EA killed ALICE ASYLUM
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 เม.ย. 2023
- EA killed Alice Asylum and im just touching up and doing a little rant on my thoughts and as a follow up to a previous video i made discussing the hopes of American McGee's Alice Asylum and the hopes that it would come to fruition. But the hope is lost now, unfortunately.
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Previous Alice Asylum video:
• WHERE IS ALICE: ASYLUM...
American McGee's Alice Full Game Playthrough:
• AMERICAN McGEE'S ALICE...
American McGee's blog post of the details:
/ end-of-adventure-81049672
#aliceasylum #americanmcgeesalice #electronicarts - เกม
I love how EA doesn't want to make the game because it wouldn't be "profitable". But then they also told McGee they don't want to sell him the IP because Alice is an "important part" of their game catalogue. Like, which is it? If Alice isn't worth much to them, why are they clinging on to the IP so badly? Thank you for covering this topic!
Of course and thanks for watching the video. I have a feeling that they're gonna do something with it eventually like the shady bastards they are. Kind of like they did with Dead Space remake. Right when they found out that Glen Schofield (The creator of dead space) was long gone and had another studio and was working on The Callisto Protocol, they moved forward with the Dead Space Remake and released the game a month away from Callisto release date. I dont think that was coincedence. I think EA was being straight assholes.
because McGee wouldn’t add pointless micro-transactions for more money, thats why it wouldn’t be as profitable
@@toxxicworld exactly.
@@toxxicworld If you look in the game bible, there were suggestions of cosmetic micro-transactions/DLC for dresses, weapon skins, etc. So it's not like McGee completely ruled out the possibility. If EA wanted to put micro-transactions into the game, McGee had ideas for it.
@@JayQuiQui07 im okay im somehow he put it that way, bcs obviously WE know if he get a go, its bcs he put micro-trans for those outfits..
but i really respect if he didnt n stay original like those 2 older Alice games that
we have to finish certain level to get those dresses/weapons or with ingame 'money', i mean theres no micro trans in spiderman, yet it still survived n obv 1 of the best game/franchise ever released.
It pisses me off how we are not able to play the original title because of EA. They took away the first original title and now they are straight up spitting in our faces by blocking Asylum.... McGee didn't deserve that
Yea i agree McGee definitely didnt deserve it or his team. Oh, not sure if you know, you can still access the Original game from the Madness Return menu if you have the digital copy or through gamepass on xbox. I actually got a mint copy of the PC version when i did my playthrough off of ebay, pretty cheap.
Yeah yeah, I know about the game pass but doesn't it seem just cruel how you cannot get the original game by itself? It almost seems to me like they want us to forget how amazing the first game was by limiting the access
@@dzidzia1262 Oh. i agree with ya, i was just letting you know if you were trying to play it and couldnt get your hands on it.
pirate it, it's abandonware
@@theshocker4744 Yea the one on xbox gamepass had it in the menu available, not sure if its still does. The playthrough i recently did was from an actual PC disc i got off ebay that was in excellent near mint condition. Im gonna have to hold on to this cause its gonna be a rare item. haha
I read through the Alice Asylum Story Bible. It’s so good, the characters, the story is both a prequel and sequel and finishes Madness returns with a satisfyingly conclusion, it has bossfights, many dresses and power ups… EA really missed the ball on this one.
I feel the same way, i read through it too, it's awesome.
@@santoniumlivecan you make a video on the America MacGree's Oz Adventures
Not a bad idea, I might actually do that.
Madness Returns was also supposed to have those but EA pushed the release date forward so McGee had to cut a lot of what he initially wanted to use out of the final product
@@tanandalynch9441 That's sad....
The saddest part is that this pushed McGee into retirement
My heart literally dropped when I heard. Madness returns helped me cope through a lot of dark shit. All ea prob wanted was some live service shit. If American mcgee ever reads these don't ever give up man you need to get this released you have am army behind you man
Exactly, This game is worth fighting for! Even when it feels like we've lost.
