Please check out: go.nebula.tv/hoog It makes videos like this possible, and it gives you access to really, really wonderful documentaries. ERRORS: Bargaining duration should be in days NOT months. Sources: hoogisamonkey.substack.com/p/sources-the-netherlands-isnt-perfect
Not sure why you weren't satisfied with it (as you say on the source page), this is a really good video that ties a functional and clear explanation of how the dutch government works to deeper historical trends, with a nice analogy that brings it all together! A good read on communal management of common pool resources is Elinor Ostrom's Governing the Commons. Apparently the Spanish had similar water use councils stretching back centuries, although it seems like they didn't have an influence on modern political identity to the same extent as the Dutch.
I find it strange that small parties should be bad, because there aren't enough people per party, to check all the dossiers. After all, our constitution demands, in essence, that there be 150 one-man-parties in de tweede kamer. Together, these 150 single people should check the government on all the dossiers, and since no single person could ever do that on their own, it follows that they must rely on each other, across these single-person-party boundaries. Actually, they are not 150 parties, but 150 people. Consitutionally, parties do not exist. It makes sense that these 150 parlementarians make alliances per subject, and that they make majorities per law. But we have decided to make default alliances (called parties) and default majorities (called coalitions). Suddenly, these party members can afford to be skittish about trusting across party lines. And so they are skittish. And this is the result. And that is what it is, in my opinion: A complaint about parties being too small, is actually a complaint about having to trust other parlementarians across party boundaries.
It's hilariously clear you're a Dutchy. Only Dutch people can be this venomous about Dutch political parties while still somehow including an undertone of pride about the system as a whole, love it
The Netherlands isn't perfect?! Why wasn't I informed?! This video is great. The merchant, the priest, and the angry old man is so accurate. Well done as usual, Hoog. The Netherlands definitely isn't perfect ... it's just better than anywhere else I've ever lived. In particular, the really sad part about the housing crisis in the Netherlands is that it's even worse in Canada. 😔 And the response to corona was so much better here than where I used to live in Ontario. And I still vastly prefer the coalition infighting of the Netherlands to Canada, where instead of voting for who you want, you have to vote strategically to avoid the other guy getting in, because a party with only ~33% of the vote can get a complete majority to enact whatever legislation they want.
@@baathi7358 it's also for a good reason. We are a small country that is much more densely populated than most other countries. Our housing crisis is bound to be worse than that of other countries merely because of that. We have a land area of about 40.000 sq km. I bet you can easily draw several 40.000 sq km connected areas on a US map or elsewhere in Europe where the housing crisis is even worse than here. It's compensated by more sparsely populated areas over there. Unfortunately for the EU the mobility is not on the US level, mainly due to language barriers. If housing prices are too high in California you can move to Texas, and that is less of a step than emigrating from the Netherlands. Especially people with lower education are very unlikely to do that.
The moment I realized you were Dutch, I was already expecting a jab at Belgium. And tbh, as a Belgian myself, I agree. Belgian politics are something I wouldn't touch with a 10m stick
As a Brit, the only thing I know about Belgian politics is that you had a system where if you did something on one side of the country, you had to do the same or similar thing on the other side. I guess Belgium is Belgium! Lol
@@mdhazeldine What you're referring to is Waffle Iron Politics or la politique du gaufrier and wafelijzerpolitiek. Which was the way Beligum worked before Flanders and Wallonia gained more regional autonomy.
@@kibaanazuka332 Yeah. I learned a little bit about it from the Tim Traveller channel, about the Charleroi metro system that got built and never opened. Crazy story.
"It's not easy to have experts on financial, education, foreign, and green energy policy with only one or two people unless they're TH-camrs, of course, who are experts on everything." I died from laughter! ☠
he's right, you know. Our politics are a source of frustration and amusement. But in the end, not a single political system is perfect. - some Belgian bloke
RIP to the Americans who thought this was gonna be a huge expose and takedown on the Dutch bicycle system. EDIT 2024: Guess the title was completely changed or something.
@@dabakonader I know French, German and English (other languages too but they are not relevant) But I do not know dutch, then tell me WHY DO I UNDERSTAND YOU ?!?
@@dabakonader almost true. german and dutch come from the same language, they evolved together. English is influenced a lot by the same language, as well. this means there is a lot of similarities.
I don't like the "let's make the people be less representable by following Germany" sentiment. Enforcing it also conveniently makes all the big parties even bigger without any extra effort, so obviously you won't easily find a big party (voter) who is against it
@@hoogyoutube It's not a free choice. In a representative democracy the treshold is what it is. There is a number of votes for each seat in parliament, otherwise it wouldn't be representative as in one man, one vote. An artificial treshold is undemocratic in it's nature, it's up to the voters whether they want smaller parties. And smaller parties can grow big, but not if they are artificially blocked out. The obvious reason big parties want tresholds is pointed out well above, but they use their own incompetence to work with the representation the voters put in and the ungovernability their own big party systems, which are not the product of the legal/constitutional system and even conflict with it, as an excuse.
Totally agree. The 5% threshold in Germany becomes more and more an undemocratic feature because a larger percentage of voters are not represented in parliaments. It's more a problem in some states than the federal parliament but if >10% of votes are basically thrown out and over-represent bigger parties you have a problem at some point. It frustrates voters of newer parties that are often favoured by younger voters. The reasoning for this is always the Weimarer Republik where the number of parties in parliament paved the way for the Nazis but this is just a very, very incomplete way of thinking about it. BTW, the 5% threshold is not used for the European Parliament elections nor local election.
@@spinni81There is a good reason for the 5% threshold. Lessons learnt from the time of Weimar Republic. I agree it closes out quite a few votes not being represented in parliament but it helps to keep coalitions reasonably small. The current 3-party coalition is already a pain in the ass when it comes to decision making. A coalition with even more parties is a nightmare. And that's what would also happen in Germany without the threshold.
@@singularityscan And the idealistic young person who doesn't yet know whether it wants to be man or woman, but is filled with beautiful plans for the 'future' while enjoying 'helpful' means.
The angry old man is a recent invention of the modern priests, those who preach the original sin, guilt and repent about nature, climate and somehow even the past. It's just to discredit those who complain the preacher and the merchant are messing up in their cynical cooperation.
As a dutchy myself, I can tell this is pretty accurate. As people have said, the old man, merchant and priest analogy is a sharp metaphor. And the housing crisis is in my opinion one of, if not the biggest, issue of our country. When it comes to the political side of things, if I had any critisism against it, its that it feels like the most important decisions get stuck in the mud so to speak. Stuck in a political development hell. And continuing with that analogy, it also feels like a lot of decisions get dropped on the cutting room floor. (Looking at you, migration laws)
agreed, the housing crisis is shit idk if I am gonna be able to get a home by the time I have to look (which is in like 7 years even so quite a while still) and then there are refugees too who need homes too, all of it is too much... Groen Links should really let the housing standards climate wise loosen a bit otherwise it will not be fixed for another 20-30 years :/
@@ysbrandd Honestly I think all the parties should loosen up a bit, no point in bickering when it's too late. When it comes to the refugee crisis, the old unprogressive bags that run PvdA for example are slowing that wa-a-a-y down. Same goes for the emissions produced by farming, being both well overplayed by opposing parties for the animals and the one for the farmers. (Look, I don't care what political views you have, you must agree, there's always a better voting option then those two parties)(honestly I don't know why they exist)
When push comes to shove, an American or an Englishman will have a vision and do something. Even if it's a stupid choice (Liz Truss mini-budget), better a bad action then no action. The Dutch however, will spend years hearing everyone's opinion and then usually just do nothing. Which is often the best choice, but very infuriating!
Personally i think the many parties are a result of lack of party disipline and the coalition agreement that makes the tweede kamer almost useless as the coalition blocks every form of true oppositon in order to adhere to this agreement. If you combine that with a goverment that doesnt listen to their own constituenty, but rather to vague unelected globalist or eu doctrine people will anoyed. They fail to close down borders or dial down climate actions and generally do things that the majority wants. If the big parties don't solve the problems, you'll find people are going to walk away to someone else. possible a less stable party is going to take over. This is also not uniquely for the dutch, it happens all over europe.
@@Ikbeneengeit I do agree with that on some levels, but I'd take the inaction of the Netherlands over the two-party system of America any day. I'd rather have the many options I have, then the two terrible options that they've got. Trump was such a disaster, that a centrist must be mad to vote on anything else but Biden.
What is so pathetic is that that same Calvinist culture has infected and infested the USA, which now has the same condemnatory attitude towards everyone as pure sinners. Especially in the sex stuff, where slut-shaming is intense! Americans like to sleep around, but then tut-tut anyone who is outed. Welcome to John Calvin.
6:40 "The Netherlands stands out on top. Now you have Belgium, sometimes... But Belgium is Belgium" That just cracked me up so hard how you left it at that without saying more about what you mean cause we all know what you mean hahahahhahaha... Belgium gonna Belgium ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ That's just a typical Belgian thing that Belgium gonna do.
@@SpaceSightAir klopt, maar uw opmerking is van 3 dagen geleden toch? Als u dan zelf zo'n snuggere jan bent, waarom tekst u dan "voorspelt" in plaats van "voorspelde"? Just saying.
Once again a great video. A lot of videos I watch about the Netherlands are very positive about the way we do certain things around here. And I think it’s a good thing as a Dutch person to look around a appreciate some of the great things we’ve accomplished as a nation. But for outsiders it’s also important to see that we’re far from perfect and have our own demons.
