Hi. It's great watching someone else struggle, from my comfy chair ;) I've been in similar situations with a truck and was very lucky to get rescued by a massive tractor. The ground anchor you're using is impressive and similar to a 'deadman' snow anchor used by winter mountaineers ( but a bit bigger ). Thanks for posting.
i've read a bit about the daf t244 and it looks like you still got the original tires on wich are known to be pretty bad in mud, as you probably learned for yourself ^^ you should think about upgrading to better and/or bigger tires ;)
You're right but I'm always going to encourage people to get travelling rather than spending it all before they've left. If you've got the money you can have whatever you want but I didnt! Of course the best tyres help but it was better to have £2-3000+ more in the bank for the recovery truck 😊 to collect a broken 25 year old truck. We all know that leaving with a "good enough" truck is hard enough, to leave with a "perfect truck" for me was impossible. The T244 only has a transfer box locker and not much power (quite a fragile transmission too) so in reality its never going to be great off road even with bigger tyres but it's cheap and fixable... Good luck with your adventures, crappy times for travelling.......
One big pasture out there, just driver error. I wouldn't have put chains on even if I'd had them as I didn't think I'd bog! To be honest I think I'd be stuck anyway 😝
The ground anchor isn't off-the-shelf sadly. The winch is a Superwinch Talon 18 (24v) and I would recommend it. If I had details or close-up pictures of the anchor to hand I would pass them on but lock-down gets in the way! Good luck with your plans. Ed
@@edwardcanney1499 iwe need an anchor like this for our world travels in the Daff ,did you make the ground anchor ?do you have any pics or some plans and dims ??
@@leylanddaff2372 I sold my truck this afternoon! I had planned to do a sketch of that design which was probs 15 years old but I forgot. Just go big, heavy and strong (solid steel). The design needs to put as much soil between the face of the anchor blade and your winch so you can draw that rough angle, the cranked portion gives you the depth thus increasing the amount of earth between it and the truck, the flat section simply lies on the surface. If you follow that principle you just need to taylor it to the terrain and being able to lift the thing! Remember to heavily gusset the cranked portion and have a loop on the back to extract it. you won't go wrong and make sure you test it or a basic prototype. It may not get you out of a true bogging but it keeps you moving through the boggy bits. So sorry that I can't just send you a drawing, I've failed you there....best of luck with your plans! One final thought assuming you haven't played with a truck sized anchor, don't be afraid of carrying 50 metres of extra strop or cable etc to get the anchor to the best possible ground well clear of the hazard. I think I had approx 70metres in total including winch wire.
Did you ever over heat your electric winch? I only ask as I've been think about a PTO one, as long as the engine runs, it will work all day. I suppose hydraulic'ing (is that a word?) while crossing deep water may be an issue.
I never have but as I rewind electric motors as part of my job I am aware of such issues and wouldn't take a motor to that point unless I had no other choice. The benefits are low weight and simplicity with electric, hydraulic is better/heavier/ takes up lots more space under the truck. My advice is to buy the best truck you can afford, if it has a hydraulic winch then great, otherwise fit a top quality electric one. Mine was a Superwinch Talon 18 and this will assist you with a standard bogging. If you are absolutely stuck then you need to put a bit of effort (digging!) in before an electric winch is used with these trucks especially when loaded. You now have the front/back or both issue to contemplate! :-)
@@edwardcanney1499 Was thinking of a scaled up 101 FC design. 1 large centrally mounted winch (probably forestry commission type where you had the choice of taking it out the front back sides etc.