I legit kinda almost cried when I heard it was cancelled. I was so excited for it and now it’ll never happen 😔
McGee says that apparently he's ready to move on from Alice. But honestly, I know he's just as upset about this as we are, and he's put so much of his creativity into this project. I know he's not ready to truly let it go, so I hope that one day a game will be made. Because this concept is too good to let go of.
I seriously hope EA gets karma up their ass for crushing McGee like this. I also hope he finds his spirit and passion again finding whatever dreams he has and making them come true.
dude I don't want mcgee to retire. I really want him to come back and do more twisted versions of fairy tails. I want to read the script of asylum so badly. It hurts a lot to see alice asylum being scrapped.
I know it sucks dont it. I guess we’ll have to see what happens or if anything happens down the line in the future. We can only hope.
@@santoniumlive ea can not make good business decisions for the life of them.
They’re absolutely terrible. I still don’t understand how they’re still around.
I've been a fan of American McGee's Alice since the start. It's heartbreaking knowing this series that I've been a fan of since release is coming to an end after all this buildup and hype. Glad I bought my Cheshire and Rabbit plushies when I did, but now this code for the game they came with are useless :(
I know right, it's a shitty situation anyway you look at it. That sucks about the code too.
Yeah I played it since it first came out. As a spooky kid I loved it. It has made a huge impact on my formative years. So sad to hear this.
YOu should get in contact with Ea management and ask what the hell is goin on and what are they doin@@santoniumlive
Sick to my stomach hearing this. I feel for American and the team. Been following the game development since the beginning. I would've waited for years more to support the release.
McGee doesn't deserve this. he worked so much on these games and now he's literally being robbed after working his ass off
Alice Madness Returns is game i play at least once a year.. its one of the most important games to me and has been since i was a kid.. im never going to let it die. Im pissed at the whole situation and just overall heartbroken after years of hoping. f EA..
I can understand if EA doesn't want to fund a new game if they don't think it will be profitable, but it's unforgivable that EA won't at least sell the IP to McGee so he can try to get it made somewhere else. Especially because EA isn't doing a damn thing with the IP. They haven't even ported the first two Alice games to modern consoles. I don't think the original game is available for legal purchase anywhere at all. It seems EA is content to just squat on the IP and let it fade into obscurity. It's a damn shame.
You’re absolutely right. They’ve been sitting on it for way too long at this point.
The only reason they think it wouldn't be profitable is that there would be no "Long Term Profit"....They would ABSOLUTELY Make Thousands if not MILLIONS if this game came out! "As of September 2017, American McGee's Alice has sold over 1.5 million copies".....The problem is they wouldn't be able to fucking add Micro Transactions for the different skins, they wouldnt be able to add in weapon micro transactions or shit like that.... The only thing companies like EA and Ubisoft care about are Long Term Profit now that they are aware of how much money can be made from micro transactions
the irony of alice1 is when you buy pc alice2 you can force the first game back into the install and play it but this way EA is literally encouraging you to steal/pirate because they don't sell special edition as dlc even.
'lets keep the ip AND screw ourselves out of sales!' -EA
They're both still available on all Xbox platforms thanks to backwards compatibility.
You have to buy Alice 2, with Alice 1 being treated as free DLC for it, so you essentially get the first game for free if you buy the sequel.
@@Myrathosghostthe Asylum documents does actually propose transaction for weapons and outfits. Clearly added because McGee knew EA would have wanted them in. But it wasn’t enough.
Alice deserves a 3rd game in the series. There's nothing else like it out there and I'm very upset that EA killed it. This was a dumb decision done by EA, and I hope it comes back to bite them in the end.
I only saw the news today about Alice, this is soul crushing and honestly it makes me feel disgusted in game development and companies in general. This game meant a lot to me, my go to place when stuff went sour in my life when I was young and it made me be inspired to be a games artist, now just graduating university as a games artist and seeing EA advertise just horrible. This was the end to not only a man’s pride and joy and baby but also to peoples child hoods, inspirations and to one of the last decent franchises that presents passion and care to their fans and what they believe in. F EA
Extremely well said. Yea, the gaming world is definitely on a steep decline and passion isnt even part of projects anymore, despite some indie devs and maybe a handful, if that, of larger devs, but it’s definitely nothing of what it used to be and it’s sad to watch it go this way.