@@KayleBradleynot so cute now, are they? I'm 100% Dutch and the NL is a shithole to the point that I'm currently traveling around, looking for a better place to live. There is no nature, everyone is in constant argument with each other about literally every tiniest thing, the cost of living (and especially housing) is ridiculous (2 people with decent salary can barely afford an average house, if at all, and rent matches house prices), political polarization is bigger than ever and there is no tolerance to speak of. The most impressive thing about the NL is it's international relations; they've somehow managed to convinced every foreigner that it's paradise on earth while it's a troubled country like any other. But at least most other countries have nice landscapes and/or weather that isn't absolutely garbage.
@@EctoMorpheus You're right about all that, but still it's a better place to live than most other countries. Despite being a victim of the housing crisis I try to appreciate the good things we got going for us.
@@EctoMorpheus You just summed up my thoughts of 2007 that made me move to Brazil that very same year! More nature, better climate for sure and with a €/BRL exchange advantage of 5.63! Although my thoughts were based on the beginning of this mess based on my past experience such as the 2005 dutch fucking by entering this form of the EU against the Dutch voter's will and the start of the economy crises that many label as 2008 but actually already kicked in in, a year after that disrespectful and now proven disaster, in 2006 and yours on the reality of the outcome 20 years on as I was expecting to happen back then, we share the leaving part as a solution to stop wasting happy years! It'll take at least another decade or so for NL to get back on track if at all so I wouldn't waste my fime there if you have the means to just step out and keep an eye open from a distance!!
I ask myself as a Dutch person the same question We never pretend to be perfect. Perfect is an utopia. You can try to be perfect but never will reach it because it always can be better. Thank you for the explanation It gives more inside to the current situation.
A little while ago (the Barcelona video) we had a short discussion about taking a stance on issues and representing oneself as an authority (or not). Back then I said you pulled your punches too much and it led to a confusing tone with no clear direction, despite many other positive traits. Well, despite your sources preface claiming you had a similar problem here, I really like the assertion that Dutch persona is a culmination of the priest, merchant, and old man. Is this 100% accurate and defensible? Certainly not. But it's an interesting framing, and it gives me a much better understanding of the Netherlands that I had before (which was just random anecdotes and vague stereotypes that are even less accurate). I also thought the discussion of your consensus-based political system was quite good and didn't come off as unreasonably biased. You do a good job of being self-deprecating occasionally so you don't come off as overconfident. I think you're headed in the right direction. The tone is no longer confusing (although it's unfortunate to see you're so conflicted still, in the sources page). Production has been great. The 3d models have gotten a lot better. I like the sound design improvements. If I could offer one criticism, in some recent videos I get a bit lost on the trail of thought, so having a stronger narrative thread or video outline would be great. Altogether, I'm excited to see what you continue producing! P.S. Is the Patreon still around? If so you should plug it!
I think trying to frame the big 3 parties trough the lens of the merchent the old man and the priest also takes a lot away from it makes it sound like for example the housing crisis was created by the PvDA bickering to much. And it leaves big current parties with a strong effect on the current political crises like PVV entirely out of the discussion
@@piethein4355 the PVV is pretty new compared to the 3 main parties who go way back. so it makes sense to keep them out. They also have never been in power so pretty irrelevant.
@@piethein4355 To be honest Piet, the VVD, CDA, PVDA analogy was actually purely intended as a joke, and I did not mean for it to mean that PVDA is the cause of the housing crisis
Ik moet zeggen, dat dit echt een prachtige manier van uitleggen is. De Priester, de Handelaar en de Oude Man, wat een intrigerende manier om het te zien.
It’s amazing that you made this video. As a Dutchy myself I always have the feeling I need to break international friends out of their perfect fantasy about this country. It is all an image, a mask. Next time I’ll just refer to your video.
@@millenialmusings8451 As a Dutchy, I have to admit that our infrastructure has been great for the longest time. I just think that due to politics, it has been slowly become worse and worse. A lot of the great things are still great, but just going downwards. We have a great train system, but it has become more expensive to use, there aren't enough workers and the ones that are working in that sector aren't being paid enough and going on strikes. Same goes for our roads. It's still great, but the VVD (also known as the "vroom party" according to Rutte) has had this idea of just adding lanes to the highways to fix traffic, which obviously has become a lot worse, and they're absolutely 100% against road pricing. Road pricing is the idea that people should pay a small amount like one euro to driving on highways during busy hours, the benefit would be that people who don't have really need to drive will avoid driving there at that time. It has been implemented in countries like Sweden, where it has been shown to work, yet in the Netherlands, the coalition has consistently stated that there won't be a system like this implemented in the coalition agreement.
@@xcreeperbombx61 English is actually sort of based off of German, Dutch, French and a bunch of other languages. It's honestly the pure definition of what you said, but just the other way around.
Great video as usual! While different in a lot of ways, in Denmark we are facing similar issues of low trust to the politicians and currently 14 parties fighting for seats in parliament this coming election (with population of only 6 million people).
Dude this is so well explained, love how well you can connect centuries of history to a recent problem. I didn't even know were the word 'poldermodel' came from. And it's pretty hard how you can explain something complex through a simplification of three archetypes, but you do it so well! One thing I'd suggest as improvement is showing some terminology (like poldermodel or tweede kamer) on screen, might be tough to follow without for foreign audiences.
Putting the fucking idiots of society in parliament isn't a good thing, they're able to make themselves heard and effectuate change just fine without messing up parliamentary affairs.
The system is not designed for so many different groups. its slowly grinding to a halt because of it. For example the extreme amount of debates and the duration of them, cause every group wants to say what they think about the subject. We need a redesign of the system. Its just important to keep the voice of the people heard.
He was basically saying: to many parties wasn't how it used to be and used to work better. Because agreement between many parties is really hard to do. The more voices we add, the worse this gets. One thing he also said: maybe each political party is to small: maybe they need more people, more experienced people. The irony is: most of them are career politicians, they should already know what to do. That said: maybe increase the size of each party so we can keep experienced people in each party...?
Thank you for putting some of my thoughts far more eloquently than I could do myself, makes perfect sense. While not the be all and end all of the problems it certainly outlines some of the major issues we currently face as a nation
The housing crisis is the Merchant, the vvd's, fault. In the 10+ years they've been in power, they literally made laws to invite foreign investors to make more vacant housing, to speculate on.
I was searching for such content for a long time. Great work! Dutch people may be proud of you. Making objective content that we can show to foreign people that think it's a paradise here.
I typically watch most videos (especially edutainment like Wendover Productions and Not Just Bikes) on 2.0x speed or higher (Video Speed Controller extension for Chrome means I go up to 3.5x speed sometimes), but I realized pretty early on that I needed to take this one at 1.5x. There's so much to absorb, and the content is so beautiful. I'm a big fan of the channel so far, and I'm excited to watch it grow. It's already so great; I'm eager to see what further greatness it can achieve.
I struggle to adopt this method because while I know it would save me time and my attention would be satisfied more consistently, I fear diminishing the video's intended pacing and losing the potential, though marginal, benefits of active listening. Will my attention span grow ever narrower or will I become energized by the more frequent stimulation of ideas? Am I refusing to speed through life or forgetting to adapt my tempo for efficient learning?
I used to do that a lot but there is too many instances where I had to play back the video because of some info i didnt heard/understand correctly so now to have some pretension of saving time I just play it normally on the background while doing other thing (as if I leave the TV on) and let my attention do it jobs. Other reason I found out is that the slower you take in something, the better your mind retain it, so there're no real direct benefit but a trade-off (unless the video has no substantial thing to say then it would get quickly breezed through at 4x speed)
Excellent video! I love the Netherlands and it’s people. Sometimes I feel the Dutch don’t realize how stable and fair their governing bodies are compared to the rest of the world. I’ve lived in many countries and I’ve never seen integrity and work-ethic like in the Netherlands anywhere. I’m just trying to shed some light from an outsiders point of view.
We love to shit on ourselves, but are still proud of ourselves somewhere. I feel like we know, deep down, we're doing well, and we're proud of this. But to maintain this be need to be critical and keep trying to improve ourselves.
It's extremely stable thanks to the endless bickering of the billion different parties. Don't take me wrong, I see that as an often-but-not-always-good thing. Much much better than having one party in power, introducing their laws and policies, and the next party undoing all of it again...
today was one of the most productive youtube rabbit holes I have ever went down. I actually started taking notes. I am definitely gonna sign up for curiosity stream and nebula.
I live in Portugal, and honestly? This is so unproblematic compared to what we’re dealing with that this video just made me want to go to the NL even more
Lol don’t, Portugal has its problems but it also has beautiful expanses of nature. The Netherlands is an entirely man made landscape and it’s really rather bland and depressing
As a Dutch guy traveling around Southern Europe to search for a new place to live: you're not missing out on anything. Literally the only thing the NL has going for it is good infrastructure at the price of having absolutely zero nature, and high income at the price of even higher cost of living. Combine that with millions of people living on much too little land and constantly arguing about literally everything, add an enormous dose of polarization and admit to yourself that the Dutch are as intolerant as any other culture but just better at pretending the opposite. I'd stay in Portugal if I were you. So far it's the nicest place I've been and I consider moving there soon.
@EctoMorpheus portuguese natural here 👋 Portugal and Spain are AWESOME. Nature, safety, weather, food. But unless you are very well off, I'd consider taking a serious look at the financial and social state of affairs. Most strikingly, consider the quality of the health care system. In Portugal, plenty of hospital services are closed every week including emergencies, pediatric care, the birth/pregnant care teams, and more. Nurses and doctors have been signing legal documents that release them from responsability if a patient dies from a preventable problem. They claim they do not have the minimum conditions to do their job. This has been going on for two years at least. DESPITE high taxes and a left socialist government for years. On the financial side, you need to take a look at your particular situation. But for most people, it is much worse than the Netherlands. I'd suggest Spain before Portugal. I'm considering moving to the Netherlands myself.