I like the concept as long as you can access the underside of the truck when you need too but it may be waste of your time for the following reasons (consider all the strains on the loaded chassis too). I used to keep my anchor stowed amongst the chassis rails...not so great when the truck is stuck deeper.....oops. I also owned a Volvo C304 (6x6) which isn't far off a 101 and had I used it for overlanding it would've had 2 winches, front and back I reckon. I have never winched properly sideways but always had pulleys etc. I don't know your plans but if you're planning on going big and really pushing your offroading limits, the T244 might be a poor choice (no front/rear diff lock) as if you are not pulling straight your drive train helps you little with these trucks. Bitter experience taught me this. Try making a slight turn in soft ground and you will bog down in seconds, line up with the hazard and drive straight and you stand a chance. You will get stuck in moderately challenging stuff and sensible recovery methods are all that's required in my opinion, nothing fancy and when you get really stuck it's time for walk! Hope that helps a little, it's great that you are planning these things rather than wasting money on less important things which is a common trend nowdays!
Those Daf 4 tonners are sh*t. They were always getting stuck out in BATUS. they offered me one from the veh pool. I prefer a bedford 4 tonner. BTW, why are you self recovering into a worst patch of ground, you would have been better on the high ground.
Hi! I always found it easier going in straight lines with only a transfer box locker, if I'd tried manoevering I might have got myself into a bigger mess in the DAF. For me, when getting out of a bad spot I would aim straight up the exit to good ground rather than an angle so not be in a position where one side of the truck was on good ground only as you end up bogging down quickly. Yes the high ground was of course the right route but on those trips you make some good and some crap decisions. Many many times I saw a Prius bouncing over the high ground showing me how it's done! As a general rule we did find that tracks were often there for a reason and this was an example of rain changing things! Any laden 4x4 truck, on skinny tyres, without a full compliment of lockers (Bedford 4 tonner included) is a challenge but they are both cheap and reliable and a good starting point. Good luck with your travels, when we're all allowed!
Hi. It's great watching someone else struggle, from my comfy chair ;) I've been in similar situations with a truck and was very lucky to get rescued by a massive tractor. The ground anchor you're using is impressive and similar to a 'deadman' snow anchor used by winter mountaineers ( but a bit bigger ). Thanks for posting.
Proper winch on there a beautiful adventure with beautiful scenery 👍
Thanks, we gave it our best shot! I can't recommend Mongolia enough. All the best.
i've read a bit about the daf t244 and it looks like you still got the original tires on wich are known to be pretty bad in mud, as you probably learned for yourself ^^ you should think about upgrading to better and/or bigger tires ;)
You're right but I'm always going to encourage people to get travelling rather than spending it all before they've left. If you've got the money you can have whatever you want but I didnt! Of course the best tyres help but it was better to have £2-3000+ more in the bank for the recovery truck 😊 to collect a broken 25 year old truck. We all know that leaving with a "good enough" truck is hard enough, to leave with a "perfect truck" for me was impossible. The T244 only has a transfer box locker and not much power (quite a fragile transmission too) so in reality its never going to be great off road even with bigger tyres but it's cheap and fixable... Good luck with your adventures, crappy times for travelling.......
@@edwardcanney1499 buy a set of chains put them on when you go out on pastures like that problem solved
One big pasture out there, just driver error. I wouldn't have put chains on even if I'd had them as I didn't think I'd bog! To be honest I think I'd be stuck anyway 😝
@@edwardcanney1499 it's amazing what chains will do and there a hell of alot less then new tires and rims!!!!👍🇨🇦
Absolutely, you're spot on! Happy travels 😎
Welldone! 👍
Nice video and helpful too. A couple of questions: 1) what is the make of the ground anchor? and 2) what what winch is it? Thanks
The ground anchor isn't off-the-shelf sadly. The winch is a Superwinch Talon 18 (24v) and I would recommend it. If I had details or close-up pictures of the anchor to hand I would pass them on but lock-down gets in the way! Good luck with your plans. Ed
@@edwardcanney1499 many thanks for the reply - if I ever get a truck I might come back to you for those pictures :D :D
@@edwardcanney1499 iwe need an anchor like this for our world travels in the Daff ,did you make the ground anchor ?do you have any pics or some plans and dims ??