I cancelled my preorder for Jedi Survivor after the news. I'm done supporting EA games because what they did to American is so messed up.
I don't blame ya, and from what i heard, EA made Respawn rush out Jedi Survivor also that's why it's performing so badly. Man they don't give a shit about anything, they're terrible.
I supported his Alice: Asylum Patreon for 2 years, and it was heartbreaking to hear the news that EA axed the project. All that funding and development for EA to spit at American's face. He didn't just lose, all of us lost too.
The Alice 3 situation is a reminder why you plan ahead to ensure you actually ~own~ your creations, (especially when a huge & infamous pub like EA is involved).
Krome was wise enough to do that with their Ty the Tasmanian Tiger I.p.
(Not moving to & setting up shop in an authoritarian shithole that screws over game devs/publishers helps too.)
Yea, you're definitely right, i still don't know how some of these devs still work for these specific publishers without worrying constantly that the rug is gonna get pulled out from under them at any minute and they might get thrown out on their ass. Gotta be a shitty situation to work in constantly.
@@santoniumlive Most definitely. Indie-devs really got things much luckier now.
So not the US then.
EA then was not the EA now. They made new things and even had competition on sports games back then. It's a huge shame there's no big scope small publisher games like before. if it came out even early in the ps2 age instead of ps3 it'd have been an iconic trilogy on the one console
Unfortunately, from the start, EA really owns the game. Mcgee and the team is just an employee and never the owner, he should have never made this with EA and just made his team separate with EA and made the game. :
I love this series, I'm crushed there won't be another Alice😞 A brutal end to years of hoping for the best. I still play Madness Returns all the time and I'll continue to.
They have put themselves in that crappy position, if we boycott their new release they'll just put all blame on studio that worked on it under their wing and destroy it, while continue releasing and doing bs. Their ceos deserve bankrupcy and terrible retirement
Absolutely! They'll never take the blame, they could care less.
Wait what, excuse me.. i have been patiently waiting for its release without checking any updates by mcgee because i thought there will be hope that EA won't screw up such a fantastic game that mcgee created.. this is absolutely the *worst* thing to find out. I was so excited until this.. i feel bad for american mcgee :(
Sorry for the bad news, but low and behold we can always count on EA to ruin things for us. Yea, it's a shame, i can't even imagine how he must feel.
Alice madness returns was one of my favourite games when I was a teen. I wished so badly to have a new Alice game. It sucks. I hate EA, they are jerks 🤬🤬🤬
this whole ordeal broke my heart so much 🥺😭
This is why it's so important to never sell ownership of your ideas. Corporations will hold it hostage or sell it at a price to break you financially.
You can always comeback 30 years later after saving and investing to produce it if the ip is yours
He didn't sell it. He made it clear the first game was developed internally at EA and the company held the license because he was in their employ. So he never had the license in the first place.
@@shredheadterminal+ Same concept
I don't think EA really understands what Alice means to a lot of ppl. Myself included as a child who dealt with survivors guilt like Alice in the first game, depression and anxiety that came from that event early in my life. I am absolutely going to find a way to also stream the games and make my own video about this on my channel. We can not just let these special games and our Wonderland, die. Alice didn't stop fighting her demons and neither will I. If American reads this: THANK YOU. So much for all you did for us and working so hard until you had to quit, I would too at this point. I do not blame or feel disappointed in you as a longtime fan of the series. Pls never feel as though you let us down man. You haven't, it is all on EA's shoulders who I feel upset by. Enjoy your retirement and just know that us as your fans will never stop believing in your Wonderland and the unforgettable heroine you made for us to explore with down the rabbit hole and connect to. Your a true legend and I wish you the best dude.
Well said and thank you for sharing this and let us know when you stream or post a video as well. I look forward to checking it out!
@@santoniumlive Will do! I have to get an Xbox first cause I just checked my Playstation store and the games aren't there so soon as I'm able I'll get to streaming them. And the video is being written right now, just wanted to take a break and reply to u. Subbed to your channel and looking forward to any new vids! What you said was also, very well said. 👌
@@therandomshow_ thanks so much. Looking forward to it!
