*To all my tamil friends & Ignorant Malayalees : We’re(malayalam) not a mere dialect of Tamil. Our standard vocabulary is 80% Sanskrit and our grammar has been significantly impacted by Sanskrit (tripartite gender, ungendered conjugation, sandhi, cases, Sanskritic prefixes). We’re the only state in India that has a living Sanskrit theatre.*
where is chera nadu?what about pattanam excavations brother?history is history ...if u dont like malaylalam is from tamil,its okay..but i can easily understand malayalam even without learning....especially when village people talk as its less of sanskrit...even tamil has some sanskrit words now mixed but we have equivalent original words..by the way i am also part of chera nadu..(kongu region?
Some outsiders bragging about their language under a video about our history 😂. Guess these people are really insecure about their language. We don’t give a damn about your superioity theories. You guys can keep that to yourself insteading of crying under our videos. Respect every language. Don’t try to claim motherhood of every other language in the world. അമ്മ മലയാളം ❤️
@@Nithin90 tamil scripts not derived from pallava Tamil letters evolved but not meaning sounds of letters and grammar . Pallava created sanskrit letters for budhist monk because they have disability to speak tamil without prakrit letter sounds sha haa jaa .
MALAYALAM IS APPROVED AS A CLASSICAL LANGUAGE BY THE GOVT. OF INDAI For being conferred with a classical status, the Government of India stipulates certain conditions/criteria. The language has to be more than 1500 years old. Tamil, Kannada, Telugu and Malayalam have satisfied all these conditions. In terms of literary output, achievement and glory, Malayalam stands third among Indian languages. And, coming to modern literature, the most coveted and rich languages in India are Malayalam, Kannada and Bengali. On the basis of population it is found that Malayalam ranks fourth. As per the UNESCO’s language schedule, the position of Malayalam is 26th in terms of independent script and literature. Malayalam is the mother-tongue of over three and half crores of people. Among Keralites, 96.56 per cent have Malayalam as their mother-tongue. The break-up for Tamil, Telugu and Kannada are as follows: Tamil - 89 per cent; Telugu 85 per cent; and Kannada 63 per cent. The oldest records mentioning the word ‘Keralam’ is King Asoka’s edicts. Written between 300 and 270 BC, one of the edicts has the word ‘Kethalaputha’ referring to Kerala. In the first and second centuries of the Christian Era, Kerala finds mention in the works of Pleni, Ptolemy, Periplus as ‘Keralabathros’. ‘Kethalaputha’ to foreigners was ‘Keralabathros’. Even before ‘Kakara’ became ‘Chakara’, the word ‘Keralam’ existed. It was after ‘Kakara-chakara-vikaram’ that ‘cheram, cheraman, cheralathan’ came into existence. The meaning of ‘Kethalaputha’ and ‘Cheraman’ are one and the same. ‘Cheramaban’ is Cheraman and Kethalaputha is ‘Keralaputhran’. The ‘Pulimankombu Virakal’ inscription obtained from Theni in Tamilnadu, Edakkal Cave inscriptions, Pattanam inscriptions and Nedumkayam inscriptions of Nilambur prove that Malayalam has a history of more than 1500 years. The ‘Kesadipadham Stuthi’ in ‘Bhadrakali pattu’ and four ‘padams’ in ‘Yatrakali’ dates back to CE 6th century. Kerala can also claim a right to the Sanghom literature. Among the Sanghom poets, about forty- five of them are Keralites. ‘Chilapathikaram’, ‘Aikurunuruu’, Pathittupaathum’ are Kerala’s unique contribution. The Sanghom literature contains many ‘Malanadu’ words. The language used in Sanghom literature shows that Malayalam and Tamil has a common root. It is from this ancient root that Tamil and Malayalam branched out independently. While some of the rules in ‘Tholkapiyam’ are insignificant in modern-day Tamil, Malayalam retains them. This only further corroborates the evidence that Malayalam evolved from an ancient root. The Sanghom literature throws light on our past history and language. That is to say, Malayalam originated from a pre-Dravidian language. A fully written form was absent in the past. The literary works were initially introduced orally. It was much later that the written word was formed. The most famous work of the period “Chilapathikaram” contains reference to Chakyars and Chera kings. ‘Chilapathikaram tells the story about the Chera king Cheran Chenkutuvan. It describes an incident that took place in the Chera capital, Vanchi. In the introduction of the work it states that, the book was written in a place named “Kunavayil Kottam’. Non-brahmanical temples were referred to as ‘Kottams’ in different languages. Kunavayil Kottam is Trikanamathilakom. Subsequently it shortened to become Mathilakom, near today’s Kodungallur and relics have been obtained from here. But excavations have not been carried out hitherto. On the basis of investigations, it could be proved that Malayalam evolved from an Adi Dravidian language. No different is the case with the evolution of Tamil. There have not been any significant changes in Tamil either. The South Indian languages are distinct. Leaving aside Tamil, we find that the Malayalam language underwent many changes. With the coming of the brahmins, namboothiris and royal authorities and based on their scholarship Malayalam language transformed. Sanskrit, as discussed earlier, made intrusions into Malayalam to such an extent that it is difficult, today, to even trace the roots of Malayalam to Adi Dravidian language. However, it needs to be emphasized that on closer observation, it will be seen that the language being spoken and written in Kerala has its roots in Sanghom literature. Kutiyattam, a visual art form of Kerala, embraces all the tenets of Natyasatra. It has not been possible to ascertain the exact age to the compositions (‘Aattam’ and ‘Karmadeepika’) used in Kutiyattam. The works may be as old as Chilapathikaram because “Koothu” has been referred to in this work. Malayalam prose and poetry are rich with extraordinary creations. The first interpretations and translation of Kautilya’s Arthasastra was in Malayalam. So also, the first transliteration of Bhagavad Gita as per Sankara Bhashyam was in Malayalam. Paattu (songs), Manipravalam, Kilipaattu, Aattakatha and Thullal have enriched Malayalam literature. Songs and Manipravalam are mere namesake in Tamil and Telugu; they are very prominent in Malayalam. Different phases mark out Malayalam as a classical language. Up to CE 8th century Proto-Tamil belonged to Malayalam. As mentioned earlier, Sanghom works, Bhadrakali pattu, Pulimankombu, Edakkal, Pattanam, Nilambur inscriptions all-belong to this period. Between 800 and 1300 CE, ancient Malayalam enjoyed the status of a classical language. More than two hundred rock inscriptions, copper plates, Bhashakautilyam, Attaprakarangal, Kramadeepikakal, Ramacharitham, Champus, Manipravalam works and essays belong to this period. The period from 1300 to 1600 CE is described as the medieval period of Malayalam classical phase. Belonging to this period were the authors of Leelatilakam, Kannassa poets, Poonam Namboothiri, Cherussery, etc. The period from 1600 CE marks the modern period. With Ezhuthachan’s works, literature attained the form of a humane language status. Ezhuthachan’s literary style proved that Malayalam language could handle any literary form. These were the evidences the Government of Kerala submitted to the Union government in a report for obtaining the classical language status. An expert committee constituted in this regard recommended classical language status to Malayalam language on 19th December 2012. The Department of Culture of the Union Government accepting the recommendations forwarded it to the Prime Minister’s Office for necessary action. The Union Cabinet that met on 23rd May decided to accord classical language status to Malayalam. Receiving classical status means that under the Union Government a centre would start functioning looking into the literature and culture of Malayalam language. There would be steps to start Malayalam language departments in Central Universities. Awards would be instituted for the study of language and literature on par with international standards. The fund will be disbursed by the Union Government. The recognition received from the Union Government will definitely enhance and boost Malayalam language and literature manifold.
The grammatical principles of Malayalam language differs from the Tamil Grammars 'Tolkappiyam' and 'Nannul' of the 13th century due to the differences between the syntax, semantics and phonology of the colloquial language of the west and east of the Ghats since time immemorial. The terms Tamizh/Damida as found in Tamil and Malayalam literary work is the transliteration of the sanskrit word Dramila/Dravida meaning the southernmost region of Bharata (India). According to Tholkapiyam itself, The southernmost region of India or Tamizhagam is divided into 12 regions, in which 5 regions are in the west of the Ghats and 7 regions are in the east of the Ghats. The literary language of the Eastern side of the Ghats or Tamil nadu follows the syntactic rules of the colloquial language within the 7 regions known as Thenpandi nadu, Panri Nadu, Punal nadu, Kuda nadu, Aruva nadu, Sida nadu and Vadathalai nadu since antiquity. The literary works as found from tamil nadu and sri lanka known as "Sangam literature's" are in the literary dialect as fashioned in the east of the Ghats or Tamil Nadu. The literary language of the Western side of the Ghats or Keralam follows the syntactic rules of the colloquial language within the 5 regions known as Venadu, Kuttanadu, Karkanadu, Malanadu and Puzhinadu since antiquity. The oldest surviving cultural folk literature's including numerous thottams and hymns associated with Theyyam, Thira, Mudiyettu, Thiyyattu etc.are all in the literary dialect as fashioned in the west of the Ghats or Keralam. It is not correct to proclaim Malayalam language as originated or borrowed from the colloquial and literary language of Tamil nadu at any time in history but it is a false perception based on false history such as the Hindu, Jain and Buddhist mythology based events/kings of Kerala (sera) territory as found in Tamil literary works are falsely accredited as the actual history of the past 2000 years of Keralam. For example: Ilango Adikal was the brother of Senguttuvan and their father was Neduncheralathan, who is said to have conquered all of India until the Himalayas and his father Uthiyancheralatan is said to have fed the armies in the Mahabharata war. There existed no illango adikal, senguttuvan, nedumcherlaathan, uthiyancherlaathan etc ruling Keralam and speaking the language of local tamil literature's as found from tamil nadu and sri lanka known as "sangam literature's". It is an open fact that all the main Dravidian languages are influenced by Sanskrit since since time immemorial, Malayalam language is consisting of our traditional words and sanskrit words like all the main Dravidian languages since known literary history. All the Dravidian languages have common/similar words because Malayalam, Tulu, Tamil, Kannada, Telugu and all of our languages are emerging from a Proto-Language or an undocumented common language from an unknown time in history like all the language groups in the world.
Let me explain how they were deprived of their own history. Below are the things Malayalis are not taught or completely not aware of, even though these are are all very much part of their ancient past. 👍👍😊😊 They were made to believe that the mother of the Malayalam language was some prototype ancient language instead of Tamil - There are multiple claims that Malayalam evolved from a proto-dravidian language. But, no one realises that the proto-dravidian language itself was ancient Tamil. 😊😊 I see many claims from some of the Malayali friends that the old Tamil and the middle Tamil and the Modern Tamil are very different. Just for all of your info, Tamil is still following the same grammar which was defined during the first millennium BC. There is no diversion here. 😊😊 It is still the same language unchanged grammatically. There could be new words added during the modern era due to the modern usage. But, still the old word is used. 😊😊 The Sangam literature and the Pre-Sangam period grammar is still relevant and that is the core even today. So there is no question of old, middle or new. It’s just the continuation of the same language for the last three millenniums 😊😊 They are not aware about, into which language Sanskrit words were added desperately and that created Malayalam language - As per Kerala's recorded history, Malayalam was born From the Manipravalam form. At least everyone in Kerala agrees to this. 👍👍👍 Now, let’s see what is Manipravalam? Manipravalam മണിപ്രവാളം/ மணிப்ரவாளம் / மணிஇடைபவழம் நடை was a literary style used in medieval liturgical texts in ancient Thamizhagam. 👍👍 All must note here that Only when Tamil and Sanskrit is mixed, Manipravalam style of literature is born. not anything else. Mani-pravalam literally means ruby-coral, where Mani means ruby in Sanskrit while Pravalam means Coral in Tamil. Sanskrit is referred to as ruby and Tamil as coral. 😊😊 Now, you can do the simple math yourself and find out sanskrit got mixed with which language? So, it clearly suggests that Tamil was language which got mixed with Sanskrit, thus creating Malayalam. 👍👍 They are not at all aware what was the early native language’s grammar structure before Sanskritization - One must remember that any non-sanskrit words in Malayalam have their own grammar which has been followed in Tamil for centuries even before Sanskit was developed as an advanced language. 😊😊 For an example we have a word called “Noottaandugal”/ നൂറ്റാണ്ടുകൾ / நூற்றாண்டுகள் . When Nooru + aandugal joins together, the word Noottaandugal is derived. As per Tamil grammar there are three rules/formulas applied when adding the two words Nooru + aandugal and to convert into Noottaandugal as one single word. This was defined in Tamil well before Sanskit came to Kerala. 😊😊 So, is it possible to find the root words from Malayalam’s perspective for the Malayalam word “Iruunnalledathu”/ ഇരുന്നള്ളേടത്തു ? I am sure with Tamil grammar, we can still break this word in to the actual root words and we can say what rule can be applied and how this can be formed into one single word. Give it a try. 👍👍 Not aware of the glorious Sangam period literature (From 300 BC to 300 AD) and not taught about any of the kerala’s ancient Chera author’s literary works - Sangam literature talks about ancient Kerala (Chera Nadu) and recorded the life of ancient Chera people and their lives in many of its works. No one is aware of that. And it is surprising to see that some people claiming that Sangam literature never existed. 👍👍 This makes me laugh sometimes, because these are the people who cant believe the hundreds of ancient songs mentioning ancient kerala in detail and at the same time these are the people who tell others that Kerala was created by throwing an Axe. 😊😊😊 Not taught about the ancient Chera Tamil Landscapes - The entire Chera country (Today’s Kerala) was classified into “Thinnai”s according to the Sangam period Tamil landscapes (Kurinji, Mullai, Marudham, Neidhal, Palai). Even today, we can see that In Kerala, many places named after the ancient Tamil Landscapes. 😊😊😊 I don't think anyone has any idea about this either. Not aware why the ancient temples and ancient villages, Towns, Cities are starting with the Tamil honorific prefix “Thiru” and also Not aware why the names of ancient villages, Towns, Cities ending with “Oor” or “Peroor”- Just for an example, Thrissur - Thrissur's Old name was “Thiru Siva Peroor”. (Peroor means Periya + oor in Tamil). 👍👍 No one uses Periya in Malayalalam. Instead they use Valliya. If Periya is not a word in Malayalam, then how did Thrissur, the cultural city of Kerala got the Tamil name Periya Oor? Also, Thiru is used extensively in almost all ancient places with ancient Temples. 😊😊😊 So, this means that Kerala’s ancient past was Tamil and all the places in Kerala before tenth century were named as per Tamil prefixes and suffixes. 😊😊 Not aware of the ancient Tamil-Brahmi scripts even though many ancient artefacts found from Kerala were written in Tamil-Brahmi - I see that many from Kerala claim that the Brahmi letters came from north to South and also, they do not accept the fact that the ancient Brahmi letters found in Kerala were Tamil. 👍👍👍 I would like to pinpoint something here. From the Adichanallur archeology sites, archeologists unearthed many pots with Tamil-Brahmi letters in it. They belong to 500 BC which is roughly 200 years before Ashoka’s edicts. So, and the first one to introduce the Brahmi letters in India were Tamils. 😊😊 Please see, Newly discovered Brahmi inscription decipheredNot aware of Kerala's ancient Buddhism and Jainism past - The entire Kerala was a Buddhist country 2000 years back and the Jains and the buddhists lived side by side. 😊😊 As per the current corrupt historians of Kerala, the History of Kerala starts only after 10th century, hence, there is no way that Malayalis will come to know about their Buddhist past and their Jain past. 😊😊 (for all the people who deny their actual history, please check who was Karumadi Kuttan in kerala’s history and how did he ended up in the nearby stream and who damaged him and threw him there thousand years back. 👍👍👍 Check the following links for your reference.Karumadikkuttan - Wikipedia , Jainism in Kerala - Wikipedia , Neelamperoor Palli Bhagavathi Temple - Wikipedia . There are so many proofs in kerala. Anyone can do their own simple research to find out more.Not aware of ancient Epics originated in Kerala 2000 years back- There were so many sangam period songs written in Tamil which talks about Kerala’s ancient past. None of that is taught to the Malayali younger generations. 👍👍👍 Also, no historians is interested in looking at it as they firmly believes that the Kerala’s history starts only after 10th century AD. 😊😊 Not knowing who Kannagi was. Even though Kodungallur temple and Attukal temples are dedicated to Kannagi and not aware why Chilambu is so sacred in Kerala tradition - Kannagi is a Tamil women who lived 2000 years back and she is the central character of the Tamil epic Chilapathikaram / Silapathikaram which was written in Kerala by a Cheran author Illango adigal. 😊😊😊 She has been considered as a god in the Tamil country for the past 2000 years. As kerala was a Tamil buddhist country at that time, she was elevated to a goddess status in buddhism and kerala buddhist people started worshipping her. This has spread into the nearby buddhist country Srilanka and Srilankan buddhists also started worshiping Kannagi as Pattini Devi. 👍👍The Sirlankan Tamils worship her as Kannagi Amman. The Tamils from Tamilnadu has many temples for Kannagi and she is worshipped even today as Amman. (The Amman with chilambu in hand). 😊😊 Malayalis worship her as Kodungallur Bagavathy and Aattukal Devi. Also, kannagi’s Chilambu is so sacred in many temples in kerala. 😊😊😊 The Velichappadu concept and the Bharani celebrations are all for Kannagi only. But, unfortunately the Kerala historians had other plans and Kannagi is not known in kerala history after 10th century AD. Her name has been changed post that. 😊😊 All the above points are not to criticise the Malayali community as a whole for not knowing their history. It is just to create an awareness and to point out that how ill informed they are about their own history. 😊😊😊 I see my Malayali brothers as the Jack Nicholson’s of India who were cheated by their own kings and Rulers and historians for more than 8 centuries now. 😊😊 So, to answer this question once again, Not knowing their Tamil origin is not their mistake. 😊😊 Blacking out Kerala’s history was a well planned conspiracy plotted by the migrants who came to Kerala and started ruling the country independently from the end of 12th century onwards.
@@sabarieesan4006 Artefacts found at the site in Keezhadi, about 12 km from Madurai, push back the date of Tamil-Brahmi script to another century i.e. 6th century BCE. These results clearly ascertained that they attained literacy or learned the art of writing as early as 6th century BCE.
Read Carefully, Old Tamil is a mother of Malayalam and modern Tamil its sister. But, as they have the same name, people often credit the motherhood of Malayalam to modern Tamil. Malayalis and Tamilian’s both assume that the heritage of old Tamil belong to modern Tamilian’s. However, this heritage belongs as much to Malayalais as to Tamilians. I share my name with my father and grandfather - Divakaran. Will my brother accept if I say that I alone should inherit my father’s property? Would any of you believe if I say I am over 100 years old? Certainly no. I feel the same is true about languages. There are some who believe that there is no difference between old Tamil and modern Tamil. I feel that is utter nonsense. I feel that, being mutually intelligible is a necessary condition for being the same language. Very few Tamilians would understand old Tamil. Those who understand, are able to do that by training. If Malayali’s are given similar training, they would be able to pick it up with the same ease. It might even turn out easier for Malayalis as many old words in Tamil are still used in Malayalam. Also, note that, most Malayalis understand Tamil, but most Tamilians do not understand Malayalam. The aim of this post is not to deprive Tamil of its classical status or Tamilians of their heritage. It is only to bring better understanding about our family of languages, their shared past and our common heritage, making it easier for us to love and appreciate the members of this family even more. Note: This article originally appeared in Malayalam on the author’s blog ‘Manorajyam’, under the title ‘Namaspardha‘
#WinT so what we Tamils can't understand old Tamil ?.....Lol the Tamil we speak is entirely different from the Tamil we write......old Tamil is developed and formed into modern Tamil.....olden Tamil +evolution+Sanskrit= Malayalam.... vatteluttu was oldest form of Tamil writings..so here is the proof....en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatteluttu_alphabet.....we Tamils know old Tamil as well as modern tamil
You morons old Tamil and modern Tamil were not different it was same ....modern Tamil was developed from old Tamil ....🤣🤣😂😂😂the author manorajyam sayings was the funniest thing I've ever heard....if u don't know Tamil history don't talk....
@@surajsuresh7210 Malayalies have language knowledge than any other people in the world ..but it cant be expexted accoding to ur LTTE propoganda u idiot..Malayalam abd Tamil are sister languages..Dravidian culture and Sangam literature belongs to not only tamil but malayalies..Without chera nadu and Ilango adigal..Dravidian culture is nothing
@@minimaxmini7675 Most of the Malayali population do not know or do not believe their Tamil origin. The major reason is that they are not taught the correct history in school. History of Kerala and history of Malayalam Language is falsified with plenty of wrong informations. According to the historians from Kerala and as per their records, the history of Kerala starts from around 9th - 10th century AD. The history of Malayalam language starts from around 13th - 14th century AD. Anything before that period is a mystery to the Malayali population. No one knows who lived in Kerala before 10th century and what language they spoke. It is so surprising to see that one of the highly literate state is doing so poor when it comes to their own history. The funniest part is that, some people still argue that Malayalam is a sister language to Tamil and both came from a common ancestor not realising which language was the mother of Malayalam. Also, no one knows the history of Chera people who were the actual ancestors of entire Kerala population (excluding the migrants).
ഇവിടെ കുറെ തമിഴന്മാർ തമിഴ് ആണ് മലയാളത്തിന്റെ mother എന്നൊക്കെ പറഞ്ഞു നടക്കുന്നുണ്ട്. തമിഴും മലയാളവും ഉത്ഭവിച്ചത് ഒരേ ഭാഷയിൽ നിന്നാണ്. പഴയ ദ്രാവിഡ ഭാഷ. മലയാളം പിന്നീട് സംസ്കൃതം കൂടുതലായി ഉപയോഗിച്ചു ഇന്ന് കാണുന്ന രീതിയിൽ ആയി. അതുപോലെ ഇപ്പോഴത്തെ തമിഴും പഴയ ദ്രാവിഡ ഭാഷയിൽ മാറ്റം വന്നാണ് ഉണ്ടായത്. അതായത് തമിഴ് എങ്ങനെ ഉണ്ടായോ, അതുപോലെ, അതേസമയം മലയാളവും ഉണ്ടായി. പക്ഷെ ഇവന്മാർ തമിഴ് ദേശീയത കേട്ട് പഠിച്ചു പഴയ ദ്രാവിഡ ഭാഷയെ വരെ തമിഴ് എന്നാണു വിളിക്കുന്നത്. അതാണ് മലയാളം തമിഴിൽ നിന്നാണ് ഉണ്ടായത് എന്ന് ഇവന്മാര് പറയുന്നത്. അത് തെറ്റാണ്. ഇവന്മാർ ഉദ്ദേശിക്കുന്നത് ഇപ്പോഴത്തെ തമിഴിൽ നിന്നാണ് മലയാളം ഉണ്ടായത് എന്നാണ്. തമിഴന്മാർ പലരും അങ്ങനെ ആണ് വിശ്വസിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നത്. ഒരു ഉദാഹരണം പറഞ്ഞുതരാം. ഹിന്ദി ഉണ്ടായത് സംസ്കൃതത്തിൽ നിന്നാണ്. മറാത്തി, ബംഗാളി എല്ലാം സംസ്കൃതത്തിൽ നിന്നാണ് ഉണ്ടായത്. പക്ഷെ ഇന്ന് സംസ്കൃതം ഹിന്ദിക്കാർക്കു വരെ മനസ്സിലാകില്ല. സംസ്കൃതത്തെ വേറെ ഭാഷ ആയിട്ടാണ് കാണുന്നത്. ഒരു ദിവസം ഹിന്ദിക്കാർ സംസ്കൃതത്തെ പഴയ ഹിന്ദി എന്ന് വിളിക്കാൻ തുടങ്ങിയിട്ട് മറാഠിയും ബംഗാളിയും ഒക്കെ ഉണ്ടായത് ഹിന്ദിയിൽ നിന്നും ആണെന്നും ഹിന്ദി ആണ് ഇവരുടെ എല്ലാം mother എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞാൽ എങ്ങനെ ഇരിക്കും? അതാണ് ഈ തമിഴന്മാർ ചെയ്യുന്നത്.
മലയാളത്തിലെ ആദ്യ കൃതി രാമചരിതം അല്ലേ, ചിലപ്പതികാരം അല്ലല്ലോ. കൂടാതെ ദേശങ്ങൾ അന്ന് ബന്ധപെട്ടു കിടക്കുന്നതും കൂടെ ചേർത്തു വായിക്കണം. ആദി ദ്രാവിഡ ഭാഷയിലെ മക്കളായി തമിഴിലെയും മലയാളത്തെയും കാണണം. അതിൽ രൂപം ആദ്യം കൊണ്ടത് തമിഴ് ആണ്. പക്ഷേ മൂത്ത സഹോദനായിട്ടെ തമിഴിനെ കാണാൻ കഴിയു..
YTA Malayalam had tamil script till the 15th century. Kerala was occupied by chera tamil people before the namboodiri's came with their sanskrit. Original malayalam is chera tamil language.
Malayalam and timil different, all are originated from same family. Malayalam exactily the same scripture strucure as tamiz, is focus to Dravida family.
@@vishnukpillai6446 Malayalam had tamil script till the 15th century. Kerala was occupied by chera tamil people before the namboodiri's came with their sanskrit. Original malayalam is chera tamil language.
മലയാളവും തെലുങ്കും തുളുവും തമിളും കന്നഡവുമെല്ലാം proto draveedian ancestor language ൽ നിന്ന് ഉത്ഭവിച്ചിട്ടുള്ള ഭാഷകളാണ്. അതുകൊണ്ടാണ് ഇവയ്ക്ക് classical ലാംഗ്വേജ് പദവി നൽകിയിരിക്കുന്നത്.ഭാഷ എന്നത് ആശയം സംവദിക്കാനുള്ള ഒരു ഉപാധി മാത്രമാണ്.
മലയാളത്തെ കുറിച്ച് ഇത്രയും നല്ല വിവരണം കേട്ട് നിറഞ്ഞിട്ട് ..., ഇവിടെ ഇട്ടിരിക്കുന്ന കമന്റ്റുകൾ എല്ലാം തന്നെ ഇംഗ്ലീഷിൽ ആണല്ലോ(മലയാളത്തിൽ അല്ലേ അല്ല ) ഇതിൽ നിന്നും മനസ്സിലാക്കേണ്ടത് എന്താണ്..? ഒരു പാവം സാദാരണക്കാരിയുടെ എളിമയോടെയുള്ള സംശയവും ചോദ്യവുമാണെ...
namboodiris are aryans. Sanskrit is theirs. Sanskrit corrupted malayalam. The current malayalam is CORRUPTED & not the same as it was 5 centuries ago. RESTORE THE ORIGINAL MALAYALAM.
@Akmal Hk Prakrit (baagatham in tamil) means "original" & refers to the vast tamil language spoken in various regions with various accents, various set of words & various grammatical structures but later evolved into different languages due to mixing with foreign languages.
@@savedchristian4754 we dont fucking use sankritam here brother...... u r reserched wrong, pure malayalam only even tamils cant understand it that is what our pure language, but we can understand ur language so fast becos we were the old one before new colloquial tamil, annaa thinkk pannne annaa😃
@@jaferwaseem4047 You fucking don't use sanskrit? But malayalees say sanskrit is father of malayalam. The oldest writing in the indian subcontinent is tholkaappiyam which is in thamizh not malayalam. You are not taught tholkaappiyam literature in kerala. That's how you rejected thamizh. Jesus took punishment for humans sins upon Himself on the cross but other fake gods send people to do punniya from town to town.
@@minimaxmini7675 hey moron! First understand we were spoken same language until the situation of fucking nambhoothiris. We are kith and kin genetically, linguistically, ethnically. What you call as traditional differences between Tamil and kelalite, they were intentionally created by the dog fucking nambhoothiris for them to grab the control over the poLitics and land of the sera nadu. Even later seraman king kulasekaran and his son had written devotioNal tamil poems. First understand history. We, dravidians are all same ethinic group. We should stand solidly against Aryan brahmins' cultural intrusion.
@@Nithin90 dai mutta sunni, in all over indian subcontinent, bakthi movement started in then combined Tamilnadu and kerala very first 6th century on words.. do not create myth like it had started 4000 years ago. 4000 years ago, Aryans didn't have intruded into the subcontinent. Seramaan kulasekaran belongs to 8th century, he visited many saiva, vainava temples, did many maintenance works to these temples. If you want proof, then read sounth indian epigraphy book, which gives ample of copper plate inscriptions, rock inscriptions. Saiva, vainva religions were not hindu religion until william johnes coined the word in 1799. Only before 150 years , because of the deceitive brahmins like you, all Nadan deivangal, saivam,vainavam, bhuddham, Jainism all grouped together as hindu religion. So before you attempt to change the history, there will be always hinderences come from Tamilnadu . Because it is Periyar mann. That's why even after RSS - BJP - BRahmin - Baniya decoits sized considerable place in kerala, that's still remain impossible in TamilNadu. Even your power ful man Modi had to fly only in sky not in road.
@@krushgo1934 you dont know any stuff about Namboothiries or Nairs or even about the social structure of kerala..You are only an emotional explosive pseudo bomb..Only You intense emotions are flowing...u are not looking whether it is right or wrong...what ever absurd you hear from any where and get emotional and vomit here..You are here only to show your state is some what above others and by saying so taking pride in it...But let me tell you We dont have Maire Regarding it.Caste system is more dangerous inTamil Nadu than kerala.Kerala have a tradition of eradicating Social evils like caste system but in tamil nadu still u will get killed if u marry ftom another caste..i remember that incident happened in tiruppur where The boy is killed by casteist parent of the girl!5Have you forgot Meenachipuram conversion...renaming it into Rahmatpuram because of the Enlightment ypu say an entire village of dalits converted to Islam because of the persecution by Upper caste .Dai chinna payya..Unarchiyile ni olararuthu enakku nalla puriyum ana vayikku vanda padi pesadada chella..poyi Konchom varalaru padi poyi Odu Malare k vazhi
@@F0NZZI Artefacts found at the site in Keezhadi, about 12 km from Madurai, push back the date of Tamil-Brahmi script to another century i.e. 6th century BCE. These results clearly ascertained that they attained literacy or learned the art of writing as early as 6th century BCE.
@@F0NZZI As a proto-language, Proto-Dravidian is not itself attested in historical records. Its modern conception is based solely on reconstruction. It is suggested that the language was spoken in the 4th millennium BCE, and started disintegrating into various branches around 3rd millennium BCE. proto Dravidian is a myth
In 1st century there was no language called Malayalam...there was only old Tamil ...after the influence of Sanskrit and evolution Malayalam was formed ....Tamil dates in 1st century and the proof for that is called tholkappiyam an grammar literature...
Nithin90 we have evidence that tholkappiyam have been dated before 1st century... because of its writing method which is known as thamizhi writings....if u don't know Tamil history don't argue
Nithin90 there's no evidence ....lol 😂....en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tolk%C4%81ppiyam.. I asking to u do u know about thamizhi words , if u don't know about tat go Nd Google it ... I repeatedly saying that if u don't know about Tamil history don't argue bro
Even that Wikipedia page itself states very clearly that the dating of Tholkappiyam is imprecise and uncertain. It is you who need to read what you Google rather than post it here as if it supports your clams. lol
Nithin90 so that u are saying that tholkappiyam is dated in 11th century....moron tholkappiyam is nothing but it is a Tamil grammar literature which explains that how to form Tamil word and how to write...how come it will be dated in 11th century
Nithin90 thamizhi words are different from old Tamil middle Tamil and modern Tamil.... Tamil words which is used in tholkappiyam were the example that it is dated in 1st century
Once upon a time this land belongs to tamils when sanskrit entered into india Tamil language split into telugu malayalam kannada tulu languages actually we are real indians, hail dravidanadu support from telangana state
*Unfortunetly, Because* *invasion of sanskrit old* *Tamil people in Seralam/* *Keralam currently becomed* *malayalees* *just before 500 years* *from now*
@Abhishek NS tamil is always same through out it's lifetime. It had adaptation. You can't say it proto tamil. That's the secret if it's survival for a long period.
Proto dravidian was the base root out of which tamil telugu kannada malayalam tulu etc came. Tamil supremacy theorists(almost 99% of tamilians) dominated with their faux theories and many gullible malayalees let them. But recently people have proved and malayalam has been conferred classical language status. The oldest inscription in vazhapalli kerala is in malayalam and not in tamil. Humans evolved from chimpanzees in Africa and maybe you can claim that they spoke tamil. But still that language evolved from somewhere and it varied across different regions.
@@VinitNayar You cant say that was a false claim. Tamil has literature treasure. But, constantly forbidden in history books of India. Now we are celebrating it. PM declares tamil is oldest in 2019. We don't impose tamil and not false claiming. We are celebrating. It was a nature there from sangam period. Tamil is always more than a language for us. We don't like to call it tamil, not proto dravidian. We phrase tamil as goddess here. No domination. Just breaking our inferiority mindset with pride.
Let me explain how they were deprived of their own history. Below are the things Malayalis are not taught or completely not aware of, even though these are are all very much part of their ancient past. 👍👍😊😊 They were made to believe that the mother of the Malayalam language was some prototype ancient language instead of Tamil - There are multiple claims that Malayalam evolved from a proto-dravidian language. But, no one realises that the proto-dravidian language itself was ancient Tamil. 😊😊 I see many claims from some of the Malayali friends that the old Tamil and the middle Tamil and the Modern Tamil are very different. Just for all of your info, Tamil is still following the same grammar which was defined during the first millennium BC. There is no diversion here. 😊😊 It is still the same language unchanged grammatically. There could be new words added during the modern era due to the modern usage. But, still the old word is used. 😊😊 The Sangam literature and the Pre-Sangam period grammar is still relevant and that is the core even today. So there is no question of old, middle or new. It’s just the continuation of the same language for the last three millenniums 😊😊 They are not aware about, into which language Sanskrit words were added desperately and that created Malayalam language - As per Kerala's recorded history, Malayalam was born From the Manipravalam form. At least everyone in Kerala agrees to this. 👍👍👍 Now, let’s see what is Manipravalam? Manipravalam മണിപ്രവാളം/ மணிப்ரவாளம் / மணிஇடைபவழம் நடை was a literary style used in medieval liturgical texts in ancient Thamizhagam. 👍👍 All must note here that Only when Tamil and Sanskrit is mixed, Manipravalam style of literature is born. not anything else. Mani-pravalam literally means ruby-coral, where Mani means ruby in Sanskrit while Pravalam means Coral in Tamil. Sanskrit is referred to as ruby and Tamil as coral. 😊😊 Now, you can do the simple math yourself and find out sanskrit got mixed with which language? So, it clearly suggests that Tamil was language which got mixed with Sanskrit, thus creating Malayalam. 👍👍 They are not at all aware what was the early native language’s grammar structure before Sanskritization - One must remember that any non-sanskrit words in Malayalam have their own grammar which has been followed in Tamil for centuries even before Sanskit was developed as an advanced language. 😊😊 For an example we have a word called “Noottaandugal”/ നൂറ്റാണ്ടുകൾ / நூற்றாண்டுகள் . When Nooru + aandugal joins together, the word Noottaandugal is derived. As per Tamil grammar there are three rules/formulas applied when adding the two words Nooru + aandugal and to convert into Noottaandugal as one single word. This was defined in Tamil well before Sanskit came to Kerala. 😊😊 So, is it possible to find the root words from Malayalam’s perspective for the Malayalam word “Iruunnalledathu”/ ഇരുന്നള്ളേടത്തു ? I am sure with Tamil grammar, we can still break this word in to the actual root words and we can say what rule can be applied and how this can be formed into one single word. Give it a try. 👍👍 Not aware of the glorious Sangam period literature (From 300 BC to 300 AD) and not taught about any of the kerala’s ancient Chera author’s literary works - Sangam literature talks about ancient Kerala (Chera Nadu) and recorded the life of ancient Chera people and their lives in many of its works. No one is aware of that. And it is surprising to see that some people claiming that Sangam literature never existed. 👍👍 This makes me laugh sometimes, because these are the people who cant believe the hundreds of ancient songs mentioning ancient kerala in detail and at the same time these are the people who tell others that Kerala was created by throwing an Axe. 😊😊😊 Not taught about the ancient Chera Tamil Landscapes - The entire Chera country (Today’s Kerala) was classified into “Thinnai”s according to the Sangam period Tamil landscapes (Kurinji, Mullai, Marudham, Neidhal, Palai). Even today, we can see that In Kerala, many places named after the ancient Tamil Landscapes. 😊😊😊 I don't think anyone has any idea about this either. Not aware why the ancient temples and ancient villages, Towns, Cities are starting with the Tamil honorific prefix “Thiru” and also Not aware why the names of ancient villages, Towns, Cities ending with “Oor” or “Peroor”- Just for an example, Thrissur - Thrissur's Old name was “Thiru Siva Peroor”. (Peroor means Periya + oor in Tamil). 👍👍 No one uses Periya in Malayalalam. Instead they use Valliya. If Periya is not a word in Malayalam, then how did Thrissur, the cultural city of Kerala got the Tamil name Periya Oor? Also, Thiru is used extensively in almost all ancient places with ancient Temples. 😊😊😊 So, this means that Kerala’s ancient past was Tamil and all the places in Kerala before tenth century were named as per Tamil prefixes and suffixes. 😊😊 Not aware of the ancient Tamil-Brahmi scripts even though many ancient artefacts found from Kerala were written in Tamil-Brahmi - I see that many from Kerala claim that the Brahmi letters came from north to South and also, they do not accept the fact that the ancient Brahmi letters found in Kerala were Tamil. 👍👍👍 I would like to pinpoint something here. From the Adichanallur archeology sites, archeologists unearthed many pots with Tamil-Brahmi letters in it. They belong to 500 BC which is roughly 200 years before Ashoka’s edicts. So, and the first one to introduce the Brahmi letters in India were Tamils. 😊😊 Please see, Newly discovered Brahmi inscription decipheredNot aware of Kerala's ancient Buddhism and Jainism past - The entire Kerala was a Buddhist country 2000 years back and the Jains and the buddhists lived side by side. 😊😊 As per the current corrupt historians of Kerala, the History of Kerala starts only after 10th century, hence, there is no way that Malayalis will come to know about their Buddhist past and their Jain past. 😊😊 (for all the people who deny their actual history, please check who was Karumadi Kuttan in kerala’s history and how did he ended up in the nearby stream and who damaged him and threw him there thousand years back. 👍👍👍 Check the following links for your reference.Karumadikkuttan - Wikipedia , Jainism in Kerala - Wikipedia , Neelamperoor Palli Bhagavathi Temple - Wikipedia . There are so many proofs in kerala. Anyone can do their own simple research to find out more.Not aware of ancient Epics originated in Kerala 2000 years back- There were so many sangam period songs written in Tamil which talks about Kerala’s ancient past. None of that is taught to the Malayali younger generations. 👍👍👍 Also, no historians is interested in looking at it as they firmly believes that the Kerala’s history starts only after 10th century AD. 😊😊 Not knowing who Kannagi was. Even though Kodungallur temple and Attukal temples are dedicated to Kannagi and not aware why Chilambu is so sacred in Kerala tradition - Kannagi is a Tamil women who lived 2000 years back and she is the central character of the Tamil epic Chilapathikaram / Silapathikaram which was written in Kerala by a Cheran author Illango adigal. 😊😊😊 She has been considered as a god in the Tamil country for the past 2000 years. As kerala was a Tamil buddhist country at that time, she was elevated to a goddess status in buddhism and kerala buddhist people started worshipping her. This has spread into the nearby buddhist country Srilanka and Srilankan buddhists also started worshiping Kannagi as Pattini Devi. 👍👍The Sirlankan Tamils worship her as Kannagi Amman. The Tamils from Tamilnadu has many temples for Kannagi and she is worshipped even today as Amman. (The Amman with chilambu in hand). 😊😊 Malayalis worship her as Kodungallur Bagavathy and Aattukal Devi. Also, kannagi’s Chilambu is so sacred in many temples in kerala. 😊😊😊 The Velichappadu concept and the Bharani celebrations are all for Kannagi only. But, unfortunately the Kerala historians had other plans and Kannagi is not known in kerala history after 10th century AD. Her name has been changed post that. 😊😊 All the above points are not to criticise the Malayali community as a whole for not knowing their history. It is just to create an awareness and to point out that how ill informed they are about their own history. 😊😊😊 I see my Malayali brothers as the Jack Nicholson’s of India who were cheated by their own kings and Rulers and historians for more than 8 centuries now. 😊😊 So, to answer this question once again, Not knowing their Tamil origin is not their mistake. 😊😊 Blacking out Kerala’s history was a well planned conspiracy plotted by the migrants who came to Kerala and started ruling the country independently from the end of 12th century onwards.