Goede video man! Ik ben een bestuurskunde student en heb eerder met 1ste kamerlid mei li de vos gesproken en zij had het ook iver dat er te veel partijen waren en dat 2de kmr leden gewoon te weinig tijd en ondersteuning krijgen bij hun taak, maar niemand durft natuurlijk om meer geld te vragen om dat te faciliteren.
Dang didn’t realise you were on Nebula or I would have watched there. A common problem I see with Nebula cross posters is they don’t mention it until way into the video or near the end. Could you perhaps have the Nebula icon or something at the beginning of your video so people have some sort of prompt to make the switch, even if you don’t want to do the promotion piece until later? Overall really great video and always great to hear about more creators over on Nebula, my only problem as shown above is keeping track of you all and who is and isn’t on there. XD :)
College students that have the personality of a root vegetable voting Volt had me in freaking stitches. I'm sure everybody has different opinions on this video but to me this is the nail on the head on nearly everything.
@@Kromiball I remember going into a Cannabis cafe called Tweede Kamer ages ago in Amsterdam. I understood it to loosely mean meeting room but dunno. Wasa nice place anyway and I would recommend you all meet there to conduct politics from now on
Afgelopen jaar vind ik steeds meer video's op deze website waarin Nederland de hemel in word geprezen, vaak op het gebied van infrastructuur en landschapsinrichting. Ik maak mijzelf ook schuldig aan het kijken naar dit soort videos, vooral omdat er dingen geprezen worden die ik zelf als broodgewoon ziet. Meestal concludeer ik dat wij het hier supergoed hebben en de rest van de wereld gewoon klote is. Op hetzelfde moment merk ik dat de sfeer en de vertrouwen in de politiek in Nederland steeds minder word. Soms voelt het of Rutte enkel op de winkel wil passen. Ik merk bij mezelf dat ik steeds meer video's over Nederland skip omdat het vaak op hetzelfde neerkomt: fietspaden, walkable cities, goed ov, de hele NonJustBikes reutemateut. Laast vond ik een video van Rmtransit over hogesnelheidstreinen in de Benelux en het was om te kotsen. De HSL is al jaren de meest onbetrouwbare spoorlijn in Nederland waar 160 gereden word op een spoorlijn geschikt is voor 300, en een Canadees op een stoel probeert te overtuigen hoe dit nog beter is dan de Shinkansen en dat dit het toppunt is van het Nederlandse infrastructuurbeleid en het poldermodel. Alsof je porno aan het kijken bent waar je al 3 maanden niet geil meer van word. Hoe je Nederland uitlegde in de vorm van een priester, koopman en een ouwe zeikerd slaat de psychische spijker op de Nederlandse borrelplank. Nederland is een land waar veel geluld word maar op een wonderlijke wijze uiteindelijk toch noch word gepoest. Niet ieder land heeft dat gelukkig
Ik ben dus zo'n oude zeikerd, erg rijp voor mijn leeftijd zullen we maar zeggen, maar dat is omdat ik denk in termen van vooruitgang. Er is geen reden waarom het land niet elk jaar of elke 4 jaar een stukje beter gemaakt zou worden. Maar het wordt slechter gemaakt, en dan komt weer iemand met een verhaaltje hoe goed we het hier hebben in verhouding tot een of andere shithole. Doet er niet toe, het was je taak het land te verbeteren en je hebt gefaald door het slecher te maken, punt.
I feel like we need more critique of European countries, trend "america bad" is really hurting because i'm able not being able to complain my country and restraining divine Polish right to complain about Polish state is animal cruelty.
Guess it's a "grass is greener next door" bias or a sort of exotic appeal where people don't know how bad it really is in a foreign country. Since there's a lot of americans online, they tend to focus on american problems more and less on other countries problems, which creates an exotic effect towards said countries. As a canadian, i wasn't aware of the issues facing dutch people on a daily basis like that. Every country have their own shares of problems, my own included.
Really like your video. And I always wondered how German poltics would be without a percentage hurdle, because in Germany it is really frustrating to see that over 10% of the votes are not represented because the hurdle is to high, preventing new voices from being heard almost completly and gives the big parties a monopoly (or at least an unfaire advantige) on politics which gets worse when you consider that most Germans can't agree with any party currently in parlament. In my opinion there should be a balance that allows small parties with new ideas to rise and prevents the fractioning of parlaments, so there should be a hurdle but that should not be to high.
you could have a ranked choice voting system, we even have this a tiny bit in the netherlands although not according to voter choice in the form of party afiliations
@Bastian I think it's good for Germany to be cautious with the small parties due to the legacy of the NSDAP that keeps returning. I think it's good how Germany can have real change by changing from CDU to SPD. That's not possible in the Netherlands. We always end up with centrist policies: Social democrats which are forced to make huge budget cuts, classic liberals forced to become cyclists, progressives which are forced to continue Clean Coal. Parties too far left-wing or right-wing refuse to cooperate and get disqualified from governing the country next time.
@@hendrikdependrik1891 I understand what you mean but what you described is no longer the truth, the SPD and CDU don't bring any change, both are corrupt as hell and have forgotten there own ideals. The social democrats are no longer social democrats but centrist with no agenda and the CDU's view of Christian democracy is to invest in coal and to financially support the car Industry that doesn't need help. The barria for smal parties are now just there to keep them in power, which is sad because over 10% of the votes don't count because of that. Also they now want to implement the same thing in the EU Parlament, to further empower themselfs in votes. It doesn't even make sense there because of the grouping system in the Parlament
Oh man never thought about it like that. Guess i should be lucky, well more than germany then i guess. And its true, one of the biggest parties now had no seats last vote.
1 year later, and now we are another election further, you video kinda showed what was coming. The field is changing dramatically indeed and I hope for the better.
I am new to the Netherlands. And as a water engineer I found really interesting your insight on the connection of the beginings of water management and Dutch social and political development. I would love to have a coffee or beer one day and have some thoughtful conversations with you, maybe put it in your calendar for next year 😂. Please let me know how to connect. Cheers.
Portugal when making coalitions is like: "do you agree with the 3rd paragraph of the constitution? if no, support PSD in a coalition; if yes, then support PS". Be greatfull to the fact that you don't know who is going to be your prime minister before the election. But in the end, my country is the oposite of the Netherlands. There is nothing serious to disagree uppon. I mean, 70% of parliament is basically 2 parties that are painfully the same (despite me voting for one of them), criticizing each other for doing what the other did, only saying diferent things. That's something I admire in the netherlands, variety. Our parties are basically the same, the one that governs is the one that promisses to raise pensions the most next legislature. Just throw a number. You can see yourself as more orange or more pink, but in the end, we are all part of the portuguese hive-mind whose most decisions are shity
@@Duck-wc9de Then there’s the Chega party. A party that people vote for as a protest rather than principle. A party that is against so many things but not for anything. Not to mention a party of rhetoric. If I were there, I’d much rather vote for one of the two main parties, as opposed to a party that thrives on problems in society.
This is what will happen even in many other european countries in next elections. I am not literally happy because of that, but I understand it. Today governments are totaly useless and incompetent, we have the worst economical crisis since 20s, you need 3 salaries to pay rent and electricity and politicians show you how many stuff they sent to Ukraine instead of talking about problems of their people + in west, there is the "muslim problem" but here in eastern wing of EU, we just have Ukrainians instead of muslims and it's pretty much the same. Everyone who lives near some lodging house for ukrainian or romanian workers will vote some nationalist party who promises get rid if these "migrants." That's how it works. It's fault of traditional political parties that they don't care about problems of ordinary people.
I've never felt more Dutch than watching this video, all Amazing video. The only thing I'd wish for is that the things to read (statements, graphs, citations) would stay on a little longer to actually be able to read them (or the highlighted parts anyway) without having to pause the video. Vox always does this really well in terms of timing. :) But thanks for the great explanation, I'll definitely share this with my internacho-friends :)
As alwasy a good video thank you. And if i may i want to add something on you calling out the dutch parliament for being too small compared to the amount of people they should be representing. I think that it is also a problem that people do not find themselfs to be heard whether they are in or outside of a party, and since the treshold is pretty low to enter (only 64.000 votes) you are always better off going into De tweede kamer (parliment) itself. So having more people in the parliment would be good but i think we also need a way to represent small one time opinions on a more consistant basis so they will not go into parliment with just one or two goals. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. Oh and respect to that First call
Is it bad if special parties come in de tweede kamer, just in one election cycle? Simply because they had a specific mix of points, that mattered only in that election?
@@nielskorpel8860 Well yes, for i think that if you are going into De tweede kamer you are going to feel the pressure to deal with every problem the country has, not just the one you want to focus upon. For example you have the small party called Bij1. This is a party that has been made by Silvana Simons with the intention to combat racism. But in the last tweede kamer election it seems visible to me that she has the pressure to deal with every issue that the Netherlands has and therefore cannot (in my opinion) put all her efforts into her main goal, fighting racism. Another example is the BBB, they are a party that came up to defend the farmers in the Netherlands and just as Bij1 they are right to do so. But i am worried that they too will feel too much pressure to deal with everything and then fail to concentrate all their efforts to this single goal. That is why i think that a single goal party needs a better way to express their opinion, i fear (a fear that has come true with some) that they loose time by not doing the things that would solve their problem.