@@leylanddaff2372 I sold my truck this afternoon! I had planned to do a sketch of that design which was probs 15 years old but I forgot. Just go big, heavy and strong (solid steel). The design needs to put as much soil between the face of the anchor blade and your winch so you can draw that rough angle, the cranked portion gives you the depth thus increasing the amount of earth between it and the truck, the flat section simply lies on the surface. If you follow that principle you just need to taylor it to the terrain and being able to lift the thing! Remember to heavily gusset the cranked portion and have a loop on the back to extract it. you won't go wrong and make sure you test it or a basic prototype. It may not get you out of a true bogging but it keeps you moving through the boggy bits. So sorry that I can't just send you a drawing, I've failed you there....best of luck with your plans! One final thought assuming you haven't played with a truck sized anchor, don't be afraid of carrying 50 metres of extra strop or cable etc to get the anchor to the best possible ground well clear of the hazard. I think I had approx 70metres in total including winch wire.
Did you ever over heat your electric winch? I only ask as I've been think about a PTO one, as long as the engine runs, it will work all day. I suppose hydraulic'ing (is that a word?) while crossing deep water may be an issue.
I never have but as I rewind electric motors as part of my job I am aware of such issues and wouldn't take a motor to that point unless I had no other choice. The benefits are low weight and simplicity with electric, hydraulic is better/heavier/ takes up lots more space under the truck. My advice is to buy the best truck you can afford, if it has a hydraulic winch then great, otherwise fit a top quality electric one. Mine was a Superwinch Talon 18 and this will assist you with a standard bogging. If you are absolutely stuck then you need to put a bit of effort (digging!) in before an electric winch is used with these trucks especially when loaded. You now have the front/back or both issue to contemplate! :-)
@@edwardcanney1499 Was thinking of a scaled up 101 FC design. 1 large centrally mounted winch (probably forestry commission type where you had the choice of taking it out the front back sides etc.
I like the concept as long as you can access the underside of the truck when you need too but it may be waste of your time for the following reasons (consider all the strains on the loaded chassis too). I used to keep my anchor stowed amongst the chassis rails...not so great when the truck is stuck deeper.....oops. I also owned a Volvo C304 (6x6) which isn't far off a 101 and had I used it for overlanding it would've had 2 winches, front and back I reckon. I have never winched properly sideways but always had pulleys etc. I don't know your plans but if you're planning on going big and really pushing your offroading limits, the T244 might be a poor choice (no front/rear diff lock) as if you are not pulling straight your drive train helps you little with these trucks. Bitter experience taught me this. Try making a slight turn in soft ground and you will bog down in seconds, line up with the hazard and drive straight and you stand a chance. You will get stuck in moderately challenging stuff and sensible recovery methods are all that's required in my opinion, nothing fancy and when you get really stuck it's time for walk! Hope that helps a little, it's great that you are planning these things rather than wasting money on less important things which is a common trend nowdays!
You'd achieve better traction reducing the tyre pressures
Those Daf 4 tonners are sh*t. They were always getting stuck out in BATUS. they offered me one from the veh pool. I prefer a bedford 4 tonner. BTW, why are you self recovering into a worst patch of ground, you would have been better on the high ground.
Hi! I always found it easier going in straight lines with only a transfer box locker, if I'd tried manoevering I might have got myself into a bigger mess in the DAF. For me, when getting out of a bad spot I would aim straight up the exit to good ground rather than an angle so not be in a position where one side of the truck was on good ground only as you end up bogging down quickly. Yes the high ground was of course the right route but on those trips you make some good and some crap decisions. Many many times I saw a Prius bouncing over the high ground showing me how it's done! As a general rule we did find that tracks were often there for a reason and this was an example of rain changing things! Any laden 4x4 truck, on skinny tyres, without a full compliment of lockers (Bedford 4 tonner included) is a challenge but they are both cheap and reliable and a good starting point. Good luck with your travels, when we're all allowed!