@@ayanjoemusic The characters of 'Kannagi and Kovalan' in the Jain prequel 'Silapathikaram' and the Buddhist sequel 'Manimegalai' of Tamil Nadu are derived from the native 'Kanyavu and Balakan' of the Old Malayalam ballad of Kerala known as 'Thottam Paattu' in which 'Kanyavu' killed the Pandian king and burned down Madurai and Lord Shiva established her abode at Thiruvanchikulam (i.e Kodungallur) in the Kerala tradition. The Jain prequel 'Silapathikaram' and the Buddhist sequel 'Manimegalai' of Tamil Nadu are abounded in the references to Brahmanas, Vedic Yajnas and even the art forms of Kerala but the story and the characters of Ilango adikal, Kannagi, Kovalan, Senguttuvan, Nedumchezhiyan etc are neither historical figures nor historical documents but fictional characters of their traditional creative poetry or mythology of Tamil Nadu such as Pattupattu, Ettutokai etc and NOT part of Kerala Tradition. : For Example: ‘Ilango Adikal’ was the brother of ‘Senguttuvan’ and their father was ‘Nedumseralathan’, who is said to have conquered all of India until the Himalayas (i.e Imayamalai) and his father ‘Uthiyanseralathan’ is said to have fed the armies in the Mahabharata war from Kuttanadu in Kerala (i.e Sera-Nadu) Ex. Paripadal but there existed no 'illango adikal, senguttuvan, nedumseralaathan, uthiyanseralaathan etc' in Kerala history or Indian history during the period of Ptolemy, Pliny or Ashoka's time when the sovereign of Kerala was titled as 'Keralaputhra' in Sanskrit. : The 1st century and 2nd century European travelers referred to the geographical region of South India as ‘Dakinabades’ after the Sanskrit word ‘Dakshinapatha’ whereas they referred to Kerala as ‘Damirica’ after the Sanskrit word ‘Dramidaka’ meaning the southernmost region of Bharata (Indian subcontinent) thus the Oldest literary works and inscriptions of Kerala refers to the three main political entities of Dramida (KL and TN) as ‘Kerala-Country, Chola-Country, Pandya-Country’ in which Mahodayapuram (I.e Makkothayarpattanam in Old Malayalam) was the capital of the Kerala king whereas the terms ''sangam age' and 'second chera empire' are used by modern historians to create an 'historical time period' for the occurrence of the mythological events and kings as relating to the hindu, jain, and buddhist mythology as written in Tamil language (i.e pattitrupattu, silapathikaram, manimegalai, periyapuranam etc) : For Example: The invaders from Tamil Nadu in the 11th century themselves referred to Keralam (i.e Seralam in Tamil) as the 'Land of Parashurama' in their copper-plate inscription but bias historians disregard native Kerala traditions and proclaim the Tamil Nadu mythological works and traditions which refers to the kings and temples of Kerala (i.e Sera-Nadu) as Kerala history and even Language when it is proven by linguists that the grammatical principles of Malayalam language contrasts from Tamil language due to the natural differences in the syntax, semantics and phonology between the regional languages of the east and west of the Ghats mountain ranges since known history.
Sir, The vernacular language of Kerala (i.e Keralabhasha) referred to as 'Tamizh' in the Kerala literary works possessed its own phonological and morphological features distinct from the 'Tamizh' of the inhabitants East of the Ghats (i.e Pandi, Chola, Konga, Thonda) in Indian history. For Example: "Sri vedavyaasa mahaarishi aruli cheyytha brahmaanda puraanathin madhyabhaagathe itha njaan tamizhaayi kondu ariyikkunnen" - Malayalam - Brahmanda Puranam (14th Century C.E) The manuscripts and inscriptions of Kerala in Grantha, Vattezhuthu, Kolezhuthu etc until the 18th century C.E is able to show the linguistic continuity of our Malayalam language since the 9th Century C.E as consisting of nasalised and non-nasalised words (ex. ninnu, ninru etc) or words with and without the diphthong ai (ex. kara, karai etc) or the use of verbs with and without personal endings (ex. cholli, chonnal etc) as well as Sanskrit derivatives (Ex. thevan (deva), pakkaran (bhaskara), keyavan (keshava), kirithan (krishna), kandan (skanda) etc) For Example: “Purakizhanadu moothakooru vazhumavar vannu thiruvadiye thozhuthal moonnazhiyal ayiranaazhi ari koduthu iraiyipikkadavar”- Malayalam - Thirunelli Inscription- 10th century C.E For Example: "Maadhavi mandhasmitham cheyythu kumppittu ninru madhuryatharavacha vasviyottu chonnal" - Malayalam - Mahabharatham - 16th Century C.E For Example: "Kollamaandu ennoottirupathinalu makaramasam avanaparambil kandan vazhakkarai kanakka balikkal pani cheyyiththu" -Malayalam - Vettikkavala Inscription - 17th Century C.E The Dravidian languages of Malayalam, Tamil, Tulu, Kannada, Telugu etc as consisting of common/similar Sanskrit derivatives and common/similar words and other such common/similar grammatical features including personal endings as found in the inscriptions or manuscripts or in the colloquial language including the Tribal Languages (ex. Irula, Kurumba etc) are all emerging from a Proto-Dravidian language meaning an undocumented common spoken language in pre-history as attested by all linguists today. ‘The view that Malayalam as having diverged from Tamil is certainly wrong, as we can see from the several archaic features of Malayalam.” - David Dean Shulman (linguist) : "The preservation of many early linguistic features in Malayalam and the altered reflections of those features in Tamil point to the differentiation between the East coast (Tamil area) and the West coast (Malayalam area)” - A. Govindankutty Menon (linguist) The Earliest extant Kerala literary works refers to Kerala as the Crown of Bharata (i.e Indian subcontinent) in which the Keralites from Kolavishaya (Kolathunadu) to Velavishaya (Venadu) as conducting trade among the Foreign Traders from abroad and south India referred to as Cheenas (Chinese), Yonakas (Middle-Easterners), Thulukkas (Thurukshas), Kannadas (Karnata), Chozhiyas (Chola), Pandiyas (Pandya) etc in the marketplace of the prominent cities of the Kerala-Country (i.e Keraladesha) referred to as 'Male or Malabar' by the Foreign Travelers since the 6th Century C.E in the historical accounts or as 'Kerala' in the various Sanskrit literary works of ancient India. : For Example: Raghuvamsha - Kalidasa - 5th Century C.E - "....Kerala yoshitham alakeshu... - meaning - "the locks of curled hair of the Kerala women" : Only Kerala has the richest and longest history of Manipravalam and the 14th century treatise Lilatilakam, the only descriptive meta-text on Maniparavalam defines it as the union of Sanskrit and Kerala-Bhasha (i.e Malayalam) as opposed to the union of Sanskrit with Pandya, Chola, Andhra or other regional south Indian languages. : For Example: Sakala phalasamriddhyai keralanaam prathaapam periya parashuramasyaajnjaaya yathra nithyam kanivodu mazha kaalam paarthupaarthar bhakaanaam janani mulakoduppaan ennapole varunnu” - Manipravalam (Malayalam-Sanskrit) - Candrotsavam (15th century C.E) : The term 'Ketalaputo, Damira, Bambbana, Raya, Vanna etc' in the local north Indian literary works or Prakrit inscriptions since the 3rd century B.C are the phonetic modifications of the Sanskrit word 'Keralaputra, Dramida, Brahmana, Raja, Varna etc' in history just as the term 'Seralam, Tamizhakam, Parppanar, Arasar, Sathi etc' in the local Hindu, Jain and Buddhist mythology of Tamil Nadu now called as 'Sangam Literature' (i.e purananuru, akananuru, silapathikaram, manimegalai etc) as dated between the 8th century C.E and 13th Century C.E by numerous historians are the phonetic modification of the Sanskrit word 'Kerala, Dramidaka, Brahmana, Raja, Jathi etc' in history. For Example: The Sanskrit term 'Braahmana' is written as 'Paarppana' in the Oldest Tamil Nadu literary work Tholkappiyam as attested by the Tamil Nadu historians themselves and similarly, the Oldest Tamil Nadu grammatical and mythological literary works (ex. tholkappiyam, purananuru, silapathikaram, divya prabandham, periyapuranam etc) as dated between 8th Century C.E and 13th Century C.E by numerous scholars refers to various castes or 'Saathi' in Tamil (i.e Jaathi in Sanskrit) in which it specifically refers to the Paarppanaar (Brahmanas) and Arasar (Rajas) or the Uyar-Pirappaalar meaning 'High-Born' as occupying the highest position within the social hierarchy of Tamil Nadu whereas the Tamil Nadu castes such as Vellalar, Kammalar, Maravar, Paraiyar, Pulaiyar, Kuravar, Kallar etc in Tamil Nadu history were referred to as Suthira in Tamil (i.e Shudra in Sanskrit) and as Sandala in Tamil (i.e Chandala in Sanskrit) and as the Izhi-Pirappaalar meaning 'Low-Born' as attested by the Tamil Nadu historians themselves It is the Europeans beginning with the Portuguese who have referred to the people of Tamil Nadu including their Indentured Labourers as 'Tamuls' (Tamils) after the name of their local language whereas the people of Tamil Nadu or ‘Tamils’ irrespective of caste were referred to as a 'Pandi, Chola, Konga, Thonda' in all of known Indian history including Kerala (Malabar) history in which the large number of Tamils referred to as 'Tamuls' by the Europeans who took refuge in Malabar (Kerala) from Madurai Sultan, Madurai Nayaks etc until the 18th Century C.E or the Tamil Plantation Workers thereafter were collectively referred to as a 'Pandi' by the Matrilineal castes of Kerala (Malabar) including Ezhavas in history (ex. Pandi Pattar, Pandi Vellala, Pandi Ezhava, Pandi Pulaya, Pandi Kurava etc). For Example: Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521) - “In this land of Malabar (Kerala) from cumbla (kasaragod district) to cape comorin (kanyakumari district), all men use one tongue only which they call Maliama” (i.e Malayalam) The north indian Prakrit texts refers to the writing scripts of the 'geographical region' of Kerala and Tamil Nadu as 'Damili' after the Sanskrit word 'Dramidi' and ‘Dravidalipi since the 3rd Century B.C whereas the term 'Tamili' or 'Tamil-Brahmi' is just a modern term as concocted by scholars in the 20th century for an older variety of scripts as now discovered from Tamil Nadu and Kerala which closely resemble Ashokan Brahmi inscriptions. The literary works of tamil nadu now called as 'sangam literature's' by modern scholars as found written in a mixture of Tamil script, Grantha script and Telugu script which refers to the kings and regions of Kerala (i.e seralam in tamil) and numerous other chieftains of the mountainous tracts and elsewhere in Tamil Nadu region such as Andiran, Nandan, Pekan, Nalli, Ori, Kari etc are not historical documents or historical figures but a collection of Hindu, Jain and Buddhist mythology of Tamil Nadu as written in Tamil language between 8th century C.E and 13th century C.E. (ex. pattitrupattu, purananuru, agananuru, silapathikaram, manimegalai etc) as per several historians whereas the oldest Kannada literature is dated to the 9th century C.E , and the oldest Telugu literature is dated to the 11th century C.E, and the oldest Malayalam literature is dated to the 12th century C.E. The Dravidian languages of Malayalam, Tamil, Tulu, Kannada, Telugu etc including the Tribal Languages (ex. Irula, Kurumba etc) are all emerging from a Proto-Dravidian language meaning an undocumented common spoken language in pre-history as attested by all linguists today.
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Why the Malayalam history starts from 13th century RamaCharitham??? What about the period before 13th Century? What about those who lived before 13th Century in Kerala? We have thousands of old malayalam Cheppedugal available before 13th Century... Why you are not mentioning about those? What about "Thiruvalla Cheppedukal" , "Tharisapalli Plates" and "Kandiyur inscriptions"??? have you heard about those ??? Don't they belongs to Kerala???
The inscriptions of Kerala pre-13th century are in Old Malayalam and Sanskrit. "The preservation of many early linguistic features in Malayalam and the altered reflections of those features in Tamil point to the differentiation between the East coast language (Tamil) and the West coast language (Malayalam)” - A. Govindankutty Menon For Example: “Swasthi Sree…Ramar thiruvadi koyiladhikaarikalaayina sree kulashekhara chakravarthikal kurakkeni kollaththu panankaavin koyilakathirunnu aruliya naal ariyarodu vanna virodhathinu prayaschitham…..” - Royal Order of Ramavarma Kulashekharan (12th century C.E) - Kollam rameshwaram Inscription - source: Indian antiquary “Swasthi Sree…Purakizhanaadu moothakooru vazhumavar vannu thiruvadiye thozhuthaal moonnaazhiyaal aayiranaazhi ari koduthu irayippikkadavar….” - Royal Order of Bhaskara Ravi Varman (11th century C.E) - Thirunelli Inscription - source: Indian antiquary “Malabar (i.e Malayalam Country) is a great province lying towards the west of the province of Bandi (i.e Pandya) and the people here have a language of their own, and a king of their own, and pay tribute to nobody.”- Marco Polo (13th century C.E).
@Akmal Hk If that is your logic. Then sl Tamil dialect should be totally different language. There are differences in one language best example Kannada. Kannada spoken in north Karnataka is different from south Karnataka. Tamil itself has 13 variations. Also cheras are from kongunad not from Malabar region.
The inscriptions of Kerala as dated between the 9th century C.E and 12th Century C.E is referred to as 'Old Malayalam' by linguists because the inscriptions of Kerala as dated between the 13th century C.E and 16th century C.E shows linguistic continuity with minimal differences hence it is termed as 'Middle Malayalam' by linguists. There were common/similar words in all the Dravidian languages of India including the Tribal Languages (ex. Irula, Kurumba etc) in history as they are all emerging from a Proto-Dravidian language meaning an undocumented common spoken language in pre-history as attested by all linguists today. : Malayalam language (i.e Keralabhasha) is just as old and classical as any other Dravidian languages including Tamil hence the phonology and vocabulary of Keralites to this very day are found in the Oldest mythological literary works and inscriptions of Tamil Nadu (ex. njan, njandu, thudangi, pettu, aliyan, achan etc) as the grammatical principles of Malayalam language (i.e Keralabhasha) was contrasting from the ‘Tamizh’ of the inhabitants of Tamil Nadu referred to as 'Pandi, Chozha, Konga' in Kerala history due to the phonological and morphological differences between the regional languages of the East and West of the Ghats mountain ranges since known history. (Ex. Njan in Malayalam is Nan in Tamil)
Guys malayalam is not daughter or sister language of tamizh. They are also tamizhan who used more sanskrit words. That's it Genetic researchers said tamizh and malayalee people have same skeleton structure. Chera, pandiya, chola they are united and very strong in 2000 year ago, so only maurya or ashoka kingdom can't able to touch Tamizhagam...
@@sidharthponnangan2726 running or not running...!there are influence of other language in every language.Influence of sanskrit is common language as the ancient classical language.
Paccha Malayalam is true malayalam and the purest Malayalam ... It is wrong to say Malayalam is combination of Sanskrit and evolved Chera Tamil ... For eg if you remove Sanskrit from Malayalam,the sentence will entirely remain Malayalam..But if you remove Dravidian element from Malayalam the sentence will not remain as malayalam but Sanskrit..
Most of the Malayali population do not know or do not believe their Tamil origin. The major reason is that they are not taught the correct history in school. History of Kerala and history of Malayalam Language is falsified with plenty of wrong informations. According to the historians from Kerala and as per their records, the history of Kerala starts from around 9th - 10th century AD. The history of Malayalam language starts from around 13th - 14th century AD. Anything before that period is a mystery to the Malayali population. No one knows who lived in Kerala before 10th century and what language they spoke. It is so surprising to see that one of the highly literate state is doing so poor when it comes to their own history. The funniest part is that, some people still argue that Malayalam is a sister language to Tamil and both came from a common ancestor not realising which language was the mother of Malayalam. Also, no one knows the history of Chera people who were the actual ancestors of entire Kerala population (excluding the migrants).
@Prophet Bomb Let me explain how they were deprived of their own history. Below are the things Malayalis are not taught or completely not aware of, even though these are are all very much part of their ancient past. 👍👍😊😊 They were made to believe that the mother of the Malayalam language was some prototype ancient language instead of Tamil - There are multiple claims that Malayalam evolved from a proto-dravidian language. But, no one realises that the proto-dravidian language itself was ancient Tamil. 😊😊 I see many claims from some of the Malayali friends that the old Tamil and the middle Tamil and the Modern Tamil are very different. Just for all of your info, Tamil is still following the same grammar which was defined during the first millennium BC. There is no diversion here. 😊😊 It is still the same language unchanged grammatically. There could be new words added during the modern era due to the modern usage. But, still the old word is used. 😊😊 The Sangam literature and the Pre-Sangam period grammar is still relevant and that is the core even today. So there is no question of old, middle or new. It’s just the continuation of the same language for the last three millenniums 😊😊 They are not aware about, into which language Sanskrit words were added desperately and that created Malayalam language - As per Kerala's recorded history, Malayalam was born From the Manipravalam form. At least everyone in Kerala agrees to this. 👍👍👍 Now, let’s see what is Manipravalam? Manipravalam മണിപ്രവാളം/ மணிப்ரவாளம் / மணிஇடைபவழம் நடை was a literary style used in medieval liturgical texts in ancient Thamizhagam. 👍👍 All must note here that Only when Tamil and Sanskrit is mixed, Manipravalam style of literature is born. not anything else. Mani-pravalam literally means ruby-coral, where Mani means ruby in Sanskrit while Pravalam means Coral in Tamil. Sanskrit is referred to as ruby and Tamil as coral. 😊😊 Now, you can do the simple math yourself and find out sanskrit got mixed with which language? So, it clearly suggests that Tamil was language which got mixed with Sanskrit, thus creating Malayalam. 👍👍 They are not at all aware what was the early native language’s grammar structure before Sanskritization - One must remember that any non-sanskrit words in Malayalam have their own grammar which has been followed in Tamil for centuries even before Sanskit was developed as an advanced language. 😊😊 For an example we have a word called “Noottaandugal”/ നൂറ്റാണ്ടുകൾ / நூற்றாண்டுகள் . When Nooru + aandugal joins together, the word Noottaandugal is derived. As per Tamil grammar there are three rules/formulas applied when adding the two words Nooru + aandugal and to convert into Noottaandugal as one single word. This was defined in Tamil well before Sanskit came to Kerala. 😊😊 So, is it possible to find the root words from Malayalam’s perspective for the Malayalam word “Iruunnalledathu”/ ഇരുന്നള്ളേടത്തു ? I am sure with Tamil grammar, we can still break this word in to the actual root words and we can say what rule can be applied and how this can be formed into one single word. Give it a try. 👍👍 Not aware of the glorious Sangam period literature (From 300 BC to 300 AD) and not taught about any of the kerala’s ancient Chera author’s literary works - Sangam literature talks about ancient Kerala (Chera Nadu) and recorded the life of ancient Chera people and their lives in many of its works. No one is aware of that. And it is surprising to see that some people claiming that Sangam literature never existed. 👍👍 This makes me laugh sometimes, because these are the people who cant believe the hundreds of ancient songs mentioning ancient kerala in detail and at the same time these are the people who tell others that Kerala was created by throwing an Axe. 😊😊😊 Not taught about the ancient Chera Tamil Landscapes - The entire Chera country (Today’s Kerala) was classified into “Thinnai”s according to the Sangam period Tamil landscapes (Kurinji, Mullai, Marudham, Neidhal, Palai). Even today, we can see that In Kerala, many places named after the ancient Tamil Landscapes. 😊😊😊 I don't think anyone has any idea about this either. Not aware why the ancient temples and ancient villages, Towns, Cities are starting with the Tamil honorific prefix “Thiru” and also Not aware why the names of ancient villages, Towns, Cities ending with “Oor” or “Peroor”- Just for an example, Thrissur - Thrissur's Old name was “Thiru Siva Peroor”. (Peroor means Periya + oor in Tamil). 👍👍 No one uses Periya in Malayalalam. Instead they use Valliya. If Periya is not a word in Malayalam, then how did Thrissur, the cultural city of Kerala got the Tamil name Periya Oor? Also, Thiru is used extensively in almost all ancient places with ancient Temples. 😊😊😊 So, this means that Kerala’s ancient past was Tamil and all the places in Kerala before tenth century were named as per Tamil prefixes and suffixes. 😊😊 Not aware of the ancient Tamil-Brahmi scripts even though many ancient artefacts found from Kerala were written in Tamil-Brahmi - I see that many from Kerala claim that the Brahmi letters came from north to South and also, they do not accept the fact that the ancient Brahmi letters found in Kerala were Tamil. 👍👍👍 I would like to pinpoint something here. From the Adichanallur archeology sites, archeologists unearthed many pots with Tamil-Brahmi letters in it. They belong to 500 BC which is roughly 200 years before Ashoka’s edicts. So, and the first one to introduce the Brahmi letters in India were Tamils. 😊😊 Please see, Newly discovered Brahmi inscription decipheredNot aware of Kerala's ancient Buddhism and Jainism past - The entire Kerala was a Buddhist country 2000 years back and the Jains and the buddhists lived side by side. 😊😊 As per the current corrupt historians of Kerala, the History of Kerala starts only after 10th century, hence, there is no way that Malayalis will come to know about their Buddhist past and their Jain past. 😊😊 (for all the people who deny their actual history, please check who was Karumadi Kuttan in kerala’s history and how did he ended up in the nearby stream and who damaged him and threw him there thousand years back. 👍👍👍 Check the following links for your reference.Karumadikkuttan - Wikipedia , Jainism in Kerala - Wikipedia , Neelamperoor Palli Bhagavathi Temple - Wikipedia . There are so many proofs in kerala. Anyone can do their own simple research to find out more.Not aware of ancient Epics originated in Kerala 2000 years back- There were so many sangam period songs written in Tamil which talks about Kerala’s ancient past. None of that is taught to the Malayali younger generations. 👍👍👍 Also, no historians is interested in looking at it as they firmly believes that the Kerala’s history starts only after 10th century AD. 😊😊 Not knowing who Kannagi was. Even though Kodungallur temple and Attukal temples are dedicated to Kannagi and not aware why Chilambu is so sacred in Kerala tradition - Kannagi is a Tamil women who lived 2000 years back and she is the central character of the Tamil epic Chilapathikaram / Silapathikaram which was written in Kerala by a Cheran author Illango adigal. 😊😊😊 She has been considered as a god in the Tamil country for the past 2000 years. As kerala was a Tamil buddhist country at that time, she was elevated to a goddess status in buddhism and kerala buddhist people started worshipping her. This has spread into the nearby buddhist country Srilanka and Srilankan buddhists also started worshiping Kannagi as Pattini Devi. 👍👍The Sirlankan Tamils worship her as Kannagi Amman. The Tamils from Tamilnadu has many temples for Kannagi and she is worshipped even today as Amman. (The Amman with chilambu in hand). 😊😊 Malayalis worship her as Kodungallur Bagavathy and Aattukal Devi. Also, kannagi’s Chilambu is so sacred in many temples in kerala. 😊😊😊 The Velichappadu concept and the Bharani celebrations are all for Kannagi only. But, unfortunately the Kerala historians had other plans and Kannagi is not known in kerala history after 10th century AD. Her name has been changed post that. 😊😊 All the above points are not to criticise the Malayali community as a whole for not knowing their history. It is just to create an awareness and to point out that how ill informed they are about their own history. 😊😊😊 I see my Malayali brothers as the Jack Nicholson’s of India who were cheated by their own kings and Rulers and historians for more than 8 centuries now. 😊😊 So, to answer this question once again, Not knowing their Tamil origin is not their mistake. 😊😊 Blacking out Kerala’s history was a well planned conspiracy plotted by the migrants who came to Kerala and started ruling the country independently from the end of 12th century onwards.
@@sabarieesan4006 if hindi clans are hegemonistic Tamil clan are fanatics Kerala has its own history and language .. may be at a same point of time the languages were similar. Say it was proto dravidian .. and from that language all south indian languages evolved .. tamil fanatics say it was tamil and tamil is the mother of all languages .. it's bulshit concept
Yes, Malayalam has vocabularies borrowed from Sanskrit and other languages. That applies to other languages as well. As a language, Malayalam stands on its own with its unique features.
@@cotter266 Malayalam is not derived from Middle Tamil. That is just mainstream propaganda. Grammatical structures of Malayalam are very different from Tamil. Malayalam had at least forms of 4 present tenses since ancient times. This is not found in Old Tamil. In Old Tamil, there were only past and non past tenses. Present tense and Future tense "started" appearing only in Middle Tamil. David Dean Schulman (the author of the book "Tamil") points out that there has been a wrong tendency among historical linguists to think that Malayalam was diverged directly from Tamil. “There has been a tendency among historical linguists to think of Malayalam as having diverged directly from Tamil (the Tamil is spoken from the ancient times in what is today Kerala), perhaps as late as the thirteenth century. But this view is almost certainly wrong. Tamil and Malayalam must have separated from one another at a much earlier stage perhaps around the first millennium AD, as we can see from the several surviving archaic features of Malayalam." David Dean Shulman, author of Tamil (page 6) - A Biography, The Belkman's Press of Harvard University Press, 2016.
Historically speaking, Malayalam (also known as Malabar language) was the only language of Old Malabar. In 15th century and 16th century, Malabar (also known as Old Malabar) refers to the region from Kumbla (located 11 Km north of Kasargod, a town in Today’s Kerala) to Cape Comorin (Kanyakumari which is now in Today’s Tamil Nadu). Portuguese Explorer and Writer Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521) points out that the land of Malabar begins from the place called Cumbola (Kumbla) and it ends at Cape of Comorin (Kanyakumari) and all men use one tongue only which they call “Maliama” (that is Malayalam). Malayazhma and Malayayma are variants of Malayalam. (Book “The Book of Duarte Barbosa: An Account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, written by Duarte Barbosa and completed about the Year 1518 A.D.” by Mansel Longworth Dames, Vol. 2, Pg. 1-7). During the time of Portuguese Explorer and Writer Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521),Tamil was spoken in the kingdom of Narsyngua. Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521) points out that the Kingdom of Narsyngua (The extensive Hindu Kingdom of Vijayanagar was known to Portuguese as Narsinga from the name of ruling Raja at the time of Vasco Da Gama’s first arrival in India. His name was Narasinha or Narsingha.) is so great that it had five vast provinces, each with its own language. The first of these extends along the coast as far as Malabar, and this they call Tolinate (Tulu-nada), another in the back-country behind it, which they call Danseam Rayen. The next which marches with the kingdom of Narsyngua proper, is called Telingu (Telugu); then the city of Bisnaga (Vijayanagar) itself, which they call Canarim (Kannada), and the kingdom of Charamandel (Coromandel), where the language is Tamul (Tamil). (Book “The Book of Duarte Barbosa: An Account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, written by Duarte Barbosa and completed about the Year 1518 A.D.” by Mansel Longworth Dames, Vol. 1, Pg. 182-184).
இந்தியா முழுவதும் பரவி இருந்த ஒரே மொழி தமிழ் பிற்காலத்தில் வந்த ஆரிய பார்ப்பனர்கள் ஆதி பழமையான தமிழை நடைமாற்றிட சமஸ்கிருத மொழியை புகுத்தியதன் விளைவாகவும் இடைச்செருகல் சூழ்ச்சியாலும் நெடுந்தூரம் பயணம் செய்த மொழி தொடர்பை இழந்து தெலுங்கு கன்னடம் மலையாளம் துளு ஆகிய மொழிகளாக உருமாறியது இவை அனைத்தும் ஒரே மொழி தமிழ் ஈன்ற மொழிகளே
The word tamil itself came thammil(in between) which in other words, a language used to communicate between two or more people.. Malayalam without sanskrit is pure tamizh..
Sanskrit ot Tamil? Which is ancient? 1) Tamil is the mother tongue of a very large group of people in the Indian subcontinent. Sanskrit is the mother tongue of no ethnic group. 2) Sanskrit does not have a script of its own. It was earlier written in brahmi. 3) According to Jyoti Basu & Ambedkar, Tamil was spoken all over the Indian subcontinent. Immigration of foreigners like afghans, aryans (central Asians), west Asians, persians, Greeks, Romans etc into this subcontinent for purposes of invasion & trade, led to mixing of their languages with tamil in a very minor manner and produced all other current languages like marathi, bengali, hindi, malayalam, kannada, punjabi etc. The permanent immigrants like aryans lost their original language & spoke tamil with very minor influence from their original languages. 4) Prakrit (baagatham in tamil) means "original" & refers to the vast tamil language spoken in various regions with various accents, various set of words & various grammatical structures but later evolved into different languages due to mixing with foreign languages. 5) Prakrit was refined for worship purpose & later used for literature. That was how sanskrit was born.
shyamala hariharan you are wrong. How can malayalam without Sanskrit be tamil?? There are many words in Malayalam which is neither tamil nor Sanskrit. Do some research. I think you are not from Kerala..
@@Truthholder345 1) Tamil is the mother tongue of a very large group of people in the Indian subcontinent. Sanskrit is the mother tongue of no ethnic group. 2) Sanskrit does not have a script of its own. It was earlier written in brahmi. 3) According to Jyoti Basu & Ambedkar, Tamil was spoken all over the Indian subcontinent. Immigration of foreigners like afghans, aryans (central Asians), west Asians, persians, Greeks, Romans etc into this subcontinent for purposes of invasion & trade, led to mixing of their languages with tamil in a very minor manner and produced all other current languages like marathi, bengali, hindi, malayalam, kannada, punjabi etc. The permanent immigrants like aryans lost their original language & spoke tamil with very minor influence from their original languages. 4) Prakrit (baagatham in tamil) means "original" & refers to the vast tamil language spoken in various regions with various accents, various set of words & various grammatical structures but later evolved into different languages due to mixing with foreign languages. 5) Prakrit was refined for worship purpose & later used for literature. That was how sanskrit was born.
Malayalam IS a separate language. Thinking otherwise is hubris. It has evolved from two great ancient languages. Tamil with a lot of influence from Sanskrit. It has its own script and grammar. To not see the worth of another language and dismiss it as a 'dialect' is blind chauvinism of the first order.
attitudego i am confused.some kerala people say we dont speak MANKALISH(kerala language malayalam +english).speak suddha (pure)malayalam. why should remove only ENGLISH from malayalam.must be remove தமிழ்(TAMIL),SANSKRIT,PORTHUGIZU from malayalam.then only we call malayalam is sperate language.some one telling தமிழ் just make ur qn(?) clearly we can answer perfectly about தமிழ். :)
shadow light So Tamil is perfectly evolved indigenously without any outside influence. eh.. ok. But most languages in the world have taken loan words from other languages. So according to you, English, german french etc are just dialects of latin. k.. Whatever rocks your boat man.
attitudego Tamil is not influence other languages.தமிழ் always its own stand "Tamil(தமிழ்) constitutes the only literary tradition indigenous to india that is not derived from sanskrit.indeed its literature arose before the influence of sanskrit in the south became strong and so. is qualitatively different from anything we have sanskrit or other indian languages.(தமிழ்)it has OWN poetic theory.its OWN grammatical tradition....this article from Professor George L.Hart.Dean of Linguistics in the university of Berkeley.california) Tamil is seprate languge.its active with out any other influence.or loan words. Malayalam is not seprate language.if u remove english ,sanskrit,tamil from malayalam is not operate.because its live loan words or influence.its NOT OWN stand.this is fact.i am not aginst any languages.but this is fact. :)
Not against any languages but putting down others and blowing your own trumpet. :P As I said earlier, Tamil is a great language. But that does not mean that other languages should be considered second class. Different languages develop differently. Please dont be chauvinistic. Its either shows insecurity or a rabid superiority complex. Dont compare languages. Its not language but content that matters. Peace.
Nithin90 hello brother is not jeevaka chinthamani its "ceevaga chinthamani" cee not jee. "aga nanooru, purananooru, kurunthogai, inkurunooru, pathupattu, pathithu patchu..these all tamil literature's in tamil name. Agasthiya is not related with tamil language. Tamil and sanskrit are old languages in this country.
The land of 'Kerala or Keralajanapadha or Keralaputhra' in Indian history since the 3rd Century B.C to 12th Century C.E referred to as Malayalam, Malanadu, Malamandalam etc in Kerala history after the Sanskrit word 'Malaya' as denoting the western ghats did not consist of any region east of the Ghats or the region of Tamil Nadu once referred to as 'Kongu-Nadu, Pandi-Nadu, Chola-Nadu etc' in Indian history hence the 1st century and 2nd century European travelers specifically refers to the capital of Keralaputhra as situated 20 stadia (3 km) inland from the sea-coast or in present day Kerala. : The kings of Kerala are referred to as belonging to the Keralakula (i.e Kerala-Dynasty) in the Oldest Sanskrit works of Kerala as the sovereign of Kerala was titled as ‘Keralaputhra’ in Sanskrit since the 3rd Century B.C and similarly Yakshan Keralan, Godha Keralan, Kerala Narayanan, Keralan Srikumaran etc are the various other personal names of Keralites as present in the Oldest Inscriptions of Kerala in Old Malayalam since the 9th century C.E as the Kerala-Country and its capital was under the dominion of the Naaduvaazhikal (i.e vallabhapattanam king, mahodhayapattanam king, kolambhapattanam king etc) as attested by native records and foreign travelers including Al-Biruni since the 11th century C.E : For Example: "Malabar (i.e Malayalam Country) is a great province lying towards the west 'of the province of Bandi (i.e Pandya)' and the people here have a language of their own and a king of their own and pay tribute to nobody." - Marco Polo (13th century C.E). : It is accepted by Tamil Nadu scholars that the Sanskrit term 'Chola' was written as 'SoRa' in the various Tamil inscriptions of the Chola-Dynasty and similarly, the 'Kerala' kings were referred to as 'SeRa' in the inscriptions of the Invaders from Tamil Nadu until the 12th century C.E as the term 'Sera or Seralan' in Tamil is the transliteration of 'Kerala' in Sanskrit whereas the term 'Pandi or Pandiyan' in Tamil is the transliteration of 'Pandya' in Sanskrit as the term 'Sora or Soran' in Tamil is the transliteration of 'Chola' in Sanskrit hence the land of Kerala was referred to as Cheraman-Nadu, Cheraman-Loka, Chera-Bhumi etc in Kerala records itself. : For Example: "...sarvam eve anupashyata tathaiva Andhran cha Pundran cha Cholan, Pandyan, Keralan." - Valmiki Ramayanam - Kishkindha Kanda : The 7th century to 12th century inscriptions of Tamil Nadu refers to multiple Pandya kings and Chola kings as having invaded the region of “Malainadu or Kerala” and the Tamil Nadu king Raja Raja Chola (985 C.E -1014 C.E) in his inscriptions on the conquest of Kerala claims that his army invaded the country which was the Creation Of Parashurama (Kerala) and plundered the town of Vizhinjam, Kollam, Kodungallur etc which itself shows that the land of Kerala was known as the Parashurama Kshetra (i.e creation of parashurama) among even the non-keralites in history. : The ancient European travelers of the 1st and 2nd century C.E have referred to the geographical region of North India or the land between Himalaya mountains and Vindhya mountains as 'Ariaca' after the Sanskrit word 'Aryaka' (i.e Aryadesha) whereas they referred to the geographical region of Kerala (i.e Keralaputhra) as 'Damirica' after the Sanskrit word 'Dramidaka' (i.e Dramidadesha) meaning the southernmost region of Bharata (i.e Indian subcontinent) hence the Oldest literary works and inscriptions of Kerala itself refers to the geographical region of Kerala as 'Dramida' in which the city of Mahodayapuram (i.e Makkothayarpattanam in Old Malayalam) or Thiruvanchikulam (i.e Srianjanakhalam in Sanskrit) or Muyirikodu (muziris) in Old Malayalam as situated on the banks of the river Periyar (i.e Mahanadhi, Choorni etc in Sanskrit) was the capital of the Kerala king titled as 'Keraladhinatha' in Sanskrit or 'Cherabhumishvara' in Malayalam (i.e Keralabhasha). : For Example: "Keralaanaam dramida shabdhavaachythvaad apabhramshena tadbhaasha tamizh ithyuchyathe" - Lilathilakam - Meaning - "The language of Kerala is known as Tamizh in the vernacular through the phonetic modification of the word Dramida." : The term 'Tamizhakam' in the Tamil grammar Tolkapiyam itself is the transliteration of 'Dramidaka' in Sanskrit and not denoting a single culture or language or kingdom or history but a common geographical region as consisting of KL and TN thereby the author has recognised 12 regional dialects in which 5 dialects are pertaining to Kerala and 7 dialects are pertaining to Tamil Nadu just as the Tamil grammar Nannul of the 13th century hence the Kerala records have also differentiated the language of Dramida (i.e Tamizh) into Pandyabhasha (pandi language), Cholabhasha (chola language) and Keralabhasha (malayalam language) in history. : The inscriptions of Kerala as dated between the 9th century C.E and 12th Century C.E is referred to as 'Old Malayalam' by linguists because the inscriptions of Kerala as dated between the 13th century C.E and 16th century C.E shows linguistic continuity with minimal differences hence it is termed as 'Middle Malayalam' by linguists.Malayalam language (i.e Keralabhasha) is just as old and classical as any other Dravidian languages including Tamil hence the phonology and vocabulary of Keralites to this very day are found in the Oldest mythological literary works and inscriptions of Tamil Nadu (ex. njan, njandu, thudangi, pettu, aliyan, achan etc) as the grammatical principles of Malayalam language (i.e Keralabhasha) was contrasting from the ‘Tamizh’ of the inhabitants of Tamil Nadu due to the phonological and morphological differences between the regional languages of the East and West of the Ghats mountain ranges since known history. (Ex. Njan in Malayalam is Nan in Tamil) : ‘The view that Malayalam as having diverged from Tamil is certainly wrong, as we can see from the several archaic features of Malayalam.” - David Dean Shulman : "The preservation of many early linguistic features in Malayalam and the altered reflections of those features in Tamil point to the differentiation between the East coast (Tamil area) and the West coast (Malayalam area)” - A. Govindankutty Menon : The terms 'Tamizh, Naazhi, Pazham, Pavizham, Makizham etc' in Old Malayalam are all derived from the Sanskrit words 'Dramida, Naadi, Phala, Pravala, Makula etc' as such phonetic modifications or transliterations of Sanskrit words are present in all the Dravidian languages since known literary history and similarly, the terms 'Ketala, Choda, Pada' etc in the Ashoka Edicts of the 3rd Century B.C in Prakrit language are the transliterations of the Sanskrit word 'Kerala, Chola, Pandya' etc as attested by all linguists today. : The terms Cherakon (i.e Keralakularaaja in Sanskrit), Kunnalakon (i.e Shailabdhishvara in Sanskrit), Valluvakon (i.e Vallabhakshoni in Sanskrit), Piraamanar (i.e Brahmana in Sanskrit) etc as found in Old Malayalam and Middle Malayalam inscriptions and literary works are NOT denoting the people of Tamil Nadu or 'Tamilans' irrespective of caste referred to as a 'Pandi, Chola, Konga, Thonda' in all of known Indian history but the people of Kerala referred to as 'Keralar' and 'Malayalar' alone in Indian history. : For Example: The kings of Kerala were referred to as 'Malayala Thiruvadi' in the inscription of South India as dated to the 13th Century C.E while the kings of Tamil Nadu were referred to as Pandya and Chola in the same inscription of the Kakatiya Dynasty of South India because the people of Tamil Nadu now known as 'Tamilans' were referred to as a 'Pandi, Chola, Konga, Thonda' in all of known Indian history including Kerala literary works until the 14th Century C.E while the people of Kerala including the Kings were referred to as 'Keralar' and 'Malayalar' alone in Indian history. : The region of modern Tamil Nadu as consisting of dharmapuri, salem, coimbatore etc as comprising of an earlier independent territorial unit known as ‘Kongu-Nadu’ were under their local chieftains referred to as 'Adiya or Adiyaman' until the 12th Century C.E in Indian history whereas it is the land of Kerala as comprising of the independent territorial unit known as ‘Malayalam’ or 'Malabar' who were under the local chieftains referred to as ‘Chera or Cheraman’ until the 12th century C.E in Indian history. : For Example: "The pagans (Hindus) of Malabar (Kerala) believes that a king (i.e a King of Kerala or Cheraman) had once ascended up to heaven and they continue to expect his descent therefore they assemble at cranganore (Kodungallur) and keep ready there wooden sandals, water and adorn the place with lamps and decorations on a certain night of the year" - Tuhfat al Mujahidin (16th Century C.E) : The Dravidian languages of Malayalam, Tamil, Tulu, Kannada, Telugu etc including the Tribal Languages (ex. Irula, Kurumba etc) as consisting of common/similar words are all emerging from a Proto-Dravidian language meaning an undocumented common spoken language in pre-history as attested by all linguists today hence there are places with common names in Kerala and Tamil Nadu even today (ex. Thondi, Musiri etc) thus it doesn't mean that the places of Kerala or 'Keralaputhra' referred to as Tyndis, Muziris etc by the travelers in the past were referring to the settlement of the people of Tamil Nadu or ‘Tamilans’ referred to as a 'Pandi, Chola, Konga, Thonda' in all of known Indian history including Kerala literary works until the 14th Century C.E but the people of Kerala referred to as ‘Keralar' and 'Malayalar' alone in Indian history. : For Example: “Among all the places in the world I have seen none equal to the Port of Alexandria except Kawlam (Kollam in Kerala) and Calicut (Kozhikodu in Kerala) in India” - Ibn Battuta (14th century C.E)
Please read this without prejudice to udnerstand the truth : Malayalam is malayalam. Thats it. Say no to language theories. No language can be made by humans by mixing 2-3 languages like chemicals. It only evolves. And no language has any ownership over any words(except scientific and classification terms which would be loaned from the country of origin). If madre is in latin and matr is in sanskrit, the origins might be same but the word belongs to both languages. The similarity could be because the most common word uttered by babies sounds similar to 'maa'. But we don't see any fight over it. Just accespt every language there is and stop the mother of language father of language obsession. Even tmail being oldest language is just a faux theory based on the arguments and historical proofs - but not one but many languages have existed long long ago before it and there might not be proof. Even Tamil is entirely different from proto Dravidian. What happens is tamilians calling proto Dravidian language as Tamil and then claiming legacy(while Tamil and proto Dravidian languages are different). All south indian languages have root in proto Dravidian which also claims legacy from Indus valley civilization. Malayalam evolved with proto Dravidian and Sanskrit roots again tracing back from Indus valley, telugu etc proto Dravidian and Prakrit and Sanskrit roots, Tamil more evolved differently and so on. Resist pandi obsession and say no to such dubious theories. More than 50% malayalees believe in these fake theories propagated by tamilians.
