Absolutely horrific!! My heart breaks for these people. Those pilots are still heroes in my eyes for trying to control the plane till the end!! Its highly upsetting that no one is in prison over this disaster.
I've flown a lot of piston general aviation planes. Standard procedure is a check of the free movement of all flight control surfaces before takeoff- if the airlines don't require this, they should. I was also a crew chief on F-4's in the Air Force. One day on End of Runway check I noticed a screwdriver laying up on the top surface of the stabilator ( moving tail control surface) of a jet just before takeoff. It could easily have fallen into the moving surface and jammed flight controls.
Fukushima suffered failure due to an earthquake, though the backup system to shut down the reactors, and the location of the plant may have contributed to the magnitude of the disaster.
The number of these incidents that include concerns about keeping flights on time or any reason that serves the airline’s interests rather than the people on board is really frustrating to see. It happens way too often that inconvenience or expense is avoided only to see people lose their lives when it could be avoided.
The only explanation and not an excuse, passengers who are taking connecting flights (I never have) but even then, they could stay at a hotel and take the next flight (this would be recompensed by the airline, which they obviously don’t like). It is the repairs and inspections that I think it is criminal to skip on and heads should roll.
There is little like a raging desire to optimize share profit to inspire a willingness to 'take a few chances here and there'. "Well, we can take a SMALL chance, right? And maybe one MIDDLING chance, surely it won't ever BE a problem..? And if it is, it won't be OUR problem since they never arrest managers for this sort of thing!"
Welcome to America where the higher-ups never get charged because the higher-ups themselves have to protect the other higher-ups from investigations and being held criminally responsible. As in flight 261 they only suspended to the Head mechanics because they were tall they'd protected from the higher-ups if anything happened so that they wouldn't rat the higher-ups higher than them.
@JackFromWyoming yes I have...what I meant was there have been other episodes where the piolets work against each other. These two were able to stay calm and work together
@@lonewolfpoetics but apparently, these piolets weren't good enough. Otherwise, they would have cared enough to turn around IMMEDIATELY after even a hint that soemthing was wrong with da' polane.
This story always breaks my heart. The way they fought to the very last second. It's unbelievable that they maintained such determination throughout the entire ordeal. Also, the way that the other pilots report as they witness the crash is chilling. I've listened to a lot of ATC chatter, and you can hear the emotion in their voices. They still have their own planes to fly as well after they witnessed that. Truly, pilots are amazing people.
The part about this crash among many that gets me the most is that the attitude is that if you were a whistleblower and you point out legitimate systemic problems that can cause lives to be lost that according to Mary Schiavo, You should never expect to work in that industry or at your employer again. It is definitely naive to say this but that should simply not be the case people that find problems expose them should be rewarded promoted etc.
If I saw the plane crashing like the one man did, I don’t think I would or could tell the parent of one of the passengers how awful it was and how they must have suffered 😢
I think that kind of eye witness testimony is actually quite beneficial, especially when the lawsuits start coming in. I don’t know the exact charge for the lawsuit - probably wrongful death - but I want to almost guarantee that the more the passengers suffered, the higher the payout could be to the families. Obviously no amount of money can bring back your loved ones. But when you have eye witness testimony in court describing the downfall of the airplane, I think your chances of a higher payout increase significantly.
2nd to none, the most horrifying report on a plane crash I've ever seen, and I've watched a lot. The tension, terror and heartache was so physically tangible. The trauma was horrendous, and the fact that the crew continued to work professionally and without hesitation floors me.
Anytime it is found that a so-called whistleblower told somebody of an issue and was silenced and later found to be correct everybody within 10 miles of him should be fired!!!!!
Exactly. The stockholders pay a bunch of $, the execs are all cleared. Some medium level employee is found criminally liable. Either it gets quietly overturned or they do a light sentence in exchange for a pile of money.
As someone from Alaska and who flies with AK Air frequently, rest in peace flight 261 and all the crew and passengers on board. Prayers to all the families effected by this horrible disaster.
I would never have opened the cross feed valve I would leave it closed and if the one tank was getting lower you would feel it from the weight and then know you have a leak.