No company can make me consider full-on rioting and the committing of arson the way EA does…
Having read the final script for Alice asylum last night …the fact that the true final boss of the game is basically greed made manifest is very telling
Remember this; when EA eventually pulls this poor IP's corpse out of its grave to beat some money out of it, Do Not Buy It. No matter how much you need your Alice fix after so many years it will not be the same with McGee at the helm, dont reward EA with your cash for what they've done to McGee's vision and plans after so much careful planning for Asylum no matter how much you want to play it. Lets just hope someday we'll see the true product as intended, unlikely but not impossible.
If you ask me. I think what happened is that when American delivered his pitch, EA realized that they were sitting on gold in terms of the Alice property. But, for some business related reason, they decided not to push forward with Asylum. I have some suspicion that they might make an Alice sequel in the future, but who knows?
Alice in wonderland is a public domain IP! WHAT THE FUCK?
Alice In Wonderland is a public domain IP American McGee's Alice series, so Alice: Asylum in this case is owned by EA and they do this cuz they suck as a company
@@klemontyme American McGee could literally make his game, and just give Alice a different backstory and I don’t think EA could sue, or if they did, the suit would fail. Nintendo did something similar to win a lawsuit over donkey Kong and King Kong.
I stopped buying EA games many years ago. There's a good reason why they are considered one of the worst video game companies. I swear, they won't see a penny from me as long as I'm alive!
I know all companies are bad but I seriously just wish a company that was at least a little more accepting of creative series would buy Alice so we could get a new game
This is a bummer man. Eff EA
Love how they dash out 237463 FIFA games that are all the same but refused to let such a unique and different game like Alice Asylum live.. I hate EA
I'm very, very, very saddened by this news. EA dropped the ball
This is such a shame. Accidentally stumbled into Madness Returns and it was one of the most memorable gaming experiences for ages.
Very pissed about it, I had been waiting for it for so long, there was so much potential.
What can we do to hurt ea ?
Nothing unfortunately. They are too big. Too rich. EA will never change.
I believe they can spit more on the face of the fans. Since remakes are gaming's new trend, they can release a Alice Madness Returns remake in 4 or 5 years, when all the extra outfits are microtransations.
For better or for worse unfortunately 😢
Oh absolutely, i wouldnt be surprised at all if thats how they go with it.
I hope another studio are willing to give them a chance for all the efforts they did, I seriously loved Alice Madness Returns
I'm tearing up watching this video. Alice madness is in my top of favourite games, I started drawing out of passion for this concept when I haven't drawn ever and I was looking forward to a second game....I'm devastated as a fan
Yea it was like a shot in the gut when I first heard the news also. It’s devastating for sure.
Really trying to see the positives of the situation... I did get a lot of enjoyment from American's streams, the concept art created and discussions being led with the fandom. That time was very valuable and I'd like to look back at it fondly. Getting insight into the "pre-production" stage of a videogame... pretty darn cool.
I absolutely agree, I actually just got finished playing through the games again to appreciate what we still do have to experience and I also love seeing the inside operations of development process. It’s an amazing thing.
This really sucks so much. I've loved American McGee's Alice since I was a little kid. It's so sad to see this happen.
One of the most sad stories in the gaming industrie, if u followed what Mcgee went through in his life. I just hope that someday , perhabs with some time there will be a chance for more Alice games. Even if Mcgee doesnt want to be a part in, i still would put him in the credits as a tribute. Oh man, i just hope there will be a chance in a few years maybe, maybe even by mcgee. The 3rd game looked so promising.
They finally made a petition for Alice Asylum and I actually plan on helping out to making this game become a 3rd chapter in the game. And yes... I didn't
Even know there was a 3rd chapter awaiting to be made
But was canceled.... but seeing the petition on the site
It actually has hope. And this one does have a lot of backers over 31,000 and still going. Hope that it does pay off. And 50,000 is the goal.
I saw it, too. I sure hope it succeeds!
I feel so bad for American McGee. He put his heart and soul into Alice and EA completely ruined it for him.
I found out about it when American McGee tweeted about it, and im still mad
Right there with ya
One other tragedy to American McGee's retirement is that there is also little to no hope for his "Wizard of Oz" game that was cancelled long ago ever being revived.