True, but today's Tamil also emerged from the ancient Tamil, which I am sure is also much much different today than that of those times. If we look at say the Roman languages it emerged from one into two and from the two emerged another two or three and so on and on.... So over 1000 or say 5000 years a language will have changed so much that the original and the recent one will have no relation in comparison. So the proud we Tamilian I am sure you agree that you cannot understand or speak that Tamil.
modern malayalam has connections to many other languages such as portuguese,Dutch . ,tamil,sanskrit,Arabic ,Syrian ,Persian ,Hebrew , in words and has some rare connections with mandarin chinese also, in lakshadweep Arabic script is used instead of Dravidian script to write malayalam language .
Malayalam script has evolved from the Grantha script by incorporating elements of Tigalari script. തിഗലാരി ലിപിയുടെ ഘടകങ്ങൾ ഉൾപ്പെടുത്തി ഗ്രന്ഥ ലിപിയിൽ നിന്നാണ് മലയാള ലിപി രൂപപ്പെട്ടത്.
Do people commenting know what Onam is celebrated for.. And how old Onam is... It is 12000 yrs old when king Bali ruled entire earth..so Malayalam ia that old. So after Sanskrit Malayalam is the oldest and then tamil
Sir, Kerala was one of the 7 janapadas (kingdoms) of Bharata (i.e Indian subcontinent) along with Tulanga (tulu region), Konkana (konkan region) etc that were collectively known as the 'Parashurama Kshetra' (i.e creation of parashurama) and Kerala was one of the 3 janapadas (kingdoms) of Dravidadesha (dravida region) meaning the southernmost region of Bharata (Indian subcontinent) along with Pandya Kingdom and Chola Kingdom as according to the Sanskrit scripture's (i.e Puranas) since known history. : The land of 'Kerala or Keralajanapadha or Keralaputhra' in Indian history since the 3rd Century B.C to 12th Century C.E referred to as Malayalam, Malanadu, Malamandalam etc in Kerala history after the Sanskrit word 'Malaya' as denoting the western ghats did not consist of any region east of the Ghats or the region of Tamil Nadu once referred to as 'Kongu-Nadu, Pandi-Nadu, Chola-Nadu etc' in Indian history hence the 1st century and 2nd century European travelers specifically refers to the capital of Keralaputhra as situated 20 stadia (3 km) inland from the sea-coast or in present day Kerala. : The kings of Kerala are referred to as belonging to the Keralakula (i.e Kerala-Dynasty) in the Oldest Sanskrit works of Kerala as the sovereign of Kerala was titled as ‘Keralaputhra’ in Sanskrit since the 3rd Century B.C and similarly Yakshan Keralan, Godha Keralan, Kerala Narayanan, Keralan Srikumaran etc are the various other personal names of Keralites as present in the Oldest Inscriptions of Kerala in Old Malayalam since the 9th century C.E as the Kerala-Country and its capital was under the dominion of the Naaduvaazhikal (i.e vallabhapattanam king, mahodhayapattanam king, kolambhapattanam king etc) as attested by native records and foreign travelers including Al-Biruni since the 11th century C.E : For Example: "Malabar (i.e Malayalam Country) is a great province lying towards the west 'of the province of Bandi (i.e Pandya)' and the people here have a language of their own and a king of their own and pay tribute to nobody." - Marco Polo (13th century C.E). : It is accepted by Tamil Nadu scholars that the Sanskrit term 'Chola' was written as 'SoRa' in the various Tamil inscriptions of the Chola-Dynasty and similarly, the 'Kerala' kings were referred to as 'SeRa' in the inscriptions of the Invaders from Tamil Nadu until the 12th century C.E as the term 'Sera or Seralan' in Tamil is the transliteration of 'Kerala' in Sanskrit whereas the term 'Pandi or Pandiyan' in Tamil is the transliteration of 'Pandya' in Sanskrit as the term 'Sora or Soran' in Tamil is the transliteration of 'Chola' in Sanskrit hence the land of Kerala was referred to as Cheraman-Nadu, Cheraman-Loka, Chera-Bhumi etc in Kerala records itself. : For Example: "...sarvam eve anupashyata tathaiva Andhran cha Pundran cha Cholan, Pandyan, Keralan." - Valmiki Ramayanam - Kishkindha Kanda : The 7th century to 12th century inscriptions of Tamil Nadu refers to multiple Pandya kings and Chola kings as having invaded the region of “Malainadu or Kerala” and the Tamil Nadu king Raja Raja Chola (985 C.E -1014 C.E) in his inscriptions on the conquest of Kerala claims that his army invaded the country which was the Creation Of Parashurama (Kerala) and plundered the town of Vizhinjam, Kollam, Kodungallur etc which itself shows that the land of Kerala was known as the Parashurama Kshetra (i.e creation of parashurama) among even the non-keralites in history. : The ancient European travelers of the 1st and 2nd century C.E have referred to the geographical region of North India or the land between Himalaya mountains and Vindhya mountains as 'Ariaca' after the Sanskrit word 'Aryaka' (i.e Aryadesha) whereas they referred to the geographical region of Kerala (i.e Keralaputhra) as 'Damirica' after the Sanskrit word 'Dramidaka' (i.e Dramidadesha) meaning the southernmost region of Bharata (i.e Indian subcontinent) hence the Oldest literary works and inscriptions of Kerala itself refers to the geographical region of Kerala as 'Dramida' in which the city of Mahodayapuram (i.e Makkothayarpattanam in Old Malayalam) or Thiruvanchikulam (i.e Srianjanakhalam in Sanskrit) or Muyirikodu (muziris) in Old Malayalam as situated on the banks of the river Periyar (i.e Mahanadhi, Choorni etc in Sanskrit) was the capital of the Kerala king titled as 'Keraladhinatha' in Sanskrit or 'Cherabhumishvara' in Malayalam (i.e Keralabhasha). : For Example: "Keralaanaam dramida shabdhavaachythvaad apabhramshena tadbhaasha tamizh ithyuchyathe" - Lilathilakam - Meaning - "The language of Kerala is known as Tamizh in the vernacular through the phonetic modification of the word Dramida." : The term 'Tamizhakam' in the Tamil grammar Tolkapiyam itself is the transliteration of 'Dramidaka' in Sanskrit and not denoting a single culture or language or kingdom or history but a common geographical region as consisting of KL and TN thereby the author has recognised 12 regional dialects in which 5 dialects are pertaining to Kerala and 7 dialects are pertaining to Tamil Nadu just as the Tamil grammar Nannul of the 13th century hence the Kerala records have also differentiated the language of Dramida (i.e Tamizh) into Pandyabhasha (pandi language), Cholabhasha (chola language) and Keralabhasha (malayalam language) in history. : The inscriptions of Kerala as dated between the 9th century C.E and 12th Century C.E is referred to as 'Old Malayalam' by linguists because the inscriptions of Kerala as dated between the 13th century C.E and 16th century C.E shows linguistic continuity with minimal differences hence it is termed as 'Middle Malayalam' by linguists.Malayalam language (i.e Keralabhasha) is just as old and classical as any other Dravidian languages including Tamil hence the phonology and vocabulary of Keralites to this very day are found in the Oldest mythological literary works and inscriptions of Tamil Nadu (ex. njan, njandu, thudangi, pettu, aliyan, achan etc) as the grammatical principles of Malayalam language (i.e Keralabhasha) was contrasting from the ‘Tamizh’ of the inhabitants of Tamil Nadu due to the phonological and morphological differences between the regional languages of the East and West of the Ghats mountain ranges since known history. (Ex. Njan in Malayalam is Nan in Tamil) : The terms 'Tamizh, Naazhi, Pazham, Pavizham, Makizham etc' in Old Malayalam are all derived from the Sanskrit words 'Dramida, Naadi, Phala, Pravala, Makula etc' as such phonetic modifications or transliterations of Sanskrit words are present in all the Dravidian languages since known literary history and similarly, the terms 'Ketala, Choda, Pada' etc in the Ashoka Edicts of the 3rd Century B.C in Prakrit language are the transliterations of the Sanskrit word 'Kerala, Chola, Pandya' etc as attested by all linguists today. : The terms Cherakon (i.e Keralakularaaja in Sanskrit), Kunnalakon (i.e Shailabdhishvara in Sanskrit), Valluvakon (i.e Vallabhakshoni in Sanskrit), Piraamanar (i.e Brahmana in Sanskrit) etc as found in Old Malayalam and Middle Malayalam inscriptions and literary works are NOT denoting the people of Tamil Nadu or 'Tamilans' irrespective of caste referred to as a 'Pandi, Chola, Konga, Thonda' in all of known Indian history but the people of Kerala referred to as 'Keralar' and 'Malayalar' alone in Indian history. : For Example: The kings of Kerala were referred to as 'Malayala Thiruvadi' in the inscription of South India as dated to the 13th Century C.E while the kings of Tamil Nadu were referred to as Pandya and Chola in the same inscription of the Kakatiya Dynasty of South India because the people of Tamil Nadu now known as 'Tamilans' were referred to as a 'Pandi, Chola, Konga, Thonda' in all of known Indian history including Kerala literary works until the 14th Century C.E while the people of Kerala including the Kings were referred to as 'Keralar' and 'Malayalar' alone in Indian history. : The region of modern Tamil Nadu as consisting of dharmapuri, salem, coimbatore etc as comprising of an earlier independent territorial unit known as ‘Kongu-Nadu’ were under their local chieftains referred to as 'Adiya or Adiyaman' until the 12th Century C.E in Indian history whereas it is the land of Kerala as comprising of the independent territorial unit known as ‘Malayalam’ or 'Malabar' who were under the local chieftains referred to as ‘Chera or Cheraman’ until the 12th century C.E in Indian history. : For Example: "The pagans (Hindus) of Malabar (Kerala) believes that a king (i.e a King of Kerala or Cheraman) had once ascended up to heaven and they continue to expect his descent therefore they assemble at cranganore (Kodungallur) and keep ready there wooden sandals, water and adorn the place with lamps and decorations on a certain night of the year" - Tuhfat al Mujahidin (16th Century C.E) : The Dravidian languages of Malayalam, Tamil, Tulu, Kannada, Telugu etc including the Tribal Languages (ex. Irula, Kurumba etc) as consisting of common/similar words are all emerging from a Proto-Dravidian language meaning an undocumented common spoken language in pre-history as attested by all linguists today hence there are places with common names in Kerala and Tamil Nadu even today (ex. Thondi, Musiri etc) thus it doesn't mean that the places of Kerala or 'Keralaputhra' referred to as Tyndis, Muziris etc by the travelers in the past were referring to the settlement of the people of Tamil Nadu or ‘Tamilans’ referred to as a 'Pandi, Chola, Konga, Thonda' in all of known Indian history including Kerala literary works until the 14th Century C.E but the people of Kerala referred to as ‘Keralar' and 'Malayalar' alone in Indian history. : For Example: “Among all the places in the world I have seen none equal to the Port of Alexandria except Kawlam (Kollam in Kerala) and Calicut (Kozhikodu in Kerala) in India” - Ibn Battuta (14th century C.E).
There never existed a 'Sangam Era'. The literary works as found from tamil nadu and sri lanka now called as 'sangam literature's' by modern scholars which refers to the kings and regions of Kerala (i.e Sera) are not historical documents but a collection of Hindu, Jain and Buddhist mythology as written in Tamil language between 8th century C.E and 13th century C.E. (ex. pattitrupattu, purananuru, agananuru, silapathikaram, manimegalai etc) For Example: 'Ilango Adikal' was the brother of 'Senguttuvan' and their father was 'Nedumseralathan', who is said to have conquered all of India until the Himalayas (i.e Imayamalai) and his father 'Uthiyanseralathan' is said to have fed the armies in the Mahabharata war.(ex. Paripadal). There existed no 'illango adikal, senguttuvan, nedumserlaathan, uthiyanseralaathan etc' in Kerala history during the period of Ptolemy, Pliny or Ashoka's time when the sovereign of Kerala was titled as 'Keralaputhra' in Sanskrit. (Ex.Kerobothros by Ptolemy or Keprobotros by the author of the Periplus or Kaelobothras in Pliny's text or Ketalaputho in the Ashoka Edicts of 3rd century B.C). The term 'Cheraman/Seraman' in Malayalam/Tamil literary history is the transliteration of 'Keralan' in Sanskrit. For Example: "...sarvam eve anupashyata tathaiva Andhran ca Pundran ca Cholan, Pandyan, Keralan." - Valmiki Ramayanam - Kishkindha Kanda (4-41-12) The terms 'Tamil, Damila, Dramida etc' as found in the Prakrit literary works and Dravidian literary works including Malayalam (i.e lilathilakam) are the transliteration of 'Dramila/Dravida' in Sanskrit meaning 'adjoining the seas' or the southernmost region of Bharatha (Indian subcontinent) adjoining the ocean as consisting of 'Kerala (chera), Chola (chozha), Pandya (pandi) kingdom' since known literary history hence the ancient Greek travelers/literature refers to the southernmost region of India (indica) as 'Damirica" and the sovereign of Kerala as 'Kerobothras' (i.e Keralaputhra) since antiquity. The terms ''sangam age' and 'kulashekhara empire' are often used by historians to create an 'historical time period' for the occurrence of the mythological events and kings as relating to the hindu, jain, buddhist mythology as written in Tamil language hence the 'Chera' aka Kerala Kings such as 'Rama Rajashekharan' and 'Sthanu Ravi Varma' in Kerala History are falsely assumed to be the 'Seraman perumal nayanar', a Hindu shaivite king and 'Kulashekhara Azhwar', a Hindu vaishnavite king' of Hindu mythology in Tamil. (i.e divya prabandham, periyapuranam) For Example: In the traditional Hindu mythology, The Chera aka Kerala king 'Maharaja Kulashekhara' was born on the banks of the river Periyar in Kerala to 'Maharaja Dridhavratha' more than 5000 years ago when the territory as ruled by the Chera aka Kerala king covered the largest portion of Dravidadesha (dravida region) including vast regions of modern Tamil Nadu. There are several pagodas in erode, coimbatore, thirunelveli etc or modern Tamil Nadu which were once within the territory of the Kerala aka Chera kings in history including kanyakumari district and the royal seat of the 'Keralaputhra' or 'Kerobothros' as per Ptolemy (2nd century C.E) was ‘Karoura’ hence the early historian William Logan (1841-1914) assumed that 'Karoura' of Ptolemy was maybe referring to 'Karur of Coimbatore district in TN' due to the similarity in the names but as per native historians it was the 'Karoor' village in Thrissur district of Kerala or 'Thrikariyoor' (karur) village of Ernakulam district in Kerala itself. For Example: 'Adiyarkku Nallar' of 12th century C.E in Tamil Nadu also identified in his work, the Kerala aka Chera capital 'Karur' with 'Thiruvanchikulam' (thrissur district) in Kerala Only. There never existed a 'Sangam Age'. The period of 8th century C.E - 13th century C.E or the period of Jaina influence in Tamil Nadu was when the 'sangam' literature's and grammars were written for Tamil (i.e tholkapiyam) as per several historians whereas the oldest Kannada literature is dated to the 9th century C.E , and the oldest Telugu literature is dated to the 11th century C.E, and the oldest Malayalam literature is dated to the 14th century C.E.
The earliest definitive reference to Malayalam as a separate geolinguistic entity is noted by Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521) quote: “In this land of Malabar (i.e Malayalam Country), all men use one tongue only which they call Maliama” (i.e Malayalam). There is even an incomplete Old Malayalam literary work called ‘Payyannurppaattu’ as dated to pre-14th century C.E by historians but even this Old Malayalam composition of the Vaniyas or the merchants with little or no Sanskrit derived words does not resemble the language of Tamil Nadu. For Example: Naalarkudikku chernnore kondaar annaattil pattina svami makkal thozharpathinaaluvankiriyam tholpippaanilla innaattil aarum kaalepidichizhakkilum njaan kachilpattil vannennikkannurangen - Old Malayalam - Payyannurppaattu (pre-14th century C.E) Malayalam language (i.e Kerala-Bhasha) is also referred to as ‘Tamizh’ meaning the language of Dramida (i.e Dramidaka) in our Kerala literary works itself but the language of Kerala (i.e Malayalam Country) was grammatically contrasting from the ‘Tamizh’ of the Pandya-Country and Chola-Country or Tamil Nadu due to the phonological and morphological differences between the regional languages of the East and West of the Ghats mountain ranges since known history.
If there was not namboodri, malayalam language will seem exactly to srilankan Tamil Similarities Srilankan tamil and malayalam Pinnai(later,after), paraithal(talk), pandaiya ( once upon) monei,molei (son,daughter) and you can find a lot of words unique in both languages So malayalis are Tamil. I can understand 90% when someone speak malayalam even i have never been in kerala
Most of the Malayali population do not know or do not believe their Tamil origin. The major reason is that they are not taught the correct history in school. History of Kerala and history of Malayalam Language is falsified with plenty of wrong informations. According to the historians from Kerala and as per their records, the history of Kerala starts from around 9th - 10th century AD. The history of Malayalam language starts from around 13th - 14th century AD. Anything before that period is a mystery to the Malayali population. No one knows who lived in Kerala before 10th century and what language they spoke. It is so surprising to see that one of the highly literate state is doing so poor when it comes to their own history. The funniest part is that, some people still argue that Malayalam is a sister language to Tamil and both came from a common ancestor not realising which language was the mother of Malayalam. Also, no one knows the history of Chera people who were the actual ancestors of entire Kerala population (excluding the migrants).
@Prophet Bomb Let me explain how they were deprived of their own history. Below are the things Malayalis are not taught or completely not aware of, even though these are are all very much part of their ancient past. 👍👍😊😊 They were made to believe that the mother of the Malayalam language was some prototype ancient language instead of Tamil - There are multiple claims that Malayalam evolved from a proto-dravidian language. But, no one realises that the proto-dravidian language itself was ancient Tamil. 😊😊 I see many claims from some of the Malayali friends that the old Tamil and the middle Tamil and the Modern Tamil are very different. Just for all of your info, Tamil is still following the same grammar which was defined during the first millennium BC. There is no diversion here. 😊😊 It is still the same language unchanged grammatically. There could be new words added during the modern era due to the modern usage. But, still the old word is used. 😊😊 The Sangam literature and the Pre-Sangam period grammar is still relevant and that is the core even today. So there is no question of old, middle or new. It’s just the continuation of the same language for the last three millenniums 😊😊 They are not aware about, into which language Sanskrit words were added desperately and that created Malayalam language - As per Kerala's recorded history, Malayalam was born From the Manipravalam form. At least everyone in Kerala agrees to this. 👍👍👍 Now, let’s see what is Manipravalam? Manipravalam മണിപ്രവാളം/ மணிப்ரவாளம் / மணிஇடைபவழம் நடை was a literary style used in medieval liturgical texts in ancient Thamizhagam. 👍👍 All must note here that Only when Tamil and Sanskrit is mixed, Manipravalam style of literature is born. not anything else. Mani-pravalam literally means ruby-coral, where Mani means ruby in Sanskrit while Pravalam means Coral in Tamil. Sanskrit is referred to as ruby and Tamil as coral. 😊😊 Now, you can do the simple math yourself and find out sanskrit got mixed with which language? So, it clearly suggests that Tamil was language which got mixed with Sanskrit, thus creating Malayalam. 👍👍 They are not at all aware what was the early native language’s grammar structure before Sanskritization - One must remember that any non-sanskrit words in Malayalam have their own grammar which has been followed in Tamil for centuries even before Sanskit was developed as an advanced language. 😊😊 For an example we have a word called “Noottaandugal”/ നൂറ്റാണ്ടുകൾ / நூற்றாண்டுகள் . When Nooru + aandugal joins together, the word Noottaandugal is derived. As per Tamil grammar there are three rules/formulas applied when adding the two words Nooru + aandugal and to convert into Noottaandugal as one single word. This was defined in Tamil well before Sanskit came to Kerala. 😊😊 So, is it possible to find the root words from Malayalam’s perspective for the Malayalam word “Iruunnalledathu”/ ഇരുന്നള്ളേടത്തു ? I am sure with Tamil grammar, we can still break this word in to the actual root words and we can say what rule can be applied and how this can be formed into one single word. Give it a try. 👍👍 Not aware of the glorious Sangam period literature (From 300 BC to 300 AD) and not taught about any of the kerala’s ancient Chera author’s literary works - Sangam literature talks about ancient Kerala (Chera Nadu) and recorded the life of ancient Chera people and their lives in many of its works. No one is aware of that. And it is surprising to see that some people claiming that Sangam literature never existed. 👍👍 This makes me laugh sometimes, because these are the people who cant believe the hundreds of ancient songs mentioning ancient kerala in detail and at the same time these are the people who tell others that Kerala was created by throwing an Axe. 😊😊😊 Not taught about the ancient Chera Tamil Landscapes - The entire Chera country (Today’s Kerala) was classified into “Thinnai”s according to the Sangam period Tamil landscapes (Kurinji, Mullai, Marudham, Neidhal, Palai). Even today, we can see that In Kerala, many places named after the ancient Tamil Landscapes. 😊😊😊 I don't think anyone has any idea about this either. Not aware why the ancient temples and ancient villages, Towns, Cities are starting with the Tamil honorific prefix “Thiru” and also Not aware why the names of ancient villages, Towns, Cities ending with “Oor” or “Peroor”- Just for an example, Thrissur - Thrissur's Old name was “Thiru Siva Peroor”. (Peroor means Periya + oor in Tamil). 👍👍 No one uses Periya in Malayalalam. Instead they use Valliya. If Periya is not a word in Malayalam, then how did Thrissur, the cultural city of Kerala got the Tamil name Periya Oor? Also, Thiru is used extensively in almost all ancient places with ancient Temples. 😊😊😊 So, this means that Kerala’s ancient past was Tamil and all the places in Kerala before tenth century were named as per Tamil prefixes and suffixes. 😊😊 Not aware of the ancient Tamil-Brahmi scripts even though many ancient artefacts found from Kerala were written in Tamil-Brahmi - I see that many from Kerala claim that the Brahmi letters came from north to South and also, they do not accept the fact that the ancient Brahmi letters found in Kerala were Tamil. 👍👍👍 I would like to pinpoint something here. From the Adichanallur archeology sites, archeologists unearthed many pots with Tamil-Brahmi letters in it. They belong to 500 BC which is roughly 200 years before Ashoka’s edicts. So, and the first one to introduce the Brahmi letters in India were Tamils. 😊😊 Please see, Newly discovered Brahmi inscription decipheredNot aware of Kerala's ancient Buddhism and Jainism past - The entire Kerala was a Buddhist country 2000 years back and the Jains and the buddhists lived side by side. 😊😊 As per the current corrupt historians of Kerala, the History of Kerala starts only after 10th century, hence, there is no way that Malayalis will come to know about their Buddhist past and their Jain past. 😊😊 (for all the people who deny their actual history, please check who was Karumadi Kuttan in kerala’s history and how did he ended up in the nearby stream and who damaged him and threw him there thousand years back. 👍👍👍 Check the following links for your reference.Karumadikkuttan - Wikipedia , Jainism in Kerala - Wikipedia , Neelamperoor Palli Bhagavathi Temple - Wikipedia . There are so many proofs in kerala. Anyone can do their own simple research to find out more.Not aware of ancient Epics originated in Kerala 2000 years back- There were so many sangam period songs written in Tamil which talks about Kerala’s ancient past. None of that is taught to the Malayali younger generations. 👍👍👍 Also, no historians is interested in looking at it as they firmly believes that the Kerala’s history starts only after 10th century AD. 😊😊 Not knowing who Kannagi was. Even though Kodungallur temple and Attukal temples are dedicated to Kannagi and not aware why Chilambu is so sacred in Kerala tradition - Kannagi is a Tamil women who lived 2000 years back and she is the central character of the Tamil epic Chilapathikaram / Silapathikaram which was written in Kerala by a Cheran author Illango adigal. 😊😊😊 She has been considered as a god in the Tamil country for the past 2000 years. As kerala was a Tamil buddhist country at that time, she was elevated to a goddess status in buddhism and kerala buddhist people started worshipping her. This has spread into the nearby buddhist country Srilanka and Srilankan buddhists also started worshiping Kannagi as Pattini Devi. 👍👍The Sirlankan Tamils worship her as Kannagi Amman. The Tamils from Tamilnadu has many temples for Kannagi and she is worshipped even today as Amman. (The Amman with chilambu in hand). 😊😊 Malayalis worship her as Kodungallur Bagavathy and Aattukal Devi. Also, kannagi’s Chilambu is so sacred in many temples in kerala. 😊😊😊 The Velichappadu concept and the Bharani celebrations are all for Kannagi only. But, unfortunately the Kerala historians had other plans and Kannagi is not known in kerala history after 10th century AD. Her name has been changed post that. 😊😊 All the above points are not to criticise the Malayali community as a whole for not knowing their history. It is just to create an awareness and to point out that how ill informed they are about their own history. 😊😊😊 I see my Malayali brothers as the Jack Nicholson’s of India who were cheated by their own kings and Rulers and historians for more than 8 centuries now. 😊😊 So, to answer this question once again, Not knowing their Tamil origin is not their mistake. 😊😊 Blacking out Kerala’s history was a well planned conspiracy plotted by the migrants who came to Kerala and started ruling the country independently from the end of 12th century onwards.
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Malayalam is an independent language and it's evolved old tamil(not modern tamil, the tamil used in tholkkapiyam and sangam literature) or proto dravidian language. Malayalam is considered as 4th oldest language after Tamil, Sanskrit and Kannada and also considered as sister language of modern tamil. There are inscriptions in malayalam dated back B.C 5 and kerala was mentioned in a stone inscription dated BC. 300. Whatever it's evolved from tamil or not, malayalam has high anquity and a huge literature collection.
Kerala was part of tamilakam so before malayalam existed the people there obviously would have spoken tamil so there is no point in arguing over malayalam tamil origin ur ancestors were tamilan at one stage
@@soundcheck2k7 ആധിപത്യ അധികാര മനോഭാവം ഉള്ള സംസ്കൃത പക്ഷവാതി , ഏകദേശം പൊതു വർഷം 14 - ആം നൂറ്റാണ്ടുകളിൽ എഴുതിയ ലീലാ തിലകമണിപ്രവാള ലക്ഷണക്രന്ഥത്തിൽ , കൃത്രിമ ഭാഷയായ സംസ്കൃതം ഉയർന്ന ഭാഷ എന്നും നാട്ട് ഭാഷയായ പൂർവികരുടെ മലനാട്ട് തമിഴും സംസ്കൃതവും കലർന്ന മിശ്ര ഭാഷയേ നിന്ദ്യമായ ഭാഷ എന്ന് കെണി ഒരുക്കി മസ്തിഷ്ക ക്ഷാളനം ചെയ്തത് മനസ്സിലാക്കാൻ കഴിയാത്തത് കൊണ്ടാണ് മലയാളി തൻ്റെ ഭാഷയായ മലയാളത്തേ അഭഹർഷാബോധം അവജ്ഞ പുച്ഛത്തോടെ നോക്കി കാണുന്നത് . മലയാളം , ഒരു ഭാഷയായി M.A , Ph.d എടുത്തു പഠിക്കുന്നവർക്ക് ഈവക കാര്യങ്ങൾ എല്ലാം അറിയാം .
Malayalam is a language evolved in the late 9th century and it is a compilation of tamil and Sanskrit as the famous tamil literature silapathigaram is written by the Cheran prince ilangovadigal and the cheras are tamil kings who ruled kerala that times
1. The oldest Malayalam inscription is Edakkal-5 is found from Edakkal caves which is atleast 2000 years old....malayalam and tamil are evolved from a common language ... German scholar Herman gundert said that malayalam is the most beautiful and technically parfect language than others ... in tamil they cannot pronounce and write "ZH" ... malayalam can write and speak any sound in the world ....
Around 1oth century CE, Sanskrit and *Ancient Kerala Bhasha(old malayalam) (thats what I would call that language which is not Tamil)* were the popular languages in Kerala. Nambudiris shunned “Kerala Bhasha”, and Sanskrit was the only elite language in Kerala. Even before proper Malayalam works emerged in Kerala, Sanskrit works and scholars could be found in Kerala. Around 12th century CE, Islam rule started in North India, whereby Persian started its impact on Apabhramsha-evolved languages like Khariboli. By 13th century CE, Amir Khusrow had started to write in a language what we can consider the initial form of Hindustani. (Almost intelligible) At the same time, in Kerala, the non Sanskritic literature began propping up, and the non Tamil “Kerala Bhasha” began gaining popularity, with considerable Sanskritic vocabulary. By 12th century CE, the Ramacharitam, the first work in “ancient” Malayalam came to existence. The coming century saw the development of Sanskrit and Kerala Bhasha in parallel. By 14th century, Kerala Nambudiris relaxed a bit on the language issue. Being the integral part of literary culture of Kerala, Nambudiris started to write in a beautiful literary mix language, called Manipravalam, which was perfect mix (both lexical and grammatical) of Sanskrit and Kerala Bhasha. At the same time, in North India, elites began borrowing Persian vocabulary into the language, though it was not as homogeneous mix as Manipravalam. The Manipravalam was a purely literary language, specifically made for the literary enjoyment through pun words, prosody and rhyme, which enriched both the Kerala Bhasha and Sanskrit. However, the Persian influence on Hindi was full lexical, it had no influence on grammar. By 16th century, modern Malayalam had originated and deviated from both Manipravalam and Sanskrit. Ezhuthachan is regarded as the Father of modern Malayalam. His most famous work, Adhyatmaramayanam, is written in a language that is perfectly intelligible with modern Malayalam, except for certain extra uses of pure Sanskrit grammatical forms like “vidhau”, “tadA”, “manasi”, “aham”, “tvam”… Still, those forms are allowed in today’s literary Malayalam too, and Ezhuthachan’s language is perfectly intelligible. Still, Sanskrit and Manipravalam were used, and so was the colloquial Kerala language used among the tribes away from the civilizations. However, modern Hindi did not originate even in 16th century CE. By the Mughal period, the Khariboli, Dehlavi all were emerging distinct due to Persian influence. Instead of Hindi, Urdu was being created. At the time when modern Malayalam was born and was gaining stability, Zaban-e-Urdu was to take its birth in the camps of Mughals. Dehlavi came to be developing to what can be called as Hindustani. By 18th century CE, several upper caste poets themselves began to empathize in Kerala, and began homogenizing the language, from the confusion of where to use Sanskrit and where colloquial words / grammar are more suitable, in the language. Malayalam was made stable in this era. Modern Malayalam emerged stable in this period.
It is not correct to say Malayalam was derived from Tamil or from any other languages. Most historians are of the view that all the present Dravidian languages evolved from a single Dravidian language which was spoken all over Tamizhakam (the name used by South Indian historians - mostly Tamil - to indicate the peninsular India of Sangam period). Regional dialects of this language led to the evolution of all Dravidian languages. And many argue that Tamil would have evolved earlier than Malayalam but one cannot completely agree because the western coast had predominance in internal and external trade. Hence it is possible that Malayalam could have had an evolution much earlier than it is believed to be. Anyway the peception that Malayalam evolved from Tamil is now proven completely wrong. This would be like Hindu chauvinist historians telling Sanskrit as the mother of all Indian languages.
arfaz habeeb u say tamilagam.tamil agam means inside coverd land by tamil language. IS NOT any dravidan language. Tamil Sangam literature written by tamil language.TAMIL this word used by ettuthogai/patthupattu.TAMIL speaking land called Tamil agam.(tamil nadu+now a day kerela). Tamils are mention about Aryans.in Tamil sangam literature. Aryans also mentioned Tamils in the name of dravida. Tamil-tamul-dramul-dramut-dravid. Athi sankara called Thiru g(n)anasampanthar "dravida sisu" he is a one of the "nayanmar "famous Tamil saviest poet.in bakthi moment period. vainava Aachariya Ramanujar called (Tamil vaisnava poems 4000 divya prapantham )-'Dravida veda". sung by Tamil vaisnav poets "Alwargal", These 2 aachariya sankara ,ramanuja are bramins.they wrote their phylosype in sanskrit.and they mention tamil poets /poems in the name of "dravida",but both of saivest/vaisnavist poems direct use " tamil" the word comes many songs.but sanskrit scholars called tamil dravida.Tamil also called them Aryans
arfaz habeeb western coast trade.1.Tamil sangam means Tamil acadamic period.that time ty grow up Tamil language.its 3sangam(academic) period.we got the 3rd sangam tamil poems.first second sangam tamil poems were lost.
arfaz habeeb simple qn?Tamil sangam literature written by which language? 2.who are understand/read tamil sangam literature Tamil or malayalee? 3.Is Tamil sangam literature mention Tamil or malayalam in that literature? 4 .IS Tamil sangam literature follwing Tholkappiyam tamil grammer?or u r telling single dravidan language grammer? or malayalam/kannad grammer? 5.Cera kings one of the Tamil king Among with chola,pandiyas.
arfaz habeeb tamil sangam period the language " Tamil"தமிழ், தமிழ், தமிழ்.only. When outsiders occupay that land தமிழ் language changed . But thatcase Tamil nadu lot of outsider occupay but language was protect .Tamil sangam period after Sangam maruviya kalam after Kappiya kalam After Samaya kuravargal kalam(bakthi moment period) After later chola period Raja Raja chola period After Telugu spaking vijaya/nayakar and maratha period After British period Bharathi Maramalai adigal started pure tamil moment After periyar,Arinar anna period
+Kathir Velan கதிர் வேலன் true. no one knows where the dravida languages arose from. But before it was called malayalam, the dravida language was surely called tamil. though it was spoken different from tamil we speak today, its still tamil. all languages evolve.
Malayalam didn't originate from Sanskrit and Old Tamil. It is actually an ancient language spoken in Kerala since ancient times. It is true that Malayalam borrowed lots of words from Sanskrit. So do other languages. Tamil used to have lots of Sanskrit words until many of them were eliminated thanks to Pure Tamil Movement with the help of Tamil Scholars. David Dean Schulman points out that there has been a wrong tendency among historical linguists to think that Malayalam was diverged directly from Tamil. “There has been a tendency among historical linguists to think of Malayalam as having diverged directly from Tamil (the Tamil is spoken from the ancient times in what is today Kerala), perhaps as late as the thirteenth century. But this view is almost certainly wrong. Tamil and Malayalam must have separated from one another at a much earlier stage perhaps around the first millennium AD, as we can see from the several surviving archaic features of Malayalam." David Dean Shulman, author of Tamil (page 6) - A Biography, The Belkman's Press of Harvard University Press, 2016. "The preservation of many early linguistic features in Malayalam and the altered reflections of those features in Tamil point to the differentiation between the East coast (Tamil area) and the West coast (Malayalam area)” - A. Govindankutty Menon (the author of “From Proto-Tamil-Malayalam to West Coast Dialects”). Historically speaking, Malayalam (also known as Malabar language) was the only language of Old Malabar. In 15th century and 16th century, Malabar (also known as Old Malabar) refers to the region from Kumbla (located 11 Km north of Kasargod, a town in Today’s Kerala) to Cape Comorin (Kanyakumari which is now in Today’s Tamil Nadu). Portuguese Explorer and Writer Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521) points out that the land of Malabar begins from the place called Cumbola (Kumbla) and it ends at Cape of Comorin (Kanyakumari) and all men use one tongue only which they call “Maliama” (that is Malayalam). Malayazhma and Malayayma are variants of Malayalam. (Book “The Book of Duarte Barbosa: An Account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, written by Duarte Barbosa and completed about the Year 1518 A.D.” by Mansel Longworth Dames, Vol. 2, Pg. 1-7). Marco Polo (who lived in 13th century and early 14th century) also points out that Melibar (or Malabar) is a great kingdom lying towards the west. The people are Idolaters; they have a language of their own, and a king of their own, and pay tribute to nobody (The Travels of Marco Polo, Book 3, Chapter 25). During the time of Portuguese Explorer and Writer Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521),Tamil was spoken in the kingdom of Narsyngua. Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521) points out that the Kingdom of Narsyngua (The extensive Hindu Kingdom of Vijayanagar was known to Portuguese as Narsinga from the name of ruling Raja at the time of Vasco Da Gama’s first arrival in India. His name was Narasinha or Narsingha.) is so great that it had five vast provinces, each with its own language. The first of these extends along the coast as far as Malabar, and this they call Tolinate (Tulu-nada), another in the back-country behind it, which they call Danseam Rayen. The next which marches with the kingdom of Narsyngua proper, is called Telingu (Telugu); then the city of Bisnaga (Vijayanagar) itself, which they call Canarim (Kannada), and the kingdom of Charamandel (Coromandel), where the language is Tamul (Tamil). (Book “The Book of Duarte Barbosa: An Account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, written by Duarte Barbosa and completed about the Year 1518 A.D.” by Mansel Longworth Dames, Vol. 1, Pg. 182-184). The region of Today's Kerala in ancient times was known to Arab travellers and Marco Polo as Malabar (also written as Melibar) which was from Kumbla to Kanyakumari. Arab travelers and Marco Polo called Coromandel Coast (where Tamil was spoken) as "Ma'abar." I believe this was mentioned in Books “The Book of Duarte Barbosa: An Account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, written by Duarte Barbosa and completed about the Year 1518 A.D.” by Mansel Longworth Dames, Vol. 1 to 2. Many historians falsely assumed that Ma'abar was actually referring to Malabar. This gave people the wrong impression the chera tamil people lived in Kerala during ancient times. From what I researched, Sangham literature is actually associated with region of Ma'abar. Chera tamil people ruled the region of Coromandel Coast (also known as Ma'abar among foreigners).
*Vattezhuthu, kolezhuthu...* *வட்டெழுத்து, கோலெழுத்து...* *വട്ടെഴുത്ത്, കോലെഴുത്ത്...* *If Tamil people ask how malayalam born, they say it born form Sanskrit...* *Same thing if Hindi people ask means, they say it born from Tamil...* I want to know which language was spoken in Kerala nadu before 10 centuries back... and what was their writing system... say something like Vattezhuthu, kolezhuthu... வட்டெழுத்து, கோலெழுத்து... വട്ടെഴുത്ത്, കോലെഴുത്ത്... The above writing itself resembles that the word is a pakka Tamil script... then how come u people says that there is a language that is Proto-Malayalam... how it come Please Explain!!!! *வாழ்க தமிழ்* 🔥
@@Truthholder345 Their concept is every language in the world came from Tamil. Not just Malayalam. You can ignore them. Malayalam didn't originate from Sanskrit and Tamil. It is actually an ancient language spoken in Kerala since ancient times. David Dean Schulman points out that there has been a wrong tendency among historical linguists to think that Malayalam was diverged directly from Tamil. “There has been a tendency among historical linguists to think of Malayalam as having diverged directly from Tamil (the Tamil is spoken from the ancient times in what is today Kerala), perhaps as late as the thirteenth century. But this view is almost certainly wrong. Tamil and Malayalam must have separated from one another at a much earlier stage perhaps around the first millennium AD, as we can see from the several archaic features of Malayalam." David Dean Shulman, author of Tamil - A Biography, The Belkman's Press of Harvard University Press, 2016. "The preservation of many early linguistic features in Malayalam and the altered reflections of those features in Tamil point to the differentiation between the East coast (Tamil area) and the West coast (Malayalam area)” - A. Govindankutty Menon (the author of “From Proto-Tamil-Malayalam to West Coast Dialects”). Historically speaking, Malayalam (also known as Malabar language) was the only language of Old Malabar. In 15th century and 16th century, Malabar (also known as Old Malabar) refers to the region from Kumbla (located 11 Km north of Kasargod, a town in Today’s Kerala) to Cape Comorin (Kanyakumari which is now in Today’s Tamil Nadu). Portuguese Explorer and Writer Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521) points out that the land of Malabar begins from the place called Cumbola (Kumbla) and it ends at Cape of Comorin (Kanyakumari) and all men use one tongue only which they call “Maliama” (that is Malayalam). Malayazhma and Malayayma are variants of Malayalam. (Book “The Book of Duarte Barbosa: An Account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, written by Duarte Barbosa and completed about the Year 1518 A.D.” by Mansel Longworth Dames, Vol. 2, Pg. 1-7).