Those pilots were so heroic. For them to request to be rerouted over the pacific ocean in case the plane went down, no one on the ground would get killed 😢
I get why families of the victims sued Alaska Airlines but in my opinion they should’ve sued the FAA as well cause they had more fault than Alaska Airlines. Sadly most major accidents could’ve and would’ve been prevented only if the FAA would’ve done their job. Alaska Airlines was able to extend their maintenance intervals on their MD-80s fleet cause it was approved by someone in the FAA. Same thing happened with Chalk’s Ocean Airways (Flight 101), Turkish Airlines Flight 981 would’ve never crashed if the FAA would’ve done their job after it was discovered that there was a problem with the cargo door on the first MD-10s, ValuJet flight 592 would’ve never crashed if the FAA had done their job and ordered all airlines to install smoke detectors in the cargo holds and the list goes on and on. When a tragedy happens sometimes it happens as a result of a bigger problem and not as the caused of mechanical failure or pilot error.
Well but the guidelines weren't maintained. If they did the time FAA set out and then still crashed, I couldn't it more. They couldn't also have found it too expensive so went where they know they could win. But that's how I see it. To add the company that didn't allow for.redundancy.of the system.seems more at.fault to me than FAA.
Wow how the maintenance guy was like yea did you do this and did that,if you wanna try and if that helps if not its ok with me,see u at the gate, really me as a pilot, would be are u frickin kidding me,thats all the trouble shoot u gonna tell me,thats sad ,
I saw a video (maybe the same one) previously about this same flight. That's what happens when maintenance supervisors don't properly service stabilizers and grease jackscrews. Who else should be held accountable besides those IN CHARGE OF such maintenance ???? Manufacturer for not alerting airlines of potential problems ??? Yes them too.
The use of almost 2 similar parts by maintenance people.. should that even be considered as possible? The aerodynamics of an airplane is something else.
This is one of the most tear--jerking episodes. These pilots were heroes, even though they didn't make it. RIP. What enrages me is Alaska never paid for this. The whistleblower still didn't have a job, no criminal charges, and nobody was punished. Alaska got off scot-free.
Regarding second story: It feels like it isn't enough for pilots to be trained to think logically and have checklists. They also need information how certain gauges function, so that they know what to trust among many things when it breaks down. Had they trusted the reading more as they should they wouldn't have taken fuel from the healthy tank. In the end they performed amazingly!
Re the story about the jet out of fuel that landed with all aboard surviving. The captain was amazing -- gliding that jet and landing it as he did and passengers and crew ALL surviving. Maybe the crossfeed for the fuel should have been closed or shut off, but if it would have been, wouldn't that mean fuel would have been on board (and possibly still leaking) when they came down on the runway? That could have made things more dangerous. They may have tried to dump fuel to prevent an explosion and not made it to the runway or not dumped fuel which could have led to an explosion and casualties. Yes, crew needs to pay heed to warnings and follow checklists and then follow up on the results after a moment, but sometimes, what we should do doesn't to be right or is forgotten in the tension of the moment. I think of it this way: no lives were lost, a problem was discovered and a solution devised/applied, a record was set (though it is hoped the situation never occurs that would give opportunity to best it), and a pilot really showed his skill and was recognized for it. It was mentioned that eight tires were blown in the landing. I believe that the airline should not have mentioned it as though it were important, but they should definitely mention every chance they can how skillful their pilot and crew are.
I completely agree with you. The fact that the pilots didn’t panic and then make stupid mistakes in result, is nothing short of professionalism and confidence and as for me, that is exactly whom I want in control of my plane if ever in trouble . I’m not familiar with how things work however in my amateur mind I feel like Blowing 8 tires while landing a plane with no power, would/could easily lead to a wreck or mishap, leaving runway, etc, however he stopped the plane beautifully and did so while over speed. That’s nothing short of incredible talent with a little luck imo.
Closing the crossfeed valve would have stopped the flow of fuel to the broken fuel line. This is now part of the procedure when dealing with a fuel leak situation. Closing this valve would have preserved the fuel for the other engine to remain running.
Why do modern airliners not have a few cheap, simple external cameras, that would enable pilots at least some overall visuals of the structures and exterior their plane?
Unless built into the airframe, usually there will be a lot of engineering considerations in opening any holes in the fuselage/fairing panels for camera installation. There would also be a lot of avionic considerations for routing of cables within the airframe, including possibility of the addition of a display of sufficient resolution in the flight deck if none was already present.