That being said, I recently bought Alice: Madness Returns (Along with the "Dresses" and the Original Alice game as DLC) on my Xbox One.
In fact, 'Alice' is part of the reason that I even bought an Xbox, as I usually game on the PlayStation.
Yea the OZ reimagining definitely wont ever see the light of day, ah ya never know, maybe a decade from now something might happen.
Yea i did the same thing with a PC when the first Alice was released back in 2000, i tried to upgrade a "non-upgradeable" PC lol, didnt go so well. Finally ended up playing it again a decade after with the xbox version as well. Good stuff.
I recently just did a playthrough off a PC copy i got off ebay in near mint condition with an HD upscaled mod, was pretty damn sweet. Keep it alive!
@@santoniumlive One game I would've loved for American McGee to do would be one based on Peter Pan with a twisted version of Neverland.
But that only exists in my head at the moment.
I want the Oz game😭😭😭😭
EA is so stupid, Alice series is like the only IP that I care about because of it's story, art style, gameplay, etc etc.
Not having integrity and being money hungry is expected of EA. But having this IP locked up like this is just beyond infuriating.
I’m sad for him! He’s such a talented and hardworking man. Is there anymore news about him? Like anyway to support him
*never mind he says even though if EA starts it back up he doesn’t want to be involved anymore 😭😭😭*
Yea, he's pretty much done at this point, which sucks..but ya never know, stranger things have happened and something might unfold out of all this mess down the road but with EA involved my "hope" meter is pretty low.
As a long time fan I nearly cry everytime I think about Asylum. What could have, and should have, been. I hold the Alice games very near and dear to my heart. I was there for every livestream. I participated in crowdfunding. The Madness Returns concept art book is one of my most prized possessions. Getting a tattoo soon. I can only imagine how American feels, it’s practically his life’s work. 💔
Too valuable to sell but not valuable enough to make a game, what a joke.
I loved Alice in Wonderland as a kid.. and then finding American McGee's Alice as a teen... It just felt right... And I just wanted closure as an adult... Or to continue on with the story... But... 🤷
I’m desperate for them to go under but fifa and the zombies that keep feeding them are keeping them afloat
EA is the Disney of the gaming industry. Buys up studios and destroy the previously awesome IP’s.🤬
This decision of EA made me so mad ! The New game project was soooooo epic and beautiful. EA did American Mcgee soo dirty it's so revolting!
the second game was a childhood favourite of mine and still is. i followed the patreon for quite a while, and when i found out it was getting dropped, i cried. to see all of his hard work in this project him and his team loved creating go to waste breaks my heart. his work is what inspired me to work on my own alice game concepts, and this really pushed me to continue. i hope the community he built doesn’t die down anytime soon.
I am almost in tears hearing a minute in to this vid... Wtf have they done.. This legendary game has fallen... They fucked over Fallout the Last of Us and now this... I hate the companies that do and get away with crap like this.
Alice Madness Returns was my first introduction to horror, I was so exated back in 2019 when saw all the art images and concept art. Alice asylum will come I have a massive hope for this game to come out. American Mcgee this aren't EA's games but yours. Please guys make EA pay for what they did and killed Mcgee dream. ❤
this really hit me hard. damn wish there would be new game
So very sad, we were meant to have 4 games in total... Alice: Otherlands, which is set after the events of Alice Madness Returns & then, Alice: Asylum set simultaneously during the events of American McGee's Alice, which would function as a sequel to the 2000s game and a prequel to Madness Returns.
I will never to being mad at this, Alice in worland is in public domain, perhaps Mcgee lose interests, but the American Mcgee's Alice was his own take that ended to beat Disney and Tim Burton alltogether.
He even got copyright-striked on Twitch for playing one of the Alice games..
This no doubt was going to be a masterpiece and a collection for the Trilogy.
EA pissed me off.
What pisses me off the most is, IT WAS THEIR FUCKING IDEA! THEY approached American to see if he wanted to design a new game, and he did just that! Then EA just said "NAH!" Why the hell did they not just grant him the license to secure funding. The money could have been found SOMEWHERE, somehow! Now, the awesome American McGee aesthetic will never be a part of of any more games, ever. I still play both Alice Games on a regular basis, and love them.