@@Truthholder345 Thank you. I thought I should share this with you as well. The region of Today's Kerala in ancient times was known to Arab travellers and Marco Polo as Malabar (also written as Melibar) which was from Kumbla to Kanyakumari. Arab travelers and Marco Polo called Coromandel Coast (where Tamil was spoken) as "Ma'abar." I believe this was mentioned in Books “The Book of Duarte Barbosa: An Account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, written by Duarte Barbosa and completed about the Year 1518 A.D.” by Mansel Longworth Dames, Vol. 1 to 2. Many historians falsely assumed that Ma'abar was actually referring to Malabar. This gave people the wrong impression the chera tamil people lived in Kerala during ancient times. From what I researched, Sangham literature is actually associated with region of Ma'abar. Chera tamil people ruled the region of Coromandel Coast (also known as Ma'abar among foreigners). The claim that Malayalam came out of Old Tamil doesn't make any sense due to the fact that Malayalam's grammatical structure is very different from Tamil. As you know, Malayalam lacks subject verb agreement(s) while Tamil strictly requires subject verb agreement(s) during conjugation. In Old Tamil, there were only two tenses (Past tense and Non Past tense). So Old Tamil didn't have Future tense and Present tense independently. With Malayalam (since ancient times), there are "at least" 4 forms of present tenses. On the top of that, Malayalam used Past tense and Future tense since ancient times.
No one could ignore I have searched in Wikipedia and I found Malayalam cannot function without tamil and it could not be a classical language as it could not function on its own
abdur rahman you also cannot ignore the fact that malayalam cannot function without sanskrit. in the same wikipedia its proven with facts that 80% malayalam vocabulary is sanskrit.
malayalam and tamil is born from a common language ... The oldest Malayalam inscription is Edakkal-5 is found from Edakkal caves which is atleast 2000 years old.... we can see english words in malayalam .. so we can't say malayalam is from english ... it is applicable in the case of tamil words in malayalam
According to Harvard only classical languages are allowed to have a chair but atleast it should meet 8 requirements but tamil is the only language to meet all 11 requirements making it the largest Indian language spoken all over the world and the oldest language
Most of the Malayali population do not know or do not believe their Tamil origin. The major reason is that they are not taught the correct history in school. 😊😊 History of Kerala and history of Malayalam Language is falsified with plenty of wrong informations. 😊😊 According to the historians from Kerala and as per their records, the history of Kerala starts from around 9th - 10th century AD. 😊😊 The history of Malayalam language starts from around 13th - 14th century AD. Anything before that period is a mystery to the Malayali population. 😊😊 No one knows who lived in Kerala before 10th century and what language they spoke. It is so surprising to see that one of the highly literate state is doing so poor when it comes to their own history. 😊😊 The funniest part is that, some people still argue that Malayalam is a sister language to Tamil and both came from a common ancestor not realising which language was the mother of Malayalam. 😊😊 Also, no one knows the history of Chera people who were the actual ancestors of entire Kerala population (excluding the migrants).
Well said Mr.Sabareesan. The original malayalam is called Pacha Malayalam. The words in pacha malayalam is exactly the old tamil words. If any malayalee is speaking pacha malayalam, a Tamil can understand it clearly. But tha sad part is, malayalees are moving away from pacha malayalam and sanskritising their language. Even though their is a proper malayalam word, they still using sanskrit word. They don't want to know their history before 10th century also. The most rational people in India avoiding talking their ancestor before 10th century ia really a paradox.
Do u know what Onam is celebrated for.. And how old Onam is... It is 12000 yrs old when king Bali ruled entire earth..so Malayalam ia that old. So after Sanskrit Malayalam is the oldest and then tamil
You tamilains keep on boasting abt ur language...... but don't try to dominate it over us....we are not that stupid to understand ur theory of global language tamil.........can u spell zha of pazham.....sha of asha......ur first script written by agastya muni......whom u call as agathiar is actually a sanskrit word which means fire.....u can't even spell the name of ur first poet.......even then u want malayalam to be a copy paste of tamil......hats off.....
@@sreelakshmi7476 we dominate u stupid 😀😀 we can & are using zha ழ in tamil. zha is beauty of tamil., same in malayalam ഴ derived from tamil😂😂 ழ -ഴ .. Thamizh கோழி கோடு Malayalam കോഴി കോടു Sha ,ASha we don't need these sanskrit letter's we are using independent thamizh Grammar.. what did you said we can't read first script 😀😀 old inscription were vattezhuthu we can read💪💪 ...We have literature do you have any literature in malayalam ?? 3rd century ??
@@sreelakshmi7476 Let me explain how they were deprived of their own history. Below are the things Malayalis are not taught or completely not aware of, even though these are are all very much part of their ancient past. 👍👍😊😊 They were made to believe that the mother of the Malayalam language was some prototype ancient language instead of Tamil - There are multiple claims that Malayalam evolved from a proto-dravidian language. But, no one realises that the proto-dravidian language itself was ancient Tamil. 😊😊 I see many claims from some of the Malayali friends that the old Tamil and the middle Tamil and the Modern Tamil are very different. Just for all of your info, Tamil is still following the same grammar which was defined during the first millennium BC. There is no diversion here. 😊😊 It is still the same language unchanged grammatically. There could be new words added during the modern era due to the modern usage. But, still the old word is used. 😊😊 The Sangam literature and the Pre-Sangam period grammar is still relevant and that is the core even today. So there is no question of old, middle or new. It’s just the continuation of the same language for the last three millenniums 😊😊 They are not aware about, into which language Sanskrit words were added desperately and that created Malayalam language - As per Kerala's recorded history, Malayalam was born From the Manipravalam form. At least everyone in Kerala agrees to this. 👍👍👍 Now, let’s see what is Manipravalam? Manipravalam മണിപ്രവാളം/ மணிப்ரவாளம் / மணிஇடைபவழம் நடை was a literary style used in medieval liturgical texts in ancient Thamizhagam. 👍👍 All must note here that Only when Tamil and Sanskrit is mixed, Manipravalam style of literature is born. not anything else. Mani-pravalam literally means ruby-coral, where Mani means ruby in Sanskrit while Pravalam means Coral in Tamil. Sanskrit is referred to as ruby and Tamil as coral. 😊😊 Now, you can do the simple math yourself and find out sanskrit got mixed with which language? So, it clearly suggests that Tamil was language which got mixed with Sanskrit, thus creating Malayalam. 👍👍 They are not at all aware what was the early native language’s grammar structure before Sanskritization - One must remember that any non-sanskrit words in Malayalam have their own grammar which has been followed in Tamil for centuries even before Sanskit was developed as an advanced language. 😊😊 For an example we have a word called “Noottaandugal”/ നൂറ്റാണ്ടുകൾ / நூற்றாண்டுகள் . When Nooru + aandugal joins together, the word Noottaandugal is derived. As per Tamil grammar there are three rules/formulas applied when adding the two words Nooru + aandugal and to convert into Noottaandugal as one single word. This was defined in Tamil well before Sanskit came to Kerala. 😊😊 So, is it possible to find the root words from Malayalam’s perspective for the Malayalam word “Iruunnalledathu”/ ഇരുന്നള്ളേടത്തു ? I am sure with Tamil grammar, we can still break this word in to the actual root words and we can say what rule can be applied and how this can be formed into one single word. Give it a try. 👍👍 Not aware of the glorious Sangam period literature (From 300 BC to 300 AD) and not taught about any of the kerala’s ancient Chera author’s literary works - Sangam literature talks about ancient Kerala (Chera Nadu) and recorded the life of ancient Chera people and their lives in many of its works. No one is aware of that. And it is surprising to see that some people claiming that Sangam literature never existed. 👍👍 This makes me laugh sometimes, because these are the people who cant believe the hundreds of ancient songs mentioning ancient kerala in detail and at the same time these are the people who tell others that Kerala was created by throwing an Axe. 😊😊😊 Not taught about the ancient Chera Tamil Landscapes - The entire Chera country (Today’s Kerala) was classified into “Thinnai”s according to the Sangam period Tamil landscapes (Kurinji, Mullai, Marudham, Neidhal, Palai). Even today, we can see that In Kerala, many places named after the ancient Tamil Landscapes. 😊😊😊 I don't think anyone has any idea about this either. Not aware why the ancient temples and ancient villages, Towns, Cities are starting with the Tamil honorific prefix “Thiru” and also Not aware why the names of ancient villages, Towns, Cities ending with “Oor” or “Peroor”- Just for an example, Thrissur - Thrissur's Old name was “Thiru Siva Peroor”. (Peroor means Periya + oor in Tamil). 👍👍 No one uses Periya in Malayalalam. Instead they use Valliya. If Periya is not a word in Malayalam, then how did Thrissur, the cultural city of Kerala got the Tamil name Periya Oor? Also, Thiru is used extensively in almost all ancient places with ancient Temples. 😊😊😊 So, this means that Kerala’s ancient past was Tamil and all the places in Kerala before tenth century were named as per Tamil prefixes and suffixes. 😊😊 Not aware of the ancient Tamil-Brahmi scripts even though many ancient artefacts found from Kerala were written in Tamil-Brahmi - I see that many from Kerala claim that the Brahmi letters came from north to South and also, they do not accept the fact that the ancient Brahmi letters found in Kerala were Tamil. 👍👍👍 I would like to pinpoint something here. From the Adichanallur archeology sites, archeologists unearthed many pots with Tamil-Brahmi letters in it. They belong to 500 BC which is roughly 200 years before Ashoka’s edicts. So, and the first one to introduce the Brahmi letters in India were Tamils. 😊😊 Please see, Newly discovered Brahmi inscription decipheredNot aware of Kerala's ancient Buddhism and Jainism past - The entire Kerala was a Buddhist country 2000 years back and the Jains and the buddhists lived side by side. 😊😊 As per the current corrupt historians of Kerala, the History of Kerala starts only after 10th century, hence, there is no way that Malayalis will come to know about their Buddhist past and their Jain past. 😊😊 (for all the people who deny their actual history, please check who was Karumadi Kuttan in kerala’s history and how did he ended up in the nearby stream and who damaged him and threw him there thousand years back. 👍👍👍 Check the following links for your reference.Karumadikkuttan - Wikipedia , Jainism in Kerala - Wikipedia , Neelamperoor Palli Bhagavathi Temple - Wikipedia . There are so many proofs in kerala. Anyone can do their own simple research to find out more.Not aware of ancient Epics originated in Kerala 2000 years back- There were so many sangam period songs written in Tamil which talks about Kerala’s ancient past. None of that is taught to the Malayali younger generations. 👍👍👍 Also, no historians is interested in looking at it as they firmly believes that the Kerala’s history starts only after 10th century AD. 😊😊 Not knowing who Kannagi was. Even though Kodungallur temple and Attukal temples are dedicated to Kannagi and not aware why Chilambu is so sacred in Kerala tradition - Kannagi is a Tamil women who lived 2000 years back and she is the central character of the Tamil epic Chilapathikaram / Silapathikaram which was written in Kerala by a Cheran author Illango adigal. 😊😊😊 She has been considered as a god in the Tamil country for the past 2000 years. As kerala was a Tamil buddhist country at that time, she was elevated to a goddess status in buddhism and kerala buddhist people started worshipping her. This has spread into the nearby buddhist country Srilanka and Srilankan buddhists also started worshiping Kannagi as Pattini Devi. 👍👍The Sirlankan Tamils worship her as Kannagi Amman. The Tamils from Tamilnadu has many temples for Kannagi and she is worshipped even today as Amman. (The Amman with chilambu in hand). 😊😊 Malayalis worship her as Kodungallur Bagavathy and Aattukal Devi. Also, kannagi’s Chilambu is so sacred in many temples in kerala. 😊😊😊 The Velichappadu concept and the Bharani celebrations are all for Kannagi only. But, unfortunately the Kerala historians had other plans and Kannagi is not known in kerala history after 10th century AD. Her name has been changed post that. 😊😊 All the above points are not to criticise the Malayali community as a whole for not knowing their history. It is just to create an awareness and to point out that how ill informed they are about their own history. 😊😊😊 I see my Malayali brothers as the Jack Nicholson’s of India who were cheated by their own kings and Rulers and historians for more than 8 centuries now. 😊😊 So, to answer this question once again, Not knowing their Tamil origin is not their mistake. 😊😊 Blacking out Kerala’s history was a well planned conspiracy plotted by the migrants who came to Kerala and started ruling the country independently from the end of 12th century onwards.
இந்தியாவில் செம்மொழி அங்கிகாரம் பெற பின்வரும் விதிகள் உள்ளது.. 1.பழமையான இலக்கியங்களை கொண்டு இருக்க வேண்டும். 2.ஒரு மொழியானது 1,500 முதல் 2,000 ஆண்டுகள் வரையிலான வரலாறு மற்றும் பழைமையான இலக்கியங்கள் கொண்டதாக இருக்க வேண்டும். அல்லது அம்மொழியின் துவக்ககால இலக்கியங்கள் உயர் தரத்தில் இருத்தல் வேண்டும். 3. மேலும் அந்த மொழியின் இலக்கிய மரபு தொடக்கத்திலிருந்தே அம்மொழிக்கு உரிமையானதாக இருத்தல் வேண்டும். 4..மற்ற மொழிகளின் இலக்கிய மரபுகளிலிருந்து பெறப்பட்டதாக இருக்கக் கூடாது. இதன் அடிப்படையிலே ஒரு மொழிக்கு செம்மொழி தகுதியை இந்திய அரசு வழங்கி வருகிறது. இந்தியாவில் தமிழ், சமசுகிருதம் கன்னடம், மற்றும் ஒடியா,மலையாளம் மொழிகள் செம்மொழிகளாக தகுதி பெற்றுள்ளது மலையாளமோ 800 ஆண்டுகள் தான் வரலாறு இலக்கியங்களை கொண்டது..13 நூற்றாண்டில் இராமா சரிதம் 14 நூற்றாண்டில் மணிப்ரவாளம் இலக்கியங்கள் எழுதப்பட்டது..எதுவுமே 800 ஆண்டுகள் தாண்டவில்லை .. பின் இவர்கள் எப்படி 1500 ஆண்டுகள் பழமையான இலக்கியம் உள்ளது என்று நீருபித்தார்கள்..??? முதலில் மலையாளம் வரலாற்றை பார்ப்போம் ஆரியர்கள் வருகைக்கு பிறகு சேரநாட்டு காரர்கள் தமிழை தான் பேசி வந்தனர் தமிழர்களாக தான் இருந்தனர்.. பிறகு தமிழுடன் மலையாளத்தை கலந்து புதியதாக மலையாள மொழியாக மாற்றம் செய்தனர்.. மலையாளம் தனியாக தோன்ற 13 நூற்றாண்டுகளில் இருந்து ஆரம்பித்தது.. பழைய இலக்கியங்கள் 13 நூற்றாண்டு - இராம சரிதம் 14 நூற்றாண்டு - மணி ப்ராவாளம் சில கல்வெட்டு ஆதாரங்கள் 9 ஆம் நூற்றாண்டில் வயநாடு எடக்கல் பகுதியில் மலையாள (வட்டெழுத்து) எழுதப்பட்டது என்றும் கூறுகின்றனர்.. 1700-1900 காலகட்டங்களில் பல்வேறு கிருத்துவ மதமாற்றும் போதகர்களால் மலையாள இலக்கணம் எழுதப்பட்டுள்ளது.. மதம்மாற்றுவதற்கு (ஆங்கிலம் to மலையாள பைபிள் ) பிரபலமான மலையாள இலக்கண நூல் 'கேரளா பண்ணிநீயாம்' இராஜா இராஜா வர்மா வால் எழுதப்பட்டது.. மலையாளம் தொடக்ககாலத்தில் மலையாளம் பழைய வட்டெழுத்துகளில் எழுதப்பட்டு வந்தன..அவர்கள் பச்ச மலையாளம் என்று கூறுவார்கள் அது தமிழ் வட்டெழுத்து .. ஆதாரம் www.keralaculture.org/language/158 மலையாள மொழியின் தந்தை துஞ்சத்து இராமானுஜன் எழுத்தச்சன்.. மேலே சொன்ன செம்மொழி விதிகள் மலையாளம் நிறைவு செய்கிறதா ??? தகுதி இருக்கிறதா?? நீங்களே பார்த்து கொள்ளுங்கள்... முதலில் மலையாளத்திற்கான கோரிக்கை நீராகரிக்கப்பட்டது விதிகள் நிறைவு செய்யவில்லை என்று பிறகு இரண்டு விதிகள் நிறைவு செய்கிறது என்று ஏற்று கொள்ளப்பட்டது... ஆதாரம்.. www.telegraphindia.com/india/classical-crown-for-malayalam/cid/297005#.U75H1_mSxUl அவர்கள் காட்டியது தமிழர்களுக்கு அறிந்த இலக்கியம் சிலப்பதிகாரம் தான்..(3 நூற்றாண்டு) அது எங்கள் பழைய சேரநாட்டுக்கு உடையது .இளங்கோவடிகள் சேரநாட்டை சார்ந்தவர் என்று சொந்தம் கொண்டாடினார்கள்… ஆனால் இப்போது மட்டும் நாங்கள் சேரநாடு காரர்கள் சிலப்பதிகாரம் எங்களுக்கு சொந்தமானது என்று உரிமைகோருபவர்கள்..ஏன் மலையாளிகளுக்கு 95% சிலப்பதிகாரம் பற்றி & வரலாறு பற்றி சுத்தமாக என்னவென்றே தெரியாது.. செம்மொழிக்கு உரிமை கோருபவர்கள் ஏன் பள்ளியில் சிலப்பதிகாரத்தை ஏன் போதிக்க வில்லை..?? தமிழ் மீது பொறாமையா ?? தமிழர்கள் மீது வெறுப்பா ??? தமிழ் இல்லாமல் அவர்களால் பேசவும் எழுதவும் படிக்கவும் அவர்களால் முடியாது... தமிழர்களை பாண்டி என்று இன்னும் கிண்டல் செய்து கொண்டு தான் இருக்கின்றனர்...தங்களை தனி இனம் போன்றே காட்டி கொள்வார்கள்..
@தமிழா!! THAMIZHA!! Malayalam is not from Your tamil .. , Tamil is not a Perfect Language even you can't write '' Tamil " in your Language .. you have No letter for "zh" so you always writes .. tamil .. but malayalam is technically Perfect and beautiful language. we Can write any Sound in our malayalam
sanskrit forms more than 80% of malayalam vocabulary. and the sandhi / grammar is heavily based on sanskrit. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayalam_grammar#Sandhi_common_with_Sanskrit malayalam is a language that has both lineages of dravidian(not tamil) and sanskrit. Malayalam preserves both these lineages without much adulteration and should be the the only language that does this so well. thus truth is being buried deep and i dont know why people are going with faux theories.
True! It is absolutely not correct to proclaim Malayalam language as originated or borrowed from the colloquial and literary language of Tamil nadu at any time in history. All the Dravidian languages have common/similar words because all the Dravidian languages are emerging from a Proto-Language or an undocumented common language from an unknown time in history like all the language groups in the world. Malayalam language is consisting of our traditional words and sanskrit words since time immemorial. It is an open fact that all the main Dravidian languages are influenced by Sanskrit grammar/vocabulary since since known literary history. This Aryan/Dravidian fiction as propagated by the speaker in this video is the real Myth.
@@FUNPARKPkm malayalam grammar is sanskrit grammar. Even hindi doesnt use sanskrit grammar attributes, sandhis like malayalam. And it does not use tamil letters. And letter were updated later. The original malayalam libi is different. And i am 100% sure 99% of tamilians cant even pronounce many of the malayalam alphabets. Forget about stealing from tamil. Also malayalam is a classical language, it has been proven. So shove that information into your tamil obsessed brain and start living with facts and reality.
@@minimaxmini7675 hahaha! If call LTTE as terrorist, then what do you call Srilankan govt & Indian peace keeping force, who genocided 5 laksh people. What do you call Indian Army & paramilitary forces who has been killing thousands of people in Kashmir valley , north east and central india?. If they are all terrorist, then LTTE is also terrorist. If you say that these guys defended their nation, then LTTE also defended their nation. It's not the act of terror.
@@krushgo1934 Yes those rascals are Indeed terrorist Bastards used childrens and common people as shields.. Child soldiers..... Murderers of A Man who happened lead my country into a prosperity of 21 st centuary Who killed innocent tamils and Sinhalese.... You are no differ from facists ..dont you have any shame... I am proud of my country..fuck all linguistic mairu pudungi desiyavadigal... Jai hind...
@@sreelakshmi7476 old thamizh was not prakirthi...that was thamizh vattezhutthu ..Prakrit belongs were north india before Sanskrit .. do u know thamizh inscriptionts
@Hare Krishna yess might be lots of difference but we Tamils can understand old Tamil it's not a foreign language....old Tamil evolved according to time
The word Tamizh itself is a transliteration of the Sanskrit word Dramila meaning the southernmost region of Bharata (India). All the Dravidian languages are influenced by sanskrit since time immemorial.
There is not even a non-sanskrit word for the colour blue. Many words are simply modification of sanskrit words. "Dravida" is a sanskrit word meaning the southernmost region of Bharata (India) and not a nickname for Tamilans, Telungans, Kannadigas etc:
Brahmins thinks they are a great peoples. But that wasn't. They are Vegetarian and knows Vedas. That wasn't a matter. I know Tamil Vedas , That was sung by Pure Tamil Azhwars. Your aryans has a Aryapatta, Veda viyasar and others. At the same time we have Kamban, Valluvan, Ilango ,etc. We are 100% independent by Sanskrit and Aryan culture.
i agree with nithin. and anyways languages arent invented by some king. so even if you get to prove that some king spoke tamil or not it doesnt matter cause language is part of evolution and all the ancient inscriptions in kerala are malayalam and theres no trace of tamil.
Arun Pandi nobody gives a fuck about your achivements. kerala has its own architecture and culture. dont try to force your language and culture on others. celebrate yours and let other people celebrate their own.
Malayalam originated from proto tamil. Then later north indian brahmins came with sanskrit. The caste influence gave birth to literary malayalam which had more sanskrit words. brahminsm made it elite. The "REAL" malayalam is what people speak. Pacha malayalam. The literary malayalam is only used by poets and scholars who wants to look their work sophisticated and uphelding imperial sanskrit words to upheld its highness. Sanskrit words in malayalam is just reminiscence of advent of brahmin/namboothiri in kerala which kept itselves as high caste. Majority of the population speaks pacha malayalam, more pure malayalam. Literary malayalam will gradually die over years as it never went to peoples tongues. No one speaks like or write like what the speaker speaks in video!. The guy who made video wanted to look literary high, hence intentionally use much more sanskritized words which normally no one use. These kind of people are the curse to the society. Sanskrit words in malayalam are just a redundancy. Malayalam has its own words for everything. So linking malayalalam as close sanskrit is quite stupidity. Malayalam is much closer to old tamil since both tamil and malayalam origination from same mother language and common script. Lot of people thinks malayalam is 80 percent sanskrit which is height of ignorance. its a fact that sanskrit grammer was much influenced by proto tamil grammer way back in indus valley civlilzation period, when sanskrit didnt even have a script to begin with but proto tamil did.
മലയാളം തമിഴിൽ നിന്നും തന്നെ ആണ്. പ്രാചീന തമിഴ്. മലയാളം തന്നെ തമിഴ് പദം ആകുന്നു. മലയാളികൾ അത് അംഗീകരിക്കണം. അക്ഷരങ്ങൾ പോലും തമിഴ് ആയിരുന്നു. എഴുതഅച്ഛന് ആണ് തമിഴ് ലിപി മാറ്റി മലയാളം ലിപി ഉണ്ടാക്കിയത്
@@amalsasi7258 da kunne malayalam pandikal accept cheyyo pinnengane pandi thamil malayalikal accept cheyyanam, Hindi valkkaranam pole mattoru racist thought aanu pandikalde tamil valkkaranam
@@mrperfect6839malayalam is fundamentally from tamll.. And pandee is not a derogatory word its denoted one of the ancient tamil dynasty who ruled southern India... Malayalam got numerous lexicon from tamil that was developed by pandyan dynasty have respect not hate...
Dc books check facts before u publish such nonsense..... malayalam developed from proto dravidian which is termed as ancient tamilians by tamils only....Not anyone else
Get ur facts u idiot . Malayalam is not formed from tamil. Pls stop saying this. Why u Tamils want to prove it. Mind your own business. We know our history.
Malayalam has a lot of similarity with hindi and modern tamil. Malayalam isn't pure tamil or pure sanskrit. it's a mix of both of it's ancestral form. Otherwise malayalam would have it's own ancestor which have some relations with tamil and sanskrit. And kanyakumari belonged to the now kerala, not tamil nadu before 1956.malyalam isn't derived from tamil alone, it's either a mix or it's has it's own ancestor.
Malayalam didn't originate from Sanskrit and Tamil. It is actually an ancient language spoken in Kerala since ancient times. David Dean Schulman points out that there has been a wrong tendency among historical linguists to think that Malayalam was diverged directly from Tamil. “There has been a tendency among historical linguists to think of Malayalam as having diverged directly from Tamil (the Tamil is spoken from the ancient times in what is today Kerala), perhaps as late as the thirteenth century. But this view is almost certainly wrong. Tamil and Malayalam must have separated from one another at a much earlier stage perhaps around the first millennium AD, as we can see from the several archaic features of Malayalam." David Dean Shulman, author of Tamil - A Biography, The Belkman's Press of Harvard University Press, 2016. "The preservation of many early linguistic features in Malayalam and the altered reflections of those features in Tamil point to the differentiation between the East coast (Tamil area) and the West coast (Malayalam area)” - A. Govindankutty Menon (the author of “From Proto-Tamil-Malayalam to West Coast Dialects”). Historically speaking, Malayalam (also known as Malabar language) was the only language of Old Malabar. In 15th century and 16th century, Malabar (also known as Old Malabar) refers to the region from Kumbla (located 11 Km north of Kasargod, a town in Today’s Kerala) to Cape Comorin (Kanyakumari which is now in Today’s Tamil Nadu). Portuguese Explorer and Writer Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521) points out that the land of Malabar begins from the place called Cumbola (Kumbla) and it ends at Cape of Comorin (Kanyakumari) and all men use one tongue only which they call “Maliama” (that is Malayalam). Malayazhma and Malayayma are variants of Malayalam. (Book “The Book of Duarte Barbosa: An Account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, written by Duarte Barbosa and completed about the Year 1518 A.D.” by Mansel Longworth Dames, Vol. 2, Pg. 1-7). Marco Polo (who lived in 13th century and early 14th century) also points out that Melibar (or Malabar) is a great kingdom lying towards the west. The people are Idolaters; they have a language of their own, and a king of their own, and pay tribute to nobody (The Travels of Marco Polo, Chapter 3, Chapter 25). During the time of Portuguese Explorer and Writer Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521),Tamil was spoken in the kingdom of Narsyngua. Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521) points out that the Kingdom of Narsyngua (The extensive Hindu Kingdom of Vijayanagar was known to Portuguese as Narsinga from the name of ruling Raja at the time of Vasco Da Gama’s first arrival in India. His name was Narasinha or Narsingha.) is so great that it had five vast provinces, each with its own language. The first of these extends along the coast as far as Malabar, and this they call Tolinate (Tulu-nada), another in the back-country behind it, which they call Danseam Rayen. The next which marches with the kingdom of Narsyngua proper, is called Telingu (Telugu); then the city of Bisnaga (Vijayanagar) itself, which they call Canarim (Kannada), and the kingdom of Charamandel (Coromandel), where the language is Tamul (Tamil). (Book “The Book of Duarte Barbosa: An Account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, written by Duarte Barbosa and completed about the Year 1518 A.D.” by Mansel Longworth Dames, Vol. 1, Pg. 182-184). The region of Today's Kerala in ancient times was known to Arab travellers and Marco Polo as Malabar (also written as Melibar) which was from Kumbla to Kanyakumari. Arab travelers and Marco Polo called Coromandel Coast (where Tamil was spoken) as "Ma'abar." I believe this was mentioned in Books “The Book of Duarte Barbosa: An Account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, written by Duarte Barbosa and completed about the Year 1518 A.D.” by Mansel Longworth Dames, Vol. 1 to 2. Many historians falsely assumed that Ma'abar was actually referring to Malabar. This gave people the wrong impression the chera tamil people lived in Kerala during ancient times. From what I researched, Sangham literature is actually associated with region of Ma'abar. Chera tamil people ruled the region of Coromandel Coast (also known as Ma'abar among foreigners).
malayalam has come partially from proto dravidian. Proto dravidian is extremely different from current tamil. What you are doing is calling proto dravidian with the same name v.i.z tamil and then establishing a faux narrative that malayalam came from tamil. The truth is that tamil, malayalam, kannada, tulu, telugu all have common roots but are different languages that evolved independently. But your fake theory imposes a fake propaganda that some people just mixed tamil and sanskrit in a lab and made a new language. Which is not true. Mainly because just mixing tamil and sanskrit cannot give you malayalam. The oldest inscription in kerala is in malayalam and not tamil. Thus establishing the fact that tamil even though has evidence that dates back to old times, was still not spoken in kerala. So for kerala the oldest inscription is in malayalam confirming the fact that malayalam is indeed the languagetof origin there and has evolved independently.
Proto dravidian is a reconstruction linguistic hypothesis theory based on cognate present in all southern language 😂it has no materialistic evidence. .. Malayalam roots to tamil ancient language of late tamilagam
The idea that Malayalam came out of Old tamil and Sanskrit stemmed from a confusion. The region of Today's Kerala in ancient times was known to Arab travellers and Marco Polo as Malabar (also written as Melibar) which was from Cumbola to Kanyakumari. Arab travelers and Marco Polo called Coromandel Coast (where Tamil was spoken) as "Ma'abar." I believe this was mentioned in Books “The Book of Duarte Barbosa: An Account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, written by Duarte Barbosa and completed about the Year 1518 A.D.” by Mansel Longworth Dames, Vol. 1 to 2. Many historians falsely assumed that Ma'abar was actually referring to Malabar. This gave people the wrong impression the chera tamil people lived in Kerala during ancient times. Sangham literature is actually associated with region of Ma'abar. Chera tamil people ruled the region of Coromandel Coast (also known as Ma'abar among foreigners).
@@anilvm2426 Foreigners called the region of Coromandel Coast as "Ma'abar." Coromandel Coast generally includes the region of Today's Tamil Nadu (excluding the regions of Chenkotta and from Paarashaala to Kanyakumari). The old maps can give visual details on this subject.
very pity.. how malayali allowed sanskrit in malayalam language. pure tamil speaking language is malayalam( i m not saying this..History telling this). But telugu speaking people interfered in malayalam(eg., all bramin comes from Andra pradesh at Krishnadevarayar kingdom period. Now a days that bramins ruling all famous kerala hindu temple who r all not malayalis. proved) so they provoked every malayali against tamilans. But pity malayalis could not aware this. what to do.....
sanskrit is the soul of bharat and we malayalis proud of using sanskrit words in malayalam almost 70% of malayalam words are from sanskrit and that is what makes malayalam the most sweetest and melodious language in india..
I don't know why some malayali people not ready to accept that Fact malayalam language is came from aadhi tamil, may be because they could feel inferior by accepting it. Because Tamil people, tamil language are always funniest thing for you guys. But dravidian proto is tamil and when tamil was mixed up sanskrit, and then malayalam born. Be cool guys.
@Leviathan.A28 hello mister malayalathaan, here am not talking about understanding the language, here itself in this video they are telling Malayalam was born from tamil, and later sanskrit was mixed, Simple. people like you will never digest the truth. I don't want to reply about this anymore to you (racist) and one thing we pandis are always pride about our language. 😁😂
@@kalyanasundaram2205hey dumilan you can't respect malayalam you can't accept malayalam you can't speak malayalam then you call us racists😂😂 and we also pride about our language more than you, that's why we don't want to portrait us as paandis 😂😂 chelekkand poda
*To all my tamil friends & Ignorant Malayalees : We’re(malayalam) not a mere dialect of Tamil. Our standard vocabulary is 80% Sanskrit and our grammar has been significantly impacted by Sanskrit (tripartite gender, ungendered conjugation, sandhi, cases, Sanskritic prefixes). We’re the only state in India that has a living Sanskrit theatre.*
You are correct. Malayalam is not derived from tamil. We have a separate origin
Reply in malayalam ,i can understand .Then i will reply you in tamil,You can definitely understand.
@@aravind_raina07 because of google translate,right :)
@@Truthholder345 Seperate origin? Can you find the proto Dravidian language?
where is chera nadu?what about pattanam excavations brother?history is history ...if u dont like malaylalam is from tamil,its okay..but i can easily understand malayalam even without learning....especially when village people talk as its less of sanskrit...even tamil has some sanskrit words now mixed but we have equivalent original words..by the way i am also part of chera nadu..(kongu region?
Some outsiders bragging about their language under a video about our history 😂. Guess these people are really insecure about their language. We don’t give a damn about your superioity theories. You guys can keep that to yourself insteading of crying under our videos. Respect every language. Don’t try to claim motherhood of every other language in the world. അമ്മ മലയാളം ❤️
Satyam 😁
aiwa romanchom
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Just pandi things പച്ച തമിളന്റെ രോദനം 😂😂😂
Angane parayu machane. ivar kure misconceptions edathu paranju. Oru sense illa avarkku.
Malayalam script is derived from Tulu script
(Tulu is also one of the Dravidian language)
Tamil script is derived from Pallava script.
(Pallavas are not of Tamil Nadu origin).
@@Nithin90 pallavas are chola orgin the inscription saying that
@@Nithin90 tamil scripts not derived from pallava Tamil letters evolved but not meaning sounds of letters and grammar . Pallava created sanskrit letters for budhist monk because they have disability to speak tamil without prakrit letter sounds sha haa jaa .
@@Nithin90 then why the inscription saying that cholas and pallavas are related
Letter 12 th century telegu scripts started evolved
Arabi malayalam connection paranjilla arabi letters use akiya time und. Athe pole Portugese English connection okke miss aakki
MALAYALAM IS APPROVED AS A CLASSICAL LANGUAGE BY THE GOVT. OF INDAI For being conferred with a classical status, the Government of India stipulates certain conditions/criteria. The language has to be more than 1500 years old. Tamil, Kannada, Telugu and Malayalam have satisfied all these conditions. In terms of literary output, achievement and glory, Malayalam stands third among Indian languages. And, coming to modern literature, the most coveted and rich languages in India are Malayalam, Kannada and Bengali.
On the basis of population it is found that Malayalam ranks fourth. As per the UNESCO’s language schedule, the position of Malayalam is 26th in terms of independent script and literature. Malayalam is the mother-tongue of over three and half crores of people. Among Keralites, 96.56 per cent have Malayalam as their mother-tongue. The break-up for Tamil, Telugu and Kannada are as follows: Tamil - 89 per cent; Telugu 85 per cent; and Kannada 63 per cent.
The oldest records mentioning the word ‘Keralam’ is King Asoka’s edicts. Written between 300 and 270 BC, one of the edicts has the word ‘Kethalaputha’ referring to Kerala. In the first and second centuries of the Christian Era, Kerala finds mention in the works of Pleni, Ptolemy, Periplus as ‘Keralabathros’. ‘Kethalaputha’ to foreigners was ‘Keralabathros’. Even before ‘Kakara’ became ‘Chakara’, the word ‘Keralam’ existed. It was after ‘Kakara-chakara-vikaram’ that ‘cheram, cheraman, cheralathan’ came into existence. The meaning of ‘Kethalaputha’ and ‘Cheraman’ are one and the same. ‘Cheramaban’ is Cheraman and Kethalaputha is ‘Keralaputhran’.
The ‘Pulimankombu Virakal’ inscription obtained from Theni in Tamilnadu, Edakkal Cave inscriptions, Pattanam inscriptions and Nedumkayam inscriptions of Nilambur prove that Malayalam has a history of more than 1500 years. The ‘Kesadipadham Stuthi’ in ‘Bhadrakali pattu’ and four ‘padams’ in ‘Yatrakali’ dates back to CE 6th century. Kerala can also claim a right to the Sanghom literature. Among the Sanghom poets, about forty- five of them are Keralites. ‘Chilapathikaram’, ‘Aikurunuruu’, Pathittupaathum’ are Kerala’s unique contribution. The Sanghom literature contains many ‘Malanadu’ words. The language used in Sanghom literature shows that Malayalam and Tamil has a common root. It is from this ancient root that Tamil and Malayalam branched out independently. While some of the rules in ‘Tholkapiyam’ are insignificant in modern-day Tamil, Malayalam retains them. This only further corroborates the evidence that Malayalam evolved from an ancient root.
The Sanghom literature throws light on our past history and language. That is to say, Malayalam originated from a pre-Dravidian language. A fully written form was absent in the past. The literary works were initially introduced orally. It was much later that the written word was formed. The most famous work of the period “Chilapathikaram” contains reference to Chakyars and Chera kings.
‘Chilapathikaram tells the story about the Chera king Cheran Chenkutuvan. It describes an incident that took place in the Chera capital, Vanchi. In the introduction of the work it states that, the book was written in a place named “Kunavayil Kottam’. Non-brahmanical temples were referred to as ‘Kottams’ in different languages. Kunavayil Kottam is Trikanamathilakom. Subsequently it shortened to become Mathilakom, near today’s Kodungallur and relics have been obtained from here. But excavations have not been carried out hitherto. On the basis of investigations, it could be proved that Malayalam evolved from an Adi Dravidian language.
No different is the case with the evolution of Tamil. There have not been any significant changes in Tamil either. The South Indian languages are distinct. Leaving aside Tamil, we find that the Malayalam language underwent many changes. With the coming of the brahmins, namboothiris and royal authorities and based on their scholarship Malayalam language transformed. Sanskrit, as discussed earlier, made intrusions into Malayalam to such an extent that it is difficult, today, to even trace the roots of Malayalam to Adi Dravidian language. However, it needs to be emphasized that on closer observation, it will be seen that the language being spoken and written in Kerala has its roots in Sanghom literature.
Kutiyattam, a visual art form of Kerala, embraces all the tenets of Natyasatra. It has not been possible to ascertain the exact age to the compositions (‘Aattam’ and ‘Karmadeepika’) used in Kutiyattam. The works may be as old as Chilapathikaram because “Koothu” has been referred to in this work.
Malayalam prose and poetry are rich with extraordinary creations. The first interpretations and translation of Kautilya’s Arthasastra was in Malayalam. So also, the first transliteration of Bhagavad Gita as per Sankara Bhashyam was in Malayalam. Paattu (songs), Manipravalam, Kilipaattu, Aattakatha and Thullal have enriched Malayalam literature. Songs and Manipravalam are mere namesake in Tamil and Telugu; they are very prominent in Malayalam.
Different phases mark out Malayalam as a classical language. Up to CE 8th century Proto-Tamil belonged to Malayalam. As mentioned earlier, Sanghom works, Bhadrakali pattu, Pulimankombu, Edakkal, Pattanam, Nilambur inscriptions all-belong to this period. Between 800 and 1300 CE, ancient Malayalam enjoyed the status of a classical language. More than two hundred rock inscriptions, copper plates, Bhashakautilyam, Attaprakarangal, Kramadeepikakal, Ramacharitham, Champus, Manipravalam works and essays belong to this period. The period from 1300 to 1600 CE is described as the medieval period of Malayalam classical phase. Belonging to this period were the authors of Leelatilakam, Kannassa poets, Poonam Namboothiri, Cherussery, etc. The period from 1600 CE marks the modern period. With Ezhuthachan’s works, literature attained the form of a humane language status. Ezhuthachan’s literary style proved that Malayalam language could handle any literary form. These were the evidences the Government of Kerala submitted to the Union government in a report for obtaining the classical language status.
An expert committee constituted in this regard recommended classical language status to Malayalam language on 19th December 2012. The Department of Culture of the Union Government accepting the recommendations forwarded it to the Prime Minister’s Office for necessary action. The Union Cabinet that met on 23rd May decided to accord classical language status to Malayalam. Receiving classical status means that under the Union Government a centre would start functioning looking into the literature and culture of Malayalam language. There would be steps to start Malayalam language departments in Central Universities. Awards would be instituted for the study of language and literature on par with international standards. The fund will be disbursed by the Union Government. The recognition received from the Union Government will definitely enhance and boost Malayalam language and literature manifold.