@@basscheffener1564 but i think if they stand there and think by themselves, oh i fight for racism but now i can also give my opinion about other subjects. And i agree with you that the main goal is on the background then. But i think that party should just merge with a party that is a lot like the same as theirs. Bc you can make a party bigger, and also make more diversity. If you have a party that is for example central left, is for more equality and that kinda stuff then i think it would be benificial for a party as BIJ1 to join them, but i think and i don't think they are wrong, they wouldn't merge bc they want to do it themselves. I don't think only a bigger treshold with passing the votes through another party is the best way. If you can give a party your votes but still have some influence or like a section in that party. Like GL BIJ1 so GL is the main party but they also have a section BIJ1 where people can fight and debate for that one topic. And if one of those sections get so big or a lot of people of that section are getting in the House of Representives they should apply for being their own party but i think it should be 3 or 4 seats or something like that. I think if you keep having a lot of parties for single goals, it will be bad, bc everyone can then go into the house of representives and fight for one subject. I mean like then you get the Fishers party for the Fisherman , or like the building party for the builders etc. And all those parties wouldn't only talk about fish or about building it would be nice if you just had sections in parties that have like their own representives but still are under that party. But that also could have problems but i think if they only fight for their problems and only will participate in BIJ1 for example racism debates and BBB go to CDA or JA21 and do farmers debates. then they could focus more on that subject so i think the debates would be better and the laws. But thats just what i'm thinking
Coming from an American, this is really informative. Everyone knows that our country is rife with problems and political instability, and we lag far behind our friends in Europe. But many Americans think this means that Europe is this utopia where everything is perfect and there’s no corruption or dysfunction, and that’s obviously not the case, even for a country as forward-thinking as the Netherlands. There’s many things we can and should learn from them, but pretending that Europe is perfect and that there’s nothing redeeming about our own country doesn’t help anything.
Here's a redeeming quality for you, there's no country like the USA to mobilize people to get something done that needs urgent fixing. Here in the Netherlands we only discuss and talk about it, up to a point where the problem either disappears - or is beyond fixing.
Yeah, the more I've traveled and talked to people from other countries, the more it's become apparent that part of the reason people move somewhere else and see it as an improvement is that they lack the cultural context to fully see all the issues that are present. We all grow up steeped in the issues faced by the places we're from, and so it's much easier for us to see those problems than it is for us to see the problems of a different place. This definitely isn't the full picture, and some places definitely do a better job of certain things than others. But I think this is part of why you often hear such different things from people who grew up somewhere and people who moved there
@@PuzzleQodec Given how we responded to COVID, which was on par with 3rd world countries, I think we've lost that. Our country is a total disaster and is getting worse every year.
America doesn't lag far behind Europe. It soars far ahead. Europe has all these things that look good on paper, but fail to account for one thing... Culture. European culture is strict, collective based, and hostile to creativity and risk. Standing out and wanting to do something new is seen as silly. Europe may have better healthcare, it may have generous welfare states, it may have stronger unions, but almost none of the changes that have completley changes peoples lives forever came from Europe - they came from America. Some Europeans will claim there's no silicon valley in Europe because of "pratical reasons", but they fail to recognize why there's no silicon valley - that exact reasoning. It's not "practical" to have individuals and governments invest in such a risky industry with a lot of failure associated with it. It's not practical to give people writing stuff on a computer such high salaries to do it after just 3 years of college, and it isn't practical to continue to invest in it even after years of being in the red. But you know what? It sure is fun to try, and it aint something others would do. That's what separates America from Europe, and it what makes America the greatest country ever that just simply continues to grow.
Great video, graphically amazing and content wise great. I only got one major disagreement, which is very few for such a complicated (and possible controversial topic/discussion). Keep up the great work
Everything is relative. To the slum citizen in Nigeria, Gambia looks like heaven. Tosomeone in Gambia, Morocco looks like heaven. In Morocco, Bosnia looks like heaven, and in Bosnia, the Netherlands looks like heaven. Until each of those people actual live in those countries for a while and figure out that it isn't all gold.
As a dutch person i am incredibly Lucky to live here but theres alot going on here right now and almost none of it is really good. It's going to a way and i suppose we'll have to see where it all goes
I've recently become enamored with the Dutch thanks to NotJustBikes. It's good to see the other side too. This was a really well made video. My only rebuttal and question is I think political gridlock is becoming a global problem. The US Congress can't accomplish anything useful and we only have two parties. And there seems to be a housing crisis in every developed country. I'd rather have a gridlocked system that is representative than a gridlocked system that forces me to choose between a "turd stroopwafel" and "giant douche". Maybe The Netherlands isn't perfect but I still think you all have a lot to teach us. Thanks again!
@@diogoantunes5473 Given that everyone who lives in the South Pole is a research scientist with presumably decent pay (or at least living expenses covered+pay), I'd say probably the South Pole.
Good video, I left the country 2 years ago. But I have trouble expressing what it is in the Netherlands that made me leave. This has given a little clarity.
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Please check out: go.nebula.tv/hoog It makes videos like this possible, and it gives you access to really, really wonderful documentaries.
ERRORS: Bargaining duration should be in days NOT months.
Sources:
hoogisamonkey.substack.com/p/sources-the-netherlands-isnt-perfect
It's still not possible with dutch debit cards, IDEAL or PayPal without a credit card attached to it though
Not sure why you weren't satisfied with it (as you say on the source page), this is a really good video that ties a functional and clear explanation of how the dutch government works to deeper historical trends, with a nice analogy that brings it all together!
A good read on communal management of common pool resources is Elinor Ostrom's Governing the Commons. Apparently the Spanish had similar water use councils stretching back centuries, although it seems like they didn't have an influence on modern political identity to the same extent as the Dutch.
Wow you actually posted in 5 days 👍
🥵Thank you daddy hoog 🥵
@@MeijerMovies I’ll bring it up
I find it strange that small parties should be bad, because there aren't enough people per party, to check all the dossiers.
After all, our constitution demands, in essence, that there be 150 one-man-parties in de tweede kamer.
Together, these 150 single people should check the government on all the dossiers, and since no single person could ever do that on their own, it follows that they must rely on each other, across these single-person-party boundaries. Actually, they are not 150 parties, but 150 people. Consitutionally, parties do not exist.
It makes sense that these 150 parlementarians make alliances per subject, and that they make majorities per law.
But we have decided to make default alliances (called parties) and default majorities (called coalitions).
Suddenly, these party members can afford to be skittish about trusting across party lines.
And so they are skittish. And this is the result.
And that is what it is, in my opinion:
A complaint about parties being too small, is actually a complaint about having to trust other parlementarians across party boundaries.
It's hilariously clear you're a Dutchy. Only Dutch people can be this venomous about Dutch political parties while still somehow including an undertone of pride about the system as a whole, love it
this strikes me as a very dutch thing to do 😅
criticism of Belgium and subliminal Pride
You put it in better words then I ever could.
As a Canadian we do it too. Especially when comparing to america
I thought he wasn't though? But in any case he really is
@@Duck-wc9de not even valid criticism of Belgium just criticism of Belgium because its Belgian
“We saved a lot of money by not cooking anything remotely delicious” did not expect this 😂
Ben ik het niet echt mee eens, stamppot Boerenkool of nog beter Stamppot Rode Bieten, maar dan vooral die van mijn moeder 🤪
Frikandelbroodje: "Am I a joke to you?"
@@blastanoizz2 ja
Anything north or east of Belgium is known for their substandard food. Anything south or west going to have good cuisines.
@@Homer-OJ-Simpson >implying snails are better than Currywurst
How delusional are you
The Netherlands isn't perfect?! Why wasn't I informed?!
This video is great. The merchant, the priest, and the angry old man is so accurate. Well done as usual, Hoog.
The Netherlands definitely isn't perfect ... it's just better than anywhere else I've ever lived.
In particular, the really sad part about the housing crisis in the Netherlands is that it's even worse in Canada. 😔
And the response to corona was so much better here than where I used to live in Ontario.
And I still vastly prefer the coalition infighting of the Netherlands to Canada, where instead of voting for who you want, you have to vote strategically to avoid the other guy getting in, because a party with only ~33% of the vote can get a complete majority to enact whatever legislation they want.
Housing crisis? Which developed country hasnt got one of those?
Make video about Rotterdam again. Dhank youe
@@moartems5076 Our housing is the worst in the world.
There also is a lot of strategic voting in the Netherlands. I wonder why tho. The system is pretty encouraging to voting for smaller parties
@@baathi7358 it's also for a good reason. We are a small country that is much more densely populated than most other countries. Our housing crisis is bound to be worse than that of other countries merely because of that.
We have a land area of about 40.000 sq km. I bet you can easily draw several 40.000 sq km connected areas on a US map or elsewhere in Europe where the housing crisis is even worse than here. It's compensated by more sparsely populated areas over there.
Unfortunately for the EU the mobility is not on the US level, mainly due to language barriers. If housing prices are too high in California you can move to Texas, and that is less of a step than emigrating from the Netherlands. Especially people with lower education are very unlikely to do that.
The moment I realized you were Dutch, I was already expecting a jab at Belgium. And tbh, as a Belgian myself, I agree. Belgian politics are something I wouldn't touch with a 10m stick
Trying to understand the org chart that is the Beligan Government is definitely an exercise in futility
As a Brit, the only thing I know about Belgian politics is that you had a system where if you did something on one side of the country, you had to do the same or similar thing on the other side. I guess Belgium is Belgium! Lol
@@mdhazeldine What you're referring to is Waffle Iron Politics or la politique du gaufrier and wafelijzerpolitiek. Which was the way Beligum worked before Flanders and Wallonia gained more regional autonomy.
@@kibaanazuka332 Yeah. I learned a little bit about it from the Tim Traveller channel, about the Charleroi metro system that got built and never opened. Crazy story.
Dutch politics is even worse nowadays. All wef puppets
"It's not easy to have experts on financial, education, foreign, and green energy policy with only one or two people unless they're TH-camrs, of course, who are experts on everything." I died from laughter! ☠
And TH-cam commenters I might assert.
the way it walks too!