Well the whistle blower was held accountable. I learned long ago that Human Resources at a company exist solely to protect the company. NOT an individual employee.
Well they do pay HR’s salary and they aren’t paying it to have them turn on them. Sadly they give the facade that they’re there for you the employee but you don’t butter their bread. They may follow protocol and report it to higher ups but then those higher ups, protect the company at all costs. It’s almost like having spies working for you to weed out the ones who may try to go against the company
Each few years we see this story here.... This is the most cruel disaster i have ever seen... To see how it gets closer... That jackscrew mechanism is a disaster by itself even if it is inside all planes exist... Tail need to be a fix wing
When I see these documentaries I always wonder, what exactly are the flight attendants doing in those moments. I saw how they are trained and they are prepared for a lot of scenarios, but when hearing about plane crashes you never hear about the cabin crew.
This disaster will not happen if there is an annual audit on maintenance performed by air line. Lack of over sight will let airline disregard safety for profits.
The plane crashed 23 years ago. I get tears for these unfortunate souls. I can't imagine hitting the sea at 200+ mph like hitting with "Tons," of bricks.
Wasn’t the Alaska disaster under the deregulation of the industry during C’s presidency…the FAA is a governmental agency responsible to some other agency (so many…).Passengers were able to get cheaper flights, but to what cost?
The ground support wasn't worth the time they talked to them. These people on the ground have blood on their hands and should be barred from ever working in the airline business again. They were less help than anyone else involved. Shame on them and their entire airline.
And these stories are exactly why I will never fly again. I've done so exactly once. My return mode of travel was by commercial passenger bus. I own and ride a motorcycle on the other hand. I realize not the most rational thing but it is what it is.
The simple fact is that in the last 40-50, every single regulatory agency in the US Federal government has been subjected to regulatory capture by the industries they are supposed to regulate. Because modern technology requires advanced training and knowledge, the employees tend to be former or future industry employees. This means they have a natural empathy with their industry. They also may be offered future employment opportunities as consultants in the industry. The companies have flooded D.C. with lobbyists to the point that there are many times more of them than Congressional staff. Most legislation that passes Congress is actually written by industry specialists or attorneys.
And yet Congress creates those agencies and approves those regulations. But we keep sending those same politicians back to Congress. No one trusts Congress ... except for *our* personal incombents. Them we keep sending back, time after time. But there is no way to give a government that kind of power and not expect them to use it.
@DianeMerriam You hit the damn nail on the head. We the people need to reclaim OUR government by actively participating in our legislative process by voting, paying attention to what our elective officials do by ensuring their votes are in our best interests not, corporations or special interest groups. If not, we must retire the incumbent and replace them with someone who will represent us accordingly.
I've spent 40 years in the aviation business and I can tell you there are damned few congresscritters who know anything about the business. We take the lesser of two evils and in this case I'll take people who know what they're talking about over any congresscritter.
Whistleblowers get canned. The last MD80 rolled off assembly line at McDD Long Beach while I worked on final engineering changes on the C17. Thought it was Lakewood but was on the border.
Release all the seasons of mayday plss.. Why only a few seasons available and rest hidden.. TH-cam is advertising a 2014 drama by the same name for sale instead of the actual show
My personal opinion is they need to check those planes more closely, check the tail more close, I feel that they didn't do there job inspecting the plane enough!
MD and Boeing still have NOT been charged ! To look back at these old episodes and see the systematic failures and mistakes these companies made long before they lost 2 x Max 8 aircraft.
In the trades on dry ground we are constantly forced to build in belt and suspenders, a safe and a fail safe, forced by inspectors to build in a way that it can’t fail, and then if it fails anyway something catches it and if the catch fails something catches that. But you take booing and they will slaughter hundreds of people just trying something . Then if that something cost enough they will hide it killing hundreds more until the jet is grounded by countries. We have known safe building practices for airplanes, but rather than taking those designs and building fail safes into them we allow airline manufacturers to just continually change and play with designs
Having watched many of these disaster videos, it seems 7 out of ten are poor maintenance, and as in this case, it almost always boils down to saving money. Then 2 are pilot error, usually by arrogance or stupidity. That leaves 1 disaster out of 10 that is caused by an unavoidable chance occurence.