The grammatical principles of Malayalam language differs from the Tamil Grammars 'Tolkappiyam' and 'Nannul' of the 13th century due to the differences between the syntax, semantics and phonology of the colloquial language of the west and east of the Ghats since time immemorial.
The terms Tamizh/Damida as found in Tamil and Malayalam literary work is the transliteration of the sanskrit word Dramila/Dravida meaning the southernmost region of Bharata (India).
According to Tholkapiyam itself, The southernmost region of India or Tamizhagam is divided into 12 regions, in which 5 regions are in the west of the Ghats and 7 regions are in the east of the Ghats.
The literary language of the Eastern side of the Ghats or Tamil nadu follows the syntactic rules of the colloquial language within the 7 regions known as Thenpandi nadu, Panri Nadu, Punal nadu, Kuda nadu, Aruva nadu, Sida nadu and Vadathalai nadu since antiquity. The literary works as found from tamil nadu and sri lanka known as "Sangam literature's" are in the literary dialect as fashioned in the east of the Ghats or Tamil Nadu.
The literary language of the Western side of the Ghats or Keralam follows the syntactic rules of the colloquial language within the 5 regions known as Venadu, Kuttanadu, Karkanadu, Malanadu and Puzhinadu since antiquity. The oldest surviving cultural folk literature's including numerous thottams and hymns associated with Theyyam, Thira, Mudiyettu, Thiyyattu etc.are all in the literary dialect as fashioned in the west of the Ghats or Keralam.
It is not correct to proclaim Malayalam language as originated or borrowed from the colloquial and literary language of Tamil nadu at any time in history but it is a false perception based on false history such as the Hindu, Jain and Buddhist mythology based events/kings of Kerala (sera) territory as found in Tamil literary works are falsely accredited as the actual history of the past 2000 years of Keralam.
For example: Ilango Adikal was the brother of Senguttuvan and their father was Neduncheralathan, who is said to have conquered all of India until the Himalayas and his father Uthiyancheralatan is said to have fed the armies in the Mahabharata war.
There existed no illango adikal, senguttuvan, nedumcherlaathan, uthiyancherlaathan etc ruling Keralam and speaking the language of local tamil literature's as found from tamil nadu and sri lanka known as "sangam literature's".
It is an open fact that all the main Dravidian languages are influenced by Sanskrit since since time immemorial, Malayalam language is consisting of our traditional words and sanskrit words like all the main Dravidian languages since known literary history.
All the Dravidian languages have common/similar words because Malayalam, Tulu, Tamil, Kannada, Telugu and all of our languages are emerging from a Proto-Language or an undocumented common language from an unknown time in history like all the language groups in the world.
Let me explain how they were deprived of their own history.
Below are the things Malayalis are not taught or completely not aware of, even though these are are all very much part of their ancient past.
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They were made to believe that the mother of the Malayalam language was some prototype ancient language instead of Tamil - There are multiple claims that Malayalam evolved from a proto-dravidian language. But, no one realises that the proto-dravidian language itself was ancient Tamil.
😊😊 I see many claims from some of the Malayali friends that the old Tamil and the middle Tamil and the Modern Tamil are very different. Just for all of your info, Tamil is still following the same grammar which was defined during the first millennium BC. There is no diversion here.
😊😊 It is still the same language unchanged grammatically. There could be new words added during the modern era due to the modern usage. But, still the old word is used.
😊😊 The Sangam literature and the Pre-Sangam period grammar is still relevant and that is the core even today. So there is no question of old, middle or new. It’s just the continuation of the same language for the last three millenniums
😊😊 They are not aware about, into which language Sanskrit words were added desperately and that created Malayalam language - As per Kerala's recorded history, Malayalam was born From the Manipravalam form. At least everyone in Kerala agrees to this.
👍👍👍 Now, let’s see what is Manipravalam? Manipravalam മണിപ്രവാളം/ மணிப்ரவாளம் / மணிஇடைபவழம் நடை was a literary style used in medieval liturgical texts in ancient Thamizhagam.
👍👍 All must note here that Only when Tamil and Sanskrit is mixed, Manipravalam style of literature is born. not anything else. Mani-pravalam literally means ruby-coral, where Mani means ruby in Sanskrit while Pravalam means Coral in Tamil. Sanskrit is referred to as ruby and Tamil as coral.
😊😊 Now, you can do the simple math yourself and find out sanskrit got mixed with which language? So, it clearly suggests that Tamil was language which got mixed with Sanskrit, thus creating Malayalam.
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They are not at all aware what was the early native language’s grammar structure before Sanskritization - One must remember that any non-sanskrit words in Malayalam have their own grammar which has been followed in Tamil for centuries even before Sanskit was developed as an advanced language.
😊😊 For an example we have a word called “Noottaandugal”/ നൂറ്റാണ്ടുകൾ / நூற்றாண்டுகள் . When Nooru + aandugal joins together, the word Noottaandugal is derived. As per Tamil grammar there are three rules/formulas applied when adding the two words Nooru + aandugal and to convert into Noottaandugal as one single word. This was defined in Tamil well before Sanskit came to Kerala.
😊😊 So, is it possible to find the root words from Malayalam’s perspective for the Malayalam word “Iruunnalledathu”/ ഇരുന്നള്ളേടത്തു ? I am sure with Tamil grammar, we can still break this word in to the actual root words and we can say what rule can be applied and how this can be formed into one single word. Give it a try.
👍👍 Not aware of the glorious Sangam period literature (From 300 BC to 300 AD) and not taught about any of the kerala’s ancient Chera author’s literary works - Sangam literature talks about ancient Kerala (Chera Nadu) and recorded the life of ancient Chera people and their lives in many of its works. No one is aware of that. And it is surprising to see that some people claiming that Sangam literature never existed.
👍👍 This makes me laugh sometimes, because these are the people who cant believe the hundreds of ancient songs mentioning ancient kerala in detail and at the same time these are the people who tell others that Kerala was created by throwing an Axe.
😊😊😊 Not taught about the ancient Chera Tamil Landscapes - The entire Chera country (Today’s Kerala) was classified into “Thinnai”s according to the Sangam period Tamil landscapes (Kurinji, Mullai, Marudham, Neidhal, Palai).
Even today, we can see that In Kerala, many places named after the ancient Tamil Landscapes.
😊😊😊 I don't think anyone has any idea about this either.
Not aware why the ancient temples and ancient villages, Towns, Cities are starting with the Tamil honorific prefix “Thiru” and also Not aware why the names of ancient villages, Towns, Cities ending with “Oor” or “Peroor”- Just for an example, Thrissur - Thrissur's Old name was “Thiru Siva Peroor”. (Peroor means Periya + oor in Tamil).
👍👍 No one uses Periya in Malayalalam. Instead they use Valliya. If Periya is not a word in Malayalam, then how did Thrissur, the cultural city of Kerala got the Tamil name Periya Oor? Also, Thiru is used extensively in almost all ancient places with ancient Temples.
😊😊😊 So, this means that Kerala’s ancient past was Tamil and all the places in Kerala before tenth century were named as per Tamil prefixes and suffixes.
😊😊 Not aware of the ancient Tamil-Brahmi scripts even though many ancient artefacts found from Kerala were written in Tamil-Brahmi - I see that many from Kerala claim that the Brahmi letters came from north to South and also, they do not accept the fact that the ancient Brahmi letters found in Kerala were Tamil.
👍👍👍 I would like to pinpoint something here. From the Adichanallur archeology sites, archeologists unearthed many pots with Tamil-Brahmi letters in it. They belong to 500 BC which is roughly 200 years before Ashoka’s edicts. So, and the first one to introduce the Brahmi letters in India were Tamils.
😊😊 Please see, Newly discovered Brahmi inscription decipheredNot aware of Kerala's ancient Buddhism and Jainism past - The entire Kerala was a Buddhist country 2000 years back and the Jains and the buddhists lived side by side.
😊😊 As per the current corrupt historians of Kerala, the History of Kerala starts only after 10th century, hence, there is no way that Malayalis will come to know about their Buddhist past and their Jain past.
😊😊 (for all the people who deny their actual history, please check who was Karumadi Kuttan in kerala’s history and how did he ended up in the nearby stream and who damaged him and threw him there thousand years back.
👍👍👍 Check the following links for your reference.Karumadikkuttan - Wikipedia , Jainism in Kerala - Wikipedia , Neelamperoor Palli Bhagavathi Temple - Wikipedia . There are so many proofs in kerala.
Anyone can do their own simple research to find out more.Not aware of ancient Epics originated in Kerala 2000 years back- There were so many sangam period songs written in Tamil which talks about Kerala’s ancient past.
None of that is taught to the Malayali younger generations.
👍👍👍 Also, no historians is interested in looking at it as they firmly believes that the Kerala’s history starts only after 10th century AD.
😊😊 Not knowing who Kannagi was. Even though Kodungallur temple and Attukal temples are dedicated to Kannagi and not aware why Chilambu is so sacred in Kerala tradition - Kannagi is a Tamil women who lived 2000 years back and she is the central character of the Tamil epic Chilapathikaram / Silapathikaram which was written in Kerala by a Cheran author Illango adigal.
😊😊😊 She has been considered as a god in the Tamil country for the past 2000 years. As kerala was a Tamil buddhist country at that time, she was elevated to a goddess status in buddhism and kerala buddhist people started worshipping her. This has spread into the nearby buddhist country Srilanka and Srilankan buddhists also started worshiping Kannagi as Pattini Devi.
👍👍The Sirlankan Tamils worship her as Kannagi Amman. The Tamils from Tamilnadu has many temples for Kannagi and she is worshipped even today as Amman. (The Amman with chilambu in hand).
😊😊 Malayalis worship her as Kodungallur Bagavathy and Aattukal Devi. Also, kannagi’s Chilambu is so sacred in many temples in kerala.
😊😊😊 The Velichappadu concept and the Bharani celebrations are all for Kannagi only. But, unfortunately the Kerala historians had other plans and Kannagi is not known in kerala history after 10th century AD. Her name has been changed post that.
😊😊 All the above points are not to criticise the Malayali community as a whole for not knowing their history. It is just to create an awareness and to point out that how ill informed they are about their own history.
😊😊😊 I see my Malayali brothers as the Jack Nicholson’s of India who were cheated by their own kings and Rulers and historians for more than 8 centuries now.
😊😊 So, to answer this question once again, Not knowing their Tamil origin is not their mistake.
😊😊 Blacking out Kerala’s history was a well planned conspiracy plotted by the migrants who came to Kerala and started ruling the country independently from the end of 12th century onwards.
@@sabarieesan4006bro.
I am an archaeology student.
What you have told is 100 percentage correct.
Truth will be revealed.
M. I.P no need to lie. I am seeing you everywhere fighting with malayalies. Malayalam is not formed from tamil. All knows that
@@sabarieesan4006 Artefacts found at the site in Keezhadi, about 12 km from Madurai, push back the date of Tamil-Brahmi script to another century i.e. 6th century BCE. These results clearly ascertained that they attained literacy or learned the art of writing as early as 6th century BCE.
Read Carefully,
Old Tamil is a mother of Malayalam and modern Tamil its sister. But, as they have the same name, people often credit the motherhood of Malayalam to modern Tamil. Malayalis and Tamilian’s both assume that the heritage of old Tamil belong to modern Tamilian’s. However, this heritage belongs as much to Malayalais as to Tamilians. I share my name with my father and grandfather - Divakaran. Will my brother accept if I say that I alone should inherit my father’s property? Would any of you believe if I say I am over 100 years old? Certainly no. I feel the same is true about languages.
There are some who believe that there is no difference between old Tamil and modern Tamil. I feel that is utter nonsense. I feel that, being mutually intelligible is a necessary condition for being the same language. Very few Tamilians would understand old Tamil. Those who understand, are able to do that by training. If Malayali’s are given similar training, they would be able to pick it up with the same ease. It might even turn out easier for Malayalis as many old words in Tamil are still used in Malayalam. Also, note that, most Malayalis understand Tamil, but most Tamilians do not understand Malayalam.
The aim of this post is not to deprive Tamil of its classical status or Tamilians of their heritage. It is only to bring better understanding about our family of languages, their shared past and our common heritage, making it easier for us to love and appreciate the members of this family even more.
Note: This article originally appeared in Malayalam on the author’s blog ‘Manorajyam’, under the title ‘Namaspardha‘
#WinT so what we Tamils can't understand old Tamil ?.....Lol the Tamil we speak is entirely different from the Tamil we write......old Tamil is developed and formed into modern Tamil.....olden Tamil +evolution+Sanskrit= Malayalam.... vatteluttu was oldest form of Tamil writings..so here is the proof....en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatteluttu_alphabet.....we Tamils know old Tamil as well as modern tamil
#WinT ...you malayalees don't have language knowledge
You morons old Tamil and modern Tamil were not different it was same ....modern Tamil was developed from old Tamil ....🤣🤣😂😂😂the author manorajyam sayings was the funniest thing I've ever heard....if u don't know Tamil history don't talk....
@@surajsuresh7210 Malayalies have language knowledge than any other people in the world ..but it cant be expexted accoding to ur LTTE propoganda u idiot..Malayalam abd Tamil are sister languages..Dravidian culture and Sangam literature belongs to not only tamil but malayalies..Without chera nadu and Ilango adigal..Dravidian culture is nothing
@@minimaxmini7675 Most of the Malayali population do not know or do not believe their Tamil origin.
The major reason is that they are not taught the correct history in school. History of Kerala and history of Malayalam Language is falsified with plenty of wrong informations.
According to the historians from Kerala and as per their records, the history of Kerala starts from around 9th - 10th century AD. The history of Malayalam language starts from around 13th - 14th century AD. Anything before that period is a mystery to the Malayali population. No one knows who lived in Kerala before 10th century and what language they spoke. It is so surprising to see that one of the highly literate state is doing so poor when it comes to their own history.
The funniest part is that, some people still argue that Malayalam is a sister language to Tamil and both came from a common ancestor not realising which language was the mother of Malayalam. Also, no one knows the history of Chera people who were the actual ancestors of entire Kerala population (excluding the migrants).
ഇവിടെ കുറെ തമിഴന്മാർ തമിഴ് ആണ് മലയാളത്തിന്റെ mother എന്നൊക്കെ പറഞ്ഞു നടക്കുന്നുണ്ട്. തമിഴും മലയാളവും ഉത്ഭവിച്ചത് ഒരേ ഭാഷയിൽ നിന്നാണ്. പഴയ ദ്രാവിഡ ഭാഷ. മലയാളം പിന്നീട് സംസ്കൃതം കൂടുതലായി ഉപയോഗിച്ചു ഇന്ന് കാണുന്ന രീതിയിൽ ആയി. അതുപോലെ ഇപ്പോഴത്തെ തമിഴും പഴയ ദ്രാവിഡ ഭാഷയിൽ മാറ്റം വന്നാണ് ഉണ്ടായത്. അതായത് തമിഴ് എങ്ങനെ ഉണ്ടായോ, അതുപോലെ, അതേസമയം മലയാളവും ഉണ്ടായി.
പക്ഷെ ഇവന്മാർ തമിഴ് ദേശീയത കേട്ട് പഠിച്ചു പഴയ ദ്രാവിഡ ഭാഷയെ വരെ തമിഴ് എന്നാണു വിളിക്കുന്നത്. അതാണ് മലയാളം തമിഴിൽ നിന്നാണ് ഉണ്ടായത് എന്ന് ഇവന്മാര് പറയുന്നത്. അത് തെറ്റാണ്. ഇവന്മാർ ഉദ്ദേശിക്കുന്നത് ഇപ്പോഴത്തെ തമിഴിൽ നിന്നാണ് മലയാളം ഉണ്ടായത് എന്നാണ്. തമിഴന്മാർ പലരും അങ്ങനെ ആണ് വിശ്വസിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നത്.
ഒരു ഉദാഹരണം പറഞ്ഞുതരാം. ഹിന്ദി ഉണ്ടായത് സംസ്കൃതത്തിൽ നിന്നാണ്. മറാത്തി, ബംഗാളി എല്ലാം സംസ്കൃതത്തിൽ നിന്നാണ് ഉണ്ടായത്. പക്ഷെ ഇന്ന് സംസ്കൃതം ഹിന്ദിക്കാർക്കു വരെ മനസ്സിലാകില്ല. സംസ്കൃതത്തെ വേറെ ഭാഷ ആയിട്ടാണ് കാണുന്നത്. ഒരു ദിവസം ഹിന്ദിക്കാർ സംസ്കൃതത്തെ പഴയ ഹിന്ദി എന്ന് വിളിക്കാൻ തുടങ്ങിയിട്ട് മറാഠിയും ബംഗാളിയും ഒക്കെ ഉണ്ടായത് ഹിന്ദിയിൽ നിന്നും ആണെന്നും ഹിന്ദി ആണ് ഇവരുടെ എല്ലാം mother എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞാൽ എങ്ങനെ ഇരിക്കും? അതാണ് ഈ തമിഴന്മാർ ചെയ്യുന്നത്.
Then why do you show silappathikaaram which is a tamil literature as proof that malayalam is ancient?
മലയാളത്തിലെ ആദ്യ കൃതി രാമചരിതം അല്ലേ, ചിലപ്പതികാരം അല്ലല്ലോ. കൂടാതെ ദേശങ്ങൾ അന്ന് ബന്ധപെട്ടു കിടക്കുന്നതും കൂടെ ചേർത്തു വായിക്കണം. ആദി ദ്രാവിഡ ഭാഷയിലെ മക്കളായി തമിഴിലെയും മലയാളത്തെയും കാണണം. അതിൽ രൂപം ആദ്യം കൊണ്ടത് തമിഴ് ആണ്. പക്ഷേ മൂത്ത സഹോദനായിട്ടെ തമിഴിനെ കാണാൻ കഴിയു..
YTA
Malayalam had tamil script till the 15th century. Kerala was occupied by chera tamil people before the namboodiri's came with their sanskrit.
Original malayalam is chera tamil language.
Malayalam and timil different, all are originated from same family. Malayalam exactily the same scripture strucure as tamiz, is focus to Dravida family.
@@vishnukpillai6446
Malayalam had tamil script till the 15th century. Kerala was occupied by chera tamil people before the namboodiri's came with their sanskrit.
Original malayalam is chera tamil language.
മലയാളവും തെലുങ്കും തുളുവും തമിളും കന്നഡവുമെല്ലാം proto draveedian ancestor language ൽ നിന്ന് ഉത്ഭവിച്ചിട്ടുള്ള ഭാഷകളാണ്. അതുകൊണ്ടാണ് ഇവയ്ക്ക് classical ലാംഗ്വേജ് പദവി നൽകിയിരിക്കുന്നത്.ഭാഷ എന്നത് ആശയം സംവദിക്കാനുള്ള ഒരു ഉപാധി മാത്രമാണ്.
മലയാളത്തെ കുറിച്ച് ഇത്രയും നല്ല വിവരണം കേട്ട് നിറഞ്ഞിട്ട് ...,
ഇവിടെ ഇട്ടിരിക്കുന്ന കമന്റ്റുകൾ എല്ലാം തന്നെ ഇംഗ്ലീഷിൽ ആണല്ലോ(മലയാളത്തിൽ അല്ലേ അല്ല )
ഇതിൽ നിന്നും മനസ്സിലാക്കേണ്ടത് എന്താണ്..?
ഒരു പാവം സാദാരണക്കാരിയുടെ എളിമയോടെയുള്ള സംശയവും ചോദ്യവുമാണെ...
namboodiris are aryans. Sanskrit is theirs. Sanskrit corrupted malayalam. The current malayalam is CORRUPTED & not the same as it was 5 centuries ago. RESTORE THE ORIGINAL MALAYALAM.
@Akmal Hk
So why you took the tamil document tholkaapiyam to delhi in order to prove malayalam's antiquity?
@Akmal Hk
Prakrit (baagatham in tamil) means "original" & refers to the vast tamil language spoken in various regions with various accents, various set of words & various grammatical structures but later evolved into different languages due to mixing with foreign languages.
@@savedchristian4754 we dont fucking use sankritam here brother...... u r reserched wrong, pure malayalam only even tamils cant understand it that is what our pure language, but we can understand ur language so fast becos we were the old one before new colloquial tamil, annaa thinkk pannne annaa😃
@@jaferwaseem4047
You fucking don't use sanskrit? But malayalees say sanskrit is father of malayalam.
The oldest writing in the indian subcontinent is tholkaappiyam which is in thamizh not malayalam.
You are not taught tholkaappiyam literature in kerala. That's how you rejected thamizh.
Jesus took punishment for humans sins upon Himself on the cross but other fake gods send people to do punniya from town to town.
I am non Keralite, but I love Malayalam.Enikku Malayalam istamanu
What a sweet language !! 🥰🥰🥰👍
njan oru malyaliyanu pakshe Tamil aanu ella languagestineyum uravidam
The worlds oldest language The mother of all languages Tamil
Latin,Sumerian,aramic,Arabic,sankrit ellam tamilil ninn vannathano ?
@@minimaxmini7675 hey moron! First understand we were spoken same language until the situation of fucking nambhoothiris.
We are kith and kin genetically, linguistically, ethnically.
What you call as traditional differences between Tamil and kelalite, they were intentionally created by the dog fucking nambhoothiris for them to grab the control over the poLitics and land of the sera nadu.
Even later seraman king kulasekaran and his son had written devotioNal tamil poems.
First understand history.
We, dravidians are all same ethinic group. We should stand solidly against Aryan brahmins' cultural intrusion.
@@Nithin90 dai mutta sunni, in all over indian subcontinent, bakthi movement started in then combined Tamilnadu and kerala very first 6th century on words.. do not create myth like it had started 4000 years ago. 4000 years ago, Aryans didn't have intruded into the subcontinent.
Seramaan kulasekaran belongs to 8th century, he visited many saiva, vainava temples, did many maintenance works to these temples. If you want proof, then read sounth indian epigraphy book, which gives ample of copper plate inscriptions, rock inscriptions.
Saiva, vainva religions were not hindu religion until william johnes coined the word in 1799.
Only before 150 years , because of the deceitive brahmins like you, all
Nadan deivangal, saivam,vainavam, bhuddham, Jainism all grouped together as hindu religion. So before you attempt to change the history, there will be always hinderences come from Tamilnadu . Because it is Periyar mann. That's why even after RSS - BJP - BRahmin - Baniya decoits sized considerable place in kerala, that's still remain impossible in TamilNadu. Even your power ful man Modi had to fly only in sky not in road.
@@minimaxmini7675 poda siru vada ...
@@krushgo1934 you dont know any stuff about Namboothiries or Nairs or even about the social structure of kerala..You are only an emotional explosive pseudo bomb..Only You intense emotions are flowing...u are not looking whether it is right or wrong...what ever absurd you hear from any where and get emotional and vomit here..You are here only to show your state is some what above others and by saying so taking pride in it...But let me tell you We dont have Maire Regarding it.Caste system is more dangerous inTamil Nadu than kerala.Kerala have a tradition of eradicating Social evils like caste system but in tamil nadu still u will get killed if u marry ftom another caste..i remember that incident happened in tiruppur where The boy is killed by casteist parent of the girl!5Have you forgot Meenachipuram conversion...renaming it into Rahmatpuram because of the Enlightment ypu say an entire village of dalits converted to Islam because of the persecution by Upper caste
.Dai chinna payya..Unarchiyile ni olararuthu enakku nalla puriyum ana vayikku vanda padi pesadada chella..poyi Konchom varalaru padi poyi
Odu Malare k vazhi
English subtitles will be much more appreciated...plz...
this is for malayalees who are u
Listen to the first fifty seconds. It clearly states Malayalam came from Tamil. Then why people are so confused?
No doubt it came from tamil,it in the process got heavily sanskritised during early and middle common era
Not only from tamil also from sanskrit
@@F0NZZI Artefacts found at the site in Keezhadi, about 12 km from Madurai, push back the date of Tamil-Brahmi script to another century i.e. 6th century BCE. These results clearly ascertained that they attained literacy or learned the art of writing as early as 6th century BCE.
@@F0NZZI As a proto-language, Proto-Dravidian is not itself attested in historical records. Its modern conception is based solely on reconstruction. It is suggested that the language was spoken in the 4th millennium BCE, and started disintegrating into various branches around 3rd millennium BCE. proto Dravidian is a myth
In 1st century there was no language called Malayalam...there was only old Tamil ...after the influence of Sanskrit and evolution Malayalam was formed ....Tamil dates in 1st century and the proof for that is called tholkappiyam an grammar literature...
Nithin90 we have evidence that tholkappiyam have been dated before 1st century... because of its writing method which is known as thamizhi writings....if u don't know Tamil history don't argue
Nithin90 there's no evidence ....lol 😂....en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tolk%C4%81ppiyam.. I asking to u do u know about thamizhi words , if u don't know about tat go Nd Google it ... I repeatedly saying that if u don't know about Tamil history don't argue bro
Even that Wikipedia page itself states very clearly that the dating of Tholkappiyam is imprecise and uncertain. It is you who need to read what you Google rather than post it here as if it supports your clams. lol
Nithin90 so that u are saying that tholkappiyam is dated in 11th century....moron tholkappiyam is nothing but it is a Tamil grammar literature which explains that how to form Tamil word and how to write...how come it will be dated in 11th century
Nithin90 thamizhi words are different from old Tamil middle Tamil and modern Tamil.... Tamil words which is used in tholkappiyam were the example that it is dated in 1st century
Once upon a time this land belongs to tamils when sanskrit entered into india Tamil language split into telugu malayalam kannada tulu languages actually we are real indians, hail dravidanadu support from telangana state
You fool Telugu is not, Telugu had it's origin different from that of tamil,kannada and malayalam
Last it doesn't matter we are one
I need some English subtitles! :0
But this language is very melodious!
Oh you think Malayalam is melodious! Thank you! Where are you from? ni shi zhong guo ren ma?
Nallaa avatharanm
Thanks
*Unfortunetly, Because* *invasion of sanskrit old* *Tamil people in Seralam/* *Keralam currently becomed* *malayalees*
*just before 500 years* *from now*
Just before 1200 from now.....
Vazhappally shasanam(9th century AD) have many sanskrit words
Bro. Please Do accept the changes. 👍
@Abhishek NS tamil is always same through out it's lifetime. It had adaptation. You can't say it proto tamil. That's the secret if it's survival for a long period.
Proto dravidian was the base root out of which tamil telugu kannada malayalam tulu etc came. Tamil supremacy theorists(almost 99% of tamilians) dominated with their faux theories and many gullible malayalees let them. But recently people have proved and malayalam has been conferred classical language status.
The oldest inscription in vazhapalli kerala is in malayalam and not in tamil.
Humans evolved from chimpanzees in Africa and maybe you can claim that they spoke tamil. But still that language evolved from somewhere and it varied across different regions.
@@VinitNayar You cant say that was a false claim. Tamil has literature treasure. But, constantly forbidden in history books of India. Now we are celebrating it. PM declares tamil is oldest in 2019. We don't impose tamil and not false claiming. We are celebrating. It was a nature there from sangam period. Tamil is always more than a language for us. We don't like to call it tamil, not proto dravidian. We phrase tamil as goddess here. No domination. Just breaking our inferiority mindset with pride.
Let me explain how they were deprived of their own history.
Below are the things Malayalis are not taught or completely not aware of, even though these are are all very much part of their ancient past.
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They were made to believe that the mother of the Malayalam language was some prototype ancient language instead of Tamil - There are multiple claims that Malayalam evolved from a proto-dravidian language. But, no one realises that the proto-dravidian language itself was ancient Tamil.
😊😊 I see many claims from some of the Malayali friends that the old Tamil and the middle Tamil and the Modern Tamil are very different. Just for all of your info, Tamil is still following the same grammar which was defined during the first millennium BC. There is no diversion here.
😊😊 It is still the same language unchanged grammatically. There could be new words added during the modern era due to the modern usage. But, still the old word is used.
😊😊 The Sangam literature and the Pre-Sangam period grammar is still relevant and that is the core even today. So there is no question of old, middle or new. It’s just the continuation of the same language for the last three millenniums
😊😊 They are not aware about, into which language Sanskrit words were added desperately and that created Malayalam language - As per Kerala's recorded history, Malayalam was born From the Manipravalam form. At least everyone in Kerala agrees to this.
👍👍👍 Now, let’s see what is Manipravalam? Manipravalam മണിപ്രവാളം/ மணிப்ரவாளம் / மணிஇடைபவழம் நடை was a literary style used in medieval liturgical texts in ancient Thamizhagam.
👍👍 All must note here that Only when Tamil and Sanskrit is mixed, Manipravalam style of literature is born. not anything else. Mani-pravalam literally means ruby-coral, where Mani means ruby in Sanskrit while Pravalam means Coral in Tamil. Sanskrit is referred to as ruby and Tamil as coral.
😊😊 Now, you can do the simple math yourself and find out sanskrit got mixed with which language? So, it clearly suggests that Tamil was language which got mixed with Sanskrit, thus creating Malayalam.
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They are not at all aware what was the early native language’s grammar structure before Sanskritization - One must remember that any non-sanskrit words in Malayalam have their own grammar which has been followed in Tamil for centuries even before Sanskit was developed as an advanced language.
😊😊 For an example we have a word called “Noottaandugal”/ നൂറ്റാണ്ടുകൾ / நூற்றாண்டுகள் . When Nooru + aandugal joins together, the word Noottaandugal is derived. As per Tamil grammar there are three rules/formulas applied when adding the two words Nooru + aandugal and to convert into Noottaandugal as one single word. This was defined in Tamil well before Sanskit came to Kerala.
😊😊 So, is it possible to find the root words from Malayalam’s perspective for the Malayalam word “Iruunnalledathu”/ ഇരുന്നള്ളേടത്തു ? I am sure with Tamil grammar, we can still break this word in to the actual root words and we can say what rule can be applied and how this can be formed into one single word. Give it a try.
👍👍 Not aware of the glorious Sangam period literature (From 300 BC to 300 AD) and not taught about any of the kerala’s ancient Chera author’s literary works - Sangam literature talks about ancient Kerala (Chera Nadu) and recorded the life of ancient Chera people and their lives in many of its works. No one is aware of that. And it is surprising to see that some people claiming that Sangam literature never existed.
👍👍 This makes me laugh sometimes, because these are the people who cant believe the hundreds of ancient songs mentioning ancient kerala in detail and at the same time these are the people who tell others that Kerala was created by throwing an Axe.
😊😊😊 Not taught about the ancient Chera Tamil Landscapes - The entire Chera country (Today’s Kerala) was classified into “Thinnai”s according to the Sangam period Tamil landscapes (Kurinji, Mullai, Marudham, Neidhal, Palai).
Even today, we can see that In Kerala, many places named after the ancient Tamil Landscapes.
😊😊😊 I don't think anyone has any idea about this either.
Not aware why the ancient temples and ancient villages, Towns, Cities are starting with the Tamil honorific prefix “Thiru” and also Not aware why the names of ancient villages, Towns, Cities ending with “Oor” or “Peroor”- Just for an example, Thrissur - Thrissur's Old name was “Thiru Siva Peroor”. (Peroor means Periya + oor in Tamil).
👍👍 No one uses Periya in Malayalalam. Instead they use Valliya. If Periya is not a word in Malayalam, then how did Thrissur, the cultural city of Kerala got the Tamil name Periya Oor? Also, Thiru is used extensively in almost all ancient places with ancient Temples.
😊😊😊 So, this means that Kerala’s ancient past was Tamil and all the places in Kerala before tenth century were named as per Tamil prefixes and suffixes.
😊😊 Not aware of the ancient Tamil-Brahmi scripts even though many ancient artefacts found from Kerala were written in Tamil-Brahmi - I see that many from Kerala claim that the Brahmi letters came from north to South and also, they do not accept the fact that the ancient Brahmi letters found in Kerala were Tamil.
👍👍👍 I would like to pinpoint something here. From the Adichanallur archeology sites, archeologists unearthed many pots with Tamil-Brahmi letters in it. They belong to 500 BC which is roughly 200 years before Ashoka’s edicts. So, and the first one to introduce the Brahmi letters in India were Tamils.
😊😊 Please see, Newly discovered Brahmi inscription decipheredNot aware of Kerala's ancient Buddhism and Jainism past - The entire Kerala was a Buddhist country 2000 years back and the Jains and the buddhists lived side by side.
😊😊 As per the current corrupt historians of Kerala, the History of Kerala starts only after 10th century, hence, there is no way that Malayalis will come to know about their Buddhist past and their Jain past.
😊😊 (for all the people who deny their actual history, please check who was Karumadi Kuttan in kerala’s history and how did he ended up in the nearby stream and who damaged him and threw him there thousand years back.
👍👍👍 Check the following links for your reference.Karumadikkuttan - Wikipedia , Jainism in Kerala - Wikipedia , Neelamperoor Palli Bhagavathi Temple - Wikipedia . There are so many proofs in kerala.
Anyone can do their own simple research to find out more.Not aware of ancient Epics originated in Kerala 2000 years back- There were so many sangam period songs written in Tamil which talks about Kerala’s ancient past.
None of that is taught to the Malayali younger generations.
👍👍👍 Also, no historians is interested in looking at it as they firmly believes that the Kerala’s history starts only after 10th century AD.
😊😊 Not knowing who Kannagi was. Even though Kodungallur temple and Attukal temples are dedicated to Kannagi and not aware why Chilambu is so sacred in Kerala tradition - Kannagi is a Tamil women who lived 2000 years back and she is the central character of the Tamil epic Chilapathikaram / Silapathikaram which was written in Kerala by a Cheran author Illango adigal.
😊😊😊 She has been considered as a god in the Tamil country for the past 2000 years. As kerala was a Tamil buddhist country at that time, she was elevated to a goddess status in buddhism and kerala buddhist people started worshipping her. This has spread into the nearby buddhist country Srilanka and Srilankan buddhists also started worshiping Kannagi as Pattini Devi.
👍👍The Sirlankan Tamils worship her as Kannagi Amman. The Tamils from Tamilnadu has many temples for Kannagi and she is worshipped even today as Amman. (The Amman with chilambu in hand).
😊😊 Malayalis worship her as Kodungallur Bagavathy and Aattukal Devi. Also, kannagi’s Chilambu is so sacred in many temples in kerala.
😊😊😊 The Velichappadu concept and the Bharani celebrations are all for Kannagi only. But, unfortunately the Kerala historians had other plans and Kannagi is not known in kerala history after 10th century AD. Her name has been changed post that.
😊😊 All the above points are not to criticise the Malayali community as a whole for not knowing their history. It is just to create an awareness and to point out that how ill informed they are about their own history.
😊😊😊 I see my Malayali brothers as the Jack Nicholson’s of India who were cheated by their own kings and Rulers and historians for more than 8 centuries now.
😊😊 So, to answer this question once again, Not knowing their Tamil origin is not their mistake.
😊😊 Blacking out Kerala’s history was a well planned conspiracy plotted by the migrants who came to Kerala and started ruling the country independently from the end of 12th century onwards.
I'm a Malayalee, but also being a student of history, I find this comment to be very important. Great points Sabareesan V!
@@ayanjoemusic The characters of 'Kannagi and Kovalan' in the Jain prequel 'Silapathikaram' and the Buddhist sequel 'Manimegalai' of Tamil Nadu are derived from the native 'Kanyavu and Balakan' of the Old Malayalam ballad of Kerala known as 'Thottam Paattu' in which 'Kanyavu' killed the Pandian king and burned down Madurai and Lord Shiva established her abode at Thiruvanchikulam (i.e Kodungallur) in the Kerala tradition.
The Jain prequel 'Silapathikaram' and the Buddhist sequel 'Manimegalai' of Tamil Nadu are abounded in the references to Brahmanas, Vedic Yajnas and even the art forms of Kerala but the story and the characters of Ilango adikal, Kannagi, Kovalan, Senguttuvan, Nedumchezhiyan etc are neither historical figures nor historical documents but fictional characters of their traditional creative poetry or mythology of Tamil Nadu such as Pattupattu, Ettutokai etc and NOT part of Kerala Tradition.
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‘Ilango Adikal’ was the brother of ‘Senguttuvan’ and their father was ‘Nedumseralathan’, who is said to have conquered all of India until the Himalayas (i.e Imayamalai) and his father ‘Uthiyanseralathan’ is said to have fed the armies in the Mahabharata war from Kuttanadu in Kerala (i.e Sera-Nadu) Ex. Paripadal but there existed no 'illango adikal, senguttuvan, nedumseralaathan, uthiyanseralaathan etc' in Kerala history or Indian history during the period of Ptolemy, Pliny or Ashoka's time when the sovereign of Kerala was titled as 'Keralaputhra' in Sanskrit.
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The 1st century and 2nd century European travelers referred to the geographical region of South India as ‘Dakinabades’ after the Sanskrit word ‘Dakshinapatha’ whereas they referred to Kerala as ‘Damirica’ after the Sanskrit word ‘Dramidaka’ meaning the southernmost region of Bharata (Indian subcontinent) thus the Oldest literary works and inscriptions of Kerala refers to the three main political entities of Dramida (KL and TN) as ‘Kerala-Country, Chola-Country, Pandya-Country’ in which Mahodayapuram (I.e Makkothayarpattanam in Old Malayalam) was the capital of the Kerala king whereas the terms ''sangam age' and 'second chera empire' are used by modern historians to create an 'historical time period' for the occurrence of the mythological events and kings as relating to the hindu, jain, and buddhist mythology as written in Tamil language (i.e pattitrupattu, silapathikaram, manimegalai, periyapuranam etc)
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The invaders from Tamil Nadu in the 11th century themselves referred to Keralam (i.e Seralam in Tamil) as the 'Land of Parashurama' in their copper-plate inscription but bias historians disregard native Kerala traditions and proclaim the Tamil Nadu mythological works and traditions which refers to the kings and temples of Kerala (i.e Sera-Nadu) as Kerala history and even Language when it is proven by linguists that the grammatical principles of Malayalam language contrasts from Tamil language due to the natural differences in the syntax, semantics and phonology between the regional languages of the east and west of the Ghats mountain ranges since known history.
Nitin if u really aware about tamil and malayalam i can say that one mother but children r having different types of quality
Great one ..
I am also malayali
This is a nice info ..
But the facts are well known to malayalees nowadays..
Sir, The vernacular language of Kerala (i.e Keralabhasha) referred to as 'Tamizh' in the Kerala literary works possessed its own phonological and morphological features distinct from the 'Tamizh' of the inhabitants East of the Ghats (i.e Pandi, Chola, Konga, Thonda) in Indian history.
For Example: "Sri vedavyaasa mahaarishi aruli cheyytha brahmaanda puraanathin madhyabhaagathe itha njaan tamizhaayi kondu ariyikkunnen" - Malayalam - Brahmanda Puranam (14th Century C.E)
The manuscripts and inscriptions of Kerala in Grantha, Vattezhuthu, Kolezhuthu etc until the 18th century C.E is able to show the linguistic continuity of our Malayalam language since the 9th Century C.E as consisting of nasalised and non-nasalised words (ex. ninnu, ninru etc) or words with and without the diphthong ai (ex. kara, karai etc) or the use of verbs with and without personal endings (ex. cholli, chonnal etc) as well as Sanskrit derivatives (Ex. thevan (deva), pakkaran (bhaskara), keyavan (keshava), kirithan (krishna), kandan (skanda) etc)
For Example:
“Purakizhanadu moothakooru vazhumavar vannu thiruvadiye thozhuthal moonnazhiyal ayiranaazhi ari koduthu iraiyipikkadavar”- Malayalam - Thirunelli Inscription- 10th century C.E
For Example: "Maadhavi mandhasmitham cheyythu kumppittu ninru madhuryatharavacha vasviyottu chonnal" - Malayalam - Mahabharatham - 16th Century C.E
For Example: "Kollamaandu ennoottirupathinalu makaramasam avanaparambil kandan vazhakkarai kanakka balikkal pani cheyyiththu" -Malayalam - Vettikkavala Inscription - 17th Century C.E
The Dravidian languages of Malayalam, Tamil, Tulu, Kannada, Telugu etc as consisting of common/similar Sanskrit derivatives and common/similar words and other such common/similar grammatical features including personal endings as found in the inscriptions or manuscripts or in the colloquial language including the Tribal Languages (ex. Irula, Kurumba etc) are all emerging from a Proto-Dravidian language meaning an undocumented common spoken language in pre-history as attested by all linguists today.