It's very hard to see expertise in the outcomes. Somehow this always gets lost in translation or summin.
"But Belgium is Belgium"
Enough said 🤣
he's right, you know. Our politics are a source of frustration and amusement. But in the end, not a single political system is perfect.
- some Belgian bloke
@@SirThanksalot_1 Belgium is that thing that keeps working
and you dont know how
@@SirThanksalot_1 but deep down we love our southern brothers and we would not want anyone els tere
@@Thefreakyfreek Maybe the french so we could pick on them (even more)
@@kars1504 this is the way
Volt lets students without personality find all their meaning in European Integration
I've been personally attacked
Yeah as someone who voted for Volt I am a bit embarrassed
He just picked on Volt for probably personal reasons. There are much dumber parties out there.
This man just woke up and chose violence when he made this.
My god 😂
@@dragonslayer2255 why lmao, he clearly just doesn't like them
@@almerindaromeira8352 VOLTIST GESIGNALEERD
RIP to the Americans who thought this was gonna be a huge expose and takedown on the Dutch bicycle system.
EDIT 2024: Guess the title was completely changed or something.
LOL, now that I think about I'd bet money there was at least one person like that.
I thought it was a jab against it LMAOO
as an American
This is what the Dutchies wanted. More then ten years VVD on the top, and now look very surprised how our country is getting destroyed.
@@CasperGamess wtf is vvd
The part where he said "like the cheese sandwich for lunch, an example of frugality that so extreme that is embarrassing" had me dying.
Kaas én vlees op je boterham? Poeh poeh, wat ben je rijk!
Maar het werkt! Waarom afval?
@@dabakonader I know French, German and English (other languages too but they are not relevant)
But I do not know dutch, then tell me
WHY DO I UNDERSTAND YOU ?!?
@@red_roy Dutch is old english and german combined. Thats why.
@@dabakonader almost true. german and dutch come from the same language, they evolved together. English is influenced a lot by the same language, as well. this means there is a lot of similarities.
I don't like the "let's make the people be less representable by following Germany" sentiment. Enforcing it also conveniently makes all the big parties even bigger without any extra effort, so obviously you won't easily find a big party (voter) who is against it
I think you’re right
@@hoogyoutube It's not a free choice. In a representative democracy the treshold is what it is. There is a number of votes for each seat in parliament, otherwise it wouldn't be representative as in one man, one vote. An artificial treshold is undemocratic in it's nature, it's up to the voters whether they want smaller parties.
And smaller parties can grow big, but not if they are artificially blocked out. The obvious reason big parties want tresholds is pointed out well above, but they use their own incompetence to work with the representation the voters put in and the ungovernability their own big party systems, which are not the product of the legal/constitutional system and even conflict with it, as an excuse.
Totally agree. The 5% threshold in Germany becomes more and more an undemocratic feature because a larger percentage of voters are not represented in parliaments. It's more a problem in some states than the federal parliament but if >10% of votes are basically thrown out and over-represent bigger parties you have a problem at some point. It frustrates voters of newer parties that are often favoured by younger voters. The reasoning for this is always the Weimarer Republik where the number of parties in parliament paved the way for the Nazis but this is just a very, very incomplete way of thinking about it.
BTW, the 5% threshold is not used for the European Parliament elections nor local election.
In the end it doesnt help anyway. AfD is polling at 20%, well over the threshold.
@@spinni81There is a good reason for the 5% threshold. Lessons learnt from the time of Weimar Republic. I agree it closes out quite a few votes not being represented in parliament but it helps to keep coalitions reasonably small. The current 3-party coalition is already a pain in the ass when it comes to decision making. A coalition with even more parties is a nightmare. And that's what would also happen in Germany without the threshold.
Been living in the NL only for one year but I found the merchant, priest, and angry old man analogy damn accurate!
in that analogy, i mis the farmer 😅
Me 2
@@singularityscan And the idealistic young person who doesn't yet know whether it wants to be man or woman, but is filled with beautiful plans for the 'future' while enjoying 'helpful' means.
The angry old man is a recent invention of the modern priests, those who preach the original sin, guilt and repent about nature, climate and somehow even the past. It's just to discredit those who complain the preacher and the merchant are messing up in their cynical cooperation.
Later he basically said PvdA is the old man, so maybe it should just have been: worker or employee or something
As a dutchy myself, I can tell this is pretty accurate. As people have said, the old man, merchant and priest analogy is a sharp metaphor. And the housing crisis is in my opinion one of, if not the biggest, issue of our country.
When it comes to the political side of things, if I had any critisism against it, its that it feels like the most important decisions get stuck in the mud so to speak. Stuck in a political development hell. And continuing with that analogy, it also feels like a lot of decisions get dropped on the cutting room floor. (Looking at you, migration laws)
agreed, the housing crisis is shit idk if I am gonna be able to get a home by the time I have to look (which is in like 7 years even so quite a while still) and then there are refugees too who need homes too, all of it is too much... Groen Links should really let the housing standards climate wise loosen a bit otherwise it will not be fixed for another 20-30 years :/
@@ysbrandd Honestly I think all the parties should loosen up a bit, no point in bickering when it's too late. When it comes to the refugee crisis, the old unprogressive bags that run PvdA for example are slowing that wa-a-a-y down. Same goes for the emissions produced by farming, being both well overplayed by opposing parties for the animals and the one for the farmers. (Look, I don't care what political views you have, you must agree, there's always a better voting option then those two parties)(honestly I don't know why they exist)
When push comes to shove, an American or an Englishman will have a vision and do something. Even if it's a stupid choice (Liz Truss mini-budget), better a bad action then no action.
The Dutch however, will spend years hearing everyone's opinion and then usually just do nothing. Which is often the best choice, but very infuriating!
Personally i think the many parties are a result of lack of party disipline and the coalition agreement that makes the tweede kamer almost useless as the coalition blocks every form of true oppositon in order to adhere to this agreement.
If you combine that with a goverment that doesnt listen to their own constituenty, but rather to vague unelected globalist or eu doctrine people will anoyed. They fail to close down borders or dial down climate actions and generally do things that the majority wants. If the big parties don't solve the problems, you'll find people are going to walk away to someone else. possible a less stable party is going to take over. This is also not uniquely for the dutch, it happens all over europe.
@@Ikbeneengeit I do agree with that on some levels, but I'd take the inaction of the Netherlands over the two-party system of America any day. I'd rather have the many options I have, then the two terrible options that they've got. Trump was such a disaster, that a centrist must be mad to vote on anything else but Biden.
Absolutely stunning content! 🔥
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Des war jetzt unerwartet
@@LivakProductions die leben in den niederlanden?
wieso unerwartet?
ohaa simpli
@@LivakProductions du meinst ihr
A Simpli comment with that little upvotes? That‘s a first for me
A Priest, a Merchant, and an Angry Old man.
In short: The Netherlands are a Calvinist culture.
What is so pathetic is that that same Calvinist culture has infected and infested the USA, which now has the same condemnatory attitude towards everyone as pure sinners. Especially in the sex stuff, where slut-shaming is intense! Americans like to sleep around, but then tut-tut anyone who is outed. Welcome to John Calvin.
Hoog who are you? You've gotta be one of the most talented storytellers I've ever heard
6:40 "The Netherlands stands out on top. Now you have Belgium, sometimes... But Belgium is Belgium" That just cracked me up so hard how you left it at that without saying more about what you mean cause we all know what you mean hahahahhahaha...
Belgium gonna Belgium ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ That's just a typical Belgian thing that Belgium gonna do.
Ik vind vooral de donkere sfeer van de video perfect aansluiten bij de serieuze toon die je aandraagt. Wát een topvideo.
hij gaat machtige vijanden maken. Ik zou stil blijven.
I'm assuming he's first generation at most too with his pronunciations. But yeah, any publicity is good publicity ;)
@@andyc9902Nee, nu is het de tijd voor verandering, niet stilte
Deze man voorspelt even de toekomst, top!
toekomst?! Ik weet niet onder welke steen u zich bevindt, maar dit speelt zich nu af hè.
@@chrisschramaja en dit is een jaar geleden geupload snuggere jan
@@SpaceSightAir klopt, maar uw opmerking is van 3 dagen geleden toch? Als u dan zelf zo'n snuggere jan bent, waarom tekst u dan "voorspelt" in plaats van "voorspelde"? Just saying.
@@SpaceSightAir O, wacht u bent een ander persoon. Juist.
Once again a great video. A lot of videos I watch about the Netherlands are very positive about the way we do certain things around here. And I think it’s a good thing as a Dutch person to look around a appreciate some of the great things we’ve accomplished as a nation. But for outsiders it’s also important to see that we’re far from perfect and have our own demons.
(honestly, your demons seem pretty cute)
@@KayleBradley from distance...come closer...
@@KayleBradleynot so cute now, are they? I'm 100% Dutch and the NL is a shithole to the point that I'm currently traveling around, looking for a better place to live. There is no nature, everyone is in constant argument with each other about literally every tiniest thing, the cost of living (and especially housing) is ridiculous (2 people with decent salary can barely afford an average house, if at all, and rent matches house prices), political polarization is bigger than ever and there is no tolerance to speak of. The most impressive thing about the NL is it's international relations; they've somehow managed to convinced every foreigner that it's paradise on earth while it's a troubled country like any other. But at least most other countries have nice landscapes and/or weather that isn't absolutely garbage.
@@EctoMorpheus You're right about all that, but still it's a better place to live than most other countries. Despite being a victim of the housing crisis I try to appreciate the good things we got going for us.
@@EctoMorpheus You just summed up my thoughts of 2007 that made me move to Brazil that very same year!
More nature, better climate for sure and with a €/BRL exchange advantage of 5.63!