EA are just scumbags plain and simple, i wouldnt trust EA with anything, their word is as good as dogshit. Good stuff right, i just streamed both games a little bit ago, they'll never get old.
Dude this is so sad I was so hype for another game
*Nothing is impossible; anything can happen; there is always hope.* American could come back - after he's had a lot of time with his family, of course - and change his mind. EA could decide to make Asylum, though I might be asking for the moon, but still. Though I'd bet good money that we're gonna see a fan game in the coming years.
When I look at the gaming world, I see it similarly to Hollywood: bad decisions by corporations that backfire, with them losing customers and making less money, thereby having them change course or go under. And just like the film industry, in the next few years, the video game industry gonna be very different. So who knows what could happen.
*Don't give up, y'all! And Godspeed, Mr. McGee!*
Well said friend! I agree with all you said. Good stuff.
@@santoniumlive Thank you!
Lets all flood EA'S socials and spark the change. Go to their pages and apply pressure
I think it's such an incredible shame. This series has shaped me like no game ever has. so much potential wasted...but is there a way to create a new series similar to Alice? or make it an Alice Netflix series? Warm greetings from Germany.....
The fiery joker brought this up in his gaming fails of 2023 video, this hurts more than any gaming fail this year to me personally, it absolutely baffles me that EA decides that they don’t want to make an Alice game but are keeping the rights to themselves like a lonely child who doesn’t get any love. EA if you don’t want it then give it someone else goddamn it, what madden not making you enough, god it makes me really mad.
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
😭😭😭😭 Yesss. I legit mourned the death of the third game. At least I was able to read the script before the end. Thank you for making this video. I want to keep it alive still, by using it as inspiration for a novel.
We need to push for a "content use clause" for copyright and license,
where an IP is given back to a creator from a company if they do not utilize the IP in a meaningful way for a time period. By meaningful way, I do not mean using the assets as a reference, no an addition to whatever it was (A game; a new sequel. A movie; a new addition. A show; a new season.)
That should definitely be implemented, that would help out a great deal in a lot of these IP's that gets vaulted.
@@santoniumlive i mean technically Mcgee could go to court for the IP considering it involves his name.
@@gorgeousfreeman1318 That's even more strange that he didn't then, right? What's the story with that?
@@santoniumlive most likely, he doesn't have the money. Probably putting everything into his own projects.
Ooor, he is gonna release a game with his name on it, and poke the bear so EA initiates the lawsuit, and try to countersue for the rights to his name and the IP
@@gorgeousfreeman1318 Ahhhhh, i like the second one for sure, well that is if he would win in that scenario.
i would prefer EA doesn't make a third game without McGee, the art style & grim/hope tone is too pretty to be ruined by other style or a frickin lootbox.
The people that do the work should be the one owning the prodcuts.
honestly, not surprised by this, it’s electronic arts after all… hoping it still get’s finalised by some miracle in the industry
My disappointment is immersible and my day is ruined
We as a whole could make a difference, if we could all come together and boycott these people. I genuinely don’t understand why they keep this game locked in a cage. Seriously if a big enough outcry was made, what could they do besides listen if they value their company?
There was a petition a little back but I think it just comes down to EA as a company, they really just don’t care. Most people think they’re a shit company cause they are but they’ve been going on for decades, they’re just too massive as a company I think. It sucks.
I remember playing Alice when I a kid.
This franchise was so cool, it's a shame that alice asylum didn't get released. It's sad that the guy behind the game didn't get to release alice asylum. I'm upset that the folks at ea didn't allow American Mcgee release his new game.
this is why being completely
independant is the way to
Go.
Ea make sims new packs 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬but no new alice game🤬🤬🤬🤬🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄can't with them
I know right, it makes no sense. You definitely can't win with them.
Shouldn't the IP have expired by now? 20 years is normal. Plus AM would have a really good case since his name is on it!!!
I’m curious about that as well.
The day EA closes or bought by someone decent with a vision the gaming industry will be much better.