‘The view that Malayalam as having diverged from Tamil is certainly wrong, as we can see from the several archaic features of Malayalam.” - David Dean Shulman (linguist)
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"The preservation of many early linguistic features in Malayalam and the altered reflections of those features in Tamil point to the differentiation between the East coast (Tamil area) and the West coast (Malayalam area)” - A. Govindankutty Menon (linguist)
The Earliest extant Kerala literary works refers to Kerala as the Crown of Bharata (i.e Indian subcontinent) in which the Keralites from Kolavishaya (Kolathunadu) to Velavishaya (Venadu) as conducting trade among the Foreign Traders from abroad and south India referred to as Cheenas (Chinese), Yonakas (Middle-Easterners), Thulukkas (Thurukshas), Kannadas (Karnata), Chozhiyas (Chola), Pandiyas (Pandya) etc in the marketplace of the prominent cities of the Kerala-Country (i.e Keraladesha) referred to as 'Male or Malabar' by the Foreign Travelers since the 6th Century C.E in the historical accounts or as 'Kerala' in the various Sanskrit literary works of ancient India.
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For Example: Raghuvamsha - Kalidasa - 5th Century C.E - "....Kerala yoshitham alakeshu... - meaning - "the locks of curled hair of the Kerala women"
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Only Kerala has the richest and longest history of Manipravalam and the 14th century treatise Lilatilakam, the only descriptive meta-text on Maniparavalam defines it as the union of Sanskrit and Kerala-Bhasha (i.e Malayalam) as opposed to the union of Sanskrit with Pandya, Chola, Andhra or other regional south Indian languages.
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Sakala phalasamriddhyai keralanaam prathaapam periya parashuramasyaajnjaaya yathra nithyam kanivodu mazha kaalam paarthupaarthar bhakaanaam janani mulakoduppaan ennapole varunnu” - Manipravalam (Malayalam-Sanskrit) - Candrotsavam (15th century C.E)
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The term 'Ketalaputo, Damira, Bambbana, Raya, Vanna etc' in the local north Indian literary works or Prakrit inscriptions since the 3rd century B.C are the phonetic modifications of the Sanskrit word 'Keralaputra, Dramida, Brahmana, Raja, Varna etc' in history just as the term 'Seralam, Tamizhakam, Parppanar, Arasar, Sathi etc' in the local Hindu, Jain and Buddhist mythology of Tamil Nadu now called as 'Sangam Literature' (i.e purananuru, akananuru, silapathikaram, manimegalai etc) as dated between the 8th century C.E and 13th Century C.E by numerous historians are the phonetic modification of the Sanskrit word 'Kerala, Dramidaka, Brahmana, Raja, Jathi etc' in history.
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The Sanskrit term 'Braahmana' is written as 'Paarppana' in the Oldest Tamil Nadu literary work Tholkappiyam as attested by the Tamil Nadu historians themselves and similarly, the Oldest Tamil Nadu grammatical and mythological literary works (ex. tholkappiyam, purananuru, silapathikaram, divya prabandham, periyapuranam etc) as dated between 8th Century C.E and 13th Century C.E by numerous scholars refers to various castes or 'Saathi' in Tamil (i.e Jaathi in Sanskrit) in which it specifically refers to the Paarppanaar (Brahmanas) and Arasar (Rajas) or the Uyar-Pirappaalar meaning 'High-Born' as occupying the highest position within the social hierarchy of Tamil Nadu whereas the Tamil Nadu castes such as Vellalar, Kammalar, Maravar, Paraiyar, Pulaiyar, Kuravar, Kallar etc in Tamil Nadu history were referred to as Suthira in Tamil (i.e Shudra in Sanskrit) and as Sandala in Tamil (i.e Chandala in Sanskrit) and as the Izhi-Pirappaalar meaning 'Low-Born' as attested by the Tamil Nadu historians themselves
It is the Europeans beginning with the Portuguese who have referred to the people of Tamil Nadu including their Indentured Labourers as 'Tamuls' (Tamils) after the name of their local language whereas the people of Tamil Nadu or ‘Tamils’ irrespective of caste were referred to as a 'Pandi, Chola, Konga, Thonda' in all of known Indian history including Kerala (Malabar) history in which the large number of Tamils referred to as 'Tamuls' by the Europeans who took refuge in Malabar (Kerala) from Madurai Sultan, Madurai Nayaks etc until the 18th Century C.E or the Tamil Plantation Workers thereafter were collectively referred to as a 'Pandi' by the Matrilineal castes of Kerala (Malabar) including Ezhavas in history (ex. Pandi Pattar, Pandi Vellala, Pandi Ezhava, Pandi Pulaya, Pandi Kurava etc).
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Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521) - “In this land of Malabar (Kerala) from cumbla (kasaragod district) to cape comorin (kanyakumari district), all men use one tongue only which they call Maliama” (i.e Malayalam)
The north indian Prakrit texts refers to the writing scripts of the 'geographical region' of Kerala and Tamil Nadu as 'Damili' after the Sanskrit word 'Dramidi' and ‘Dravidalipi since the 3rd Century B.C whereas the term 'Tamili' or 'Tamil-Brahmi' is just a modern term as concocted by scholars in the 20th century for an older variety of scripts as now discovered from Tamil Nadu and Kerala which closely resemble Ashokan Brahmi inscriptions.
The literary works of tamil nadu now called as 'sangam literature's' by modern scholars as found written in a mixture of Tamil script, Grantha script and Telugu script which refers to the kings and regions of Kerala (i.e seralam in tamil) and numerous other chieftains of the mountainous tracts and elsewhere in Tamil Nadu region such as Andiran, Nandan, Pekan, Nalli, Ori, Kari etc are not historical documents or historical figures but a collection of Hindu, Jain and Buddhist mythology of Tamil Nadu as written in Tamil language between 8th century C.E and 13th century C.E. (ex. pattitrupattu, purananuru, agananuru, silapathikaram, manimegalai etc) as per several historians whereas the oldest Kannada literature is dated to the 9th century C.E , and the oldest Telugu literature is dated to the 11th century C.E, and the oldest Malayalam literature is dated to the 12th century C.E.
The Dravidian languages of Malayalam, Tamil, Tulu, Kannada, Telugu etc including the Tribal Languages (ex. Irula, Kurumba etc) are all emerging from a Proto-Dravidian language meaning an undocumented common spoken language in pre-history as attested by all linguists today.
മലയാള സാഹിത്യം ഒരുപാട് ഇഷ്ട്ടം ജീവിതത്തിന്റെ ഭാഷ. മനുഷ്യ ജീവിതത്തെ ഏറെ സ്വാധീനിക്കാൻ കഴിയും സാഹിത്യത്തിന്.
this version of malayalam language.this vedio help to BA malayalam students and higher education in Malayalam.this vedio is strongest revolution in the malayalam education
Why the Malayalam history starts from 13th century RamaCharitham??? What about the period before 13th Century? What about those who lived before 13th Century in Kerala?
We have thousands of old malayalam Cheppedugal available before 13th Century... Why you are not mentioning about those?
What about "Thiruvalla Cheppedukal" , "Tharisapalli Plates" and "Kandiyur inscriptions"??? have you heard about those ??? Don't they belongs to Kerala???
they spoke tamil before 13th century
The inscriptions of Kerala pre-13th century are in Old Malayalam and Sanskrit. "The preservation of many early linguistic features in Malayalam and the altered reflections of those features in Tamil point to the differentiation between the East coast language (Tamil) and the West coast language (Malayalam)” - A. Govindankutty Menon
For Example:
“Swasthi Sree…Ramar thiruvadi koyiladhikaarikalaayina sree kulashekhara chakravarthikal kurakkeni kollaththu panankaavin koyilakathirunnu aruliya naal ariyarodu vanna virodhathinu prayaschitham…..” - Royal Order of Ramavarma Kulashekharan (12th century C.E) - Kollam rameshwaram Inscription - source: Indian antiquary
“Swasthi Sree…Purakizhanaadu moothakooru vazhumavar vannu thiruvadiye thozhuthaal moonnaazhiyaal aayiranaazhi ari koduthu irayippikkadavar….” - Royal Order of Bhaskara Ravi Varman (11th century C.E) - Thirunelli Inscription - source: Indian antiquary
“Malabar (i.e Malayalam Country) is a great province lying towards the west of the province of Bandi (i.e Pandya) and the people here have a language of their own, and a king of their own, and pay tribute to nobody.”- Marco Polo (13th century C.E).
@@Nithin90 old Malayalam is middle tamil. Before that old Tamil
@Akmal Hk If that is your logic. Then sl Tamil dialect should be totally different language. There are differences in one language best example Kannada. Kannada spoken in north Karnataka is different from south Karnataka. Tamil itself has 13 variations. Also cheras are from kongunad not from Malabar region.
The inscriptions of Kerala as dated between the 9th century C.E and 12th Century C.E is referred to as 'Old Malayalam' by linguists because the inscriptions of Kerala as dated between the 13th century C.E and 16th century C.E shows linguistic continuity with minimal differences hence it is termed as 'Middle Malayalam' by linguists. There were common/similar words in all the Dravidian languages of India including the Tribal Languages (ex. Irula, Kurumba etc) in history as they are all emerging from a Proto-Dravidian language meaning an undocumented common spoken language in pre-history as attested by all linguists today.
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Malayalam language (i.e Keralabhasha) is just as old and classical as any other Dravidian languages including Tamil hence the phonology and vocabulary of Keralites to this very day are found in the Oldest mythological literary works and inscriptions of Tamil Nadu (ex. njan, njandu, thudangi, pettu, aliyan, achan etc) as the grammatical principles of Malayalam language (i.e Keralabhasha) was contrasting from the ‘Tamizh’ of the inhabitants of Tamil Nadu referred to as 'Pandi, Chozha, Konga' in Kerala history due to the phonological and morphological differences between the regional languages of the East and West of the Ghats mountain ranges since known history. (Ex. Njan in Malayalam is Nan in Tamil)
Guys malayalam is not daughter or sister language of tamizh. They are also tamizhan who used more sanskrit words. That's it
Genetic researchers said tamizh and malayalee people have same skeleton structure.
Chera, pandiya, chola they are united and very strong in 2000 year ago, so only maurya or ashoka kingdom can't able to touch Tamizhagam...
Sister language becoz the mother of tamil and malayalam is sen tamil
Tamil is a separate language Without Sanskrit, Tamil also runs 🔥
@@sidharthponnangan2726 running or not running...!there are influence of other language in every language.Influence of sanskrit is common language as the ancient classical language.
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Appadiyillaye enna pola tamil aarvalargal samarkirudham kalapillama dhaan Tamil pesurom 🙄
@@sidharthponnangan2726 unne niyye tamil arvalar nu sonna ...nangenna gumm..nu irukanuma...
Paccha Malayalam is true malayalam and the purest Malayalam ...
It is wrong to say Malayalam is combination of Sanskrit and evolved Chera Tamil ...
For eg if you remove Sanskrit from Malayalam,the sentence will entirely remain Malayalam..But if you remove Dravidian element from Malayalam the sentence will not remain as malayalam but Sanskrit..
Most of the Malayali population do not know or do not believe their Tamil origin.
The major reason is that they are not taught the correct history in school. History of Kerala and history of Malayalam Language is falsified with plenty of wrong informations.
According to the historians from Kerala and as per their records, the history of Kerala starts from around 9th - 10th century AD. The history of Malayalam language starts from around 13th - 14th century AD. Anything before that period is a mystery to the Malayali population. No one knows who lived in Kerala before 10th century and what language they spoke. It is so surprising to see that one of the highly literate state is doing so poor when it comes to their own history.
The funniest part is that, some people still argue that Malayalam is a sister language to Tamil and both came from a common ancestor not realising which language was the mother of Malayalam. Also, no one knows the history of Chera people who were the actual ancestors of entire Kerala population (excluding the migrants).
@Prophet Bomb Let me explain how they were deprived of their own history.
Below are the things Malayalis are not taught or completely not aware of, even though these are are all very much part of their ancient past.
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They were made to believe that the mother of the Malayalam language was some prototype ancient language instead of Tamil - There are multiple claims that Malayalam evolved from a proto-dravidian language. But, no one realises that the proto-dravidian language itself was ancient Tamil.
😊😊 I see many claims from some of the Malayali friends that the old Tamil and the middle Tamil and the Modern Tamil are very different. Just for all of your info, Tamil is still following the same grammar which was defined during the first millennium BC. There is no diversion here.
😊😊 It is still the same language unchanged grammatically. There could be new words added during the modern era due to the modern usage. But, still the old word is used.
😊😊 The Sangam literature and the Pre-Sangam period grammar is still relevant and that is the core even today. So there is no question of old, middle or new. It’s just the continuation of the same language for the last three millenniums
😊😊 They are not aware about, into which language Sanskrit words were added desperately and that created Malayalam language - As per Kerala's recorded history, Malayalam was born From the Manipravalam form. At least everyone in Kerala agrees to this.
👍👍👍 Now, let’s see what is Manipravalam? Manipravalam മണിപ്രവാളം/ மணிப்ரவாளம் / மணிஇடைபவழம் நடை was a literary style used in medieval liturgical texts in ancient Thamizhagam.
👍👍 All must note here that Only when Tamil and Sanskrit is mixed, Manipravalam style of literature is born. not anything else. Mani-pravalam literally means ruby-coral, where Mani means ruby in Sanskrit while Pravalam means Coral in Tamil. Sanskrit is referred to as ruby and Tamil as coral.
😊😊 Now, you can do the simple math yourself and find out sanskrit got mixed with which language? So, it clearly suggests that Tamil was language which got mixed with Sanskrit, thus creating Malayalam.
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They are not at all aware what was the early native language’s grammar structure before Sanskritization - One must remember that any non-sanskrit words in Malayalam have their own grammar which has been followed in Tamil for centuries even before Sanskit was developed as an advanced language.
😊😊 For an example we have a word called “Noottaandugal”/ നൂറ്റാണ്ടുകൾ / நூற்றாண்டுகள் . When Nooru + aandugal joins together, the word Noottaandugal is derived. As per Tamil grammar there are three rules/formulas applied when adding the two words Nooru + aandugal and to convert into Noottaandugal as one single word. This was defined in Tamil well before Sanskit came to Kerala.
😊😊 So, is it possible to find the root words from Malayalam’s perspective for the Malayalam word “Iruunnalledathu”/ ഇരുന്നള്ളേടത്തു ? I am sure with Tamil grammar, we can still break this word in to the actual root words and we can say what rule can be applied and how this can be formed into one single word. Give it a try.
👍👍 Not aware of the glorious Sangam period literature (From 300 BC to 300 AD) and not taught about any of the kerala’s ancient Chera author’s literary works - Sangam literature talks about ancient Kerala (Chera Nadu) and recorded the life of ancient Chera people and their lives in many of its works. No one is aware of that. And it is surprising to see that some people claiming that Sangam literature never existed.
👍👍 This makes me laugh sometimes, because these are the people who cant believe the hundreds of ancient songs mentioning ancient kerala in detail and at the same time these are the people who tell others that Kerala was created by throwing an Axe.
😊😊😊 Not taught about the ancient Chera Tamil Landscapes - The entire Chera country (Today’s Kerala) was classified into “Thinnai”s according to the Sangam period Tamil landscapes (Kurinji, Mullai, Marudham, Neidhal, Palai).
Even today, we can see that In Kerala, many places named after the ancient Tamil Landscapes.
😊😊😊 I don't think anyone has any idea about this either.
Not aware why the ancient temples and ancient villages, Towns, Cities are starting with the Tamil honorific prefix “Thiru” and also Not aware why the names of ancient villages, Towns, Cities ending with “Oor” or “Peroor”- Just for an example, Thrissur - Thrissur's Old name was “Thiru Siva Peroor”. (Peroor means Periya + oor in Tamil).
👍👍 No one uses Periya in Malayalalam. Instead they use Valliya. If Periya is not a word in Malayalam, then how did Thrissur, the cultural city of Kerala got the Tamil name Periya Oor? Also, Thiru is used extensively in almost all ancient places with ancient Temples.
😊😊😊 So, this means that Kerala’s ancient past was Tamil and all the places in Kerala before tenth century were named as per Tamil prefixes and suffixes.
😊😊 Not aware of the ancient Tamil-Brahmi scripts even though many ancient artefacts found from Kerala were written in Tamil-Brahmi - I see that many from Kerala claim that the Brahmi letters came from north to South and also, they do not accept the fact that the ancient Brahmi letters found in Kerala were Tamil.
👍👍👍 I would like to pinpoint something here. From the Adichanallur archeology sites, archeologists unearthed many pots with Tamil-Brahmi letters in it. They belong to 500 BC which is roughly 200 years before Ashoka’s edicts. So, and the first one to introduce the Brahmi letters in India were Tamils.
😊😊 Please see, Newly discovered Brahmi inscription decipheredNot aware of Kerala's ancient Buddhism and Jainism past - The entire Kerala was a Buddhist country 2000 years back and the Jains and the buddhists lived side by side.
😊😊 As per the current corrupt historians of Kerala, the History of Kerala starts only after 10th century, hence, there is no way that Malayalis will come to know about their Buddhist past and their Jain past.
😊😊 (for all the people who deny their actual history, please check who was Karumadi Kuttan in kerala’s history and how did he ended up in the nearby stream and who damaged him and threw him there thousand years back.
👍👍👍 Check the following links for your reference.Karumadikkuttan - Wikipedia , Jainism in Kerala - Wikipedia , Neelamperoor Palli Bhagavathi Temple - Wikipedia . There are so many proofs in kerala.
Anyone can do their own simple research to find out more.Not aware of ancient Epics originated in Kerala 2000 years back- There were so many sangam period songs written in Tamil which talks about Kerala’s ancient past.
None of that is taught to the Malayali younger generations.
👍👍👍 Also, no historians is interested in looking at it as they firmly believes that the Kerala’s history starts only after 10th century AD.
😊😊 Not knowing who Kannagi was. Even though Kodungallur temple and Attukal temples are dedicated to Kannagi and not aware why Chilambu is so sacred in Kerala tradition - Kannagi is a Tamil women who lived 2000 years back and she is the central character of the Tamil epic Chilapathikaram / Silapathikaram which was written in Kerala by a Cheran author Illango adigal.
😊😊😊 She has been considered as a god in the Tamil country for the past 2000 years. As kerala was a Tamil buddhist country at that time, she was elevated to a goddess status in buddhism and kerala buddhist people started worshipping her. This has spread into the nearby buddhist country Srilanka and Srilankan buddhists also started worshiping Kannagi as Pattini Devi.
👍👍The Sirlankan Tamils worship her as Kannagi Amman. The Tamils from Tamilnadu has many temples for Kannagi and she is worshipped even today as Amman. (The Amman with chilambu in hand).
😊😊 Malayalis worship her as Kodungallur Bagavathy and Aattukal Devi. Also, kannagi’s Chilambu is so sacred in many temples in kerala.
😊😊😊 The Velichappadu concept and the Bharani celebrations are all for Kannagi only. But, unfortunately the Kerala historians had other plans and Kannagi is not known in kerala history after 10th century AD. Her name has been changed post that.
😊😊 All the above points are not to criticise the Malayali community as a whole for not knowing their history. It is just to create an awareness and to point out that how ill informed they are about their own history.
😊😊😊 I see my Malayali brothers as the Jack Nicholson’s of India who were cheated by their own kings and Rulers and historians for more than 8 centuries now.
😊😊 So, to answer this question once again, Not knowing their Tamil origin is not their mistake.
😊😊 Blacking out Kerala’s history was a well planned conspiracy plotted by the migrants who came to Kerala and started ruling the country independently from the end of 12th century onwards.
@Prophet Bomb see this video in malayalam
th-cam.com/video/DldqmpGViKc/w-d-xo.html
Only one Tamil.
Which may be changed due to evolutions?
@@sabarieesan4006 if hindi clans are hegemonistic
Tamil clan are fanatics
Kerala has its own history and language .. may be at a same point of time the languages were similar. Say it was proto dravidian .. and from that language all south indian languages evolved .. tamil fanatics say it was tamil and tamil is the mother of all languages
.. it's bulshit concept
Now modern malayalam is influenced by proto dravida, sanskrit, portuguese, arabic, dutch.and also lot of chinese words
Yes, Malayalam has vocabularies borrowed from Sanskrit and other languages. That applies to other languages as well. As a language, Malayalam stands on its own with its unique features.
@@josephpendleton4927 It is derived from middle tamil
@@cotter266 Malayalam is not derived from Middle Tamil. That is just mainstream propaganda.
Grammatical structures of Malayalam are very different from Tamil.
Malayalam had at least forms of 4 present tenses since ancient times. This is not found in Old Tamil.
In Old Tamil, there were only past and non past tenses. Present tense and Future tense "started" appearing only in Middle Tamil.
David Dean Schulman (the author of the book "Tamil") points out that there has been a wrong tendency among historical linguists to think that Malayalam was diverged directly from Tamil.
“There has been a tendency among historical linguists to think of Malayalam as having diverged directly from Tamil (the Tamil is spoken from the ancient times in what is today Kerala), perhaps as late as the thirteenth century. But this view is almost certainly wrong. Tamil and Malayalam must have separated from one another at a much earlier stage perhaps around the first millennium AD, as we can see from the several surviving archaic features of Malayalam." David Dean Shulman, author of Tamil (page 6) - A Biography, The Belkman's Press of Harvard University Press, 2016.
Historically speaking, Malayalam (also known as Malabar language) was the only language of Old Malabar. In 15th century and 16th century, Malabar (also known as Old Malabar) refers to the region from Kumbla (located 11 Km north of Kasargod, a town in Today’s Kerala) to Cape Comorin (Kanyakumari which is now in Today’s Tamil Nadu).
Portuguese Explorer and Writer Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521) points out that the land of Malabar begins from the place called Cumbola (Kumbla) and it ends at Cape of Comorin (Kanyakumari) and all men use one tongue only which they call “Maliama” (that is Malayalam). Malayazhma and Malayayma are variants of Malayalam. (Book “The Book of Duarte Barbosa: An Account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, written by Duarte Barbosa and completed about the Year 1518 A.D.” by Mansel Longworth Dames, Vol. 2, Pg. 1-7).
During the time of Portuguese Explorer and Writer Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521),Tamil was spoken in the kingdom of Narsyngua. Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521) points out that the Kingdom of Narsyngua (The extensive Hindu Kingdom of Vijayanagar was known to Portuguese as Narsinga from the name of ruling Raja at the time of Vasco Da Gama’s first arrival in India. His name was Narasinha or Narsingha.) is so great that it had five vast provinces, each with its own language. The first of these extends along the coast as far as Malabar, and this they call Tolinate (Tulu-nada), another in the back-country behind it, which they call Danseam Rayen. The next which marches with the kingdom of Narsyngua proper, is called Telingu (Telugu); then the city of Bisnaga (Vijayanagar) itself, which they call Canarim (Kannada), and the kingdom of Charamandel (Coromandel), where the language is Tamul (Tamil). (Book “The Book of Duarte Barbosa: An Account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, written by Duarte Barbosa and completed about the Year 1518 A.D.” by Mansel Longworth Dames, Vol. 1, Pg. 182-184).
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இந்தியா முழுவதும் பரவி இருந்த ஒரே மொழி தமிழ் பிற்காலத்தில் வந்த ஆரிய பார்ப்பனர்கள் ஆதி பழமையான தமிழை நடைமாற்றிட சமஸ்கிருத மொழியை புகுத்தியதன் விளைவாகவும் இடைச்செருகல் சூழ்ச்சியாலும் நெடுந்தூரம் பயணம் செய்த மொழி தொடர்பை இழந்து தெலுங்கு கன்னடம் மலையாளம் துளு ஆகிய மொழிகளாக உருமாறியது இவை அனைத்தும் ஒரே மொழி தமிழ் ஈன்ற மொழிகளே
The word tamil itself came thammil(in between) which in other words, a language used to communicate between two or more people.. Malayalam without sanskrit is pure tamizh..
Sanskrit ot Tamil? Which is ancient?
1) Tamil is the mother tongue of a very large group of people in the Indian subcontinent. Sanskrit is the mother tongue of no ethnic group.
2) Sanskrit does not have a script of its own. It was earlier written in brahmi.
3) According to Jyoti Basu & Ambedkar, Tamil was spoken all over the Indian subcontinent. Immigration of foreigners like afghans, aryans (central Asians), west Asians, persians, Greeks, Romans etc into this subcontinent for purposes of invasion & trade, led to mixing of their languages with tamil in a very minor manner and produced all other current languages like marathi, bengali, hindi, malayalam, kannada, punjabi etc. The permanent immigrants like aryans lost their original language & spoke tamil with very minor influence from their original languages.
4) Prakrit (baagatham in tamil) means "original" & refers to the vast tamil language spoken in various regions with various accents, various set of words & various grammatical structures but later evolved into different languages due to mixing with foreign languages.
5) Prakrit was refined for worship purpose & later used for literature. That was how sanskrit was born.
shyamala hariharan you are wrong. How can malayalam without Sanskrit be tamil?? There are many words in Malayalam which is neither tamil nor Sanskrit. Do some research. I think you are not from Kerala..
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Sanskrit is from ancient tamil.
Victor P wth you mean. Don’t tell foolishness. Do some research and talk. Sanskrit is not from tamil. Both are different.
@@Truthholder345
1) Tamil is the mother tongue of a very large group of people in the Indian subcontinent. Sanskrit is the mother tongue of no ethnic group.
2) Sanskrit does not have a script of its own. It was earlier written in brahmi.
3) According to Jyoti Basu & Ambedkar, Tamil was spoken all over the Indian subcontinent. Immigration of foreigners like afghans, aryans (central Asians), west Asians, persians, Greeks, Romans etc into this subcontinent for purposes of invasion & trade, led to mixing of their languages with tamil in a very minor manner and produced all other current languages like marathi, bengali, hindi, malayalam, kannada, punjabi etc. The permanent immigrants like aryans lost their original language & spoke tamil with very minor influence from their original languages.
4) Prakrit (baagatham in tamil) means "original" & refers to the vast tamil language spoken in various regions with various accents, various set of words & various grammatical structures but later evolved into different languages due to mixing with foreign languages.
5) Prakrit was refined for worship purpose & later used for literature. That was how sanskrit was born.
Malayalam IS a separate language. Thinking otherwise is hubris. It has evolved from two great ancient languages. Tamil with a lot of influence from Sanskrit. It has its own script and grammar. To not see the worth of another language and dismiss it as a 'dialect' is blind chauvinism of the first order.
attitudego i am confused.some kerala people say we dont speak MANKALISH(kerala language malayalam +english).speak suddha (pure)malayalam.
why should remove only ENGLISH from malayalam.must be remove தமிழ்(TAMIL),SANSKRIT,PORTHUGIZU from malayalam.then only we call malayalam is sperate language.some one telling தமிழ் just make ur qn(?) clearly we can answer perfectly about தமிழ். :)
shadow light So Tamil is perfectly evolved indigenously without any outside influence. eh.. ok. But most languages in the world have taken loan words from other languages. So according to you, English, german french etc are just dialects of latin. k.. Whatever rocks your boat man.
attitudego Tamil is not influence other languages.தமிழ் always its own stand
"Tamil(தமிழ்) constitutes the only literary tradition indigenous to india that is not derived from sanskrit.indeed its literature arose before the influence of sanskrit in the south became strong and so. is
qualitatively different
from anything we have sanskrit or other indian languages.(தமிழ்)it has OWN poetic theory.its OWN grammatical tradition....this article from Professor George L.Hart.Dean of Linguistics in the university of Berkeley.california)
Tamil is seprate languge.its active with out any other influence.or loan words.
Malayalam is not seprate language.if u remove english ,sanskrit,tamil from malayalam is not operate.because its live loan words or influence.its NOT OWN stand.this is fact.i am not aginst any languages.but this is fact. :)
Not against any languages but putting down others and blowing your own trumpet. :P
As I said earlier, Tamil is a great language. But that does not mean that other languages should be considered second class. Different languages develop differently.
Please dont be chauvinistic. Its either shows insecurity or a rabid superiority complex. Dont compare languages. Its not language but content that matters.
Peace.
Nithin90 hello brother is not jeevaka chinthamani its "ceevaga chinthamani" cee not jee.
"aga nanooru, purananooru, kurunthogai, inkurunooru, pathupattu, pathithu patchu..these all tamil literature's in tamil name.
Agasthiya is not related with tamil language.
Tamil and sanskrit are old languages in this country.
മലയാള ഭാഷ കേൾക്കാൻ തന്നെ ഒരു പ്രത്യേകതയാണ് സന്തോഷമായി
The land of 'Kerala or Keralajanapadha or Keralaputhra' in Indian history since the 3rd Century B.C to 12th Century C.E referred to as Malayalam, Malanadu, Malamandalam etc in Kerala history after the Sanskrit word 'Malaya' as denoting the western ghats did not consist of any region east of the Ghats or the region of Tamil Nadu once referred to as 'Kongu-Nadu, Pandi-Nadu, Chola-Nadu etc' in Indian history hence the 1st century and 2nd century European travelers specifically refers to the capital of Keralaputhra as situated 20 stadia (3 km) inland from the sea-coast or in present day Kerala.
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The kings of Kerala are referred to as belonging to the Keralakula (i.e Kerala-Dynasty) in the Oldest Sanskrit works of Kerala as the sovereign of Kerala was titled as ‘Keralaputhra’ in Sanskrit since the 3rd Century B.C and similarly Yakshan Keralan, Godha Keralan, Kerala Narayanan, Keralan Srikumaran etc are the various other personal names of Keralites as present in the Oldest Inscriptions of Kerala in Old Malayalam since the 9th century C.E as the Kerala-Country and its capital was under the dominion of the Naaduvaazhikal (i.e vallabhapattanam king, mahodhayapattanam king, kolambhapattanam king etc) as attested by native records and foreign travelers including Al-Biruni since the 11th century C.E
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For Example: "Malabar (i.e Malayalam Country) is a great province lying towards the west 'of the province of Bandi (i.e Pandya)' and the people here have a language of their own and a king of their own and pay tribute to nobody." - Marco Polo (13th century C.E).
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It is accepted by Tamil Nadu scholars that the Sanskrit term 'Chola' was written as 'SoRa' in the various Tamil inscriptions of the Chola-Dynasty and similarly, the 'Kerala' kings were referred to as 'SeRa' in the inscriptions of the Invaders from Tamil Nadu until the 12th century C.E as the term 'Sera or Seralan' in Tamil is the transliteration of 'Kerala' in Sanskrit whereas the term 'Pandi or Pandiyan' in Tamil is the transliteration of 'Pandya' in Sanskrit as the term 'Sora or Soran' in Tamil is the transliteration of 'Chola' in Sanskrit hence the land of Kerala was referred to as Cheraman-Nadu, Cheraman-Loka, Chera-Bhumi etc in Kerala records itself.
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For Example: "...sarvam eve anupashyata tathaiva Andhran cha Pundran cha Cholan, Pandyan, Keralan." - Valmiki Ramayanam - Kishkindha Kanda
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The 7th century to 12th century inscriptions of Tamil Nadu refers to multiple Pandya kings and Chola kings as having invaded the region of “Malainadu or Kerala” and the Tamil Nadu king Raja Raja Chola (985 C.E -1014 C.E) in his inscriptions on the conquest of Kerala claims that his army invaded the country which was the Creation Of Parashurama (Kerala) and plundered the town of Vizhinjam, Kollam, Kodungallur etc which itself shows that the land of Kerala was known as the Parashurama Kshetra (i.e creation of parashurama) among even the non-keralites in history.
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The ancient European travelers of the 1st and 2nd century C.E have referred to the geographical region of North India or the land between Himalaya mountains and Vindhya mountains as 'Ariaca' after the Sanskrit word 'Aryaka' (i.e Aryadesha) whereas they referred to the geographical region of Kerala (i.e Keralaputhra) as 'Damirica' after the Sanskrit word 'Dramidaka' (i.e Dramidadesha) meaning the southernmost region of Bharata (i.e Indian subcontinent) hence the Oldest literary works and inscriptions of Kerala itself refers to the geographical region of Kerala as 'Dramida' in which the city of Mahodayapuram (i.e Makkothayarpattanam in Old Malayalam) or Thiruvanchikulam (i.e Srianjanakhalam in Sanskrit) or Muyirikodu (muziris) in Old Malayalam as situated on the banks of the river Periyar (i.e Mahanadhi, Choorni etc in Sanskrit) was the capital of the Kerala king titled as 'Keraladhinatha' in Sanskrit or 'Cherabhumishvara' in Malayalam (i.e Keralabhasha).
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For Example: "Keralaanaam dramida shabdhavaachythvaad apabhramshena tadbhaasha tamizh ithyuchyathe" - Lilathilakam - Meaning - "The language of Kerala is known as Tamizh in the vernacular through the phonetic modification of the word Dramida."
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The term 'Tamizhakam' in the Tamil grammar Tolkapiyam itself is the transliteration of 'Dramidaka' in Sanskrit and not denoting a single culture or language or kingdom or history but a common geographical region as consisting of KL and TN thereby the author has recognised 12 regional dialects in which 5 dialects are pertaining to Kerala and 7 dialects are pertaining to Tamil Nadu just as the Tamil grammar Nannul of the 13th century hence the Kerala records have also differentiated the language of Dramida (i.e Tamizh) into Pandyabhasha (pandi language), Cholabhasha (chola language) and Keralabhasha (malayalam language) in history.
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The inscriptions of Kerala as dated between the 9th century C.E and 12th Century C.E is referred to as 'Old Malayalam' by linguists because the inscriptions of Kerala as dated between the 13th century C.E and 16th century C.E shows linguistic continuity with minimal differences hence it is termed as 'Middle Malayalam' by linguists.Malayalam language (i.e Keralabhasha) is just as old and classical as any other Dravidian languages including Tamil hence the phonology and vocabulary of Keralites to this very day are found in the Oldest mythological literary works and inscriptions of Tamil Nadu (ex. njan, njandu, thudangi, pettu, aliyan, achan etc) as the grammatical principles of Malayalam language (i.e Keralabhasha) was contrasting from the ‘Tamizh’ of the inhabitants of Tamil Nadu due to the phonological and morphological differences between the regional languages of the East and West of the Ghats mountain ranges since known history. (Ex. Njan in Malayalam is Nan in Tamil)
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‘The view that Malayalam as having diverged from Tamil is certainly wrong, as we can see from the several archaic features of Malayalam.” - David Dean Shulman
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"The preservation of many early linguistic features in Malayalam and the altered reflections of those features in Tamil point to the differentiation between the East coast (Tamil area) and the West coast (Malayalam area)” - A. Govindankutty Menon
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The terms 'Tamizh, Naazhi, Pazham, Pavizham, Makizham etc' in Old Malayalam are all derived from the Sanskrit words 'Dramida, Naadi, Phala, Pravala, Makula etc' as such phonetic modifications or transliterations of Sanskrit words are present in all the Dravidian languages since known literary history and similarly, the terms 'Ketala, Choda, Pada' etc in the Ashoka Edicts of the 3rd Century B.C in Prakrit language are the transliterations of the Sanskrit word 'Kerala, Chola, Pandya' etc as attested by all linguists today.
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The terms Cherakon (i.e Keralakularaaja in Sanskrit), Kunnalakon (i.e Shailabdhishvara in Sanskrit), Valluvakon (i.e Vallabhakshoni in Sanskrit), Piraamanar (i.e Brahmana in Sanskrit) etc as found in Old Malayalam and Middle Malayalam inscriptions and literary works are NOT denoting the people of Tamil Nadu or 'Tamilans' irrespective of caste referred to as a 'Pandi, Chola, Konga, Thonda' in all of known Indian history but the people of Kerala referred to as 'Keralar' and 'Malayalar' alone in Indian history.
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For Example:
The kings of Kerala were referred to as 'Malayala Thiruvadi' in the inscription of South India as dated to the 13th Century C.E while the kings of Tamil Nadu were referred to as Pandya and Chola in the same inscription of the Kakatiya Dynasty of South India because the people of Tamil Nadu now known as 'Tamilans' were referred to as a 'Pandi, Chola, Konga, Thonda' in all of known Indian history including Kerala literary works until the 14th Century C.E while the people of Kerala including the Kings were referred to as 'Keralar' and 'Malayalar' alone in Indian history.
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The region of modern Tamil Nadu as consisting of dharmapuri, salem, coimbatore etc as comprising of an earlier independent territorial unit known as ‘Kongu-Nadu’ were under their local chieftains referred to as 'Adiya or Adiyaman' until the 12th Century C.E in Indian history whereas it is the land of Kerala as comprising of the independent territorial unit known as ‘Malayalam’ or 'Malabar' who were under the local chieftains referred to as ‘Chera or Cheraman’ until the 12th century C.E in Indian history.
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For Example: "The pagans (Hindus) of Malabar (Kerala) believes that a king (i.e a King of Kerala or Cheraman) had once ascended up to heaven and they continue to expect his descent therefore they assemble at cranganore (Kodungallur) and keep ready there wooden sandals, water and adorn the place with lamps and decorations on a certain night of the year" - Tuhfat al Mujahidin (16th Century C.E)
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The Dravidian languages of Malayalam, Tamil, Tulu, Kannada, Telugu etc including the Tribal Languages (ex. Irula, Kurumba etc) as consisting of common/similar words are all emerging from a Proto-Dravidian language meaning an undocumented common spoken language in pre-history as attested by all linguists today hence there are places with common names in Kerala and Tamil Nadu even today (ex. Thondi, Musiri etc) thus it doesn't mean that the places of Kerala or 'Keralaputhra' referred to as Tyndis, Muziris etc by the travelers in the past were referring to the settlement of the people of Tamil Nadu or ‘Tamilans’ referred to as a 'Pandi, Chola, Konga, Thonda' in all of known Indian history including Kerala literary works until the 14th Century C.E but the people of Kerala referred to as ‘Keralar' and 'Malayalar' alone in Indian history.
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For Example:
“Among all the places in the world I have seen none equal to the Port of Alexandria except Kawlam (Kollam in Kerala) and Calicut (Kozhikodu in Kerala) in India” - Ibn Battuta (14th century C.E)
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You are correct malayalam is a separate Language it’s not formed from tamil.
@@Truthholder345 Seperate language lol😂😂😂😂show proof of the proto language
@@cotter266 search it up in google
Please read this without prejudice to udnerstand the truth :
Malayalam is malayalam. Thats it. Say no to language theories. No language can be made by humans by mixing 2-3 languages like chemicals. It only evolves. And no language has any ownership over any words(except scientific and classification terms which would be loaned from the country of origin). If madre is in latin and matr is in sanskrit, the origins might be same but the word belongs to both languages. The similarity could be because the most common word uttered by babies sounds similar to 'maa'. But we don't see any fight over it. Just accespt every language there is and stop the mother of language father of language obsession. Even tmail being oldest language is just a faux theory based on the arguments and historical proofs - but not one but many languages have existed long long ago before it and there might not be proof. Even Tamil is entirely different from proto Dravidian. What happens is tamilians calling proto Dravidian language as Tamil and then claiming legacy(while Tamil and proto Dravidian languages are different). All south indian languages have root in proto Dravidian which also claims legacy from Indus valley civilization. Malayalam evolved with proto Dravidian and Sanskrit roots again tracing back from Indus valley, telugu etc proto Dravidian and Prakrit and Sanskrit roots, Tamil more evolved differently and so on. Resist pandi obsession and say no to such dubious theories. More than 50% malayalees believe in these fake theories propagated by tamilians.
ningal paranjhathu paramsatyam annu
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Tamil... Your mother....malayalis.. 😍
Proud we tamilan
True, but today's Tamil also emerged from the ancient Tamil, which I am sure is also much much different today than that of those times.
If we look at say the Roman languages it emerged from one into two and from the two emerged another two or three and so on and on.... So over 1000 or say 5000 years a language will have changed so much that the original and the recent one will have no relation in comparison.
So the proud we Tamilian I am sure you agree that you cannot understand or speak that Tamil.
sachin n yes bro
sachin n
പഴയ ദ്രാവിഡ ഭാഷക്കു ഈ പാണ്ടികൾ ഇട്ട പേരാണ് പഴയ തമിഴ് എന്ന് .... It should be termed Dravidian not ancient tamil....
I agree.
modern malayalam has connections to many other languages such as portuguese,Dutch . ,tamil,sanskrit,Arabic ,Syrian ,Persian ,Hebrew , in words and has some rare connections with mandarin chinese also, in lakshadweep Arabic script is used instead of Dravidian script to write malayalam language .
Malayalam script has evolved from the Grantha script by incorporating elements of Tigalari script.
തിഗലാരി ലിപിയുടെ ഘടകങ്ങൾ ഉൾപ്പെടുത്തി ഗ്രന്ഥ ലിപിയിൽ നിന്നാണ് മലയാള ലിപി രൂപപ്പെട്ടത്.
❤Malayalam🙏
Good information
Thank you for your class
Do people commenting know what Onam is celebrated for.. And how old Onam is... It is 12000 yrs old when king Bali ruled entire earth..so Malayalam ia that old. So after Sanskrit Malayalam is the oldest and then tamil
Dei moodikittu po da north india ariya nae
@@sabarieesan4006 i understand what u said.. Thats how low your level of civilized behavior is.
@Chachu P nandri.. It is the truth
@Chachu P stay in dreamland
@Chachu P Indian dont know true Indian history.. Dont talk rubbish..
Why would you make the video title and description English, and then have the entire video be in another language?