Although my thoughts were based on the beginning of this mess based on my past experience such as the 2005 dutch fucking by entering this form of the EU against the Dutch voter's will and the start of the economy crises that many label as 2008 but actually already kicked in in, a year after that disrespectful and now proven disaster, in 2006 and yours on the reality of the outcome 20 years on as I was expecting to happen back then, we share the leaving part as a solution to stop wasting happy years!
It'll take at least another decade or so for NL to get back on track if at all so I wouldn't waste my fime there if you have the means to just step out and keep an eye open from a distance!!
Wow. I didn’t know the Netherlands could be so…imperfect. This video is so good and the lighting is just spot on🤩
I love your channel
Holy cow my mans made a whole movie level production
I ask myself as a Dutch person the same question
We never pretend to be perfect. Perfect is an utopia. You can try to be perfect but never will reach it because it always can be better.
Thank you for the explanation It gives more inside to the current situation.
Here after PVV's landslide victory
this vid about to blow up i guess
Poah, schitterend, echt schitterend; nu tijd om m'n jointje aan te steken, fijne avond heren
Love your videos and 3D graphics! You’re such an inspiration!!!
A little while ago (the Barcelona video) we had a short discussion about taking a stance on issues and representing oneself as an authority (or not). Back then I said you pulled your punches too much and it led to a confusing tone with no clear direction, despite many other positive traits. Well, despite your sources preface claiming you had a similar problem here, I really like the assertion that Dutch persona is a culmination of the priest, merchant, and old man. Is this 100% accurate and defensible? Certainly not. But it's an interesting framing, and it gives me a much better understanding of the Netherlands that I had before (which was just random anecdotes and vague stereotypes that are even less accurate). I also thought the discussion of your consensus-based political system was quite good and didn't come off as unreasonably biased. You do a good job of being self-deprecating occasionally so you don't come off as overconfident.
I think you're headed in the right direction. The tone is no longer confusing (although it's unfortunate to see you're so conflicted still, in the sources page). Production has been great. The 3d models have gotten a lot better. I like the sound design improvements. If I could offer one criticism, in some recent videos I get a bit lost on the trail of thought, so having a stronger narrative thread or video outline would be great. Altogether, I'm excited to see what you continue producing!
P.S. Is the Patreon still around? If so you should plug it!
I think trying to frame the big 3 parties trough the lens of the merchent the old man and the priest also takes a lot away from it makes it sound like for example the housing crisis was created by the PvDA bickering to much. And it leaves big current parties with a strong effect on the current political crises like PVV entirely out of the discussion
@@piethein4355 the PVV is pretty new compared to the 3 main parties who go way back. so it makes sense to keep them out. They also have never been in power so pretty irrelevant.
@@piethein4355 To be honest Piet, the VVD, CDA, PVDA analogy was actually purely intended as a joke, and I did not mean for it to mean that PVDA is the cause of the housing crisis
@@randomviewer3494realistically, several countries in Europe went for Italy with the 5 star and France with Macron are just a couple examples
Ik moet zeggen, dat dit echt een prachtige manier van uitleggen is. De Priester, de Handelaar en de Oude Man, wat een intrigerende manier om het te zien.
It’s amazing that you made this video. As a Dutchy myself I always have the feeling I need to break international friends out of their perfect fantasy about this country. It is all an image, a mask. Next time I’ll just refer to your video.
You must be one of the few who do that...most Dutch try to convince me that everything works great here 😅 I see with my own eyes that it doesn't...
Blame it on YT channels like Not Just Bikes. That guy is prolly on Dutch payroll to shill non stop about Amsterdam bike lanes. Lol
@@millenialmusings8451 As a Dutchy, I have to admit that our infrastructure has been great for the longest time. I just think that due to politics, it has been slowly become worse and worse. A lot of the great things are still great, but just going downwards. We have a great train system, but it has become more expensive to use, there aren't enough workers and the ones that are working in that sector aren't being paid enough and going on strikes. Same goes for our roads. It's still great, but the VVD (also known as the "vroom party" according to Rutte) has had this idea of just adding lanes to the highways to fix traffic, which obviously has become a lot worse, and they're absolutely 100% against road pricing. Road pricing is the idea that people should pay a small amount like one euro to driving on highways during busy hours, the benefit would be that people who don't have really need to drive will avoid driving there at that time. It has been implemented in countries like Sweden, where it has been shown to work, yet in the Netherlands, the coalition has consistently stated that there won't be a system like this implemented in the coalition agreement.
Je content wordt per upload beter, Hoog. Ga zo door!
Today I learrned Dutch looks like English with a stroke
@@xcreeperbombx61 He used two English words in that sentence tho. (Well Content is a French word but he used it in the English way)
@@xcreeperbombx61 English is actually sort of based off of German, Dutch, French and a bunch of other languages. It's honestly the pure definition of what you said, but just the other way around.
Once again, you've created an astonishingly well produced video. Love your content mate, keep it up.
The fact that this is recommended now while it was made a year ago 💀
TH-cam knows what they are doing.
Great video as usual! While different in a lot of ways, in Denmark we are facing similar issues of low trust to the politicians and currently 14 parties fighting for seats in parliament this coming election (with population of only 6 million people).
Old angry man is Maarten van Rossem
Als hij niet de inspiratie is voor dat personage dan weet ik het ook niet meer.
Such a good and well made video. Ga zo door !
"Now you have Belgium sometimes, but Belgium is Belgium."
As a belgian i completely understand what you mean by that and i fully agree.
"But Belgium is Belgium."
As someone living there, for both good and bad, I agree.
Dude this is so well explained, love how well you can connect centuries of history to a recent problem. I didn't even know were the word 'poldermodel' came from. And it's pretty hard how you can explain something complex through a simplification of three archetypes, but you do it so well! One thing I'd suggest as improvement is showing some terminology (like poldermodel or tweede kamer) on screen, might be tough to follow without for foreign audiences.
an update with the pvv elections being needed aside, i love how the youtube autotranscription heard toyota camry for tweede kamer
"there are too many parties, our representative democracy is literally too representative!"
Yeah... let's keep it that way.
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Let's vote on who we want to kick out!
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Putting the fucking idiots of society in parliament isn't a good thing, they're able to make themselves heard and effectuate change just fine without messing up parliamentary affairs.
The system is not designed for so many different groups. its slowly grinding to a halt because of it. For example the extreme amount of debates and the duration of them, cause every group wants to say what they think about the subject. We need a redesign of the system. Its just important to keep the voice of the people heard.
He was basically saying: to many parties wasn't how it used to be and used to work better. Because agreement between many parties is really hard to do. The more voices we add, the worse this gets. One thing he also said: maybe each political party is to small: maybe they need more people, more experienced people. The irony is: most of them are career politicians, they should already know what to do. That said: maybe increase the size of each party so we can keep experienced people in each party...?
Thank you for putting some of my thoughts far more eloquently than I could do myself, makes perfect sense. While not the be all and end all of the problems it certainly outlines some of the major issues we currently face as a nation
those 3D models and animations are just god level 🔥
Amazing motion graphics and production quality, bravo!
Dit is de Hoog-waardige content die we nodig hebben
The housing crisis is the Merchant, the vvd's, fault. In the 10+ years they've been in power, they literally made laws to invite foreign investors to make more vacant housing, to speculate on.
I was searching for such content for a long time. Great work! Dutch people may be proud of you. Making objective content that we can show to foreign people that think it's a paradise here.
Yeah maybe it would finally get a little less crowned. I mean, sorry, but come on now... Half a million a year?? Fucking really??
Still a paradise compared to germany 😅
Source: am German.
@@gloriascientiae7435half a million what a year?
I typically watch most videos (especially edutainment like Wendover Productions and Not Just Bikes) on 2.0x speed or higher (Video Speed Controller extension for Chrome means I go up to 3.5x speed sometimes), but I realized pretty early on that I needed to take this one at 1.5x. There's so much to absorb, and the content is so beautiful.
I'm a big fan of the channel so far, and I'm excited to watch it grow. It's already so great; I'm eager to see what further greatness it can achieve.
I struggle to adopt this method because while I know it would save me time and my attention would be satisfied more consistently, I fear diminishing the video's intended pacing and losing the potential, though marginal, benefits of active listening. Will my attention span grow ever narrower or will I become energized by the more frequent stimulation of ideas? Am I refusing to speed through life or forgetting to adapt my tempo for efficient learning?
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I used to do that a lot but there is too many instances where I had to play back the video because of some info i didnt heard/understand correctly so now to have some pretension of saving time I just play it normally on the background while doing other thing (as if I leave the TV on) and let my attention do it jobs. Other reason I found out is that the slower you take in something, the better your mind retain it, so there're no real direct benefit but a trade-off (unless the video has no substantial thing to say then it would get quickly breezed through at 4x speed)
@@NotJustBikes don’t worry, me and I guess most people never put a video of yours faster than 1x
Least fucked up attention span
Your videos are truly of incredible quality and value! Thank you so much for spending your time on them!
Excellent video!
I love the Netherlands and it’s people. Sometimes I feel the Dutch don’t realize how stable and fair their governing bodies are compared to the rest of the world. I’ve lived in many countries and I’ve never seen integrity and work-ethic like in the Netherlands anywhere.
I’m just trying to shed some light from an outsiders point of view.
Laughed at work ethic
We love to shit on ourselves, but are still proud of ourselves somewhere. I feel like we know, deep down, we're doing well, and we're proud of this. But to maintain this be need to be critical and keep trying to improve ourselves.
It's extremely stable thanks to the endless bickering of the billion different parties. Don't take me wrong, I see that as an often-but-not-always-good thing. Much much better than having one party in power, introducing their laws and policies, and the next party undoing all of it again...