EA just wanted a free design bible. Now they can give Alice the Dead Space treatment.
Get fresh blood who were mega fans of the original to reboot the ip
Yep, I feel that’s exactly what they’re gonna do
I am a huge Alice in Wonderland fan to the point I am actually working on models for a movie like of a darker world, story is a working progress but I knew what I wanted the character design look like, some of the characters I like them to be more toy like, puppets, plush toys inspired, you name it! I always love dark and horror genre and American Mcgee game actually inspired me to make a dark fantasy land of Alice in Wonderland but I might take it a bit too far as what I have in mind may be a touchy subject to a few.
The few ideas I have was that Alice's toy's coming to life but with a twisted feature like claws, burn marks, stuffing's puffing out of eye sockets, head coming off. Those are the ideas I currently have for both March Hare and The Mad Hatter. The Mad Hatter is a puppet with circus make-up but the design is inspired from 1951 and 2010 Alice in Wonderland, it will go for all the characters but with a more twisted monstruous look from toys and such. Though some models will be more human and that is something I am not good at sadly so this is gonna be a fun experiment.
The few story ideas I will choose or I have thought of it
1. abusive parents(mainly father which I really like the idea but maybe have to tone it down a bit)
2. mental illness(still working on how that should go)
3.Dream base
I do know that this is more of a nightmare than a real wonderland so it need to be dreamed. this is more inspired from the 1951again.
I am sad that the game was cancelled I was really really! looking foward to this game. I hope it gets revived soon
You stick with it and keep creating your story. You have so many ideas already started it only makes sense to move forward with it. Keep the inspiration alive and do it up!!
@@santoniumlive trust me I don't plan on stopping anytime soon, unless it's me taking a break of course.
still in the planning phase for the writing a script, the first draft will most likely be more on a story, ya know the books we read on paper. I feel like it will help me think of the script a lot better.
if your still interested(highly doubt it) I'd be happy to send a drive file of model W.I.P, character sketch(will work on cheshire cat so i have a good idea on what the hell i'm working with) but I have to get everything done of course.
I actually would like Alice in Wonderland theme to be more recognize a little more than I hope. You really don't get to see them around here a lot.
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@@santoniumlive funny that 5 month later I just started working on a google doc book of my own take on Alice. things went down hill for my gaming laptop to the point i have to work with a old work laptop. The idea I went for is Mental Illness and honestly the thought process works beautifully! I am taking my time on making this book to reality...sorta..I want this to be public and not sold for money. I own no rights to any character or details I make and besides, this is a fun passion project I wanted to make, already made a Cheshire character sketch but eh, to soon to create something when there's no stories but I do love the concept design so i'm keeping it, unique and fresh just how I want this to be. Currently the title of this book is called "Alice: World of Insanity. my main goal is to get it done before the end of 2024. I honestly hope Alice fans enjoy reading it, it'll surely make them go mad. depends i guess. everyone has their own taste.
I'm no script or book writer, just a simple artist trying to inspire people so the story could be a little choppy to some.
That is soooooo sad 😢i was hoping it was not true..
Wait so it's gone? We will never get it? Noooo!
EA can't own the rights to Lewis Carroll 's Alice, or American McGee legally. I don't see how they can stall the project. Disney and Square can put Alice into Kingdom Hearts or Disney makes Alice movies with Tim Burton. EA also killed Roadrash , SSX , TimeSplitters and Star Wars to name a few.
Because Electronic Antichrist holds exclusive rights to create video games on said public domain character
@@bamban_garcia5562 You see, that's not legally possible. Any character over 75 years old (Mickey Mouse, Dracula, Tarzan as a few examples) become automatically public domain, meaning that ANYONE CAN USE THEM such as Konami putting Dracula into it's Castlevania games, and the Bram Stoker family can say nothing about it. As to American McGee, that's his name EA can't stop the guy from putting his own name on a game. This whole thing is BS.
Thing is, this isn’t Lewis Carrolls Alice. McGee has countlessly tried and tried to sway them. I’m sure he’s more familiar with the legal bs, he’s talked about it a ton.