Because it is easy to search in English than a regional language like Malayalam. And this video is 4 years old. Malayalam typing was not commonly used
Sir, Kerala was one of the 7 janapadas (kingdoms) of Bharata (i.e Indian subcontinent) along with Tulanga (tulu region), Konkana (konkan region) etc that were collectively known as the 'Parashurama Kshetra' (i.e creation of parashurama) and Kerala was one of the 3 janapadas (kingdoms) of Dravidadesha (dravida region) meaning the southernmost region of Bharata (Indian subcontinent) along with Pandya Kingdom and Chola Kingdom as according to the Sanskrit scripture's (i.e Puranas) since known history. : The land of 'Kerala or Keralajanapadha or Keralaputhra' in Indian history since the 3rd Century B.C to 12th Century C.E referred to as Malayalam, Malanadu, Malamandalam etc in Kerala history after the Sanskrit word 'Malaya' as denoting the western ghats did not consist of any region east of the Ghats or the region of Tamil Nadu once referred to as 'Kongu-Nadu, Pandi-Nadu, Chola-Nadu etc' in Indian history hence the 1st century and 2nd century European travelers specifically refers to the capital of Keralaputhra as situated 20 stadia (3 km) inland from the sea-coast or in present day Kerala. : The kings of Kerala are referred to as belonging to the Keralakula (i.e Kerala-Dynasty) in the Oldest Sanskrit works of Kerala as the sovereign of Kerala was titled as ‘Keralaputhra’ in Sanskrit since the 3rd Century B.C and similarly Yakshan Keralan, Godha Keralan, Kerala Narayanan, Keralan Srikumaran etc are the various other personal names of Keralites as present in the Oldest Inscriptions of Kerala in Old Malayalam since the 9th century C.E as the Kerala-Country and its capital was under the dominion of the Naaduvaazhikal (i.e vallabhapattanam king, mahodhayapattanam king, kolambhapattanam king etc) as attested by native records and foreign travelers including Al-Biruni since the 11th century C.E : For Example: "Malabar (i.e Malayalam Country) is a great province lying towards the west 'of the province of Bandi (i.e Pandya)' and the people here have a language of their own and a king of their own and pay tribute to nobody." - Marco Polo (13th century C.E). : It is accepted by Tamil Nadu scholars that the Sanskrit term 'Chola' was written as 'SoRa' in the various Tamil inscriptions of the Chola-Dynasty and similarly, the 'Kerala' kings were referred to as 'SeRa' in the inscriptions of the Invaders from Tamil Nadu until the 12th century C.E as the term 'Sera or Seralan' in Tamil is the transliteration of 'Kerala' in Sanskrit whereas the term 'Pandi or Pandiyan' in Tamil is the transliteration of 'Pandya' in Sanskrit as the term 'Sora or Soran' in Tamil is the transliteration of 'Chola' in Sanskrit hence the land of Kerala was referred to as Cheraman-Nadu, Cheraman-Loka, Chera-Bhumi etc in Kerala records itself. : For Example: "...sarvam eve anupashyata tathaiva Andhran cha Pundran cha Cholan, Pandyan, Keralan." - Valmiki Ramayanam - Kishkindha Kanda : The 7th century to 12th century inscriptions of Tamil Nadu refers to multiple Pandya kings and Chola kings as having invaded the region of “Malainadu or Kerala” and the Tamil Nadu king Raja Raja Chola (985 C.E -1014 C.E) in his inscriptions on the conquest of Kerala claims that his army invaded the country which was the Creation Of Parashurama (Kerala) and plundered the town of Vizhinjam, Kollam, Kodungallur etc which itself shows that the land of Kerala was known as the Parashurama Kshetra (i.e creation of parashurama) among even the non-keralites in history. : The ancient European travelers of the 1st and 2nd century C.E have referred to the geographical region of North India or the land between Himalaya mountains and Vindhya mountains as 'Ariaca' after the Sanskrit word 'Aryaka' (i.e Aryadesha) whereas they referred to the geographical region of Kerala (i.e Keralaputhra) as 'Damirica' after the Sanskrit word 'Dramidaka' (i.e Dramidadesha) meaning the southernmost region of Bharata (i.e Indian subcontinent) hence the Oldest literary works and inscriptions of Kerala itself refers to the geographical region of Kerala as 'Dramida' in which the city of Mahodayapuram (i.e Makkothayarpattanam in Old Malayalam) or Thiruvanchikulam (i.e Srianjanakhalam in Sanskrit) or Muyirikodu (muziris) in Old Malayalam as situated on the banks of the river Periyar (i.e Mahanadhi, Choorni etc in Sanskrit) was the capital of the Kerala king titled as 'Keraladhinatha' in Sanskrit or 'Cherabhumishvara' in Malayalam (i.e Keralabhasha). : For Example: "Keralaanaam dramida shabdhavaachythvaad apabhramshena tadbhaasha tamizh ithyuchyathe" - Lilathilakam - Meaning - "The language of Kerala is known as Tamizh in the vernacular through the phonetic modification of the word Dramida." : The term 'Tamizhakam' in the Tamil grammar Tolkapiyam itself is the transliteration of 'Dramidaka' in Sanskrit and not denoting a single culture or language or kingdom or history but a common geographical region as consisting of KL and TN thereby the author has recognised 12 regional dialects in which 5 dialects are pertaining to Kerala and 7 dialects are pertaining to Tamil Nadu just as the Tamil grammar Nannul of the 13th century hence the Kerala records have also differentiated the language of Dramida (i.e Tamizh) into Pandyabhasha (pandi language), Cholabhasha (chola language) and Keralabhasha (malayalam language) in history. : The inscriptions of Kerala as dated between the 9th century C.E and 12th Century C.E is referred to as 'Old Malayalam' by linguists because the inscriptions of Kerala as dated between the 13th century C.E and 16th century C.E shows linguistic continuity with minimal differences hence it is termed as 'Middle Malayalam' by linguists.Malayalam language (i.e Keralabhasha) is just as old and classical as any other Dravidian languages including Tamil hence the phonology and vocabulary of Keralites to this very day are found in the Oldest mythological literary works and inscriptions of Tamil Nadu (ex. njan, njandu, thudangi, pettu, aliyan, achan etc) as the grammatical principles of Malayalam language (i.e Keralabhasha) was contrasting from the ‘Tamizh’ of the inhabitants of Tamil Nadu due to the phonological and morphological differences between the regional languages of the East and West of the Ghats mountain ranges since known history. (Ex. Njan in Malayalam is Nan in Tamil) : The terms 'Tamizh, Naazhi, Pazham, Pavizham, Makizham etc' in Old Malayalam are all derived from the Sanskrit words 'Dramida, Naadi, Phala, Pravala, Makula etc' as such phonetic modifications or transliterations of Sanskrit words are present in all the Dravidian languages since known literary history and similarly, the terms 'Ketala, Choda, Pada' etc in the Ashoka Edicts of the 3rd Century B.C in Prakrit language are the transliterations of the Sanskrit word 'Kerala, Chola, Pandya' etc as attested by all linguists today. : The terms Cherakon (i.e Keralakularaaja in Sanskrit), Kunnalakon (i.e Shailabdhishvara in Sanskrit), Valluvakon (i.e Vallabhakshoni in Sanskrit), Piraamanar (i.e Brahmana in Sanskrit) etc as found in Old Malayalam and Middle Malayalam inscriptions and literary works are NOT denoting the people of Tamil Nadu or 'Tamilans' irrespective of caste referred to as a 'Pandi, Chola, Konga, Thonda' in all of known Indian history but the people of Kerala referred to as 'Keralar' and 'Malayalar' alone in Indian history. : For Example: The kings of Kerala were referred to as 'Malayala Thiruvadi' in the inscription of South India as dated to the 13th Century C.E while the kings of Tamil Nadu were referred to as Pandya and Chola in the same inscription of the Kakatiya Dynasty of South India because the people of Tamil Nadu now known as 'Tamilans' were referred to as a 'Pandi, Chola, Konga, Thonda' in all of known Indian history including Kerala literary works until the 14th Century C.E while the people of Kerala including the Kings were referred to as 'Keralar' and 'Malayalar' alone in Indian history. : The region of modern Tamil Nadu as consisting of dharmapuri, salem, coimbatore etc as comprising of an earlier independent territorial unit known as ‘Kongu-Nadu’ were under their local chieftains referred to as 'Adiya or Adiyaman' until the 12th Century C.E in Indian history whereas it is the land of Kerala as comprising of the independent territorial unit known as ‘Malayalam’ or 'Malabar' who were under the local chieftains referred to as ‘Chera or Cheraman’ until the 12th century C.E in Indian history. : For Example: "The pagans (Hindus) of Malabar (Kerala) believes that a king (i.e a King of Kerala or Cheraman) had once ascended up to heaven and they continue to expect his descent therefore they assemble at cranganore (Kodungallur) and keep ready there wooden sandals, water and adorn the place with lamps and decorations on a certain night of the year" - Tuhfat al Mujahidin (16th Century C.E) : The Dravidian languages of Malayalam, Tamil, Tulu, Kannada, Telugu etc including the Tribal Languages (ex. Irula, Kurumba etc) as consisting of common/similar words are all emerging from a Proto-Dravidian language meaning an undocumented common spoken language in pre-history as attested by all linguists today hence there are places with common names in Kerala and Tamil Nadu even today (ex. Thondi, Musiri etc) thus it doesn't mean that the places of Kerala or 'Keralaputhra' referred to as Tyndis, Muziris etc by the travelers in the past were referring to the settlement of the people of Tamil Nadu or ‘Tamilans’ referred to as a 'Pandi, Chola, Konga, Thonda' in all of known Indian history including Kerala literary works until the 14th Century C.E but the people of Kerala referred to as ‘Keralar' and 'Malayalar' alone in Indian history. : For Example: “Among all the places in the world I have seen none equal to the Port of Alexandria except Kawlam (Kollam in Kerala) and Calicut (Kozhikodu in Kerala) in India” - Ibn Battuta (14th century C.E).
Did Malayalam spring off the axe of Parasuraman? LOL
There never existed a 'Sangam Era'. The literary works as found from tamil nadu and sri lanka now called as 'sangam literature's' by modern scholars which refers to the kings and regions of Kerala (i.e Sera) are not historical documents but a collection of Hindu, Jain and Buddhist mythology as written in Tamil language between 8th century C.E and 13th century C.E. (ex. pattitrupattu, purananuru, agananuru, silapathikaram, manimegalai etc)
For Example: 'Ilango Adikal' was the brother of 'Senguttuvan' and their father was 'Nedumseralathan', who is said to have conquered all of India until the Himalayas (i.e Imayamalai) and his father 'Uthiyanseralathan' is said to have fed the armies in the Mahabharata war.(ex. Paripadal).
There existed no 'illango adikal, senguttuvan, nedumserlaathan, uthiyanseralaathan etc' in Kerala history during the period of Ptolemy, Pliny or Ashoka's time when the sovereign of Kerala was titled as 'Keralaputhra' in Sanskrit. (Ex.Kerobothros by Ptolemy or Keprobotros by the author of the Periplus or Kaelobothras in Pliny's text or Ketalaputho in the Ashoka Edicts of 3rd century B.C). The term 'Cheraman/Seraman' in Malayalam/Tamil literary history is the transliteration of 'Keralan' in Sanskrit.
For Example: "...sarvam eve anupashyata tathaiva Andhran ca Pundran ca Cholan, Pandyan, Keralan." - Valmiki Ramayanam - Kishkindha Kanda (4-41-12)
The terms 'Tamil, Damila, Dramida etc' as found in the Prakrit literary works and Dravidian literary works including Malayalam (i.e lilathilakam) are the transliteration of 'Dramila/Dravida' in Sanskrit meaning 'adjoining the seas' or the southernmost region of Bharatha (Indian subcontinent) adjoining the ocean as consisting of 'Kerala (chera), Chola (chozha), Pandya (pandi) kingdom' since known literary history hence the ancient Greek travelers/literature refers to the southernmost region of India (indica) as 'Damirica" and the sovereign of Kerala as 'Kerobothras' (i.e Keralaputhra) since antiquity.
The terms ''sangam age' and 'kulashekhara empire' are often used by historians to create an 'historical time period' for the occurrence of the mythological events and kings as relating to the hindu, jain, buddhist mythology as written in Tamil language hence the 'Chera' aka Kerala Kings such as 'Rama Rajashekharan' and 'Sthanu Ravi Varma' in Kerala History are falsely assumed to be the 'Seraman perumal nayanar', a Hindu shaivite king and 'Kulashekhara Azhwar', a Hindu vaishnavite king' of Hindu mythology in Tamil. (i.e divya prabandham, periyapuranam)
For Example: In the traditional Hindu mythology, The Chera aka Kerala king 'Maharaja Kulashekhara' was born on the banks of the river Periyar in Kerala to 'Maharaja Dridhavratha' more than 5000 years ago when the territory as ruled by the Chera aka Kerala king covered the largest portion of Dravidadesha (dravida region) including vast regions of modern Tamil Nadu.
There are several pagodas in erode, coimbatore, thirunelveli etc or modern Tamil Nadu which were once within the territory of the Kerala aka Chera kings in history including kanyakumari district and the royal seat of the 'Keralaputhra' or 'Kerobothros' as per Ptolemy (2nd century C.E) was ‘Karoura’ hence the early historian William Logan (1841-1914) assumed that 'Karoura' of Ptolemy was maybe referring to 'Karur of Coimbatore district in TN' due to the similarity in the names but as per native historians it was the 'Karoor' village in Thrissur district of Kerala or 'Thrikariyoor' (karur) village of Ernakulam district in Kerala itself.
For Example: 'Adiyarkku Nallar' of 12th century C.E in Tamil Nadu also identified in his work, the Kerala aka Chera capital 'Karur' with 'Thiruvanchikulam' (thrissur district) in Kerala Only.
There never existed a 'Sangam Age'. The period of 8th century C.E - 13th century C.E or the period of Jaina influence in Tamil Nadu was when the 'sangam' literature's and grammars were written for Tamil (i.e tholkapiyam) as per several historians whereas the oldest Kannada literature is dated to the 9th century C.E , and the oldest Telugu literature is dated to the 11th century C.E, and the oldest Malayalam literature is dated to the 14th century C.E.
The earliest definitive reference to Malayalam as a separate geolinguistic entity is noted by Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521) quote: “In this land of Malabar (i.e Malayalam Country), all men use one tongue only which they call Maliama” (i.e Malayalam).
There is even an incomplete Old Malayalam literary work called ‘Payyannurppaattu’ as dated to pre-14th century C.E by historians but even this Old Malayalam composition of the Vaniyas or the merchants with little or no Sanskrit derived words does not resemble the language of Tamil Nadu.
For Example:
Naalarkudikku chernnore kondaar annaattil pattina svami makkal thozharpathinaaluvankiriyam tholpippaanilla innaattil aarum kaalepidichizhakkilum njaan kachilpattil vannennikkannurangen - Old Malayalam - Payyannurppaattu (pre-14th century C.E)
Malayalam language (i.e Kerala-Bhasha) is also referred to as ‘Tamizh’ meaning the language of Dramida (i.e Dramidaka) in our Kerala literary works itself but the language of Kerala (i.e Malayalam Country) was grammatically contrasting from the ‘Tamizh’ of the Pandya-Country and Chola-Country or Tamil Nadu due to the phonological and morphological differences between the regional languages of the East and West of the Ghats mountain ranges since known history.
@@Nithin90 again ur saying same.. are... baay google it keralaputhras ate mention in maurya empire books comon tamizha wake up
If there was not namboodri, malayalam language will seem exactly to srilankan Tamil
Similarities Srilankan tamil and malayalam
Pinnai(later,after), paraithal(talk), pandaiya ( once upon) monei,molei (son,daughter) and you can find a lot of words unique in both languages
So malayalis are Tamil. I can understand 90% when someone speak malayalam even i have never been in kerala
Most of the Malayali population do not know or do not believe their Tamil origin.
The major reason is that they are not taught the correct history in school. History of Kerala and history of Malayalam Language is falsified with plenty of wrong informations.
According to the historians from Kerala and as per their records, the history of Kerala starts from around 9th - 10th century AD. The history of Malayalam language starts from around 13th - 14th century AD. Anything before that period is a mystery to the Malayali population. No one knows who lived in Kerala before 10th century and what language they spoke. It is so surprising to see that one of the highly literate state is doing so poor when it comes to their own history.
The funniest part is that, some people still argue that Malayalam is a sister language to Tamil and both came from a common ancestor not realising which language was the mother of Malayalam. Also, no one knows the history of Chera people who were the actual ancestors of entire Kerala population (excluding the migrants).
@Prophet Bomb Let me explain how they were deprived of their own history.
Below are the things Malayalis are not taught or completely not aware of, even though these are are all very much part of their ancient past.
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They were made to believe that the mother of the Malayalam language was some prototype ancient language instead of Tamil - There are multiple claims that Malayalam evolved from a proto-dravidian language. But, no one realises that the proto-dravidian language itself was ancient Tamil.
😊😊 I see many claims from some of the Malayali friends that the old Tamil and the middle Tamil and the Modern Tamil are very different. Just for all of your info, Tamil is still following the same grammar which was defined during the first millennium BC. There is no diversion here.
😊😊 It is still the same language unchanged grammatically. There could be new words added during the modern era due to the modern usage. But, still the old word is used.
😊😊 The Sangam literature and the Pre-Sangam period grammar is still relevant and that is the core even today. So there is no question of old, middle or new. It’s just the continuation of the same language for the last three millenniums
😊😊 They are not aware about, into which language Sanskrit words were added desperately and that created Malayalam language - As per Kerala's recorded history, Malayalam was born From the Manipravalam form. At least everyone in Kerala agrees to this.
👍👍👍 Now, let’s see what is Manipravalam? Manipravalam മണിപ്രവാളം/ மணிப்ரவாளம் / மணிஇடைபவழம் நடை was a literary style used in medieval liturgical texts in ancient Thamizhagam.
👍👍 All must note here that Only when Tamil and Sanskrit is mixed, Manipravalam style of literature is born. not anything else. Mani-pravalam literally means ruby-coral, where Mani means ruby in Sanskrit while Pravalam means Coral in Tamil. Sanskrit is referred to as ruby and Tamil as coral.
😊😊 Now, you can do the simple math yourself and find out sanskrit got mixed with which language? So, it clearly suggests that Tamil was language which got mixed with Sanskrit, thus creating Malayalam.
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They are not at all aware what was the early native language’s grammar structure before Sanskritization - One must remember that any non-sanskrit words in Malayalam have their own grammar which has been followed in Tamil for centuries even before Sanskit was developed as an advanced language.
😊😊 For an example we have a word called “Noottaandugal”/ നൂറ്റാണ്ടുകൾ / நூற்றாண்டுகள் . When Nooru + aandugal joins together, the word Noottaandugal is derived. As per Tamil grammar there are three rules/formulas applied when adding the two words Nooru + aandugal and to convert into Noottaandugal as one single word. This was defined in Tamil well before Sanskit came to Kerala.
😊😊 So, is it possible to find the root words from Malayalam’s perspective for the Malayalam word “Iruunnalledathu”/ ഇരുന്നള്ളേടത്തു ? I am sure with Tamil grammar, we can still break this word in to the actual root words and we can say what rule can be applied and how this can be formed into one single word. Give it a try.
👍👍 Not aware of the glorious Sangam period literature (From 300 BC to 300 AD) and not taught about any of the kerala’s ancient Chera author’s literary works - Sangam literature talks about ancient Kerala (Chera Nadu) and recorded the life of ancient Chera people and their lives in many of its works. No one is aware of that. And it is surprising to see that some people claiming that Sangam literature never existed.
👍👍 This makes me laugh sometimes, because these are the people who cant believe the hundreds of ancient songs mentioning ancient kerala in detail and at the same time these are the people who tell others that Kerala was created by throwing an Axe.
😊😊😊 Not taught about the ancient Chera Tamil Landscapes - The entire Chera country (Today’s Kerala) was classified into “Thinnai”s according to the Sangam period Tamil landscapes (Kurinji, Mullai, Marudham, Neidhal, Palai).
Even today, we can see that In Kerala, many places named after the ancient Tamil Landscapes.
😊😊😊 I don't think anyone has any idea about this either.
Not aware why the ancient temples and ancient villages, Towns, Cities are starting with the Tamil honorific prefix “Thiru” and also Not aware why the names of ancient villages, Towns, Cities ending with “Oor” or “Peroor”- Just for an example, Thrissur - Thrissur's Old name was “Thiru Siva Peroor”. (Peroor means Periya + oor in Tamil).
👍👍 No one uses Periya in Malayalalam. Instead they use Valliya. If Periya is not a word in Malayalam, then how did Thrissur, the cultural city of Kerala got the Tamil name Periya Oor? Also, Thiru is used extensively in almost all ancient places with ancient Temples.
😊😊😊 So, this means that Kerala’s ancient past was Tamil and all the places in Kerala before tenth century were named as per Tamil prefixes and suffixes.
😊😊 Not aware of the ancient Tamil-Brahmi scripts even though many ancient artefacts found from Kerala were written in Tamil-Brahmi - I see that many from Kerala claim that the Brahmi letters came from north to South and also, they do not accept the fact that the ancient Brahmi letters found in Kerala were Tamil.
👍👍👍 I would like to pinpoint something here. From the Adichanallur archeology sites, archeologists unearthed many pots with Tamil-Brahmi letters in it. They belong to 500 BC which is roughly 200 years before Ashoka’s edicts. So, and the first one to introduce the Brahmi letters in India were Tamils.
😊😊 Please see, Newly discovered Brahmi inscription decipheredNot aware of Kerala's ancient Buddhism and Jainism past - The entire Kerala was a Buddhist country 2000 years back and the Jains and the buddhists lived side by side.
😊😊 As per the current corrupt historians of Kerala, the History of Kerala starts only after 10th century, hence, there is no way that Malayalis will come to know about their Buddhist past and their Jain past.
😊😊 (for all the people who deny their actual history, please check who was Karumadi Kuttan in kerala’s history and how did he ended up in the nearby stream and who damaged him and threw him there thousand years back.
👍👍👍 Check the following links for your reference.Karumadikkuttan - Wikipedia , Jainism in Kerala - Wikipedia , Neelamperoor Palli Bhagavathi Temple - Wikipedia . There are so many proofs in kerala.
Anyone can do their own simple research to find out more.Not aware of ancient Epics originated in Kerala 2000 years back- There were so many sangam period songs written in Tamil which talks about Kerala’s ancient past.
None of that is taught to the Malayali younger generations.
👍👍👍 Also, no historians is interested in looking at it as they firmly believes that the Kerala’s history starts only after 10th century AD.
😊😊 Not knowing who Kannagi was. Even though Kodungallur temple and Attukal temples are dedicated to Kannagi and not aware why Chilambu is so sacred in Kerala tradition - Kannagi is a Tamil women who lived 2000 years back and she is the central character of the Tamil epic Chilapathikaram / Silapathikaram which was written in Kerala by a Cheran author Illango adigal.
😊😊😊 She has been considered as a god in the Tamil country for the past 2000 years. As kerala was a Tamil buddhist country at that time, she was elevated to a goddess status in buddhism and kerala buddhist people started worshipping her. This has spread into the nearby buddhist country Srilanka and Srilankan buddhists also started worshiping Kannagi as Pattini Devi.
👍👍The Sirlankan Tamils worship her as Kannagi Amman. The Tamils from Tamilnadu has many temples for Kannagi and she is worshipped even today as Amman. (The Amman with chilambu in hand).
😊😊 Malayalis worship her as Kodungallur Bagavathy and Aattukal Devi. Also, kannagi’s Chilambu is so sacred in many temples in kerala.
😊😊😊 The Velichappadu concept and the Bharani celebrations are all for Kannagi only. But, unfortunately the Kerala historians had other plans and Kannagi is not known in kerala history after 10th century AD. Her name has been changed post that.
😊😊 All the above points are not to criticise the Malayali community as a whole for not knowing their history. It is just to create an awareness and to point out that how ill informed they are about their own history.
😊😊😊 I see my Malayali brothers as the Jack Nicholson’s of India who were cheated by their own kings and Rulers and historians for more than 8 centuries now.
😊😊 So, to answer this question once again, Not knowing their Tamil origin is not their mistake.
😊😊 Blacking out Kerala’s history was a well planned conspiracy plotted by the migrants who came to Kerala and started ruling the country independently from the end of 12th century onwards.
@Prophet Bomb ചേട്ടാ നിണ്ടേ above that comments please open this link leave here ....👍👍 www.quora.com/Do-Malayalis-know-about-their-Tamil-origin/answer/Cheran-Pandian-1?ch=10&share=65a69f13&srid=uhESO
@Prophet Bomb ചേട്ടാ നിണ്ടേ above that comments please open this link leave here ..erewww.quora.com/Do-Malayalis-know-about-their-Tamil-origin/answer/Cheran-Pandian-1?ch=10&share=65a69f13&srid=uhESO
Malayalam is an independent language and it's evolved old tamil(not modern tamil, the tamil used in tholkkapiyam and sangam literature) or proto dravidian language. Malayalam is considered as 4th oldest language after Tamil, Sanskrit and Kannada and also considered as sister language of modern tamil. There are inscriptions in malayalam dated back B.C 5 and kerala was mentioned in a stone inscription dated BC. 300. Whatever it's evolved from tamil or not, malayalam has high anquity and a huge literature collection.
Vysag Murali, yes i accept, modern Tamil was worst.
Many Tamils Can't speak in Senthamizh. But Malayalees using some Senthamizh words.
If Tamil and Sanskrit was oldest , then Malayalam also oldest.
Modern Tamil was not worst ...it was developed....even now in modern Tamil there is no influence of Sanskrit....
മലയാളം കൊണ്ട് ജീവിക്കുകയും അനേകർക്ക് അന്നവുമായDc യുടെ ഉപകാരസ്മരണക്ക് നന്ദി
Kerala was part of tamilakam so before malayalam existed the people there obviously would have spoken tamil so there is no point in arguing over malayalam tamil origin ur ancestors were tamilan at one stage
Many Malayalees have an inferiority and insecurity complex with this truth. I've learned to accept it long ago.
@@soundcheck2k7 ആധിപത്യ അധികാര മനോഭാവം ഉള്ള സംസ്കൃത പക്ഷവാതി , ഏകദേശം പൊതു വർഷം 14 - ആം നൂറ്റാണ്ടുകളിൽ എഴുതിയ ലീലാ തിലകമണിപ്രവാള ലക്ഷണക്രന്ഥത്തിൽ , കൃത്രിമ ഭാഷയായ സംസ്കൃതം ഉയർന്ന ഭാഷ എന്നും നാട്ട് ഭാഷയായ പൂർവികരുടെ മലനാട്ട് തമിഴും സംസ്കൃതവും കലർന്ന മിശ്ര ഭാഷയേ നിന്ദ്യമായ ഭാഷ എന്ന് കെണി ഒരുക്കി മസ്തിഷ്ക ക്ഷാളനം ചെയ്തത് മനസ്സിലാക്കാൻ കഴിയാത്തത് കൊണ്ടാണ് മലയാളി തൻ്റെ ഭാഷയായ മലയാളത്തേ അഭഹർഷാബോധം അവജ്ഞ പുച്ഛത്തോടെ നോക്കി കാണുന്നത് . മലയാളം , ഒരു ഭാഷയായി M.A , Ph.d എടുത്തു പഠിക്കുന്നവർക്ക്
ഈവക കാര്യങ്ങൾ എല്ലാം അറിയാം .
Tamil people hearing someone's baby cry "Amma": We are it's FATHER!!
Malayalam is a language evolved in the late 9th century and it is a compilation of tamil and Sanskrit as the famous tamil literature silapathigaram is written by the Cheran prince ilangovadigal and the cheras are tamil kings who ruled kerala that times
true
1. The oldest Malayalam inscription is Edakkal-5 is found from Edakkal caves which is atleast 2000 years old....malayalam and tamil are evolved from a common language ... German scholar Herman gundert said that malayalam is the most beautiful and technically parfect language than others ... in tamil they cannot pronounce and write "ZH" ... malayalam can write and speak any sound in the world ....
Tamil and Malayalam evolved from Sen tamil not from tamil
@@minimaxmini7675 Ya, correct
Who is the mother of Malayalam
Tamil
Old tamil
Not the current tamil old tamil+ Sanskrit
a true devotion to the mother land ! Thanks
Around 1oth century CE, Sanskrit and *Ancient Kerala Bhasha(old malayalam) (thats what I would call that language which is not Tamil)* were the popular languages in Kerala. Nambudiris shunned “Kerala Bhasha”, and Sanskrit was the only elite language in Kerala. Even before proper Malayalam works emerged in Kerala, Sanskrit works and scholars could be found in Kerala.
Around 12th century CE, Islam rule started in North India, whereby Persian started its impact on Apabhramsha-evolved languages like Khariboli. By 13th century CE, Amir Khusrow had started to write in a language what we can consider the initial form of Hindustani. (Almost intelligible) At the same time, in Kerala, the non Sanskritic literature began propping up, and the non Tamil “Kerala Bhasha” began gaining popularity, with considerable Sanskritic vocabulary. By 12th century CE, the Ramacharitam, the first work in “ancient” Malayalam came to existence. The coming century saw the development of Sanskrit and Kerala Bhasha in parallel.
By 14th century, Kerala Nambudiris relaxed a bit on the language issue. Being the integral part of literary culture of Kerala, Nambudiris started to write in a beautiful literary mix language, called Manipravalam, which was perfect mix (both lexical and grammatical) of Sanskrit and Kerala Bhasha. At the same time, in North India, elites began borrowing Persian vocabulary into the language, though it was not as homogeneous mix as Manipravalam. The Manipravalam was a purely literary language, specifically made for the literary enjoyment through pun words, prosody and rhyme, which enriched both the Kerala Bhasha and Sanskrit. However, the Persian influence on Hindi was full lexical, it had no influence on grammar.
By 16th century, modern Malayalam had originated and deviated from both Manipravalam and Sanskrit. Ezhuthachan is regarded as the Father of modern Malayalam. His most famous work, Adhyatmaramayanam, is written in a language that is perfectly intelligible with modern Malayalam, except for certain extra uses of pure Sanskrit grammatical forms like “vidhau”, “tadA”, “manasi”, “aham”, “tvam”… Still, those forms are allowed in today’s literary Malayalam too, and Ezhuthachan’s language is perfectly intelligible. Still, Sanskrit and Manipravalam were used, and so was the colloquial Kerala language used among the tribes away from the civilizations.
However, modern Hindi did not originate even in 16th century CE. By the Mughal period, the Khariboli, Dehlavi all were emerging distinct due to Persian influence. Instead of Hindi, Urdu was being created. At the time when modern Malayalam was born and was gaining stability, Zaban-e-Urdu was to take its birth in the camps of Mughals. Dehlavi came to be developing to what can be called as Hindustani.
By 18th century CE, several upper caste poets themselves began to empathize in Kerala, and began homogenizing the language, from the confusion of where to use Sanskrit and where colloquial words / grammar are more suitable, in the language. Malayalam was made stable in this era. Modern Malayalam emerged stable in this period.
Old Malayalam itself comes from tamil. There are many Tamil brahmi inscriptions in Kerala
It is not correct to say Malayalam was derived from Tamil or from any other languages. Most historians are of the view that all the present Dravidian languages evolved from a single Dravidian language which was spoken all over Tamizhakam (the name used by South Indian historians - mostly Tamil - to indicate the peninsular India of Sangam period). Regional dialects of this language led to the evolution of all Dravidian languages. And many argue that Tamil would have evolved earlier than Malayalam but one cannot completely agree because the western coast had predominance in internal and external trade. Hence it is possible that Malayalam could have had an evolution much earlier than it is believed to be. Anyway the peception that Malayalam evolved from Tamil is now proven completely wrong. This would be like Hindu chauvinist historians telling Sanskrit as the mother of all Indian languages.
arfaz habeeb u say tamilagam.tamil agam means inside coverd land by tamil language.
IS NOT any dravidan language. Tamil Sangam literature written by tamil language.TAMIL this word used by ettuthogai/patthupattu.TAMIL speaking land called Tamil agam.(tamil nadu+now a day kerela).
Tamils are mention about Aryans.in Tamil sangam literature.
Aryans also mentioned Tamils in the name of dravida.
Tamil-tamul-dramul-dramut-dravid.
Athi sankara called Thiru g(n)anasampanthar "dravida sisu" he is a one of the
"nayanmar "famous
Tamil saviest poet.in
bakthi moment period.
vainava Aachariya Ramanujar called (Tamil
vaisnava poems 4000
divya prapantham )-'Dravida veda". sung by Tamil vaisnav poets "Alwargal",
These 2 aachariya sankara ,ramanuja are bramins.they wrote their phylosype in sanskrit.and they mention tamil poets /poems in the name of "dravida",but both of saivest/vaisnavist poems direct use " tamil" the word comes many songs.but sanskrit scholars called tamil dravida.Tamil also called them Aryans
arfaz habeeb western coast trade.1.Tamil sangam means Tamil acadamic period.that time ty grow up Tamil language.its 3sangam(academic) period.we got the 3rd sangam tamil poems.first second sangam tamil poems were lost.
arfaz habeeb simple qn?Tamil sangam literature written by which language?
2.who are understand/read tamil sangam literature Tamil or malayalee?
3.Is Tamil sangam literature mention Tamil or malayalam in that literature?
4 .IS Tamil sangam literature follwing Tholkappiyam tamil grammer?or u r telling single dravidan language grammer? or malayalam/kannad grammer?
5.Cera kings one of the Tamil king Among with chola,pandiyas.
arfaz habeeb tamil sangam period the language " Tamil"தமிழ், தமிழ், தமிழ்.only.
When outsiders occupay that land தமிழ் language changed .
But thatcase Tamil nadu lot of outsider occupay but language was protect .Tamil sangam period
after
Sangam maruviya kalam
after
Kappiya kalam
After
Samaya kuravargal kalam(bakthi moment period)
After
later chola period
Raja Raja chola period
After
Telugu spaking vijaya/nayakar and maratha period
After
British period
Bharathi
Maramalai adigal started pure tamil moment
After
periyar,Arinar anna period
+Kathir Velan கதிர் வேலன் true. no one knows where the dravida languages arose from. But before it was called malayalam, the dravida language was surely called tamil. though it was spoken different from tamil we speak today, its still tamil. all languages evolve.
Malayalam didn't originate from Sanskrit and Old Tamil. It is actually an ancient language spoken in Kerala since ancient times.
It is true that Malayalam borrowed lots of words from Sanskrit. So do other languages. Tamil used to have lots of Sanskrit words until many of them were eliminated thanks to Pure Tamil Movement with the help of Tamil Scholars.
David Dean Schulman points out that there has been a wrong tendency among historical linguists to think that Malayalam was diverged directly from Tamil.
“There has been a tendency among historical linguists to think of Malayalam as having diverged directly from Tamil (the Tamil is spoken from the ancient times in what is today Kerala), perhaps as late as the thirteenth century. But this view is almost certainly wrong. Tamil and Malayalam must have separated from one another at a much earlier stage perhaps around the first millennium AD, as we can see from the several surviving archaic features of Malayalam." David Dean Shulman, author of Tamil (page 6) - A Biography, The Belkman's Press of Harvard University Press, 2016.
"The preservation of many early linguistic features in Malayalam and the altered reflections of those features in Tamil point to the differentiation between the East coast (Tamil area) and the West coast (Malayalam area)” - A. Govindankutty Menon (the author of “From Proto-Tamil-Malayalam to West Coast Dialects”).
Historically speaking, Malayalam (also known as Malabar language) was the only language of Old Malabar. In 15th century and 16th century, Malabar (also known as Old Malabar) refers to the region from Kumbla (located 11 Km north of Kasargod, a town in Today’s Kerala) to Cape Comorin (Kanyakumari which is now in Today’s Tamil Nadu).
Portuguese Explorer and Writer Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521) points out that the land of Malabar begins from the place called Cumbola (Kumbla) and it ends at Cape of Comorin (Kanyakumari) and all men use one tongue only which they call “Maliama” (that is Malayalam). Malayazhma and Malayayma are variants of Malayalam. (Book “The Book of Duarte Barbosa: An Account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, written by Duarte Barbosa and completed about the Year 1518 A.D.” by Mansel Longworth Dames, Vol. 2, Pg. 1-7).
Marco Polo (who lived in 13th century and early 14th century) also points out that Melibar (or Malabar) is a great kingdom lying towards the west. The people are Idolaters; they have a language of their own, and a king of their own, and pay tribute to nobody (The Travels of Marco Polo, Book 3, Chapter 25).
During the time of Portuguese Explorer and Writer Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521),Tamil was spoken in the kingdom of Narsyngua.
Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521) points out that the Kingdom of Narsyngua (The extensive Hindu Kingdom of Vijayanagar was known to Portuguese as Narsinga from the name of ruling Raja at the time of Vasco Da Gama’s first arrival in India. His name was Narasinha or Narsingha.) is so great that it had five vast provinces, each with its own language. The first of these extends along the coast as far as Malabar, and this they call Tolinate (Tulu-nada), another in the back-country behind it, which they call Danseam Rayen. The next which marches with the kingdom of Narsyngua proper, is called Telingu (Telugu); then the city of Bisnaga (Vijayanagar) itself, which they call Canarim (Kannada), and the kingdom of Charamandel (Coromandel), where the language is Tamul (Tamil). (Book “The Book of Duarte Barbosa: An Account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, written by Duarte Barbosa and completed about the Year 1518 A.D.” by Mansel Longworth Dames, Vol. 1, Pg. 182-184).
The region of Today's Kerala in ancient times was known to Arab travellers and Marco Polo as Malabar (also written as Melibar) which was from Kumbla to Kanyakumari.
Arab travelers and Marco Polo called Coromandel Coast (where Tamil was spoken) as "Ma'abar." I believe this was mentioned in Books “The Book of Duarte Barbosa: An Account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, written by Duarte Barbosa and completed about the Year 1518 A.D.” by Mansel Longworth Dames, Vol. 1 to 2.
Many historians falsely assumed that Ma'abar was actually referring to Malabar. This gave people the wrong impression the chera tamil people lived in Kerala during ancient times.
From what I researched, Sangham literature is actually associated with region of Ma'abar. Chera tamil people ruled the region of Coromandel Coast (also known as Ma'abar among foreigners).
*Vattezhuthu, kolezhuthu...*
*வட்டெழுத்து, கோலெழுத்து...*
*വട്ടെഴുത്ത്, കോലെഴുത്ത്...*
*If Tamil people ask how malayalam born, they say it born form Sanskrit...*
*Same thing if Hindi people ask means, they say it born from Tamil...*
I want to know which language was spoken in Kerala nadu before 10 centuries back... and what was their writing system... say something like Vattezhuthu, kolezhuthu... வட்டெழுத்து, கோலெழுத்து... വട്ടെഴുത്ത്, കോലെഴുത്ത്...
The above writing itself resembles that the word is a pakka Tamil script... then how come u people says that there is a language that is Proto-Malayalam... how it come Please Explain!!!!
*வாழ்க தமிழ்* 🔥
Why you guys want to prove malayalam is derived from tamil. Leave us alone. Why you guys interfering in our matters.
@@Truthholder345 Their concept is every language in the world came from Tamil. Not just Malayalam. You can ignore them. Malayalam didn't originate from Sanskrit and Tamil. It is actually an ancient language spoken in Kerala since ancient times.
David Dean Schulman points out that there has been a wrong tendency among historical linguists to think that Malayalam was diverged directly from Tamil.
“There has been a tendency among historical linguists to think of Malayalam as having diverged directly from Tamil (the Tamil is spoken from the ancient times in what is today Kerala), perhaps as late as the thirteenth century. But this view is almost certainly wrong. Tamil and Malayalam must have separated from one another at a much earlier stage perhaps around the first millennium AD, as we can see from the several archaic features of Malayalam." David Dean Shulman, author of Tamil - A Biography, The Belkman's Press of Harvard University Press, 2016.
"The preservation of many early linguistic features in Malayalam and the altered reflections of those features in Tamil point to the differentiation between the East coast (Tamil area) and the West coast (Malayalam area)” - A. Govindankutty Menon (the author of “From Proto-Tamil-Malayalam to West Coast Dialects”).
Historically speaking, Malayalam (also known as Malabar language) was the only language of Old Malabar. In 15th century and 16th century, Malabar (also known as Old Malabar) refers to the region from Kumbla (located 11 Km north of Kasargod, a town in Today’s Kerala) to Cape Comorin (Kanyakumari which is now in Today’s Tamil Nadu).
Portuguese Explorer and Writer Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521) points out that the land of Malabar begins from the place called Cumbola (Kumbla) and it ends at Cape of Comorin (Kanyakumari) and all men use one tongue only which they call “Maliama” (that is Malayalam). Malayazhma and Malayayma are variants of Malayalam. (Book “The Book of Duarte Barbosa: An Account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, written by Duarte Barbosa and completed about the Year 1518 A.D.” by Mansel Longworth Dames, Vol. 2, Pg. 1-7).