As an outsider who’s visited the Netherlands a couple times it was a very depressing place with very beautiful architecture
You are so funny 😂 how long do you live here? 1 year?
today was one of the most productive youtube rabbit holes I have ever went down. I actually started taking notes. I am definitely gonna sign up for curiosity stream and nebula.
I'm glad to see TH-camrs address "The Dutch Question" :)
Great video as always pal. Was really enjoyable to watch.
“A random college kid in a basement”
You sir got my like
I live in Portugal, and honestly? This is so unproblematic compared to what we’re dealing with that this video just made me want to go to the NL even more
Lol don’t, Portugal has its problems but it also has beautiful expanses of nature. The Netherlands is an entirely man made landscape and it’s really rather bland and depressing
@@callumgill7019 Yeah, that's why we flee to the south every summer XD
As a Dutch guy traveling around Southern Europe to search for a new place to live: you're not missing out on anything. Literally the only thing the NL has going for it is good infrastructure at the price of having absolutely zero nature, and high income at the price of even higher cost of living. Combine that with millions of people living on much too little land and constantly arguing about literally everything, add an enormous dose of polarization and admit to yourself that the Dutch are as intolerant as any other culture but just better at pretending the opposite. I'd stay in Portugal if I were you. So far it's the nicest place I've been and I consider moving there soon.
They take away your children here after they empoverish you, this country is horrible
@EctoMorpheus portuguese natural here 👋 Portugal and Spain are AWESOME. Nature, safety, weather, food.
But unless you are very well off, I'd consider taking a serious look at the financial and social state of affairs.
Most strikingly, consider the quality of the health care system. In Portugal, plenty of hospital services are closed every week including emergencies, pediatric care, the birth/pregnant care teams, and more.
Nurses and doctors have been signing legal documents that release them from responsability if a patient dies from a preventable problem. They claim they do not have the minimum conditions to do their job.
This has been going on for two years at least. DESPITE high taxes and a left socialist government for years.
On the financial side, you need to take a look at your particular situation. But for most people, it is much worse than the Netherlands.
I'd suggest Spain before Portugal.
I'm considering moving to the Netherlands myself.
Goede video man! Ik ben een bestuurskunde student en heb eerder met 1ste kamerlid mei li de vos gesproken en zij had het ook iver dat er te veel partijen waren en dat 2de kmr leden gewoon te weinig tijd en ondersteuning krijgen bij hun taak, maar niemand durft natuurlijk om meer geld te vragen om dat te faciliteren.
"university students with the personality of a root vegetable" LMAO
Dang didn’t realise you were on Nebula or I would have watched there. A common problem I see with Nebula cross posters is they don’t mention it until way into the video or near the end. Could you perhaps have the Nebula icon or something at the beginning of your video so people have some sort of prompt to make the switch, even if you don’t want to do the promotion piece until later?
Overall really great video and always great to hear about more creators over on Nebula, my only problem as shown above is keeping track of you all and who is and isn’t on there. XD :)
It's literally within the first few seconds on the tram
College students that have the personality of a root vegetable voting Volt had me in freaking stitches. I'm sure everybody has different opinions on this video but to me this is the nail on the head on nearly everything.
The joke about Volt hurt a lot ngl
Lol, nice timing of yt that I just got this in my feed
it's so rare find new gems in TH-cam.
Amazing writing.
(0:10) I didn't know Curiosity Stream and Nebula were also in the rail business as well. LOL.
YT auto-captions trying to decipher Tweede Kamer
5:58, 9:18, 9:37 "Toyota Camry"
7:41 "Tomato Camera"
10:23 "Trade a Camera"
@@Kromiball I remember going into a Cannabis cafe called Tweede Kamer ages ago in Amsterdam. I understood it to loosely mean meeting room but dunno. Wasa nice place anyway and I would recommend you all meet there to conduct politics from now on
Prachtige productie weer!
Oh this aged well👏🏼 goed gedaan!
Gast dit filmpje heb je zo mooi gemaakt! Je accent is niet eens terug te traceren naar het feit dat je Nederlands bent. De graphics zijn ook echt 🔥🔥
Afgelopen jaar vind ik steeds meer video's op deze website waarin Nederland de hemel in word geprezen, vaak op het gebied van infrastructuur en landschapsinrichting. Ik maak mijzelf ook schuldig aan het kijken naar dit soort videos, vooral omdat er dingen geprezen worden die ik zelf als broodgewoon ziet. Meestal concludeer ik dat wij het hier supergoed hebben en de rest van de wereld gewoon klote is. Op hetzelfde moment merk ik dat de sfeer en de vertrouwen in de politiek in Nederland steeds minder word. Soms voelt het of Rutte enkel op de winkel wil passen. Ik merk bij mezelf dat ik steeds meer video's over Nederland skip omdat het vaak op hetzelfde neerkomt: fietspaden, walkable cities, goed ov, de hele NonJustBikes reutemateut. Laast vond ik een video van Rmtransit over hogesnelheidstreinen in de Benelux en het was om te kotsen. De HSL is al jaren de meest onbetrouwbare spoorlijn in Nederland waar 160 gereden word op een spoorlijn geschikt is voor 300, en een Canadees op een stoel probeert te overtuigen hoe dit nog beter is dan de Shinkansen en dat dit het toppunt is van het Nederlandse infrastructuurbeleid en het poldermodel. Alsof je porno aan het kijken bent waar je al 3 maanden niet geil meer van word. Hoe je Nederland uitlegde in de vorm van een priester, koopman en een ouwe zeikerd slaat de psychische spijker op de Nederlandse borrelplank. Nederland is een land waar veel geluld word maar op een wonderlijke wijze uiteindelijk toch noch word gepoest. Niet ieder land heeft dat gelukkig
dat over de HSL is nu onbetrouwbare door de traxx als de icng gaat rijden dan woord het beter
@@sneeuwkat9219 ICNG is een pareltje 👌
Laten we 300 gaan rijden in nederland, ben je vergeten hoe klein Nederland is?
@@r.a.h7682 De HSL had aangelegd moeten worden met een snelheid van 200/50 kmh. Veel geschikter voor Nederland
Ik ben dus zo'n oude zeikerd, erg rijp voor mijn leeftijd zullen we maar zeggen, maar dat is omdat ik denk in termen van vooruitgang. Er is geen reden waarom het land niet elk jaar of elke 4 jaar een stukje beter gemaakt zou worden. Maar het wordt slechter gemaakt, en dan komt weer iemand met een verhaaltje hoe goed we het hier hebben in verhouding tot een of andere shithole. Doet er niet toe, het was je taak het land te verbeteren en je hebt gefaald door het slecher te maken, punt.
I feel like we need more critique of European countries, trend "america bad" is really hurting because i'm able not being able to complain my country and restraining divine Polish right to complain about Polish state is animal cruelty.
Guess it's a "grass is greener next door" bias or a sort of exotic appeal where people don't know how bad it really is in a foreign country. Since there's a lot of americans online, they tend to focus on american problems more and less on other countries problems, which creates an exotic effect towards said countries. As a canadian, i wasn't aware of the issues facing dutch people on a daily basis like that.
Every country have their own shares of problems, my own included.
Really like your video. And I always wondered how German poltics would be without a percentage hurdle, because in Germany it is really frustrating to see that over 10% of the votes are not represented because the hurdle is to high, preventing new voices from being heard almost completly and gives the big parties a monopoly (or at least an unfaire advantige) on politics which gets worse when you consider that most Germans can't agree with any party currently in parlament.
In my opinion there should be a balance that allows small parties with new ideas to rise and prevents the fractioning of parlaments, so there should be a hurdle but that should not be to high.
you could have a ranked choice voting system, we even have this a tiny bit in the netherlands although not according to voter choice in the form of party afiliations
@Bastian I think it's good for Germany to be cautious with the small parties due to the legacy of the NSDAP that keeps returning. I think it's good how Germany can have real change by changing from CDU to SPD. That's not possible in the Netherlands. We always end up with centrist policies: Social democrats which are forced to make huge budget cuts, classic liberals forced to become cyclists, progressives which are forced to continue Clean Coal. Parties too far left-wing or right-wing refuse to cooperate and get disqualified from governing the country next time.
@@hendrikdependrik1891 I understand what you mean but what you described is no longer the truth, the SPD and CDU don't bring any change, both are corrupt as hell and have forgotten there own ideals. The social democrats are no longer social democrats but centrist with no agenda and the CDU's view of Christian democracy is to invest in coal and to financially support the car Industry that doesn't need help.
The barria for smal parties are now just there to keep them in power, which is sad because over 10% of the votes don't count because of that.
Also they now want to implement the same thing in the EU Parlament, to further empower themselfs in votes.
It doesn't even make sense there because of the grouping system in the Parlament
Oh man never thought about it like that. Guess i should be lucky, well more than germany then i guess. And its true, one of the biggest parties now had no seats last vote.
that VOLT roast was tough lol
Mooi gemaakt kerel. Ik weet niet waar je studeert maar je hebt een heldere kijk op dingen.
Great video hoog! I loved the dikes explanation. A theory on Egyptian and Mesopotamian early state formation has a very similar point to offer.
Great video random college student who lives in a basement!!!
Missed you guys
En daarom hebben we nu geertje beertje gestemd 💪
You've outdone yourself this time buddy, these visuals are on a whole different level to when you first started.
1 year later, and now we are another election further, you video kinda showed what was coming.
The field is changing dramatically indeed and I hope for the better.
11:30 man whats wrong with a nice cheese sandwich 😭😭
I am new to the Netherlands. And as a water engineer I found really interesting your insight on the connection of the beginings of water management and Dutch social and political development. I would love to have a coffee or beer one day and have some thoughtful conversations with you, maybe put it in your calendar for next year 😂. Please let me know how to connect. Cheers.
just go
"random college student in the basement" hey that's me!