Surprised the pilots didn't think of going to Edwards AFB on emergency.. wouldn't have had to slow the plane down with a runway long enough for shuttles.
Watching the old episodes has shown that MD and Boeing had from an early time systematically failed in maintenance and procedures and to think even whistleblowers of that time were shunned goes to show not much has changed. These were long before Boeing lost 2 x Max 8 aircraft. There are a lot of these old episodes that show the terrible safety standards were rampant even back then. The FAA were and still are in bed 🛌 with MD and Boeing
Absolutely horrific!! My heart breaks for these people. Those pilots are still heroes in my eyes for trying to control the plane till the end!! Its highly upsetting that no one is in prison over this disaster.
Money talks and bull 💩 walks!!!🙄
@@AccentYouLovingheart You took the words right out of my mouth…sad but that’s how this world rolls…
I've flown a lot of piston general aviation planes. Standard procedure is a check of the free movement of all flight control surfaces before takeoff- if the airlines don't require this, they should. I was also a crew chief on F-4's in the Air Force. One day on End of Runway check I noticed a screwdriver laying up on the top surface of the stabilator ( moving tail control surface) of a jet just before takeoff. It could easily have fallen into the moving surface and jammed flight controls.
@@whatwillbem6825 that is how chernobyl and fukashima happened and almost TMI repeating as well
Fukushima suffered failure due to an earthquake, though the backup system to shut down the reactors, and the location of the plant may have contributed to the magnitude of the disaster.
Jeeze! Those actors playing the pilots are fantastic! Especially the one with the eye glasses. Fully had me believing the scene was reality!
Agreed! They also recite line for line what was recorded on the CVR. They were heroes, God rest theirs and the victims' souls.
@@DeMoraJSbless her heart.
Agreed
Are y’all being sarcastic?
These guys have done other mayday videos if I’m not mistaken.
The number of these incidents that include concerns about keeping flights on time or any reason that serves the airline’s interests rather than the people on board is really frustrating to see. It happens way too often that inconvenience or expense is avoided only to see people lose their lives when it could be avoided.
Greed. Plain and simple.
The only explanation and not an excuse, passengers who are taking connecting flights (I never have) but even then, they could stay at a hotel and take the next flight (this would be recompensed by the airline, which they obviously don’t like). It is the repairs and inspections that I think it is criminal to skip on and heads should roll.
There is little like a raging desire to optimize share profit to inspire a willingness to 'take a few chances here and there'. "Well, we can take a SMALL chance, right? And maybe one MIDDLING chance, surely it won't ever BE a problem..? And if it is, it won't be OUR problem since they never arrest managers for this sort of thing!"
1 GREED
2 GREED
3 GREED. MANAGEMENT BEING PAYED MILLIONS IN BONUS. THAT ARE NOT DESERVED
4 GREED
Welcome to America where the higher-ups never get charged because the higher-ups themselves have to protect the other higher-ups from investigations and being held criminally responsible. As in flight 261 they only suspended to the Head mechanics because they were tall they'd protected from the higher-ups if anything happened so that they wouldn't rat the higher-ups higher than them.
Those piolets were fricking WARRIORS on that damn flight! Their communication, determination, devotion....FIGHT to save that plane was ASTOUNDING
@JackFromWyoming yes I have...what I meant was there have been other episodes where the piolets work against each other. These two were able to stay calm and work together
@@lonewolfpoetics but apparently, these piolets weren't good enough. Otherwise, they would have cared enough to turn around IMMEDIATELY after even a hint that soemthing was wrong with da' polane.
@@timmyvawwter8898 not even worth tryna explain it to you
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This story always breaks my heart. The way they fought to the very last second. It's unbelievable that they maintained such determination throughout the entire ordeal.
Also, the way that the other pilots report as they witness the crash is chilling. I've listened to a lot of ATC chatter, and you can hear the emotion in their voices. They still have their own planes to fly as well after they witnessed that. Truly, pilots are amazing people.
This is too much to bear. These pilots deserved all the honors and everything and all the passengers do too. They should not be forgotten😢
Nervous passenger: How often do planes crash?
Stewardess: Just once.
Good one. Except now they're called flight attendants. That's a gender neutral job title. haha
In Relation to cars and trains. Planes are the safest of them all !
21:20 This request saved lives, because the pilot was a grade A Hero.
