cioni 12L tank on the dorsoduro would be one.
stefano cioni On the heavier side, and a smaller fuel tank. Either way, these both are widely overlooked bikes. I love both, but prefer the shiver on a daily basis.
I have just got the older version of the shiver from 2015, and the limited experience I had with it confirms pretty much what was said in the review. I moved on from a Kawasaki er6n. And the negatives I was able to tell so far when it comes to the shiver 750 is: it doesn't have a fuel gauge, it only has a low fuel light, it doesn't show range either. Maybe sounds worse than it really is when you get used to it. The handling and brakes are absolutely awesome, the reason why I got the bike. The under the seat exhaust heats up the seat quite a bit and it could be annoying if you get stuck in traffic. There is also absolutely no space under the seat, not even for a lock or a little cargo net to tie your backpack or something to the rear seat. It just fits absolutely nothing. When it comes to the engine, i guess it depends on what you want and your riding style. I expected it to feel a lot more powerful coming from the er6n. Probably because of the taller gearing it feels pretty much as powerful as the er6n, maybe a bit more. I dont even think it really needs a traction control. That is probably improved with the new 900. Also I wish the engine would rev a bit more, the er6n really picks up at around 6k rpm and goes screaming all the way to 12k rpm. I loved to go through the gears with it. The shiver doesnt really give you that, it is as fast, but the power kind of fades by the end and at least mine only revs to like 10k rpm so it doesnt give me as much of a fizz while going through the gears, but saying that, after like 15 minutes of riding on it, I was already faster on it than the er6n because the handling is so good. The shiver is not a hooligan but not a booring bike either, it just feels natural and nice. The shiver doesnt have the "iconic style status" of a ducati monster and it is not as exciting or powerful as the mt09 or a street triple so few people consider it. It is just not marketed and positioned that well, but it is a damn good bike, I loved it after I tried it.
Otakar Libal When the fuel light comes in for good, it starts counting the mileage. I usually fill up around 150 miles, and still have gas left. The stock exhaust gets way too hot, and the bike runs very lean from the factory (750) I upgraded my exhaust which makes the bike feel less heavy, and added a fatduc emulator to richen the fueling up. It runs so much better, no more jerky throttle or flat spots. The heat is gone as well. Best upgrade you can do. The Shiver has torque everywhere, so you don’t need to rev it out like other engines. It’s not a blow your arms off fast kinda bike, but very quick for the street. I dropped my forks and the bike is night and day more nimble, although around 85+ mph you can feel it’s less stable. Wonderful bike. I do wish aprilia fitted a larger tank to the 900, and offered more than one color in the US. I would buy one if so
Sarah Dell thanks! I didn't notice that it starts counting the mileage. What exhaust did you put on yours? Sounds like it's pretty worth it.
are they available now?
Yep! Visit your local Aprilia dealer and check them out!
What's with the X legs
shut the fuck up again...