Its a shame that American McGee’s hopes of creating Alice Asylum will never come to fruition. He and his team put so many years of their lives into this project, and to see it end up being spat on by EA is disheartening. Same thing happened with Volition when Deep Silver shat on any chances of them creating Saint Row 2.5 and as a result we ended up getting a poor final product.
I'm so upset, I can't believe I just found out abt this now. I feel so bad for McGee. I was rly rooting for him and Asylum.
I really hope they come to there senses and make it
What's the music used in the background???
This is my all time favorite game and now I won't be able to finish it!!! EA will put out plenty of crappy games but won't invest in a spectacularly beautiful and captivating game💔💔😭😭Americsn McGee..Thank you for everything you've given us!! I'm sorry that real talent is being supported!❤❤❤
I think they could still make it, they would just have to change things around enough to turn into into a new game with new characters and have it as a spiritual successor to the series.
Well there might be a way around it. He can call the game something else.
That's how Marvelous was able to release their gane despite Natsume clinging desperately to the Harvest Moon IP.
Alice was one of the first video games I ever got into. I loved everything about it: the art, the story. I would quote the game growing up. Nowadays, I'm working on an American McGee's Alice themed half-sleeve.
Even if American is done with the gaming business, I hope he knows he made a real impact on a lot of people.
I always wanted to do a sleeve as well. I still might have to get on that. It’s been while since I got some ink.
DUDE THANK YOUUUUUU Alice & Alice Madness Returns were my first games I’ve ever played and I love them SO fucking much. And this whole situation with EA infuriates me to this day. I’m glad to see other people are STILL upset and talking about this!!! I dont meet others (in person) who even know of the game, so I’m glad we all can still talk about this here😭😭😭
Absolutely!! And thanks for checking out the video. Yea we gotta keep it alive the best we can. I just replayed them both and it made me even more pissed that Asylum got shelved. Fucking EA.
Its so sad :( I was so excited to see what the series would look like in todays graphics/game engines
Here in 2024 and the games become popular again maybe Alice asylum will be made???
Without the guy who made them what they were? That wouldn't be good
I just finished reading the Alice Asylum design bible. This game was going to be beautiful. The story is incredible, and the designs are amazing, im so dissapointed that it won't be realised
Pirating EA games is ALWAYS morally correct. Every time you do it, you help the industry. :)
Funny thing is, they made Madness Returns public again on steam for $20. Pretty suspicious if you ask me
Yea theyre shady bastards
Just looking at the concept art and game mechanics, I could already tell this would’ve been one of my favorite games of all time, maybe even my favorite.
EA has been really fishy with this and other games because they don't want to give the copyright to the creators because of "catalogue" but will not let the creators continue to work on the project.I say this because I didn't know these games were even under EA until I watched a playthrough of Alice Madness Returns.I feel like they don't like how Mcgee is trying to run his project and they are trying to get him to quit purposely in order to get to have full control of Asylum,think about it most of their cult classics and some new popular ones creators want to keep it interesting but EA needs it to where merch and numbers,or like some smaller companies do to purposely kill the project in order to make sure that creator can't be "successful",or make them look bad for dropping the project.
I know i sound like i'm ranting but something with this isn't adding up with me some videos even small are being posted about the game constantly from all different kinds of creators so they are getting views and traction,something just feels off about this ordeal but I hope Mcgee and the team going forward do well, and EA if you see this SUCK IT.
Absolutely, i totally agree, i even said that in the video. I feel like EA wanted to wear him out and give up (which obviously happened) and they'll move forward with it now and they'll blame McGee and his team with some BS like "well he stepped down from the project, so don't blame us" They love thinking we're all stupid and don't know whats going on. They did it with Visceral with Dante's Inferno and then they did it with Dead Space after Visceral was long gone and did the Remake and released it right when Schofield (creator of DS) was coming out with Callisto, Pandemic Games they just fired everyone during the post production of the Saboteur, it goes on and on, but they hold on to all these IP's, they are a shady ass company. And i appreciate the rant and yes they can SUCK IT!!
'Electronic Arts' The most ironically named games company in existance. If they were interested in the 'art' aspect of games this title would have been made some time ago and would have been superb, I am sure. 'Egregious Assholes' would be a better name for them..