The part about this crash among many that gets me the most is that the attitude is that if you were a whistleblower and you point out legitimate systemic problems that can cause lives to be lost that according to Mary Schiavo, You should never expect to work in that industry or at your employer again. It is definitely naive to say this but that should simply not be the case people that find problems expose them should be rewarded promoted etc.
This John liotine chief mechanic was such an honest and smart and great guy but the industry destroyed his life ! Poor guy a hero in every book !
If I saw the plane crashing like the one man did, I don’t think I would or could tell the parent of one of the passengers how awful it was and how they must have suffered 😢
Yeah your absolutely right
yeah wtf that was so weird.
I think that kind of eye witness testimony is actually quite beneficial, especially when the lawsuits start coming in. I don’t know the exact charge for the lawsuit - probably wrongful death - but I want to almost guarantee that the more the passengers suffered, the higher the payout could be to the families. Obviously no amount of money can bring back your loved ones. But when you have eye witness testimony in court describing the downfall of the airplane, I think your chances of a higher payout increase significantly.
lol, exactly! wtf?!
Rest Easy Alaska Flight 261 . . . and God Bless
2nd to none, the most horrifying report on a plane crash I've ever seen, and I've watched a lot.
The tension, terror and heartache was so physically tangible.
The trauma was horrendous, and the fact that the crew continued to work professionally and without hesitation floors me.
All whistle-blowers should be offered a job with the FAA as inspectors of maintenance shops.
Make them CEOs
Anytime it is found that a so-called whistleblower told somebody of an issue and was silenced and later found to be correct everybody within 10 miles of him should be fired!!!!!
Just goes to show the rich never suffer the consequences, Alaska Airlines should have been shut down and it's execs jailed for mass murder.
Rich? U must b a crybaby in life.
I'm sure the CEO still got his bonus. You never hear of any management going to jail.
Yup, they always have a scapegoat, usually some poor worker but we citizens never protest or demand anything so that's why
My brother and I are both pilots and mechanics. We've always said no matter the cause of a crash, corporate will ALWAYS blame the pilots or mechanics.
Unpopular opinion: companies aren't people. It's not just the CEO, it's A LOT of people and not one of those people is 100% guilty.
@@nicoler.wunderink_2874The yoke of responsibility should always rest upon the shoulders of the CEO.
Exactly. The stockholders pay a bunch of $, the execs are all cleared. Some medium level employee is found criminally liable. Either it gets quietly overturned or they do a light sentence in exchange for a pile of money.
As someone from Alaska and who flies with AK Air frequently, rest in peace flight 261 and all the crew and passengers on board. Prayers to all the families effected by this horrible disaster.
I'm in the industry & I will never understand why the US Government allowed Alaska Airlines to continue to exist.
The first fuel warning, I'm finding the nearest airport to land.
I would never have opened the cross feed valve I would leave it closed and if the one tank was getting lower you would feel it from the weight and then know you have a leak.
Terrible situation ALL the way around. From those on-board, to those that watched it go down. Prayers for the families of all involved...
This Alaska 261 episode is much, much better than the remake they did.
Is it me or do the older episodes have better acting than the ones from recent years?
It seems that a supervisor thought that the cost of keeping the aircraft on the ground waiting for the correct part would be too costly
Those pilots were so heroic. For them to request to be rerouted over the pacific ocean in case the plane went down, no one on the ground would get killed 😢
LAX is just off the coast north of el Segundo, so to stay out of air traffic and fly out over the water made sense
The pilots were awarde the highest award for bravery from the Airline Pilots Association.
They didn’t know how much trouble they were truly in till it was too late
I get why families of the victims sued Alaska Airlines but in my opinion they should’ve sued the FAA as well cause they had more fault than Alaska Airlines. Sadly most major accidents could’ve and would’ve been prevented only if the FAA would’ve done their job. Alaska Airlines was able to extend their maintenance intervals on their MD-80s fleet cause it was approved by someone in the FAA. Same thing happened with Chalk’s Ocean Airways (Flight 101), Turkish Airlines Flight 981 would’ve never crashed if the FAA would’ve done their job after it was discovered that there was a problem with the cargo door on the first MD-10s, ValuJet flight 592 would’ve never crashed if the FAA had done their job and ordered all airlines to install smoke detectors in the cargo holds and the list goes on and on. When a tragedy happens sometimes it happens as a result of a bigger problem and not as the caused of mechanical failure or pilot error.