@@josephpendleton4927 you are absolutely right.
@@Truthholder345 Thank you. I thought I should share this with you as well.
The region of Today's Kerala in ancient times was known to Arab travellers and Marco Polo as Malabar (also written as Melibar) which was from Kumbla to Kanyakumari.
Arab travelers and Marco Polo called Coromandel Coast (where Tamil was spoken) as "Ma'abar." I believe this was mentioned in Books “The Book of Duarte Barbosa: An Account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, written by Duarte Barbosa and completed about the Year 1518 A.D.” by Mansel Longworth Dames, Vol. 1 to 2.
Many historians falsely assumed that Ma'abar was actually referring to Malabar. This gave people the wrong impression the chera tamil people lived in Kerala during ancient times.
From what I researched, Sangham literature is actually associated with region of Ma'abar. Chera tamil people ruled the region of Coromandel Coast (also known as Ma'abar among foreigners).
The claim that Malayalam came out of Old Tamil doesn't make any sense due to the fact that Malayalam's grammatical structure is very different from Tamil. As you know, Malayalam lacks subject verb agreement(s) while Tamil strictly requires subject verb agreement(s) during conjugation.
In Old Tamil, there were only two tenses (Past tense and Non Past tense). So Old Tamil didn't have Future tense and Present tense independently. With Malayalam (since ancient times), there are "at least" 4 forms of present tenses. On the top of that, Malayalam used Past tense and Future tense since ancient times.
Joseph Pendleton nice work bro.
No one could ignore I have searched in Wikipedia and I found Malayalam cannot function without tamil and it could not be a classical language as it could not function on its own
abdur rahman you also cannot ignore the fact that malayalam cannot function without sanskrit.
in the same wikipedia its proven with facts that 80% malayalam vocabulary is sanskrit.
india government approved malayalam as classical language ...
malayalam and tamil is born from a common language ... The oldest Malayalam inscription is Edakkal-5 is found from Edakkal caves which is atleast 2000 years old.... we can see english words in malayalam .. so we can't say malayalam is from english ... it is applicable in the case of tamil words in malayalam
Rb Gfx yes if there are common words between malayalam and tamil then maybe according their logic, tamil originated from malayalam :D
According to Harvard only classical languages are allowed to have a chair but atleast it should meet 8 requirements but tamil is the only language to meet all 11 requirements making it the largest Indian language spoken all over the world and the oldest language
Most of the Malayali population do not know or do not believe their Tamil origin.
The major reason is that they are not taught the correct history in school.
😊😊 History of Kerala and history of Malayalam Language is falsified with plenty of wrong informations.
😊😊 According to the historians from Kerala and as per their records, the history of Kerala starts from around 9th - 10th century AD.
😊😊 The history of Malayalam language starts from around 13th - 14th century AD. Anything before that period is a mystery to the Malayali population.
😊😊 No one knows who lived in Kerala before 10th century and what language they spoke.
It is so surprising to see that one of the highly literate state is doing so poor when it comes to their own history.
😊😊 The funniest part is that, some people still argue that Malayalam is a sister language to Tamil and both came from a common ancestor not realising which language was the mother of Malayalam.
😊😊 Also, no one knows the history of Chera people who were the actual ancestors of entire Kerala population (excluding the migrants).
Well said Mr.Sabareesan. The original malayalam is called Pacha Malayalam. The words in pacha malayalam is exactly the old tamil words. If any malayalee is speaking pacha malayalam, a Tamil can understand it clearly.
But tha sad part is, malayalees are moving away from pacha malayalam and sanskritising their language.
Even though their is a proper malayalam word, they still using sanskrit word.
They don't want to know their history before 10th century also.
The most rational people in India avoiding talking their ancestor before 10th century ia really a paradox.
Do u know what Onam is celebrated for.. And how old Onam is... It is 12000 yrs old when king Bali ruled entire earth..so Malayalam ia that old. So after Sanskrit Malayalam is the oldest and then tamil
You tamilains keep on boasting abt ur language...... but don't try to dominate it over us....we are not that stupid to understand ur theory of global language tamil.........can u spell zha of pazham.....sha of asha......ur first script written by agastya muni......whom u call as agathiar is actually a sanskrit word which means fire.....u can't even spell the name of ur first poet.......even then u want malayalam to be a copy paste of tamil......hats off.....
@@sreelakshmi7476 we dominate u stupid 😀😀 we can & are using zha ழ in tamil. zha is beauty of tamil., same in malayalam ഴ derived from tamil😂😂 ழ -ഴ ..
Thamizh கோழி கோடு
Malayalam കോഴി കോടു
Sha ,ASha we don't need these sanskrit letter's we are using independent thamizh Grammar.. what did you said we can't read first script 😀😀 old inscription were vattezhuthu we can read💪💪 ...We have literature do you have any literature in malayalam ?? 3rd century ??
@@sreelakshmi7476 Let me explain how they were deprived of their own history.
Below are the things Malayalis are not taught or completely not aware of, even though these are are all very much part of their ancient past.
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They were made to believe that the mother of the Malayalam language was some prototype ancient language instead of Tamil - There are multiple claims that Malayalam evolved from a proto-dravidian language. But, no one realises that the proto-dravidian language itself was ancient Tamil.
😊😊 I see many claims from some of the Malayali friends that the old Tamil and the middle Tamil and the Modern Tamil are very different. Just for all of your info, Tamil is still following the same grammar which was defined during the first millennium BC. There is no diversion here.
😊😊 It is still the same language unchanged grammatically. There could be new words added during the modern era due to the modern usage. But, still the old word is used.
😊😊 The Sangam literature and the Pre-Sangam period grammar is still relevant and that is the core even today. So there is no question of old, middle or new. It’s just the continuation of the same language for the last three millenniums
😊😊 They are not aware about, into which language Sanskrit words were added desperately and that created Malayalam language - As per Kerala's recorded history, Malayalam was born From the Manipravalam form. At least everyone in Kerala agrees to this.
👍👍👍 Now, let’s see what is Manipravalam? Manipravalam മണിപ്രവാളം/ மணிப்ரவாளம் / மணிஇடைபவழம் நடை was a literary style used in medieval liturgical texts in ancient Thamizhagam.
👍👍 All must note here that Only when Tamil and Sanskrit is mixed, Manipravalam style of literature is born. not anything else. Mani-pravalam literally means ruby-coral, where Mani means ruby in Sanskrit while Pravalam means Coral in Tamil. Sanskrit is referred to as ruby and Tamil as coral.
😊😊 Now, you can do the simple math yourself and find out sanskrit got mixed with which language? So, it clearly suggests that Tamil was language which got mixed with Sanskrit, thus creating Malayalam.
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They are not at all aware what was the early native language’s grammar structure before Sanskritization - One must remember that any non-sanskrit words in Malayalam have their own grammar which has been followed in Tamil for centuries even before Sanskit was developed as an advanced language.
😊😊 For an example we have a word called “Noottaandugal”/ നൂറ്റാണ്ടുകൾ / நூற்றாண்டுகள் . When Nooru + aandugal joins together, the word Noottaandugal is derived. As per Tamil grammar there are three rules/formulas applied when adding the two words Nooru + aandugal and to convert into Noottaandugal as one single word. This was defined in Tamil well before Sanskit came to Kerala.
😊😊 So, is it possible to find the root words from Malayalam’s perspective for the Malayalam word “Iruunnalledathu”/ ഇരുന്നള്ളേടത്തു ? I am sure with Tamil grammar, we can still break this word in to the actual root words and we can say what rule can be applied and how this can be formed into one single word. Give it a try.
👍👍 Not aware of the glorious Sangam period literature (From 300 BC to 300 AD) and not taught about any of the kerala’s ancient Chera author’s literary works - Sangam literature talks about ancient Kerala (Chera Nadu) and recorded the life of ancient Chera people and their lives in many of its works. No one is aware of that. And it is surprising to see that some people claiming that Sangam literature never existed.
👍👍 This makes me laugh sometimes, because these are the people who cant believe the hundreds of ancient songs mentioning ancient kerala in detail and at the same time these are the people who tell others that Kerala was created by throwing an Axe.
😊😊😊 Not taught about the ancient Chera Tamil Landscapes - The entire Chera country (Today’s Kerala) was classified into “Thinnai”s according to the Sangam period Tamil landscapes (Kurinji, Mullai, Marudham, Neidhal, Palai).
Even today, we can see that In Kerala, many places named after the ancient Tamil Landscapes.
😊😊😊 I don't think anyone has any idea about this either.
Not aware why the ancient temples and ancient villages, Towns, Cities are starting with the Tamil honorific prefix “Thiru” and also Not aware why the names of ancient villages, Towns, Cities ending with “Oor” or “Peroor”- Just for an example, Thrissur - Thrissur's Old name was “Thiru Siva Peroor”. (Peroor means Periya + oor in Tamil).
👍👍 No one uses Periya in Malayalalam. Instead they use Valliya. If Periya is not a word in Malayalam, then how did Thrissur, the cultural city of Kerala got the Tamil name Periya Oor? Also, Thiru is used extensively in almost all ancient places with ancient Temples.
😊😊😊 So, this means that Kerala’s ancient past was Tamil and all the places in Kerala before tenth century were named as per Tamil prefixes and suffixes.
😊😊 Not aware of the ancient Tamil-Brahmi scripts even though many ancient artefacts found from Kerala were written in Tamil-Brahmi - I see that many from Kerala claim that the Brahmi letters came from north to South and also, they do not accept the fact that the ancient Brahmi letters found in Kerala were Tamil.
👍👍👍 I would like to pinpoint something here. From the Adichanallur archeology sites, archeologists unearthed many pots with Tamil-Brahmi letters in it. They belong to 500 BC which is roughly 200 years before Ashoka’s edicts. So, and the first one to introduce the Brahmi letters in India were Tamils.
😊😊 Please see, Newly discovered Brahmi inscription decipheredNot aware of Kerala's ancient Buddhism and Jainism past - The entire Kerala was a Buddhist country 2000 years back and the Jains and the buddhists lived side by side.
😊😊 As per the current corrupt historians of Kerala, the History of Kerala starts only after 10th century, hence, there is no way that Malayalis will come to know about their Buddhist past and their Jain past.
😊😊 (for all the people who deny their actual history, please check who was Karumadi Kuttan in kerala’s history and how did he ended up in the nearby stream and who damaged him and threw him there thousand years back.
👍👍👍 Check the following links for your reference.Karumadikkuttan - Wikipedia , Jainism in Kerala - Wikipedia , Neelamperoor Palli Bhagavathi Temple - Wikipedia . There are so many proofs in kerala.
Anyone can do their own simple research to find out more.Not aware of ancient Epics originated in Kerala 2000 years back- There were so many sangam period songs written in Tamil which talks about Kerala’s ancient past.
None of that is taught to the Malayali younger generations.
👍👍👍 Also, no historians is interested in looking at it as they firmly believes that the Kerala’s history starts only after 10th century AD.
😊😊 Not knowing who Kannagi was. Even though Kodungallur temple and Attukal temples are dedicated to Kannagi and not aware why Chilambu is so sacred in Kerala tradition - Kannagi is a Tamil women who lived 2000 years back and she is the central character of the Tamil epic Chilapathikaram / Silapathikaram which was written in Kerala by a Cheran author Illango adigal.
😊😊😊 She has been considered as a god in the Tamil country for the past 2000 years. As kerala was a Tamil buddhist country at that time, she was elevated to a goddess status in buddhism and kerala buddhist people started worshipping her. This has spread into the nearby buddhist country Srilanka and Srilankan buddhists also started worshiping Kannagi as Pattini Devi.
👍👍The Sirlankan Tamils worship her as Kannagi Amman. The Tamils from Tamilnadu has many temples for Kannagi and she is worshipped even today as Amman. (The Amman with chilambu in hand).
😊😊 Malayalis worship her as Kodungallur Bagavathy and Aattukal Devi. Also, kannagi’s Chilambu is so sacred in many temples in kerala.
😊😊😊 The Velichappadu concept and the Bharani celebrations are all for Kannagi only. But, unfortunately the Kerala historians had other plans and Kannagi is not known in kerala history after 10th century AD. Her name has been changed post that.
😊😊 All the above points are not to criticise the Malayali community as a whole for not knowing their history. It is just to create an awareness and to point out that how ill informed they are about their own history.
😊😊😊 I see my Malayali brothers as the Jack Nicholson’s of India who were cheated by their own kings and Rulers and historians for more than 8 centuries now.
😊😊 So, to answer this question once again, Not knowing their Tamil origin is not their mistake.
😊😊 Blacking out Kerala’s history was a well planned conspiracy plotted by the migrants who came to Kerala and started ruling the country independently from the end of 12th century onwards.
ulagathulaye first uruvana language thamizh thanu scientist ey sollitanga.. thamizhla irundhuthan malayalam vandhuthunum scientist soldranga but adhulam unnmai illayam.. avanunga soldrathu than unmaiyam .. malayalam saprate language nu soldranga .. pls fact therinjuttu vandhu pesunga dr.friends😀
இந்தியாவில் செம்மொழி அங்கிகாரம் பெற பின்வரும் விதிகள் உள்ளது..
1.பழமையான இலக்கியங்களை கொண்டு இருக்க வேண்டும்.
2.ஒரு மொழியானது 1,500 முதல் 2,000 ஆண்டுகள் வரையிலான வரலாறு மற்றும் பழைமையான இலக்கியங்கள் கொண்டதாக இருக்க வேண்டும். அல்லது அம்மொழியின் துவக்ககால இலக்கியங்கள் உயர் தரத்தில் இருத்தல் வேண்டும்.
3. மேலும் அந்த மொழியின் இலக்கிய மரபு தொடக்கத்திலிருந்தே அம்மொழிக்கு உரிமையானதாக இருத்தல் வேண்டும்.
4..மற்ற மொழிகளின் இலக்கிய மரபுகளிலிருந்து பெறப்பட்டதாக இருக்கக் கூடாது.
இதன் அடிப்படையிலே ஒரு மொழிக்கு செம்மொழி தகுதியை இந்திய அரசு வழங்கி வருகிறது.
இந்தியாவில் தமிழ், சமசுகிருதம் கன்னடம், மற்றும் ஒடியா,மலையாளம் மொழிகள் செம்மொழிகளாக தகுதி பெற்றுள்ளது
மலையாளமோ 800 ஆண்டுகள் தான் வரலாறு இலக்கியங்களை கொண்டது..13 நூற்றாண்டில் இராமா சரிதம் 14 நூற்றாண்டில் மணிப்ரவாளம் இலக்கியங்கள் எழுதப்பட்டது..எதுவுமே 800 ஆண்டுகள் தாண்டவில்லை ..
பின் இவர்கள் எப்படி 1500 ஆண்டுகள் பழமையான இலக்கியம் உள்ளது என்று நீருபித்தார்கள்..???
முதலில் மலையாளம் வரலாற்றை பார்ப்போம்
ஆரியர்கள் வருகைக்கு பிறகு சேரநாட்டு காரர்கள் தமிழை தான் பேசி வந்தனர் தமிழர்களாக தான் இருந்தனர்..
பிறகு தமிழுடன் மலையாளத்தை கலந்து புதியதாக மலையாள மொழியாக மாற்றம் செய்தனர்..
மலையாளம் தனியாக தோன்ற 13 நூற்றாண்டுகளில் இருந்து ஆரம்பித்தது..
பழைய இலக்கியங்கள் 13 நூற்றாண்டு - இராம சரிதம்
14 நூற்றாண்டு - மணி ப்ராவாளம்
சில கல்வெட்டு ஆதாரங்கள் 9 ஆம் நூற்றாண்டில் வயநாடு எடக்கல் பகுதியில் மலையாள (வட்டெழுத்து) எழுதப்பட்டது என்றும் கூறுகின்றனர்..
1700-1900 காலகட்டங்களில் பல்வேறு கிருத்துவ மதமாற்றும் போதகர்களால் மலையாள இலக்கணம் எழுதப்பட்டுள்ளது.. மதம்மாற்றுவதற்கு (ஆங்கிலம் to மலையாள பைபிள் )
பிரபலமான மலையாள இலக்கண நூல் 'கேரளா பண்ணிநீயாம்' இராஜா இராஜா வர்மா வால் எழுதப்பட்டது..
மலையாளம் தொடக்ககாலத்தில் மலையாளம் பழைய வட்டெழுத்துகளில் எழுதப்பட்டு வந்தன..அவர்கள் பச்ச மலையாளம் என்று கூறுவார்கள் அது தமிழ் வட்டெழுத்து ..
ஆதாரம் www.keralaculture.org/language/158
மலையாள மொழியின் தந்தை துஞ்சத்து இராமானுஜன் எழுத்தச்சன்..
மேலே சொன்ன செம்மொழி விதிகள் மலையாளம் நிறைவு செய்கிறதா ??? தகுதி இருக்கிறதா?? நீங்களே பார்த்து கொள்ளுங்கள்...
முதலில் மலையாளத்திற்கான கோரிக்கை நீராகரிக்கப்பட்டது விதிகள் நிறைவு செய்யவில்லை என்று பிறகு இரண்டு விதிகள் நிறைவு செய்கிறது என்று ஏற்று கொள்ளப்பட்டது...
ஆதாரம்..
www.telegraphindia.com/india/classical-crown-for-malayalam/cid/297005#.U75H1_mSxUl
அவர்கள் காட்டியது தமிழர்களுக்கு அறிந்த இலக்கியம் சிலப்பதிகாரம் தான்..(3 நூற்றாண்டு) அது எங்கள் பழைய சேரநாட்டுக்கு உடையது .இளங்கோவடிகள் சேரநாட்டை சார்ந்தவர் என்று சொந்தம் கொண்டாடினார்கள்…
ஆனால் இப்போது மட்டும் நாங்கள் சேரநாடு காரர்கள் சிலப்பதிகாரம் எங்களுக்கு சொந்தமானது என்று உரிமைகோருபவர்கள்..ஏன் மலையாளிகளுக்கு 95% சிலப்பதிகாரம் பற்றி & வரலாறு பற்றி சுத்தமாக என்னவென்றே தெரியாது..
செம்மொழிக்கு உரிமை கோருபவர்கள் ஏன் பள்ளியில் சிலப்பதிகாரத்தை ஏன் போதிக்க வில்லை..?? தமிழ் மீது பொறாமையா ?? தமிழர்கள் மீது வெறுப்பா ???
தமிழ் இல்லாமல் அவர்களால் பேசவும் எழுதவும் படிக்கவும் அவர்களால் முடியாது...
தமிழர்களை பாண்டி என்று இன்னும் கிண்டல் செய்து கொண்டு தான் இருக்கின்றனர்...தங்களை தனி இனம் போன்றே காட்டி கொள்வார்கள்..
Malayalam appadi nu oru inam kidayathu poorvakudi tamilargal than ippothaya malayalees
@தமிழா!! THAMIZHA!! Malayalam is not from Your tamil .. , Tamil is not a Perfect Language even you can't write '' Tamil " in your Language .. you have No letter for "zh" so you always writes .. tamil .. but malayalam is technically Perfect and beautiful language. we Can write any Sound in our malayalam
@@thejus36 tamilzh (zh) ... Mind it.. the zha. Which discovered 1st language is tamizh..but I had a doubt. r u from Mars?
@@thejus36 🤣😂 day ur ancestors also tamizh brother so don't spread negativity
sanskrit forms more than 80% of malayalam vocabulary. and the sandhi / grammar is heavily based on sanskrit.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayalam_grammar#Sandhi_common_with_Sanskrit
malayalam is a language that has both lineages of dravidian(not tamil) and sanskrit. Malayalam preserves both these lineages without much adulteration and should be the the only language that does this so well.
thus truth is being buried deep and i dont know why people are going with faux theories.
True! It is absolutely not correct to proclaim Malayalam language as originated or borrowed from the colloquial and literary language of Tamil nadu at any time in history. All the Dravidian languages have common/similar words because all the Dravidian languages are emerging from a Proto-Language or an undocumented common language from an unknown time in history like all the language groups in the world.
Malayalam language is consisting of our traditional words and sanskrit words since time immemorial. It is an open fact that all the main Dravidian languages are influenced by Sanskrit grammar/vocabulary since since known literary history. This Aryan/Dravidian fiction as propagated by the speaker in this video is the real Myth.
@@FUNPARKPkm malayalam grammar is sanskrit grammar. Even hindi doesnt use sanskrit grammar attributes, sandhis like malayalam. And it does not use tamil letters. And letter were updated later. The original malayalam libi is different. And i am 100% sure 99% of tamilians cant even pronounce many of the malayalam alphabets. Forget about stealing from tamil.
Also malayalam is a classical language, it has been proven. So shove that information into your tamil obsessed brain and start living with facts and reality.
@vinith you are clearly deluded. Stay that way nobody cares
@@DK-ns6rm yet many tamil conspiracy theory freaks care enough to come here and yap about their fantasy theories : )
I request all people of keralam to avoid sanskrit words while speaking
LTTE Terrorist
@@minimaxmini7675 hahaha! If call LTTE as terrorist, then what do you call Srilankan govt & Indian peace keeping force, who genocided 5 laksh people.
What do you call Indian Army & paramilitary forces who has been killing thousands of people in Kashmir valley , north east and central india?.
If they are all terrorist, then LTTE is also terrorist. If you say that these guys defended their nation, then LTTE also defended their nation. It's not the act of terror.
@@krushgo1934 Yes those rascals are Indeed terrorist
Bastards used childrens and common people as shields..
Child soldiers.....
Murderers of A Man who happened lead my country into a prosperity of 21 st centuary
Who killed innocent tamils and Sinhalese....
You are no differ from facists ..dont you have any shame...
I am proud of my country..fuck all linguistic mairu pudungi desiyavadigal...
Jai hind...
@@krushgo1934Jai hind..fuck Tamil Nationalism...
Jai hind
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@@minimaxmini7675 jai hind! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Poda mayiru hind!
Tamil is the mother of world languages 🔥🔥🔥
Vedic Sanskrit is the oldest language in the world. It's the language of Gods and Aryan noble people
no man tamil is not the mother of all languages
@@Rohit-Jat tamil is the oldest language not sanskrit its the second oldest
@@Rohit-Jat I talked Tamil. u talk please Sanskrit
this is thamizh தமிழ், u are man type Sanskrit
@@Rohit-Jat oh Sanskrit is god's language ok put tamil is my god
Good ....,nice...
Proud on sanskrith influence ✌️
Malayalam is a derived language from Tamil
Old Tamil + { Refined } Sanskrit = Manipravalam > Low Manipravalam > Malayalam Language .
In simple... few tamilians adopted Sanskrit and lived in western hill side and it became Malayalam
Appdi kanav kandukko
Amazing Gift For the entire Keralites!
Malyali 500 varsum munna Tamiln
Oombikko
മനോഹര വിവരണം.
Old Tamil and modern Tamil were not different.....they were same they were commonly called Tamil ...
Suraj Sri old tamil is called prakrithi.....very diff from tamil
@@sreelakshmi7476 old thamizh was not prakirthi...that was thamizh vattezhutthu ..Prakrit belongs were north india before Sanskrit .. do u know thamizh inscriptionts
@@sreelakshmi7476 don't create fake history
@Hare Krishna unaku pazhanthamizh ariyum endral yaan (naan) enna kuurinen endru neena ippadi sollungo
@Hare Krishna yess might be lots of difference but we Tamils can understand old Tamil it's not a foreign language....old Tamil evolved according to time
Nice. കൊള്ളാം..
Tamil+Sanskrit+Evolution=Malayalam
Not True! The influence of Sanskrit is found in all the main Dravidian languages since known literary history.
The word Tamizh itself is a transliteration of the Sanskrit word Dramila meaning the southernmost region of Bharata (India). All the Dravidian languages are influenced by sanskrit since time immemorial.
There is not even a non-sanskrit word for the colour blue. Many words are simply modification of sanskrit words. "Dravida" is a sanskrit word meaning the southernmost region of Bharata (India) and not a nickname for Tamilans, Telungans, Kannadigas etc:
Brahmins thinks they are a great peoples. But that wasn't. They are Vegetarian and knows Vedas. That wasn't a matter.
I know Tamil Vedas , That was sung by Pure Tamil Azhwars.
Your aryans has a Aryapatta, Veda viyasar and others. At the same time we have Kamban, Valluvan, Ilango ,etc.
We are 100% independent by Sanskrit and Aryan culture.
tanesan tanes, Avangaluku therium Tamil tha Perusu nu! Aathanala tha nammala adaki vaika pakkurainga!
Aatchi maruna podhum, nama yarunu kamuchurulam bro. Seeman Mathiri yarachu vantha podhum.
Wow😍
malayalam is not derived from tamil.
who are chera kings? they are Tamil kings.
i agree with nithin. and anyways languages arent invented by some king. so even if you get to prove that some king spoke tamil or not it doesnt matter cause language is part of evolution and all the ancient inscriptions in kerala are malayalam and theres no trace of tamil.
Both Malayalam and Modern Tamil languages evolved from their Ancient common language. which means malayalam is not from tamil ..
Arun Pandi the similarities between malayalam and tamil proves that tamil evolved from malayalam
Now stop fantasizing and go to sleep.
Arun Pandi nobody gives a fuck about your achivements. kerala has its own architecture and culture. dont try to force your language and culture on others. celebrate yours and let other people celebrate their own.
Malayalam originated from proto tamil. Then later north indian brahmins came with sanskrit. The caste influence gave birth to literary malayalam which had more sanskrit words. brahminsm made it elite. The "REAL" malayalam is what people speak. Pacha malayalam. The literary malayalam is only used by poets and scholars who wants to look their work sophisticated and uphelding imperial sanskrit words to upheld its highness. Sanskrit words in malayalam is just reminiscence of advent of brahmin/namboothiri in kerala which kept itselves as high caste. Majority of the population speaks pacha malayalam, more pure malayalam. Literary malayalam will gradually die over years as it never went to peoples tongues. No one speaks like or write like what the speaker speaks in video!. The guy who made video wanted to look literary high, hence intentionally use much more sanskritized words which normally no one use. These kind of people are the curse to the society. Sanskrit words in malayalam are just a redundancy. Malayalam has its own words for everything. So linking malayalalam as close sanskrit is quite stupidity. Malayalam is much closer to old tamil since both tamil and malayalam origination from same mother language and common script. Lot of people thinks malayalam is 80 percent sanskrit which is height of ignorance. its a fact that sanskrit grammer was much influenced by proto tamil grammer way back in indus valley civlilzation period, when sanskrit didnt even have a script to begin with but proto tamil did.
Speaking our mother tongue mixed with sanskrit words is a disgrace, this implies subordinate mentality to brahminism.
Get lost malayalam is not from your PANDI language
BACK THEN..... NAMASKARAM..
NOW.... MACHANE ENTHA SCN😂😂😂
മലയാളം തമിഴിൽ നിന്നും തന്നെ ആണ്. പ്രാചീന തമിഴ്. മലയാളം തന്നെ തമിഴ് പദം ആകുന്നു. മലയാളികൾ അത് അംഗീകരിക്കണം. അക്ഷരങ്ങൾ പോലും തമിഴ് ആയിരുന്നു. എഴുതഅച്ഛന് ആണ് തമിഴ് ലിപി മാറ്റി മലയാളം ലിപി ഉണ്ടാക്കിയത്
Olakkkaaa pandy basha Angekarikillaaa
@@flights565fdh നീ അംഗീകരിക്കേണ്ട. സത്യം athaa
@@amalsasi7258 da kunne malayalam pandikal accept cheyyo pinnengane pandi thamil malayalikal accept cheyyanam, Hindi valkkaranam pole mattoru racist thought aanu pandikalde tamil valkkaranam
@@flights565fdh 😍🤞
@@mrperfect6839malayalam is fundamentally from tamll..
And pandee is not a derogatory word its denoted one of the ancient tamil dynasty who ruled southern India...
Malayalam got numerous lexicon from tamil that was developed by pandyan dynasty have respect not hate...
This is good..
Taught me many things that I didn't know. :)
Dc books check facts before u publish such nonsense.....
malayalam developed from proto dravidian which is termed as ancient tamilians by tamils only....Not anyone else
Get ur facts u idiot . Malayalam is not formed from tamil. Pls stop saying this. Why u Tamils want to prove it. Mind your own business. We know our history.
അടിപൊളി
മലയാളത്തിന്റെ അമ്മ അല്ലെ തമിഴ്. അതുകൊണ്ട് നമ്മൾ എല്ലാരും തമിഴ്യർ ആ
Manushan undayathu korangil ninnanu. Athukondu nammal ellam korangan mara aa
Sir, pathinaalaam noottaandil rachikkapetta leelaathilakamenna krithiyil keralabhaashaye 'tamizh' ennu malayalikal visheshipichirunnaalum innu keraliyar tamizhanennu sambodhana cheyyunna tamil naattukaare malayalikalum mattu dakshinendyakkaarum pandu pandiyennum chozhanennum konganennum thondanennum vilichirunnavaraanu.
For Example: "Keralaanaam dramida shabdhavaachythvaad apabhramshena tadbhaasha tamizh ithyuchyathe" - Lilathilakam - Meaning - "The language of Kerala is known as Tamizh in the vernacular through the phonetic modification of the word Dramida."
Ivide vivarashunyaraaya pala malayalikalum oro thonnivasam parayumpol tamil naattile charithrakaranmar parayunathu avarude naattile pandi raajavum chola raajavumokke aviduthe 'sangam' krithikalil 'paarppanan' ennu visheshipichirunna braahmanane pole uyarnna jaathiyilpetta poonool dharichirunna raajakkalayirunnennaanu athupole pathirandaam noottaandu c.e vare tamil naattil ninnum vanna raajavamsha akramikal Keralathile raajavamshathe ‘SeRa’ ennum visheshipichirunnu kaaranam samskritha bhaasha roopamaaya ‘Kerala’ enna vaakkinte deshabhaasha thalbhava roopamaanu ‘Sera athava Seralan’ ennathu athupole ‘Pandya’ enna samskritha vaakkinte thalbhava roopamaanu ‘Pandi athava Pandiyan’ ennathu athupole ‘Chola’ enna samskritha vaakinte thalbhava roopamaanu ‘Sora athava Soran’ ennathu athukondu keraliya charithrathilum keralamenna bhoopradeshathe Cheramaan-naadu Cheramaan-loka Chera-bhoomiyennumellaam orikal visheshipichirunnu udhaharanathinu tamil naattile raajaavaayirunna Raja Raja Cholante kaalaghattathile rekhagalilkoodi prakyaapikkunnathennaal avarude padayaalikal Parashuramante srishtiyaaya bhoomiye akramichirunnuvennum aviduthe Vizhinjam Kollam Kodungallurenna nagarangal mattum keezhadakki swanthamaakkiyennumaanu aprakaaram Keralamenna bhoopradesham Parashuramante srishtiyaayirunnenna praacheena keraliya paaramparyam pandu paradeshikalkum ariyappettirunnuvennum kaanaam.
For Example:
"...sarvam eve anupashyata tathaiva Andhran cha Pundran cha Cholan, Pandyan, Keralan." - Valmiki Ramayanam - Kishkindha Kanda (4-41-12)
@@akhilakulavazhathrichambar7418 അപ്പോൾ നിങ്ങളുടെ അച്ഛനും അമ്മയും കുരങ്ങ് ആണോ.?😁
@Chachu P I pretty well know about evolution. I was giving an apt reply to him. Ellavarkum evolutione kurichu gadamaya arivu kananam enilla.
@@santhoshnarayanan2446 angane engil thanteyum. Thanum manushan alle?
Malayalam has a lot of similarity with hindi and modern tamil. Malayalam isn't pure tamil or pure sanskrit. it's a mix of both of it's ancestral form. Otherwise malayalam would have it's own ancestor which have some relations with tamil and sanskrit. And kanyakumari belonged to the now kerala, not tamil nadu before 1956.malyalam isn't derived from tamil alone, it's either a mix or it's has it's own ancestor.
Malayalam didn't originate from Sanskrit and Tamil. It is actually an ancient language spoken in Kerala since ancient times.
David Dean Schulman points out that there has been a wrong tendency among historical linguists to think that Malayalam was diverged directly from Tamil.
“There has been a tendency among historical linguists to think of Malayalam as having diverged directly from Tamil (the Tamil is spoken from the ancient times in what is today Kerala), perhaps as late as the thirteenth century. But this view is almost certainly wrong. Tamil and Malayalam must have separated from one another at a much earlier stage perhaps around the first millennium AD, as we can see from the several archaic features of Malayalam." David Dean Shulman, author of Tamil - A Biography, The Belkman's Press of Harvard University Press, 2016.
"The preservation of many early linguistic features in Malayalam and the altered reflections of those features in Tamil point to the differentiation between the East coast (Tamil area) and the West coast (Malayalam area)” - A. Govindankutty Menon (the author of “From Proto-Tamil-Malayalam to West Coast Dialects”).
Historically speaking, Malayalam (also known as Malabar language) was the only language of Old Malabar. In 15th century and 16th century, Malabar (also known as Old Malabar) refers to the region from Kumbla (located 11 Km north of Kasargod, a town in Today’s Kerala) to Cape Comorin (Kanyakumari which is now in Today’s Tamil Nadu).
Portuguese Explorer and Writer Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521) points out that the land of Malabar begins from the place called Cumbola (Kumbla) and it ends at Cape of Comorin (Kanyakumari) and all men use one tongue only which they call “Maliama” (that is Malayalam). Malayazhma and Malayayma are variants of Malayalam. (Book “The Book of Duarte Barbosa: An Account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, written by Duarte Barbosa and completed about the Year 1518 A.D.” by Mansel Longworth Dames, Vol. 2, Pg. 1-7).
Marco Polo (who lived in 13th century and early 14th century) also points out that Melibar (or Malabar) is a great kingdom lying towards the west. The people are Idolaters; they have a language of their own, and a king of their own, and pay tribute to nobody (The Travels of Marco Polo, Chapter 3, Chapter 25).
During the time of Portuguese Explorer and Writer Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521),Tamil was spoken in the kingdom of Narsyngua.
Duarte Barbosa (1480-1521) points out that the Kingdom of Narsyngua (The extensive Hindu Kingdom of Vijayanagar was known to Portuguese as Narsinga from the name of ruling Raja at the time of Vasco Da Gama’s first arrival in India. His name was Narasinha or Narsingha.) is so great that it had five vast provinces, each with its own language. The first of these extends along the coast as far as Malabar, and this they call Tolinate (Tulu-nada), another in the back-country behind it, which they call Danseam Rayen. The next which marches with the kingdom of Narsyngua proper, is called Telingu (Telugu); then the city of Bisnaga (Vijayanagar) itself, which they call Canarim (Kannada), and the kingdom of Charamandel (Coromandel), where the language is Tamul (Tamil). (Book “The Book of Duarte Barbosa: An Account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, written by Duarte Barbosa and completed about the Year 1518 A.D.” by Mansel Longworth Dames, Vol. 1, Pg. 182-184).
The region of Today's Kerala in ancient times was known to Arab travellers and Marco Polo as Malabar (also written as Melibar) which was from Kumbla to Kanyakumari.
Arab travelers and Marco Polo called Coromandel Coast (where Tamil was spoken) as "Ma'abar." I believe this was mentioned in Books “The Book of Duarte Barbosa: An Account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, written by Duarte Barbosa and completed about the Year 1518 A.D.” by Mansel Longworth Dames, Vol. 1 to 2.
Many historians falsely assumed that Ma'abar was actually referring to Malabar. This gave people the wrong impression the chera tamil people lived in Kerala during ancient times.
From what I researched, Sangham literature is actually associated with region of Ma'abar. Chera tamil people ruled the region of Coromandel Coast (also known as Ma'abar among foreigners).
According to your theory, kerala belongs to tamilnadu during 10 century. Because we are under same kingdom - chola
Kavalam? Old tamil mind your words.
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After the migration of Aryans to chera nadu, malayalam language formed.
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Great malayalam
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Mallyali Old tamilan
Yes!true not old but also now
Malayali also old tamilian except nairs and namboothiris
@@jinushjohn8053 So was Nairs and Namboothiries.Fake Aryan Dravidian theories by LTTE terrorists is a blunde4
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malayalam has come partially from proto dravidian. Proto dravidian is extremely different from current tamil.
What you are doing is calling proto dravidian with the same name v.i.z tamil and then establishing a faux narrative that malayalam came from tamil.
The truth is that tamil, malayalam, kannada, tulu, telugu all have common roots but are different languages that evolved independently.
But your fake theory imposes a fake propaganda that some people just mixed tamil and sanskrit in a lab and made a new language. Which is not true. Mainly because just mixing tamil and sanskrit cannot give you malayalam.
The oldest inscription in kerala is in malayalam and not tamil. Thus establishing the fact that tamil even though has evidence that dates back to old times, was still not spoken in kerala.
So for kerala the oldest inscription is in malayalam confirming the fact that malayalam is indeed the languagetof origin there and has evolved independently.
Proto dravidian is a reconstruction linguistic hypothesis theory based on cognate present in all southern language 😂it has no materialistic evidence. ..
Malayalam roots to tamil ancient language of late tamilagam
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Malayaali powliyaanu
Old tamil + sankrit = Malayalam
The idea that Malayalam came out of Old tamil and Sanskrit stemmed from a confusion.
The region of Today's Kerala in ancient times was known to Arab travellers and Marco Polo as Malabar (also written as Melibar) which was from Cumbola to Kanyakumari.
Arab travelers and Marco Polo called Coromandel Coast (where Tamil was spoken) as "Ma'abar." I believe this was mentioned in Books “The Book of Duarte Barbosa: An Account of the countries bordering on the Indian Ocean and their inhabitants, written by Duarte Barbosa and completed about the Year 1518 A.D.” by Mansel Longworth Dames, Vol. 1 to 2.
Many historians falsely assumed that Ma'abar was actually referring to Malabar. This gave people the wrong impression the chera tamil people lived in Kerala during ancient times.
Sangham literature is actually associated with region of Ma'abar. Chera tamil people ruled the region of Coromandel Coast (also known as Ma'abar among foreigners).
@Akmal Hk They are brought up under the idea that all languages in the world came from Tamil. That's where the problem is.
@@josephpendleton4927 what is Ma'bar? Where was coromondel coast?
@@anilvm2426 Foreigners called the region of Coromandel Coast as "Ma'abar." Coromandel Coast generally includes the region of Today's Tamil Nadu (excluding the regions of Chenkotta and from Paarashaala to Kanyakumari). The old maps can give visual details on this subject.
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very pity.. how malayali allowed sanskrit in malayalam language. pure tamil speaking language is malayalam( i m not saying this..History telling this). But telugu speaking people interfered in malayalam(eg., all bramin comes from Andra pradesh at Krishnadevarayar kingdom period. Now a days that bramins ruling all famous kerala hindu temple who r all not malayalis. proved) so they provoked every malayali against tamilans. But pity malayalis could not aware this. what to do.....
sanskrit is the soul of bharat and we malayalis proud of using sanskrit words in malayalam almost 70% of malayalam words are from sanskrit and that is what makes malayalam the most sweetest and melodious language in india..
What all blunders are you saying...blaming brahmins for anything..are u out of mind..stop ur hypothetical theories...
Tomil naay 🐕 howling 🤣🤣
I don't know why some malayali people not ready to accept that Fact malayalam language is came from aadhi tamil, may be because they could feel inferior by accepting it. Because Tamil people, tamil language are always funniest thing for you guys. But dravidian proto is tamil and when tamil was mixed up sanskrit, and then malayalam born. Be cool guys.
@Leviathan.A28 hello mister malayalathaan, here am not talking about understanding the language, here itself in this video they are telling Malayalam was born from tamil, and later sanskrit was mixed, Simple.
people like you will never digest the truth. I don't want to reply about this anymore to you (racist) and one thing we pandis are always pride about our language. 😁😂
Everybody accepts that bruh . Everybody knows that Malayalam is a Dravidian language
Malayalam, tamil , kannada , telugu evolved from a language from proto dravidian, malayalam didn't evolve from tamil, don't spread foolishness lol
@@kalyanasundaram2205 dei toppe Ena malayalisk avar mother tongue un sooth tamize vida perusu, intha sooth tamizle irunth tha kannada uruvanath telugu uruvanathnnellam antha naadukale poyi solli paaru un ponam vizhath🤣🤣 matha Dravidian mozhiyile ellam oru mairum unakkellam theriyathu aana unnoda sooth tamizh avunga ellam accept pannanum le
@@kalyanasundaram2205hey dumilan you can't respect malayalam you can't accept malayalam you can't speak malayalam then you call us racists😂😂 and we also pride about our language more than you, that's why we don't want to portrait us as paandis 😂😂 chelekkand poda
പറയപ്പെടാതെ പോയ കുറെ അധികം കാര്യങ്ങൾ ഉണ്ട്.
Christian missionaries were crucial preserving this language...
nice work however super
Obsultly correct
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