Your unique animation style is so cool!
No one, nothing, and no where... will ever be perfect
Portugal when making coalitions is like: "do you agree with the 3rd paragraph of the constitution? if no, support PSD in a coalition; if yes, then support PS".
Be greatfull to the fact that you don't know who is going to be your prime minister before the election.
But in the end, my country is the oposite of the Netherlands. There is nothing serious to disagree uppon. I mean, 70% of parliament is basically 2 parties that are painfully the same (despite me voting for one of them), criticizing each other for doing what the other did, only saying diferent things.
That's something I admire in the netherlands, variety. Our parties are basically the same, the one that governs is the one that promisses to raise pensions the most next legislature. Just throw a number. You can see yourself as more orange or more pink, but in the end, we are all part of the portuguese hive-mind whose most decisions are shity
Same in romania
@@Duck-wc9de Then there’s the Chega party. A party that people vote for as a protest rather than principle. A party that is against so many things but not for anything. Not to mention a party of rhetoric. If I were there, I’d much rather vote for one of the two main parties, as opposed to a party that thrives on problems in society.
This is what will happen even in many other european countries in next elections. I am not literally happy because of that, but I understand it.
Today governments are totaly useless and incompetent, we have the worst economical crisis since 20s, you need 3 salaries to pay rent and electricity and politicians show you how many stuff they sent to Ukraine instead of talking about problems of their people + in west, there is the "muslim problem" but here in eastern wing of EU, we just have Ukrainians instead of muslims and it's pretty much the same. Everyone who lives near some lodging house for ukrainian or romanian workers will vote some nationalist party who promises get rid if these "migrants." That's how it works. It's fault of traditional political parties that they don't care about problems of ordinary people.
Poland went left recently
I've never felt more Dutch than watching this video, all
Amazing video. The only thing I'd wish for is that the things to read (statements, graphs, citations) would stay on a little longer to actually be able to read them (or the highlighted parts anyway) without having to pause the video. Vox always does this really well in terms of timing. :) But thanks for the great explanation, I'll definitely share this with my internacho-friends :)
8:33 That D66 or Volt roast is something I havent seen many people reference. That roast was sick.
With that venom towards Volt it seems like this creator has plenty of the old man inside him too:P
Wat een geweldige video! Je legt het heel goed uit en die paar grappen tussendoor maken het al helemaal een genot om naar te kijken. Ga zo door!
As alwasy a good video thank you.
And if i may i want to add something on you calling out the dutch parliament for being too small compared to the amount of people they should be representing.
I think that it is also a problem that people do not find themselfs to be heard whether they are in or outside of a party, and since the treshold is pretty low to enter (only 64.000 votes) you are always better off going into De tweede kamer (parliment) itself.
So having more people in the parliment would be good but i think we also need a way to represent small one time opinions on a more consistant basis so they will not go into parliment with just one or two goals.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.
Oh and respect to that First call
Is it bad if special parties come in de tweede kamer, just in one election cycle?
Simply because they had a specific mix of points, that mattered only in that election?
@@nielskorpel8860 Well yes, for i think that if you are going into De tweede kamer you are going to feel the pressure to deal with every problem the country has, not just the one you want to focus upon.
For example you have the small party called Bij1. This is a party that has been made by Silvana Simons with the intention to combat racism. But in the last tweede kamer election it seems visible to me that she has the pressure to deal with every issue that the Netherlands has and therefore cannot (in my opinion) put all her efforts into her main goal, fighting racism.
Another example is the BBB, they are a party that came up to defend the farmers in the Netherlands and just as Bij1 they are right to do so. But i am worried that they too will feel too much pressure to deal with everything and then fail to concentrate all their efforts to this single goal.
That is why i think that a single goal party needs a better way to express their opinion, i fear (a fear that has come true with some) that they loose time by not doing the things that would solve their problem.
@@basscheffener1564 but i think if they stand there and think by themselves, oh i fight for racism but now i can also give my opinion about other subjects. And i agree with you that the main goal is on the background then. But i think that party should just merge with a party that is a lot like the same as theirs. Bc you can make a party bigger, and also make more diversity. If you have a party that is for example central left, is for more equality and that kinda stuff then i think it would be benificial for a party as BIJ1 to join them, but i think and i don't think they are wrong, they wouldn't merge bc they want to do it themselves. I don't think only a bigger treshold with passing the votes through another party is the best way. If you can give a party your votes but still have some influence or like a section in that party. Like GL BIJ1 so GL is the main party but they also have a section BIJ1 where people can fight and debate for that one topic. And if one of those sections get so big or a lot of people of that section are getting in the House of Representives they should apply for being their own party but i think it should be 3 or 4 seats or something like that. I think if you keep having a lot of parties for single goals, it will be bad, bc everyone can then go into the house of representives and fight for one subject. I mean like then you get the Fishers party for the Fisherman , or like the building party for the builders etc. And all those parties wouldn't only talk about fish or about building it would be nice if you just had sections in parties that have like their own representives but still are under that party. But that also could have problems but i think if they only fight for their problems and only will participate in BIJ1 for example racism debates and BBB go to CDA or JA21 and do farmers debates. then they could focus more on that subject so i think the debates would be better and the laws. But thats just what i'm thinking
I feel like representing small one time opinions is what voter-initiated referendums are good at.
What an excellent video! I also really like the animation on this channel
Best video so far, explained very carefully with nice metaphors. I hope this video does well for you because it deserves it
Coming from an American, this is really informative. Everyone knows that our country is rife with problems and political instability, and we lag far behind our friends in Europe. But many Americans think this means that Europe is this utopia where everything is perfect and there’s no corruption or dysfunction, and that’s obviously not the case, even for a country as forward-thinking as the Netherlands. There’s many things we can and should learn from them, but pretending that Europe is perfect and that there’s nothing redeeming about our own country doesn’t help anything.
Here's a redeeming quality for you, there's no country like the USA to mobilize people to get something done that needs urgent fixing. Here in the Netherlands we only discuss and talk about it, up to a point where the problem either disappears - or is beyond fixing.
Yeah, the more I've traveled and talked to people from other countries, the more it's become apparent that part of the reason people move somewhere else and see it as an improvement is that they lack the cultural context to fully see all the issues that are present. We all grow up steeped in the issues faced by the places we're from, and so it's much easier for us to see those problems than it is for us to see the problems of a different place. This definitely isn't the full picture, and some places definitely do a better job of certain things than others. But I think this is part of why you often hear such different things from people who grew up somewhere and people who moved there
@@PuzzleQodec Given how we responded to COVID, which was on par with 3rd world countries, I think we've lost that. Our country is a total disaster and is getting worse every year.
America doesn't lag far behind Europe. It soars far ahead.
Europe has all these things that look good on paper, but fail to account for one thing... Culture. European culture is strict, collective based, and hostile to creativity and risk. Standing out and wanting to do something new is seen as silly.
Europe may have better healthcare, it may have generous welfare states, it may have stronger unions, but almost none of the changes that have completley changes peoples lives forever came from Europe - they came from America.
Some Europeans will claim there's no silicon valley in Europe because of "pratical reasons", but they fail to recognize why there's no silicon valley - that exact reasoning. It's not "practical" to have individuals and governments invest in such a risky industry with a lot of failure associated with it. It's not practical to give people writing stuff on a computer such high salaries to do it after just 3 years of college, and it isn't practical to continue to invest in it even after years of being in the red.
But you know what? It sure is fun to try, and it aint something others would do. That's what separates America from Europe, and it what makes America the greatest country ever that just simply continues to grow.
Great video, graphically amazing and content wise great. I only got one major disagreement, which is very few for such a complicated (and possible controversial topic/discussion). Keep up the great work
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".... but Belgium is Belgium"
Oof, right in our feels
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Stop big Bicycle from taking over !
Everyone knows that no matter who you vote or who wins nothing will change
The question is... In relation to the countries we, the viewers live in, the Netherlands are, in fact, perfect.
Everything is relative. To the slum citizen in Nigeria, Gambia looks like heaven. Tosomeone in Gambia, Morocco looks like heaven. In Morocco, Bosnia looks like heaven, and in Bosnia, the Netherlands looks like heaven.
Until each of those people actual live in those countries for a while and figure out that it isn't all gold.
@@sie11pervan Still so much better as to be rightfully called a "relative haven"
As a dutch person i am incredibly Lucky to live here but theres alot going on here right now and almost none of it is really good. It's going to a way and i suppose we'll have to see where it all goes
I've recently become enamored with the Dutch thanks to NotJustBikes. It's good to see the other side too. This was a really well made video.
My only rebuttal and question is I think political gridlock is becoming a global problem. The US Congress can't accomplish anything useful and we only have two parties. And there seems to be a housing crisis in every developed country.
I'd rather have a gridlocked system that is representative than a gridlocked system that forces me to choose between a "turd stroopwafel" and "giant douche".
Maybe The Netherlands isn't perfect but I still think you all have a lot to teach us.
Thanks again!
If you were given a choice between Bangladesh And Netherlands to live where would you?
@@andyc9902 Same question, would you rather live in North Korea or Bangladesh given these two options?
We won't exist in a decade thanks to mass migration
@@Post_Stall_ManeuverSame question, would you rather live in North Korea or the south pole, given these two options?
@@diogoantunes5473 Given that everyone who lives in the South Pole is a research scientist with presumably decent pay (or at least living expenses covered+pay), I'd say probably the South Pole.
Good video, I left the country 2 years ago. But I have trouble expressing what it is in the Netherlands that made me leave. This has given a little clarity.
Where are you npw?
here before this will blow up tnx to the PVV