Well but the guidelines weren't maintained. If they did the time FAA set out and then still crashed, I couldn't it more. They couldn't also have found it too expensive so went where they know they could win. But that's how I see it. To add the company that didn't allow for.redundancy.of the system.seems more at.fault to me than FAA.
You don't really know how any of this works do you?
Rest in Peace Carolyn Marie Margiotta Clemetson and family. Never forgotten!
Just in case you were wondering why we have all these safety regulations, this is why.
Wow how the maintenance guy was like yea did you do this and did that,if you wanna try and if that helps if not its ok with me,see u at the gate, really me as a pilot, would be are u frickin kidding me,thats all the trouble shoot u gonna tell me,thats sad ,
If the maintenance chief knew the ins and outs of that mechanism he would of told him “ don’t touch it any further “
And if he were a pilot he would of said get her in the ground asap and in one piece THEN we will figure it out.
I saw a video (maybe the same one) previously about this same flight. That's what happens when maintenance supervisors don't properly service stabilizers and grease jackscrews. Who else should be held accountable besides those IN CHARGE OF such maintenance ???? Manufacturer for not alerting airlines of potential problems ??? Yes them too.
The use of almost 2 similar parts by maintenance people.. should that even be considered as possible? The aerodynamics of an airplane is something else.
Just amazing best pilots
Experience and keep your 😎
Cool.
Man, that Alaska maintenance guy. He really just said “lol that sucks, I mean idc I guess you can do that”
That was the perfect actor for the captain.
This is one of the most tear--jerking episodes. These pilots were heroes, even though they didn't make it. RIP.
What enrages me is Alaska never paid for this. The whistleblower still didn't have a job, no criminal charges, and nobody was punished. Alaska got off scot-free.
Pilots beleived they could gain control even when the Giant Machine was Upside Down ,Respect to them 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😊
That captain Piche is one cool customer
Oh God. I can't think what the other pilot feels when see the alaska plane on that nose dive.
And the really sad part is that alot ppl saw what was going on but to know that theres nothin u could of do,as much as u wanted it was impossible..sad
As soon as they had a flight control problem, they should have returned to airport!
I thank God every time I make it home safely.
Absolute heroes! God bless
Regarding second story: It feels like it isn't enough for pilots to be trained to think logically and have checklists. They also need information how certain gauges function, so that they know what to trust among many things when it breaks down. Had they trusted the reading more as they should they wouldn't have taken fuel from the healthy tank. In the end they performed amazingly!
Re the story about the jet out of fuel that landed with all aboard surviving. The captain was amazing -- gliding that jet and landing it as he did and passengers and crew ALL surviving. Maybe the crossfeed for the fuel should have been closed or shut off, but if it would have been, wouldn't that mean fuel would have been on board (and possibly still leaking) when they came down on the runway? That could have made things more dangerous. They may have tried to dump fuel to prevent an explosion and not made it to the runway or not dumped fuel which could have led to an explosion and casualties. Yes, crew needs to pay heed to warnings and follow checklists and then follow up on the results after a moment, but sometimes, what we should do doesn't to be right or is forgotten in the tension of the moment. I think of it this way: no lives were lost, a problem was discovered and a solution devised/applied, a record was set (though it is hoped the situation never occurs that would give opportunity to best it), and a pilot really showed his skill and was recognized for it.
It was mentioned that eight tires were blown in the landing. I believe that the airline should not have mentioned it as though it were important, but they should definitely mention every chance they can how skillful their pilot and crew are.
I completely agree with you. The fact that the pilots didn’t panic and then make stupid mistakes in result, is nothing short of professionalism and confidence and as for me, that is exactly whom I want in control of my plane if ever in trouble . I’m not familiar with how things work however in my amateur mind I feel like Blowing 8 tires while landing a plane with no power, would/could easily lead to a wreck or mishap, leaving runway, etc, however he stopped the plane beautifully and did so while over speed. That’s nothing short of incredible talent with a little luck imo.
I need a video on this story
Closing the crossfeed valve would have stopped the flow of fuel to the broken fuel line. This is now part of the procedure when dealing with a fuel leak situation. Closing this valve would have preserved the fuel for the other engine to remain running.
That creepy eskimo picture on the tail really gets me.
Why do modern airliners not have a few cheap, simple external cameras, that would enable pilots at least some overall visuals of the structures and exterior their plane?
Unless built into the airframe, usually there will be a lot of engineering considerations in opening any holes in the fuselage/fairing panels for camera installation. There would also be a lot of avionic considerations for routing of cables within the airframe, including possibility of the addition of a display of sufficient resolution in the flight deck if none was already present.
And as usual, no one was held accountable....
Well the whistle blower was held accountable. I learned long ago that Human Resources at a company exist solely to protect the company. NOT an individual employee.
I agree on HR. It's almost like as employees visit HR, their getting more ammo and info to be used at their discretion on whomever.
Well they do pay HR’s salary and they aren’t paying it to have them turn on them. Sadly they give the facade that they’re there for you the employee but you don’t butter their bread. They may follow protocol and report it to higher ups but then those higher ups, protect the company at all costs. It’s almost like having spies working for you to weed out the ones who may try to go against the company
Capitalism means“killing one man is a sin but killing one hundred is buisness“
Each few years we see this story here....
This is the most cruel disaster i have ever seen... To see how it gets closer...
That jackscrew mechanism is a disaster by itself even if it is inside all planes exist...
Tail need to be a fix wing
I agree! The tail needs to be a fixed wing!
@@adrianciobotaru9595 No, it does not!
When I see these documentaries I always wonder, what exactly are the flight attendants doing in those moments. I saw how they are trained and they are prepared for a lot of scenarios, but when hearing about plane crashes you never hear about the cabin crew.
Those are the times when the flight crew will need to admit to themselves that they were working inside a true death machine for too long…
Thank God for everybody be safe
Second Episode @ 52:05
No grease on the threads, but plenty of blood on the hands…
This disaster will not happen if there is an annual audit on maintenance performed by air line. Lack of over sight will let airline disregard safety for profits.
It is outrageous that no one in authority from the airline was brought to book for this disaster.
I can't believe that alaska airlines is still in business. What they did is unacceptable.
Little mistakes/huge consequences. Mechanics of all types are underrated and, sometimes, not given proper training and/or supervision.
The stabilizer on 3 737s stopped working and the planes went straight down
everyone to the rear of the plane !!
Earliest I've ever been to an episode :0
They should have done those responsible for criminal negligence
The plane crashed 23 years ago. I get tears for these unfortunate souls. I can't imagine hitting the sea at 200+ mph like hitting with "Tons," of bricks.
The dispatcher should be jailed as well
Wasn’t the Alaska disaster under the deregulation of the industry during C’s presidency…the FAA is a governmental agency responsible to some other agency (so many…).Passengers were able to get cheaper flights, but to what cost?
That's messed up to be a whistle blower and you tell them prepare to loose your job and so they don't tell
That is why there are now legal protections for whistle-blowers.
I'm scared shitless of flying ever since my next door neighbour was on a plane that crashed with another over the then called Yugoslavia.
Don't cut corners for maintenance
" Bean Counters " are Inversely Proportional to Aviation Safety !
Be it Maintenance - Fuel Loads - De Icing - Duty Periods etc ...
On a side note: Wow the actor playing Captain Robert Piche from the Air Transit Flight really resembles him! 1:29:03 1:08:50
The ground support wasn't worth the time they talked to them. These people on the ground have blood on their hands and should be barred from ever working in the airline business again. They were less help than anyone else involved. Shame on them and their entire airline.
And these stories are exactly why I will never fly again. I've done so exactly once. My return mode of travel was by commercial passenger bus. I own and ride a motorcycle on the other hand. I realize not the most rational thing but it is what it is.
The simple fact is that in the last 40-50, every single regulatory agency in the US Federal government has been subjected to regulatory capture by the industries they are supposed to regulate. Because modern technology requires advanced training and knowledge, the employees tend to be former or future industry employees. This means they have a natural empathy with their industry. They also may be offered future employment opportunities as consultants in the industry. The companies have flooded D.C. with lobbyists to the point that there are many times more of them than Congressional staff. Most legislation that passes Congress is actually written by industry specialists or attorneys.
And yet Congress creates those agencies and approves those regulations. But we keep sending those same politicians back to Congress. No one trusts Congress ... except for *our* personal incombents. Them we keep sending back, time after time. But there is no way to give a government that kind of power and not expect them to use it.
@DianeMerriam You hit the damn nail on the head. We the people need to reclaim OUR government by actively participating in our legislative process by voting, paying attention to what our elective officials do by ensuring their votes are in our best interests not, corporations or special interest groups. If not, we must retire the incumbent and replace them with someone who will represent us accordingly.
I've spent 40 years in the aviation business and I can tell you there are damned few congresscritters who know anything about the business. We take the lesser of two evils and in this case I'll take people who know what they're talking about over any congresscritter.
Whistleblowers get canned. The last MD80 rolled off assembly line at McDD Long Beach while I worked on final engineering changes on the C17. Thought it was Lakewood but was on the border.
The airbus 330 with all its sophisticated computer systems, could not tell the pilots there was a fuel leak.
Exactly ! And I also thought that if go around was accidentally triggered there would be an audible warning like GO around activated !
Release all the seasons of mayday plss.. Why only a few seasons available and rest hidden.. TH-cam is advertising a 2014 drama by the same name for sale instead of the actual show
I'll never ride with Alaska airlines ever
So the government doesn’t want a whistle blower either ??? Why. Now that should set off alarm bells.
Too many Commercial interruptions.... TH-cam/Google getting greedy?
Get a premium account. Its dirt cheap
When I change a engine I change all hoses and lines
The head of maintenance should be prosecuted.
My personal opinion is they need to check those planes more closely, check the tail more close, I feel that they didn't do there job inspecting the plane enough!
Supervisors and their bosses should be charged with their deaths.
MD and Boeing still have NOT been charged ! To look back at these old episodes and see the systematic failures and mistakes these companies made long before they lost 2 x Max 8 aircraft.
In the trades on dry ground we are constantly forced to build in belt and suspenders, a safe and a fail safe, forced by inspectors to build in a way that it can’t fail, and then if it fails anyway something catches it and if the catch fails something catches that. But you take booing and they will slaughter hundreds of people just trying something . Then if that something cost enough they will hide it killing hundreds more until the jet is grounded by countries. We have known safe building practices for airplanes, but rather than taking those designs and building fail safes into them we allow airline manufacturers to just continually change and play with designs
Going by your philosophy we would still be flying the Wright Brothers first airplane design and there would be NO air passenger travel.
Wonder, when are you going to make new Mayday episodes available for countries outside America? i've been dying to watch them but can't.
Having watched many of these disaster videos, it seems 7 out of ten are poor maintenance, and as in this case, it almost always boils down to saving money.
Then 2 are pilot error, usually by arrogance or stupidity.
That leaves 1 disaster out of 10 that is caused by an unavoidable chance occurence.
National data (NTSB) will show that most accidents are pilot error.
Calming the passengers by telling them we have Flight Control problems???? I do not believe that would calm anybody.
Aw.. a replay. I thought this is a new one 😆
The only thing these animals understand is Money. They should have sold the airline and divided the money to the victims.
If each supervisor and ceo's got charged and fined maybe they would be more concerned.
I seen that spot it really sad that it happen when it could of been prevented may they all rest in paradise
I will never fly Alaskan airlines again!
The more I watch this channel, the more I am glad I never met any of my sisters. Sounds like drama I don’t need.
The pilot an co cleaned up their mistake, they safely landed the plane and saved the lives that the maintenance supervisor tried to execute
Never fly in a plane with all that tail stuff (flaps/rudder)
Dangerous design.
Didn’t know how to use the torch in that situation
Mayday mayday mayday
They called it "A SMALL MISTAKE?" What a risk for the cost of others!
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Surprised the pilots didn't think of going to Edwards AFB on emergency.. wouldn't have had to slow the plane down with a runway long enough for shuttles.
San Diego would of been closer
WOW 😮😢
Watching the old episodes has shown that MD and Boeing had from an early time systematically failed in maintenance and procedures and to think even whistleblowers of that time were shunned goes to show not much has changed.
These were long before Boeing lost 2 x Max 8 aircraft.
There are a lot of these old episodes that show the terrible safety standards were rampant even back then.
The FAA were and still are in bed 🛌 with MD and Boeing